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1:42Senegal looked sensational as they blew past Iraq. France had Dembele dancing, but why were they playing hairdressers? Cape Verde made their way to the last 32, but Bielsa Blub for Uruguay's Uruguayan home after defeat to Spain. With Belgium finally showing up too, we'll discuss all that, plus look at Saturday's action featuring England, or what's left of them, against Panama. Friday evening in the UK, Saturday morning in many other places around the world, and it's a new totally at the World Cup. What an extraordinary day it's been. We're going to try and relive it a bit just ahead of a new one with Tom Williams, Laurie Whitwell and Duncan Alexander.

2:21Crikey, Duncan, you're looking a bit frazzled. It's been that kind of day. Yeah, Group G and me are not friends. But even before that, we just about got in touch with what happened in the early games and then another lot happened and then another one and we got another set of the same happening on Saturday. Best day of the World Cup, maybe. I think so I think so Tom most dramatic day at the World Cup for sure Laurie let's get a traditional update of what kind of crazy madcap antics you came up to yes not as crazy as Stadium Swim no although I'm tempted to try and see if I can sneak back there tomorrow for a last minute booking for the England game I'm joking I won't be going in there no yeah I did watch I said I was going to potentially watch the England game with Rio Ferdinand so I did that Barney's Beanery so I did that what happened he's doing like a watch party he well he feels that there's an overreaction to such results you know teams draw in World Cups this has happened before the real action starts when the knockout competition begins so let's just chill so I think he's taking he's trying to you know as much as he can do take the heat out of the situation yeah alright yeah but that was nice yeah what else did I do anything else fun You hang out with us.

3:39I hang out with you. And what a great day. Frazzled is the right term for it because so much happened. Let's see if we can remember it all because it was quite confusing at times. It certainly was. What I do remember very clearly is going for a really exceptional, exceptional meal at Mercado Buenos Aires. Beautiful. Yeah. In the middle of the day. That I remember. Those empanadas. Yeah. Duncan hasn't been there yet. Maybe we'll get along tomorrow because you were busy working, weren't you, Duncan? Yeah. Busy day. You did bring him back a little savoury treat, I believe. Yeah, I ate it at my dog bowl.

4:11It was lovely. There you go. Nothing to complain about. More teams have departed, Duncan. Yeah. Uruguay. Uruguay, I'll list them, shall I? Uruguay, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and New Zealand. They all... Thanks for coming to all of them. Yeah. And we look forward to their participation in future tournaments. Not thanks to coming for Uruguay. I'm sorry, I have to interject there. Really? They were atrocious. I think you need that kind of heel edge to any successful tournament. Yeah. Yeah. When are we putting them over the sofa? Now it's good. Yeah. Then we can get straight on. We'll do these three reasonably respectfully.

4:48And then we'll treat Uruguay how they treated the game and Spain. Yeah. Why does Duncan feel that way? We'll be discussing that match very, very shortly. But not until we've done a moment of the day. Big Tom Williams, what's it been for you? Going to go for Ousmane Dembele's hat-trick goal in France's 4-1 win over Norway. We said previously on the pod that his record with France has been pretty underwhelming thus far. He's transformed into a different kind of player with PSG over the last couple of seasons, becoming the Ballon d 'Or. Was he going to do the same thing with France? Well, he scored his first World Cup goal in the previous game, followed it up with a hat-trick.

5:30A hat-trick. The third one was the special one, wasn't it? Yeah, they were all quite similar. And we shouldn't overlook the fact that France were playing Norway's B team. The hairdressers. The hairdressers. Should I explain that? We'll do that later. We'll do that later. Yeah, and so he was up against Norway's second choice left back. And he, yeah, had his way with him. First goal, cutting onto his left and out onto his right. Second goal, curled in with his left. Third goal, kind of jinked inside a couple of times. and was curled in with his left. Yeah, he was in their heads. Very much so. And in the back of the net as well.

6:09So there he is in contention for Golden Boot and who knows what else. Well, so he's on four goals and Mbappe's on four goals. Duncan, tell us a stat relevant to that. Well, we can assume they're going to get a couple more each, right? The way France are playing. No team in World Cup history has ever had two players reach six goals in the same tournament. So not like France need to make more history, but they might. Fully operational, this France team. Laurie, your moment of the day? I'm going to go for Cape Verde, gathering around a telephone, I think it was, to check that the score in the Spain-Uruguay match was going their way, and a draw was enough for them to qualify.

6:52They could have won that game, actually, against Saudi Arabia and done it in style, but to be fair, I think they played really well, a lot of energy. And also, Vazinha, the 40-year-old goalkeeper, his second clean sheet of the tournament so I think he's now joining only two other goalkeepers to have done that at the age of 40 or above in Peter Shilton and Dino Zoff at World Cup and his mum was in the crowd moment of the day can I say mum of the day yeah after her visa issues obviously she's come earlier for the second match hasn't she but she was dancing in the crowd just brilliant scenes she was dressed as Virginia yes she was the pink kit there I think it was rather than his the yellow one that we're seeing on this screen here but what a story what a story by the way yeah this group of 10 volcanic mountains we were counting the islands weren't we in our spare time in between these games incredible yeah they didn't lose a game yet not yet at first they didn't win a game but they won a hot who needs to win a game when you can get all the way you know as Portugal did well you know we've talked about the teams that have come out of group stages not winning a single game but gone on to win tournaments before they've got an easy opponent in the next round as well so they should probably get through that one uh-huh Larry's kidding there because they've got Argentina.

8:02We'll talk about that very soon. Duncan, you're a member of the day. It is Augustine, what's his name? Canobio. Disgusting Canobio. Well, more like Obi-Wan Canobio, the evil Jedi of violence because he spent most of the game running around pretty angrily. And we sort of said, well, if once Uruguay know they're going out, they might not take this laying down. And he seemed to make it his mission to make other people lay down. Agostin coming out of my ears I think Pocobasi who he absolutely rattled into in injury time he also two-footed a desk on the sideline after receiving a red card yeah the desk looked at him in an odd way you were loving this weren't you though you were kind of eager this is what this is just my mind Uruguayan football heritage and you felt it coming it was simmering the tension for minutes Lord of the Rings reference for Duncan and more Uruk-hai than Uruguay.

9:01Yeah, it was. It genuinely was. They wouldn't take it laying down. I mean, they could have channeled that energy into maybe having shots or creating chances. Yeah. That's harder to do, I think. And Canobio had been like the guy. He comes off the bench in the first game, creates the equaliser against Saudi Arabia, starts in the second game and scores and then ends up being sent off for a really silly two-foot challenge. like the entire tale of Uruguay's tournament told through this one match but it's always good when someone gets sent off and then refuses to go and he was even cited full time back on the pitch so we don't know what still out there I mean he might just be out there forever my moment of the day is a sad one is the noise that Marcelo Bielsa made before his post game interview there which made Steve Clarke seem like a relaxed and easy chat anyway let's get a quick check on the results Good reading for some, less for others.

9:59France, they had a 4-1 victory against a heavily rotated Norway side. No Erling Haaland there, but Usman Dembele was on the field, entering the golden boot race with a hat-trick. Senegal against Iraq, that ended 5-0 to the African sort-of champions, a result which gives them an absolutely terrific chance of going through. They're through now. Oh, they are through. Confirms them through as a third-place side. in group h spain beat uruguay 1-0 while cape verde nil nilled with saudi arabia that means uruguay are out and cape verde are through to their first ever tournament and this evening in group g belgium are 5-1 winners belgium who hadn't scored a goal in the world cup since 1860 when was it something like that yeah yeah it was their first group game of the 2022 tournament Really?

10:52That was the last time one of their players had scored a World Cup goal. They scored an own goal here. OK, well, five one-winners tonight against New Zealand. That means that they top Group G. Egypt, who drew 1-1 with Iran, our runners-up in Iran, are currently set to go through among the third-place sides. You'll recall that the eight best third-place finishers will make the knockout stages. We'll get those last few places confirmed. confirmed of course on the saturday we're going to begin though with the group that's just finished group g group g all right then we just mentioned this belgian going through to the round of 32 egypt finished second new zealand are out iran get hopefully for them a place in the round of 32 but But Laurie, your boys, Iran, take us through this game because it was just raw drama at the start and even roars at the end.

11:53And then roars at the end because Duncan had to do more work against his will. Right. And myself also had to sort of rejig a few bits around for the Athletic. So what happened at the end? Well, yeah, trying to remember. But basically, it looked like Iran was settling for the point, actually, because I think they've done the calculations like the Athletics' big data computer has done also, which put their chances for us at least at 92 % if they drew this game to go through. So I think they were thinking, listen, we get three points, level goal difference. We're definitely above South Korea, for example.

12:23We've got a minus goal difference. There's three teams in the final round of group stages that can perhaps pass us, but it would take quite a few results to go the exact way they need. So we're happy with the draw. But actually, Egypt also seemed to settle for a draw as well. And that kind of encouraged Iran to press forward a little bit. So they'd actually gone behind early. Mr. Penn. Right. This is a run. Yeah, this is a run. They went behind after a bit of a mess up at the back. Yeah, the goalkeeper wasn't great there. The equalising goal. This was in that kind of fairly tumultuous first 15 minutes.

12:52Tell us about the equalising goal. It was brilliant. It was a shot saved. A great save, actually, by the Egypt goalkeeper. And then Rzean, from an angle that I can not quite comprehend, he's managed to score from. Well, if you believe in XG, there are some who give this an XG of 0.07. 0.07. Licence to thrill with that finish. It's quite apt because the Egypt manager, I mean, I'd say it looks a little bit Bond villainous. Oh, yeah? Hassan, yeah. Really? He has that air of, you know, he could certainly turn and, you know, capture a spy if he wanted to, I think. You think? Yeah. But anyway, he, in the end, was satisfied, I suppose, with a draw, because Iran took the lead, we thought, in the 93rd minute.

13:36So 93rd minute, there's this massive whoop from those who were watching this game, a.k.a. Laurie, because Iran have scored a brilliant goal, which would put them into the second place. Yeah, would have put them second, yeah. Khalilzadeh on a sort of deflect. It was a bit of a pinball in the box from a free kick. All right, not brilliant, but they all count. Yeah, roof their neck. It was a brilliant moment because the Iranians all gathered on the touchline in a big huddle, emotion, tears, sunglasses. You're pointing to your spectacles there, James? Yeah, yeah. Well, one of them put on special sunglasses.

14:06Yeah. That's it. Pimp meme. From which meme? You know when it's like P-I-N-P there, and they're like the... That one. Yeah. That one. So that was a bit unfortunate then, moments later the goal was ruled out for offside. A really tight call. A toenail, which was similar to their goal against Belgium that was ruled out by Tomil. Made his Ramey's bottom. Yes. Yeah, we all remember that. But they even hit the bar as well, Iran, even after that. Yeah. Oh, it's extraordinary. Crazy finish. Anyway, maybe we'll be seeing them in the round of 32, but as for Egypt, they get Australia in the next set of matches.

14:47The other game in this group, meanwhile, Tom, you were following Belgium and their match with New Zealand, which ended up 5-1. They scored a goal. we say, well, they actually got five. They'd had 74 shots without a goal at the World Cup before Leandro Trossard, apart from that own goal, before Leandro Trossard opened the scoring here, he got another. De Bruyne got in on the act. Lukaku came on after New Zealand had pulled one back and given the Belgians a bit of a scare because goal difference. And Lukaku immediately scored. And Salameka's got a fifth. What have I missed? Not much. I mean, we follow Belgium pretty closely at this tournament.

15:25they started off in underwhelming fashion 1-1 draw against Egypt thanks to a known goal having not had a shot on target until the 62nd minute or something second game went to see them the 0-0 with Iran here in LA a better performance but no goals to show for it and so they went into this game under a bit of pressure Jeremy Docku was back today having missed the previous game to attend the birth of his first child and the respiratory business and the respiratory business that he had to deal with at the same time. And inevitably they look an awful lot better when Docu's on the pitch. But Trossard was the main man tonight, got the first two goals.

16:04I think he's been one of their brightest sparks since the start of the tournament. Kevin De Bruyne is as influential as he always is, has come very close to scoring already, finally got his goal teed up by Trossard with a lovely low left foot drive from the edge of the box. Elijah Just, remember him? Bit of a throwback. New Zealand's star man from their opening game against Iran. He pulled the goal back with a lovely shot from the edge of the box. But yeah, Lukaku comes on, scores one, makes one. And there's Belgium sailing into the round of 32 in a way that we would probably not have imagined after their first two matches.

16:42If they were wearing a different shirt and called Germany, you'd go, oh, well, this is classic. They're warming their way up into this tournament. Doc, who's in there, what an exciting player he is. De Bruyne, after a very difficult season, a lot of injuries, is finding probably some match thickness, trossards in the best form we've seen him in for a while. They could make a big dent, couldn't they? Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know, there is an awful lot of talent in this team. We harp on about the golden generation. There are only three players from that group who are still knocking around in Courtois, De Bruyne and Lukaku.

17:16Lukaku is clearly not fit, but he's shown twice now off the bench that he can have an impact. And you've got all these young players coming through. And any team with Docker win have got a chance. You know when Cape Canaveral, you see shots of moon rockets blasting off, and then there's that kind of rumble, and then improbably this immense object slowly lifts off the ground, and then it creeps its way. His header, I felt, was much like that. Yes, very much so. But what a powerful header it was once he had achieved orbital height. Yeah, absolutely. Did the job. Did the job. Belgium, who are being closely monitored, I guess, by a lot of USA fans, because they are now on a path, should they get past Australia and USA beat Bosnia-Herzegovina, to meet with Mauricio Pochettino's side in the round of 16.

18:05Mauricio Pochettino, who you may have seen, has been offered, I believe, a brand new contract. A four-year deal, indeed, with the US men's national team. So happy are they with the way he's got them performing at this World Cup. happy is not a word you would use to describe Pochettino at his press conference on Thursday after they'd lost in a dead rubber with Turkey. Laurie, you were actually at this press conference because it's made a little bit of waves. Yes. What happened? He was just very irritable. He came in and the first question was about the fight that they'd kind of had to show in the second half and he kind of took umbrage with that.

18:41That they'd had to do what? They'd had to show a bit of fight in the second half, come back a little bit and he kind of took umbrage and said we played for 97 minutes. And then as the question, you can see him sort of simmering and there's sort of questions about whether it's affected their momentum, this defeat, but then also sort of slightly positive questions but he kind of just kept on coming back to no one's congratulated me for topping the group. Well. It was a little bit like when Yaya Torre didn't get a birthday cake at Man City and it felt like all he wanted was just somebody to, you know, give him a cake with some candles and say well done.

19:11Laurie, why didn't you say Mauricio? I just want to say congratulations. He would have loved that. I couldn't interject through all the American journalists that really invested. Johnny come lately into this situation. I also wondered whether he just felt like, I just want to give a bit of spark, cause a bit of friction to show that I'm not satisfied and we are going to go further. Maybe a bit of wagons in a circle type thing. Siege mentality. I need to remind everyone, we won the group. Sorry, guys, we won, he added, before standing and swiftly leaving the room. With a swoosh of luscious hair.

19:44Okay, excellent. There you go. that's a quick word on usa but egypt sorry not egypt for them uh they might be facing belgium and well done to belgium and egypt and we'll see what happens with iran on saturday but they are well placed i think they're is it sixth out of eight of the top three of the third place finishers iran yes yeah they're they're okay i mean there is a combination of um of results that could do them and it's worth keeping an eye on um if congo beat uzbekistan and if algeria draw with austria and obviously austria and algeria have both had their issues historically with final group games so yeah it's um it's set up nicely i think it could there could be some nefarious subplots tomorrow all right permutations next up let's get on to group h friday afternoon again drama

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22:34Find out why Nutrafol is the only hair growth supplement brand trusted by MLB at Nutrafol.com, spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L.com, promo code baseball. That's Nutrafol.com, promo code baseball. Friday afternoon brought drama in the World Cup as well. In Group H this time, Spain were facing Uruguay, Cape Verde were against the Saudis. For most of the second half, three of those teams, not Spain, were one goal away in either game from seeing their situations flipped. In the end, it was Spain beating Uruguay, sending them out, while tournament new boys, Cape Verde, a group of 10 volcanic islands off the coast of Senegal, a team that didn't even qualify for the last AFCON, who got through to the knockout stages and unbeaten still in this year's competition.

23:28We have to speak to Cape Verde's superfan, Nick Miller, from his lofty Eyrie there in Houston. Nick Miller, hello. Hello. Nick, you were there at the stadium today. I was. Yes, I was. You said last time they keep besting their best ever performance. And have they gone and done it again? Best ever result, certainly. It was not a great game, particularly in the first half. and they did their best to kind of not get the result they needed by missing some massive chances at the end. But, you know, they got the point that they eventually needed and there was this kind of strange moment for about a minute after the full-time whistle where they got the point but it was unclear whether the point was enough and then there was the classic situation, everyone crowding around the phone and then they all exploded in joy.

24:24How was the atmosphere there, Nick? The atmosphere was amazing. I mean, it was just kind of walking around the stadium before the game. It was amazing how many locals or Americans have sort of adopted Cape Verde as a sort of second team. I was speaking to one guy who said he basically bought, he wanted to go to a World Cup game and he bought tickets for here because they were cheap. And then kind of gradually, you know, throughout the group stage, the first two games fallen in love with the team and particularly with Vazinha who the game here the other day there's this kind of when Portugal played whenever Cristiano Ronaldo did anything at all he would get kind of huge cheers from the crowd whenever he touched the ball and whenever he was up on the big screen and for this game a very similar treatment was given to Vazinha which was just you know incredible given that you know two weeks ago no one had really hit of this guy indeed this whole story nick it is remarkable what they've done and i was talking about how small a nation they are you've been there you were there for some of the big events of their qualifying for this workout can you put in perspective how big an underdog story is this yeah i mean incredible the the population of the the islands is there's about 560 ,000 um it's 10 kind of pretty small islands and all of them are inhabited i can't forget there's eight only eight or nine of them are actually inhabited so um uh just in a sonic achievement they're the third smallest nation by population size ever to qualify for the world cup they're now the smallest by quite a distance I think, to get through to the knockout phases.

26:16So, yeah, it can't really be kind of overstated how much of an undug story this is. You could kind of maybe argue they've got a bit lucky because they're the first team, I think, since 1998 to get through with only three points. So they've kind of relied on other teams not being quite so good this time, but still an absolutely extraordinary achievement. It would be amazing to see them actually win a game and what the reaction would be was just got Vizinha's mother there who was able to attend the game in full kit. But they've got Argentina next, Nick. Give us a reason to believe that this is a world where Cape Verde can pull this one off.

27:00Well, I mean, one reason is Diero Dorote, one of the midfielders, said afterwards, well he basically said well we kept a clean sheet and drew against Spain so you know why not this as well so there you go there's there's a there's a possible reason they've done sort of something like this before um and so they might do it again they probably won't but um but you wouldn't that there's not much about this story that has been probable so far that's so true where where will the Argentina game be do we know uh Miami it's Miami next on Friday okay will you be able to get along to that nick i don't know there's uh the um there are various fifa hoops to jump through for me to be able to go along to that so hopefully i will so if you're listening for you for let me in okay very nice listen nick it's well past midnight where you are thank you very much for staying up to talk to us and i hope you get a good night's rest and good luck with a trip to miami thank you Nick Miller it's true though they held Spain goers so shut them down anyhow almost shutting Spain down today actually were Uruguay who we just said before weren't actually all that good so maybe there's something to ask about Spain here but the first thing I want to talk about with the Spain Uruguay game which finished 1-0 was how the goal happened Tom were you watching this one yes is how the goal happened the answer Fernando Muslera I would say that is probably about 75 to 80 % of the answer.

28:33You're a six-yard box truth there, are you? Well, I mean, we did notice that the ball behaved slightly bizarrely on its way towards him. But Alex Baena had a shot from the edge of the box, having been teed up by Marco Llorente, and it looked like a regulation save. The Trionda did seem to skip up off the turf ever so slightly. Don't blame the triangle. But a goalkeeper of Maslera's experience and quality should have saved it comfortably. And he somehow allowed it past him. And he's now committed an error that's led to a goal in all three of Uruguay's appearances. And as a consequence, he asked to be substituted at halftime at the lesser-spotted reverse Kepa Arrizabalaga.

29:17And as a consequence, didn't re-emerge for the second half. It's been some tournament for goalkeeper substitutions. we've already equaled the record of five. And as Tom said, three errors in a goal, that's the most by a goalkeeper in a group stage ever. Ever. All right, so it was an unfortunate start for Bielsa's side. How did they set about putting that right? Did they have loads of shots on target in the 90 minutes, for example? They didn't, no. I mean, they did cause Spain some problems, particularly in the first half down their right flank. and the partnership between former Manchester United legend Guillermo Varela, the right back, and the aforementioned Canobbio, did cause a few problems, but then they let a silly goal in right before half-time.

30:09Ugarte is stretched off. There's the goalkeeper change at half-time. Marcelo Bielsa then decides to take off Federico Valverde with half an hour still to play and Uruguay desperate for a goal. Does he score many goals? I mean, he kind of does, yeah. I mean, scored a Champions League hat-trick a few months ago, quite famously. So that was a bit of a curious one. And the more the minutes went on, the more you just felt the Uruguay meltdown brewing. And so it proved with the Kenobi a red card and scenes at the end that no one wants to see, but that, of course, everyone wants to see. Enjoyable, but disgraceful.

30:49Yeah, at the same time. I mean, it was a weird game because it was quite intense, yet it only had 11 shots in total, which is fewer than any other game of this World Cup. So there was no sort of real, oh, that nearly went in. It was just like a brewing cauldron of hatred that eventually spilled over. And there's a place for that. Where does this leave Uruguay manager Marcelo Bielsa? I mean, like you say, that image of him shortly before his post-match interview, just bellowing, unleashing his frustration. I thought it was very sad. This very storied coach kind of feels like he's potentially come to the end of the road a little bit.

31:28I mean, this is not the Uruguay of 10 years ago. The Suarez-Kovani four-line generation has moved on. He's not working with players of the same level. They haven't been a complete disgrace. Their first game against Saudi Arabia, it's Mohamed Alawat, the Saudi goalkeeper, who's the man of the match. They did get a lot of shots on target. So it's not like they've been that far away, but they are the biggest name to have gone out of the tournament so far. It's hard to see Bielsa staying on in the job. And who knows what the future might hold for him beyond that. Yeah, it does look like he was having very much fun.

32:02This was a national team who'd already had problems in the build-up with Luis Suarez, essentially retiring from international football after falling out with Bielsa and criticising really strongly Bielsa's methods. Duncan your stat about Luis Suarez and Uruguay remains true they've not won a World Cup match without him since 1990 Yeah and they've got the opening game of the next World Cup so bring him back I would suggest There you go Alright well that was Uruguay Spain topped the group without conceding a single goal and beaten now in 33 matches and Spain will play either Algeria or Austria in the last 32 thoughts on Spain?

32:47I think underwhelming to be honest obviously it's been a tournament for big names big stars coming to the fore Laminemal hasn't really yet I don't think injured for the first game and then came on so fine, maybe I need to give him a bit of slack obviously he's still very young you have to forget how incredibly advanced he is but there's a moment in the second half where he did his thing and dribbled down the line but he fritted out into nothing So that edge that he usually brings, that kind of clinical decision-making in the final third, I haven't seen it yet, but maybe he just needs to get into his stride a little bit.

33:23I suppose if they can go through not playing at their best, unbeaten, without conceding a goal, it could start to motor. I hear what you're saying, Murray. You're saying Spain champions. That's what I heard. Okay. They're in LA, aren't they? So again, being selfish, we get to see them in Los Angeles against one of these Algeria or Austria we did see him go through the gears against Saudi Arabia you know 1-4-0 we saw some of that quality Yamal had flashes today where you saw what he's capable of or be it not that many of Danny Olmo had a big impact off the bench Nico Williams is building up his fitness as is Yamal so Ferran Torres should have scored shouldn't he that beautiful dummy and then he I think hit the bar didn't he ultimately but yeah Nico Williams also got absolutely hacked down late on as well in the growing melee.

34:11Oh yeah, that was bad actually as well. This is when Canobio decided to enter the fray because he then backed up his teammate. Nico Williams turned around and was saying to the guy what are you thinking about? This is when the team who Calafiori decided to get involved for the first time and then he ended up getting sent off himself. Uruguay have now been sent off from the World Cup in a very real sense. In Group I, meanwhile, this was the group that started off the day we had Norway taking on France in the game that everyone was looking forward to because Mbappe against Haaland, right? And what was the other game in that group?

34:47Oh, yes, Senegal against Iraq. I wonder, should we start with that? Because the Haaland-Mbappe clash didn't happen on account of Norway resting 10? Making 10 changes? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. With all the reasons in the world, when you hear Stolbach and their manager describing how their players have been cramping up the reports he got from the medical staff. He said, give them the day off so that we have a better chance in the round of 32. But I said Senegal-Iraut, 5-0, 5-0 to Senegal. Duncan, you were watching this this morning. How good did Senegal look? Yeah, they looked fantastic. I mean, obviously came into this game with zero points and knowing they had to win and probably had to win by a decent score.

35:29And they did exactly that. And I've not seen a team treat the Trionda with more respect than this team did. I mean, some of the goals in this game were unbelievable. You said that some of these goals were, and I quote, the best goals I have ever seen. Yeah, I might have got slightly carried away. Were you trying to justify your decision to watch that game rather than... Well, it contained former Wiccan icon Ali Alhamadi, who didn't do very much. But yeah, Pap Gay came on at half-time. He ended the match with two goals and an assist. He was fantastic. I mean, the first goal, the ball sort of drops to him just inside the box and he do you remember the Qatar own goal against Canada where the defender on the line tried to slash it and just launch it was like that but about eight times faster and he I don't think I've ever seen a player catch a ball better than that one it was very sweet it was very good then he followed it up with another long range hit Ilman Njaye came on another sub he assists down a goal they just look fantastic and the kind of warning I guess for England fans is that there's a reasonable chance that they play England in the last 32 right again we'll have this confirmed in the course of Saturday's action it should be mentioned that they were playing Iraq who went down to 10 men very early yeah with some 13 minutes in excellent might work from Anthony Taylor okay Manti Taylor was refereeing the game yeah and uh it was just great to see well two English refs refereeing simultaneously I mean uh our Stockley Park in its in its pump but yeah it was a it was a slightly harsh red card you could argue the Iraq had a defender covering the Dogso situation, but the Dogso was sent off out of the kennel.

37:08And then, yeah, obviously Senegal just countered. Again, another half-time goalkeeper substitution. Iraq, it's a bit of a speciality of, you know... Oh, did they go for a third keeper then? No, they brought on the keeper that was in the first game, who obviously was the one that panicked when early Haaland ran towards him. Third keeper's got to be gutted. He's the only one who hasn't dropped a clunger. Yeah. So they had... Basil Fawlty. Yeah. That's what we... All right. Because people wrote in, they said, how could you discuss the Basil problems without... We didn't cheapen ourselves with obvious puns on this show, James, but I'm sure people have realised that by now.

37:43It is the first time, I believe, that an African team has ever scored five goals in a World Cup match. It's the biggest ever victory by an African nation. And, ooh, Senegal, who, speaking of kind of making history in that, is this the same Senegal team who became the first African side ever to beat England a little bit more than a year ago at the city ground in Nottingham what was that 3-1? 3-1 yeah in a friendly yeah so Senegal quite possible opponents for England in the round of 32? yeah at the moment the supercomputer says it is 51 % chance Senegal and 42 % chance Congo with an outside chance of Algeria we don't want Algeria after 2010 obviously England did beat Senegal in the last World Cup Senegal?

38:29yeah but this version of Senegal looks much improved so the game last June was a friendly how much realistically can you won't remember any of this Laurie but how much this is one game I did not watch so I will defer to Duncan how much can or should we read into that? it was yeah not too much I would say I mean England have not been great in friendlies under Tuchel I think it was Kyle Walker's last appearance as well when the football had left him, definitely. So, yeah, I wouldn't read too much into it, but I would read much more into today's game. They look really good. And they were going for it.

39:04You could tell that they knew they needed to score quite a few, obviously, to overturn their goal difference, to get it higher up, and they've qualified. If they'd won, I think, what was it, 3-0, it would have been, I guess, more tense, because they're plus two right now, so they would have been similar. I suppose goal score would have come into play in that sense, but they realised the opportunity there, ahead, you know, 10 men, but the quality of the goals was outstanding. I did watch the last little bit of it. And this Senegal team are almost identical to the one that beat England last summer.

39:30They haven't really changed all that much. A couple of changes, but it's the same team that won the Africa Cup of Nations until they didn't. And it's a lot of continuity. And even more importantly, the first two girls from Habib Diara and Ismail Assar. Sunderland player, Palace player. I mean, they are representing those two clubs. Incredible. Well, interesting point about AFCON, and those are the clubs. Actually, just to clear this up, because we might have made a bit of confusion with the stat yesterday, Real Madrid at the time had nine, and now ten goals scored by their players at the World Cup, not ten different players.

40:07But that's level with Paris Saint-Germain, but extraordinary, as you say, Duncan, to see the other two teams in the top four of goal contributions from clubs as Palace and Sunderland. You've got a bit of Dembele versus Zimbabwe, haven't you, with that top two? Indeed, you do. Very good. Well, that's Senegal, who may or may not, currently, officially, the African runners-up and quite possibly facing the European runners-up in the round of 32. What a game that might be. Before we get on to England and the Saturday fixtures, one more game to talk about from Friday, and that was the other game in Group I, which saw France beating Norway 4-1.

40:53Now, we had Martin Sleepness on last night who was looking forward to the game, but he did warn us that Norway were going to rest everybody, Erling Haaland, 10 outfields. Well, all the outfield changed. Martin Erdogan, Sourloth, the whole lot of them. OK. Why, Tom, did you say France are playing the hairdressers? So, in France, the reserves are generally referred to as the hairdressers, particularly when it comes to national teams, international tournaments. And Didier Deschamps very frequently uses the third group match to play his coiffeur, give them a run out. And supposedly, this dates back to a friendly game in the early 1930s between one of the Paris clubs and Arsenal that had to be postponed until Monday.

41:46Right. and at some point someone said well who's going to turn up to watch on a monday and a press box wag replied well it'll be butchers and hairdressers because they're always there well i imagine so yeah they they're always off on mondays and that apparently is where it because in france and a lot of european countries hairdressers have mondays off yeah what i recall on a monday yeah yeah tell Tell me about it. Right, so basically only hairdressers would go and see it, so now a reserve team is called hairdressers in France. But you said butchers as well. Yeah. But that shows a difference in cultures, because obviously Sheffield Wednesday were called the Wednesday Football Club originally set up by butchers, and they could only play on Wednesdays, hence they were the Wednesday Football Club.

42:29Is that right? So in Sheffield, Wednesday was a butcher's day off, but imagine a butcher goes to France on his day off, thinking there'll be no butchers open. He's going to be confused as hell. And they'd be like, oh, they're open, and they'd be like, yeah, we normally close on Monday. I'm confused right now to be honest Slice of luck Hello Golden Boot Race It's me, Ousmane Dembele Oh look, there's L 'Equipe, we're looking at the front page L 'Equipe for Saturday It says in English The Artist Why is it in English? I would think it's because we are in America Also the name of the film maybe Yeah, the Oscar winning film But there's nothing black and white about that performance Well, or is there, et cetera, and so on.

43:12But anyway, yeah, so he comes on, and Mbappé, everyone's going, Mbappé this, Mbappé that, and Dembele pops up. You'd said before, Tom, that he hadn't really, a bit like Vinny Jr., prior to this tournament, had not really done it for his country the way he has for his club. That's now changed for Dembele too. Yeah, it was one of the big question marks. We've not seen the PSG version of Dembele playing for France yet, and in France's opening game against Senegal, Deschamps started off with Dembele in the number 10 role, more or less, with Michael Alisse out on the right. I think trying as far as possible to let him play in the same kind of area of the pitch that he does for PSG.

43:52But of course, the chief difference between PSG and France is that you've got a centre-forward with France, and it's Kylian Mbappe, and you can't get in his way. But at halftime of the game against Senegal, he got moved out to the right. Alisse comes into the middle, things start to click a little bit. He scores his first goal at a World Cup in the second game against Iraq. And today he was exceptional. I mean, he will not be given that space again. I wouldn't have thought, you know, this was not Norway's strongest XI. But he was absolutely clinical. And I think the goals really spoke to how dangerous his two-footedness makes him.

44:29Because often when a player feints to shoot, you kind of know whether or not they're actually going to shoot with that foot. because invariably they're trying to get the ball on their stronger foot. Dembele is basically as strong on both feet. And so it's extremely difficult for defenders to know when he's going to shoot and when he's going to check inside. And he did that on all three goals. So that's why he was able to essentially repeat the same movement three times for three goals in the space of half an hour. Well, the first one, he faints to shoot with his left, goes out, shoots on his right.

44:58And yeah, for the two others, he faints to shoot on his right and cut in and scored with his left. So yeah, up to four goals now and right in the thick of the golden boot race. Any stats about this trouble, this hat-trick? The third French hat-trick scorer at a World Cup after Juste Fontaine in 1958 and Kylian Mbappé himself. And the victory means that France have now won all three group matches at a major tournament for the first time since the 1998 World Cup. And we all know what happened then. We do, don't we? One other good stat on that hat-trick is that per Opta's 1966 onwards records, it's the second lowest XG for a hat-trick after Laszlo Kisses for Hungary against El Salvador back in 1982.

45:44And I believe it's also the second fastest World Cup hat-trick after that Laszlo Kiss hat-trick and the second earliest World Cup hat-trick after a hat-trick scored by a guy who played for Austria in the 1954 World Cup whose name I have forgotten. Right, I mean, Laszlo Kiss is pretty easy to remember. Yeah Not going to forget that one It's Berlin, it's Laszlo Yeah There you go Well they scored other goals as well Dewey got one How many did they end up with at the end? With four Yeah, Dewey Dewey got the other one Header Yeah You were cooing over this performance, Laurie Yeah, I was Just because Yeah, I mean they just look so good, don't they?

46:23Although Although Although defensively maybe Well yes There's a little invitation for teams So against the Norwegian hairdressers they conceded a goal and they also conceded a penalty which Norway failed to convert. Strand Larsson decided to telegraph exactly where he was going to put it and then obliged Mike Magnon. The goal that Norway scored though was kind of embarrassing for France because it came straight from a centre kick from after they'd scored. Norway just passed it through them and then Asgard had the opportunity shimmied brilliantly to be fair absolutely did. Uppamakarno sent him to Asgard and then slotted it in.

47:02Right, to Asgard, very nice. Asgard, whose first name is Thelonius. Thelonius Asgard, what a great name. A musical family, and his mother is French, and his father is that gentleman there, for those watching us on YouTube. Take a bow, actually. Take a bow, indeed. He's a lead cellist for the Liverpool Philharmonic. So what a family. Incredible. So France have Sweden, and then they get the winner of Germany, Paraguay, and then they'll have one team from South Africa, Canada, Netherlands and Morocco. I mean, they're tough teams out there. Very good. Let's then take a quick pause and move on to the action that awaits us on Saturday.

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50:29A lot of people writing in about the skunk and it made an appearance last night. After we'd finished recording, there was a kerfuffle and some confusion and everyone raced outside because the skunk had been sighted but nobody managed to get any pictures of it. you just have to take my word for it anyway we're hoping to see our little furry friend again soon in the meantime i'm just going to get straight into saturday's fixtures this is the last day of the group stage when this is done duncan shock me by telling me what percentage of the world cup will be already over 70 oh my goodness yeah it's a lot not 72 of 104 games will be done wow All right, savor it, drink it in.

51:15Those are the fixtures on Saturday. In Group L, where England and Ghana are tied for top spot with Croatia a point behind. England will take on Panama. Ghana up against Croatia. Ghana will need to do better than England's result to the tune of plus three on goal difference if they want to win the group. In Group K, Colombia are already through with Portugal in second place, two points behind them. Those two sides, Colombia and Portugal, are facing each other in Miami in essentially a battle for top spot. These two nations have never faced each other before in a competitive fixture. That's incredible.

51:55And it is the most in-demand game of any fixture so far this World Cup. Five million people applied for tickets. Five million. they're currently retailing on resale sites for three thousand dollars and upwards if you fancy a bit of colombia against portugal the other game in that group not sure what the ticket price is for congo against uzbekistan but i'm sure they're pricey too in group j argentina have won that group jordan are still yet to get a point jordan will be facing argentina in a dead rubber on Saturday the other two teams are Algeria and Austria and they will be facing each other for second place or maybe to avoid second place because whoever finishes runner-up in that group gets to play Spain in the next round and whoever drops down to third but goes through anyway because they've got a good enough record doesn't play Spain we don't know who they will face but it won't be Spain and also the other point is that it will it's the last game so they will kind of know exactly what's needed for the third place shenanigans now if you're a scotland fan that has been the game that a lot of people have flagged up as being absolutely key to knowing what uh scotland's future scotland who when we left things yesterday i think still had about a 40 chance of going through as one of the eight best third place teams what's that percentage looking like now duncan it's the well the all the action tonight in group g is really scuppered scotland they're now about 1%.

53:281%. So Steve Clark might have been right with his pessimism. What do they need to happen tomorrow? Is it quantifiable? Yeah. It's doable. As long as 17 different things all happen at exactly the same time, they'll be through, I think. They need to clamber above Algeria and South Korea. So they need a good result for Austria? No. Well, that's the problem, is that Austria and Algeria are kind of like on the same points, and if one beats the other, the other one replaces it. So it's very... Hence the 1%. It looks doomed. What is Scotland up to? Do we know? Have they been out training in case? I tried to find the answer to this as we debated it earlier, James, and I wasn't able to correctly deduce exactly what they're doing.

54:15They have to be training, right, don't they? I mean, maybe very lightly. I mean, we haven't seen any sort of pictures and videos of Scotland fans drinking to excess and then cleaning up after themselves. though, have we? I'm surprised. Maybe they would extend their stay. What an agonising weight for them. It's awkward, isn't it? I mean, I suppose this is why they were so desperate. Steve Clarke and Andrew Robertson were both kind of like, you know, we don't think it's enough. And I think it basically requires Croatia to get beat quite heavily, Algeria to get beat, you know, kind of heavily. It's all down to goal difference.

54:45It's just not going to happen. So, yeah. The good news is, as we mentioned yesterday, you can follow it all in the live updating tracker on The Athletic, which is, of course, free throughout the World Cup. The bracket updates live. The third-place group table updates live. It's a vital tool on this final upcoming day of the group stages. A day which features, of course, England-Panama. That's taking place at the MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. England, Laurie, I think I'm right in saying, could finish top, second or even third place in this group. Is it fair to say that they are having a classic England World Cup With a good result to get everyone all excited A very mere result And then a whole bunch of injuries Yeah, a whole bunch of injuries So Declan Rice is a doubt Elliot Anderson has had an injury as well The big one is Rhys James Who has had a hamstring injury That might keep him out of the tournament Well, he's out for what?

55:46The next two games they're saying? But I mean his injury record But I know he's had a bit of a better season for Chelsea this year, and they're quite strong to sort of say that he hasn't been injured. But it's felt a risk, I suppose, having him as your clear dominant right-back. I guess Jed Spence can certainly come in and do the job at right-back as well. But this is now starting to perhaps point at some of those selections that Thomas Tuchel made and perhaps have a little bit of question mark over them. Yeah, I mean, I've seen several sentences ending in question marks addressed to Thomas Tuchel about this once the news had broken.

56:25And people particularly asking after Tino Livramento's injury before the World Cup, why Tuchel decided that he didn't need any cover, specialist cover for that position. Yeah, I mean, Gerald Kwanza is in the squad. I mean, can he sort of maybe, if he needs to get out there, Kwanza as well, I suppose, has played at fullback, I think, at times in his career. but yeah listen Jed Spence I think played pretty well actually in his appearances so far so maybe it'll all be fine but I think Rhys James had done pretty well and also the fact that he'd stepped into midfield as well when he'd made substitutions clearly he's a player that Tuchel I think really likes and rates so yeah big blow for England there I mean I know we were sort of getting ahead of ourselves a little bit but you're sort of thinking into the knockout phase and okay if it is Senegal in the last 32 if they do win the group I know you say they can certainly fluctuate depending on what happens.

57:16Croatia could still win the group, couldn't they, if they beat Ghana. Ghana could win the group. Maybe that's preferable because if they do go three and first, if they then win their last 32 game, their last 16 game is against Mexico in Mexico City. Then I think it's potentially Brazil in Miami, then Argentina. And then if they get all the way, then top is beloved of France. Well, let's just point out, if they come second and go the alternate route, they would probably pay either Colombia or Portugal in the round of 32 which is tough and then probably the US well we just don't know what we do know is that the opponents on Saturday, Panama what Duncan, what?

57:58no no no I was going to finish the pathway basically they would then have France in the semi either way it's like Everest there's no easy path to the top Panama is the foothill which they have to pitch their tents on. Going well this on Saturday. Panama, who are of course already out of the tournament, who are the only team in the World Cup yet to score a goal. Wouldn't it be ironic if... No. Wouldn't it be? They're managed by former Leeds boss Thomas Christensen in what has not been a good tournament for former Leeds bosses. Marching out together. Jesse Marsh though. Yeah. So far so good maybe.

58:40We'll see how they do against South Africa. The worrying thing I'm going to say about Panama, who objectively don't look as strong a team as England, is that they do look like the kind of team that might indulge in a bit of defensive low blockery. Nothing to lose. D-mob happy. It took Ghana until stoppage time to score their winner against Panama in the opening game. They only conceded one goal against Croatia. They scored two against England. Is it low blocks again? I think it probably will be, yeah. And if so, Laurie, would you advocate for Kobe Mainu to come in? Is he the man? I tell you what, if you let Anderson, well, listen, if you've got Rice and Anderson both as doubts, I would love to see Kobe Mainu get a chance because he showed for United in those kind of situations, he's got great control around the box.

59:29He can actually finish really smartly as well. So, yeah, I'd like to see him get a turn, but obviously I'm biased because I've seen him for United quite a bit and I think he's definitely a player that could elevate, could be a key person trying to unlock a defence like that. Okay. Will you be watching this game with Rio? I hope so, yeah. Oh, okay. Let's see, yeah. I'll put my feelers out. I think his perspective was very useful at the start because, and as Thomas Tuchel himself said, loads of big teams have drawn matches at this tournament. So why get on my back? These are my words, not his. Why get on my back just because England had a game which effectively we could have lost if the referee or VAR had given that absolutely stonewall penalty.

1:00:11Yeah. Disponished about that. All right. Anyway, a big win perhaps against Panama. And his critics are beating there. They beat Panama quite handsomely last time, didn't they? 6-1, yeah. 6-1. When was that? 2018? Yeah. 2018. Hmm. Very good. All right. Well, that's just one of the fixtures that's coming up on Saturday. I'm looking forward to that I'm really looking forward to Colombia, Portugal but you know what, we'll be here in 24 hours time to report back on all of it and wave goodbye to the group stages and also to Duncan Alexander who's going off to follow cycling It's true Yeah, a lot of people really struggling with that news, Duncan but our loss, cycling's gain part of the Athletic's excellent Tour de France coverage which I for one will be looking forward to.

1:01:05That's it though for today's show. Many, many thanks to Nick Miller for staying up past his bedtime to join us earlier. And Tom, Laurie and Duncan, the production crew here, and most of all you will be back tomorrow. Hope you will be too. For now from all of us here, it's goodbye.

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