Ten-man City win Manchester derby after controversial Haaland goal

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1:43Colin Millar: From downtown London, it's the Totally Football Show with our live Sunday night roundup.

1:53Colin Millar: Today, Manchester derby controversy. Man City go down to 10 after Redcar for Foden, but Hodon to beat United with a Stockley Park special. Elsewhere, Hull draw away at Stamford Bridge. Balumi with a brace. Careful, that could be painful. Spurs continue to register nils like a Danish census. And commentary also goalless and pointless too. Lots to discuss in this Totally Football show. And here we are in the studio. Many thanks if you're joining us for our live experience on a Sunday evening, 13th. of September or if you join us thereafter you'll still be enjoying the sweet sounds of Colin Miller hello Colin hello James also Tom Williams hello James lovely to see you Tom Williams and on the big screen with big opinions Stuart James welcome Stuart thanks for having me on James good to see you well it's it's really really great to have you with us because I don't know if you've seen this at all on The Athletic but Stuart's doing a very excellent piece every Monday Tuesday called And, well, who's won the weekend in the Premier League?

2:58Colin Millar: Might be a snappier title than that. But the amazing thing is that for that article, Stewart has every week been watching every single game in the Premier League in its entirety. So what so far you've watched, how many of this weekend's games have you watched so far, Stewart?

3:16Stuart James: Seven. So I'm up to, where does that leave us now? 37, is that right? 47, 37, 37. 37.

3:23Colin Millar: What, 30? Yeah, that would be right. Yeah, 30. How fed up are you? I almost lost an entire team season. Yeah. Of games. Oh, gosh. I never thought about that.

3:31Stuart James: Seasons worth of games. Yeah. Wow. That is mad. Yeah. I'm still enjoying it at the minute, James. I'm at the honeymoon stage, aren't I, at the moment? International break, I can't wait for that to happen, though, and I've never felt like that before. I hate international breaks, but I'm now really looking forward to it. So I get a few weeks off from this, but it's been good fun, too, and I'm learning loads about new players and what I perhaps didn't appreciate before. So, yeah, I'm really enjoying it, actually.

3:57Colin Millar: Which new player have you most appreciated that you didn't appreciate before then?

4:01Stuart James: Well, I feel like I should have known more about Sangari before he came to Brentford, but I didn't. And he's been fab to watch, certainly in the first two games. And then I've really enjoyed watching Sunderland, actually. Siddiqui in midfield has been fantastic. Other players I knew about, but I'm getting to see more of now. Alex Scott's been fantastic. So, yeah, it's good. I mean, I'm still trying to explain the concept to people. Some people get really worked up about the fact that their team won and that they appear lower in our ranking table than a team that drew. But that's the whole point of it.

4:32Stuart James: It's about performance and not result or data necessarily. So it's very subjective. But, yeah, I felt like the only way I could do this fairly would be to watch the game in its entirety. And then that way I've got a good perspective of whether a team played well or not. obviously people can argue with that of course but um yeah at least i can say i've watched the game in full amazing yeah this sort of volume of matches to watch and consume that much football is very challenging it reminds me actually and this is going back quite a few years but there was a football writer called thomas mortimer who set himself a challenge of watching at least one football match every day of the year so all 365 days including christmas eve christmas day boxing day, he had to find a match that was on and watch it in its entirety.

5:20And I think, like you used to, at the start, he was fairly enthusiastic about the whole thing, about the sort of novelty of the challenge, but I don't want to put too much of a downer on it, but his spirits were fairly crushed about midway through, I think.

5:34Colin Millar: Well, international break coming up. What about a piece doing Who Won the International Break? I don't know what you would think about that. Just to keep you ticking over. Just to keep you ticking over. The good thing is that matches come along like the Manchester derby that just give you so much to talk about and prove so very enthralling Tom I know you were with the Canal Plus yesterday for matchup the day but the the drama at Old Trafford is going to be I think the big talking point this week yeah I mean it felt like a very significant game in the sense that Manchester derbies always are The outcome is significant in that it, you know, suggests that we should consider City as firm title contenders.

6:20Colin Millar: And then on top of that, you have, you know, these moments, the Phil Foden sending off, which we thought might prove to be the bigger talking point of the game, only for the Erling Haaland goal to come along and say, you know, hold my controversy beer. Yeah. Or something. My pint of controversy. Indeed. All right. By the way, thanks if you are joining us live. We're, of course, on YouTube. Producer Charlie actually put out a little question, a little teaser, see if he could elicit some responses. The question was, who is the best Brazilian in the Premier League? A lot of people going with all-time choices here, like Martinez, FTP, who says Roberto Firmino, Callum's 9511.

7:06Colin Millar: The numbers are important. says Fernand Ginho for me Rodrigo Muniz says one current Gabriel says Parimar Rodrigo Muniz of Fulham yeah if that isn't a Fulham fan then we need we need a full inquiry you don't watch Fulham Stuart is Muniz the best Brazilian in the Premier League I mean

7:26Stuart James: he hasn't exactly played much this season I'm pretty stunned by that suggestion actually so no he wouldn't be the best Brazilian in the Premier League of my eyes João Pedro at the moment for me

7:35Colin Millar: Pineapple Tree Truck says allison there we go which allison i wonder anyway uh thanks for getting in touch all of you we've got well nine games from the premier league to get through some more than others uh we'll start off with the match at old trafford very very shortly but first of all quick check on the results match day four of the season no home wins so far still one game to go on monday night it's newcastle welcome leads first of all you can see down on the bottom right sunday's games the Manchester derby there. City 1-0 winners despite going down to 10 men in the 23rd minute when Phil Foden got sent off.

8:12Colin Millar: Erling Haaland with a massively controversial goal, though. We'll get on to that shortly. Earlier on Sunday, Brighton 5-0 winners. 5-0 winners away at Coventry. Brighton moving up to fourth place in the Premier League. They are the top scorers in the league. Frank Lampard, Sky Blues still goalless and pointless. Forest got their first win under Oliver Glasner beating Villa 2-1 at theirs. It was the same old story for poor Bournemouth, who went ahead with Brentford, but still end up drawing 2-2. It's the fourth time in four matches that they've taken the lead but failed to win. It was 2-2 at Stamford Bridge as well, as Hull continued their incredible unbeaten start to the season, coming from a goal down away to Chelsea.

8:54Colin Millar: It was 3-2 for their fellow promoted side, Ipswich, away at Crystal Palace. No goals whatsoever at Anfield. as supposedly falling apart Fulham claimed their first point of the season away to Liverpool and no goals at Tottenham either. Spurs now almost seven hours without troubling the net in the league. Everton, their opponent still unbeaten. Saturday night, Arsenal had a scare or two but ran out 2-0 winners at the Stadium of Light against Sunderland which means that they are still just ahead of Man City on goals scored. Man City, who were 1-0 winners at Old Trafford. And that's where we begin.

9:34Colin Millar: Manchester derby, Erling Haaland with the goal. A 1-0 scoreline for Enzo Maresco's Manchester City, who have now won all four of their matches so far in this debut season on the City bench. Two big decisions, as Tom was mentioning. One in the 23rd minute, Phil Foden's red card, having been kicked in the bum by Bruno Fernandes. He waved his studs at Bruno's midriff and saw red, justifiably, probably. The second, though, was City's goal. Erling Haaland, who despite initially seeming offside and certainly his teammate Enzo Fernandes being very, very offside, was still cleared for his brilliantly finished effort.

10:16Colin Millar: And City take all three points. We'd better begin with that. Who wants to voice their opinions on this? How outraged should United be, Colin? For this decision, I think they have every right to be aggrieved in the sense that there's a long wait for this goal to be decided, right? So the on-field official, the assistant referee, flagged for offside. So this was an overturn. So that made it particularly significant. It wasn't just staying with the decision. It was actually overturning what had already been given. And initially, we had all thought that Erling Haaland was actually offside himself.

10:54the lines show that Patrick Dorgou's foot had played him onside but I think the real controversial part of this was the involvement of Enzo Fernandes in the goal because he was very clearly in an offside position there's no doubt about that he was several metres offside and the VAR in the Premier League in their essentially whenever they came out with their in-match description of why this was given they said that he didn't touch the ball which is correct

11:21Colin Millar: he didn't My fab have four counts in which a player who doesn't touch the ball is still deemed to be influencing it, influencing play and thus offside, actively offside. And on at least three of the four counts, Enzo Fernandes is banged to rights. So what happened in Stockley Park, Stuart?

11:38Stuart James: Yeah, this is a bizarre one. This is already, it already feels as though in a few days time, we're going to get an apology and an admission that this decision was wrong. Such a strange call. as you just said when they put up on Sky after the game the list of possible reasons a player could be interfering yeah he ticked more or less every box Enzo Fernando so I can't work out for the life of me how they arrived at the decision they did yeah really really odd call that ultimately is obviously proved hugely significant but very difficult to make sense of and actually I think had it gone the other way and the goal had been a disallowed City would have probably just accepted it um instead of that now we've got this uh controversy that yeah overshadows the game decided it really and uh i fully expect that to happen in the days to come however long it takes i think it'll be um an omission that the wrong decision was arrived at there which obviously would be no consolation to united whatsoever i think it was an example of the

12:40Colin Millar: officials working themselves into a classic VAR logic trap in that you see the replay and Fernandes is just obviously offside he obviously tries to play the ball and that clearly has an impact on his marker Lissandro Martinez's reading of the situation and also Senna Lamond's interpretation of what's happening but as Colin said a key detail is the fact that the goal was initially ruled out for offside against Haaland. So that was the decision that the VAR was scrutinizing because, and I think when we watched it ourselves, you thought that's been given offside because Haaland was offside. And so that's the only decision that the VAR is being invited to kind of, you know, test.

13:30Colin Millar: But then clearly having confirmed that Haaland was onside, they're then presented by the case of Fernandes And then it becomes a question of whether or not it is a clear and obvious enough error to be overturned. And I think it clearly was. But I think just in watching it and re-watching it and thinking about which boxes Fernandes needed to tick, they've convinced themselves that because he didn't play the ball, because there was a bit of a gap between the ball and him when the ball went past him, it's hard to imagine how Martinez might have reacted had he not been there that they've decided well actually you know perhaps he's not impacting his opponents all that much.

14:10Colin Millar: Clearly he was and yeah as Stu says I would be very surprised if we didn't hear more about this from some you know slightly apologetic Premier League officials in the coming days. What about the other decision the sending off of Phil Foden which I don't think many people would disagree about A lot of people might have waved a red in Bruno Fernandes' decision, do you think, Colin? Sorry, direction. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, again, I think just like the goal itself, that there's other sort of little elements to this, which is why people get upset. And it's confusing as well because for the Fernandes situation, there was sort of the foil that was given and then there was a little kick on the groin.

14:49It wasn't a violent kick. I don't think it was something that would merit a straight sending off itself. But then Phil Foden. From Bruno to Foden. From Bruno to Foden. and then Phil Foden obviously reacts to that, has a little bit of a head loss, throws a boot into his chest. And again, it's not the worst thing in the world, but you look at that and you think, well, that probably is a red card. So I think by the technicalities of what VAR can review, the decision was the correct one, albeit I think Bruno was very lucky not to get a yellow card. And obviously VAR, well, I think he set up a little trap, which Phil Foden fell into.

15:25Colin Millar: He kicks him and then he kicks him up the backside and then he, you know, collapses. I think it was the little kick on the ground, I think, was the one that would probably merit a yellow card. But yeah, the free kick had been given and then it was that little series of reactions. I do just think for that goal, just quickly, that as Tom says, I think when you're an official, you're under so much pressure in that situation. and even the fact that the ball had flicked off Patrick Dorgue. It was Gary Neville on commentary for Sky. He's like, is that something that plays a part in it? But of course it's not because it wasn't an intentional flick.

15:59He didn't intentionally play the ball. But you can get caught up in all these little separate elements of it. But ultimately, yeah.

16:05Colin Millar: If you're paid to make these decisions, if you're paid to be the expert, you'd hope they wouldn't get caught up in this stuff given that everybody else, every civilian watching, seemed to be pretty clear. But maybe too much knowledge in this case was a dangerous thing. Well, there you go. Mention the fact that in the 23rd minute, Foden went off and City were down to 10 men. And United had from there, I think for about the next hour or so, no shots whatsoever. They did hit the post twice. FBL Bangasiva says a Carrick team being completely unable to control the midfield, even with an extra man, just doesn't add up.

16:43Colin Millar: He'll be out before Christmas. Stu, what did you make of United's performance against 10-man City? Did they do enough? Were they the architects of their own defeat?

16:53Stuart James: They definitely didn't do enough in my eyes. I actually think it was probably the worst thing that could have happened for them. I think that Carrick team was very much set up to counter-attack City. And they'd actually started quite well. City were playing poorly. United were on top. And then that shift, it kind of galvanised City in a way, certainly in the second half. and I just thought United moved the ball too slowly. You know, when you're up against 10 minutes, the whole cliche, isn't it? Everyone says it's more difficult than you realise, but I think you've got to help yourself. And yeah, I think it was touching on what you said there, James.

17:26Stuart James: I think it was the 70th minute when they had their next shot on target after the red card, which is astonishing, really. Yeah, and City, you know, played really, really well. The substitution that he made, I love Ryan Shirky. I didn't want to see him come off, but it was a logical substitution to make. and City were the better team in the second half, which is incredible to say, really, with 10 men. They kept the ball well, they created chances, whereas United just looked like a team that had run out of ideas, and even at the end, when probably their best moment, really good ball from Bruno Fernandes, who I didn't actually think played particularly well in the game, although I think I was also, my judgment's probably coloured by the fact that he irritated me with that Foden instant.

18:08Stuart James: I agree with everything that had been said, but the way he went down on the floor, I just find that really, really frustrating. I know Enzo Fernandes later did the same for City. But anyway, he plays this lovely ball at the end into Brian Mbumo's path. That is your opportunity, Man United. And he didn't really hit that ball with any conviction. Of course, it's a really good save from Donnarumma. But yeah, really disappointing from United's point of view, especially playing against 10. And yeah, it feels like a huge result for City. City played 4-1-4. I think Oli Kay, one of our reporters said, yeah, they're played 4-1-4.

18:39Stuart James: And United are four points from four games. and that says everything really.

18:43Colin Millar: They are. They're down in 13th place. Obviously we've seen this kind of thing from them in previous seasons. It was supposed to be different under Carrick. At what point do people start to worry do you think Tom? I guess if they're still in the same kind of position in another couple of months time. I mean Carrick generated an awful lot of goodwill with the success or the relative success that he achieved. results-wise after coming in. Things had clearly got pretty rotten under Ruben Amarim and Carrick made sense for all manner of different reasons. The mere fact of being a very decorated ex-United player gives him a status and kudos in the eyes of United fans that your average manager is not going to have.

19:36Colin Millar: But also just the fact that he is a very kind of calming presence whereas Amarim seemed to be kind of like lighting fires left, right and centre, characters, everything that he can to put them out. And the main thing he did after he came in was he just started putting players in their preferred positions, did lots of things that made sense both tactically and got the fans on side, putting Bruno Fernandes back in the number 10 position, bringing Kobi Mono back into the team, etc. But you look at the results so far, mystifyingly inept performance on the opening weekend against Hull. You know, big win at home to Ipswich 5-2 in their next game, albeit some circumstances conspired in their favour.

20:15Colin Millar: Thought they were going to win at Everton until Ainsley Maitland-Niles pops up and equalises at the death. And then, you know, beaten today. Having started the game looking reasonably good until the dismissal. I think the fact that Carrick had such a positive impact and still feels like he ticks a lot of boxes instinctively means that I don't think it's going to be panic stations anytime soon. the fact that lots of other clubs on United's level are misfiring as well will also buy him time but I think if they're still kind of mid-table come Christmas time then people will start to ask the question if they're not asking it already I mean you just asked it James so in many ways they are people are asking the question that's official I don't think they're playing poorly I think they're managing games poorly I think today well that's his responsibility the team?

21:06Colin Millar: I think it's a bit of both. I think it's a bit of both. They set the game up well. They tactically didn't really respond to the change in state of City, not affording them the space they love to play into and City making it a different game and forcing it to be played on their terms. I don't think Michael Carrick reacted to it well. I don't think the substitutions made too much sense. I think Benjamin Sesko could have come on a lot earlier for that type of game. I think taking Marcus Rashford off might have been a mistake as well whenever they were chasing the game but I do think you need a little bit of that on the field too in terms of players knowing that you can't slow the game down and that happened last week against Everton too that they were playing well they would have got a goal the momentum would have been with them and then they were like they just sat off they didn't force through any advantage and that allows the opposition to gain a bit of confidence too so I think there's a little bit of sort of street smarts that they've lacked I do want to come back slightly to Enzo Moresca because obviously last year he coached Chelsea at Old Trafford and they got the early red card whenever Robert Sanchez the goalkeeper was sent off.

22:03And he had this really weird sort of 20 or 25 minute spell. I don't know who can remember this, but they made three substitutions in that first half. They went 2-0 down and the game changed later on. But it was such a weird moment for him as a coach.

22:16Colin Millar: He took off his attacking players, is that right? I remember him taking off Cole Palmer and sort of going very defensive. Whereas today? Whereas today, they kept, well, they did make changes. They obviously took off, as Stu referenced, they took off Ryan Cherky at halftime. but what they did was they maintained their width, they maintained their out ball and that really helped attack United's main weakness which is their full backs, certainly for this game. Diogo Dalo I think had a pretty poor game. Patrick Dorgue who isn't really naturally a left back, we've talked about Mania's left back situation before and he was actually at fault for the initial goal, it was his giveaway that led to City's cross through Semenu.

22:53So yeah, I mean United have weaknesses and City exploited them very, very well and I thought their management of this game was very impressive and the one thing I had about City going into this season was Pep Guardiola leaving. Was that actually a good thing? Was that something they needed? Was it the right time? Because I think the last two years, I'm not sure City would have won that match in the manner they did under Pep Guardiola. But I'm just putting that out there.

23:18Colin Millar: Well, they won it under Enzo Mureska and level with Arsenal on points, they remain. Let's move on from the derby to the team that could potentially beat derby. I'm talking about Coventry nobody predicted this from Frank Lampard's side after their summer of expenditure but there they are bottom of the table no points, no goals scored and today a 5-0 thrashing at home to Brighton Crikey, how concerned are you Stu about Coventry?

23:51Stuart James: Very, yeah I'm very concerned James I think for them what's harder to take or must be harder to take as well is the fact that the other two promoted teams have started well, exceptionally well, obviously in the case of Harbibs, which have got two wins on the board too. And, you know, Coventry were really good in the championship last season, but I think today would have been especially hard for them because actually at Man City last week, they played really well and they deserve something from that game. And then you come back to playing at home. Brighton's not an easy match by any stretch, but yeah, they were, it's strange.

24:25Stuart James: If you look at the stats, They actually had a lot of efforts on goal, but efforts on goal where they're not clinical, they're not ruthless, they're not convincing in front of goal in any way. And then at the other end, some of the defending was so, so bad. And obviously, they lose a player too, one is sent off, red card when they're 2-0 down. And that was the end of any hopes of coming back into the game. The crowd, to be fair, stuck with the team largely. They were still all on their feet, you know, clapping, singing during the last 5-10 minutes. but you wonder how long that will last and obviously the fact you haven't scored a goal to yet I know they're not the only team obviously Spurs are in that situation as well but I think when you're a promoted team you've come up and you haven't been there for 25 years there's a kind of feel-good factor a lot of momentum behind you to then lose the first four games to not score and also one of those games was against Hull at home which was especially hard to take yeah it's really really dispiriting and inevitably you know the derby the derby sort of scenario will be mentioned which in some ways is crazy because we're only four games into the season but

25:29Colin Millar: um i'm so sorry such such as that derby team's cultural sway that even we're not even we've not even had the international break yet still mid-september and already they loom it's like you know like advent calendars it's a window that i can't help opening even though we're not even in Yeah, the Derby chocolate has been eaten already. Already, I'm so sorry. The taste of good. Coventry, only the fifth side in top flight history. So going all the way back to the dawn of football to lose each of their opening four matches without scoring. The other four previously, well, the most recent was Frank de Boer's Crystal Palace, which of course saw the intervention of Roy Hodgson to rescue that dismal start of the season.

26:12Colin Millar: Prior to them, you have to go back a long way. Preston in 1924-25, Stoke in 1906-07, and Derby. Yes, Derby, in 1899-1900. They must have been so chuffed when Derby 07-08 came along. Chuffed, great news. I think this lot might be even worse than us. Wow. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Anyway, so, yeah, Coventry with some problems. Brighton, though, looking absolutely fantastic. there. What did anybody love about this Brighton performance? The Lewis Dunk goal, just the fact that... Yeah, I mean, as Stu said, Coventry actually had quite a few opportunities at the first half an hour. Bart Verbruggen made a couple of fantastic saves.

26:58Colin Millar: I think if you've been told after half an hour that they'd end up losing 5-0, you might have struggled to believe it. But yeah, I mean, Brighton scored some lovely goals. Gostoulas' opener is brilliant. Pascal Gross wins a ball that's been cleared and Costullo takes a touch the ball kind of sits up and he heads it away from his market into space finishes really neatly like Couillé young player who we're all you know discovering and who scored a couple of goals already I think runs through to get the second and then yeah Lewis Dunk with the fourth absolute world and just like there are only a certain number of circumstances in which Lewis Dunk is likely to try his luck from that kind of range and being 3-0 up against a promoted team with seven minutes left on the clock is one of them.

27:45Colin Millar: And he just hits it in such relaxed fashion, like a really kind of languid action to it. And the ball just loops up, dips, top left corner, sensational. First goal he scored with his feet since last decade, certainly. Yeah, I can believe that. My favourite thing about that goal was the reaction from Brighton's bench. who just all sort of stood up as one and were just clapping him. And it just reminded me of like in cricket, whenever you have a sort of lower order batsman scoring a century and then just lapping up at the moment, you know, tipping the hat to the balcony. And that was very much Lewis Dunk's moment.

28:22It was an incredible shot. And on a weekend of some great goals, that might have topped a lot.

28:26Colin Millar: There's an expression which I think comes from Dutch football. It's something like a Sunday shot. I'll have to look this up. And it basically describes an improbable long-range goal from a player who doesn't score many long-range goals. But why Sunday shot? Because, I don't know, I'll look it up and get back to you. In fact, if you could pass me a copy of the book I wrote. Tom has a book right here that probably explains that. Next time Colin does an answer, we'll give Tom the book and then you can look it up. Do You Speak Football is the volume you undoubtedly know explaining the linguistic idiosyncrasies of footballing jargon around the world.

29:02Colin Millar: Stuart?

29:03Stuart James: Yeah, I was just coming in on what Tom said. So true. I was watching this game with my daughter and she's got sort of a on-off relationship with football. And she said, that was so casual how he hit that ball. And I thought, yeah, it was unbelievably casual. I think a centre back. Sorry, I'm showing my age here. I think of Johnny Method, you know, drilling a ball from like 35 yards with his laces past Phil Parks. OK, Johnny Method could play a little bit in midfield too. But this was just caressed beautifully into the top corner, like a kind of shooting drill. You know, it's being filmed at the end of a session and everyone's having a little bit of fun.

29:36Stuart James: So it was an amazing strike from Lewis Duncan. Yeah, like you say, the reaction on the bench said it all, really. But yeah, brilliant Brighton performance. I think I'm right in saying they're the Premier League's top scorers.

29:48Colin Millar: They are the top scorers. They are top four, points out Michael Cambialisa, 7-9-3-6. Brighton top four with the most goals scored without any of our key attackers with injury. Up the Albion. So yeah, what a job they're doing. Oh, look, Tom's got Do You Speak Football? for replacement nice and subtle what have you what have you found yeah so it's an expression that exists in in Dutch but also German Zondagschot in Dutch and Sontagschuss in German and yeah a Sunday shot I guess the idea being that you know it's like Sunday league football do you explain that? yeah yeah yeah the big kind of the big centre back takes a touch sees there's nothing on has a pop and it just flies it's way in but why on a Sunday Tom?

30:30Colin Millar: because that's when amateur football matches take place oh we see it's an amateur yeah yeah yeah Yeah, it's the kind of thing you see in those kind of circumstances. All right then. Well done to Brighton. Better luck next time to Coventry. Let's move on then to Saturday's action.

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32:45Colin Millar: Arsenal had a bit of a wobble, or a bit of a scare anyway, away to Sunderland at the Stadium of Light. A key 120 seconds potentially in their title defense when a penalty was awarded against to the outrage of Mikel Arteta. But David Rea, with a wonderful save, manages to keep the game goalless. And then within two minutes, Bruno Gimaraes unleashes another of the finest goals of this weekend up the other end. What a place for him to score his first goal for Arsenal, eh? Up at Sunderland.

33:24Stuart James: Yeah, it was kind of meant to be, wasn't it? Really good substitution, in fairness. I didn't think Luis Scully was having the best of halves for Arsenal. And then Bruno Gimaraes comes on and scores that incredible goal. Yeah, that was a kind of real defining period, wasn't it? David Rea making a brilliant save. And it was a brilliant save. You know, sometimes you see a penalty hit and you think, well, it's not really well placed or hit with conviction. But I don't think that was a bad penalty by Enzo Le Fay. And that just shows David Rea's value to Arsenal, I guess. Just one player I want to talk about there, if you don't mind, James.

33:56Stuart James: Brian Brobby's hold-up play is unbelievable. I don't think I've seen anyone playing like that up front for probably 20 years or not because the ball isn't really played into strikers much now, right? They don't want them involved in build-up, most managers, which is the modern trend. They want them to pin centre-half, stay away and leave space for others. Whereas Sunderland were quite old-school going into him a lot. And why wouldn't you? Because poor old Esri Konza. I mean, in the end, he almost gave up. He just stood off in two yards because you can't get near him when he's pinning you. and I thought he was brilliant.

34:27Stuart James: He played really well the week before as well against Brentford. Yeah, and I love a little bit of a throwback up front. So it was a really big performance from him and probably deserved more. But yeah, ultimately an amazing result for Arsenal. I say amazing because I think Sunderland's such a hard place to go to and they were really up for that game. So to go there and win 2-0, it's a statement win really.

34:47Colin Millar: Absolutely. You're not the only one. I love Brobby's butt and I cannot lie, certainly for you, Tom, possibly Colin as well. you were you were you were you're a fan of sheet code yeah human sheet code I think Sunderland are and Brian Brodby kind of encompasses quite a lot of this is that they're a team that you can get behind quite easily you can see why their fans are up for it because it's the style of play which is quite direct it's quite in your face but you can you can kind of get behind it quite easily and I agree with Stu's analysis that this is a really important win for Arsenal I don't think Arsenal played particularly well but I think that was through Sunderland's own performance and whilst Arsenal yeah they've beaten Chelsea in the past week they've beaten Napoli in the past week this is probably their toughest assignment in terms of this game last year they dropped points obviously there was a late equaliser then for Sunderland in that 2-2 draw and Sunderland there's been quite a bit of chat this season because they're in Europe and because maybe they didn't have the same levels of investment that they had last summer could they keep going with this project and with this style of play but I think the early weeks of the season have been very very positive from them very positive yeah they've got az outmar coming up in the europa league which is taking place this week that's on when excuse me that's on wednesday palace and bournemouth also in midweek action in that competition chelsea not famously and i want to talk about their 2-2 draw with hull 2-2 draw with hull hull who came into this having not conceded a goal they did obviously ship a couple here but they maintain their unbeaten start.

36:23Colin Millar: All this taking place in front of the watching Timothee Chalamet, who maybe was there scouting for his three-a-side team from the advert, you know? Yes. He's a big football fan, isn't he? Saint -Étienne, his team. He's been on French TV multiple times in Saint -Étienne's Colours, talking about... Was he on the same show that you were on, Tom, once? I have not yet had the pleasure. Have you not had the pleasure? No. I'll let you know if that changes. If he was scouting for his three-a-side crew. Presumably he wasn't looking at Chelsea's defenders, Stu. Would that be fair?

36:56Stuart James: Yeah, it's a strange team, Chelsea, at this moment in time, isn't it? At the top end, you think we draw Pedro, Morgan Rodgers and Cole Palmer, obviously they're going to create chances all the time. But it feels like they need to score three or four to win every game at this moment in time. And that's partly defensively. I think the full-back positions are a problem for them. I actually also worry about in front of defence too. I think the midfield's a bit of a mess. They're obviously missing Casado at the moment and trying to paper over the cracks a little bit with James. And Lavia's still, it feels like, just into the Premier League, he's missed so much football over time and adapting to how Alonso wants his team to play.

37:35Stuart James: But yeah, that was a strange old game on Saturday because you could look at it and think maybe Hull were hanging on at the end if you didn't know. And Hull had a really great opportunity to win it 3-2. They played some really good stuff on the weekend. Yes, we know how they set up, you know, 5-4-1, very difficult to beat, narrow. But actually, they counter-attack really well and caused Chelsea a lot of problems, probably partly because we ended up with a bizarre collection of Chelsea players on the pitch. And those three I mentioned, and then Welbeck was out there as well. And then Neto, and then Neto was replaced by Esteval.

38:11Stuart James: It was like almost 5-0-5 or, you know, 3-2-5 at one point as Alonso chased the win. But yeah, until they sort out the defence, James, but I think the point, I don't think it is just a defence. I think it's just, it's also what the team looks like out of possession. They're very, very open. Then, yeah, realistically, they're not going to be near to being City and Arsenal. And I think we can see that already in terms of four games in the tables. It sounds crazy to say it, but the title race is almost taking shape now. And there's too many shortcomings, weaknesses and teams like Chelsea to think that they can bridge that gap.

38:43Stuart James: Maybe that was unrealistic anyway, given what he inherited. But yeah, they're entertaining to watch, but I'm sure they drive you a little bit mad. And I think Alonso said that the weekend, drive you mad if you're a Chelsea fan. Alonso said, I'd actually take a kind of, you know, bit of a messy one nil win at the moment. But they don't look like getting one of those.

38:59Colin Millar: He's only just come into the job, of course. Colin, you've got worrying comparisons with his last spell at Real Madrid. Well, yes and no. I think that I think people misconceptualise his time at Real Madrid a little bit in the sense that there's a sort of easy narrative. There can be he went into this dressing room full of spoiled players and they essentially forced him out after a couple of months. Now, I don't think that matches the reality of the situation. I think he did struggle to assert his authority, which is maybe a little bit surprising considering he was a very successful player in his own right in terms of what he did and what he accomplished.

39:32You kind of think that would have been a natural environment for him, but he did struggle in that sense. But what is interesting to me is he said after that match, as Stu alluded to, he's like, I want us to be boring. I want us to actually just get results rather than playing in the way we play. But when he started at Real Madrid, that was almost the accusation that his teams actually were just sort of really, they were efficient, but really boring because they were winning a lot of, I think they won the first six La Liga games, they won 10 of their first 11. But a lot of them were sort of 1-0s, 2-0s against inferior opposition.

40:05But what is interesting is for me is that Real Madrid's issue last season, and I'm still into this one, is their midfield, right? And they never replaced Toni Kroos. They never replaced Luka Modric. And Chelsea have obviously got midfield issues of their own. Enzo Fernandes has gone, wasn't replaced in the final day of the window, as we know. Moises Casado was out injured. There's not much you can do about that. But there was one or two others left. And Andres Santos was allowed to leave. And Chelsea's midfield, that sort of leads to this structure of not being able to control games in the way they'd want.

40:35Especially a game like this, where we all know what Hull are about. And I don't want to go too much down the road of XG. but Hull's XG was 1.49 compared to Chelsea's 0.89 which considering the game state of Chelsea trailing for a lot of that match is quite significant so you could say the Tigers who came for XG but I'm not trying to crowbar that in but yeah Hull are obviously a much better team than many people, so not just in terms of their set up but in terms of what they can do and what damage they can do but for Chelsea I think Alonso's trying to be creative of his solutions to a midfield problem and at Madrid he did that by trying to be quite sort of dull and efficient but when he did that that one defeat that they had early on was a 5-2 defeat against Atletico Madrid and I don't think he ever fully recovered from that match in terms of his own standing within the dressing room and then his messages became quite mixed so I think he might be a little bit wary of that at Chelsea at the minute I think he's just trying to find a way of getting results and I think he, in his head he's trying to think well the best way of doing that is to rely on our best players, on Cole Palmer, Morgan Rodgers and Joao Pedro to just see them through at the minute whilst he settles on a sustainable style of play.

41:47Colin Millar: Right. Morgan Rodgers contributing a brilliant goal to take the lead in this game. The good news for Chelsea and Xavi Alonso is that, as Stu was mentioning before, a lot of those top four contenders themselves struggling to get their seasons pointing in the right direction. But incredible stuff from Hull. And a quick word for Mohamed Baloumi, for anyone who's not familiar with it, him or his kind of footballing heritage. Tom, what have you got? Well, he is the son of Lakhdar Baloumi, who is one of Algeria's greatest ever footballers, a guy who spent his entire career playing in Algeria at a time when Algerian footballers tended not to leave the country, but was linked with some of the biggest clubs in Europe, was linked with Juventus when Michel Patini was there, played at the 1982 World Cup, scored in the famous victory over West Germany, and is revered in Algeria, but isn't all that well known outside of his own country.

42:40Colin Millar: Said to have been the player who invented the no-look pass. Really? So that allegedly is his gift to the game. And, you know, you watch his son, you watch Mohamed Baloumi and like, okay, can't say that this has just all come from his dad but there's clearly some kind of lineage there because he's a wonderful footballer. And I must admit, you know, I don't watch a huge amount of championship football. He wasn't someone that I was familiar with But right from the opening weekend and that incredible win over Manchester United, he was a player who stood out. I watched them draw against Aston Villa last weekend or the weekend before last, depending on when you listen to this.

43:17Colin Millar: He comes closest to scoring with this fantastic shot from wide on the right that crashes off the crossbar. And yeah, took his two goals brilliantly against Chelsea, albeit the second one was deflected. But yeah, wonderful left foot and one of those players who just makes you think things are going to happen every time he gets on the ball. And Hull's kind of start of the season is really interesting because there was quite a lot of focus on the fact that the tactical setup they deployed for their opening victory against United, the kind of the 5-4-1, had been designed specifically for that game because they'd noticed that United had struggled against teams who played with the back five in preseason.

44:01Colin Millar: but they've stuck with it and it works brilliantly and I think there are faint echoes of the time Hull came up in 2008-09 when they were riding high in the table until kind of like late October surprised everyone with the boldness of their football and we're seeing something very similar again. Giovanni who was part of that team was the Brazilian was very similar in style another of our greatest ever Brazilians Will the Imp says forget Derby's 11 points, Hull are hunting Man City's 100-point record. Well, early days, of course, but you can't rule anything out in the Premier League. Liverpool and Spurs play each other on Tuesday.

44:46Colin Millar: They both had a disappointing time this time round. Next up, let's have a look at what they got up to. Yeah, Carabao Cup clash in round three of that competition coming up on Tuesday between Liverpool and Spurs. Both were unable to score this weekend. Liverpool, in their 0-0 draw with the previously pointless Fulham, James Pearce, Liverpool rising for the Athletics, says they were outplayed for significant periods by a team who had lost all three of their matches before their visit to Anfield. They were flat, careless and disjointed. Another manager trying to sort his team out, And Donny Riola with three draws us out of four, although I guess in his case we've seen all of this before with Bournemouth.

45:34Colin Millar: But Spurs, who were hosting Everton in the tea-time Saturday game, what to make of their performance? Should we start off with a quick word for Everton and them managing to hold Spurs' multi-million-powered attack to, well, zero results. Stu, were you impressed with Everton or you want to just pile in on the Tottenham?

45:59Stuart James: A bit of both. I think with Everton, James, I was looking at it thinking, could you show a bit more ambition and go and win the game? Because I feel there's such a vulnerability about Tottenham at home. And it almost felt like Everton had settled for the point quite early on. They had phases in the game where they attacked a little bit more. Brennan Johnson had a really good chance actually from one of Everton's best moves involving James Garner I thought had a really good game but yeah I don't know I just thought it was and I know they're limited with their attacking options Everton but I felt maybe you look at that and think is that an away game that you can actually go and win and not just think we're happy with a point so yeah maybe glass half empty a bit there but Tottenham I'm a big like when Roberto De Zerbi was at Brighton And I loved him.

46:48Stuart James: I thought his football was amazing. But I looked at that Saturday and I thought it was quite boring for periods. There was a moment about five minutes before halftime. And it was just maddening to watch this because Tottenham hadn't been playing particularly well. Mickey Van Der Wey then won the ball off Tiena Barry in the centre circle. And then Ben Tanker, Fernandes and Tonali just start passing six-yard balls to each other back and forth. Like again and again and again. and the crowd are going crazy. Like we would like to see us try and score a goal and play forward. So, yeah, I just find it a really frustrating performance.

47:24Stuart James: I felt the team looked disjointed. It was like trying to accommodate Solanke, Marmous alongside Savio in attack. And it never really worked. It never really clicked. I think they only had two shots on target. There was sarcastic applause almost from their own fans when they had one early in the second half. And yeah, it feels a mess in a way that I've got to be honest. I didn't think it would be again this season. Obviously, they've had two awful seasons and I genuinely thought De Zerbe would sort it out. They spent a lot of money. I know things don't happen overnight, but even so, you know, four games in, still yet to score.

47:58Stuart James: I don't think they've had a particularly tough start on paper either. It's worrying. I'm not quite sure where they go from here, really.

48:06Colin Millar: Famously, they did score a goal last in the Premier League on the last day of last season against Everton and it was the same opponents they faced this time, having spaffed over 300 million, largely on goal scorers. Have they spent all that money and become a worse team? I don't know if they're a worse team. But they scored goals with the old line-up. Yes, and they've lost important players as well. I mean, let's not forget, they've spent a lot of money. But I kind of think a large part of their summer window was almost we have money and we are spending money. And that is what we're being seen to do.

48:40We're actually a big club. We're not a club who are thinking about possible relegation. We're thinking of we're a top six club again. We're a big six club. We've got a lot of revenue and we're not afraid to spend it. My worry with Tottenham is that they've signed a lot of players who in their own right are good players with qualities. And obviously their sort of central midfield issues last year were a big issue of creativity. But I don't see a team who've got a talisman. I don't see a team who've got a striker who's going to go out there and get 15 or 20 goals a season. And actually it was Richarlison, their goal scorer, the top goal scorer last year, whose goal's really kept Tottenham in the league, has been excluded from their Premier League squad.

49:16He's tried to leave the club. He's been unable to do so for a variety of reasons. And that in itself creates a bit of bad blood. And I think some of Roberto De Zerbi's press conferences would give me a little bit of pause for concern as well. After this match, he came out, made a couple of comments about, well, you know, we're keeping clean sheets now, and if I was in Italy, I'd be the best coach in the league. But one of the things that I found really uncomfortable, actually, was straight after the final whistle. And this was on the cameras, was he went over to Matthias Tell, who had been a late substitute.

49:48Now, Matthias Tell, probably a player who, quite a promising young player, but probably fragile confidence, I think it's fair to say. And he was, I think you could go as far as to say he was almost screaming in his face about not making certain runs or doing a certain movement. Now, this was quite reminiscent of what Pep Guardiola would have done a little bit performative after a match. But Pep Guardiola would have done that from a position of strength, because we've won the match. This player is obviously, you would have been like an Erling Haaland type player, somebody who's been really influential and who can obviously take that.

50:17And that's performative. And what De Zerbe was doing was performative. But I kind of think that went slightly into the realms of bullying because Matthias Tell did not look comfortable with that. So the Tottenham lip readers...

50:29Colin Millar: Tottenham Hotspur lip reader Twitter have seized upon this. And the suggestion is, you can't see what De Zerbe is saying to Tell in the TV footage because he's got his back to the camera. But Tal apparently, and having watched it, I think this possibly is what he says, replies to him, I was just trying to play football, which suggests that he's kind of being asked why he wasn't doing other things that were on his list of responsibilities. And he was just trying to come on and do his thing. But yeah, I mean, Spurs obviously aren't clicking in an attacking sense. The choice to align Mateus Fernandes as the number 10, I find slightly curious.

51:08Colin Millar: obviously a super talented player but watching with watching him with West Ham last season I didn't find myself thinking this is a guy who can be the number 10 for a club who are kind of aiming for European qualification but you look at the players who came off the bench yesterday Mohamed Kourouz who missed a lot of games last season he came on for Fernandes played in the number 10 role James Madison came on later on as well these are players who are better suited to that role I wonder if in the fullness of time, one of them will end up, you know, claiming that jersey in durable fashion. And as much as, you know, Tottenham have been very underwhelming so far, there's an awful lot of new players still being bedded in and a coach who has a very singular vision of football that he's trying to get across.

51:53Colin Millar: You know, the approach yesterday was a new one. Marmouche moves out to the left. Dominic Solanke played at centre forward. So he's trying to find the right formula. And the first 20 minutes, Spurs were brilliant. Like flew out of the traps, really aggressive, you know, pressing high. There was a crispness to the passing. They were getting numbers forward. They created a couple of chances. How many shots on target did they have in that period? Not any, I don't think. But I mean, Jan-Paul Van Hecke had a good chance from an Andy Robertson free kick. But yeah, once that initial fire had just kind of burnt itself out, they did kind of like shrink into their shells a little bit.

52:29Colin Millar: briefly Stuart is this a confidence issue or is this a tactical vision issue

52:34Stuart James: a bit of both but I mean just quickly picking up on that point there they were really good in the first 10 I do think they could have had shots on target and this is one of the really frustrating things the decisions they make that Mateus Fernandez I don't know if you remember this Tom he has a great opportunity Savio cuts it back and then he doesn't shoot he chooses to do like a sole roll to move the ball forward and then the chance is gone and that's the Archie Gray I remember coming inside into the centre of the field. He's got Marmouche one side and I think Solanke appealed the other side and he decides to shoot from 25 yards.

53:03Stuart James: Those things, it happened at Forest the week before as well. That decision-making is really, really letting them down. So, yeah, sorry, James, I haven't answered your question. I think it's both, to be honest. It's not in time.

53:13Colin Millar: No, it's good. An answer to a much better question that I didn't ask. Anyway, Spurs next Saturday are going to be hosting Aston Villa who have actually scored a goal now and it happened this weekend at home to Nottingham Forest. But it was Forest who took all three points winning 2-1 in what is their first victory under their new manager, Oliver Glasner. Oh, we had Liam De Lappe scoring his first goal for Forest straight after the kick-off of the second half. Lovely goal as well. Lovely goal as well. We had Igor Jesus finding the net as well. Lots of positive things for Forest at last. That Morgan Gibbs-White assist for the Ego Jays-O's goal was magnificent.

53:57And I saw the stat that Opta Joe put up that Morgan Gibbs-White has either scored or assisted in eight Premier League away matches in a row for Nottingham Forest, which is one off the Premier League record for any side, which is remarkable. And that shows you his influence. And he scored or assisted three of four goals this season. Last season was similar. He was just involved in so much. and I think the fact that he wasn't in that England squad for the summer World Cup maybe raised a few eyebrows. He wasn't selected for the Premier League team of the year either and you kind of think, what is it about Morgan Gibbs-White that he is continually overlooked for these goals?

54:33Colin Millar: I think he might still be the leading scorer in the Premier League in 2026 unless Haaland has equaled that today. But going into last weekend, he was, I think he scored 13 goals for the calendar year. And you watch him, he's just a dream of a footballer. He's so inventive. I mean, that assist, it's the kind of thing he does all the time. Yeah, again, a massive, massive Morgan Gibbs-White fan. And yeah, it was that flick that ultimately proved decisive in getting Forrest on the board with the first win in the campaign. Excellent, excellent. Lots of other things to discuss still on today's Tootley Football Show, including Swansea Burnley.

55:11Colin Millar: And we'll get on to all of that next.

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58:05Colin Millar: Stuart it was your birthday on Saturday many happy returns thank you very much James yeah yeah you took time out from watching every single game in the Premier League weekend to go and watch your Swansea take on Burnley and you were given a bit of a well Swansea got a bit of a present from the Burnley keeper Max Weiss

58:25Stuart James: yeah he was very generous he had a really bad game and yeah Swansea took full advantage actually Burnley Yeah, the second goal as well. First and second goal, they basically gifted us. So, yeah, we'll accept them. And yeah, it was a really good win. Strange seeing people like Jamie Vardy came on his sub for Burnley and Kyle Walker's playing for Burnley. It's a bit, you know, weird watching them trying to make sense of what Burnley are doing, really. And what tends to happen, I know this is, you know, someone who's been a fan of a championship team for a number of years now, is the teams that come down from the Premier League typically go straight back up or a real force in the Championship because there's such a gulf between the two leagues.

59:04Stuart James: And there are Burnley, yeah, down at the bottom, haven't won a game. So it's a bit odd seeing that, to be honest with you. But yeah, they were very poor on the weekend and the Swans didn't have to be at their best to get a result. But that was a nice birthday present, James. Oh, good.

59:18Colin Millar: Good. I'm delighted you enjoyed that. Burnley, two seasons ago, was it two seasons ago when they were down with Vincent Company before they came up. So it'd be three seasons ago, I guess. Season before last. The promotion season under Scott Parker. Anyway, the promotion season under Vincent Company. They've already conceded this. Under Scott Parker. Hmm? Yes. Yes. Anyway, they've already conceded, this is the important thing, as many goals this season as they did in that entire campaign. Swansea, in rude health, in a three-way tie at the top of the championship. Who are the other two teams with them?

59:51Colin Millar: Well, West Brom and West Ham, who this weekend had quite the result beating Wrexham 6-0. 6-0. Wow. First time in the Hammers history there's as many as six different players who have scored for them in a league match. You also, if you're watching the Championship this weekend, may have seen a particularly egregious miss from Birmingham's Luis Vasquez at Derby. Bad. Like an all-timer. Quite often these days you hear, oh, miss of the season, how has you missed that? And you see it and you're like, oh yeah, But it was coming at him fast or it bobbled. This is just Ronnie Rosenthal levels. Someone has a shot and the goalkeeper palms it out.

1:00:33Colin Millar: And it's just kind of like trundling across the box. And Vasquez comes in from the left and has the whole goal to aim at. And there's no one anywhere near him. And he just side foots it over the bar. Kudos to him for choosing the side foot, which usually guarantees a degree of accuracy. Unfortunately, just put a little bit too much on it and up it went into the sky. Well, there you go. Suraj Kumar says, I'm a Swamzee fan from India, so this is a great surprise to hear about my club here. There you go. James B. 3289 says, has Leif Davis got a chance to be called up for England? Has he? I remember tipping him for an England call-up when Ipswich last came up because, you know, England have this long-standing left-back problem and then Ipswich were dreadful and we didn't really see that much of him.

1:01:19Colin Millar: but he was the star of the show against Palace on Saturday. A goal, an assist, and he is a very modern, rampaging left back. So Stu hasn't seen this. This is one of the few games he hasn't seen from this weekend yet. So he's going to find all of this very interesting. Lee Davis with a goal and an assist, and he almost got another goal, a header against crossbar late on as Ipswich came from behind away to Palace. One of your favourite Premier League players, Juguet Inciso, was in action as well. Didn't get on the score sheet, but was a big part of this one as well. As the two worst defences in the Premier League came head to head and the goals ensued.

1:02:00Colin Millar: Ipswich, we've spoken glowingly about Hull. Same for Ipswich, Gary O 'Neill's Ipswich. Yeah, I think so. I think when we talk about Leif Davis, and obviously his obvious qualities are in attack and what he brings to the final third. and that was evident on Saturday. I think that suits a Gary O 'Neill team. The Gary O 'Neill sort of set up where they don't mind sitting deep but then they break quite fast and in numbers. That caused, I know they lost 5-2 against Manchester United but they caused them quite a lot of problems then and I think they probably took a lot of heart from that performance and being true to what their game plan was.

1:02:33And obviously they've got a big attack and threat in general. Zian Fleming, who scored the winner, he scored I think 16 goals since the start of last season when he was with Burnley and that was on quite a low-scoring Burnley side and that's probably a little bit of what they're missing at the minute. So I think Ipswich have recruited smartly this summer. I think whenever they went up the previous time under Kieran McKenna, there was an acceptance that it was going to be very difficult, that they were signing players with a sort of longer term view that were they to go down again, they were sort of ready-made, very high quality championship level players.

1:03:02Whereas this summer has been Julio and Cecil coming in, Zian Fleming who got those goals last year and others throughout that team. Where they kind of look, there's certainly more of a self-assuredness to this team, I think. And a team that, again, like Hull, who just offer something a little bit different and give teams a problem tactically. It's just being a little bit different. I think when we spoke about Coventry earlier, I think the reason that Coventry maybe have struggled is that they kind of just used the same tactics they used in the championship, which was against inferior players. But now their games are far too open and they're losing matches quite heavily and their confidence takes a knock.

1:03:38but I think Gary O 'Neill and with Hull City as well, they've got a slightly different approach and they've modified from what the teams were last year. They've maybe grown a little bit and become more pragmatic and I think that's quite problematic for teams. Okay, Axel de Sassi's very card for Palace maybe dictates this game a little bit but yeah, they made a great start and it sort of throws open the entire bottom half of the Premier League this season. Certainly does.

1:04:03Colin Millar: Only four games in so we won't look at it yet but it's tempting, isn't it? By the way, Gary O 'Neill's some place for the academy at Crystal Palace. I didn't know that. Interesting. One other game so far this weekend was the 2-2 draw between Bournemouth and Brentford. To take the lead and not win the game once in the Premier League might be seen as misfortune, Stuart. I'm kind of paraphrasing here. But to do it four games in a row, do you have to wonder if something's going on with the mentality of these Cherries players? What's the story?

1:04:38Stuart James: Yeah, I had a Bournemouth fan actually not happy with me having Bournemouth so high last week, which is a strange one. You normally get criticised for the opposite, but saying, we keep letting in these late goals, you know, that's just not good enough. That is part of performance. And of course it is. But yeah, I actually think these are two of my favourite teams this season, James, Brentford and Bournemouth. I've really enjoyed watching them. Brentford, especially in the first two games, against Leeds and Spurs. And Bournemouth absolutely deserve, well, they've got three points on the board, I think, from four games.

1:05:06Stuart James: yeah that should be far more than that obviously they were leading at City until late on the opening day they were brilliant in Newcastle last weekend as well and deserved more than a point there and played really really well I guess if there's one positive yesterday they didn't let in a late goal again I remember there was some balls being bombarded on Coyote he was throwing balls in in the way he does sort of Rory de Lapp fashion and I can imagine I was thinking if you conceded from one of those I think they'd have struggled to recover from that mindful of previous weeks But yeah, there was a lot of positives for them again yesterday.

1:05:37Stuart James: Yeah, sorry to bring XG into it too, but theirs was really, really high. They created some brilliant chances. Actually, it's probably the best I've seen even Ilsen play. I'm not going to put him in the same bracket as Brian Brodby, who's a one-off. But his hold-up play was great. He was linking really, really well with the two wingers, either side of him and Alex Scott coming through. So I think there's loads of positives there. I know they'll obviously be really disappointed that they've let all these really good positions slip this season. But I like the way they play. They play fast, you know, slick football.

1:06:12Stuart James: And they've recruited well again. You know, they lose so many players every summer. Antonio Silva's come in centre-back from Benfica and his passing was brilliant yesterday. They've just got a knack of finding players, much like Brentford, really. So, yeah, OK, the table doesn't look brilliant. but well it looks good in my performance table put it that way they're playing well excellent

1:06:35Colin Millar: where are you going to put them in your performance table stew this week oh gosh do you know what can

1:06:39Stuart James: i just say on that james i tie myself in knots over this it is ridiculous actually i think a reader made a really really good comment and they said what would make this easier stroke better is if we did it like a school report so it was a b c d e you know all graded um and and then you could have actually several teams on the same. Whereas last week, I think there were six draws last week. And yeah, should Forrest be above Spurs? Should Spurs be above Forrest? A 0-0 draw when there's not... So sorry, I don't know yet because I haven't watched all the games, but they'll be high. They will be top six.

1:07:12Colin Millar: Plenty of time. I'm going to give a very big must-try harder, though, to the Bournemouth keeper, Georgi Pektovic, who, well, he had a bit of a mare. Yeah, well, I mean, Brentford's second goal is delivered to them and in particular Kevin Sharder on a plate. And this is three minutes after Marcus Tavenier has just put Bournemouth in front. And Petrovic, who is renowned for his ability to play out from the back, he spent a season on loan at Strasbourg and watched him quite a lot. and he's really good, but consequently he occasionally gets a bit overconfident and he overconfidently stroked the ball straight to Kevin Sharder who just as confidently stroked it back over his head.

1:07:57Colin Millar: Confident is a double-edged sword, isn't it? Isn't it just? Cherries will begin their maiden European campaign in the Europa League. They are, I think they're away. Yeah, they're going to Real Sociedad. That'll be a lovely trip to Basque Country. That game is on Thursday. Previously we mentioned... Who was the team we mentioned that was in the... Another team that was in there were playing on Tuesday. Can't think of who that was. No. Anyway, but Palace are also in the Europa League. They're playing Lech Poznan. Pretty sure Charlie's shouting on the other side of them. Sunderland. Playing AZ. AZ Altmar.

1:08:32Colin Millar: There you go. Oh, you know what? In our European Totally Football show, which will be with you Tuesday, just in time for some of these fixtures, we'll have a bit of a preview of the Europa League because that's the only European competition taking place this midweek. And there's clearly some pretty exciting games going on. So, Tom, you'll be there. We'll have Paul. We'll have James Horncastle, Seb Stafford Bloor. It'll be great. Do join us for that. But I think with Newcastle leads still to come from the Premier League weekend that we kind of wrapped up match day four. Unless anybody else has got any other things they want to add in, then we'll probably let Stu go back to his marathon matchday viewing.

1:09:16Colin Millar: Stu, thank you so much for taking time out from that to join us, to give us some early unfiltered thoughts.

1:09:23Stuart James: Thanks very much for having me on. Really enjoyed it.

1:09:25Colin Millar: Well, I will be looking forward to your who has won the weekend and who is very much definitely the best team and the worst team in the league this week. Definitively. Definitively. So anyway, that's on the Athletic, of course. should be with you well on Tuesday after they play on Monday night Tom be seeing you on Monday for Tuesday's European show Conor look forward to seeing you again soon on the Totally Football Show do hope we'll have your company as well viewer stroke listener and thank you for being with us this evening with our thanks to Charlie and Jake in the booth from all of us here it's goodnight

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