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24 Jun 2025 · 46m · 18 chapters

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109: RIDICULOUS Garnacho Transfer Demand! More Mbuemo & Rashford DELAYS!

In short

Manchester United transfer news and delays, focusing on Ivan Toney? (not mentioned), but specifically: Rasmus? (not mentioned). Main focus is Amad? (not mentioned). The episode centers on: “Mbemo” (likely Bryan Mbeumo) transfer status, Alejandro Garnacho’s £70m valuation, Marcus Rashford’s potential delay/loan to Barcelona, and knock-on effects on pre-season and striker/midfielder recruitment.

Guest backgrounds

No guests appear in the transcript. The host, Mark Goldbridge, says Ben Jacobs will join live at midday; other referenced reporters include Laurie Whitwell (The Athletic), Fabrizio Romano, Rob Dawson, James Ducker, and Manchester Evening News.

Key claims

Mbeumo deal is stuck on payment terms despite reaching Brentford’s £60m asking figure; Garnacho is priced at £70m but host argues maximum up-front is ~£40m and United may end up taking ~£35m; Rashford sale may become a loan late in the window, harming striker recruitment and pre-season readiness. Also claims United want an athletic midfielder; if Casemiro leaves, a midfielder move could follow.

Notable examples

Garnacho spotted in a Villa shirt; Rashford potentially loaned to Barcelona; Joao? (Gonçalo? “Jokeres/Jokores” likely Viktor Gyökeres) reportedly in conflict with Sporting and not expected to return to training; Casemiro linked to Saudi (Al Nazeer).

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Chapters

1:09

Transfer Updates: Mbamo and Ganacho

Discussion on the latest transfer news concerning Mbamo and Ganacho.

“Pacific Life and Annuity, Phoenix, Arizona.”
1:57

Transfer Updates: Mbamo and Ganacho

Discussion on the latest transfer news concerning Mbamo and Ganacho.

“Remember, it was him last night who started off the Embermo avalanche of stories about second bids.”
6:08

The Implications of Ganacho's Price Tag

Exploration of the challenges and implications of Ganacho's high asking price.

“We thought it was going to happen on July the 1st.”
10:25

Negotiation Challenges and Future Prospects

A critical look at Manchester United's negotiation strategies and future deals.

“straight after the final and basically mugged him off.”
14:00

Manchester United's Transfer Dilemmas

Discussion on the contradictions in Manchester United's transfer strategy and their struggles with player valuations.

“We're going to negotiate the death out of this.”
18:18

Rashford's Future and Transfer Window Chaos

Analysis of Marcus Rashford's potential transfer and the chaotic nature of United's summer dealings.

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18:49

Rashford's Future and Transfer Window Chaos

Analysis of Marcus Rashford's potential transfer and the chaotic nature of United's summer dealings.

“The big difference is Mbemo and Kunja are 25 performing in the Premier League in inferior teams to Manchester United, with all due respect.”
22:45

The Inevitability of Player Sales

Discussion on the prospects of selling or loaning players like Garnacho and the implications for the club's future.

“They don't come back for pre-season and Amrim doesn't have to listen to all the bullshit about are they going to play for Man United.”
28:00

The Transfer Dilemma: Need for Movement

Discussion on the current state of player transfers and the need for action.

“You know, it gets to a point where you just go, this is just wasting everybody's time.”
28:40

Striker Search and Club Needs

Analyzing Manchester United's urgent need for a new striker.

“It's about fitness and sharpness as well.”
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30:10

The Midfield Quandary

Exploring the need for an athletic midfielder and potential squad changes.

“We absolutely must get a striker as well.”
31:25

Managerial Decisions and Player Trust

Debate over manager Amarim's choices and player performances.

“It's in the core and he wants a midfielder.”
33:00

Allegiances and Club Direction

Discussion on player allegiances and the future direction of Manchester United.

“And I'm sure Mason Mount will be one of those players if he's not injured.”
34:25

Player Transfers and Financial Implications

Analyzing potential player transfers and the financial aspects involved.

“A couple of other bits I just wanted to bring in this morning as well.”
42:44

Manchester United's Transfer Strategy

Analysis of Manchester United's transfer spending compared to rivals.

“Pacific Life and Annuity, Phoenix, Arizona.”
48:10

Concerns for the Upcoming Season

Discussion on the challenges facing Manchester United ahead of the new season.

“The thing is, if you've got rich owners, they would be saying, fuck Ganacho off the 35 million and get Rashford out on loan.”
51:00

Johnny Evans and Club Dynamics

Exploration of Johnny Evans' role in the club and team dynamics.

“It's going to be for some very interesting updates.”
51:51

Johnny Evans and Club Dynamics

Exploration of Johnny Evans' role in the club and team dynamics.

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1:47Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. And this is the place to be this morning and lunchtime. We've got Ben Jacobs live on the show at midday going through the latest Manchester United transfer news. Remember, it was him last night who started off the Embermo avalanche of stories about second bids. There could be more delay. Let's summarise where we are with Embermo. We've also got interesting updates coming out from The Athletic and Laurie Whitwell. Man United's ridiculous slash incredible£70 million price tag on Ganacho.

2:24So what type of prat do we have putting information out like that? I mean, it's just incredible. Also, Marcus Rashford, as predicted, could be another big delay. He could be on the tour. He could be on preseason as he waits for a deal with Barcelona at the end of the window. United do want a striker. It's on the list. But we're also looking at a midfielder as well. Who could that be? Really interesting updates this morning. We'll get into all of them. But I think overarchingly, some of them very, very positive, no doubt about it. But I would still pose this question. Less than two weeks to the start of preseason, lots of talk of this, that and the other.

3:05Some of these things are naturally, obviously, factually going to lead to delays. I don't think at the moment Ruben Amrim's heading on tour with a team that you can build for the start of the season against Arsenal. It just doesn't look possible. There's a lot of talk, but there's not enough action. That can change, but a lot of this is talk and a lot of it is going to take time. Right, let's start off with, I mean, I don't really know where to start, but let's start off. Let's just start off with Mbamo very, very quickly, because I think this is something where some people are saying, are we going to get a here we go?

3:40I read what Rob Dawson said last night about United are hopeful that Mbamo will be in in time for the US tour. not pre-season, the US Tour, which is actually four weeks away. So where are we at with Embermo? The summary is this. I could give you Rob Dawson, Fabrizio Romano, Ben Jacobs, James Ducker, Manchester Evening News. Everybody has spoken about the Embermo situation. So it's unfair to really highlight a particular source other than Ben Jacobs, who obviously hit it first last night. But the basic summary of where we are, because everybody has written about this, to be fair, the Daily Mail, everybody.

4:21Man United have hit the magic£60 million that Brentford want. Where we're at now is how long is a piece of string before we get here we go? Because nobody can do a here we go or a bomber or anything like that until Brentford agree the terms of the payments. So Man United's package has hit the£60 million that Brentford want. They're not looking to push it to 70 or 80 or anything like that. This is about installments and this is about how Man United pay the deal. And at the moment, nobody knows whether we've offered 60 million up front, 60 million over three years or 60 million if Mbremo wins as the Champions League.

5:00We don't know the detail. And that is why people saying, oh, I'm expecting a here we go any minute. I mean, that'd be great. That would be great. And we can ask Ben Jacobs at midday as to when he thinks this is going to happen, because obviously he had the first drop on it last night. But if the deal is 45 million plus 15 in add-ons that aren't achievable, this won't get accepted. So they look at Cunha and they think that Embermo's as good as Cunha and we're paying 60 million to Wolves over the next three years. So basically Brentford want the same. I don't have a massive problem with that. I mean, do Brentford actually have a point?

5:36Like, is there any difference between Cunha and Embermo? And have, you know, they know the deal. So this could still run for a few more weeks. I would hope it will run for a couple of days, but it still could run for a few more weeks. We'll have to wait and see. But nobody at this moment in time, and it might change at lunchtime when we speak to Ben Jacobs, but nobody at this moment in time can say he's going to be holding the shirt up next week or by the end of this week. It could still be a couple of weeks. And I would say, remember Christian Eriksen. We knew we were getting Christian Eriksen on a free.

6:08We thought it was going to happen on July the 1st. I don't think he held the shirt up until like July the 12th. So days can go on, but that's why it would go on. The really interesting thing I would say about this morning, and this has come in from Laurie Whitwell in The Athletic. Some really interesting things about Marcus Rashford, the midfield and Ganacho. Manchester United have informed those interested in Ganacho that his price tag is£70 million. So Ryan says it's a joke. Raccoon says it will be when we release the away shirt. Well, to be honest with you, I think whoever finds out when we're releasing the next kit, you know, two plus two, you're going to get a new signing at that point.

6:52So Man United from Laurie Whitwell in The Athletic, who will be well sourced. you know he does get information from the club has been told that man united want 70 million pounds for ganacho i actually think this is double what is achievable right now the guy is working walking around in a villa shirt and we think we're gonna get 70 million i mean you talk about delay i just want him gone today i don't want to wait on some petty little sabotaging spiteful you wore a Villa shirt so we're going to fuck you up for the rest of the summer transfer window. I mean, he can do that, but does it not just mess up?

7:33We know we need to sell to buy. Get him out. Get rid of him. I was joking on X today that apparently he's got a Sancho Chelsea shirt in his suitcase and he's going to do a picture of that soon. The funny thing is, who can say he won't? Just get the deal done quickly, as I said yesterday. £70 million is stupid. Absolutely stupid. Now, you might be able to get some sort of add-ons in there and you would hope that you would. But what you're going to get up front is maximum 40 million. And then you're going to have to hope for salon clauses and add-ons. And maybe you move that up to 70 million pounds, but you're not going to get 70 million pounds right now.

8:14You're not. And look, I was walking Seb to school this morning. He's eight. You know what? You know what? I did a video on my Goldbridge Hot Takes Instagram page, give it a follow. But this morning's video was basically about like a one and a half minute with clips reaction to the Ganacho thing. And Seb heard it. So he wanted to look at it. He was like, is that him in the villa shirt? And I went, yeah. And you know what? His words were unprompted. He's betrayed us. It's like he doesn't know we like him. And I was like, that's from an eight year old. So I might not get it as a bloke in my forties, but an eight year old's instant reaction to ganacho in a villa shirt considering we live in the midlands around a lot of villa fans he was like he's betrayed us it's like he doesn't know it's like he doesn't know we like him and i was like absolutely spot on well done for an eight-year-old you you will be getting pocket money doubled from now um and i thought you know what it's not a youth thing is it it's not a youth thing that it's acceptable you know an eight-year-old who supports man united and sees a player he likes in a Villa shirt instantly says he's betrayed us it's like he doesn't know that we like him because Seb likes Ganacho it's one of his favorite players I like Ganacho not in the same way that Seb does he's a kid you know they idolize these players and you could see I mean he wasn't crying or anything like that but he was like he was shocked and stunned and it was basically what he was saying is you shouldn't be doing that and what's he doing to all those fans that support him at Man United.

9:45It's like we don't exist. And that's the petulance and stupidity of a 20-year-old who has been given too much too soon. He's basically gone up yours to all the kids and everybody that supports him. So, you know, going back to Man United wanting 70 million for him, people who don't support Manchester United and run other football clubs aren't stupid. They know exactly what the reaction to Ganacho is from Man United's fan base, and they will be sat there with Man United when they want£70 million and say, are you having a laugh? Your fan base doesn't like him anymore. You can't keep him. He'll get booed.

10:23He spoke about your manager straight after the final and basically mugged him off. And your manager has told him he will never play for Man United again and good luck finding a team. And you think we're paying£70 million knowing all that. We'll give you 35. And if United sit there and go, we're not taking 35, they'll be taking 35 at the end of August. And that's the point, isn't it? You can dig your heels in about your 60, 70 million pounds you want for Ganacho, but you will be taking 35 on the last day of the transfer window in August because nobody's going to give you what you want. So unless you can start a bidding war, which is very unlikely, you are going to end up taking the cheap fee now.

11:09And that, I think, is why I see so many people this morning saying, who is it doing our negotiations? Because Sir Jim and the Glazers might be OK and Amrim might be the chosen one. But yet again, it's the names of the people we don't know. Remember the guy who said that he slept at Carrington to get the Antony deal done and worked on it seven days a week and was sleeping at Carrington? mate it was a shit deal just because you did you spent seven days sleeping at Carrington and you know working 24 hours a day it was a shit deal why would you tell people that story the better story would have been um my finger slipped on the zero I meant to offer eight million you know I was working on it for ages and and this is the problem that I think we have when we talk about delay maybe the Mbermo deal is going to go on maybe it's not maybe it's going to take six weeks maybe it's going to take three I think Mbermo will be in for me it's just about whether he's in for the first day of pre-season that's really important Mbermo plays in a system that we don't play Mbermo plays as a winger in a 4-3-3 we don't play 4-3-3 he's going to be a number 10 or a white right wing back he needs to be in for pre-season you can't save yourself a couple of million and get him in for the US tour he needs to be there from day one because he's going to be asked to do a job he doesn't know.

12:27So we need to get that done quickly. With Ganacho, selling him allows us to buy a striker. We need that striker in for the first day of pre-season. If we don't sell Ganacho, we might not get the striker in. Who needs pre-season? So I ask the question again. It's not necessarily Sir Jim Radcliffe. It's not necessarily Barada. It's not necessarily Amirim. It's the person negotiating. Who are these people who negotiate our deals? Because they're crap. They're really crap. you get the sense they've walked into the boardroom and gone, we ain't taking less than 70 million. And everyone goes, yeah, this guy, where did we get him from?

13:03Cycling? A bank? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he'll come in on August 31st and say, we got close, but it's 35 million or nothing. And we've wasted two months and we haven't got a striker in yet. And that is what's worrying me. I think there's a balancing act now between we will get business done. When will it get done? and we've seen year after year after year that we suffer because we don't get deals done quick enough and all I'm seeing at the moment and this morning is delay I mean I think some people would wake up this morning and go we want 70 million pounds for Ganacho we mean business I think the majority would wake up and go oh my god we're going to be Ganacho's going to be on the tour Ganacho's going to be walking into Carrington and he is he absolutely is because if we're asking for 70 million pounds we're not going to get it and if we don't lower that expectation he's going on tour and if ganacho's going on tour i'm sorry that's a toxic tour they can all smile in front of the camera but that's a toxic tour that's not what amrin wants he doesn't like him they don't like each other so we're bad at selling the solution is this at other football clubs they don't obsess about money they obsess about being good on the football pitch and they'd look at it and go there's no way that player can come back to pre-season so we need to get rid of him and cut our losses but at united every penny counts every penny counts like we couldn't pay 40 000 pounds to a charity that's how much every penny counts so you're talking the difference between 35 million and 45 million and 50 million.

14:43We're going to negotiate the death out of this. And it's a mistake. Joseph says the lit has to go. High wages for his availability. That's the most random thing I didn't think we'd be talking about today. And don't worry, we won't be talking about it. But Joseph said it. Talk about it in the chat. Shout out to Oli Madden. First super chat. Number one fan says Al Madden. Shout out Oli. Hope you're doing well. Good morning, everybody who's watching live. Get your comments in. If you're not. If United had a good season and Ganacho was hugging Amrim, he would go for 80 to 90 million. United are the Murphy's law of transfers as lazy.

15:16Look, I think there is a contradiction. I will say this, then I'll go back to what Laurie Whitwell said about Rashford because it's very interesting. But there is a walking contradiction of Manchester United, right? You've got Ruben Amrim, who is acting in a way like Sir Alex Ferguson. Get out of my club. You've got the wrong attitude. publicly get out of my club to Rashford and Ganacho. But then you've got a club that wants to get top value. When you've got a manager that's going to publicly say, get out of my club, you need a club that's going to say, get out of our club, just go. We'll take what we can get.

15:53But when you've got a manager that's going, get out of my club, and then you've got a club that's going, we still want to get the best money, that doesn't work. So if you've got a manager that's pissed off with players, but publicly says, they're great, they're brilliant, they're so good, I love them, and then you try and sell them, you might get good value. But this doesn't work, there's hypocrisy. Manager saying, get out of my club publicly, and then club trying to get top dollar. They're not working. They're not working collectively. Amrim and the club don't work at the moment. The club needs to get with Amrim and be like, you're right, get rid of them.

16:28All right, we're going to lose a bit of money, but get rid of them. And that, what do we need? Do we need to try and raise money for players? Or do we need some tough decisions? We need some tough decisions. My prediction, Garnaccio will be sold in July. Rashford, Sancho and Anthony will be sold or loaned in August. I've seen this before, says Nicholas. But the problem is, Nicholas, is that if we're doing sell to buy, we won't get players in for pre-season like a striker. Ubi says, this isn't therapy anymore. Or can we get rid of...

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18:53mate i don't even know what your comment means there blocked my goodness on time bridge says trader mate okay we'll carry on with the show i'm live at 10 o 'clock every morning i'm not late on a 10 o 'clock show i've no i'm not late ganache evaluation is probably due to what we paid for and are paying for embermo differences the club and player have done everything to devalue him again it's just bad miss i think this is a great point from patrick actually we're probably looking at Kunja and Mbemo and saying, well, if they're going for£60 million, we want£60 million for Ganaccio. The big difference is Mbemo and Kunja are 25 performing in the Premier League in inferior teams to Manchester United, with all due respect.

19:35Ganaccio is 20 years of age and has had a shit season. End of the day. Hoyland missed the last two pre-seasons with the addition of Mbemo and Kunja. I genuinely believe he will smash it next season, says Gustav. Signed Kudas for 80 million and Sancho in exchange, says GP. Mark would agree that the reasons United are slow is because poor recruitment necessary, not necessarily in the US's fault at the moment, says James. Thank you very much for that. Well, this is what Laurie Whitwell had to say about the Marcus Rashford situation. And again, more delay. This is going exactly... Look, we can moan, but we can't be surprised because many of us predicted this one.

20:16Rashford believes Barcelona's interest in Nico Williams doesn't rule out a move for him because he's talked up the prospect of playing as a number nine. Talks about a deal have occurred, but his future may not be decided until later. Currently, United is only considering a sale, although a loan agreement could happen closer to the deadline. I mean, again, I just sort of say, who are these people at Manchester United negotiating deals? You're not going to sell Marcus Rashford. It's a loan deal. So basically what you're going to do is you're going to sit there with a begging bowl for two months going will somebody buy Rashford no and then at the end of August he will go on loan and you will pay half his wages so you may as well get on with it now because what's going to happen is for the next two months Ruben Amrim is going to go through the shitter because he's basically going to be in America in pre-season being asked every three days about Marcus Rashford and having to lie about he's come back with a great attitude he's a Manchester United player whilst he's a Manchester United player I'll always consider him yes he's going to get some minutes on the tour he's still a Man United player and behind the scenes it will be I ain't fucking using this player when the season starts when's he going to go and the board will be going we're still trying to sell him Ruben but the chances are we might end up loaning him we're going to loan him loan him now let him go on loan now He can have a pre-season.

21:41He can get to the World Cup and he'll be worth more money next summer. We're actually damaging ourselves again. And I just wonder if we've got spiteful people at the football club. I really do think whether we've got thick or spiteful people at the football club, because it is thick to wait until the end of August to loan Rashford out when that's all that's ever going to happen. And it's spiteful. Maybe we think, oh, let's keep him here and not use him and this, that and the other. But it's stupid. The better he plays on loan, the more value we get. And he's just too expensive at the moment. But in a year's time, his contract will have come down a little bit.

22:18Maybe he plays really well for Barcelona. It's just, I look at Ganacho and Rashford and I know the situation and I'm not a sporting director. And all of you will know as well. We're not getting 70 or 60 or 50 for Ganacho. We'll do well to get 40. We're not getting a fee for Rashford. He's always going to go on loan. So why wait till the end of August and mess up your transfer window where you could be getting a striker in? Just do it now. Liverpool would just do it now. Man City would just do it now. Take the£35 million for Gnaccio. Take the loan for Rashford. They don't come back for pre-season and Amrim doesn't have to listen to all the bullshit about are they going to play for Man United.

23:00It's like a broken record. We had this last summer with Ten Hag and Sancho. And then you get the people in the fan base who are player FC going, right, Sancho's going to cook. I hope Sancho's going to start in LA. And it's like, we're meant to be turning a page. It's meant to be the start of a new era for Manchester United. And it's just going to delay. OK, we've got a bit of breaking news here from Fabrizio Romano. Joca Rez has already personally informed Sporting about his decision to leave. No intention to play for the club anymore. He wants a new chapter and he feels heartbroken after exit pact and not expected to return to training at all.

23:40So basically, Jochores is now on strike at Sporting. You can sort of see a story developing here, can't you? Man United are going to mess up Ganacho and Rashford for two months. Sporting are going to mess up Jochores for two months. And then right at the end of the window, we're going to get Jokeres and Ganacho and Rashford are going to leave. And Ganacho and Rashford won't get a preseason. Jokeres won't get a preseason and we'll have probably lost two of our first three games. It's just it's chaotic, isn't it? It's chaotic and it just shows you that it goes on at other football clubs as well.

24:22But yeah, first super chat to Darren. Well done on the 2.1 million. What's your thoughts on the Villa shirt post? I think it's taking the piss and get rid. Yeah. Yeah, I don't understand why people think it's okay for that to happen. But get rid of him as soon as possible. I mean, I'd like to see him in a Villa shirt properly. Preseason training, it would be great. But I think, sadly, the one thing I want to change the most is what Liverpool are doing. I love what Liverpool are doing. They're selling players in June. They're buying players in June. Arna Slott's going to have a really good preseason because he's going to have all his players in place.

25:02And we're going to be chaotic again. And the US Tour is going to be a promotional tour instead of preseason. Like, we're going to be there with players that aren't part of our future. I mean, what's the point in being on the US Tour, playing Anthony, Ganacho, Rashford, Sancho? What's the bloody point? Oh, Rashford's playing as a striker. Maybe he can be the striker. I mean, come on. If we're seriously doing that, then I really, really worry. Rashford is deluded thinking Barcelona won Simpsons Dale. I think they probably do. I think they probably do. If I'm Barcelona, I'm probably thinking at the end of August, I'm going to get Marcus Rashford on loan for 150 grand a week.

25:41For a season. I get Marcus Rashford for 150 grand a week and I don't even need to pay a transfer fee. That's what's going to happen. because what will happen is it will get to August the 31st United will be playing Billy Big Bollocks saying you're not going anywhere you're not going anywhere and then about 1 o 'clock on the transfer deadline day United will realise we're paying Rashford 300 grand a week and Amorim doesn't want him and then the business side will kick in and go well we've got to let him go because it's still 150 grand a week saved so we're going to basically play like you know we're gonna play hardball but everybody knows we're weak and we will be weak because we can't keep Rashford unless he's gonna play for the first team we can't keep him and Amrim and him have fallen out so and look we shouldn't be keeping Rashford anyway we should be moving on um I'm sorry but for for us to sell players we're counting on other clubs being as stupid as we have been in the transport market for years is double d could you give al padrino a happy birthday marks as robber was united happy birthday uh do you think uh rashford will end up becoming our striker next season says sanska i really hope not it would make me want to throw up really i think too much i think you know what football is changing all the time that there's no to ways about it.

27:08We're losing what football probably was to many of us when we were growing up. Day by day, it's becoming eroded more and more. Some people think it's okay for Ganacho to walk around in a villa shirt, for example. But if we end up with Marcus Rashford playing up front for Man United again, we may as well change our name from Man United to EastEnders because it's like the bad guy becoming the good guy again, isn't it? And it's like, what is football? Like, he should move on. We should move on. We shouldn't be going backwards. And if he ends up coming back and maybe he'd do well for a couple of months, it just, it's hard to, it's hard to believe in something when it doesn't believe in itself.

27:52Amorim got Rashford out. Rashford wanted to go. If they're back together in August, It's like watching your mate get back with somebody that they're not compatible and they both don't really like each other, but they just keep getting back together. You know, it gets to a point where you just go, this is just wasting everybody's time. Everybody needs to move on and you're delaying the inevitable. We need to move on. But I wouldn't put it past the club to try and sell this again. They did it with Sancho last year. I hope you're all right from hurling last night. It looked worse when you were ill from eating battered food two summers ago, says Sandeep.

28:27What's your keeper opinion? I think Mbemo will come. Oh, reflex. Mbemo will come. Mbemo will come. It's just went. Hoyland missed. I've done that one as well. There we go. Does Jokeres need pre-season? He's an Amerim player. Lucas, everybody needs a pre-season. It's about fitness and sharpness as well. Obviously, I think what you're talking about is the system. Yeah, yeah. You could say that Jokeres knows the system, so he should be able to slot into it quite simply. and I think that's a very intelligent point. But pre-season is also massively about... It's like when you've been injured for three months and you're fit.

29:05You can't go straight back into the team because you need to get up to speed. It takes a few games. So yeah, you're right. There is the pre-season element that's essential to Amrim to teach players his system. But there's also the pre-season element on fitness and sharpness that has to be fundamental to that as well. Orko, welcome to Members Club. Appreciate that. Matt Garfield's in the house. He says, do you think any of the players regret their actions? Realistically, what strike do you think we'll get? I can't answer that question, Garfield, as to what striker we'll get at the moment because there's not really any update on a striker.

29:46I think we're being led by Arsenal, aren't we? But we will get a striker. I mean, it's funny. I think, I mean, look, I will actually read. This was also in the same article about Ganacho them wanting£70 million. There are people connected to the club who believe a new striker is still essential, even if Mbimo follows Cunha into Old Trafford. Well, I mean, that's just common sense. It's common sense, but it's essential that we do get a striker. We absolutely must get a striker as well. I mean, again, I mean, look, I don't think it's Laurie Whitwell's fault in The Athletic, But whoever's briefed him sounds like a complete and utter prat.

30:25£70 million for Ganacho. A loan deal for Rashford at the end of the window. And we think we still need a striker. I mean, who's briefing that? It's terrible.

30:41One other update from that that I think you might find interesting, and it sort of fits in with Casemiro. Now, Ben Jacobs has got good links with Saudi, so we'll ask him at midday. We're live at midday with Ben Jacobs about this Casemiro story because I'm not 100 % sure that that story is completely true. But this is what's been said in the article that Laurie Whitwell wrote. Ruben Amrim also wants an athletic midfielder. Well, this has been known for quite a while. We haven't had anything out of the club for about a month now because there's nobody in the club. They're all away on holiday and stuff.

31:17But I did a video about a month ago and it was good information that Amrim wants a midfielder. It's essential to his team. It's right in the middle of the team. It's in the core and he wants a midfielder. So I would believe he wants an athletic midfielder in there. But he has to remove somebody to bring somebody in. And I think in that update, it was when we said, don't be surprised if Collier goes, even on a loan. But if we're going to get a midfielder, Casemiro or Manu has to go. Now you've got a few morons on social media trying to ridicule that story and yet here we are, it's true. Because we have five midfielders, as we know, and we're not in Europe.

31:59So Man Utd cannot and will not pay for another midfielder when we've already got five and we're only playing domestic football. So Amram does want a midfielder, but if he's going to get a midfielder, he's got to remove one. Well it ain't going to be Bruno because Bruno's staying. It ain't going to be Agathe. So that leaves you Collier, Casemiro and Maynou. You can't remove Collier and bring in a new midfielder because then you've got five decent midfielders. So it's Casemiro or Maynou. The club want to get rid of Casemiro. So if Casemiro goes, I think we will move for a midfielder. The exciting thing would be who would that midfielder be?

32:38But I agree with that, that Amorim certainly wants a midfielder. Does Amarim's constant faith in using Mount worry you? Seems akin to Ten Hag's faith in using Rashford Sandy, I would love to get more into that Type of conversation And hopefully we can do as soon as the pre-season starts Because I think we've got Leeds West Ham, Everton, Bournemouth, Fiorentina So we've got five pre-season games And in those pre-season games we will be seeing the 3-4-3 system and it'll be interesting to see what players he utilises. And I'm sure Mason Mount will be one of those players if he's not injured. But now is not the time to scrutinise Ruben Amarim because Ruben Amarim is not responsible for signing and selling players.

33:29There's people employed to do that. But the Bruno thing is a big reputational risk. Like we could have took£100 million for Bruno. Bruno would have gone if we'd said go. we said please stay and that was led by Amorim quite rightly he's allowed to say what he wants he picked Mason Mount in the Europa League final he was shit and he likes Mason Mount and he's not really had a good couple of years so you're right to highlight the fact that managers sometimes have weird tendencies but as long as he gets judged on those in the sense that he's given the players that he wants then if it doesn't work then people will say he wasn't the right guy but we've got to give him the tools to be successful and it's very very clear that last season he didn't have those tools um javier says we must loosen our allegiances to players and align ourselves with digging our club out of the doldrums thank you very much for that do you thank you very much as well garfield A couple of other bits I just wanted to bring in this morning as well.

34:33So. Sorry, somebody just said in the chat that do you think Casemiro is going to Saudi? All we have on the Casemiro story from anybody of any. Well, all we have on the Casemiro story is a Saudi source saying that Al Nazeer want him. I think it'll be very interesting to sort of try and determine what Casemiro wants. Man United will always want to remove Casemiro, but if he doesn't want to go, then he won't go. Someone just said Jadon Sancho.

35:12Jadon Sancho has accepted. OK, this is a story about Sancho accepting to go to Benabache. unfortunately the source is Turkish at Sabah Spor if anyone knows what that's all about Jadon Sancho has accepted Fenerbahce's salary offer of approximately 10 million euros Fenerbahce will begin negotiations with Manchester United the transfer is expected to conclude positively this summer alone we had learnt that Turkish sources cannot be trusted. I mean, I think already off the top of my head, Osman's been signing for us. We were selling somebody else to Turkey as well. Yeah, you just can't, you can't, you just can't take that as anything, I'm afraid.

36:07Rashford, Ganacho, delusions of grandeur sucked in by hangers-on. Are United trying to save more money by not paying new player wages until later in the summer. So WGFVH. I would never put it past Man United to be waiting on signing players because of not wanting to pay wages. But the flip side of that coin is we're paying Ganaccio 100 grand a week. We're paying Sancho 250 grand a week. We're paying Rashford 250 grand a week. They're getting paid right now by us.

36:43so it sort of doesn't make sense uh although what i would say is um they probably don't want to buy a striker until they've removed some players because they don't want to pay wages of all of them um lewis says it's my birthday today happy birthday lewis hopefully we can get a here we go on um burmo today as a birthday present hope you and the family doing well uh lewis i hope you're right. I'm certainly not going to sit here and say it's impossible that we get a here we go. It feels like it's close. The problem is we don't know how close because Brentford might not be happy with the terms of the agreement and it still could take a while.

37:21Mount fits perfectly. Amarim's system is just struggling with fitness and confidence next season is his last chance, says Miguel. He does, well, look, he potentially does suit the system, but why have we just bought two number 10s um so yeah i i would agree with that but how come you and everyone uh else

37:46torbin says how come you and everyone else know so little about who the people negotiating for man united are are they undercover um i'm sure we could find out who they are um they just don't get mentioned very often um i'm sure somebody in the chat knows who our negotiators are um it used to be matt hargreaves didn't it but i think he left um it's not that difficult to find the names but yeah they're not very good at their job torb and i think that's uh that's very uh that's very very obvious um no doubts about that um another report that's look look these sort of reports do belong on the back end of the show.

38:27So Ebola, which is a Portuguese outlet, are saying that Manchester United are very interested in Costa of Porto, who wants to leave Porto. This is the goalkeeper that Amrim wants, by the way. Amrim does want Costa over Martinez. 75 million release clause, but could leave for 60 million. Even if Porto were to grant that discount, it looks way too much for United this summer. Absolutely. I mean, to be honest, that's not a terrible report from Portugal at all. The interesting thing about Costa, though, is that I'm sure Man City were looking at Costa and were quoted 35 million, which is 45 million euros.

39:06In fact, it's a little bit less than that. So I don't actually understand that one as much as I... But look, Amrim wants him.

39:21but it's a difficult one to do because of money. Ultimately, Inanna's not walking around in a Villa top, is he? He's walking around in a Man United top. That's a different problem. I think we'd like to see Inanna walking around in a Villa top but he's determined to wear a Man United top. So whilst Inanna refuses to leave, we can't sign a goalkeeper. and unless that changes, we're sort of stuck. Get your questions in. A bit of a summary of the show so far. Mbamo is just now about installments and negotiations about how we pay the 60 million. That could take an hour. It could take four weeks. We'll have to wait and see.

40:06No end in sight definitively yet. Gnaccio, Man United wants 70 million pounds for a player that's walking around in a Villa shirt and we've told to leave publicly, but we think we can get more than he's worth. More delay there, I imagine. It's just going to go on and on. Rashford, we want money for, but except we might have to loan him at the end of the window. More delay. These players are going to be going on tour as well, which is going to be a bloody nightmare. What else? Casemiro, Saudi. We've got Ben Jacobs on at midday, so we'll be able to get the definitive on that. Don't miss that live.

40:38It'll be very interesting. I don't blame Amrim, Nacho, Sancho or Rashford. we do not have time or cash for rebuild we are running on hope and look blazes out says keel no look i actually think keel's right you know if i i actually i wouldn't say i'm sympathetic to to the modern footballer anyway because they're mercenaries they're about money they're about their brand they're about themselves they're not fans of any football club really but ganacho will want to play in the world cup for argentina marcus rashford's going to want to play in the world cup for England and Anthony's going to want to play in the World Cup for Brazil and none of them I don't think are in the squad I think Anthony did get in the Brazil squad didn't he recently but obviously Rashford was injured and Ganacho didn't make it if they want to be in those squads they need to be playing football for the start of the season and therefore they need a pre-season we're not going to grant them that

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43:23Now, I think the way Rashford runs himself, we saw it in January he will probably go it doesn't matter if I don't go and play for Barcelona till the end of August because Tuchel will still pick me anyway because I'll be playing for Barcelona so maybe Rashford's not that bothered about a pre-season and the World Cup because he thinks he'll be going anyway but realistically those players need to be in place at the team they want to play for for pre-season and and we're gonna play a part in that not happening as much as they are. After we got three with Ten Hag, we really wasted 180 million in the summer.

44:00This was the point where we are now. We never kicked on after this, says Tony Martial. Mark, what would you prefer? Miss out on a new striker but can sign a goalkeeper or sign a competent striker but endure an honor mistakes again? Henry, I appreciate the super chat and I appreciate the either or and I will answer it. But the danger with answering this is that it's a get out of jail card for Manchester United Football Club because we shouldn't be picking. I saw a fantastic, actually we were meant to talk about this yesterday and I can summarise this ridiculously quickly. There are people in our fan base who constantly try to twist and turn and make out that Manchester United are competitive and that we spend a lot of money.

44:50Remember that Manchester United have been shit for a decade, right? When you look at Premier League transfer spend, we're third. We're third. And I'm trying to figure out, this was from Swedish Rumble, and what he's basically saying is United have spent a lot of money, you can't deny that, but not even remotely as much as Chelsea and City. This is a fact. You're looking at a very twisted numbers if you think otherwise, which is not surprising since the BBC, Sky and co always post data extremely distorted against United. Our total transfer spend during the Premier League era, including our high spending early days, is massively, it puts us in third, massively below Chelsea and Manchester City.

45:39So you're trying to buy success by spending the third most how is that going to work look in La Liga Real Atletico Madrid Atletico Madrid spend a lot of money but they don't spend anywhere near what Barcelona and Real Madrid spend and therefore they're the third best team so we do spend money but we're coming from behind pardon the pun we're coming from behind so it's a very good point about United they will project that we spend money oh oh, we spent 300 million last year. We spent money last year. But we are so far behind and we're still spending less than Chelsea and we're still spending less than Manchester City.

46:21And it's a good point. United constantly put it out there that they're spending money, but we don't spend as much as Chelsea and Man City, who've had a lot more success than us over the last 10 years and have spent it better as well and quicker and more efficient. So when you say to me, Henry, would I rather have a goalkeeper or a striker? I think that symbolises exactly what I'm saying because that's the sort of thing the club do. You should get both. If you want to be the best and you wonder why, you know, you get Sir Jim Radcliffe saying, at the end of the day, you know, we want Man United to be, you know, the best team in England.

47:00Well, behave like the best team in England then. If you want to be the best team in England, Chelsea and Man City are already better than you and they're spending better than you. and Liverpool are now and Arsenal are now. In recent years, Arsenal and Liverpool are spending more than we are. So, at the end of the day, we want to be the best team in England. Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool are spending better than us and we're miles behind them. How does that work? How do you become the best team in England when you're miles behind four other teams who are spending better than you? And this is how they do it because they go, So, well, at the end of the day, it was a goalkeeper or a striker.

47:40And we ran a poll. And, you know, I agree, the fans wanted a striker. So maybe next year we'll get a goalkeeper. Well, you're never going to catch up. You get the goalkeeper, you get the striker, and you get the midfielder. And this is why we're failing at the moment. We're slow, and we're not doing the deals that need to be done. Will we get a goalkeeper and a striker? We need... we should be demanding it. It shouldn't be an either or. We should be demanding it. We've just had a horrific season. We're not in Europe at all. We need a striker and a midfielder. Now, Doctor says Qatar in. The thing is, if you've got rich owners, they would be saying, fuck Ganacho off the 35 million and get Rashford out on loan.

48:24I don't want those two players turning up at Carrington going on the tour. They're a bad representation of what I want this football club to be. They don't represent it. They're not good people to having this football club, get them the fuck out now. But we've got mercenaries in charge who don't think about morals and attitude. They think about money and they go, no, don't let Gidaccio go for cheap and don't let Rashford go. Keep them. I don't care if they go on the tour. I'm not bothered about that. In fact, they've got a bit of a player FC fan base. They might sell some shirts. This is the problem.

48:57This is the problem. Thank you very much to Henry C. It was a good comment. Thank you very much to Torben as well. Derek says, happy with the£70 million Asken price. We need to learn how to sell. Look at Jokeres in open conflict with legal implications and Sporting will get£10 million more. Thank you very much for that as well. OK, we are back at... Lee Berman says, do you think the Mbermo second bid was just spin after the Ganacho news? Well, I'm not going to criticise the club on that. The Ganacho story was big. and negative and took the piss out of the football club. You either front up and say something about it and United's official line is no comment or you put out something there that's positive and the Mbermo stuff is positive, isn't it?

49:49But in summary, I think there's a lot to be worried about in that brief this morning. We're going to get a striker when, we're going to get a midfielder when, we're going to sell Rashford when, we're going to sell Ganacho when and it shouldn't be about when. You know when we were losing last season, all those games every week? Every week we're losing games. What was the line coming out of the club? It's been a difficult season. It's a challenge for Ruben, but we're preparing for next season and everything's in place. It's not. We're ready for next season. We're preparing next season. We're going to get a pre-season, get players in and we're ready to go.

50:28And we're not. We'll be lied to all the time. getting beat every week last week, last season. Oh, we're preparing for next season. We've learned so much. We're going to suffer to be better. And we're still suffering. Like, where are the players? Where are the sales? Pre-season's virtually here. This major pre-season that Amrin wants is not going to be delivered in the way he needs to at the moment. And we need to change that. I can't believe that people in the club don't realise that. Thanks everyone for watching. Make sure you smash a like. Do not miss the show live at midday. Ben Jacobs on the show.

51:03It's going to be for some very interesting updates. Thank you very much for that. What do you think about Johnny Evans staying? Kumsie Kumsar, Farhan. I mean, I like Johnny Evans. Is he not going to help new players settle in or something like that? I mean, look, do you need somebody to do that? I mean, we've just sacked half our workforce and now we're keeping somebody to settle in new players. But I like Johnny Evans. I think he's a good player to have around the club. he's been a brilliant player to have in the dressing room for the last two years you want to keep people like that at the football club in some way shape or form maybe he can do his badges or something like that I don't know um okay live at midday don't miss it speak to you in a bit take care

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