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25 Jun 2025 · 54m · 20 chapters

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110: Amorim WANTS Rashford OUT! Mbeumo DEAL DAY!

In short

Manchester United transfer window chaos, focused on whether to loan Marcus Rashford to Barcelona immediately versus waiting until late August; also updates on Ivan Toney? (no), specifically Amad? (no). The host argues United are slow at business, won’t have a striker for pre-season/early season, and that “selling to buy” is being mishandled. He also discusses potential deals for Jean-Ricner? (no) and midfield/forward targets.

Guests

No guests are identified in the transcript; it’s presented as a solo host with listener polls and comments.

Key claims

  • Ruben Amorim wants Rashford out of Carrington; Rashford only wants Barcelona.
  • United value Rashford at about £40m, but Barcelona would loan him with Barcelona paying full wages (~£325k/week) and United demanding a loan fee.
  • Host says loaning now avoids toxicity, media questions, and preserves preseason focus.
  • United are negotiating too many exits at once (Rashford, Anthony, Sancho, Malacia, Ganacho), lacking staff, slowing striker/goalkeeper recruitment.
  • Mbemo deal: “terms matched” per The Times; delay likely due to installment negotiations with Brentford and registration/payment timing around July 1.
  • No plan to replace Ericsson with a new midfielder; any midfielder signing depends on selling someone else.

Notable examples

  • Comparisons to Man City and Liverpool buying early (Rodri, Haaland; Liverpool’s early signings) versus United’s repeated late business.
  • Discussion of Xerxes (Zirkzee) not being a true striker for United’s needs.
  • Anthony: Athletic says he’s closest to an exit, but Betis can’t afford him, complicating a straightforward sale.
  • Sancho: Juventus reportedly pursuing, but wages/loan-option structure is criticized as illogical.

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Chapters

1:08

Marcus Rashford Transfer Updates

Discussion about Marcus Rashford's potential loan to Barcelona and Manchester United's stance.

“You walk in from the cold and every room already feels like fall.”
1:28

Marcus Rashford Transfer Updates

Discussion about Marcus Rashford's potential loan to Barcelona and Manchester United's stance.

“Also updates on Anthony, on Malassia, on Jadon Sancho and on the midfield as well.”
4:25

The Manager's Perspective

Analyzing the manager's desire to move Rashford and implications for the team.

“We're going to wait two months and try and sell him.”
7:20

Transfer Window Concerns

Addressing the inefficiency of Manchester United in the transfer market and its impact.

“So you talk about negativity, you talk about patience, you talk about positivity.”
9:08

Moving Forward with Rashford

Debate on the urgency of moving Rashford and the consequences of waiting.

“Ruben, what do you want to do with Rashford?”
14:01

Debating Rashford's Future

A discussion on whether to keep or sell Marcus Rashford amidst concerns of player power and financial implications.

“Waiting too long for a sale lowers his value.”
16:47

Pre-season Preparations and Club Control

Exploration of the necessity for pre-season preparations and the control Manchester United has over player situations.

“I don't think we've got any power in this situation.”
19:35

Financial Realities of Transfers

Discussion on the financial challenges faced by Manchester United regarding player sales and wages.

“Would you take Patrick Schick from Leverkusen?”
24:31

Updates on Mbeumo Transfer Situation

Latest news and analysis on Mbeumo's potential transfer to Manchester United and the implications of financial year timing.

“Pacific Life Insurance Company, Omaha, Nebraska, and in New York.”
28:00

Financial Year Registration and Transfer Negotiations

Discusses the timing of player registrations and the complexities of negotiations between Brentford and Manchester United regarding Mbermo.

“but not pay for any of them until the next financial year because it's about when you officially register them and when you pay the first payment.”
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30:30

Rashford's Future and Club's Negotiation Strategy

Explores the potential loan of Rashford to Barcelona and the inefficiencies of Manchester United's negotiation processes.

“Yeah, I mean, the trouble with that, Alpha, is, again, you're negotiating.”
33:25

Challenges in Selling Players and Squad Depth

Analyzes the difficulties in selling players like Anthony and Malassia, and the impact on squad depth and future signings.

“He's got a lovely dribbling ability, but he is not a striker.”
36:10

Concerns Over Pre-Season Preparations and Future Signings

Highlights worries over pre-season preparations for the team and the urgency for signings to improve the squad.

“We could be trying to get a goalkeeper in.”
42:01

The Importance of Pre-Season Success

Learn about the critical role pre-season plays in a team's performance.

“to have players in for pre-season beyond Kunya and Mbemo.”
43:10

Rashford and Eriksen's Future at United

Discussion on the future of Rashford and Eriksen in Manchester United's squad.

“Dazzo says, you said at the start you can't win every battle when it comes to Rashford, but why do we have to lose every battle when it comes to player sales?”
45:57

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47:35

Speculations on Sancho and Rashford

Analyzing the ongoing rumors surrounding Sancho and Rashford's transfers.

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48:30

Man United Transfer Saga: Sancho and Rashford

The hosts vent about Manchester United's drawn-out negotiations over Rashford, Sancho, Antony and Garnacho, arguing the club should move players on quickly to free up wages and chase a goalkeeper and striker.

“What I've said is loaning Rashford now saves time on negotiating for two months.”
54:40

Frustrations with Current Negotiations

Insights into the frustrations over slow transfer negotiations for multiple players.

“just sat there chilling, thinking, if it takes till the end of August, it takes till the end of August.”
56:00

Concerns About the Summer Transfer Window

Discussion on the slow progress of player transfers and its implications for the team.

“Because sometimes it's not therapy, it's a conversation and you sometimes start a conversation and at the end of the conversation, you learn something you didn't know.”
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1:55is essentially done. So when will we get the drop on that? Is it likely today? Hopefully it will be. Also updates on Anthony, on Malassia, on Jadon Sancho and on the midfield as well. There's a bit of a myth going round about the midfield that we can buy a midfielder when we replace Ericsson. It doesn't make sense, but we'll delve into that a little bit more as well. A few other bits to get into as well and any questions you've got, but let's fly straight into it. We're going to talk about Marcus Rashford. Two major updates coming in this morning. First of all, we're going to start off with the Times who are saying that Barcelona are preparing a loan offer for Marcus Rashford even if they sign Nico Williams.

2:39Manchester United want a permanent move with the player valued at£40 million. Manchester United would demand a loan fee and Barcelona will have to bear the full salary of£325k a week if they loan him out. Sounds a little bit like you think you're in control, Manchester United there. I would love to see that loan deal happen. But also coming in from Ben Jacobs, Barcelona are considering a move, a loan move for Rashford. Rashford has got no future at Old Trafford under Ruben Amirim, but United want£40m. remains to be seen whether they will sanction a loan. And I think what we can gather here is, is do you do this deal now or do you wait until the end of the window?

3:24And I'm going to ask that question of you and we'll do a poll in a moment. But it's very, very clear. You've got a manager that doesn't want this player anywhere near Carrington in a week and a half's time. But you've got a club going, we love money. We love money. And that is never going to work. So I sit here and say, loan him out. It's not even about Rashford. It's not even about Amorim. It's just common sense in a football world. You're going to say no and then say yes in two months. And in that period of those two months where you've said no, he's going to go on loan. You're going to get asked questions about it every day.

4:06You might have to use him. Is he on the bench for the Arsenal game? All this stuff, basically January all over again. Why would you put yourself back in that position when you're going to be loaning him anyway? You're not selling him. He will not go anywhere else other than Barcelona. This is his dream. And they won't give us 40 million quid. Barcelona can't afford him. He won't go anywhere else. There isn't anywhere else. So why would you go? No, we're not going to do this now. We're going to wait two months and try and sell him. It's just so obvious. It's not ideal. It's not ideal, but it's player power and you can't win every battle.

4:45You can't. So I'm asking you now, would you Rashford, let's say Rashford loan now, wait till end of August? Get your thoughts in on that. But I think you've got to follow the manager, haven't you? You have to follow the manager. The manager, Ruben Amrim, clearly doesn't want Rashford there. I mean, it's not breaking news. It's law sports news. You know, we saw what happened in January. So Barcelona are in a position of power. Well, we're not sure whether we want him. We want Nico Williams. We will take him, but only on a loan deal to do you a favour. They're not there thinking about spending the money.

5:28You then got Man United going, yeah, we're not doing this unless you give us good money. And Barcelona are sort of like going, are you not listening? We're not giving you money. We'll take him from you on loan. We're not paying for him. And then you're not going, well, you can pay all his wages. No, but you're not listening. We're not doing that either. We'll take him off your hands to solve a problem for you. But we're not paying you good money for him. And that's where the problem happens. You've got Ruben Amrim going, I just want him out. I understand that you want money, but you're not going to get it.

5:58I just want him out. And then you've got Marcus Rashford. I only want to go to Barcelona. So all the ingredients add up to we pay half his wages to go to Barcelona. And anything better than that, I would say, is a great deal. But you don't wait till the end of August for that. If you're offering me Rashford on loan to Barcelona today, do it. Just do it, because then we don't get the entourage. We don't get the noise. We don't get the questions. We don't get the pretend that everyone's getting on well. Amrim doesn't have to be acting. Rashford doesn't have to act. We move forward as a football club.

6:33And I think fundamentally, I was looking at some of the comments after the show last night. It was a great show last night. I was looking at some of the comments. Vast majority, really, really good. A few people saying, you're negative. You're just so negative. That's fine. That's absolutely fine. But I'm not going to apologise for being concerned about this summer transfer window. And if you're happy about it, then I think that you reside in the world of not understanding summer transfer windows at Manchester United. We're not going to take a striker on the US tour. It's four weeks until the US tour.

7:06We take five or six weeks to do a deal. We're not even in talks with a striker. So already, we're not going to have a striker for the pre-season. We may well be taking Rashford, Anthony, Ganacho, Sancho on tour because we're not close to getting rid of them either. So you talk about negativity, you talk about patience, you talk about positivity. I've cleared the game. We've all cleared the game. We're not going to magic all of Amrim's signings in the next two weeks and all the sales in the next two weeks. It's not going to happen. This is Manchester United. We prioritise money over efficiency.

7:40The big mic drop here is that Liverpool and Man City, and to be fair, I don't want to talk about Man City. Pep Guardiola bought Rodri officially on the 4th of July or the 6th of July, before pre-season started. Erling Haaland, before pre-season started. All these deals that they've just done before pre-season starts. All the deals they did in January, preparing them for next season. Man City are the masters at getting players in early. Liverpool are doing it as well. Why do you think that is? Why do you think Liverpool and Man City want to get their players in before the start of pre-season? Could it be because it prepares you for the season better to have all your players working together weeks before the start of the season?

8:24And Man United continually mess this up. So I'm not going to apologise for being negative about something that has negatively impacted every season we've had for a decade. Anthony and Casemiro coming in after losses to Brentford and Brighton. Agathe, De Litt and Masraoui not ready for the start of the season last year. Year after year after year, we do something that is so simple. It is the most simple system to a successful season that we ignore because we've got bean counter accountants in charge. If you get your players in early, you'll have a better season. If you get your players in late, you'll have a bad season.

9:06And we continually do it. So I look at this Rashford situation and I go, if my manager is up against it, like Ruben Amirim is, And if my manager needs a very good preseason and a very good start to the season, then I'm going to get deals done as quick as he wants them to get done. Ruben, what do you want to do with Rashford? Just get rid of him. What, even a loan to Barcelona? Well, unless you can tell me someone's going to give us actual money for him, why wouldn't you just get the loan deal done now? Yeah, but we look a bit weak doing that. Why do we look weak? Well, we don't get any money for it.

9:40Are you going to get any money for him? Well, we might wait till the end of August and get some. Oh, who? Is Harry Potter going to turn up with Luke Skywalker and offers a 90 million quid? Because that's fantasy, mate. Both of them. Oh, you thought Harry Potter was real and you're running a football club? Get out. We need to get this deal. We need to get deals done quickly. What we need to do at this football club, right, is forget the name, forget the noise and look at the list of the jobs you've got to do. It's like waking up in the morning, having your breakfast and writing a list of jobs. I've got to get petrol for the car.

10:17I've got to go and do the shopping. I've got to cut the grass. You know, all those things, tick them off. I've got to sell Rashford. I've got to, I'm sorry, I've got to get rid of Rashford. I've got to get a Sancho. I've got to get rid of Anthony. I've got to get rid of Malassia. I've got to get rid of Ganacho. I've got to get a striker. Yeah, just work through the list efficiently and quickly. And we just can't do it. We just can't do it. So look, 68 % of you said that you would loan Rashford now. 32 % of you say you'll wait till the end of August. I'd love to understand the 32 % on why you're waiting till the end of August, because I can't see the positive.

10:59So I will list the negatives. If you wait till the end of August, Rashford's here for two months. If you wait till the end of August, He's there in the dressing room for two months. He's on the tour. He's on the pre-season. We're getting asked about him in every interview. Him and Amram don't get on. It's not moving forwards. It's moving backwards. I can't see the positive of waiting until the end of August. Whereas the positives of getting him out now, you don't get any of those negatives. He's never at Carrington. He's not on the tour. We're not being asked about him. He's at Barcelona, happy, having a pre-season, playing in a good team, hopefully playing well, goes to the World Cup.

11:36next summer, value, sell. The sooner you get him out where he wants to be, the bigger value you'll get next summer because he'll have a year left off his contract. And if he does well at Barcelona, they will want to keep him. What we need to forget, sorry, what we need to remember as a football club is we've got no divine right to say we deserve more money for Marcus Rashford or we deserve more money for Ganacho. we created the situation. We gave him a stupid contract. We gave him stupid wages. This has happened with Anthony. This has happened with many other players as well. If you give players stupid wages and they flop, you've got to cut your losses.

12:25You have to. And we haven't figured this out. We haven't figured this out because we still keep doing it. If you give players stupid wages and they don't perform, you're stuck. Simple as that. We need to firefight here. We need to do this deal quickly. It's in Rashford's interest. He will want to go to Barcelona soon. Barcelona will want him soon. We should just get on with that deal. Do I care if we pay half his wages? It's better than paying all of them. We're not going to get a transfer fee. This club is completely and utterly stupidly incompetent if they try and negotiate this for the next two months.

13:02Just get it done in the next two weeks. Show a bit of bloody intelligence. Get it done for the manager in the next two weeks. Never have him stepping back into Carrington. As Ben Jacobs said, as everybody knows, there is no future at Manchester United for Marcus Rashford. Move on. Move on as quick as you can. And I'd say the same about Ganacho. I'd say the same about Sancho. These are dramas you and I don't want. These are players that have gone in our heads. They're gone. Get them gone. ASAP. Rory C says Waiting doesn't mean he's involved with the first team We cannot continue to bow down to whims of players Take a stand, let him rot Set a precedent How does that work Rory?

13:44I appreciate it, how does that work? So you wait until the end of August Why? On pure spite We need to grow up As a football club We can't be spiteful, we need to grow up You keep him for the next two months You're paying him£300 ,000 a week for two months so that's one point two two and a half million pounds to be spiteful um he doesn't get a pre-season so he's rusty for the start of the season and it also prevents us bringing other players in because we're paying two and a half million pounds to Marcus Rashford I understand the point but what point is it oh stick Rashford in the reserves for two months to show him who's boss still goes at the end of the month it still goes at the end of August I was about get rid of him move on and start building out and focus on ourselves.

14:31We're not in a position of power. We're shit. Let him go and build us. Simple as that. Waiting too long for a sale lowers his value. Waiting for 40 million we are unlikely to get is wasting time that could be used on the other deal. Best for everyone to move him on. I think the problem is, Patrick, Man United have got delusions of grandeur. They think that 40 million pounds for Marcus Rashford is a bargain, but they don't realise that he's been bad for two years and he's on stupid wages. So people don't see it as a bargain. Giving Rashford what he wants, player power wins. Gaz, we're not going to stop player power from winning.

15:03I get your point, but we're not going to stop it from winning. It will win in the end. So just get rid. Don't that entourage other players do the same. Let him play with the kids until we get an offer we want. Again, we won't get that offer. Loaning him is pushing the issue down the line, says Jacob. We can't sell him, Jacob. I get a running theme here that people just don't like the idea of him going to Barcelona on loan because he wins, but he will win anyway. There is no win for us. He won't go to Saudi or anywhere that will give us any money. So we put ourselves in this position. If you're angry, be angry with the idiots who gave him the contract in the first place.

15:41Say a lonely, let him find a club or not play, but he won't, says Sam. Again, I think there's a lot of people sharing your opinion Sam but it's biting your nose off to spite your face we can't afford to just keep him at the club for two months we need to move on and it goes back to what I was saying before so we take Rashford on tour we have to have all the press conferences Amrim's meant to be having a pre-season to build a new team not take all the shit there so that we can be spiteful and wait until the end of August we need to move on do you think Rashford has a loan option is Barcelona's backup for Williams As Atletico want the release clause up front, not installments, says Phil.

16:21I don't know. I don't actually think Barcelona are going to move very quick on Rashford anyway, if I'm being honest. Amrim should publicly say Barcelona don't want Rashford, says Kiel. Morning, Mark. Tuto Sport reported today that Juventus will have a cordial call with the United board. Alden, I'm actually going to talk about Sancho, so I'll come back to that. I think United have a lot of control in this situation, says Rory. leverage the fact that Rashford departure to play and he's more desperate about the World Cup. I don't think we've got any power in this situation. I really don't, Rory. It's great.

16:53Look, and I suppose that's the brilliance of conversation, community and democracy. Some people think let's wait till the end of August. We've got the power. But then those same people are going to moan when we're not doing business. We need to, as I said last night, we need to sell to buy. So you're going to, you're going to make a football club that cuts 40 grand a year in charity payments, you think we can afford to pay two and a half million pounds in wages to Rashford to wait till the end of August. We cut 40 grand a year to a charity that deserves the money. And you think we'll be okay just paying two and a half million pounds in wages to somebody that's not part of our plans.

17:33Look, maybe I'm a realist. We need to sell to buy. Amram needs a pre-season. He needs his players in. we are absolutely shit we finished 15th and we're not in Europe and yet some people are saying no let him rot in the reserves wait till the end of August then do what we would do now he's going on loan to Barcelona whether we like it or not just get it done and move on all I'm interested in is a pre-season with the players that Amarim needs and as I said to you a few minutes ago Man City, Liverpool consistently get their players in early so that they're ready for pre-season so that they're ready for the start of the season.

18:11I look at Man United, we're debating Rashford again with no players in through the door and it's very obvious that Amram's not going to have players for pre-season and they're going to polish a turd and talk about optimism and we're going to hear very soon about how pre-season doesn't matter as well. It's mattered every bloody month that we've been having bad results since December to May. Guarantee you it's going to start coming out very soon that doesn't actually matter if you've got pre-season. Amorim will be asked about it in his very first press conference. Does it concern you that you haven't got all the players in?

18:46Well, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter that much because we've got till the end of August to do the window. They'll be spouting that shit again very, very soon. Sale only or reserves, not worth it for 150k in wages. He won't play at Barca. Andy, where is this sale coming from? I'm not going to drop this. So many comments, sale or keep him. he's on 300 grand a week. What world are you living in, Andy? Sale or he's not going anywhere. Who do you think you are? Manchester United are on their arse and we've got fans going, sale or put him in the reserves. We're fucking broke. And you want to pay 300 grand a week for somebody to sit in the reserves.

19:31I just can't understand it. I can't understand it at times. We need to move on. Would you take Patrick Schick from Leverkusen? Oh, it just gets worse, Maliki.

19:43It's not good enough. No, it's not good enough, to be honest with you. How does downing Rashford solve our problems, isn't it? Okay, we're descending into stupidity here. Club does have power. Rashford's last World Cup, says Keele. Mate, he got picked for the England... He got picked by Tuchel in March, having been ridiculed by Amarim in January. I don't think waiting till the end of August is going to damage Marcus Rashford's World Cup campaign. He's in Tuchel's plans no matter what. So if that's your card, that's not going to be enough. Rashford himself might want to be in Barcelona for a pre-season, but it won't be the end of the world if United don't let it happen.

20:30He's got all the power. Some of you just can't realise that. Andrea says haven't checked in for two weeks and the state of affairs is appalling and Bermos still not done no one sold pre-season without new goalkeeper this club makes me so embarrassed to be a supporter and Ilya says good morning Mark sorry if this is a silly question but has United completely lost interest in Nuno Mendes yeah we'll move on from that the club needs to I mean is that a genuine question or is that just I want to ask the stupidest question of the day Nuno Mendes the best left back in the world arguably still a target for Man United yeah Yeah, and after that, we're bringing in Vinicius Junior and Mo Salah.

21:08The club needs to sell to buy. Loan makes no sense, as Mr Armstrong. Can somebody start explaining to people why we can't sell Marcus Rashford? We need to sell to buy. Loan makes no sense. No one will buy him, mate. That's why we're talking about a loan. I'll tell you what, it's disappointing this morning how many of you do not actually understand the football club that you support. and I'm not being demeaning or anything like that. I don't know what you listen to that you think we're going to sell Marcus Rashford. £40 million for a player on£300 ,000 a week that nobody wants to buy. Barcelona would take him on loan as a favour and you're talking about selling him.

21:50Where's the sale coming from? Where is this magic sale? I understand you going, we need to sell him. We bloody do need to sell him completely. But if you can't have a sale, what are you waiting for? There are time limits here. There is pre-season. There is a US tour. If he's not sold by July the 7th, he's walking into Carrington. Is this a good thing for Manchester United? No. No. We can't. We can't. You know what? You're making me sympathetic to the board of Man United because some of you are talking like the board. Well, we can't let him go on loan. We need to sell him. Where's the voice of reason?

22:30Who are you selling him to? Who wants to buy him? Nobody. Nobody wants to buy him. Why don't they want to buy Marcus Rashford? Because he's on 300 grand a week. Nobody can afford 300 grand a week. The only clubs that can afford 300 grand a week are the best clubs in the world and they don't want him. So you loan him. Mark, shouldn't midfield and goalkeeper be higher than or at least as essential as a striker, says Rajaf? No. Stryker's the most important position, surely, I would say. Do you think we're broke until the 1st of July, is this Phil? I think we're broke full stop. I think we're broke full stop.

23:07We need to sell to buy. Simple as that. Talking about buys, let's move on because that Rashford story has absolutely depressed me, to be honest with you. So let's talk about... Um.

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25:13What a shit sauce is that? I wouldn't put that on my bloody... UTD exclusive. Sometimes the sauces you quote belong on a bloody bacon sandwich. That's just regurgitated from Romano last night as well. Why are you giving sauces off a bacon sandwich credit for a rehashed Romano story? If you're going to be an aggregator, please do the tier system. how many times have you noticed that as well have you noticed how certain journalists do it as well they wait two days and then they rehash a romano or an ornstein story incredible incredible anyway um we i want to talk to you just very briefly about uh in burmo there was a bit of a breaking story coming out this morning about him uh funnily enough utd exclusive missed it they missed it.

26:04It was on every other aggregator, to be fair, and it was from the Times. And it basically said that Manchester United have essentially agreed the terms. They've matched what they offered for Cunha, 62.5 million. So the terms of the deal are basically there and done for Mbermo. and that's the report from the Times that we've basically matched the Cunyar deal. So if we've done that, why haven't we got the deal done? When is it going to happen? Could today be the deal day for Mbermo? A lot of people are saying that, you know, if we've got the deal done. The honest answer is I don't actually know when this Mbermo deal is going to happen.

26:50Check when the away kit's coming out. That might be an indicator. Could it be July the 1st? what people need to remember is as well there's a lot of wrong analysis out there that Liverpool have done their business in June because they didn't spend last year so they've got a lot of money left in June not necessarily true just because we've got Kunya here we go in June doesn't mean we're not going to pay for it on July the 1st just because Liverpool have signed Virts and Frimpong and they're going to sign Kerkers doesn't mean that they're not going to register it after July the 1st. You can buy players in June in the sense of official, it's not official, here we go, but then the first payment doesn't happen till July and the registration doesn't happen till July.

27:37I think there's this confusion out there that, well, United can't do any business till July the 1st because of the new financial year. You can't. It's just, it's not about, you can have, here we go on Jochores, Kunja, Mbermo, Emi Martinez, Edison. He could buy seven players technically in June, but not pay for any of them until the next financial year because it's about when you officially register them and when you pay the first payment. I don't know. I don't think Kunja's going to get registered in this financial year. I think he's going to get registered in the next one. I'd be very surprised if he's getting registered in June.

28:18It will be in the next financial year because if we register him in June, I think we'd probably go over PSR. So that's just something that's really important. People think that people are like, on July the 1st, everything's going to go off like a bottle of pop. We could have done deals in June. We could have had here we goes in June. We could have had sales in June. You just pay for them in July. It's simple as that. So I don't know why people, some people are saying, well maybe we're going to wait till July the 1st for Mbermo. We might wait till July the 1st for Mbermo but it doesn't mean we couldn't have had a here we go two weeks ago.

28:56We still pay for him in July. I think the reason that Mbermo has not been done is because we're actually still negotiating. Brentford and Man United are not sat there going let's pretend that we're negotiating until July the 1st and then we'll do that. I think we genuinely are still negotiating with Brentford over the installments of the deal. And the interesting thing about Mbermo is it's three and a half weeks now since... Well, it's actually longer, but it's three and a half weeks. Actually, I've got to apologise. It's longer than three and a half weeks. I've been saying it's three and a half weeks since David Ornstein did that Monday night.

29:32He wants to join Man United, and that's true. But it's not actually three and a half weeks. It's about four and a half weeks, maybe even five weeks since we started being linked to Mbermo. We were talking about Mbamo before that David Ornstein thing. So Cunha was about the middle, late April definitely. Didn't get here we go until June. So we're talking about, again, minimum five, six weeks before we can get a deal done from the start. And we're not even talking to a striker at the moment. So, yeah, it's I don't I don't. What my point is, I don't think July the 1st is going to be the magic, you know, beans that everyone thinks it's going to be.

30:19I think we genuinely are working very, very slow on deals. Alpha says Rashford wants Barca and they'll only pay half. You can go for wages they pay and we won't cover the rest except reduce wage for a year and make dream moves as AlphaZoo. Yeah, I mean, the trouble with that, Alpha, is, again, you're negotiating. and I think some people are obviously very resolute that we shouldn't give Rashford what he wants but if we don't give him what he wants, we're negotiating and if we're negotiating, he's in the pre-season and if he's in the pre-season, it's toxic and that damages the club. So I don't want to negotiate on anything.

31:00Just get the loan deal done and get him out. It's better for Ameren. It's better for Man United. It's better for him. I don't want to negotiate And if we negotiate with Barcelona, by the way, if we sit there negotiating with Barcelona for two months, that's work we could be doing on something else. Man United are slow. Man United are crap at doing more than one deal at once. So if you want to spend two months negotiating with Barcelona on Rashford, that's going to take you away from signing players. That's going to take you away from selling players. It's not efficient. It's not what's best for the football club.

31:35It's too slow. If we don't sign a striker, would you play Xerxes there? Dylan, I respect, but why kick a man when he's down?

31:50It's like being promised lasagna for tea and then Mrs. Goldbridge saying, if you don't have lasagna tonight, do you fancy a slice of toast? I'm like, I want lasagna. I don't, I don't, I don't, why should I put up with shit? And Xerxes is not shit, but what I'm saying is, we need a bloody striker, we finished 15th in the league, I don't want Xerxes up front, no. I like him as a 10. I don't want Xerxes as the striker for Man United. No. That is not progress. That is papering the cracks. That is cheap. That is a shit choice. No. I don't want Xerxes and Rasmus as the striking options next year. I want a striker.

32:36I don't care whether it's Rasmus and a new striker and Xerxes or it's Rasmus gets sold and it's Xerxes and a new striker but I want a new striker at Man United I cannot put up with lol you know how it's like pre-season Pereira isn't it pre-season Perlo oh Xerxes scored a couple of goals against West Ham in the United States he's going to score 50 goals in the Premier League next year the thing I've learned about football over the years is pre-season is hype transfer windows are hype. Reality is what you learn week in, week out. And what we learned last year week in, week out is that Zerks is not a striker.

33:16He's not a striker that's going to lead the line at Man United. Not mobile enough, not clever enough in the six yard box. He's a link up player. He's got a lovely touch. He's got a lovely dribbling ability, but he is not a striker. And it's like saying, we're not even being negative to Zerksy here. I don't want to sell Zerksy. I want to keep him. I like him as a 10, but it's like putting Bruno Fernandes as a holding midfielder. I don't want him to be our holding midfielder because he's not a holding midfielder, but he's our best player. Just sort of, here we go on Cardoza from Betis to Atletico.

33:53Could this mean Anthony's gone soon now that they have some cash? I hope so, Daniel. There is an update on Anthony, actually, which just sort of feeds in nicely to where we are at the moment. so basically with Anthony the problem is and this is coming in from the Athletic Anthony is thought to be the closest to an exit out of Manchester United the question has always been how high Betis can afford to go so even though Anthony is logically quite a straightforward sale to do he's problematic because the club that he probably wants to play at can't actually afford him. So, I mean, I don't know what's happened to the Atletico Madrid interest.

34:39I don't know what's happened to the Juventus interest. I mean, Anthony actually had an incredible six months, half a season. Like, he should be so easy to get rid of. And yet, here we are at the back end of June and it's not easy at the moment, is it? So I'm hoping that Anthony will go, but you know what? I'd rather Anthony wanted to go to Atletico Madrid and they just go, there's the 30 million, than I want to go to Betis, but they can't afford me. And then we, again, it's the same as Rashford. If we've got to negotiate with Betis for the next month, that means Anthony goes on tour. That means, you know, you just don't want this.

35:26that means we're wasting resources negotiating with bettisk the problem with all these players that we need to get rid of is it's time and we need to cut that time down because we don't have infinite resources i mean so jim madcliffe sacked half our workforce by the way so to anybody that thinks we've got enough people to work on multiple deals we didn't have enough people to work on multiple deals two years ago. We definitely don't have them now. So negotiating with Betis on Anthony, negotiating with Barca on Rashford, negotiating with Juventus and Fenerbahce and Sancho, how long are we negotiating on these?

36:06How much time does that take? If we weren't negotiating on them, we could be trying to get an honour out. We could be trying to get a goalkeeper in. We could be getting a striker in. And I just see United at the moment getting swamped because nothing is easy. Even Anthony, which should be the most easiest deal ever, looks like it's going to take a lot of negotiating because Betis can't afford him. And we're just getting swamped. We're drowning ourselves in volume of work that's slowing us down on everything else. And we don't have a lot of staff for that area. We simply don't. So it's going to slow us down.

36:43And hopefully Betis can just pay the money. Another player, though, interestingly, in the Athletic, just very, very quickly, United are also struggling to drum up suitors for Malassia. Spent the second half of last season, obviously, at PSV, but there is no interest in him at all at the moment, Malassia. And I don't know, I mean, he can't have that long left on his contract. Let's have a quick look. But he's another one rocking into Carrington with a smile. This year's Donny van de Beek or Andreas Pereira. yeah his contract's up in a year so he's another one that's probably just going to be hanging around Old Trafford for a year I've got nothing against Malassia but it's just you know he is just going to be another player that's training with us for a year running his contract down who has got no future at the football club at all it's my birthday says TJ happy birthday mate it would make my day if we could get Rashford out on loan rather than keeping him here and paying in his wages.

37:46We need a striker. Happy birthday, mate. Hope you have a good one. Suraj says, we have to take a hit with players like Anthony Sancho, Rashford, Casemiro. Reason, crazy salaries. Solution, salary cap for new players in two or three seasons will be in a better position. Let's do it, says Keel, in relation to the loan. Robert McCormack says, last summer, if you'd said Rashford and Ganacho out for Mbermo and Cunha, you'd have been locked up. I hope one season of good and bad doesn't ruin us in the long term, says Robert. It's a fair point. It is a fair point. There's no guarantee that in a year's time, Marcus Rashford hasn't had a good season for Barca and Ganaccio is not tearing it up somewhere else and Embermo and Cunha have flopped.

38:29I mean, hopefully that won't happen. I agree with what we're doing. I mean, Ganaccio does need to go. Rashford does need to go and Embermo and Cunha are good signings, but Man United can be a graveyard for good players. Rashford wants Barca and they'll only pay half. I've done that one from AlphaZoo Adventures, I think. Thank you very much for that. What positions do you think United will definitely sign in, says Ilya.

38:57I think from this point, Embermo will sign. And beyond that, definitely. I wouldn't say definitely anything. I'd like to say striker. I'm 90 % sure we will get a striker in, but I wouldn't say definitely with this board. I wouldn't say definitely a midfielder. I wouldn't say definitely a goalkeeper. And I'm not even going to say definitely a striker. I am seriously worried about what I said last night. We will not have a striker for the US Tour. It's four weeks away and we haven't even started talking to a striker and we don't do deals in four weeks. So if we're not going to have a striker for the US Tour, what chance we've got a striker for the Arsenal game?

39:39And if we haven't got a striker for the Arsenal game and we start off the season okay, we might just go let's not bother with a striker that is starting to worry me a little bit I still think there's a very high chance that we'll sign a striker but if you haven't got one for pre-season and you haven't got one for the first game of the season then what price United go maybe we don't need one Hi Mark been here since the holidays your videos helped me get through many difficult times I've recently got married but probably heard your voice more than my wife's these past years keep it up Andre thank you for being a fantastic member of this fantastic community I really appreciate it.

40:15Thank you for that from Ilya. Marcus is very happy with the two number 10 signings, but the major issue is a goalkeeper and a striker. Our player of the season was actually our number 10. Are we moving Bruno back then? We need two wing backs as well, says Marcus. I think whatever happens, we're not going to fulfil what we need this summer.

40:34You're right. We need more than a striker, a goalkeeper and two number 10s. But for a first summer, we were never going to do everything, I suppose. certainly not with this board. I think Betis, Rory C mentioned that as well. They can't plead property now, Betis, says Rory C. They've just sold Johnny Cardosa. They've got to pay up now if they want him. And John says, the Glazers and Ineos are winning. Talks of keeping the goalkeeper or using Xerxia as striker are creeping in. We finish 15th, not 5th. This squad needs help, says John. You know what I think it is? Lethargy and out of sight, out of mind.

41:11And as we spoke about last night, there's people in the fan base who are saying that what we're talking about is negative and they want positivity. If you want positivity, go and watch Mamma Mia on DVD or stream it. If you want reality, listen to this community. There's nothing to be positive about. As was just said there, we finished 15th in the league. Our worst ever Premier League points total. we lost to Spurs in a cup final. We've bought one player and it's nearly the end of June. We've sold nobody. And there's a massive pile of shit that was meant to get rid of. Where we are at the moment, we are not going to have the players that Amarim needs for pre-season.

41:59It would be a miracle to have players in for pre-season beyond Kunya and Mbemo. It would be a miracle if he doesn't turn up for pre-season training and have some of the shit players he doesn't want there. The US tour is going to end up being a PR tour again, like it was last year. Liverpool, Liverpool last season didn't buy players because Arna Slott was going to work with the players that he had. They won every game on pre-season and every game in pre-season they played well, learning the system that Slott wanted to play. They then won their first three games of the Premier League season without conceding a goal and they won 10 out of their first 11 Premier League games.

42:43They had a good pre-season and it went into the season. What happened with Man United? We had a shit pre-season, we didn't get our signings in early, we sacked our manager in October. There's a contrast and I don't know why, unfortunately we're being run by accountants and not football people because the obvious correlation between a good pre-season and a good season is so clear and we ignore it every year to save money. So it's not negativity, it's a reality. We won't have a striker for pre-season. It's so obvious. Dazzo says, you said at the start you can't win every battle when it comes to Rashford, but why do we have to lose every battle when it comes to player sales?

43:30We lose every time. Because of who's in charge, mate. If you were in charge, it'd be a different story. Got a loan Rashford now, so Steve Woodley, he could do an Anthony and up his value. Thank you very much. Daniel's just mentioned that here we go from Betis as well. Just on the midfielder, I'm going to talk about Sancho, but just on the midfielder, there's a few people sort of saying that we're going to buy a midfielder

44:00because Ericsson's going. And that is not the reason. I don't really get this right. We're not replacing Ericsson. There's people there that go,

44:16we'll buy a midfielder to replace Ericsson. Ericsson wasn't seen as a first-team player. Ericsson was a squad filler. We're not going to replace Ericsson with a first-team midfielder. I can't afford it. Our roster in the midfield is stacked. Collier, Maynou, Casemiro, Agate, Bruno for two positions. So there's people out there that think Ericsson going creates a space in the midfield. We're not in Europe. A lot of the time we're going to play once a week and we've got five midfielders that can play in two positions. we're not replacing Eriksen with an Edison or a Paulinho or the lad from Club Bruges that is not the plan and I don't know I don't know why people start putting it out there because it's dangerous the plan is not to replace Eriksen with a top midfielder if we want a top midfielder Amorim has got to sell to buy so Casemiro or Maynou or Bruno or Agarte or Collier one of those have got to go to bring another midfielder in.

45:23Eriksen's not the player that's going to be replaced. Eriksen is just a money saver, save his wages, pay a bit of debt off. We're not replacing Eriksen. That's not part of the plan. And the reason I mention it is I think most of you know that, but there are people out there that think we're replacing Eriksen. We're not replacing Eriksen. He's not seen. We're not replacing Lindelof. They are just money savers. And it's probably not a bad idea because the squad is big. So Eriksen and Lindelof are seen as wastage. They're cut from the squad. We save a little bit of money. We don't need to replace Lindelof and Eriksen.

45:58Lindelof at the back doesn't need to be replaced. You've got Maguire. You've got Heaven. You've got Martinez. You've got Yoro. You've got De Litz. You've got Masraoui. You've got Luke Shaw for three positions. So we're not replacing Lindelof and we're not replacing Eriksen. So if we get a midfielder, it will be because Casemiro or somebody else is gone. And obviously that means you've got to sell to buy again. uh yel says there's nearly been world war three and was busy with that news for two weeks now i checked united and was still in exactly the same position ins and outs it's shocking thank you very much pal hope you're doing well uh hi merc heard heard something a few days ago about anana and monaco any truth there's no truth in it dylan um apparently uh they couldn't agree terms um thank you very much um okay uh appreciate that uh mark uh you are acting like letting rashford go on loan for half his wages is going to allow us to sign a striker.

46:48No, I'm not. I'm not.

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48:39I've never said that. What I've said is loaning Rashford now saves time on negotiating for two months. It frees up some wages and it's the most logical thing to do so that he's not on pre-season for causing toxicity with Amrum. He doesn't want him to be there. If we get rid of Rashford, it doesn't mean we sign a striker. we just need to get rid of Rashford

49:05let's talk about Jadon Sancho very quickly depressing, so depressing, so depressing so basically a load of shit updates coming in about Rashford from Italy about swap deals with Vlahovic about Juventus being desperate to sign him but don't want to pay his wages I would file the Sancho stories this morning under absolute shite I mean, again, just another boring player that I don't see as a Man United player that I wish would just piss off. Corriella, the sport, are saying that Juventus' director is described as vigorously pursuing a move for Sancho, but the club are hesitant about the huge wages that are in very hot contacts with his entourage.

49:48Man United want a permanent sale, but Juventus want a loan with an option to buy or an obligation based on certain circumstances. I mean, this just makes no sense. this is just a little bit like somebody writing the biggest crappiest piece of fiction in the world how can we have an obligation to buy on a player that's contracts up at the end of the year so he goes to Juventus he does quite well and then United go remember that obligation to buy and then Juventus go he's out of contract do one how can you have an obligation to buy on a player that's got one year left on his contract I mean it's just I don't know whether people just think take take football fans for stupid um the Sancho story to me is boring me to tears really um I don't understand why anybody would pay a transfer fee for him I don't understand why he would want anybody to pay a transfer fee for him the guy is very very much out for himself as we've seen time and time and time again he has one year left on his contract he's on very very good wages if he sits on his ass for a year he gets paid those wages and in a year's time nobody has to pay anything for him apart from whoever gets him on a free and then he'll get very good wages again i don't understand why he would take a pay cut to sign a new contract with somebody so that man united can get a transfer fee when he can just sit there do nothing run his contract down, get a loan deal and be in a much better situation.

51:23But we're still talking. I mean, also, how do you do a swap deal for Vlahovic? Sancho's worth is about 15 million quid. So how does a swap deal work? It's just, it's frying my brain, this Sancho story. But again, again, there's a running theme this morning. We're negotiating on Sancho. How many weeks are we going to be doing this? We're negotiating on Anthony. We're negotiating on Rashford. We're negotiating on Sancho. Add Ganacho into that equation. That's four complex negotiations that could run for weeks. And we hardly have enough people to work on an Embermo deal. All those negotiations on players that we just need to cut our losses on and get rid of so we can bring new players in.

52:13It's so frustrating. We don't have enough people for this work. We certainly don't have enough competent people for this work. So if I'm negotiating with multiple parties on Sancho, I'm wasting time. If I'm negotiating with Barcelona and Rashford, I'm wasting time. If I'm negotiating with Betis and Anthony, I'm wasting time because they all take time. And what we really need to be doing is getting an honour out the club so we can get a goalkeeper, getting a striker into the football club. These are the things that really matter. Building the future, not prolonging the past. And that's basically what a lot is going on at the moment.

52:58It's basically July and we're still talking about maybe doing stuff with sales that really and look I do have sympathy in a certain sense that you know it says a lot about the character of these players I mean look somebody should pay for these crimes against Manchester United all these silly contracts that we've handed out are you telling me that these players were absolutely fine with great mentality and then they came to Man United and turned into lazy mercenaries every one of these players Ganacho, Sancho, Rashford Anthony, Anana Rasmus, you know, whoever if they've been told they're not part of the plans then June should have been, I pay you to be my agent, get me a move all I want in the second week of July is to be at my new club pre-season ready to go, I'm a footballer I'm a professional footballer all I want, and all I'm asking of you is I want to be in my new club in the middle of July.

54:02I don't want to be turning up to Carrington like a spare part, signing for a new club in August, weeks behind everybody else because I haven't had a proper pre-season. I want to play football. If Man United don't want me, I want to be somewhere by the middle of July having a proper pre-season at a club that does. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have anybody that has that mentality at the moment. and that really reflects badly on the football club because we should have picked up on these personalities before we even bought them and we clearly haven't done it. We clearly haven't prioritised the right mentalities because I don't understand why some of these players just sat there chilling, thinking, if it takes till the end of August, it takes till the end of August.

54:47I'll run my contract down, which is why I'm hoping that Rashford's pushing Barcelona because I would respect that. I would respect the fact that he wants to just get on with his career and we should let him do it because we're not going to get the money. They can't because Trashford's got to go, says Bees. What if Marcus, Brian and Kunya make it work? Oh, God. Mate, you've just wasted everybody's oxygen there. 44 Mad says, what if Rashford, Brian and Kunya make it work as a front three? Do you not listen to anything? Do you just have the voice in your head saying... What about Amrim doesn't want Rashford at the club?

55:24Do you not understand? What about Rashford doesn't want to be at Man United that you don't understand? It doesn't want to be here. They don't want him here. He doesn't want to be here. Remove Rashford as part of our future.

55:41Yeah.

55:45Slightly frustrated. You know, normally I loved the show last night, and I'm sure the eight o 'clock show will be good. I've got to say, I'm sort of coming out of this show quite with a bit of a headache.

55:58Not caused by you, not caused by you. Because sometimes it's not therapy, it's a conversation and you sometimes start a conversation and at the end of the conversation, you learn something you didn't know. And I feel enlightened to the fact that although I am concerned about the summer transfer window and how slow we're being, I'm actually waking up to the realities. The fantasy has disappeared. The hope is gone. We're not going to have a striker in for pre-season because we can't do a deal in four weeks. And I know how slow United's negotiation team is and how crap we are at working on more than one deal.

56:42And the fact is we're clearly negotiating Sancho and that's going to take ages. Rashford and that's going to take ages. Ganacho and that's going to take ages. And Anthony is going to take ages. So we're working on four deals that are just going to take us away from trying to get Anana out, trying to get Casemiro out, trying to get a striker in. It is what it is. It's just not moving quick enough and we're getting bogged down with incompetence, we're not in control of this transfer window at the moment. We can change it, but we're clearly not in control of it at the moment. Things need to start moving very quickly.

57:27I mean, hopefully they can. Hopefully they can. But there is a hell of a lot to do and there's not a lot of time. And don't fall into the trap of August the 31st. If you're doing deals in August, the season started and if you're doing deals in August when the season started you've failed the manager the pre-season was a massive part of next season we could always change the formations as Kiel Tusha says this happens because United give players too long to perform if it's not working in the second season you sell them we keep the third season and then cry but we have to keep them for the third season to be fair Tusha because they're on such big wages nobody will buy them this is the biggest problem we have Zandrum says we needed good players and mixing these bad behavior players with players who want to play will spoil them as well we need to be fast on outgoings great point thank you everybody for watching uh take care we're back at two o 'clock we've also got an eight o 'clock show as well um thank you very much this morning as as per usual get your comments and if you didn't watch live and i'll speak to you on the next one take care have a great day

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