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1:57this to be hitting the main press in the next few days. It is a message on the transfers and it's a message of calmness. We've also got an update on the striker. We've got an update on Embermo. We've got an update on the midfield and we've got an update on Jadon Sancho as well. So lots to get into. Straight away, Imi says 60 million plus five is easy add-ons. If not, then we walk away. We have got a live poll in the chat at the moment. Should United walk away from the Embermo deal? 78 % of you are saying no, 22 % of you are saying yes. But let's start off first of all with a bit of exclusive news coming out of the club from Manchester United.

2:33Definitely expect this to be hitting the mainstream in the next few hours and days. This is the message coming out at the moment. Manchester United are calm about this transfer window and so is Ruben Amrim. Their stance is that the transfer window is open until the end of August. Pre-season doesn't start for a couple of weeks. They have Kunja in. They're working on an Embermo deal. They know it's going to be challenging to sell. And actually, they still have other targets in mind. And at this point, Amarim is not panicking. So why is that? Is that fair? Is that PR? We can break that down. We can break that down by talking about what's happening with the striker.

3:15We can break that down by talking what's happening with the goalkeeper, the exits and everything else. So would you be as calm as Amarim apparently is? It's one to delve into. But first of all, let's hit some news. In relation to Embermo, this is what Fabrizio Romano has said overnight. Obviously, last night we had that story that David Ornstein said that Brentford hadn't accepted Manchester United's second offer. So 45 plus 10 rejected, 55 plus 7.5 in add-ons rejected. This is what Fabrizio Romano has had to say. My understanding is that Brentford constantly mentioned in talks with Man United the price tags of other players on the market, which is why they want more than what Man United have offered.

3:56My understanding is that not that Brentford have rejected the bid and talks have stopped. The conversations for Brian Mbemo continue. The two clubs are again in talks and are trying to find a solution. United remain calm, confident and optimistic. Manchester United remain in active talks with Brentford to reach an agreement on the fee. In the next days, the conversation will continue. Man United will try and find the final solution for Embermo. The story is active and very alive after the proposal turned down. Total and utter contradiction there. And I'm not going to go at Fabrizio, but my understanding is that Brentford haven't rejected the bid and the talks will continue.

4:31And then at the very end, the story is still alive after the proposal was turned down. So we're just getting into, you know, finite detail that we don't need to do. They've rejected the bid, but the talks are continuing to change the bid. I mean, I find the evolution of football transfers sometimes strange. You know, the word concrete comes up from, you know, the only time people talk about concrete is on a building site. We now use it in transfer vocabulary. They've rejected the second bid. So bloody what? They've rejected it. We need to tweak it. That's what's happened. All this bloody, well, they haven't rejected it.

5:07They just haven't accepted it. And we've got to redo it. So they've rejected it. You've offered them 55 plus seven and a half. They've said no. You're now tweaking it. Let's just move on. Like it's not it's not that big. We're still in talks. It will still happen. We should not be walking away from this. Ruben Amrim does not want to walk away from this. And as per Fabrizio, as per David Ornstein, we're not going to walk away from this deal. The negotiations continue. He's literally just put a tweet out in the last minute. The negotiations for Mbermo remain ongoing. The structure of the deal is being discussed.

5:48Informed all parties three days ago about clear desire to join Man United and that was from Mbermo. So look, we've basically done what we've done with every other deal. And I'm not going to go into it in any great detail because we are where we were last night. They've turned down two bids. We've now got to tweak it. We're not far off. We will get it done. But I think we're trying to spin that we haven't had the second bid rejected. It's part of negotiations. We've had it rejected. Just put in a better bid. You know, it's almost like we're trying to spin we didn't lose the battle. Like, there's no battle to be won.

6:23There's no battle to be won apart from we signed Mbermo. I don't really care if you get your bids rejected. It's how quick you do your deals. You know, Craig David FC, I'd be happy. Got rejected on Monday, put another bid on Tuesday. We were getting rejected by Wednesday, but on Thursday and Friday, did his medical and went on holiday. You know, we'd be happy with that, wouldn't we? I don't mind getting rejected three or four times as long as you get the player. It's how quickly we do it. That's all that I'm bothered about. We're in negotiations. He will sign for United. Let's wait and see when it can actually be a here we go.

6:57But it will happen. And as for people saying we should walk away, walk away from what? There were so many comments last night after last night's video. I was reading them and respect. So many people were saying walk away. Respect. but my stance is walk away from and do what walk away from a player that's a plan a signing for Amrim reset and start again and also a Brentford not right remember all those people out there that were saying that we're in talks with Semenyu and I said we're not in talks with Semenyu I had that from very good source we're not in for Semenyu we're not in for Semenyu at all I don't even know whether we ever really wanted Semenyu but we were never in talks because Bournemouth wants 70 million quid.

7:39Semenyu for 70 million quid and some people are saying walk away from Embermo for 60. João Pedro for Brighton they've rejected 50. Alanga at Forest they've rejected 45. We're not paying a stupid fee here. It's just slow negotiations. That's your frustration. The fee is going to be fine but in context of what people want for Premier League wingers we're not actually paying stupid price. We're probably paying the markets inflated but we're not paying a silly price. It's not Anthony. So get the deal done. It'll happen. Certainly stick with it. That's what I would say. So yeah, look, a few other bits to get into but let me just re-svert back to the start.

8:19So coming out of Man United at the moment and I guarantee you this is going to be in the press in the next few days. We sometimes get these on a Saturday morning. The position from Man United is calm. You're going to get that. You're going to get that from the club. I'm more interested in the position from Amrim and Amrim is apparently calm. motivated and ready to go. He is not stressed about the transfer window. I think some of us are, but at the moment, Amrim isn't stressed because he has Kunja, he will have Mbamo. And on the striker situation, this is a bit of new information, on the striker situation, you could get stressed, you could get worried, but look at the market on strikers.

8:58Who has signed a striker other than Chelsea? Chelsea are the only Premier League club that signed a striker. So Man United want a striker, but we have to respect the market. This is not me talking, by the way. This is information. We have to respect the market. Arsenal haven't bought their striker. Liverpool haven't bought their striker. There are other clubs in the Premier League that want strikers, and the striker market is moving slow. You can't rush a deal that's not there to be done, and United, at the moment, are very much trying to get the best striker they can get for Reuben Amrim, and they might not get him.

9:35So they could pivot now and get the Mitrovic or the Mateta or whoever else it's going to be, but that's not actually their plan. They want somebody else, but they can't get that somebody else at the moment because other things need to happen first. That could be Eketike, that could be Ossiman, that could be Jokeres, but none of those three players, Man United are not in a position to go, let's do that deal. We need other things to happen. so look of course there is an awareness from Amrim that he needs players in for pre-season but in the striker situation it isn't as easy as just going out and doing that also he acknowledges that the market was always going to be challenging for Manchester United with regards to selling players don't really have anything to say about that nothing was said about that but in relation to players coming in there is a calmness around Amrim at the moment, he doesn't want Man United walking away from an Embermo deal.

10:31He wants Embermo. That's a plan A signing. Kunja was a plan A signing. And obviously he wants a striker and a goalkeeper. With the striker, we're just going to have to, you know, I've said this. I don't like it. We won't have a striker for the US tour. If you're going to the tour, fair play. You won't be seeing a striker for Man United. It's just not going to happen. We're not going to pull a deal off that quickly. It's what, three, three and a half weeks till we go on the tour. We won't have a striker. It's not going to happen. and we're not even in talks with the striker. We may not even have, I was told this morning, we may not even have a striker for the Arsenal game.

11:05That's not acceptable to fans, but apparently in the club and Amarim, they're sort of awake to the fact that that might not happen. It depends how quickly other clubs start moving on strikers. Because at the moment, United can't hold concrete talks with anybody. Even I'm using bloody concrete. More concrete than a bloody driveway. way um yeah we can't start talks with anybody at the moment because no one will talk to us because the way and see what's going to happen elsewhere so the chances of having a striker in for the first game of the season is slim i would still hope that's possible but certainly not for the tour and as for the goalkeeper well as we put as we put as we reported back in march amrin wants a new goalkeeper but we we're struggling we're struggling to get rid of an honor so that's where we are with with uh that at the moment uh a few people saying can you talk about fabrizio's tweet that he's just put out if you turned if you turned up on time you'd know we've already spoken about it and you'd also know there's nothing in there that we didn't know last night it's just there's nothing in there I don't know what you're getting excited about like we've been doing this for years there's people here who are here to have a you know a conversation about how we talk we don't veer off because Fabrizio's putting a tweet out that he said on his video 10 hours ago and last week and the week before and the week before that all he's saying is negotiations are still going on between Man United and Brentford and that Embermo wants to come to Man United.

12:23I mean, I'm not being an arse, but correct me if I'm wrong, that's basically what he's just tweeted.

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14:17You know, David Ornstein wouldn't tweet that because they're two very different journalists. David Ornstein will tweet once about Man United this week and it will be a big update. Fabrizio, because he works independently, has to just keep putting the stuff like that out. There's nothing in there. That's not breaking news. I'm sorry, that is not breaking news. We're still in negotiations with Mbamo. Mbamo wants to come to Manchester United and Man United remain confident that they can get a deal done. Like, we know all that. I'm sorry, but that, look, there's the update. Some people really obviously enjoy that, but we do know all that.

14:50Come on. So going back to what we were talking about there. Yeah, there is a calmness. There is at the moment and there is an acceptance that the striker situation is out of our hands. what I would say about that though because that's just what we've been told my risk my reaction to that is that as frustrating as it is what can we do I mean look sometimes we we vent we frustrate we get angry etc but ultimately in the striker situation um I am frustrated by it but it is who we are like we're not aggressive when it comes to transfers we never have been we don't go out and get these deals done. I've said this for years now.

15:32I remember when Liverpool got Fabinho. I really wanted United to sign Fabinho and they were linked to him on the Monday. He was holding up the shirt at eight o 'clock. Sorry, they were linked to him in the morning. He was holding up the shirt at eight o 'clock that night and Liverpool have always been very quick and efficient. We're never going to be that. So you can sort of time United's transfer activity when they start talking to a player. Soon as Ornstein or Romano say Man United are in concrete talks with a player, you basically start your clock and say, any time in the next four to six weeks, he'll be holding up the shirt.

16:05And that's not 46, four to six. So we're not having, you know, the striker situation is frustrating because I think it's a really important position. I'm not comfortable with going into next season rotating Xerxes and Rasmus. I don't think that's a step forward. I think pre-season will kid people. If anyone's ever read my book, which is not on there anymore, There's actually a chapter about pre-season and how people start to see things in pre-season that aren't there. It's like having nine pints of lager, like it's not real. So I do want a striker. Amarim does want a striker, but we're not going to get one anytime soon.

16:43But as per the updates, what are we supposed to do? Jochores is waiting for Arsenal. De Lapp went to Chelsea. Ossiman is basically flirting with a load of clubs. Eketika is very expensive and I'm not sure he's the right fit. Yes, you can go for Mateta. Yes, you can go for somebody like that. But would you go for Mateta now or would you hang in the race for an Osman, Jokeres, etc.? And let's not forget, some of you would go, well, I'd go for Mateta now. You're starting six weeks of negotiations with Mateta. Look at Brentford with Embermo. They've always been open to doing a deal. Crystal Palace with Mateta will be reluctant to do a deal.

17:23so we'll be negotiating with them for about six seven weeks so it's the I think some people think oh I'd rather just get Mateta today than wait weeks for a Jokeres or an Ossiman we will be negotiating with Palace with Mateta for weeks and weeks and weeks they don't want to sell so I see that it is frustrating around the striker but I do I do start to it's took me a few weeks but I am starting to understand why we went for Liam De Lapp. And obviously, one, was he was cheap. But two, it's a quick deal and you don't spend all summer trying to get a striker. And maybe that's what United went for De Lapp for as well.

18:02Quick deal, get him in for pre-season. If we don't get him, it's going to be double the price and, you know, triple the weight. And I think maybe that was part of the attraction of Liam De Lapp. I hope we don't get Jocarez like I do. I hope we don't regret Yokeres like I do. Alk Norris is SNS. I'm getting deja vu. I'm sure he said that last night. Bounty Hunters is alcohol bullshit on United not panicking or Amarim. But look, mate, I can only I can only deliver what's coming out of the club. And as I said, that this will be coming out in mainstream outlets very, very soon as well. So it's a brief essentially.

18:40Essentially, not sexually. Do you believe it? Well, look, I think many people will say PR and spin. I don't know. I don't know. If I was Ruben Amarin, you don't know. If he's been given promises, I don't know. I don't know how to interpret it. I'll have to have a think about it, I suppose. I hope you and the fam are well. If we're paying 60 million for two of the top five Premier League players this season, how can we expect 40 million for Rashford or 60 million for Canachos as Hitton? Rub says, good to join here after a long time. I'm stressed at work for a month now. Who knew firing people is so difficult in the Netherlands?

19:16Slackers need kicking out. Also from United. 100 % rubbed. Whether it's football or not. 100%. PR bollocks as usual from Glynios. So lots of people saying it feels like PR. John says, we shouldn't walk. It just looks bad because we're slow. If we moved faster and handled multiple deals at once, no one would care. Exactly. Exactly, John. We shouldn't be walking away from Embermo. So the frustration is how long we're taking. It's not the fee, I don't think. United, usual transfer tactics, delay then pay. We certainly shouldn't walk away, says John. Tony from Malaysia here says, Tony, how are you all doing?

19:56Lovely stuff, Tony. Hope you're doing well. Okay, let's move it along a little bit because we have got a couple of other bits to get into, which are actual news stories this morning. Where should we go next? Let's talk, excuse me. let's talk about um

20:15edison so edison's on the thumbnail so we should we should bloody talk about edison really so edison of atalanta midfield option for manchester united where are we at with this because in the last 12 hours there's been a lot of stories coming out from the italian press about man united being back in for edison uh remember we've been linked to karnesecki the atalanta goalkeeper. They're sort of now moving away from that and saying whilst inquiring about him, they've held talks with Edison, Man United looking to relight the fire under that deal that was very much a deal United were looking at in April and early May pre-losing the Europa League final.

20:54So is Edison likely to be joining Manchester United this summer? No. I mean, look, I could be wrong, but come on. I mean, I think there are people out there that just have websites and write any old shit to get you to read it. That's not really what the United stand is all about. We'll give you the story and then we'll give you the opinion. The story is that United are back in for Edison and looking to do a deal. The reality, in my pure opinion, without being told anything, this is not from the club, no source, no journalist. My honest assessment of this is absolutely not a chance in the world.

21:33If we can't afford to buy a goalkeeper, how the hell are we going to pay whatever Atalanta want? And apparently Atalanta are not budging on 70 million euros. So 60 million pounds for Edison. Now people are moaning about Embermo for 60 million. He's a Premier League proven goalscorer and assister in the league that we want in a position that we need. ederson we do need a midfielder like him but we've already got five midfielders and we're not in europe and i think that's the key to this if we'd got into champions league football i would have said we've got a chance with no european football a limited budget a full midfield roster um and at that price forget it absolutely forget it there's just there's no point even thinking about this um And I've seen a lot of people talking about it, though, and I just wanted to bring it in because you never know.

22:27He's definitely a target for Manchester United. We've scouted this player extensively for the last two years and he's a good player and I like him. And I think he'd fit into the midfield pivot really, really well. But he's coming in from the Italian League. You can't be paying 60 million pounds when we haven't got enough money for a player like that in a position like that where it's needed, but not at that price. So for me, not being in the Champions League killed this deal. But what I will say is that absolutely United were interested. Absolutely United had a chance of signing in. But like many things, I think the absence of European football and the damage that's done to our ability to negotiate, but also actually have funds.

23:13I can't see it. I can't see it. Even if Casemiro left, I can't see it. I really can't. even if we sold Maynou, I don't think we could afford it. And that would be pure profit. So yeah, on Edison, interest, whatever. But I think it died the day we lost the Spurs in that final, if I'm being completely honest. I might not be right, but we'll see. And as Mini Brew says, Douglas Luiz would be more realistic. And the interesting thing about Douglas Luiz is, Edison's actually just turned 25, literally three weeks ago. Douglas Luiz turned 27 so there's only two years between them one of them's going to be 20 million and one of them's going to be 60 million so for who we are I think if you're Liverpool or Man City you go for Ederson because you feel he's the better player but for who we are a club that can't even get in the top half of the table I think you go for the cheaper option and that's we're going to look I know who we are and I know who you want us to be but we are still a football club that's had its worst ever Premier League season, finished 15th in the league and was absolutely dreadful.

24:21We can't just go for, you know, Premier quality players. On some of the players, there has to be an element of risk. And I think you look at what Arsenal have done with Norgard at 31. If Arsenal can buy a 31-year-old for their midfield, we can buy a 27-year-old. So we just need to lower our expectations in certain areas. You know, if you get a goalkeeper and a good, if you get a good goalkeeper and a good striker and Embermo and Cunha, I would take a Douglas Luiz in midfield and I'd be happy with that. This is an interesting story because it's going to take us to Fenerbahce. Smashburger says, Duran to Fenerbahce, why can't we try him?

24:58I mean, this is incredible. So Duran goes to Saudi last January, so five months ago, goes to Saudi for, how much was it? 80 million quid. He's leaving. He's leaving. He's going to Fenerbahce now, reported by Romano this morning. So I don't get it. I was speaking to a Villa fan this morning, actually, and I said, what's going on there? And they said, reputationally at Villa, he's a bit of a hothead. So I don't know whether he's gone to Saudi and, you know, caused a few issues there or what. Ronaldo's obviously staying. I don't know what it's all about, but they've invested a lot of money in him and they're moving him out within five months.

25:35So, again, look, the Saudi league's whole point is to build a league. They're buying younger players. They want a competitive league. They're in it for the long run. The World Cup's going to be there in five years' time. So the Saudi recruitment drive is not going to stop. We saw that with Bruno. But with Duran, I don't think he's gone there and gone, actually, I'd like to go on loan to Benabache. Something's clearly gone wrong there. My, Jack says, is he a Balotelli regent? Well, this is why I would say to Smashburger, don't bring Duran to Man United, because there's a big red flag there. If he's gone to Saudi and five months later they're removing him, There's probably something going on.

26:15And again, he's a young striker as well. He's not the profile of what we need, basically. Too many question marks. I'd rather go for Tony. Brentford have the right to ask for that amount of slow sports news. We've put ourselves in a different situation and they've only got themselves to blame. Thank you much, mate. Hope you're doing very well. I hope everyone's doing well this morning. Really enjoying the show. Yeah, really good comments coming in. obviously I sense some frustration but you know some people I think are putting forward some interesting topics of conversation so thank you for that as always

26:52is anyone watching the club world cup says rub mate oh look I put my hands up here um i've always liked brazilian football and this was sparked by somebody in the chat yesterday or the day before why are we not recruiting from brazil so i'm gonna run an experiment today and i thought well i may as well do a watch along i'm gonna watch uh palmeiras against botafogo because i've always had an interest in the brazilian league and so i'm gonna five o 'clock today i'm just gonna watch it and i will do a watch along on that's football i'm also gonna to do Flamengo against Bayern Munich tomorrow night at nine o 'clock.

27:32So yeah, I am going to do those watch-alongs because I just want to sort of gauge the Brazilian league comparable to our sort of leagues. And also, I've just got a feeling that's going to be a real firecracker of a game. So I'll be watching that at five o 'clock, yeah. So let me talk about Fenerbahce anyway in relation to Manchester United. So Fabrizio has given an update that we can all sort of discuss. He says the situation between Jadon Sancho and Fenerbahce is calm. This move seems unlikely. United are awaiting a club to sign him or cover his full salary. Currently, no one wants to pay his entire salary.

28:15So remember what we said last night and some people were saying that it's not true. A story came out from Turkey that Jose Mourinho had spoken to

28:32Amorim and decided that Sancho wasn't the person to him because he doesn't want people who are motivated by money. I don't want to say I told you so because I think that's not fair. But I do feel sort of like what my stance has always been all week is true. We had this breaking story on Tuesday or Wednesday that Juventus were close to a deal. Napoli were close to a deal. Fenerbahce were close to a deal. And every time I've sort of thrown it to the community to see if I'm missing something, why would Jadon Sancho sign for a club so that we can get money and he takes a pay cut when in a year's time he can go for free and get all the money himself and also over the next year earn whatever his wage is and I don't know what his wage is I don't know what I'm I don't know what Sancho actually earns but there was an article just around the Europa League final which I'm looking at here Chelsea refused to meet the players demands and would not match his 300k a week wages even though Maresca was keen to keep him Stanford Bridge hierarchy pulled rank so I mean I don't know what he earns I don't know that I know his contract was 300k but I presumed with no European football it might have been 250 but let's say it's 250 I might be wrong it might be more I don't know what he's on but again I just think that in the space of a week Napoli, Juventus and Fenerbahce have all walked away from him Chelsea have walked away from him I mean who it's just so obvious what he's going to do it's always been obvious to me what he's going to do he's going to run his contract down he's going to sit there till the end of August he's going to turn up for pre-season he's going to go on the US tour we're going to get the return of the Prats who are Sancho FC saying he's cooking playing as a number 10 and the club just doesn't move forward does it and that's before you talk about Garnaccio and Rashford I can see this happening can see it happening miles off And look, we can moan about not having a striker.

30:45We can moan about not having a goalkeeper. And those things are contentious issues. But is it not even worse when you're taking people like him and some of the others on the tour? Because they do bring a lot of attention. The press won't shut up about them. Certain fans will be, you know, glazing them saying, oh, let's put them back in the team. and even if they do get back in the team, are we moving forward as a football club or are we just putting problems back into United and the cycle continues? I mean, what's the chance of this? You put Sancho back in the team, maybe Rashford or Ganacho back in the team, the results are bad, Amrim sacked, they're back under the table for another manager.

31:26It's like we've got to move on from this sort of thing and I feel like, as I said last night, there's obviously been some negotiations with Juventus or Napoli or Fenerbahce. And that's just wasting our negotiators' time who aren't actually very good at negotiating. I just think that... Is there nobody at United that... The only message we've had out from United about Sancho is that they won't let him get on loan and they want a transfer fee. And yet, there's nothing about Sancho that I trust. We were told that he was an obligation to buy to Chelsea for eight months, and then eight months later he actually could be sent back.

32:07They lie about Sancho, basically. And I don't know why they do. Some honesty would be nice. And I think the honest answer is you're not selling him. He's not going to get sold. You're not going to renew his contract because he's on 300 grand a week. He's going to run it down for a year and he's going to be a free agent. You're not going to cover all his wages with a club. Nobody's going to give him 250 grand a week. You're going to be paying half his wages and he's going to go on loan. I know it. You know it. Stop pretending about it and just do it. It's similar to Rashford. You're not going to sell Rashford and no one's going to pay all of his wages.

32:41You're going to be paying half his wages and he's going to go on loan. Now, the stupid thing for me is we all know it and we all know it's frustrating and we all know it's player power, but who looks more stupid? The football club that accepts that and knows it's going to happen and clears them out in the first week of July or the football club that denies that, takes them on tour, takes them on the US tour, lets them be there for pre-season and then gets rid of them at the end of August, having paid two months of full wages on them. Logically, we all know it's going to happen. Rashford and Sancho aren't going to get sold and they're going to go on loan and we're going to have to cover some of their wages.

33:16I can deal with it. I know it's going to happen. I know the game. So loan them off now. Don't lose anything. Especially in the case of Sancho, just do it. And as for somebody saying Sancho could get back in the team, how's that going to work? Kunia, Embermo, Ahmad, Mount, Xerxi. I mean, he ain't getting a kick. Manu can play as a 10 as well. He ain't getting a kick. Come on. There is no value to that player being part of pre-season. You do not want him back in that environment. But we're not going to sell him. We're not going to sell him because what United appear to be doing is speaking to the eventers, speaking to Napoli, and they'll go, we'll give you 15 million, whatever, and United go like that.

34:01and then they speak to Sancho and go, we're out. And Man United go, what do you mean? What do you mean? We've got a£15 million deal. What's going on? Well, we've agreed to deal with you, but he wants£250 ,000 a week. What? Well, you did give him that contract, so we're out. See you later. I'm sick of the story as well. I'm sick of it, Gershon. Hot to meet us, Salim. Not today, mate. Ray says, another example of us not changing one bit five weeks ago. We talked to Embermo. still no deal sorry ray i'm whizzing through that way too quick another example of us not changing one bit five weeks ago we talked to mbumo still no deal and can't sell anyone yet some sections of our fan base say that we've changed yeah right says ray yeah but i think the people who look there are people out there it's not it's not it's you know it's not even slating them it's called opinion there are people out there in the toxic positivity gang who some of which are on the bloody payroll for the glazers who will you know your dog will go in the back garden everybody will watch it do a big fresh shit they'll walk out with a plate put it on the plate sprinkle it with some sprinkles and ice cream and say it's chocolate it's you know that's what they do they sit there and do that and basically make out that they get an information when realistically they're just pro glazer and now they try and pretend that they're pro in the os but they were pro glazer before that and those people are always going to do that and that is their right no issue with it but we haven't changed we will still get players in but we haven't changed we're so slow we're not good at negotiating we can't do what Liverpool do and some people get really irritated when I say that because like me they understand that Liverpool are our biggest rival but and it almost feels dirty and disloyal to say what I'm about to say, but it's not our fault.

35:59We want Liverpool to be our biggest rival. We want to beat Liverpool. But the reality is, and we shouldn't be saying these words, but it's true, Liverpool are better than us. We can't do what Liverpool do. We can't negotiate like Liverpool do. And it's nothing to do with Liverpool winning the Premier League. Liverpool have been doing this for years. They get deals done quickly. They get it lined up. They get the player ready, they get the club ready and they do the deal and they sell well. We don't. And we don't do that because of who owns us. It's got nothing to do with Liverpool being a better football club than Manchester United or having better fans or, you know, better history or whatever.

36:39They just have better owners. They're better people working at the football club. That is why we fail. And I think some people deviate and go looking for other answers and other questions. we fail because of who runs the football club. The decisions start at the top. It's as simple as that. Any chance we can sign Kane from Bayern? Says Enchanted Angel. I think we'll just move on. Not a chance in the world. If Sancho doesn't go, he'll sit on the bench for a year and no one will want him. What's he going to do? Join Lingard in the Chinese League says Slow Sports News. He'll go on loan, mate. Sancho will go on loan.

37:14The question is, why not just get on with it now? um he collected the bag and now he's home six a smash burger about the run uh there we go i agree with you that we should uh have cashed in on bruno if we had uh who do you think would have been made captain says james i'm only going to say this very very quickly i would have sold bruno i said it i'm not changing my mind but i'm also not um oblivious to the fact that if we had sold Bruno we'd still be sat here now with no signings and all these players that we want to get rid of there coming back for pre-season so Bruno would have just given us cash um Bruno would have given us more freedom um and I don't think Bruno is a midfielder but we still would have been sat here going why is Sancho here why is Rashford here why is Ganacho here so Bruno would would have just given us some money um and I don't believe he's a midfielder but the problems still would have been there.

38:16Hi Mark, with all due respect, let's be a bit patient with the new owners. A lot of changes in the last year, keep believing this is Georgie. With all due respect, Georgie, that's your opinion. Mine's very different. I think they've been an absolute catastrophe for this football club. They're not also, with all due respect, they're not new owners. They are basically Glazer bitches. They're puppets. They own 28%. That's it. And they do nothing different to the Glazers. In fact, I think Sir Jim Radcliffe is just a British front to get regeneration of Manchester done. I don't think, I don't, I think he knows that.

38:48The Glazers were planning that regeneration in 2017. The documents are there. Everything that's going to happen to Old Trafford and the area around it was planned in 2017 by the Glazers. So Jim is just a front for it. If we can't get rid of Sancho, and the big reason I say that is because the Glazers are never going to go anywhere. They're never going anywhere. They will pass this football club down from generation to generation to generation. In fact, most of us will be dead and the Glazers will still own this football club. They ain't never letting this club go. Their dad bought it. They've got it.

39:29Their kids will have it next. Their kids will have it next. That's the future of Manchester United. I can't believe people don't realise that. If we can't get rid of Sancho, I hope Amarin banishes him from Carrington. Don't let him anywhere near the squad, says Phil. James says, we've done that one, and Emily's in the house. She says, our negotiators couldn't sell water to a thirsty man in a desert. It's embarrassing, but it's a mess of the club's own making, says Emily. Yeah. Mad how our one winger willing to take a pay cut to move on can't be sold because we'll take a loss financially, says Chunky.

40:03yeah i think he's talking about anthony on that one uh a couple of other brits to brits a couple of other bits to bring into you um i just wanted to bring this in towards the end of the show um and you know have a take a pop i'm used to it it is the weekend although it's not toxic sunday yet can be a toxic sunday um a lot of people talk about um the swap deals um i saw a couple of people funny enough i think it might have been stan collie moore who mentioned it i saw it on a tweet anyway ah that reminds me of something else to say to you as well um

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42:29swap deal Villa. Basically, I think Stan Collymore said Rasmus for Watkins. But, if Ganacho is wearing a Villa shirt, then, and Villa want Ganacho, I don't think we can do a swap with Ganacho because of FFP and all that shit. But, if we haven't got a lot of money, should we not be looking to try to be a bit creative. Selling and then buying does take a long time. Villa don't have a lot of money. We have players that maybe they want. They have players that maybe we want. Emi Martinez, Oli Watkins. I mean, I'd love Morgan Rodgers, but I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't think we actually need him now.

43:20We've got Kunier and Embermo. Some people like Inanna in the midfield. I just think that, I'm not saying it could happen or it will happen. But my point is, have we considered getting creative in the market? Like all I ever read is we're trying to sell Rasmus to Inter or we're trying to sell Sancho to Napoli or we're trying to sell Rashford to Barcelona. But there are other clubs out there that need to do business as well. And I mean, I don't know, could we not loan one of their players and we loan one of our players? I don't know. I'm just thinking outside of the box because I'm just trying to think of ways that Manchester United can speed things up.

44:00Because obviously overarching this show, we've got this story that Amarim's calm and United are calm. But you can be calm and also see the finish line getting closer and closer and closer. Like pre-season, I feel there are three finishing lines in the transfer window. There is the start of pre-season, where if you've got most of your business done, you're ready to go. There is when you go on your tour, where you need to have most of your business done because that's the last opportunity to get players in for pre-season. And then you've got the start of the season, which for me is the finish line.

44:34You know, if you haven't got your players in for the start of the season, you're taking the piss. So those finish lines for Man United are coming really, really quick. And we can be as calm as we like, but all they're selling is a repackaging of every other transfer window we've had, where they say they're calm. and they almost live by this rule that, well, the transfer window doesn't close till August the 31st, but you can't keep pretending to write a story that we've already seen. Like, oh, we're really calm. The window's going exactly how we like. And I just feel like going, hold on a minute, right?

45:10You just stay quiet for a minute. So you're really calm because the transfer window doesn't close until the end of August. And yet the first season of Ten Hag, you lost your first two games and then you bought Anthony and Casemiro. We had a terrible start to the season. You bought late. Agate bought late, had a terrible season. The Litton-Mazrawi weren't ready for the first game of the season and didn't have a pre-season. Terrible season. You had to sack your manager. You know, Jose Mourinho, the season he got sacked, crap summer transfer window, didn't get him the players that you wanted, wasted loads and loads of time.

45:43wouldn't go five million up to get Perisic. They project calm and competence. And yet we've got years and years of evidence that buying late, taking your time, being calm doesn't translate to us having a good season. The only thing that translates to having a good season is get the players in for pre-season and away you go. And to me, that's 100 % where we need to be. so the calmness argument that's sort of where I am and thank you to you lot because I wasn't too sure where I was about it when we were talking about it but where I am now is I'm not calm Amrim might be calm I'm not calm you need a pre-season I'm not calm you're not going to get a pre-season the way things are going you're not getting players out and you're not getting players in quick enough calm mates people are Amrim out at the end of the season they won't forget that They've just gone quiet.

46:36They're asleep. They're hibernating. They haven't gone. There's an element of the media. There's an element of the ex-player fan base. And there's an element of this fan base that are ready to go on you. The season starts. You just can't be hammering out when there's no games. They are hammering out, mate. You are on thin ice. So calmness won't wash when the season starts. I understand why you're calm now. Because, you know, it's nice. There's no games. There's no interviews. But you haven't got a lot of money in the bank. So being calm now. You need the preseason. You need those players in. You need a good transfer window.

47:07You need players out. You've got a tough start to the season. We're not moving quick enough. There's a whole load of bad will coming for you from last season. I wouldn't be that calm. So maybe it is just spin. But there is still time. I do agree with the striker. We can't magic a striker at the moment. Even if you want Mateta, you're going to have to negotiate for weeks. And we don't want Mateta. We want something better than that. Yeah. anyway uh just a just a just a just a just a a light note here i saw this and i thought i have to bring it into the show so um there was a little clip i don't know where steven gerrard was but it certainly wasn't in liverpool um because it was being translated some people would say it must have been in liverpool then no um he was doing some speech somewhere and they basically had a picture of frank lampard roy keen and viera behind him and he was asked which midfielder he would like to have played with now obviously he played with lampard a lot for england his answer was the player that suits me better to play me with would be roy keen and i absolutely agree with that i think gerrard and keen was never going to happen but 100 and to me that just the reason i bring in is roy keen's one of my favorite players and i think he's massively underrated as a footballer and he's almost seen as a you know an enforcer but he was actually a brilliant brilliant footballer And when you've got someone like Steven Gerrard putting him ahead of Lampard and Vieira, it just shows you how well and how high he was, how esteemed, how high he was held up by his peers.

48:39So I just wanted to bring that in as well. Do you think the players with bad attitudes, Rashford, Sancho and Ganacho, is a reflection on the club? Yes. Big man them. Yes. 100%. We haven't instilled respect, discipline and professionalism enough. The night after the Europa, we thought it was Armageddon and we would all be able to get is a couple of 10 million learner divers. It's not a total disaster, says Glen C. The Glazers will sell in the next five years. Lakers, Boston, Celtics are being sold at 10 billion at most. United is worth more when we have a winning team, 8 billion and they'll sell.

49:11Jay Law, I appreciate your opinion and we must respect it. But just to give my opinion, you've got absolutely no chance and I don't see in any way, shape or... I mean, that will instill optimism in some people. I just want to pop that balloon. I don't know where J-Law's getting that from other than his opinion. There is no evidence that we'll be worth$8 billion in five years' time. We won't even have a new stadium in five years' time. So they're not selling in five years. The stadium won't be built and they won't go anywhere until the stadium's built. When the stadium's built, you've got to pay for it.

49:47So they'll pay for it. They'll reap the benefits of that. I would say the Glazers aren't going anywhere for 10 years. And I don't think they're going anywhere for any more than that. I don't think their strategy is to sell. If you look at many franchises in American sport, some of them just get passed from family to family to family to family. So I don't see that at all. And not in the next five years. I have to give the alternative to that, Jay, because some people will hear what you've said and think, oh, yeah, yeah, I absolutely do not see that happening at all. with Sancho can't we just sell him and pay off the difference in wages why would it benefit him to run his contract down instead says Ryan because as a free agent you get all the money there we go okay thanks everyone for watching this morning fantastic show I really enjoyed it actually always nice to get a bit of info out of the club and also have a conversation with you lots I really enjoyed it I am going to be doing that Brazilian game at five o 'clock I'm having a Brazilian at five o 'clock so I'll be on that football for that um but um yeah thank you everybody this morning and uh we are where we are 74 % of you would not walk away from an Embermo deal but 26 % of you would there we go get in the comments speak join a bit take care

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