122: Osimhen REJECTS United Transfer!

0:01The United Stand Team: Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to The United Stand. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news as Victor Osserman rejects Manchester United. We want a new week. We want a fresh week. It's going to be like every other week, isn't it? A fresh snub for Manchester United in relation to their striker situation. Fabrizio Romano has also commented on the striker situation, on who we might be moving for as well. We've got a bit of an update on Bruno and Deleu and why they may not be back in training this week. We've also got some stuff on Sancho, Embermo and a few other bits as well.

0:35The United Stand Team: But it is the start of a new week. Manchester United are back in training. The transfer window is moving into its second week in July now. Man United will be on tour in a couple of weeks' time, by the way. We are fast approaching a new season and it feels like the transfer window hasn't even got going for Manchester United, doesn't it? But we're going to start off by talking about Victor Osman. This is a story that's coming out this morning and we can basically give you the updates on what's happening with Osman. He's not coming to Man United for a start and he's very highly, highly likely to sign for Galatasaray.

1:08The United Stand Team: So reports coming in this morning from Turkey, funnily enough, that Manchester United do want Victor Osman and have asked him about a move to Manchester United, which would involve reduction in wages. However, the striker has rejected this and Galatasaray are set to hold talks this week to finally finalise an agreement. In fact, this is what the Galatasaray vice president had to say about Osman. He said, Osman must decide as soon as possible. He always asks us for time. We respect that. He has a family too, but time does run out. We've made a much higher offer than European clubs. And at the moment, we are not negotiating for other strikers.

1:51The United Stand Team: We are not thinking about plan B. We want Osman. We have already spoken to Napoli too. Our goal is to build a team that can compete with teams from all over the world, not just in Turkey. We must be patient, but we are working day and night. What, what, what, what a brilliant feeling it must be to have a president who comes out and says, we're not thinking about plan B. We're working night and day for this player that we want to build a team around. And also, not only that, they've put into place sponsorships and branding to pay for Osserman. They're that desperate to get him in. Galatasaray, hardly a European giant, not playing in one of the top five leagues in the world, bending over backwards to bring in Victor Osserman.

2:39The United Stand Team: And what are Man United doing? Bending over. Literally. We are not doing anything. And I think that, I mean, look, De Laap, plan A, Jocheres, plan B. Even if Osman was plan C, it's a no. Where are we heading now? Where are we heading now? Fabrizio Romano saying this morning that Calvert-Lewin has been offered to Manchester United. So, look, I don't really know what's going to happen with the striker situation. What I do know is, what I do know is, is that when Galatasaray, and look, respect to Galatasaray in Turkish football. John Duran's going to Turkish football as well. I think it's quite an interesting league with Mourinho there and the dynamic between Fenerbahce and Galatasaray.

3:26The United Stand Team: And obviously, Oli's there with Buziktas, you know, they're ambitious. But fundamentally, Man United are one of the biggest clubs in the world, behaving like Leighton Orian, with all respect. we're missing out on top players. And the justification is we're in debt. Who put us in bloody debt? The people who are saying we're in debt. You know, it's just not acceptable. And when you're talking about Victor Osman to Manchester United, I spoke about this about three weeks ago. We were talking about the striker situation and what was actually happening. And obviously we'd missed down the lap. We were still hoping Jokeres wouldn't go to Arsenal and maybe we could have a chat with him.

4:06The United Stand Team: I mean basically what Man United did with Jokeres is if you're in a bar right and there's somebody you quite fancy but they're already in a conversation with somebody better looking than you and that person's in a conversation and they're looking around whilst talking to them you're sort of hoping that they're going to walk away and then you might be able to swoop in and then they walk off out arm in arm and you think that's it that's basically what Man United did we were just waiting to see if we could pick up what somebody else didn't want and that hasn't happened. But in relation to Osserman, the situation has always been, we're interested.

4:36The United Stand Team: But for Osserman to come to Manchester United, he had to do two things. Basically, say he wants United and nobody else and put forward reasonable wages. That was United's pitch. You've got to say you want us and only us and you've got to take a reduction in wages. Well, hello. What sort of logic is that? You're trying to buy one of the best strikers in the world and you're saying to him, you've got to take a reduction in wages. If you're Victor Osserman and you're looking at it and you're going, I like Man United, but have you looked at yourself? It ain't pretty. So you're asking me to risk my prime years of my career to come to you and take a pay cut.

5:25The United Stand Team: Listen to yourselves. You should be saying to me, come here, please. We will pay you a good wage because we're in a bad situation and it will be worth your while and we'll build together. You can't be saying to me, lose your prime years on a project that will probably fail and don't get paid very good money for it either. idiots, absolute idiots. I think we're walking around Europe. I think we're walking around Europe. We may as well, you know, it's a shame Gary Neville's on holiday because really, Sir Jim should have got Gary to walk around Europe with the negotiators, just press the button on his back.

6:02The United Stand Team: We're Manchester United. I think that's the only explanation for what our transfer policy is. We're Manchester United and some people like Osman and Kunya will go, yes, it's Manchester United. It's a dream. And some people will go, look at yourselves. I'm not taking a pay cut to come and play for you lot. If you want me, you can pay a fair price. And this is where we're going wrong because we spoke about this a few weeks ago. If Victor Osman's wage demands are 300 grand a week, we should be paying it. We simply should be paying it. And I know this is going to create a debate in the chat. I'm not bothered about that.

6:40The United Stand Team: That's not why I'm saying it. We should be paying the 300 grand a week for Osman for this reason. He could put you in the top five. He could put you in the Champions League and then you're going to earn£100 million for one year. So 300 grand a week compared to 200 grand a week is 100 grand a week. So 100 grand a week across a year is 5.2 million. you get 100 million for being in the champions league so the difference between paying a striker 200 grand a week and 300 grand a week is 5.2 million pounds but if you get in the champions league you get 100 million pounds so 5 million compared to 100 million and we're going now we're not paying we're already paying bruno 300 grand a week we're already paying mount 250 a week.

7:31The United Stand Team: We should be there at the front of the queue saying our offer is 300 grand a week and you get to play in the Premier League for Manchester United. That's what we should do. And all these prats out there going, no, I agree with it. We can't pay the silly wages. He either comes here and plays for 150 grand a week or we don't bother. Well, you see what you get for 150k a week. You are paying for a striker. You are paying for somebody to put the ball in the back of the net. And he's one of the best in Europe and he's experienced. 300 grand a week is what we should be dropping on the table. But yet again, we wake up to shit news that Man United would like Osman, but it's not their fault he won't take a pay cut.

8:09The United Stand Team: Why should he take a pay cut? Why should he take a pay cut? We should be pitching to him. Why should Brentford drop their price from 60 million for Mbamo when his price is 60 million? We're walking around with our head in the clouds with ideas of grandeur that make no sense. You can't go to good strikers and say, take a pay cup to come to Manchester United. You can't go to football clubs and say, give us a reduction. We're Manchester United. We're on our arse. We're on our arse. And we need to pay our way out of it. We're not going to get reductions. It's just so stupid. So if plan A was the lap and plan B was Jokeres and plan C was Ossiman, we officially are plan D desperation now.

8:52We'll have to just wait and see what the week brings. Zlazi says, We knew Jokeres wanted Arsenal. I understand why, but I'm still sad. I feel he was our last hope for top four. Panic by FC. Here we go. Last night's show was brilliant. Really, really, really good show. I was thinking about it last night after the show. And I was trying to find a positive around the striker. And I can't find one. I genuinely can't. You know, sometimes you sleep on it and you wake up. I can't find one. I was thinking if we're on the US tour or we start the season and we've got Oli Watkins. I hope he does well. But I already feel a little bit like Lukaku when we signed him.

9:31I hoped he did well, but I wasn't excited. And I think that's the problem. I haven't got excitement. You know what excites me the most about July? Is seeing that black kit come out. Like Seb keeps talking about it all the time. It looks like a really nice kit. That's the thing I'm most excited about this month. A kit that reminds me of the sharp view cam kit that Kanton A wore when he kicked that Pratt at Crystal Palace. that's the biggest excitement I've got I'm not excited about this transfer window anymore and that's really really sad really really sad and I hope some of you are excited I really do because it's not a good feeling I am not excited about Man United and the season hasn't even started and I don't know I don't think they can I don't think they can change that I think Embermo's a good signing I think Kunya's a good signing I think selling some of the players we're trying to sell is correct but we're not getting a goalkeeper we're not getting a top striker we're probably not getting a midfielder They're not rescuing this transfer window, in my opinion, and I'm not excited.

10:28And that's just, you know, that's nobody's fault. That's not Reuben Amrim's fault. That's not the player's fault. That's not your fault. That is the owner's fault, pure and simple. So I just don't feel excited. And also the Embermo deal, they've destroyed that. They've took way too long. They're going to take six weeks to spend 60 million, which they could have done six weeks ago. It's just terrible.

10:51The United Stand Team: I mean, Gotti says Nkunku coming. it doesn't even shock me as much as it would have done a week ago, because that's where we're sort of heading now. We are heading towards the Nkunku's. Like Nkunku, Watkins, Calvert-Lewin, they're all the same sort of thing. I mean, Watkins is the best by a long way, but they're all, none of them are like, Blachowicz, they're all just not exciting to me. They're not good enough. They're not good enough to take us where we need to be. United transfers, if United would have thought about the 9-11 attack, Like, OK, we're not going to talk about that yell. I wish it was an honour instead of...

11:25I mean, look, mate, I don't know how your brain works this morning, but at what point did you think using 9-11 as an analogy against United was going to make people laugh? Come on, think it through.

11:35The United Stand Team: All talk, no action. Typical Man United, says Kevin. Duma says, Oli's at the wheel. Let's just get that deal done because things aren't happening as we would have liked. Patrick Lynch says, in principle, wage structures are a good idea, but in this instance, it's a false economy. to challenge for the Champions League places we need top players so we need to buy top pay top wages it's penny wise but pound foolish I completely agree Patrick I'm not totally against um oh my god it's Monday morning I'm sorry there's some horrific comments coming in we've had one about 9-11 and then one I'm not even going to entertain they're just blocked get rid of them um horrible apologies for that um but going back to Patrick Lynch what a fantastic comment that is I think you're absolutely spot on.

12:18I think a wage structure is absolutely fine within reason.

12:21The United Stand Team: But when you finish 15th in the league and you're absolutely terrible, you can't sit there going, we're going to have a wage structure. You're behind. Principles go out the window. You need to attack. You need to catch up. Then you can put your principles in place. You don't start bringing in a strict wage structure, saying things like we only want players that want to play for Manchester United. when you're 15th in the league. You're at bottom. You're going to have to take a few risks. You're going to have to reach and grab things that you maybe don't want to grab. You're going to have to pay a bit more.

12:52The United Stand Team: Like, we're desperate. We're not on the level of an Arsenal or a Liverpool. So you can't sit there with principals going, we're Man United. You've got to actually go out and be aggressive to get back. And then you can say, we're Man United. And this is why when I see fans going, I don't want players like Jokeres who say that they only want to come here if we've got Champions League football. I said this two months ago. I ain't got a problem with it. Footballer thinks United are shit and doesn't want to go there because they're not in Europe and have got no bloody chance of being in Europe. You've got to convince them more than we're Man United and we won't give you a good wage.

13:28The United Stand Team: I mean, that's what we're basically doing at the moment. We're walking up to players and agents and going, we're Manchester United. And agents and players are going, you're not in Europe. You're looking like a really, really bad prospect. You don't look like you're going to be in the Champions League for five years. And you want my client to take a bloody pay cut? Have a word with yourselves. What you should have done is said, we'll pay you the best wage. Come and play for us and you'll get us back in the Champions League and we'll put a load of bonuses in there if you do. What you've actually done is said, we're Manchester United.

13:58We want you to take a pay cut.

14:00The United Stand Team: I mean, it's just ridiculous. Marlowe says, the annoying thing is that if United acted more efficiently early in the window, Jokeres and Osman would probably have seen as a better proposition. Now we just look like amateurs with no ambitions and a bleak future. We're also operating in a transfer window now, Marlow. It's going to lead to extortion. Like as somebody said last night, you're operating in the desperation weeks now. Everybody's back in pre-season. Suddenly these players that were looking for a move come back for pre-season and go, maybe I will stay. Maybe Ollie Watkins rocks into Villa this week and goes, maybe I will stay.

14:36And then it becomes harder to get them.

14:38The United Stand Team: it becomes more expensive to get them so yeah you know it's problematic can't see us finishing top 10 says Albi we uh we need that for Slazee really fed up with United transfer strategy says Tillak I think we cannot rule out deadline day deal for Nicholas Jackson for 65 million um I was thinking Colbert Lew into a Leeds Burnley and Sunderland not Manchester United wouldn't surprise me one bit though if they got him says like in trash do you think our lack of signings is potentially due to Amrim considering leaving, having seen what's going on at the clubs as KD. There's a bit of a conspiracy around that.

15:11I don't think so. I think regardless of the manager, we would have had a crap window. Sadiq has gifted five memberships. You're a legend, mate. Thank you very much. So you're saying we should pay 400 grand a week, says Nicholas. At what point is Osman's salary 400 grand a week? You glazer sympathiser. Hi, Mark. I listen to the show on Spotify while I'm at work, but why aren't all shows uploaded? Lidler from Australia. I don't know because I don't upload them, Michael. I think the morning show goes up.

15:40The United Stand Team: Isak's asked the worst question, but the best question. Who is your preferred striker now? Kick a man when he's down. So it's not Osman. It's not Jocarez. It's not De Lapp. It's not going to be Eketike. I genuinely don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. like we've messed this up so bad.

16:07I don't know. Mateta, I suppose, would be the one I would go for. Slightly younger, slightly cheaper, one year left on his contract. Maybe you get him for 40 million. He does a job for a couple of years. You progress Obi. I'd still keep Rasmus in this situation just so that we've got three strikers. Mateta, yeah. But it's not ideal, but yeah, Mateta. I mean, he's not putting us in the top five, by the way. That's unfair to expect that. But yeah, probably Mateta. What about Sesco? No. I mean, I've got to say Sesco isn't fucked up big time, hasn't he? You know, you've got a chance of a dream move to Arsenal and Arteta wants you.

16:49And now you're at Leipzig and they've bought Jocares and your chance is gone. I wouldn't be very happy if I was him. Adhawk, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much. And Dale Ways says, I'm literally losing all hope in United. Still hope for the fan base. Any chance of Mateta? We've not really been linked to Mateta, Dale, to be honest with you.

17:09The United Stand Team: I mean, I think it will be Watkins, but we've not really been linked to him. Just something I wanted to bring in just to move away from the striker situation for a few minutes. This has come in this morning. We don't know how true this is going to end up being, but this is coming in from the sun. and look I don't normally take any notice of the sun when it comes to anything to do with transfers but this is such a serious topic I don't want to sort of miss it in case it actually is true so apparently Manchester United have granted Bruno Fernandes and Deleu an additional week of leave following the passing of Jota a source said Bruno and Deleu are devastated and in a state of shock after attending the funeral Manchester United players have surrounded them with support they've been offered an extra week of leave in addition to psychological counselling sessions and emotional support um obviously that's these are young men um delo and bruno well they're a lot a lot younger than me um and you know grief can impact anybody um in a very very bad way um and if they need that then the club are right to step forward and put that forward.

18:20I don't think you can judge anybody on how they react to those sort of tragic instances. And, you know, captain of Manchester United or not, doesn't mean that you're going to be able to just go back to work and deal with the fact that a 28-year-old teammate has died. So those things are obviously very, very serious. And I've mentioned how it might impact Liverpool actually in the short term and those players. But, you know, you forget that actually Portuguese international, there will be an impact on other players as well. So, yeah, I would imagine that Saturday was a very difficult occasion for everybody.

19:04But certainly those who, you know, were close to the player, that sense of shock is still there in the world of football, isn't it? So, yeah, if those players are not in the headset, mindset to, yeah, you know, preseason, you're better off giving them some time away. Definitely. So whatever those players need. Absolutely.

19:30The United Stand Team: Kiel Robinson says, pay Osman what he wants in the way he wants, says Kiel. I feel bad for Amrim, says Rajaf. It's like hiring Gordon Ramsay and giving him a KFC kitchen and asking him to prepare a meal for the royal family. We should sign E-Zach, says Mo. Yeah, never going to happen. And I have concerns that Mbermo will now be the striker signing. Ahmad in the right 10, Deleu at wing back and the cheap desperate steals at striker, centre midfield and goalkeeper, says James Cave. Nicholas Lemkori says, at what point isn't it with Turkish tax to match them? It would be 400k. At what point? Yeah, but Nicholas, for the second time, you're talking like you are working on the deal for Osserman.

20:14The United Stand Team: You don't know what the deal is. You don't know what the money is. You don't know what it involves. And you don't know what Man United offered. My point is, Manchester United are very good at the moment. What's happening with Embermo? You can't deny on this. You can't say this is wrong. Look at Embermo. Six weeks. We won't pay the 60 million price. We're still negotiating. So you can imagine what shit deal we've offered Osserman if we've offered one at all. And what I'm saying is the difference between 200 grand a week and 300 grand a week is 5 million pounds a year. The difference between no European football and Champions League football is 100 million pounds a year.

20:57The United Stand Team: At what point do we stop being run like a bloody Excel spreadsheet and start running ourselves like a football club and realise to get back in the Champions League, you're going to have to spend money. This is the World Football Elite Club tournament now, and you get paid a lot of money for being in it. If you want to be in it, you can't sit there and go, we're Manchester United. We've won this tournament three times before. We're Manchester United. We're one of the biggest football club supported teams in the world. We're Manchester United. We should be in the Champions League. We're exactly what we were moaning about, about the Super League.

21:42The United Stand Team: Teams should not be in there on merit. You should be in there on ability. So how are we going to get in the Champions League, Nicholas? You're arguing about wages, but how are we going to get in the Champions League? Because I'll tell you very, very simply, we're not getting in the Champions League on a wage structure that won't allow us to buy good players. And you might not like that, but I don't know at what point United fans became Glazer disciples. I couldn't give two shits about Excel spreadsheets or wage structures. We need a team that's good enough to get in the top four. And I look at the likes of Zubemendi and Verts and Jocheres and Frimpon and them going to rivals of teams that are already better than us.

22:28The United Stand Team: And then I see certain people moaning, well, we can't give him 300 grand a week. I'd rather have Calvert-Lewin well don't bloody moan next season when you go and am him out we need the most obvious thing to do in this situation is buy as many good players as you can and they come at a price what you don't do when you finish 15th and you want to get back into Champions League is start buying people that are cheap and fit in with your wage structure you've got to take a risk otherwise you're going to fall into oblivion for a very, very long time. So look, even if you pay a player 200 grand a week and you pay them 400 grand a week, 200 grand a week across 52 weeks is 10 million quid.

23:13The United Stand Team: I'm not saying we should give someone 400 grand a week, but what I'm saying is people go, you can't give them 400 grand a week, but the difference between 400 grand a week and 200 grand a week is 200 grand a week, which is 10 million across a year. You get in the Champions League, it's 100. So this is what I mean. people go oh we can't we can't pay 300 grand a week for a player depends who the bloody player is don't give Jadon Sancho 300 grand a week but you might want to consider giving someone like Osman 300 grand a week and building in I mean to be honest with you I would give Osman 300 grand a week and I would say you can have another 5 million if we get into the Champions League because I'd be thinking the difference between not being in the Champions League and being in the Champions League is very, very big.

24:02The United Stand Team: You incentivise things. But I don't know what's happened to some of our fans over the last few years. It's like they've actually swallowed what the Glazers put out there about debt and finances. And as we were talking about last night, people talk about what Barada talks about and what Sir Jim talks about. Even Amrim talks about suffering and we've got no money and this, that and the other. Man United could sell their women's team tomorrow for 200 million quid, but you'd have to have 200 million quid to put it in. Chelsea had an owner that's got the 200 million quid and they need to find a way to get it in, so they sell the bloody women's team to themselves.

24:39The United Stand Team: Ineos could do that, but they don't want to put 200 million pounds in. And there seems to be people in our fan base who haven't figured this out. They just go, what's Sir Jim supposed to do? What's Sir Jim supposed to do? he can't do anything. It's FFP and PSR. No, there are loopholes to get the money in. He just don't want to put money in. And the reason he doesn't want to put money in is because he only owns 28 % and the Glazers never will put money in. So even if it just can't happen. If Sir Jim Radcliffe had bought all the club, he might do what Bowley's doing. He might, I mean, he might not, but he would have the option of doing it.

25:18The United Stand Team: But it's just this whole relationship between the Glazers and Ineos is ridiculous because they'll never put money into the club now. It will never happen. We won't try and be creative. Man United is a car with no engines, says Prank. Jokeres to Arsenal is on Amirim screwing that final up, says Hans. I'm willing to bet that they never thought of losing the Europa League final and that was the only plans, I suspect. 3-3-3. Mario says, we need to just offer him 300k a week to get Osman. We are not in a position for a wage structure we just need to offer anything and everything we need experienced as mario 24 you know what the funny the funny thing is as well talking about like oh i wouldn't give jokera i wouldn't i wouldn't give ozman 300 grand a week how much do you think it's going to cost us now what what what do you actually think is going to happen with the striker situation now because fabrizio romano said um i think it was this morning or late last night that calvert lewin has been offered to Manchester United.

26:15So imagine Man United go, oh God, we haven't got plan A,

26:21The United Stand Team: we haven't got plan B, we haven't got plan Z, we need a striker. And Amrim goes, just get me fucking Calvert. Just get me something. Get me Calvert-Lewin or a traffic cone. Just get me something. And Wilcox goes, well, we don't need a traffic cone. We can get you Calvert-Lewin. Get me Calvert-Lewin's agent on the phone. You get on the phone to Calvert-Lewin's agent and he goes, you go, what were you being paid at Everton? 100 grand a week. So 120 grand a week? No 110? No What do you want? 175 Oh Oh, okay We thought because like, you know, we're desperate And you're free That you'd be cheap No, he wants 175k a week He wants a 5 million pound signing on fee And I want 2.5 million as the agent Oh Can we negotiate for a few weeks?

27:13The United Stand Team: We can negotiate as long as you like. We're not changing that. See you later. And this is what people don't realise now. Not only do you not get your top three or four targets, you also don't get it easier with the desperation signings. If you pick up the phone to Villa now and you say Ollie Watkins, they go, wow, it's pre-season now. We were going to keep Watkins. We haven't got a striker ourselves. So if you want him, it's 50 million pounds. uh okay um get get me get me sellers park yeah yeah we we we really like mateta do you so do we yeah season's about to start isn't it he's our striker we're in the europa league so uh 50 million oh god i don't know ruben you know that about that traffic cone um so this is what people don't realize it's not only the depression of not getting our top three or four striker targets is the fact that everybody else we're going to have to pay for.

28:11And Calvert-Lewin will get a signing-on fee of a few million wherever he goes. His agent will get a fee wherever he goes. And his wage demands will be bigger because he's a free agent as well. There's no transfer fee. So Calvert-Lewin's going to be on at least 150k a week now, wherever he goes.

28:29The United Stand Team: And he's got hamstrings like breadsticks. So we're into that desperation area as well, aren't we? So, yeah, it becomes problematic. Look, could it be a big week for Manchester United just to digress and move a little bit? So, yeah, look, Jadon Sancho and Juventus. Some people are saying that that's going to happen. Look, Jadon Sancho leaving Manchester United just needs to happen. I don't think anybody even likes talking about Sancho because I feel like we got rid of him last summer and then we found out it wasn't an obligation to buy. So if we can remove Jadon Sancho from the club, that would be great.

29:07Whether it can happen this week or not, I don't know. Fearon says he's got hamstrings like cheese strings. So, yeah, look, Sancho might happen. Obviously, a lot of these players are not going to be back in preseason today. Rashford, Ganacho, Malassia, Anthony, Sancho. So it's in their interest to get things moving. We've also got the Mbemo story that's still going on. And I mean, you would have thought after what's happened over the weekend with Jocares that Manchester United would be going, we need a here we go today to spin a positive on a fan base that's really pissed off and we need to sell kits.

29:46But I don't know when the away kit's coming out. I've always said that's probably when Mbermo will officially be announced. so I would think that there will be some movement on Mbermo at some point but that deal I'll be honest the only comment I've got about the Mbermo on the Mbermo deal is that I'm actually really surprised by how long it's took I mean we always joke and say oh you know United they take five or six weeks but we actually do take five or six weeks and I'm actually shocked about how long it's taken to negotiate a situation that looked very very straightforward in relation to what Brentford wanted which is 60 million quid and it just feels like United have got themselves into a position now where they're trying to save face that they're trying to I don't know what they're trying to achieve really um in in very very quick summary because we all know his price is 60 million.

30:46We've never offered 60 million. We've offered 45 and 55 with add-ons. And it seems like United are just trying to prove a point that we didn't pay 60 million. So I almost think they'll get to a point where they offer 59. So that could be more delays. So I don't know what we're trying to achieve. I really, really don't. He should be at Carrington today training with the rest of the team. If Inter are looking at Rasmus, should we look at Turam or Martinez as

31:12The United Stand Team: Brandon. I mean, you make a good point. I always felt that if we bought Ossiman or Jochrez, I would be keeping Rasmus or bringing in a second striker anyway. We seem to have changed to, we're not going to get a decent striker, but let's still sell Rasmus. So Rasmus goes and you get Turan or Rasmus goes and you get Vlahovic or Rasmus goes and you get Watkins. I don't think that improves us. We need two strikers. And unless Obi's going to be ready at 17, which is a big ask, I think the whole striker situation has become utterly depressing, really. I can't help thinking we'll end up with Sterling, says Keel.

31:52I don't think anything's off the table now. I don't. Nkunku, Calvert-Lewin, Sterling, Vardy, nothing would shock me now.

32:04The United Stand Team: What about Ramos from PSG. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, you can't say no now because all the good options are gone. You can't hold out for Jokeres or Osserman. You can't. They're all gone. Should have took Jonathan David when we had the chance, says Drew. Can't sell, can't buy. Liverpool just lost a star player, still 100 % stronger than his. Dire time, says Junkyard James. Thank you very much, Van Gaal, says Tony J. Burton. Van Gaal's words ring out that we're a commercial club. sadly our owners prioritize merchandise and sponsorship over football like spurs do well i saw something the other day that apparently this week there is some sort of you might have even had an invite yourself there is some sort of um forum or input talks going on around the new stadium this week i mean what idiot arranged that in july during a transfer window i mean surely this is something you should be doing in April or September.

33:04But yeah, it is what it is. Chelsea have spent half a billion dollars in the last two seasons, whatever it takes to win. So United have FFP issues, but Chelsea don't. It's bizarre, says Jacob. Look, Jacob, never fall for PSR or FFP as an excuse. Loads of clubs have got that problem that they just sort it out. Talk That Real says, what about Eketike? you do realise Eketike will cost money. You can't just go from that to that. I think Eketike will end up at Liverpool anyway. Ilya says, I don't know why we are stressing. We knew the summer would be terrible after losing the final. We should just firm it.

33:47Club is a sinking ship, says Ilya. Sunderland are having a better window than United, says Matthew Robertson. I don't even know what Sunderland have done, but I guarantee they probably are having a better one. What about a hard reset, says Rory, back to old school Academy United and been off the expensive signings much longer term project. What old school project? What old school? So back to old school Academy United. You do realise we've never been Academy United.

34:19What Academy are you talking about? Because if you're talking about the class of 92, we were still spending money and we still had more than half the team that was experienced winners. so I don't know what academy thing you're talking about really. Jadon Sancho is closer to agreeing on personal terms with Juventus. Man United want around£26 million and Juventus are considering offering£21.5 plus add-ons. I don't know how we're getting£21 million for him and his wage. I mean, all I'll say about Jadon Sancho, couldn't give a toss, not interested in transfer but really interested to see how the deal works because they keep talking about us getting money which for me is great.

34:57we were beyond repair the moments the gym joined and not Qatar says Wozak Glazers put the Super League idea forward because they knew we would end up so crap we'd not qualify through the leagues says Anders and do you think the United border actually your fans and just love you ranting with their pants down rubbing one out says Unsocial really weird a few weird ones this morning Luke82 says not ideal but do you think Rasmus and Obi will have a better season with Kunja and Mbermo behind them rather than a greedy Rashford and Scranachio yes I do

35:25The United Stand Team: yes I do but I don't do you think that they will have a good enough season to put us in the top five I think we have to be in the Champions League next year I've been thinking about this a lot over the last few weeks and I think quite rightly there's a lot of United fans going we've got no chance of getting in the top six and you're probably right but I'll just say it now like we've got to be in the Champions League next year we can't mess about anymore we can't mess about we have to be in the top five next year. We won't be in the top five next year, but we have to be because the gap's getting too big.

36:02As I said yesterday, the gap is just getting bigger and bigger. Next summer, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City will be spending another 150 million knowing that they've earned another 100 million more than everybody else. We have to be in the Champions League next year. We're not going to be, but we have to be. And I don't think Rasmus and Obi are going to be the strikers that get us there, unfortunately. are we really surprised that we're not going to get, are we, sorry, Slow Sports News says, are we really surprised that we are not getting the players we want? We need sales to make up for our mistakes and make up for mental wages.

36:35And once again, McAlvis says, once again, the foundations of a manager's failure are being laid in the summer. It happens every year. Well, that's true. Keel says, chances are they sack Amram and keep Rashford and co. And look, I thought about saying this on Saturday, but I didn't want to annoy everybody. if I was a gambling person and somebody gave me good odds at the moment I'd put a tenner on Rashford being here longer than Amerim right here right now and I know it seems ridiculous and I might get decent odds of like 10 to 1 but I'd put a tenner on that at the moment that Rashford's actually outlasts Amerim and I know a few things need to happen for that to happen but what if Rashford goes on loan and Amerim's sacked by Christmas and then the next manager says come back so i don't think it's beyond i really don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility and that's how horrific this football club is now because you you could you could you could logically say i can see rashford outlasting amarin um obviously if he goes on a foot proper deal this

37:38The United Stand Team: summer he won't but nothing nothing nothing would surprise me now nothing would surprise me i don't agree but I see Rashford at striker next year says Henry I really don't um if if Amrin put Rashford back in this team he may as well sack himself he looks like an even I would say it if Amrin brings Rashford back he looks like the weakest manager we've ever had and he may as well resign like he would look that would be we may as well change our name to Rashford United because the manager would have lost all power in front of the whole world. So I can't see that happening.

38:17Arshan, I'm not going to talk about it. There's a few weird comments this morning for a Monday. I don't really know what it's on about. The problem, how long will it take to get a striker, says Sadiq? Ray Carl-Branamore, hope you're doing well this morning, Ray. Says, I congratulate the club on that. Both Bruno and Deleuwe are young men around Jota's age and it's devastating and they do need time. Well, the club's always been quite good at that. I mean, remember Jadon Sancho wasn't injured. We gave him three months off in a big season. So, I mean, look, the clubs run badly, but I'd be very surprised if they weren't looking at, you know, supporting people who are struggling mentally.

38:50I mean, that just goes without saying. AFCON period worries me with Osman and if Mbemo. Well, don't worry about Osman, Paul, so that's not going to happen. I would go for Samu from Porto if the price was right, says Isaac. and why are we acting like we can even afford a striker without selling an actual Rashford? There's a reason why we're penny-pinching for Embermos, says Chuffbridge. Wage is about£215. Surely£275 would do Osserman, says Methane Man. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know what the actual figures are in relation to that, to be honest with you. Sorry, I've just been told something here.

39:27I just want to just double-check before we move on.

39:35No, that was not it.

39:41Yeah, that's sauce on Sancho's crap, by the way, but I wouldn't be surprised if he does sign for Yaventis this week.

39:55I don't, yeah, somebody was saying, what do you think about the Agate hate? Apparently he put a post out yesterday and a load of people were getting in on him. Look, unfortunately, we've got some very vile people in our fan base who turned on him straight away and gave him a nickname um i don't think these people are real um i think they're doing it for clicks and likes i think that's what they're doing i don't think they actually support manchester united really um i just think it's all a big game for them because they're supporting your football club and then there's just creating toxicity and i don't really understand what agate ever did wrong um maybe they didn't want to sign agate but i don't understand what he ever did wrong.

40:34He was brought in without a pre-season. He had a reasonable first season, a few ups and downs. It doesn't come across as a knobhead. And yet we've got people in our fan base that just give him shit all the time. And I think you're not really United fans, are you? Because you've never given him a chance. And that's not what this fan base is all about. I never wanted Fellaini. I gave him a bloody chance. I don't want an honour. He's been given two years. Yes, I don't really understand the Agate stuff. And look, Resto says he's not good enough. That's not what we're talking about, mate. We're talking about the abuse and the fact that no one's ever given him a chance.

41:09And last time I checked, you're not Pep Guardiola or Ruben Amrim. You're just a guy with a YouTube account saying he's not good enough, the same as I'm sat here. You know, your opinion, this is a new player. He's had a difficult first year and you're sat there saying he's not good enough, like you're the Oracle.

41:26The United Stand Team: It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he has a really good second season. And also, I think every signing should be given two years. What world is it that we write players off before they've played a game or six months? Every signing needs two years. There's so many examples of players that start badly and end up being good. Evra, Vidic, Gravenberch at Liverpool, Fabinho at Liverpool. These players had bad stars. um so you know and also we're not buying anybody else anyway so it's that it's that petulance and waste of oxygen that people moan about something that we're just not going to do it's like people who say sell the low what a waste of time that is we're not selling the low so you're just moaning about you're creating an issue that's not an issue because it's not going to happen and whether it should happen or not it's not going to happen uh nick p says i really want amram to pull a Jose on tour.

42:21And I really read that as I really want Amram to pull off Jose on tour, which I just realised I did read back to you, which it wasn't what was said. So Nick P says, I really want Amram to pull a Jose on tour and let us know the season is done. I didn't get my targets. Sadly, I think he's more likely to be a yes man now. Mentioned this a couple of times. Eric Ten Hag in his first year, very vocal, very, we need to do this, we need to do that. Second year came back, timid, diluted, company man. Amorim, very vocal, very good relationship with the fans up until the end of the season. Let's find out what Amorim we get now because I think he needs to keep the fans because there are fans that aren't with him.

43:06The media isn't with him. And if he comes back a Glazer guy, he'd be gone. He'd be gone very quickly. He's got to keep the fans on board because you can't trust those owners. What quality strikers would be available in January next summer? Says Nick.

43:26The United Stand Team: What's the relevance of that? You know, you remind me of the journalists on September the 1st who put the article out when we've had a shit window. Next summer, you're not... I mean, Luckhurst does it every year on September the 1st. next summer Man United are going to buy half the Real Madrid team it's just just spin what does it matter about January next summer this summer's open now uh with the players that have left and the players that will leave after that sorry Shane says with the players that have left and the players that will leave will that over 70 million a year saved on wages why can't we get a top striker says Shane and John says by Christmas odds are we'll be in the same boat searching for a new coach meanwhile Chelsea spend get fine don't care and just keep spending more uh according to sport What billed, Bayern has agreed personal terms with Diaz.

44:13This is the United stands, not Liverpool. Sadiq, oh, that's football. We might talk about it on there. This is the business we prefer to do in the summer, says Yanni. Yeah. Yeah. In January, United will say we don't do business in the January transfer window because we prefer to do it in the summer. And in the summer, they don't do it. If we were the best team in England and needed another striker, Osman is the type of quality we'd go for. To refuse him where we are now is crazy, says Ian Tracy. Swap Sancho for Vlahovic, worth the punt, said... Who said that? Henry. Thank you very much. Katie says, have you seen that Ineos made year-on-year losses from 2023, and this is due to debt financing?

44:55Owners can put personal funding into a business, but it seems our owners don't and won't. Very concerning. Thank you very much for that, Katie. Ratui golden boot winner. Atalanta, Sir Stephen. Not linked to him. Rash, race. Then again, you don't know. We might pivot to something we've not been linked to now. As I said, I think Mateta is about as good as it gets now. Tony says, United are like the emperor in the emperor's new clothes, strutting around town with their chest out like the big I am, where in reality, everyone can see them for what they are while sniggering and laughing. Sir Tony, thank you very much.

45:31I really want, I've done that one from Nick P. Vlahovic time, one year left on his contract. I don't get this Vlahovic obsession. And if we sign him, I'd be doing well. But I'm going to say from day one, I think he'll be a flop. I don't get it. I don't get it. But there are a lot of you in the chat that are obsessed with Vlahovic. I don't think he's all that. In a summer where there are so many strikers available and so many people want strikers, nobody's looking at him. I don't think he's all that at all. I think he's a hipster's pick. I don't think he's all that. But if we go for him, I hope he does really, really well because we 100 % do need a striker.

46:12But I'd go Mateta now. But even that's not going to excite me at all.

46:21The United Stand Team: I mean, I look at the striker situation at Manchester United and it's incredible. It's incredible how we've dropped the ball so big. you've got Plan A, De Lappe playing for Chelsea you've got Plan B, Jokeres at Arsenal you've got probably Plan C, Osserman who we won't pay the wages for so he's probably going to go to Galatasaray you've got Eketike who's too expensive so we're on Plan E already or actually can we go back to Plan D because it's Plan Desperation as I've said many times before this is just unforgivable from Manchester United I mean, we are a football club that can't score goals. We can't score goals.

47:03The United Stand Team: We've had our worst ever Premier League season, our worst ever Premier League points total by a huge distance. And we've gone into a summer transfer window having lost the cup final to Spurs. Nobody loses cup finals to Spurs. So we're lower than low. We have a crap Premier League season. We lose a cup final to Spurs. Spurs sacked their manager for winning the cup final. That's how crap we must be. we then go into a summer transfer window where the striker is the absolute essential thing. Even we know we've probably got Inanna in goal next year. I mean, has anybody ever thought about that? Inanna is going to be in goal next year.

47:42The United Stand Team: So we know he's going to mess up and let loads of goals in. So not only do we need a striker, we really need a striker because we know who's in goal. So we need goals. And what are Man United doing? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The most important signing of the summer and they're doing nothing. And on top of that, this position that's so important, plan A, B, C, D, forget it. So whoever we get, the whole world knows and the fan base knows, this is not even Amrim's top four. So this essential position that we have to buy, we're not even going to get one of Amrim's top four targets. And this is the position that's going to make or break our season because goals, surprise, surprise, breaking news, goals win games.

48:41The United Stand Team: And United are there scratching their arse, negotiating for five weeks for a £60 million player that is£60 million and we can't afford to do that either. It's shambolic. It's so shambolic. But the striker thing symbolises the real issue at Manchester United. The two big positions were striker and goalkeeper. We're not changing the goalkeeper. So goals are going to go in. The striker will score the goals and we're not even going to get one of our top four targets. So excuse me for being a little bit concerned about where Man United are heading. And on top of that, you just know it could be anyone from Jamie Vardy, Nkunku, Calvert-Lewin.

49:26The United Stand Team: I mean, look, I don't really want Oli Watkins. But if we start negotiating with Villa for Oli Watkins, we might get that deal done by 2030, at which case he'll be 35. and it's not worth it. So I'm stunned. I'm stunned by the striker situation, apart from the fact that this football club has turned into an Excel spreadsheet with a bunch of wallies walking around, tapping their fingers on calculators, trying to figure out interest rates. It's a joke. It's an absolute joke. Football is so simple. It's simple. You score more goals than the opposition and you win the game. And the more games you win, the higher you finish in the league.

50:03The United Stand Team: And the higher you finish in the league and more money you earn. And if you finish in the top four, you get£100 million more than everybody else. So if Osman did want£300k and you only want to pay£200k, that difference of£100k a week over a year is£5 million. £100k times 52 is£5.2 million. You get£100 million for being in the Champions League and United are going, yeah, we'll give you£200k, but we're not giving you£300k because we've got a wage structure. You absolute idiots. You absolute morons. A striker like that could get you in the Champions League and earn you£100 million and make you relevant again.

50:44The United Stand Team: You're saving£5 million by not paying£300k and paying£200k, but you don't get him anyway. You're idiots. Absolute bloody idiots. You've got to spend to be successful in football now. Now, where United fans go wrong, some of them, they go, well, we've spent 10 years spending. How did that go? We spent badly. It's not the spending that's the problem. We spent badly. We spent a billion pounds and we may as well have put it on a bloody bonfire. It's not spending money that's the problem. Real Madrid win Champions Leagues by spending money. Man City have won multiple Premier League titles from nowhere by spending money.

51:22The United Stand Team: Chelsea have won two Champions Leagues and multiple Premier League titles from nowhere by spending money. Liverpool have just spent over£100 million on Virts by spending money. There is this strange, weird nonsense around United that, well, we've tried spending money and that didn't work. No, we've tried spending money badly. Maybe we should spend money better. If you go and spend£300 ,000 a week on one of the world's best strikers, fine. That's the sort of thing you should do. And if it goes wrong, I think we'd all sit there and go, that was unlucky. The problem is spending ridiculous money on players that aren't bloody worth it.

52:01The United Stand Team: It's a mess. Absolute mess. Best in class, my arse. Robert McCormack says there's got to be a reason no one wants him, though. Robert, that's probably the worst comment you've come out, and it's only Monday. What? No one wants Osserman. Well, they do. They do. There's literally four or five teams that want him.

52:28The United Stand Team: It doesn't actually fit any Premier League club apart from us. He wouldn't suit Liverpool's system. Arsenal want Jokeres or Cesc. Man City don't need a striker and Chelsea won't buy anybody over 23. So if you're trying to say Premier League clubs are avoiding him, actually, he doesn't suit them. Newcastle don't need him. Villa can't afford him. so that's why he's not going to another Premier League club

52:55is there any chance that if we don't get a striker this summer and get Mbema that he'll play the striker well of course there is Liam there's a chance that Rasmus will stay or Zerksy will play striker is a difference between 6th and 15th says Garfield as I said to you a few minutes ago I think for me when I when I look at United at the moment I'm just very disappointed and very disillusioned and I'm not excited. And many of you probably will still be excited and I think that's great. But I agree with Garfield. I think the one position, the priority position for me was a striker. And I think if you got an Osman or a Jochores, I'd have been excited and gone, you know what?

53:31We're absolutely shit, but there's hope. If they hit the ground running, they could fire us into top five. I don't see that now. I can't see any signing they're going to make that's going to make me go, we can get in the top five race. I just can't see it at all. Maybe sixth, maybe seventh, but I can't see it now. I think the fire's gone out on that hope. I hope I'm wrong on that, but I really do. Remember when people were saying Xerxes wasn't good enough second half of the season, he turned it round, says Steve. Yeah. I'm more worried about the goalkeeper situation. If Anana plays another season like the last, we'd be in a relegation battle, says Patrick.

54:08Thank you very much. Okay, look, I could go on for hours. I've realised I've just done an hour, 10am show and I normally do 45 minutes. So great show this morning. Thanks for the conversation.

54:21Look, we might still be talking about Mberma one Friday. Something somewhere needs to start happening with United. It's another week that we're heading into. I mean, we'll probably just get an interview with Amrind, won't we? But something needs to happen. Do you not reckon United should give Xerxes another chance, Joe? Not up front. I don't think he's a striker. Play him as a 10. I don't think he's a striker. Thanks everyone for watching. I'll speak to you all later.