125: Barca WANT Rashford! Amorim MUST Sell to Buy!

0:00Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to The United Stand. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. As Barcelona go all in on Marcus Rashford and Hansi Flick gives a green light. Is Ruben Amirim about to start the thing that I want to question today whether he knew about when he took the job? He has to sell to buy. It's very, very simple. We'll be talking about that. We'll also be talking about the striker situation. Oli Watkins, a centre-back, been linked to Manchester United as well. A few other bits too. Obviously, we're probably going to talk about Mbooma.

0:34We do every single day. I also want to ask a very important question of you and of Manchester United because I think last night's show, the feedback was so good. It was spontaneous. It was heartfelt. And it was a fantastic show. Legendary, some of you said. I don't regret anything. I may well have had a couple of pints, but I don't regret anything because when I just, I want to talk about the Rashford thing, but look, can I just read you this? I don't know how this happens. I mean, I think it's poor reporting, actually, that we're so focused on Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc. This is Sunderland transfer window so far.

1:11Enzo Le Fay from Roma,£20 million. Diara from Strasbourg,£30 million. pounds, Siddiqui from Union St. Glees, 15 million pounds, Telby from Club Bruges, 18 million pounds, and Adingra from Brighton, 21 million pounds. They've spent in excess of 100 million pounds, Sunderland. They've had a better window than we've had in the last 10 years. Yeah, we need to have a chat about this. Kiel says it was an amazing show last night. I've dropped the link for the members club in the chat because so many people were saying I'm going to be a member for life after the last night's show, you've convinced me.

1:45So I need to watch it back. I don't remember much about it, but I don't regret anything. I said, I know I called to Jim out. Good. Anyway, let's get into the news because there is some news coming in this morning. We were struggling a couple of hours ago, to be honest, but we do have news coming in this morning. First of all, we're going to talk about Pletigol has just said this, but this is not the more credible story here. I'm going to shout out the more credible source in a moment, but this has come out from Pletigol this morning Barcelona want to try again for Marcus Rashford and are prepared to go all in he is that now their number one target now as we know with Rashford there's a bit of a funny story uh come in from the Manchester Evening News about him and Amrim at the training ground yesterday um but as we know he wants to go to Barcelona and as we know Barcelona wanted Nico Williams he ended up signing a new contract at Athletic Club.

2:40They want Luis Diaz, but apparently he wants to go to Bayern. So Rashford, by default, becomes their number one choice, apparently. Very, very lucky. Very, very lucky. Look, some people were saying in the chat he's lucky. I don't give a toss if he's lucky or not. At the moment, it's looking very, very good for him and Barcelona. But actually, the better story to lead on, and we have got a bit of a Sancho story coming out as well, which I'll talk about in a moment. But I am just going to read out what, look, get your words out. Get your bloody words out. What are you talking about? Matteo Mereto.

3:21He is somebody you need to probably take notice of. He has worked with Fabrizio Romano. He is a very good journalist and I've completely lost his tweet now, which is my fault. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Here it is. So, Matteo Mereto has said this, and he said it at 10 o 'clock last night. Barcelona continue to keep the Marcus Rashford file open. New contacts are expected in the coming days. Hansi Flick has given the green light to his arrival. Rashford prioritising Barcelona, and the negotiations could progress in the coming weeks. It is a live option that may become increasingly concrete.

4:07Now, if you don't know who Matteo Moreto is, he works with Fabrizio. He's an independent Italian journalist. He's actually very, very good. A few days ago, he was talking about Nicholas Jackson to AC Milan. And Fabrizio literally is now talking about AC Milan and Nicholas Jackson. So he's good. So look, it's a positive, positive bit of news at a time where I think everybody is at the end of their tether when it comes to Manchester United. The thing I would say is, I don't want to bring the mood down, is we just don't know how long this is going to take. We don't know how long this is going to take.

4:49Zia, you just caused me massive panic, Zed Zolt. He said, I will laugh so hard if you drop a bid for Nicholas Jackson out of panic. Oh, God. I've never even thought about that. But look, going back to Marcus Rashford, obviously he wants Barcelona. If Barcelona want him and they lock in on him, then yes, it might take a few weeks, but it could take a few days if we dream. I'll take this this morning because as I said it's very very obvious that Rashford wants to go there but I think he wasn't their first choice he wasn't their second choice so where was he going to end up going if he doesn't go to Barcelona yes there's an element of luck there yes it's his dream move yes he can go and prove a point don't care don't care don't care just get him out of Man United because it's what he wants it's what Amren wants and we need to move forward because I can absolutely see what's going to happen.

5:44All that we're going to get for the next few weeks is every bloody journalist asking questions about when's Rashford going to train, when's Ganacho going to train. And, you know, I would say shame on those journalists. Like, these are players that the whole world knows need to leave Manchester United. Why would you waste questions about them? Like, I would be asking questions about the strategy around this transfer window. Why was Ruben Amrim given a job in the first place? Did he know he was going to have to sell to buy to get players in? Why is he being treated like that as a new Manchester United manager?

6:14Where is this pre-season that everyone preached about? Where are these new signings that everyone knew you needed? So yeah, I don't look forward to the next few weeks of constant questioning about players that we know need to go. And the sooner they move on, the better. And obviously I think it's better for them. I mean, incredible story coming out last night that to the minute, I think Marcus Rashford arrived at Carrington to train on his own at 4.45. through the back gate and Ribbon Amrim left at 437 through the front gate. So it just needs to stop. We need to stop this scenario very, very quickly.

6:52It's embarrassing. It's a power play. It's in the papers every bloody day. We're meant to be Manchester United Football Club. Can somebody start grabbing that most important thing back? Because I don't think anybody actually gives a shit about that. And that's what most of us do care about. we need to rescue our football club back and its integrity and you know a player that needs to be sold coming in through the back door when the manager's gone out through the front door it's just embarrassing it's absolutely embarrassing especially when we're having a summer transfer window like we're having um and i think that rashford's position is somewhat strengthened by the fact that we're having a crap summer transfer window okay kunya's took his shirt but we haven't done a lot more than that have we really so look hopefully there's going to be something in this.

7:37I think the big thing I would say is that Mereto is a good journalist. I would hope that he's got that absolutely spot on, that Flick has given it the green light, that Rashford is now Barcelona's priority. That's one hurdle jumped. And then the next hurdle becomes how long is it going to take? Because Barcelona might want a loan. They might pull this on for a long time. So I would hope that that's going to change very, very quickly. Let me just check on yeah volume's gone really low again oh that's because of the interview of n jacobs yesterday i'll knock it whack me why didn't anyone say about the volume last night i did a whole show with it down at that level thank you very much for the person who mentioned volume um george mitchell says hypothetical comment because united don't do anything at the moment trozard seeming to become available with arsenal's business would you take him nope well i would take trozard but i suppose actually i would george probably i would i just don't like being that you know that that club um that takes everybody's you know sloppy seconds so to speak and um but we are that club we're definitely that club um hi mark i hate how we're getting lied to like for example the sancho obligation to buy and that barada was ceo at man city when he actually wasn't says david yes very very good david um look look just on that very very quickly before we move on to the next story i think this is really important obviously we're talking about it's a new show and i prefer the eight o 'clock shows at the moment.

9:01I don't know about anybody else. Obviously, we cover news throughout the day, but eight o 'clock show is more opinionated and debateful, whereas the morning show, we do go through the news and give opinion. I much prefer the eight o 'clock shows at the moment. I think last night was great, but we've had so many over the last couple of weeks that have just been really good. However, I do just want to throw this in because I think this is important and I think it fits in with everything. If you've tuned in a little bit late, I didn't realise that Sunderland have bought six players, some of them 20 million, some of them 30 million.

9:35They've spent over£100 million. That's Sunderland, newly promoted, being ambitious and trying to stay in the league. They probably won't, but they're spending money. The top four and now Spurs are spending money. Manchester United are the most embarrassing football club in the Premier League in relation to status. We've had the worst season in relation to status. Nobody had a season as bad as it was in the Premier League last year, by the way. I know Ipswich got relegated and so did the other two, but everyone expected that. Where we finished, we absolutely had the worst season in the Premier League out of anybody, contextually.

10:12Spurs finished slower, but they won the Europa League, so that rescued them. We had the worst season out of anybody in the Premier League when you look at who we are. And yet, in the summer transfer window, we're doing nothing. that's the reaction to being the worst team in the Premier League contextually so my my big question is this yeah we can keep moaning etc etc but I would love to know and and this is a question for Ruben Amrim to those journalists when you took the job I would phrase it like this Ruben um lots of criticism of the board in relation to how they've dealt with this summer transfer window.

10:49Very, very challenging. Everybody knows it was a bad season. Last season, you lost the final. Very, very clear that there needs to be lots of changes and that's not been evidenced in this summer transfer window so far. There's lots of talk of sell to buy. When you took the job in November, were you told you needed to sell to buy players? Did you take this job on the understanding that if you wanted to rebuild the team, you had to sell players first and if Amram says no the club looked ridiculous and if he says yes I would then follow it up with so you took a job at a football club that you know doesn't suit your style and then you also took that job on the understanding that if you wanted to change the players you needed to get rid of players that you'd not bought from a football club that you know is bad at selling.

11:41You must be on very good wages because you're definitely setting yourself up for the sack, mate. And that to me is the question. That's the question I want the answer to because if he willingly took this job knowing this, and I know he'll never give a clear answer to that, Mac. I know he won't. And there's a second part to this. But if Ruben Amrum took this job knowing that he had to sell to buy he's a fool he's an absolute fool because he doesn't sell the players why would you speak to Sir Jim Radcliffe and say I really really want this job and then Sir Jim says yeah you can rebuild the team but you need to sell the players first I would never take the job never take I'd go no I think I'll wait till the summer and see what Man City do I think he's been lied to personally I think he's been told that yeah there'll be there'll me money for you in the summer and then there isn't that money I'm absolutely convinced that no manager would take the job being told you've got no budget unless you sell players because you'd know they're not going to sell players for you and therefore you've got no budget so I think he was lied to I also think that what is really bad about Manchester United is the inability to take control I look at Bayern Munich I look at bloody Real Betis Napoli so many of these clubs have presidents or sporting directors that communicate through the press to their fans.

13:08Manchester United's communication this summer transfer window, again, is abysmal. And I don't know why we have so many ex-players, journalists, who don't discuss this. It always seems to be people like ourselves. It's almost like knock on the door and if they answer, can I have an interview? like the communication from that football club is disgusting the institution it is the power it holds the revenue it makes the audience it has and it refuses to communicate in any way shape or form with that audience like essentially the biggest problem is this summer transfer window is that everybody is guessing do we need to sell to buy then even though we put a bid in for Mbermo at 55 five why can't we go to 60 is it because we need to sell a player to get the extra five are we just stupid is there any money after that if we'd sold ganacho two weeks ago would we be buying a striker now um you know is this part of the strategy to be desperate at the end of the window there is just no communication coming out at all and that leads to guesswork frustration in the fan base as well i just think it's just they just mismanage the whole situation really right I mean, I actually find myself, I don't know about you, by the end of last season, if I'd seen another Amarim interview, I think I was ready to, you know, go on a long walk.

14:38I'm desperate for an Amarim interview now because he's the only one who bloody talks. And if he got a couple of decent questions, you might actually get something out of it. Zidi says what's your thoughts on a Maduweke transfer I just think it makes Manchester United look really idiotic again you know add it to the list you've got Gibbs White going for about 60 something million pounds he's on the same page as Embermo you've got Maduweke going for probably 55 I think he's not as good as Embermo you've got Kunye going for 62 that same page as Embermo you've got Alanga going for 55 not as good as Mbermo um so his price is 60 million and and we just keep getting more and more evidence of it every single day uh apart from United think that he's not worth 60 million I mean if I was Mbermo fair play for for being patient because what Man United are basically saying to the world is you're not worth 60 million quid um I mean they're obviously you know looking after Mbermo in a different way but effectively they're saying to the world you're not worth 60 million quid and he is and you know he's not his best option is Manchester United his best option is not to say stay at Brentford of course not and he doesn't have another option now because Newcastle have bought Alanga and Arsenal have bought Maduaki so where would Mbamo go if he didn't go to Man United he'd have to stay at Brentford so you just got to stick with it and this is what people don't realise oh you know Mbamo's getting frustrated he might be getting frustrated but he hasn't got any other options now.

16:11The clubs that wanted him have bought other people. The incredible thing is, at the start of June, Arsenal, Newcastle wanted Embermo and he prioritised Man United. We haven't bought Embermo yet and Arsenal and Newcastle have bought their replacements. How embarrassing is that? Those two clubs wanted Embermo, they've bought the replacement quicker than we've bought Embermo. So no, Embermo may well be frustrated, but he hasn't got another option you know you're not going to want to stay at Brentford now he will want to come to Manchester United but I would be frustrated if I was him because I'd be like I'd be looking all these players that are now in pre-season with their new clubs he's going to want to be raring to go and effectively he's not wearing a Man United shirt because the club aren't willing to pay what he's worth but he'll wait it out he'll wait it out clubs like Barcelona and Bayern are very good at communicating with fans it's actually a requirement with how they're set up consequently they are way better at reading the room i agree with you emily yet again a fantastic comment uh you basically are better than robert mccormack um but robert will be watching um i think you're absolutely correct it's it's something that i don't know why it fails i mean our experience with the club is up and down there are some really good people in there and there are some people that you wouldn't even know worked there without searching them on LinkedIn.

17:38It's, you know, it's incredible at times. And I'm not going to start chucking names out. It's not fair. The people who, the people who I speak to unofficially and officially know who I'm talking about and I've got a huge amount of respect for them and they work really, really hard. There are certain other people that work in departments that should be communicating with people like you and I who do sod all. And I think they're very, very bad at their job. but I think Emily has absolutely nailed it again um for whatever reason they they fail to respect this fan base occasionally they'll give a certain journalist an interview or they'll give a certain set of fans access or they'll speak to a certain set of fans in a fan forum I mean that that that bloody fan forum is the biggest joke in the world by the way it's a group of people who we don't really know who they are who get invited in to have a chat with the club and then we don't really get any information about it either uh robert mccormack's fuming um it's it's done so well at clubs like barcelona by munich dortmund etc they they want to be part of the fan they want the fans to feel part of the club it's part of their dna and at united they just want your money basically they just want your money they don't care who you are they really don't they are business people and they are mercenaries um what do you think about chamini for 78 million pounds as chicken curry i think uh chamini for 78 million pounds is the same as akatike for 80 million pounds uh we don't have that money absolutely not i actually saw a story this morning coming in from actually two Portuguese stories so it was a bowler basically saying that a nacho at sporting is of interest for Manchester United with a 50 million euro price this is a player I said back in February keep an eye on left-footed centre-back in an area of the pitch where Man United could probably do with a little bit more experience I know we've got Aidan heaven but he's still very very young and he's had a couple of injuries i like heaven but i don't think we could say he's a starting left-sided center back just yet um he's still got a lot to learn and he's still got you know he's got to stay fit um martinez is a bit of a unknown quantity this season again he's got to stay fit so and also this is a former sporting player that's played the system so yeah i definitely think that reuben amrin would be wanting to bring a player like this in but the facts are we won't bring him in I think Dortmund are going to get him because we don't have the funds to do it like it's the same as the goalkeeper I'm absolutely convinced that Ruben Amrim would love to bring Anacho in from Sporting or Diamande in from Sporting they will both leave Sporting but they won't come to Manchester United it's like Kenda it's like Jokeres all these players that Ruben Amrim made into exciting talents he won't get other clubs are going to reap the benefits of Ruben Amrim's work.

20:39Not the club that's actually trying to build a system like Sporting, where these players would fit us like a glug. No, we don't have the money to do it, so it won't happen. Connor says, the Ineos grip is so tight that we're falling further and further behind. Having this board hierarchy has destroyed our club. How many sign-offs to bid for a player? Says Connor. Look, Robert McCormack is a glazer, says Rod Reno. Oh my God, I don't know. I don't think Robert's that bad. I think Robert likes Rashford and he likes Harry Kane. I think that's as far as his controversial opinions go. I don't think he's pro-Glazer, to be fair.

21:16I've shared beers with Robert and I would not do that if I thought he was pro-Glazer. So I don't think he is pro-Glazer. He might be pro-Sergim maybe, but I don't think he's pro-Glazer. Yeah, going back to what Connor said there about the Ineos grip and the club falling further and further behind and how many sign-offs to bid for a player um this is this is this is part of the communication issue though isn't it because absolutely what i'm about to say there'll be somebody in the comments saying you don't know that and then if i was in the comments i'd go yeah but you don't know that the theory is that the reason teams like sunderland are buying so many players and spurs and everyone like that is because they've got cash on the hip it's a new financial year and they've got money.

22:00The question is why are Man United not doing that? Great, great reveal from Ben Jacobs on the show yesterday. It was a really good show actually, because there was some hidden Easter eggs in there that we didn't know. Like Jadon Sancho got offered 180 grand a week by Chelsea and he turned it down. We didn't know that. We knew the rumor, but we didn't know it. So that's really, really interesting. Jadon Sancho didn't go to Chelsea because he didn't like the wage of 180k a week. He's not worth 180k a week. So where's he going to find this money? He's not. Also, as I was talking about at the start of June, because we bought Cunha in June, a lot of people were like, that gives us more money in July because the financial year ends at the end of June and we've just paid for Cunha in it.

22:47Well, we didn't. The first installment didn't hit till July. So the Kunya payment is coming out of this year's budget. So new football financial year started on July the 1st. We've already spent 22 million on Kunya. It wasn't in last year's figures. It's in this year's figures. So is that a good thing? Is that a bad thing? Well, come see, come saw. But what it means is 20 million has already been spent this year on Kunya. um so but in a new financial year you have a new budget not a new budget you have a new limit and therefore if we're not buying players in a new financial year it's not because we can't do it because of ffp it's probably because we can't do it because there's no money in the bank which leads me to believe in everybody else that if it was june you might have some money but you might not be able to do it because of PSR or FFP, but we're in a new PSR FFP year now.

23:49So there is freedom to buy, but we probably haven't got the money to do it without selling. So there is no sale on the horizon at the moment. So I think we're heading towards maybe not as good, but I think we're sort of heading towards an Anthony Casemiro summer where deals are going to get done once the season started, which is quite scary when your first games Arsenal by the way and your fourth games Man City and your fifth games Chelsea it's quite scary to be thinking it's a good idea to bring players in when the season started but that's probably the way it's going Captain T says this 4.3 million Sancho story is easily solved pay him the 5 million Chelsea fine and get him gone surely that was paid into last year's accounts too as well i haven't actually um looked at the sancho story yet but let me uh look at it here um jayden sancho's entourage had a positive meeting with ruben amerin's side earlier this week since then man united have reached a basic agreement with juventus for around 20 million euros sancho also agreed a salary offer of 6 million uh euros per year is that the story we're talking about or is there a new one that doesn't say anything about paying him off um let me have a quick look oh okay here we go jayden sancho has an agreed on a personal terms with juventus and man united have also reached a basic agreement over the transfer fee however there's a tug of war with sancho and united with him wanting a 4.3 million severance package Yeah, but you know what?

25:33I'm never going to defend Jadon Sancho. But I actually, it's a bit like Brentford. I agree with Brentford wanting 50, 60 million for Umbermo. And I agree with Sancho wanting 5 million. Harry Maguire did the same. We agreed a deal with West Ham. I think it was about 30 million. We agreed the deal with West Ham. West Ham made the offer. Maguire was going to go he just said I've got I'm on 200 grand a week at Man United to go to West Ham I'm on 100 grand a week so if I'm going to go I want 5 million and United said no so he said well I'm not going then I'm not taking a bloody pay cut to help you out to help you earn 30 million quid and he was right and I can't be a hypocrite Sancho's right Why should he take a pay cut to go to Juventus so Man United can get a transfer fee when he's on double that wage for another year and it'll be free in a year?

26:34So I don't like Sancho and the way he's behaved, but he is right to demand a severance pay because he's got a year left on a good wage. But it's United again. We're not always. In fact, what I'm finding more and more is there are villains, but we're not not a villain. You know, we can dislike some of these players, but when you're actually fair, Brentford aren't the villain. We are. Sancho may well be somebody you don't like, but he's not the villain in this case. He is entitled to say, you gave me a contract for this period of time on this wage. I'm not going to halve my wage to help you get a transfer fee.

27:16You can give me some of it. but we're a business and that's how we work um junkyard james says sancho needs to work a trade job for a week uh he'll see his real value fast yeah but you know what mate none of these footballers live in the real world i mean there's very few of them that you can go and have a pint with or a meal with and have any sort of real conversation with them they're just living in a bubble since they were kids um you know some of these some of these kids are getting boot deals and signing on fees at 14 and houses for the parents it's it's they ain't they ain't got a clue what it means to graft properly and they you know this is the world we create in a way you can criticize that in a way that they're a victim of the world that's created around them uh greed you know uh and there's a lot of greedy people around them as well you know agents family members etc the entourage takes them away from real life even more um i always think the best footballers are the ones that have people around them that you know give them grounding and speak to them in a proper way um kevin says so that basically means we had 100 million to spend from this financial year god we're definitely broke uh chuff bridge says we're paying five players we've tried to sell around 800k a week in wages if we can't sell until the end of the window that's 7 million i don't think they want to add 1.5 million in that time period on imbermo to an already bloated wage bill says chuff i think this is a good theory actually very good um captain says i totally agree but man united need to act what is our financial standing after the new financial year are we still broke says trey and unfortunately i don't have an i have access to a united's account so it's pure speculation but we won't have loads to spend um robert hudson thank you very much for your super chat he says how does the club get away with putting match ticket prices up after that horrible season and not putting their hands in their pockets just going to be another joke of a season robert um we have to blame ourselves for that the reason they the reason that they can put their um the reason they can put their um ticket prices up is because people like us buy those tickets you don't have to pay if somebody says oasis are in concert tonight and the ticket price has just been doubled.

29:37Give us your bank details. It's up to you to give the bank details. People pay it.

29:46Yes, the club are disgusting for upping the prices, but are we not foolish for paying them? The Ineos grip is so tight that we've done that one from Connor. Sean Turner says, so Jim needs to pump cash into the club. You don't buy a failing business and not put cash flow into it. If United become successful, they'll earn more, says Sean. Yeah, it's a strange strategy to buy a football club and then try and make it make money when it was already in debt by making more debt uh sorry by cutting costs why don't we activate the buyback for alvaro's perry because we don't have any money what do you think i've done that one as well don't get the madawakey hate arsenal used sterling says irish overseer um anders says united need urgency for emberma whizzer is on the agenda for a few clubs and brentford will be reluctant to sell both Yeah, spoke about that last night.

30:37Apparently, according to David Ornstein, Forrester moving fast on Whizzer. I mean, look.

30:45Has anybody actually thought about how they would feel if the Brian and Bermot deal didn't happen? Yeah, furious would be the word, 100%. Yeah, absolutely furious. but I also think that

31:10surely I get the words out right surely we're going to get to a point where we find out what's happening with this quickly because if Forrest if David Ornstein's talking about something it's advanced so Forrest are bidding the Whizzer and Brentford accept that bid, then we'll find out very quickly if the Mbermo deal's off. So hopefully, or, or, if Man United had a bloody brain, the minute you saw David Ornstein say Forrester bid for Whizzer, you put 60 down on Mbermo. I mean, that's what I would do. You know, I would move very, very quickly. So look, in no way, shape or form do I want to be held to this.

32:00But surely there's a chance that we're going to get resolution of the Mbermo deal in the next day or so. Because if Ornstein's talking about Vizza to Forrest, and that was last night, Man United should be on the phone this morning saying we'll pay 60. But I don't know. Natty says hey football friend I hope United does well this season I'm tired of being a joke most of my bros are Liverpool fans close Embermo deal for fuck's sake says Natty Mark what if Brentford wants 60 up front that could be the hold up I don't think Man United could do that says Jason I think you're making stuff up Jason to try and justify a situation that's you know pretty obvious we're never paying 60 million up front we've never offered 60 million and And I don't think Brentford have ever asked for 60 million up front.

32:52They've asked for 60 million guaranteed. We've only offered 55 guaranteed. So I would offer 60 million and see what happens. If they say no, then something strange is going on. But we haven't offered what they've actually asked for yet. We're six weeks from there's no value in the markets as Pete. And if we need to sell to buy, then Bruno had to be sold. I mean, Andres, it will keep coming up. I'm not going to disrespect it. If we needed to sell to buy Then why didn't we sell Bruno It's a great point It would have made us Very very cash rich It would have been £100 million up front And it would have been In the club A month ago But Amrim didn't want To do that remember Maybe Amrim was told By the club If you sell Bruno You've got£100 million Straight away And if you don't We're going to struggle This summer And he went I'd rather have Bruno Ronald Tuttle says If he is that desperate He should have sold Bruno As well that would have been a lot more impressive and made a bigger statement uh he didn't want to do it didn't want to do it uh Patrick Lynch says the last week has really been an eye-opener fans being treated like mushrooms it's not Manchester United FC anymore it's Manchester United PLC we're just consumers to them and we're not fans I think the biggest problem is Patrick is that there is no recourse for behaving like they do and apart from you know and I'll put my hands up and I'm sure some of you will angry fans going crazy about how badly the club is run it actually doesn't cause them any problems they're in a bunker deep underground and they're not bothered so that they don't there is no kickback for anything they do there is a lovely kit coming out in a couple of weeks that everyone's going to buy Onana was shit last year his his kit sold out all the season tickets have been sold out we have the worst ever Premier League season ever and nothing look if all you're bothered about the best way to explain Man United and Patrick's done it really really well think of it like this if you run a restaurant and every review page gives you one star but at the end of the month you're still turning a profit are you going to be bothered about the reviews?

35:11And this has been going on for years. And you read the reviews again and they're getting more and more aggressive and more and more angry. Why are people eating at this shithole? It's disgusting. I've seen roadkill more appetizing, but at the end of the month, you're still making profit and you're still growing. Why would you care about the reviews? They're not damaging you in any way. and that's the same with United if you're Sir Jim Radcliffe or you're Joel Glazer do you really care about what people are saying about you because you're still making money anyway and this is the problem when you look at clubs where changes has occurred when you look at what happened at Liverpool or any other club those owners had to change they had to change because if they didn't change, problems were coming for them.

35:59And therefore, they were forced to change or sell up or whatever. At Man United, the Glazers have been here for 20 years. Most of that time, they've faced abuse, criticism and anger. And it's never caused them a problem at all. The only time they panicked was when the Liverpool game got called off. And look, I can say this in the summer, and it doesn't really matter because there's no games. But the only thing that ever made them shit themselves was when that Liverpool game got called off. Protests, used to it. When that game got called off, they shit themselves because they were like, if these fans can get games called off, they're more powerful than we are.

36:47But that's not going to happen again.

36:54and in a way all we are left with is hoping that we get proved wrong because they don't listen and they're not going to listen and they don't listen because there is no reason to listen they're still making a load of money they're going to make billions out of this government project and all they have to put up with is a few people online saying they're shit at their jobs and they and what they're doing. And he's going, Champers, another five billion coming in in five years. We'll see who knows what they're doing. And the glazes are the glazes. So Patrick's absolutely spot on. I think some people really do think that surely they're going to sell up.

37:34They can't put up with more criticism, but the criticism doesn't hurt them. Sir Hain, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much. Sancho wanting a five million severance package is grim, says Matthew. What about the countless weeks we paid you to play FIFA and chill in the Netherlands did Ineos invest in United to destroy it I don't get why they got involved in the club I don't see a way back I think they got involved in the club Amaru because Ineos are not Manchester United fans Ineos are a company with shareholders so Jim Radcliffe would have sold it to Ineos on the fact that they're going to make a lot of money out of it when they build the stadium it was a it was a cash grab Ineos should to replace negotiators before the summer window.

38:14Let's hope the other deals are lined up after Mbermo deal is done. Need to act fast, says Amrik. I like your positivity, Amrik. I don't know what these deals are that you think we've got lined up after Mbermo because most of the good players are gone. Arman says, so basically the whole of July will be spent buying Mbermo and selling Rashford. August will be spent selling Ganacho, Anthony and Sancho. And towards the end of August, we'll sign whichever strikers are available. Nice strategy. Arman, I think you've just pretty much predicted the rest of the summer transfer window to be honest look we're nearly we're nearly in the middle of july now pre-season starts a week tomorrow we never do any business on tour so then the season starts then it's international break time and the season's you know the transfer window closed i think you've probably predicted it um little on quality says out of curiosity if madrid did play uh play a swap plus cash for uh alvaro would we just receive much less also have you heard of winners uh i haven't little low quality no i i may i had a few drinks last night i've got a little bit of a headache and i haven't got the time to think or consider what you're talking about madrid player swap plus cash look all i would say is strangely there are people out there and i quoted somebody yesterday adding up all the money we're earning from sell-ons but don't get don't stick your nose in a beehive and not expect to get stung you're talking football finances here like we're not getting 8 million from Newcastle for Alanga we're getting two because that deal's being done in installments so 55 million for Alanga is being paid in installment so 15 million maybe year one goes to Forest we're not getting eight we'll get ours back in installments as well but people are adding it all up and go we've got another 40 million to spend on all that no we haven't we've probably got about another 10 because we'll get that in installments as well Hypothetical comment, because United don't do anything.

40:11I've done that one from George Mitchell about Trozard. Sancho needs to have done that one. The Glazers have won. They've convinced fans to sell our best player for cash just to bail them out, says Ryan, but we didn't do it. We should have sold to the Qataris, says Kelvin. We have an owner who loves the club, yet it seems like he's trying to actively ruin us. If he loved United, he would have let Qatar buy us, says Alex. I think the strange thing with Sir Jim Radcliffe is he's not like a guy in his 30s, is he? um born in the 30s uh i bloody wasn't actually but um so jim magcliffe's about 72 isn't he so let's say he was born in the 50s um that's actually not relevant to the story but my point is i mean look he's a billionaire he looks after himself he could have another 30 years on the planet could live till he's 100 but you don't know how long you're gonna get when you're hitting your 70s.

41:05You could have 30 years. You could have 10 years. You never know how your health's going to go. Everything is doing at United. The thing I don't understand about Sir Jim Radcliffe is everything he's doing at United is really... I would be like, I haven't got a lot of time. I'd be doing the Todd Bowley thing where, okay, we're making risks. We're selling this. We're selling that. But I want to be at the top as quick as possible. I haven't got time to mess around. but so jim seems to be doing everything slow you know let's build the stadium and and i'm like doesn't actually fit in with your next sort of 10 20 years of your life mate like all right bloody murdoch's still alive in his 90s isn't he running his empire but i would have thought so jim would have been it would have been in a would have been in a bit of a rush and everything he's doing is very slow and projected and planned and wrong.

42:02Them glazed donuts will profit from any success we have despite how poor they've been as owners. And that's the biggest problem if we want them gone. How would you get rid of them? Can I say anything? Within reason.

42:18I mean, it has been said before, but And I don't know whether this would work, but if I could make this fan base do anything, but I had to get rid of the glazers, I would strategically attempt to get every single home game cancelled and away games. Delayed, postponed, whatever. I would do that. Fulham away in London. You know, I'd strategically try and find out what hotel they're in, just cause chaos, basically, so that we start getting fines from the Premier League, this, that and the other. I would also coordinate a far more intelligent and strategic approach to disrupting sponsors and merchandising and sales.

43:16And then third of all, I would create a sustained and methodical, relentless media campaign that united everybody with one clear goal, backed up by evidence. and just keep at it, i.e. that we are doing these things because you'd be projected as hooligans. When we got the game, when the people who got that game called off, they were projected as hooligans. What there should have been was a statement to every media outlet straight after that saying, we're not hooligans. The hooligans are the Glazers. We are taking back our football club and we refute. and also I would get the support of clubs like Liverpool's supporters club and other football clubs so that this was actually about not just about Man United it's about football that's why the Super League thing worked well because it was all a football and you know I would not have allowed the BBC or anybody else to call Man United fans hooligans I would have said we're not hooligans we're taking back what's ours they've run it into the ground for 20 years they've destroyed it nobody's done anything about it the Premier League's let us down the media's let us down the owners have let us down we feel we're in a position now where we have to take this action and if you want an interview with us after everything we do we'll give it and we'll explain it we're doing this to get these people out we're not hooligans we're not silent we're not hiding that we're doing it and and that's that's what i would do but it's so hard it's so hard to do and we it's so hard to do um uh rohit says our strategy is to find loan clubs for players sign one player at the start and then the other at the end and by two years these would we need to find club for the ones we sign now it's cyclic says rohit has sir jim already failed this rebuild before it even started says chicken curry or is he just another glazer in disguise with a better accent i think it's a good question mate um is there a way back i i believe there's always a way back there's always a way back you know in anything in life i mean i mean there's not a way back if you get bloody run over by a steamroller but um and a lot of things there's a way back and there's certainly a way back from this point with for sir jim and inios but i don't see any evidence that they're doing the right things to find a way back.

45:56We could spend£500 million this summer transfer window and be mid-table at Christmas and everyone would go, oh. So signing players can go wrong, but you just have to keep doing it. We definitely need new players. Doesn't mean they're all going to be a success, but we definitely do need new players. But the fact we're not doing that it worries me i don't think if i if i was the owner of man united i would be shooting from my hip my bad hip saying we're in a hurry it's very obvious what's happening in football there's no point lying there's no point pretending it's very very obvious what's happening in football you've got Chelsea in a Club World Cup earning£100 million in a tournament that nobody really watched or understood and they're earning£100 million from that because FIFA are chucking that money in.

46:53You've got the Champions League which is like the Super League now where just being in it basically earns you between£70 and£100 million. We're not in any of these tournaments and we don't look like being in any of these tournaments and we can't afford not to be. We can't compete with clubs who are earning that amount of money every season and we're not. We're in debt. That debt's not going to go anywhere. We need to build a stadium, but we need to be successful on the pitch. The new stadium and the debt will sink us if we're not successful on the pitch and we need to be successful on the pitch now.

47:29So we've got to be creative. We've got to be brave and we've got to take risks because we cannot afford not to be in these well-paid tournaments that are going to keep happening year after year after year that to me is just a statement that should be coming out of Tottenham Aston Villa Newcastle Man United but we're not doing anything about that we're not doing anything about that we're not actually showing in any way shape or form a pathway to getting back in the Champions League and then next year we'll get the same again I was looking at like look let me see if I can find this because to me this was just unbelievable um unbelievable i'll read this um you will you will you will like it so well you might not like it actually you might hate it but it's really important to just consider that why is it when i want something it doesn't appear for me here it is it's almost like you know when i'm not live it would be there in front of me and now i am live it's like let's slow down let's not do it here we go so arsenal signing so far the bemendy nor guard kepper madewake obviously they want jockerez they're still linked to rodrigo and that center back mascara that's quite a long list um brighton have actually bought four players in already.

48:59I didn't even know about. Burnley have bought loads in. Chelsea, De Lapp, Estevão, Pedro, Gittins.

49:11Liverpool, Verts, Frimpong, Kirchges, and they will do more, obviously. Man City, Renders, Altnori, Cherki. They'll probably do more as well. Tottenham, Tell, Kudos, Gibbs-White. They've just been linked to as well so these are all clubs in a better position than us and they're all doing good business um they're gonna do it again next summer that's my point they're gonna keep doing it year after year after year after year after year and um what's our approach polish a turd basically it's the end of the day i've been in business for a long time and um you know i've invested i've put money into businesses jampers and um i've uh i've i've tried lots of different things and that's why i'm a billionaire the approach i'm going for at manchester united is what i like to call the uh polish a turd approach um so you have a pile of shit you know you pop down tesco you get a you get a can of mr sheen and a cheap duster you come back home you let the sun bake it and then it's quite hard it's still shit but it's easier to polish and you can get quite a nice finish champers and if you do it right on a really hard sunny day the shit becomes really hard you spray it you rub it and it starts to look shiny and you can pass it off as chocolate mousse and that's what I'm trying to do here you know just convince people to eat it and think it is chocolate mousse.

50:52And if they pay for it, even better. We can do this on mass scale because we've got loads of shit. So if we can... The polish is cheap, the duster is cheap, and champers. And then we can do it with a lot of shit. And if you can get people to pay for that year after year, then we could make a lot of money and champers. And, you know, that's the strategy I have here, really. Just, as I say, I just call it polish a turd and sell it as chocolate mousse. It's not that difficult, you know. Jay Lloyd, welcome to the members club. Christian as well. Thank you very much. Ineos put the final nail in the coffin, says Jacob.

51:41Look, I'm actually, look, the Rashford news, if true, is positive. It's just when he's going to go. And I'm hoping the bid from Forest for Whizzer will prompt us to do the final bid for Embermo fast. Because if we don't, we could end up with nothing on that one. Yeah. Thanks everyone for watching. Feeling very tired today. But there is an 8 o 'clock show. And obviously if anything happens, we will react. Fantastic community. Loved the show last night. If you didn't watch the show last night, for whatever reason, you really need to go and watch the 8 o 'clock show from last night. Lots of good feedback on it.

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