126: Amorim's SHOCK Next Signing! NEW Sancho BID!

0:28Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. because apparently they've just put a new clip out of a goal of Xerxes scoring in training. I mean, they're just not serious, are they? They're not serious. We were mocking this last night about how United put pictures and clips out of what's going on on training and they've done it again, apparently. Can I just tell everybody, right? If a footballer scores a good goal in training, times it by a thousand, it's happening at Juventus, it's happening at Arsenal, it's happening at Bournemouth, it's happening at Celtic. They're all scoring good goals in training.

0:59We're not cooking in training because Man United's Twitter account is putting out clips of us scoring goals. Everyone else is doing it. What's basically happening is you're being mugged off. You're being fooled. It's PR. They're basically repackaging what they've got and pretending it's good enough when it wasn't good enough last year. Right, let's get into the show anyway. I want to start off with something concrete. I want to start off with something new. So Juventus are offering Manchester United a transfer fee of around£8 million with a further£4 million in add-ons for Jadon Sancho. There is still negotiations to be had around his transfer fee though.

1:38And it's not known whether this means it's a cheap price from Juventus so they can pay Sancho what he wants. Or whether Man United get£8 million and still have to pay Sancho£5 million, therefore getting£3 million themselves. what's very very clear about the Jadon Sancho transfer because I want to move on to more interesting topics very very quickly is that the price keeps coming down so it was 25 million then it was a straight swap for Douglas Luiz who they want 30 million for then it was 15 million then it was Sancho wants a five million pound payoff and now it's eight million with add-ons and I don't include add-ons I'm not going to be a hypocrite the the offer for I read it this morning in an outlet that we've offered 62 million pounds for Mberma.

2:21We haven't. We've offered 55 with add-ons. I don't know why people include the add-ons. It's funny when Arsenal sign Maduweke, it's 52 million pounds, but everyone knows there's some add-ons there. But when Man United are involved, the add-ons become part of the deal. It's not part of the deal. Unless you know what those add-ons are, they're irrelevant. It's what the baseline figure is. So we're being offered£8 million for Jadon Sancho from Juventus. The price keeps coming down. If it's£8 million and we don't have to pay him anything, I would take it. If it's£8 million and we've still got to pay him off and we're going to get£3 million, I would still take it.

2:56At the end of the day, do you want Jadon Sancho on our books for another year? I don't. At some point, you just got to go, we messed up big time again. Let's just remove the problem and stop wasting time for a couple of million because we've already wasted long enough on this. Somebody at Man United, in fact, some people at Man United, the scary thought is, are actually their job. You know, like if you're the boss of negotiators and you're going, what's your job today? I'm still working on the Sancho job. Yeah, me and Steve, we're still working on the Sancho job. What, like I've been for the last month?

3:31Yeah. So I could have you working on other stuff, but you're working on that. Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yeah. We're running out to Turin now. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the problem. We're wasting time on it. So look, I would hope that this deal can get done very, very quickly because we're just wasting time on somebody that I don't see as a Man United player, if I'm being completely honest. Daniel Derbyshire, welcome to the Members Club. A brilliant show. Mark, big up the United stands. Hey, mate, Tusha, the eight o 'clock shows are legendary. I was watching last night's show back again a little bit this morning with a coffee.

4:02and yeah, I'm really enjoying the 8 o 'clock shows because we don't have to be driven by the news and we can just get real conversation going. Somebody just said, can you check Man United's Twitter? I think I've already seen it. Happy birthday to Luke Shaw from the NHS, National Health Service. Pinned tweet is 16th of the 7th, 25, which is Wednesday. Oh, 10 minutes ago, Joshua Zerkesi, what a finish. I've seen that one before.

4:43I'll wind them up.

4:51If you all go on their tweet now, then I'll be the top one. I've said, sign some players and stop rehashing content from four days ago.

5:07repurposing repurposing if you're not watching live just go to man united's twitter account you'll see the goal that's that's four days old as well i've seen that i've seen that goal already and he's not being marked by a defender and you're never doing a real game um they'll block you i've been trying to get him to block me for years mate they won't do it because then i can gone blocked um anyway moving on let's talk about the situation with uh where should we go next should we go jokeres or we should we go midfielder we'll go midfielder because there's more to it so basically this is in this is in the manchester evening news this morning uh um manchester united obviously talking about the embermo bid uh united submitted a revised bid of 60 million just over a fortnight ago.

5:52No, they didn't. This is just client journalism. This is just poor journalism. The Manchester Evening News understands United submitted a revised bid exceeding£60 million a fortnight ago. They didn't. Stop being PR for Manchester United Football Club. Tell the truth. We didn't put a bid in exceeding£60 million. We put a bid in of£55 million. Stop using add-ons to make it sound like Brentford are bad. We've offered 55 million, the same as what Newcastle are playing for Alanga and Mbumo's better. Brentford have said it's not enough. They want a bid that exceeds that. 60 million is believed to be what it will do.

6:32Another number nine heavily linked is Jokeres, blah, blah, blah. However, the Independent has claimed in their latest newsletter that United's next priority will be a new central midfielder once a deal for Embermo is agreed. There's been a lot of noise about Man United and strikers, but the feeling is the next priority once Brentford's Brian Embermo is secured and it seems to get closer every day. Yeah, I'm kind of just picking on that. I genuinely would just want to share that feeling. And I'm sure we can all hold hands virtually around the world through the internet here. I can't move my other hand in.

7:11Why am I moving that one? I can't figure this out when I'm looking at the screen. What am I doing with my hand? And this one, there we go. I can't do it. I couldn't figure it out. I was moving the other one back in. Let's hold hands around the world because I think we can all agree that every day we feel like we're getting closer to Brian Mbermo signing for Manchester United. Every day for the last 50, I feel like I'm getting closer. I do not feel like it's getting, I'm being sarcastic, look it up. I do not feel like we are getting closer to signing Brian Mbermo every day. I do not feel like that at all.

7:46I don't know whether I feel like we're getting further away. I don't feel like we're getting closer. I'll tell you how I would describe the Brian and Bermot transfer saga in relation to movement. I don't know what it's like outside the UK, but as a kid, I live in the Midlands, or if you live in Manchester or Liverpool or whatever, the south west of England is quite nice. You've got Cornwall, Devon, lovely beaches. weather's hit and miss but if you get good weather it's great so a lot of families will go down to Cornwall in the holidays etc and if you if you time the traffic wrong it's a bloody nightmare so as a kid you're very excited about going on this holiday and you know your dad has as missed time the traffic um it's a hot day you want to get down there because it might not be hot in an hour's time and um you're stuck on the m5 about three hours away from your destination in gridlock traffic.

8:43Your dad's losing his shit at the wheel. This is pre-Sat Nav. No one knows what's going on. You're hot in the back and you're like, I know at some point we probably will get there, but we're not moving and we're frustrated and I need the toilet. This is exactly how I feel about Brian and Vermo. I feel there is a destination that we're not going to turn around from. We can't turnaround. We're stuck in traffic, but we're not moving and God knows when we will move. So I don't feel like we're getting closer every day at all. I feel like there was a very obvious route to take and we purposely drove into a traffic jam.

9:20So I do feel that Mbemo will happen, but I don't feel like we're getting close. Anyway, I digress as I always do, because that's not actually what I was going to read you. So there's been a lot of noise about Manchester United. This is from the independent, direct quote. There's been a lot of noise about Manchester United and strikers, but the feeling is that the next priority once Brentford, Sobrien and Bermot is secured, and it seems to get closer every day, is a central midfielder. Central midfielder. There is interest in Sporting's Hulmland, Jumland, sorry, I'll remember that now. There's interest in Sporting's Martin Jumland.

9:54There is also interest in Bayern Munich's Palinha and palmeiras richard rios as almost it almost as almost goes without saying they of course need to sell first buy-in maybe in the same situation however uh which is what makes the palina interest intriguing the lamentable injury to muzziala means they have to go back into the market and that could create a few openings um so look i moved to the chat i moved to the chat because i'm a massive fan of Richard Rios. I think a lot of the people in the chat are a fan of Richard Rios. This is a story in The Independent. I can't remember the last time The Independent, and I think the journalist who wrote that was Miguel Delaney.

10:40I can't remember ever saying the words in 10 years, what a scoop on a Man United transfer by Miguel Delaney. So I've got to completely and utterly make that clear to me it feels like an outlet that is putting two and two together and making five knowing that it will excite us because there is nothing more i would like than to see manchester united bringing in a yulman a palina or a rios and how would you rank those three players if you if you if you if you have to like start bench sell you know first second third whatever you want to call it it's not school sports day they don't always get they're not all getting first we're not we're not in a 2025 school sports day um for me i would go i think Yulman's probably the best i think he is the best i just don't think he gets the publicity i would go Yulman number one Rios number two and Paulinho number three i think Yulman is better than Rios i just think Rios at the moment is the more hipster choice and i nearly went for him But when I think about it, Yulman is better and he's played the system.

11:48But he's too expensive, too expensive. So he would be out of the equation, which leaves Polina or Rios. And it has to be Rios. It had to be. It would have to be him. But we don't get a lot of information. But what we have had over the last four months is, and I must remember what was said about the midfield. I know we had the Inanna, the De Lapp, Smenu, Yoro, Ganacho. Midfield, yeah. So midfield, what we were told about the midfield was, and I can't remember when we told you this. It was May or maybe it must have been before June because they were away then. United have got, yeah, Amerim wants a midfielder.

12:29He wants a midfielder. It's a very important position. When you look at sporting and that midfield and when you look at the Premier League and how you need a midfield, we do need a midfielder. He does want a midfielder, but he also wants a bloody goalkeeper and a striker, and he's nowhere near getting any of them. With the midfield, you cannot justify it. Look, imagine you're Euban Amrim, right? And you're talking to Jason Wilcox, and then you're talking to Berrada, and you're going, the goalkeeper ain't good enough. He thinks he's playing volleyball. A shot goes towards him. Instead of putting it out for a corner or palming it to safety, he's putting it back in the danger zone.

13:01He thinks he's playing volleyball. He palms it back, so he's ready again. He's a prat. And you're going to put him in goal for me next season because you can't get rid of him. So what chance have I got of getting a midfielder then? Well, none. You're not in Europe. You've already got five midfielders. Unless you sell somebody, you're not having one. But I can't sell anyone, can I? No. Casemiro's running his contract down. You said no to Bruno for£100 million. You're trying to get Mane one on your contract. Agate's going nowhere and Collier's a kid. So there's the answer to the question on the midfielder to me.

13:30I like the story and I like the constant talk of signing midfielder because I completely agree with it. I completely agree with it. But my stance on it, and from what I've heard, is that logically, look at how we've behaved in this transfer window. If we buy a midfielder, I'd be very, very surprised because we've already got five and they're all earning about a million pounds a week combined when you add their wages up. So we're just not going to bring a midfielder in to sit a 300 grand a week midfielder on the bench or two or three. So, well, we haven't got three, but you know what I mean. What I mean by that is you could start Agate and Rios, and then you've got Bruno and Casemiro on the bench.

14:14We won't do it until we sell somebody and we can't sell a midfielder. So, again, I completely agree. Much like the striker market, the midfield market is really good. It's a really good market in the midfield. And next season, when we maybe do try and sign a midfielder, it could be rubbish because it'll be the World Cup and everyone will be focused on the World Cup. The World Cup in a year's time is going to be, and nobody's mentioning this, by the way, this summer transfer window, I have to say this, this summer transfer window, and nobody's really talking about it, just talk about it. This summer transfer window is perfect.

14:52It's almost like, you know, like the one day in the summer that's perfect. It's just the right temperature. There's a bit of a breeze, no rain, no clouds, just a just a perfect day right this summer transfer window is a bit like that there is no tournament that's really impacting us i know the club world cup's going on but there's nothing really impacting us there um pre-season everyone's going to be back for it's amrim's first season he could have an amazing pre-season if we had the players the market's really good in every position there's goalkeepers center backs midfielders strikers there won't be another summer transfer window like this and I've seen nobody write about it which is just shit journalism like this this summer transfer window is perfect and we're messing it up and if I hear anybody say well next season we're going to be in a better position I remember the 1994 World Cup it was razzmatazz it took over it was in the United States and it was massive and for that whole month everyone was focused on that.

15:54I also remember the Euros. I know what happens. There is next to no transfer news when the major tournament's on. So we're going to end the season with the Champions League. We're going to go straight into the World Cup, which will run through till the middle of July. People will be back in pre-season training when the World Cup's still going on. And then the season will start again. So next summer will be a bloody nightmare trying to sign players because the market will be very small, contracted, very, very difficult. And also there might not be an abundance of midfielders or strikers. So we are wasting an opportunity where, as we talk about the midfield, there are three, four, five really good options.

16:36I mean, look, if you've got the money, there's people like Yulman and Wharton and Edison. If you haven't got the money, there are some potential bargains under£30 million, like Pelinia, like Richard Rios, and there'll be a few others as well. There is a good market. And I do agree with Nav. And, you know, I get bored of it myself. I do agree with Nav. I would have sold Bruno. Of course I would. But because I don't see him as a midfielder, I think it's going to be, I think there's going to be a few games next season where people are going to be going, I told you so. And look, how costly will that be to Amerim when we're playing games against teams with a good midfield and we're getting overrun?

17:13How costly is that going to be to Amerim when we rock up to the Emirates and we're playing against Subamendi, Odegaard and Rice or the Liverpool midfield or the Man City midfield or the Newcastle midfield you know and that's just off the top of my head I mean Chelsea's midfield is better than ours as well how I mean it's not going to take long before you're looking at half of the half of the games in an entire season and going I think our midfield is going to struggle with Bruno in it so look I hope he's going to prove us all wrong yeah you know we saw against Aston Villa Bruno and Casemiro ran that midfield against a good Villa midfield.

17:48So it can happen. But if he gets that wrong, it's not the Glazers fault. As far as we know, it's not Sir Jim Radcliffe's fault. It's not Berada's fault. I mean, they're at fault for a lot, but they're not at fault for, I want to keep Bruno in the midfield when someone's offering me a hundred million pounds. And that's probably the best way to start to end it before we move on to the next story, because we're not buying a midfielder unless we sell somebody and we refuse to sell somebody. and I'm going to leave it there because all the talk about Richard Rios, Yulman, Wharton, Edison, Pelinha, if we were buying a midfielder, we literally had a midfielder to sell and Ruben Amirim, clearly when you're being offered£100 million for Bruno in the midfield, you would go, I could buy Yulman, I could buy Richard Rios, I could buy Adam Wharton I could buy Edison And he has refused all those names To keep Bruno That's fine But that's where I am with the midfield I think he has made the decision And that's what it's going to be I don't believe we'll sign a midfielder I'd be very happy if we did But I just don't see it happening at all Let me, I mean this next story Is quite a funny one Let me just, just before I do that We've had a few super chats coming in So I want to just be fair to those I am live with you at 8 o 'clock tonight.

19:09Loving the 8 o 'clock shows. They've been brilliant the last couple of weeks. So don't miss those if you missed last night's one. Kin and Kaz, thanks for your super chats. The Goat says, we're assuming we can buy when we sell. What if the buying club wants to pay over five years as well? Says The Goat. Well, you can't look. The Goat, if we sell Ganacho to Villa and they pay us£40 million over five years, that's£8 million a year. But you still bank the money on it. The way it works is even if you're getting it in installments, you're allowed to bank the 40 million on ffp purposes so you can still go and spend it uh morning all arsenal lads telling me wadawake is the best thing after robert perez and jackson for sale uh says rub i've got a video on that's football coming out at about half 11 so i will cover that there but um arsenal fans are not all saying that madowake is the next perez um they're they're definitely definitely not um kunya and burmo douglas louise vlahovic a good window says Alan Casey.

20:07Alan, I don't know where this Vlahovic stuff is coming from. I know he's a choice in the chat and I respect that, but you're never going to change my mind on it. And that's the brilliance of football opinion. For me, Vlahovic, injury prone, huge wage. Don't actually think he's that good. Don't actually think people watch him enough. I think he's just a name that's been around for a while who people think he's going to come to the Premier League and score 50 goals and the question is why are juventus writing his contract off because nobody wants him and it would be typical of us doing it but i i think it's a massive risk and um he's going to want huge wages and a huge contract and we'll be stuck with that risk for a long time um pl6 says get bettinha jaunevis and moro rather having them playing for united than an oil club hugs from portugal palinia is a defensive midfielder with the casinos play style not really creative yeah we don't I don't think we want a creative mate uh thank you very much for your super chat but um I think we actually want somebody who's a bit of a Carrick Rodri type in our midfield to be fair um Jake Kyle Keith Wayne Scott it was worth it in the end because he's gifted 20 memberships what a legend thank you very much for that Jake you are alleged thank you very much for gifting 20 memberships if you've got one make sure you're saying thank you um manners cost nothing Zach says, are Brentford working this weekend?

21:32I would doubt it. Brentford don't work weekends on transfers. They don't. Well, they weren't in June. They might be now, but yeah. I mean, just on the Brentford situation, the Ornstein story about Whizzer wasn't actually as concerning as it could have been. Forest have bid for Whizzer, but Brentford want 50 million and Forest have bid below 25 so they're miles away so it's not like that's going to be a here we go really quickly and impact on us i i actually thought they were going to offer the 50 spurs are interested as well but they don't want to pay 50 so although if brentford sell wizza it could really impact the embermo deal um the feeling is that nobody's going anywhere near uh the brentford evaluation of visa which is 50 which i don't know look we're not looking at him so i couldn't give a toss but I would imagine he's worth more than 25.

22:29I can't remember what his age and contract is, because I've never really heard him be linked to us. But he is 28. It's going to be 29. Yeah, to be fair, he's 29 in September. And he's only got a year left on his contract. Yeah, so he's not 50 million quid. He's not a 50 million quid player. So that's quite good for us because that would just slow that down uh bring yulman he will transform us as rajaf uh patrick i like i like yulman rajaf but he's a bit like wharton you're gonna need the best part of 60 70 million quid which we don't have and we won't have uh patrick lynch says i wonder what impact this saga will have on embermo if he comes and doesn't start well which is possible given how long it's taken the backlash on him will be with like agate unfair unwarranted can we just get a bit of appreciation for Patrick Lynch's comment here.

23:23I mean, it is absolutely level-headed, smart and fair because what people don't realise is we're not talking about the mental trauma of a well-played professional footballer waiting for a dream move to Manchester United. What we're talking about is the toxicity within fan bases and the media whose whole agenda is to generate story. So if a new signing doesn't do well, they'll instantly jump on them to generate the flop story. The media don't sit there and go, oh, look at Arsenal. They bought Zubimendi. What a great signing. His first two games, he didn't look very good. Right, get on him. So you're right, Patrick.

24:05With Embermo, Man United are there trying to save a couple of million, but the player needs the pre-season. And if he doesn't get the pre-season, he does become like an Agate like an Amrabat a player that hasn't had a pre-season who doesn't know his teammates who isn't settled who gets thrown into the deep end and then when he struggles becomes a flop what's the chances of him being a flop if he's there with Kunya now weeks ahead of the season integrated happy you know learning the system and this is again you know it's such poor business sense. You're going to spend£60 million on a player and then you're going to massively increase the risk of him failing by not getting him in in time.

24:47It's like totally hypocritical. And you're absolutely correct. The sooner Mbremo is in, the more chances he's got of having a good start to the season. And we all know that football is about confidence. People say it's a 38 game season, but if Mbremo has a bad five games and people start getting on his back, it gets in his head. We've seen it time and time again. The download progress bar for Mbermo must be going up in 0.1 seconds. I almost spat out my breakfast all over my missus when I heard Sancho's price, says Tom.

25:21I was going to say, good job it wasn't the other way around, but that's just filth. I'm starting to think that Ineos are hopeful that fans lose passion for the club so they can run the club as a pure business organisation rather than a sporting identity. no yazzo i mean we're not we might delve on that on an eight o 'clock show because i've got a couple of stories still to go through but um inios and the glazers would panic if shirt sales went down by 20 or you know ticket sales started to struggle they they're in the perfect storm at the moment they can run the club badly make money and everyone's still buying tickets and shirts and everything else um whilst that goes hand in hand they'll be happy why does it feel like every transfer window we make a quick signing early and then nothing until the ends is done Manipulation Daniel Darbish has been a member for 57 months Thank you very much Okay, this next story is actually It's quite interesting actually Because I've had a thousand likes on my reply To Man United's tweet

26:21There's nothing bad really They're just repurposing content When they should be buying players Okay

26:38I can't believe I've just read on social media. Anana's going to cook this season. He can't be any worse.

26:48Yeah, life doesn't work like that, you know. You know, if you've got a car that will only go 30 miles an hour, you can't then go, when I go out in it, it's not like it can go any slower. It's going to go quicker. No, it will stay at 30 miles an hour, mate, because it's got a limitation. People are so, so silly. He can't be any worse, so I think he's going to have a worldie. Well, he might not be any worse, but what makes you think he can be any better? Like, he is what he is. He's not going to suddenly cook because he had a bad season. He'll just do the same again. Oh, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear.

27:32what's this about oh this is a this i wrote this actually very very just want to bring this in before the next story so james ducker put it out yesterday that manchester united stand to make around 13.6 million in sell-on fees from prospective sales of alanga albari fernandez um and um etc. As I said before, this is very much PR. There's nothing wrong with what James Duck is saying. He's correct, but there's more detail to it. We are set to make 13.6 million from Alanga and Alvaro Fernandes, but we're not going to get it in one summer because the fee that Newcastle are paying for Alanga is in installments.

28:21So we will get ours back in installments and the same will happen with alvaro fernandez so although we'll get 13.6 million we won't get it all for a few years we might get a couple of million this year a couple of million next year but jonathan norcroft actually quote tweeted it and said well another way of looking at it is united sold two young players they spent time developing for 78 million less than they're worth now only two seasons later um and that is um quite interesting when you look at it like that um because you know people are like there's always a flip side and it's a very easy flip side with the pro glazer brigade and the pro glazer and pro inios brigade and we know who they are they start going brilliant business brilliant business to put salon clauses in but there is always a flip side and when you look at Alanga he was a Man United player two years ago he's now worth 55 million pounds and people are getting a stiffy because we're going to make a couple of million more a year on installments from a player that we sold for 15 million and it is true there's a 55 million pound player there that we sold for half that and we didn't see the talent and with alvaro fernandez we've made we've barely made 15 million on a player that is going to real madrid for 55 so i i sort of agree i'm like we're we're acting like we're brighton oh no stoke Oh look at this We're getting a bit of a sell on clause On a player Like we should We should be spotting That these players are going to become 50 million pound players Within a year or two I mean Alvaro Fernandes only left a year ago Didn't he?

30:11A year ago? In a year He's gone from what? 10 million pounds to 55 million pounds I'm sorry I don't look at that And applaud the club for getting a couple of million in salon fees. I think it's bloody shocking that two players in two years are now worth£100 million in the transfer market and we won't even get half of that. I think it's shocking, actually. So I don't know why people are celebrating it because I think it's just pure spin on a washing machine cycle. Why do we get our salons in bits? It's like selling a car. Surely you pay off the previous loan first, says Tony. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

30:53No, because it wouldn't be fair. If Nottingham Forest are selling Alanga to Newcastle for 55 million and Man United are going to get 8 million, and the first payment over five years is 10, you're not going to give 8 million of that 10 to Man United. It will be written in the contract that you will get your sell-on, but if it's in instalments, you'll get your sell-on fee in instalments. That's just fair. you said Brune may surprise so why not the same for Inanna's as class of 99 do you actually want me to explain why Bruno Fernandes might have a better season than Inanna or do you actually want to have a conversation on how Bruno Fernandes a top class footballer will have a better season than Inanna who's a crap goalkeeper I mean you're in that school sports day race aren't you where everyone gets a first prize sticker even when you finish last.

31:46It's called talent, mate. The reason Bruno may have a better season than Inanna is because he's a better player than Inanna. It's as simple as that. A season with no Europe demands transfers and time to prep and get back in the Champions League, says Hitan. If five million more for Mboma gets you four positions up, you make 12 million. Wait, why wait? Hitan, you make a great point. So many of you have mentioned it over the years. I remember being top of the league with Oli in January and we were all saying now is the time to buy a couple of players because those couple of players could get you the title.

32:20How many times have we been on the edge of top four and not bought in January and people have said but if we buy a couple of players it could get us in the top four which earns us another 70-80 million pounds. United never look at it like that because they want to bank the money before they spend the money. They're not speculative spenders like Chelsea. So if Chelsea were fifth and they weren't scoring enough goals in January, Boley would go and find a way to sell a hotel or a women's team and get a striker, knowing that if that striker scores more goals and makes the team better, they'll be in the Champions League.

32:51Man United would say, we don't like to do business in January. We'll wait till the summer. Then we finish seventh. We're not in Europe. We just, it's a very very good point Hinton and it's but it's a very very easy answer that we have owners that shouldn't be managing football clubs because football is about risk you look at Sir Alex Ferguson in that 99 final in the new camp we're losing and it's like forget the defense we're going for it because we may as well lose 2-0 then lose 1-0 and we might overpower them and get a goal we're manchester night football club is built on risk it's how we play the game unfortunately we've got owners that don't take risks so it's completely contradictory to what we actually are as a football club and that's why we struggle as fans because we haven't got owners that will go well if we spend a little bit more for this striker who might score 20 goals that's surely going to put us in the top five which puts us in the champions league which earns 100 million quid but they don't think like that they don't think like that uh marlo says can we talk more Talk more about the fact that the first half, the workforce, just to throw money at a shady, one-star-reviewed American consulting firm.

34:02The whole thing about United is very shady. Good point, Marlow. Harry says, it's my 22nd birthday today. Love the channel. Wish you well. Have a pint on me. Happy birthday, Harry. Hope you're having a good one. It's a lovely hot day in the UK, but you might not be there. But wherever you're doing, I hope you have a good one. Stephen Barnum says, so annoyed with these owners, I'd almost like Amram to quit in August. set up to fail seasons done already as i said amarin we need to wait for amarin's first interview because i'm expecting what i said to you the other day uh not that worried about the pre-season because i've got whole weeks with no europe where i can train my team he's apparently very relaxed calm and we'll have to see if he's changed his attitude from last season and become more pliable to the um the owner's needs um william welcome to members club malik says you'll also get world cup inflation coming up this is not this is the one market where players are actually worth the price andst jim randolph wants to make a statement for the fuck's sake uh thank you very much for that okay um we move on we move on uh ben jacob says it's a key day uh in the jokeres saga bear with me um jokeres is actually due for pre-season training with sporting today uh however he is not expected to turn up and he's told the portuguese club that he wants to leave and move to Arsenal.

35:18There is still a gap in the valuation with Sporting informing Arsenal that they want 60 million as a fixed fee plus add-ons. And whilst Jokeres and Arsenal have agreed on terms of a five-year deal and there is a need for a quick resolution, there is no resolution around the fee. So what's that got to do with us? Well, this has come in from Pedro Souza, who is a journalist in Portugal and speaking over there, he basically said that there are clubs that want to pay the fee that Sporting want for Jokeres, i.e. there are clubs that will pay 60 million plus 10. Manchester United would be one of those clubs and they would pay 60 million plus 10 million in euros tomorrow.

36:05But unfortunately, the president, Frederico Verandas, is still not answering the phone uh i don't know whether he's answering the phone to ruben amrim i believe that ruben amrim wants to talk about this um um but at the moment there doesn't seem to be any uh opportunity of that happening because of arsenal's interest i don't know i don't know i don't know what's going on with the striker situation i don't expect jacquez to be coming anywhere near Manchester United now and I don't know whether if this deal fell through Man United would have that money um to be honest it sounds a little bit to me like that might be more around a little bit of a game to maybe get Arsenal to pay saying there are clubs willing to pay what we want uh bill it like look it's a little bit like Brentford saying Spurs well I don't think Brentford say it but it's a little bit like that story about Spurs wanted to pay 70 for Mbremo that was never actually true I don't think you can use Man United against Arsenal and say they want to pay the fee you won't pay when Man United won't pay what Brian Mbremo's worth I think we're being used a little bit there to be honest with you which is why I left it towards the end of the show I don't think Man United are there trying to ring up Sporting saying we will pay the fee that Arsenal won't because Jokeres won't come and we I don't think we've got the money to do that with the striker I'm starting to look as I said to you last night it's worth watching the show last night if you didn't see it there's two fundamentals for me at the moment one I feel utterly depressed and fed up with the football club and two I um I just think we've got people who run the football club who just don't care they're not passionate they're not relentless they're not they're not risk takers um they're just a terrible fit for this football club so when people talk to me about strikers I literally just sit here and go what do you want me to say we need a striker and I'm starting to think we won't get one um and and I'm starting to think the striker we get I'd rather we didn't get one because I don't want Callum Wilson I don't want Calvert-Lewin I don't want Vlahovic and some people will say well they're better than nothing but no I don't I don't think they are would we have been better off with nothing instead of Jadon Sancho yes we might not have thought so at the time but we would have been better off with nothing because he's contributed nothing and he's taken a lot now I know I'd be arguing with myself when we bought Sancho if if if the voice of reason bridge came back from the future and said you're better off with nothing than signing Sancho I'd be like I've got t-shirts with 90 % on but we'd have been better off with nothing over Sancho he's been an absolute waste of time and there are other players like that as well so I don't actually agree that we're better off with Calvert-Lewin than nothing.

38:58I actually think you're better off with nothing sometimes. And it wouldn't surprise me if that's the approach that Manchester United make. It really wouldn't. Let us never forget that Nice fans tried to warn us about Ineos and their transfer strategy in the summer. Yes, Z3 music official, but people didn't want to listen because there's absolute morons out there that were telling us Ineos will have the glazers out by 2026. I won't forget. Receipts are there. Delete them. Delete your tweets as much as you like. many of us took screenshots we know exactly who you are we know exactly what you said you taught bollocks to back this bunch of idiots in charge cw evans welcome to the members club thank you very much supporting us could a deal with whizzer happen he had 19 goals last season and he's almost out of contract maybe off a 90 for both him and him bermos is edward i don't think united have ever been in for whizzer if i'm being honest with you i've never heard anything of, I mean, I've seen stories, but nothing of, you know, credibility.

39:56Mess up their regeneration project and they'll listen to fans again, says Adrian. Well, I don't think we can mess up their regeneration project because if I was Qatar, I'd have bought all that land around Man United weeks ago, months ago, years ago. I mean, the incredible thing is, I don't know who was advising the Qatari bid and maybe they just thought they would win because they had the money, But that document from the Glazers went into Trafford Council in 2017. And it's literally the regeneration project we can see now. So the Glazers were planning this regeneration project in 2017. And obviously, the reason they'd worked with Sir Jim is because Sir Jim's got the contacts in government to make it happen.

40:39But if the Qataris had done their, you know, scrutiny and their homework, they'd have seen that regeneration project and gone. If we can buy up some of that land. That takes away the Glazer's incentive to stay because they can't do it. But I don't think they realized. And I don't think they thought they were going to lose. And people say they won't sell. Not all the land in the regeneration project is Man United's. in fact very very small area of it is a lot of it is owned by individual companies so it's not government land and it's not all man united land we did a video on it a few months ago um it's quite a large area around old trafford we own our bit we own a little bit where all the flats are going to go but the rest of it is private companies and all sorts so the government can't stop you buying that and that's in hindsight i think what qatar should have done they should have bought a load of that land um strategically but i think they thought they were going to win without doing that um there we go could that land be bought now it could be bought now i don't think it's locked into any agreement with anybody it could be bought now but um you'd need to be a very rich person to do it and your motivation would have to be to stopped the glazes and the government doing that regeneration project.

42:07And also let's not forget there is some, I'm working way above my payroll here because I know it's happened where my brother-in-law lives. There is compulsory purchase that the government can do. They can forcefully take land, I think as well. So yeah, I don't even know if you bought it, whether the government could say, well, you've got to sell it to us because we're building this thing around it so i don't know i don't know we're just spitballing here 100 it'll be a united player arsenal is a smoke screen for united to act quickly arsenal splash 50 million for a backup and negotiating over 5 million for the difference says rick with it hi mark is it still possible for inios and the glazes to sell manchester united's karan i wouldn't have thought so no i wouldn't have thought so um thank you everybody for watching i'm looking forward to the 80 o 'clock show tonight obviously it's a saturday uh i'll only do anything else if something else happens because it's a Saturday and I do fancy like having a little bit of a break.

43:01But if anything happens, we will go live. We're definitely live at eight o 'clock. I've got a That's Football video going up very soon as well. Have a great day. Stay safe. Thank you for all your brilliant comments again. Really enjoying the conversation in a time which is just very frustrating, I know. Take care, stay safe and I'll speak to you on in a bit.