127: Amorin WANTS Jackson! Mbeumo DEAL This Week!

0:02Hello, everybody. Good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. We've got Ganacho rejecting a move. We've got Embermo next week. We've also got Marcus Rashford and Andre Inanna having talks as well as Watkins developments. But I want to start off with a story this Sunday morning that scares me. It scares me a lot. you'll know I'm scared of great white sharks. And this guy scares me more than being, you know, chest deep in water and hearing that deep cello. This scares me more than that. It terrifies me. Even BB in the chat just said, I'd rather as we dug up my great granddad and stuck him up front.

0:47Manchester United, I hope you're with someone you can hug because you're going to get scared. linked to Nicholas Jackson overnight. Now it's coming in from France and we will hope that this is not true. But if I'm being honest, it's sort of a story that's been in the back of my mind for a couple of weeks now that is he better than Calvert-Lewin? Yes. Is he less injury prone than Callum Wilson? Yes. Vardy? Yes. Is he available? Yes. Do Chelsea have an amazing tendency to sell their shit to other Premier League clubs for a good fee? Yes. And is Sir Jim and Favell and co obsessed with Chelsea? Yes.

1:36So when I hear stories like this, I have to react to them and I have to say, surely it won't happen. But it does concern me because United need a striker and he is gettable. And I'm sure Chelsea would love to do a deal for£60 million for Nicholas Jackson to Manchester United in installments. I mean, they'd probably say take as long as you want. It's horrific. It's horrific. I mean, it really would be. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have anywhere to go on this, by the way. I wouldn't have anywhere I could go on this Because I have ripped the piss out of this striker So much at Chelsea That there is no way I can say I can't Look, you know Don't tell Rio You know, making your mind up about a player before they come You know, he's got family and friends You can't do that Well, I'm sorry Rio, I can Because I'd be a hypocrite If I said I'm going to get behind Nicholas Jackson at Manchester United I'd be a hypocrite if I said I think this is a better deal than nothing And I'd be a hypocrite if I said I'm going to get behind him because there are clips of him missing chances.

2:54And I've gone, who's bad? I'd rather have Michael Jackson up front. I'd rather have the statue of Michael Jackson outside Fulham up front. I've absolutely rinsed this player. So I can't I can't get I can't I can't contemplate this. I can't get behind this. I can't say anything other than if we do this deal or even look at this deal, we are we are done. I mean, this is the sort of deal that years ago, Chelsea would be selling this player to Everton. You know, this is the sort of deal that, you know, it's like Arsenal selling Nketiah to Crystal Palace. That is what this is. We can't be that. We might well be that.

3:36I think this is a good point. We may well be that. We finished 15th. We lost the Spurs in the Europa League final. We're nowhere near the level we want to be. and effectively we are Crystal Palace taking Enketiah from Arsenal because that's where we are. But we don't have to behave like that. We can be something else. We can say, okay, this is where we are, but we're not going to behave like we're that. We believe that we're better than that. So, yeah, just be wary of that. I mean, hopefully nothing will come from it, But sometimes stories start in France and end up in David Ornstein or Fabrizio Romano's Twitter timeline.

4:20So look, just dropping it there. Saw it last night and thought, you know what? We probably should hit that story head on as we have. Give us your thoughts on that. 60 million is criminal, says Lee Berman. Well, they were quoting 100 million yesterday. Apparently their justification is that they wanted Eketike from Eintracht Frankfurt and they quoted 100 million euros. so now people have inquired about nicholas jackson since they've bought gael pedro and delap and chelsea have gone well if you want 100 million if they want 100 million euros for um eketike and liverpool are demanding 60 million pounds for nunez then we want 80 for um nicholas jackson so yeah not only is he rubbish we you know someone's going to pay a lot of money uh doesn't seem likely says i hunt for static i'd love to i would love to agree it doesn't seem very likely But I actually think anything is possible with Manchester United at the moment.

5:11Just a shout out to Devil's Info as well. He messaged me last night about this. I've not seen whether this is true. We'll have to wait and see. But apparently Oli Watkins is now being linked to Saudi. He really needs to get out of Villa, by the way. I know a lot of Villa fans. I know a lot of people quite close to Villa. And him and Emi Martinez do need to get out of Villa. Like it's not all, you know, it's not one of those transfers where it's like, if the price is right you know they would reluctantly leave Watkins Martinez Emery they want to end that relationship all three like Emery wants Watkins and that Martinez gone and both players want to move on so that doesn't mean it's going to benefit Man United but if Saudi's all that's available he probably will go I mean Ivan Tony's over there isn't he still getting picked for England so just a player that's been linked to Manchester United but apparently they're looking at him in Saudi now as well.

6:02Another player that's been linked to Saudi, and I would say it's disappointing, but not surprising. Mike McGrath from The Telegraph, who dropped the story about Anani yesterday. So credibility, you know, I like it. I like that. I do like that. You know, I think we're craving a world where we get more journalists with credibility because it is dominated by certain journalists. And then I think we've got a lot of journalists who basically just hold the hand of man united and say what do you want us to pump out um and then there's a lot of people who just make stuff up so i think with this story it's quite interesting because um what mike mcgras is saying this morning is that al nazir which is ronaldo's team had made an approach to ganacho um about taking him to saudi he's rejected it out of hand he wants to stay in europe and manchester united are supporting him in that quest um not Really a lot more, a lot to say about that, if I'm being completely honest.

7:00If he was going to go to Saudi, it would be great for us because we would get a lot more than we're going to get in the European market. I don't know what you'd get from Saudi, maybe 60, you know, maybe we would get the value. But highly unlikely that Ganacho is going to want to go to Saudi at 20 or 21. I think he is now, especially when he wants to, you know, I understand that. I know John Duran went there, but look at him. He's now going to be playing in Turkey. So I think it's a step too far for a 20, 21-year-old to be going to Saudi. Yeah, you're going to get good money, but it's your formulative years.

7:36You're going to want to play Champions League. You're going to want to establish self in your national team. And I mean, I'm not going to criticise Garnaccio for that. There's plenty to criticise Garnaccio for, but I'm not going to criticise him for that. I think the most important thing is that Manchester United need to start escalating these moves. I don't know why. I don't know why. But it feels like last week was a bit of a, well, just classic Manchester United, really. So in relation to Marcus Rashford, Manchester United next week are going to be holding talks with him and Anana. so story coming out this morning that Manchester United will hold transfer talks with Marcus Rashford and Anana this week now you would presume the same with Ganacho because Ganacho wasn't back until midweek last week as well so it feels like again it's like it's the middle of July Manchester United have done nothing I mean it's the 13th of July now we've sold nobody by the way we're halfway into july now i don't know where july's gone but we're two weeks into it we've sold nobody in in in all of june and half of july we're nowhere near selling anybody at the moment by the way there's nothing like tomorrow here we go we've bought one player that we knew we were going to buy in april and it feels like last week for some reason united's approach last week well and some people might agree with it but what we're hearing is is that last week it was really about getting all the players that are going to be part of the plan back, settling them in, smiley faces, clips on socials, Amorim, and then this week is going to be bringing the players in or their agents in to talk about exits.

9:26And that's the truth. That's what's coming out this morning. That's what happened last week. There was no agent of Ganacho or Sancho or Casemiro or Rashford or any player, there was no agent there last week talking to United about prospects of moving. In fact, with Rashford, apparently the conversation this week is not for Rashford to stay. It's for Rashford's people to understand what Man United are willing to accept as an exit. Like, what are they looking for as a fee? What are they willing to have as a wage, as a payout? I mean in the middle of July This guy's been on loan since January Like why have we Why are we not at this stage So that's what's expected this week Is conversations with players around Now look There may well have been conversations before But having to have these conversations again Because the conversations we had before didn't work And I think that's what's happening I think if you take Rashford as an example Story coming out from Spain this morning Barcelona continue to work on deals for both Luis Diaz and Marcus Rashford but will not rush to sign either players and this is something we predicted all along they're not going to rush they're going to you know push this for a long time and I think what's going to happen there is you're going to get a conversation between United and Rashford's people about you know well can you can we have it on a loan deal you know can we do a loan deal and and this is it i agree with arshan really um are we that desperate to get jackson instead of trusting xerxi and rasmus what is going on at the football club see i've got to say on that one you've i thought you were talking about something else i thought you're talking about as being desperate But I've got to say, I do not.

11:21And it's probably quite a divisive opinion here, but that's football. I don't agree with giving Rasmus and Xerxes another season. I don't. I just don't. I don't agree with that. I mean, I like both players. And there may be a future for both players at the club. Maybe Xerxes is a 10, Rasmus is the backup striker. but I don't agree with them being the two strikers I really don't and that's not me saying they're both crap I like both players and but I don't see them either of them as the striker that we need now you could sell Rasmus and have Xerxes the understudy you could put Xerxes in it the number 10 and have Rasmus as the understudy you could sell both you could keep both I like both players but I don't want another season as them as our striker I think that's a huge risk huge risk and once bitten twice shy like why would you do it again neither of these players are like teenagers they're both like approaching well i think i think this is her old xerxi xerxi's got to be like 24 rasmus is 22 so they're not um yeah right yeah right yeah i've got that absolutely spot on so no i don't want to see them too given the chance as being our striker again to be honest i think there has to be some um well we demand a change from last season to be honest with you there's got to be a change from last season but it wouldn't be it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case bb54 says what's the story with the goalkeeper um well apparently there will be talks with anana's agent next week um obviously we had that news yesterday that anana is now injured there's talk of Bienda covering until he gets back look I wouldn't be surprised if Manchester United go down the cheap route if there is someone like Vitek or Bienda who can play in goal on tour does it really matter like the tour if we're being completely honest the tour is a PR thing we think it's about pre-season but it's it's a PR thing it's about going over to the states It's selling some nice shirts, converting some fans, playing in front of tens of thousands of people.

13:31That's what it was last year. That's what it will be this year. Because it's not about a pre-season training camp. They don't have time. They don't. It's attend this event, attend that event, do this interview, do that interview, play this game, play that game, get on a plane, get on a plane, get on a plane. That's what the US tour is all about. So it's not going to be about intensity of training or learning patterns. And secondary to that, with what? With last year's team? You've got one new player. You might have two. Come on. So I don't think it actually matters if you put Biender in goal against Everton, West Ham and Bournemouth and wait for an honour for the opening game of the season.

14:18I think there's a few people out there going, oh my God, we need to have a first team goalkeeper for the tour. We don't. You could put me in goal. You get beat, but it won't matter. I'm not convinced we're going to go out and buy a goalkeeper of the standard that we need. As I said last night, I think the John Victor one is the most appealing because he's very, very cheap. But he's also got second choice goalkeeper written all over him if he can bring a really good goalkeeper in next season. And I think for this season, he would push Anana. so I think Victor from Botafogo would be a very good choice to bring in because he's cheap he's at a good age and he will compete with Inanna and then you'd have to kick down the road getting a proper goalkeeper in a year but it's better than that it's better than nothing I suppose um El Nash says we'll regret selling Rasmus he showed glimpses last year and I think he's got potential but what's Chelsea convincing he has to pay 80 million for Jackson United be like he's a Smooth criminal, says J-Law Lloyd.

15:16Some of the players we are being linked with shows how far we have fallen. It's absolute piffle, says Mike JW. Well, look, about the striker, there are still conversations, there are still stories out there this morning, which I sort of want to steer clear of, about United and Jokeres. And I'm a massive fan of Jokeres. I really thought there was a time a few weeks ago where we were going to get Jokeres, and I would love him to come to Manchester United. But come on. I mean, this is just very, this is the same as Mbermo. He wants to go to Arsenal. The difference is£5 million. Arsenal are not about to down tools on a Jokeres deal for£5 million to start negotiating with Leipzig and Sesko, which will cost them more and might take longer.

16:01This deal will get done. When it will get done, I don't know. But we can't be waiting in line, hoping that he's going to reject them. it's like it's like it's like fancying somebody and but they they're in love with somebody else and that person they're in love with you know might be going away for a few years and then you're going oh I hope they do go away because then they might take me it's like you know we have to have a better plan than that we have to have a better plan than that we've lost we lost the lap we've lost that on Osman we've lost that on Jokeres but there are decent strikers out there beyond that um and you know what i don't know why we're not looking at something a little bit out more more out of the box there's got to be strikers out there who are between the age of 22 and 25 who've had good seasons at somewhere in the world um and have the potential to come to manchester united and do well um i don't know why we're looking at broken players that are looking for one final payday um some of the players we have been linked with shows how far we've fallen Only positive he scores more than Rasmus.

17:08But no, says Dale about Nicholas Jackson on that one. Well, on Embermo, I mean, I'm almost terrified to give you this update, but I will do. This is direct quotes from Fabrizio Romano in the last few hours. Get ready. It's groundbreaking. And look, I sympathise with Fabrizio because he gets asked about it every day. Contacts are still ongoing between United, Brentford and others involved in the deal Embermo still wants to go to Manchester United And the club remain optimistic to get the green light and sign Brian Embermo in the next days Still no breakthrough as of tonight But United keep working, negotiating, keep advancing to find the right structure for the deal Sorry They're working on easier And more difficult add-ons They're trying to make Brentford happy With their final proposal United are on it And the deal is completely alive As of this weekend United prepared to push again And get Brian Embermo A crucial target For their transfer window Now that Is where I will agree with you so no news then also goes on to say Man United remain active with Mbermo this weekend and hopeful to get a green light by the end of next week

18:38help me out just help me out on that one I mean I don't know what to say we've got a new kit coming out on Wednesday we've got a pre-season game on Saturday I'm convinced we get here we go this week but at the end of the day I have to say all the joy all the interest all the excitement it's got to be one of the worst deals we've ever done it's got to be I mean Fabrizio is basically taking yesterday's video taking the manuscript whacking it into chat GBT and saying, can you convert this into as many cliches as possible that sound different to yesterday? And he's doing it every day. Like, I feel sorry for the guy because he's getting asked about it every day.

19:25There has been no update on Man United and Mbremo and Brentford since David Ornstein told us the story at the start of June. Mbremo wants Man United, Brentford will sell for 60, and Man United need to offer it. That's basically the same update for six weeks. there's a couple of bids gone in but still it remains and Burma wants Man United Brentford will sell for the right play price and Man United need to pay it we just haven't paid it so we can talk about add-ons we can talk about closer we can talk about concrete we can talk about green lights we can talk about progress we can talk about advancing we can talk about negotiations we can talk about working hard we can talk about moving in the right direction but the reality is it's all just talk.

20:12Why have we not offered 60 million quid? That's the only question. Why haven't we offered it? And if it genuinely is because we want him to be announced when the new away kit comes out, then, or maybe we had no intention of doing this deal until the middle of July to save money on wages. So, I mean, look, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Manchester United, after Kunja, read this fan base and went, we can't do nothing in June. Like, we can't not be doing anything in June. We can't not sell anybody and not buy anybody in June. So somebody goes, well, let's let it be known we're in talks for Mbermo.

20:58Let's let it be known that that's the player we want but we just won't sign him until the middle of July oh but the fans will start moaning about how slow we are yeah but it's better than not being in talks with anybody because we're not in talks with anybody so would you rather we put it out there that we're in talks with Mbermo for six weeks and get the piss taken out of us for being slow would you rather there was no talks about anything yeah put it put it out there and I think that's I'm absolutely convinced that this whole Mbermo scenario is deliberate. I don't think you can call it incompetence, but I don't think it's because we're incompetent at bidding.

21:38I think it's staged. I don't think it's staged from Brentford's side, and I don't think it's staged from Mbermo's side, but I think Man United have staged this. I think they've purposely made it go this long. And the reason I think that is because there's no logical explanation why you'd go from June the 1st to July the 13th with next to no progress on a transfer fee of £60 million, which is totally and utterly fair. And we've not been able to get anywhere near it. And yet this week, I think we will. And I think we've done it on purpose. I think we've done it because we don't want to buy our second signing until the middle of July because we haven't sold other players and it'll be a financial thing, which is terrifying to run a football club like that that needs a lot more than this.

22:27But you look at how Newcastle did the Alanga deal and Chelsea did the Pedro deal and Spurs have done the Cudas deal and the Gibbs-White deal. These deals are fast. You look at all Liverpool's transfers, you look at Arsenal's transfers, you look at Man City's transfers, you look at Chelsea's transfers. There is no deal this summer. This is one point to remember, there is no other deal in the Premier League this summer that's gone even half as long as what Embermo to Man United has. By a very long way, this is the longest deal Man United have worked on. Sorry, this is the longest deal in the summer transfer window.

23:06I don't think that's a coincidence. I think it's completely and utterly staged. And I think that United have done it deliberately um and we've all been played again effectively um which i don't think we'd be surprised about uh why is the show so early this morning um if you didn't watch the evening show last night you missed another cracker the eight o 'clock shows are legendary at the moment made by you absolutely superb um but uh seb's got a match at 10 so i can't do my normal 10 o 'clock show so hence i'm a little bit earlier it's obvious jim didn't buy united the shareholders of inios did says James Clough.

23:41Xerxes once said he was more of a 10 than a 9, says David. I think he is. I mean, yeah, I think he is. Still believe a solid option is Igor Jesus for 15 million. 24, presses well, hardworking, prolific, speaks Portuguese, low risk, high potential. Plays for Nottingham Forest now. I agree, Jordy. Having seen him play, I think he would have been an interesting proposition. But he now plays for Nottingham Forest For about 20 million So And I think he's going to do well in the frame And I think we'll be looking at that player going Why didn't we go anywhere near him How is it that Forrest have got better South American scouts than we have Scary I honestly think Moises Keane would be perfect I don't want it I do not want him Jacob You know what You should never go back you should never go back and if you go near keen who flopped to everton the pressure on him to do well in the premier league is massive he's at man united where it's even more fans will be like not sure about this it's got the recipe for a disaster for the lad to be honest wouldn't go anywhere near that deal nowhere near uh morning everyone sending love and happy vibes thanks for coming early live mark says trader ng news ain't great but at least we have you thank you pal um thank you very much okay i have got to shoot off because otherwise you'll miss kickoff um we've got a seven o 'clock show tonight because it's the club will cup at eight o 'clock but obviously if anything else happens like it did yesterday with an honor we'll get some content up for you as well have a great day stay safe do you think once this deal goes through we start hammering out more deals quickly wolf in blue no no i i don't think there's going to be a massive influx of deals in a quick way.

25:34No, I don't. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you in a bit. If you didn't watch live, which many of you probably didn't because you didn't realise we were early, get your comments in as usual. Speak to you in a bit.