


Manchester United transfer news and a broader argument that the club’s real problem is ownership/finances—effectively a transfer ban—while rivals (especially Chelsea) succeed by spending and exploiting loopholes.
No specific podcast guests are named in the transcript. The host references “ex-Manchester United players” appearing on Sky Sports, including Ashley Young, but they are not formal guests.
Ashley Young (former Manchester United player; Sky Sports pundit/interview). Fabrizio Romano is cited as a source, not a guest.
Ruben Amorim is operating under a de facto transfer ban (few signings, no sales). Sir Jim Radcliffe/Glazers won’t invest enough; fans are “gaslit.” Chelsea’s Club World Cup win is presented as proof spending works. Football’s “Super League” reality is equated with the Champions League model.
Rashford linked to Barcelona (seen in Barcelona kit; not a priority; club message says they don’t trust him). Ganacho likely left out of US pre-season tour. Mbeumo expected to happen soon. Chelsea’s Club World Cup win over PSG; Chelsea’s spending and revenue are used as the blueprint. Victor Osimhen deal details are discussed.
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Discussion on the implications of poor ownership and financial strategies on Manchester United's success.
“Obviously, I want to get into the news, but there's something that I think should dominate that more.”
Comparing Manchester United's financial strategy with Chelsea's successful spending.
“Exactly what we all said has come to pass.”
Exploration of the changes in football dynamics and the impact on Manchester United.
“So clubs are just going to get stronger and stronger.”
Updates on Marcus Rashford's situation and potential transfer implications.
“And this has literally happened in the last eight months.”
The discussion revolves around Marcus Rashford's uncertain future with Manchester United and the lack of trust from the club.
“Have I woken up five years down the line?”
Analyzing Manchester United's preparation for the upcoming season and their current squad limitations.
“Pretty much last year's team with Ganacho also gone.”
Critique of Ashley Young's comments on the team's expectations and the perceived lack of support for the manager.
“He didn't want the job during the season and it was obviously very challenging, but he's got a pre-season now and effectively he...”
Discussion on the ownership's impact on Manchester United's strategy and the potential future of the club.
“And I'm like, this does need calling out because the other ex-players are going to start it as well.”
Discussion on Manchester United's current transfer issues and comparison with Chelsea's strategies.
“I think if they had to play Liverpool or Arsenal in their first three games, I'd worry about them.”
Exploration of fan sentiments regarding club ownership and the effectiveness of current strategies.
“To earn£266 ,000 a week in the UK after tax, you would need to earn£425 ,000 a week.”
Discussion on Manchester United's transfer activities and shortcomings.
Criticism of club ownership and management's impact on performance.
“be one and also we are now approaching the last few weeks of a transfer window where desperation kicks in.”
Examination of financial inequalities between clubs in football.
“We can only do small things, but stop buying merch can be the first step, says Christian.”
Thoughts on the future of Manchester United amidst current challenges.
“200 million pounds in two months from winning the club world cup and getting into the top four 200 million pounds of revenue, pure profit revenue.”

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0:00We're going to talk, obviously, in relation to the latest news from Fabrizio Romano around Marcus Rashford. Also, there's reports coming in around Ganaccio and the requirement for him to be moved on from Manchester United. He won't be going on the tour. We've also got updates. I would say guess who or guess when on Mbermo and a few other bits as well. I mean, incredible, incredible comment. I mean, what is it about ex-Manchester United players that they play for Man United for years, they know how bad the Glazers are, and then they have sawdust in their brains? The latest one is Ashley Young. I mean, Ashley Young on Sky Sports.
0:37It's not a good mix, is it? You know, it's like pissing on your cornflakes. But effectively, he's saying it's now or never for Amorim and there's no more excuses, which is weird, I suppose. But look, different surroundings today. Holiday settings won't always be like this. But morning shows, just be wary this week about that one. Also, I might be in a special place this afternoon for the two o 'clock show. We'll have to wait and see what that's all about. But let's get straight into it. I want to start off talking. Obviously, I want to get into the news, but there's something that I think should dominate that more.
1:17I think that what we've effectively got here is two things I want to say. We've got Ruben Amarim, who is effectively operating under a transfer ban. That's what's happening. There is no doubt about that. This is a transfer ban. And secondly, we've got an owner in Sir Jim Radcliffe who is quite simply needs to go. He needs to go. I watched the Club World Cup last night and something just sort of hit me like a big fish around the face. And that was this. You've got a football club in Chelsea that Ruben Amrim tried to buy. And sorry, that Sir Jim Radcliffe tried to buy. And what happened? I'll tell you what happened is he didn't buy it Todd Bowley did and look at what happened with that They've spent loads and loads of money relentlessly Some would say at times incredibly silly what they've spent I would agree but they've ended up in a situation where they're going to win Where they've won the Club World Cup, they're into the Champions League spending money has certainly worked really really well for Chelsea and so Jim Radcliffe wanted to buy that football club and you look at what a lucky escape that was now we look at Manchester United and we'll look at look at what's happening here we've adopted this strategy of not spending money we've adopted this strategy of we we don't need to spend money we can be successful by not spending money.
3:03We're going to go down the path less trodden where we cut jobs, we increase ticket prices, we basically don't get rid of the debt and we don't try and buy players and we think we're going to be successful. Look at what Chelsea have done over the last two years. A couple of billion pounds spent and people will always throw it back in our face. Man United spent money, Man United spent money. We did spend money but we spent it badly. When you look at Chelsea, they have spent some of that money badly, but they've never stopped spending. They've gone to be successful, to catch up with the best teams in the Premier League, we need to spend.
3:40And we haven't done that. And I think last night, watching that Club World Cup final, where Chelsea deservedly beat the best team in the world, which is PSG, I thought, what a journey. And we've got people who are ex-players of our football club, who sat on Sky Sports ridiculing Todd Bowley, absolutely ridiculing him. And effectively, are they ridiculing him now?
4:08DNX says you were annoyed that Sir Jim Radcliffe was copying Chelsea. Mate, I don't know whether you've woke up this morning and pressed the stupidity button. What about Man United is copying Chelsea, mate? Sir Jim Radcliffe might be a Chelsea fan who's obsessed with them. He's not copying anything that they've done. I mean, that's incredible that you think they are. We don't need to buy Nicholas Jackson. That's not what I'm saying here. What I'm saying is that I think last night was a prime example of all these fans who've been gaslighting us for two years. If you wanted guitar, you've been gaslit for two years by the pro-glazer, pro-Ineos brigade, basically saying that you're a traitor of your football club if you wanted guitar.
4:48It's the gym we need. And they're still trying to do it now. And to be honest, I just think, you know what? Exactly what we all said has come to pass. Hasn't it? Exactly what we all said has come to pass. If you don't spend money, you won't be successful. You can spout about best in class. You can spout about knowing what you're doing. But ultimately, it comes down to the same thing. Many of us said, whether it's Qatar, whether it's Elon Musk, whether it's Sir Jim Radcliffe buying the whole club and being a billionaire that wants to put the money in, he hasn't done it. he's got into bed with the Glazers he pontificates about oh three year plans I'll tell you a three year plan that's definitely going to happen and then Sir Jim and Omar and everyone else can talk about their pretend plan that won't happen.
5:35In three years time Chelsea will keep earning£100 million a year and they'll keep signing players. Liverpool will keep earning£100 million a year and they'll keep signing players Arsenal will keep signing We'll keep going the same. Manchester United, over the next three years, what are we actually going to earn from the Champions League? Nothing, because we won't be in it. What are we going to earn from the next Club World Cup? Nothing, because we won't be in it. We won't even be in the bloody Europa League. So clubs are just going to get stronger and stronger. I think it's time to, you know, I know it says get out on the thumbnail and it's got Gannaccio and Rashford.
6:15Yeah, they do need to go. But maybe we need to start waking up here and saying, Whilst we need to get rid of these players That's just so logical We actually need a change of ownership Massively Now whether Sir Jim Radcliffe's going to walk away Whether the Glazers are going to go anywhere Of course they're not They're sat on a gold mine And it's called the Regeneration Project And so are Manchester County Council So are the government That Regeneration Project's going to make them all loads of money And Man United are a part of that So they're not going to go anywhere But neither is the football club They're not going anywhere And neither is the football club Until they start writing cheques they're not going anywhere their big grand strategy is is this bloody tortoise approach where they think their hair is going to pass out and they're going to walk past it's just not going to happen there's too many hairs running for the finishing line it just won't happen um i wanted to say that at the start because i think it's a really important thing because what what a lot of people will talk about this morning is you know what fabrizio said about rashford and what the manchester evening news is saying about ganacho um and and is it going to be in burmo this week and they're you know they're all relevant stories but i would say they are little stories the mountain is the ownership and where we're heading and i can't believe people think we're coming back from this because we're not we're just not um all you needed to do was watch chelsea's journey over the last two years well it's not even over yet you know they might win the league in the next two years they might win the champions league in the next two years it's certainly not over yet but they're certainly a football club that's doing well at the moment.
7:46And it's based on spending money. That's what it's based on. Qatar was never an option as the Glazers weren't selling. That's coming in from Sam. Thank you very much, Sam. Well, you know, I don't think we would have had the option anyway, would we? It wouldn't have been down to us. Wilcox is not first in class. Bowley better than Sir Jim, says Amrick. Do you think Sir Jim will be at the Chelsea bus parade? I bet he was very happy last night. Carla says we're doomed Mark Qatar was never an option as the Glazers weren't selling that's from Sam official line was always they were looking for investment the sale rhetoric was paperable of course it was and so Jim helped them out of that hi Mark we should give up on the season as we are messed up well you know you can't give up of course I don't think anybody is condoning Manchester United giving up but what I will say is we have to look at we have to be real we have to be real and we have to accept that we're in a big, big problem here.
8:42And I don't necessarily see how that's going to change. This just means we should give Sir Jim time. It took a few years for them to get where they are, says DMX. I think, have we got a moderator to block DMX? I mean, we're actually trying to have a serious conversation about how United are in the gutter and they're not going to get out. And you're talking about more time for a guy that's basically in bed with the Glazers, sacked half the workforce, hasn't got a bloody clue what he's doing, and he's going to sink the club even further. and just keep saying at the end of the day, at the end of the day.
9:13Mark, publicly United are quoting 60 plus for Ganacho, but how come no club is testing the waters with 25 or 40, says... Oh God, this is rubbish. With 35 or 40 and begin talks, we need pure profit, says GGMU. Do you think winning the FA Cup needs to be a bigger priority than top five to get Europe? I know it's sad, but well, people take winning the FA Cup. Interesting. Seriously, mate, I don't think that's going to be really a definite thing. You can't just say, let's prioritise the FA Cup. I mean, let's prioritise the Carabao Cup. Let's prioritise finishing in the top eight. I don't think any of those things can be prioritised without, you know, massive improvement.
9:59And I don't see that. I mean, it was interesting. I am going to talk about the transfer news. But to be honest with you, I'm absolutely majorly concerned. I'm tired of saying the same thing. Football has changed so much in the last eight months, and I don't think people have realised it. And I think when they come back and start doing match of the day and all that stuff, somebody might say it and the world will go, oh my God, I've never heard that before, despite fans talking about it for ages. Football has changed in the last eight months. The Super League exists and we're not in it. The Super League that the Glazers tried to take us into with Perez and everybody else was about making the big clubs rich and unobtainable playing in their own garden for forever.
10:40And it got voted down, but it exists now. The Super League is happening now. The Super League was about no relegation and the best teams in Europe playing in that tournament every year, earning huge money. The only thing about the Champions League that's not the Super League is that they're not playing games around the world yet, but that will come. Those Champions League games, there's so many of them. I know, you know, those eight group games, some of them are going to be played in New York soon. Some of them are going to be played in Melbourne soon. They are. It's 100 % going to happen. The Super League already exists.
11:15It's the Champions League. And it does have relegation and it can change. But what's going to happen is, is that Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Man City are super wealthy and they will be in the top four every year in the Premier League. And they will be in the Super League every year. Oh, I've called it the Super League, the Champions League every year. And they will earn £100 million every year or more. And it will keep going up and up and up and up. And we won't be in it. And so you say, what's the transfer news? It's going to get worse every year because people aren't going to come to Manchester United anymore.
11:47They're not. They're going to go somewhere else where they can earn better money and play in better tournaments. And this has literally happened in the last eight months. And United are falling asleep. I think some fans are falling asleep. but Manchester United are falling asleep. They haven't figured it out at all. They haven't figured it out that football has changed hugely in the last eight months. I don't even think the Premier League will be that competitive next year. You know, like last year, everybody could beat everybody. I don't think Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal are obtainable.
12:18I think top four is on lockdown. And it's amazing how quickly it's happened. This summer has proved it. I want to come back to what Ashley Young said about how it's now or never for Ruben Amirim. And basically he's got no more excuses. I do want to come back to that because it's a big load of nonsense, but I've sort of had the topical debate, which is really more for an eight o 'clock show. I might get back in that tomorrow, tonight, back in the studio tonight. But coming back to what I was talking about there, let's hit some transfer news this morning. I actually, I'm going to come back to your super chats.
12:52Don't worry, Vinny, Patrick and everybody else. We will come back to that. But let me just go through some of the news this morning. So just on Marcus Rashford, the situation with Marcus Rashford from Fabrizio Romano is that Barcelona actually haven't made their mind up on what they're going to do for all, you know, Rashford. Apparently Marcus Rashford has been seen walking around Manchester in a full kit Barcelona. He still hasn't been prioritised as the signing that Barcelona want. So Fabrizio basically saying that obviously they like Marcus Rashford. They would like to sign Marcus Rashford, but he's not the priority.
13:35They haven't made their choice. They haven't made their mind up yet. so that's not necessarily moving forward as some people might say and what fabrizio said is people over the weekend have been pushing this deal as if it's like discussions it's not barcelona haven't decided yet what they want to do what he also said is um does he he was doing one of fabrizio was doing one of these things where he does it with somebody else they're asking him questions uh and they asked him a question and they said do you expect therefore marcus rashford um will still leave Manchester United this summer or could he could he still come back to which he said this yes this is not going to change re him leaving Manchester United basically Rashford got a clear message from the club from the management from the staff from Ruben Amarin they don't trust him they don't want him as part of the squad so Rashford accepted this decision and now he's waiting to move on to have a new opportunity elsewhere i mean that that that's ridiculously ruthless i mean that that is ridiculously um um clear um we we don't want you we don't we don't trust you um and we want you to move on and it's it's look it's definitively now coming out that it's um i i i'll come back to this is sorry i just i just saw a super chat flash up from somebody saying you were angry that Sir Jim was copying Chelsea.
15:04Have I woken up five years down the line? Have I missed something that we're copying Chelsea, Cosby? Because I don't know what you're talking about in relation to Man United fans or me being angry about Sir Jim Radcliffe copying Chelsea. At what point have we copied Chelsea? If Chelsea are a football club that spent two billion in the last two years that has a high turnover of sales and purchases to get to the top of the mountain quickly at what point has have we copied that because i would say we're completely the opposite to be honest um so yeah look marcus rashford at the moment is in limbo as we know uh fabrizio basically saying that he is not wanted by manchester united and that the trust is gone um interesting certainly interesting i don't really think it's a massive um shock but i think what we have seen is that i think marcus rashford is trying to say that he would still play for manchester united but thankfully we've got an ownership um that is backing a manager in in some sense uh and saying that we don't you know you're not going to be staying at manchester united also coming out this morning i don't know where it came from i don't know whether it came from the Manchester Evening News or whether it came on I'm trying to see where it came from it's about Ganaccio um as well he well I spoke about this yesterday I'm not surprised by this but it's been picked up by um some outlets this morning uh Ganaccio almost certainly will not be included in the pre-season tour that departs for the US tour next uh Tuesday um and is still struggling to find a move that's from the Manchester Evening News um so I mean look it it fits in nicely with where where I think a lot of people will want to discuss which is Mbermo um Mbermo will probably happen this week we may well get here we go at any point if we're being completely honest but a week tomorrow we are flying out to the US for two weeks to play whatever you want to call it pre-season tour PR tour whatever and we will we will have we will have two players at best we will have Embermo and we will have Kunja I think we will have Embermo because it would be incredible not to but we haven't got a goalkeeper the crap goalkeeper that we've got injured um we haven't sold anybody we still haven't got a striker jokeres has now obviously signed for arsenal um but um you know what what what were we expecting that uh in relation to that um people talk about midfielders i don't know why and you're starting to think that for the start of the season it's Pretty much last year's team with Ganacho also gone.
18:12I mean, look, at the end of last season, we lost the Europa League final to a Spurs team that was missing three of its best players. That Europa League final, Man United side, is basically our team this year with Kunja replacing Ganacho. That's quite scary. That is quite scary when you think about it because it's not like it's one new player. Ganacho played a lot last season. So Ganacho's gone out and Konya's come in. It's not like we've added a player. We've lost the player to bring one in. And of course, I'm very happy with Konya, but it's shocking. But sometimes you've just got to break it down.
18:53Sometimes you've just got to break it down and look at it for what it is. And what it is, is the same team from last year with a little bit of fat trimmed off. I'm not talking about the players coming back looking lean. I'm talking about Eriksen and Lindelof have gone. They were never going to get replaced, by the way. That's about 250 grand a week in wages we're saving, which is a million pounds a month. So they were never going to get replaced. Ganacho's going to the go, but hasn't gone yet. And Cunha's come in and that's it. Like, that's Man United's strategy for a new Premier League season where we're playing Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal in our first five games.
19:38Suddenly, and I don't know about anybody else, but you know those first five games, I looked at them and I went, Arsenal are better than us, but we might catch them cold on the first game. Fulham away is tough, but we might beat them. Burnley at home, surely we'll beat them. And then we've got Man City and Chelsea. and I was like, Manchester Derby, you never know what can happen and Chelsea aren't that good. Well, I look at Chelsea now and I go, we could lose three of the first five. We could lose to Arsenal, lose to Chelsea, lose to Man City and draw to Fulham. So we could take one, well, and beat Burnley.
20:14We could take four points from 15. We'd be in the bottom three. So I just think it's, you know what? I don't think I'm missing anything here. I think it's absolutely incredible, the preparation for this very important transfer window. I think it's absolutely incredible that it's basically the same team from the Europa League final. I think it's absolutely incredible that we've known since the middle of June that we've got a very hard start to the season because we've also got Liverpool as well in our first eight games. And it's absolutely incredible that these owners think that this is a good idea.
20:50You do start to wonder, are they actually writing off the season? You do start to wonder, are they actually just so focused on this new stadium now that it basically is, we don't really care about the next five years as long as we make a bit of money off kits and stuff like that. If we get into Europe, it's a bonus because it really is feeling like at the moment that they're either really, really thick, which is a possibility or they're writing the season off and not in the sense that oh let's get relegated but in the sense that we're not even going to try for champions league football what i mean is and i think you've got to clarify this very very quickly when i say writing the season off i think they're writing off any attempt to get top five and i think they're thinking that with what they've got, they'll get somewhere around sixth or seventh, which should be enough for the Europa League.
21:47Remember Barada said they'd factored in Europa League qualification for the next three years or two years or something like that. Obviously, we didn't get it, but I think they're writing off the Champions League. I think they're writing off the top five. I think they've financially looked at it and gone, if we get it, it's a miracle, but let's finish sixth. and and and that's that's just that's that's terrible for a football club like manchester united to be you know approaching a season like that i find it absolutely disgusting and then i find it even more incredible when i get sent a clip of ashley young from yesterday where he's basically sat there saying what did he say he said look it's a big pre-season for manchester united
22:40and he's got to get a good pre-season. He didn't want the job during the season and it was obviously very challenging, but he's got a pre-season now and effectively he... I want to get these words right. So Ashley Young said, there's no more excuses. It's now or never this season. And I think, you know what? That's on national TV. That's on national TV that he's saying, no more excuses. It's now or never. And I just think, like, why is the guy who's interviewing him not saying, Ashley, are you feeling okay? I know it's been very hot in the UK this weekend. Have you got a bit of sunstroke? Because you're talking like an idiot.
23:28What do you mean it's now or never and there's no more excuses? He's had one player in. He sold nobody Some of these players were here from Louis Van Gaal Like a lot of them from Oli A lot of them from Ten Hag He sold nobody He's bought one player Dorgu was a kid and still is a kid And he's got no excuses and it's now or never And you think already Already the story is being written For the start of next season when it goes wrong And that's the media for you They're already ready Talk shit, Sky Sports, the lot of them They're all ready to go straight in on the manager and go, yeah, look at it.
24:09He's had his pre-season. He's meant to be this hipster from Portugal. He's had a pre-season with his style and he can't get it. It doesn't work here. Take it and go back. It doesn't work. And I'm like, this does need calling out because the other ex-players are going to start it as well. And they've got this platform to spout absolute nonsense, sawdust for brains. What do you mean now or never? What do you mean there are no more excuses? I can think of 50 excuses. So what do you mean there's no more excuses? What do you mean it's now or never? What does that even mean? It's incredible that, I mean, look, a lot of people say footballers, geniuses with their feet, not a lot going on up there.
24:52Some of them are quite intelligent. But, you know, I mean, Ashley Young there is out of an absolute stinker. What is it you're actually talking about now or never? No more excuses. Why is the thing that frustrates me is why isn't he actually saying it's disgusting? It's disgusting. This manager didn't want the job halfway through last season. And they said to him, you take it now or never. So he took it. He's shown he wants the Man United job. He took it even knowing that it was going to be difficult for him. the summer comes along and they've not backed him at all they've basically given him a transfer ban it's absolutely disgusting I'm really worried about Man United next season I'm really worried about Ruben Amrim is in an absolutely impossible situation they've not backed him they've not given him players we all know he's got a style of play that needs players to play it they've not given it him he's still working with Ten Haag, Louis van Gaal, Mourinho players, Oli players it's an absolute shambles and it needs calling out what a platform for ashley young to do that and what does he do he sits there and goes now or never no more excuses for amrin it's incredible it's absolutely incredible and look maybe some look some people are amrin mount maybe ashley young's amrin mount i don't know but it doesn't matter whether you're amrin mount or not um the next manager is going to walk into the same scenario at some point people need to wake wake the hell up and realize that you might have an idea of your next manager and I don't know what they want um but your next manager's walking into the same situation we're not even backing managers now you know Omkar says how are two signings a transfer ban mate you're not intelligent enough for this chat I'd go and take a walk you didn't listen to what I said at the start did you I said Amrim is effectively operating under a transfer ban when you see what everyone else is doing we finished 15th we lost to Spurs in the Europa League final and they had three of their best players playing he plays a completely different system to the players that he's got and he's been given one signing and sold nobody of course Sir Jim Radcliffe hasn't just announced he's got a transfer ban what I'm saying is he may as well be operating under a transfer ban because it's absolutely incredible how bad we are and what we are doing comparable to everybody else and what needs to be done.
27:13Scouting Gem says, do you think they want a new manager? Well, I don't know about that. I don't know about that, to be honest with you. I just don't think they know what they're doing. Oh God, I'm finding it really hard this morning to read the Super Chats because for some reason... Oh, here we go. There we go. Okay. Chelsea will drop a lot of points next season with mental and physical health. they've played so many games and they will not have a good pre-season so the fourth place is up for grabs you're talking absolute arse nicholas i'm afraid um i don't want to be offensive i realize i just have been but what are you talking about mental and physical health for chelsea they're off on holiday now for two weeks they've got six very winnable games at the start of the season they don't play anybody in the top half really they've got a huge squad and um i don't I don't see it, to be honest.
28:06I don't. I think if they had to play Liverpool or Arsenal in their first three games, I'd worry about them. But they've basically got two squads, like Interesting Vid says. So, Joy, we've done that one. Who needs players, Mark? We are lean FC, says Dan. I mean, there are people genuinely who are going to get excited about more pictures of United players looking trim. Mark, listening from the beach in Turkey, it's so sad watching the club I love. We all fall in love into the abyss while everyone is progressing. It is, Mark. it is um hope you're enjoying your holiday anyway kyle says hi mark greetings from the states what would you think of memphis up front only asking because of what's happening with his contract and uh yeah i wouldn't know mate come on you know i know we're desperate but these that's just that's just depressing really um rahul says it's been very obvious since the last couple of manager changes that the ownership is problematic on a serious note what can the fans do to force the change?
29:04Nothing, Rahul, unfortunately. Patrick Lynch says, they said we're broke and yet no investment has been made. They said we would be ruthless and we did it by sacking low paid employees. They said we would be best in class and yet we hired a first team director of football. Zero truth, zero trust for me. Patrick, you've just reminded me of a very good point that was made when I was doing the watch along on That's Football last night. And I want to explain this to everybody. Todd Bowley took over a club that was in trouble financially, um chelsea and he has got shareholders and we call it todd bowley but it's blue lake isn't it or something like that there are investors behind todd bowley so jim ladcliffe irrelevant he wanted to buy chelsea he didn't get them god knows what he would have done well done chelsea um but basically what he did is he took over a club that over the last few years and under robin abramovich were being um clear lake it's called sorry um basically chelsea were investigated numerous times for, you know, unusual transfer activity, whatever you want to call it.
30:04And I think they did have a ban for one year, didn't they? When Lampard was there and they've been investigated again. So Chelsea are a club that UEFA and the Premier League have got an eye on in relation to transfer activity. And yet they keep doing it. They've sold hotels to themselves. They sold the women's team for, was it 190 million quid? And most people say it's not worth 190 million quid. So I don't know why it went for 190 million quid. And they sold it basically to themselves, shareholders or something like that. People go, that's not fair. That's not fair. That's not fair. They've not been charged with anything.
30:41They're not going to get charged with anything. They're not going to get done with anything. Have they found loopholes in the rules? Yes. Apparently it's 300 million they sold the women's team for. so let me just take that women's team right why did chelsea sell the women's team and then keep it effectively because what todd bowley wants to do is get their money into chelsea legitimately so they can buy players all chelsea want to do is catch up with liverpool and arsenal and man city as quick as possible and to do that the chelsea strategy is we're not going to do it by sacking people and buying 16-year-olds.
31:22We're going to do it by buying players that they want. So they basically sold the women's team to get a couple of hundred million pounds into the club legitimately so they can sign players.
31:39Manchester United could do the same. Now, people are saying Chelsea are a corrupt club. Where's the charge? Where are the charges? Where's the illegality from it? It might be dodgy, but it's still legal, says Tech Yeah, so look, I don't agree with people who say Oh, Chelsea selling the women's team, it's dodgy Do you want people like Jao Pedro, Esteval, Enzo Fernandes Or do you want another year of Casemiro, Harry Maguire, etc? Nothing against those players, but Chelsea would move them on to get better players in Of course they would. Now, somebody's saying Man United selling the women's teams a bit dodgy, but Chelsea have still got a women's team.
32:25It's still very, very good. They did not win a tournament or something. I'm sure they were on the telly a few weeks ago. My daughter played Chelsea's under-15s in a final the other week. They're bloody good. They're still part of Chelsea. They've just basically moved them somewhere. They've not been disbanded. They're still there. It's a loophole in the Premier League rules that Chelsea have exploited, the same the way they did with the hotel. But my point is, we're not getting into a, they won the WSL unbeaten, says Stormtrooper. There you go. My point is, people talk about Chelsea going, oh, they shouldn't be doing this.
32:59They shouldn't be doing that. They still own Chelsea Football Club, really. It's just been moved. The point that people are missing here is that Chelsea have just won the Club World Cup. Chelsea are in the Champions League and Chelsea want to win the Premier League and the Champions League in the next couple of years. And who's to say they won't? The reason they're going to do it is because they've got owners that will find loopholes that are legal to get money into the club. It's called creative thinking. They've got... Todd Bowley's probably got access to a billion pounds, but because of FFP and PSR, he can't get it in.
33:33So his job is to find a way to get that billion pounds into Chelsea so they can buy players and compete. Why aren't Man United doing that? because what Man United do is we can't because we've got PSR and FFP, but if they wanted to, they could. The answer to the question is we don't have owners that want to put their money into the football club. So Jim Radcliffe and Joel Glazer are very rich. They do not want to put their money in. If they did, they would find a way to do it. And that's the difference between Chelsea and Manchester United because you get people who are supporting the Glazers and Ineos by going, they can't do it because of PSR and FFP.
34:17They can. They just don't want to. And Stratford Elite is quite right saying it's cheating. We know they're hacking the system. Do you really care? Do you really care about that? Because I'm not talking about whether it's cheating or loopholing or whatever you want to call it. Does Chelsea want to get their money into that club so they can spend it? Yes. Do Manchester United want to put their money into the club so we can spend it. No. And that's it. I don't care about women's teams or hotels. The bottom line is Chelsea legitimately want to get money from their owners into the club so they can be one of the best teams in the world.
34:57Manchester United owners do not want to put money into the football club. That's it. So you can moan about the legitimacy of selling your women's team or selling a hotel. But Man United, the Ineos could sponsor the bloody, it could be Old Trafford sponsored by Ineos for 20 million. We won't do it. They won't do anything. They won't do anything like that. And that's my point. Chelsea are where they are because they want to spend money. They want to catch up. Manchester United are doing it completely the other way. But basically, it's not like Sir Jim Radcliffe has sat there and gone, End of the day Champers At the end of the day Do I want to put A billion pounds Of my money Into this club And buy some of the best players In the world To make us catch up With Arsenal Champers Or Do I Want to spend no money And prove to the world That it can be done Without spending money Champers And The answer is He hasn't Took that choice He's gone The only way We're doing this At the end of the day Is by doing it without spending my money.
36:05Champers. And that's the strategy. And all these people can talk about Barada Bonanza and wonderful Wilcox, but they are working under an ownership model that doesn't want to spend their money. So they won't spend it. Mascara to Arsenal. Here we go, says Arrow. And you know what? In the next hour, there'll be something else to Chelsea or Liverpool or whatever. This is what we're up against. Again, you know, this is what we're talking about again we're talking about an ownership model that is just watching the world go by um trying to cut costs um and it won't work it just won't work it's not going to work um we assumed bringing amarin mentor personnel overhaul glenios obviously brought him to miraculous um into miraculously coaching previous managers players to suit him says sam um vinnie says i actually remember john victor in the club world cup versus seattle sounders he was the reason he won the match sign him now uh you angry you were angry so jim was copying chelsea and you mocked chelsea i don't know i don't know what planet you're from cosy i don't know you're from an alternate universe i don't know what you're talking about angry copying chelsea at what point have we copied chelsea um romano said osmond wage was 16 million 16 million euros a year that's 266k a week why can't you afford that marcus you're a legend i'm really glad that you brought that in so a little bit of news here um fabrizio romano basically confirming that the deal for victor osseman will be um 75 million euros in total with 40 million euros paid up front and 35 million paid in future years so they've basically done an installment deal um the wage is 266 000 pounds a week which is about 16 million euros a year but remember that's net.
38:00That's tax free. To earn£266 ,000 a week in the UK after tax, you would need to earn£425 ,000 a week. So yes, it's£266 ,000 a week in Turkey, but that's after tax. So in the UK, we would have to pay in excess of£400 ,000, which we can't do. We can't. And I know Rio's there saying we should do that that's just absolute nonsense we can't we can't do that we can't do that um sticking with the striker situation though i've got no idea where we're going to go ollie watkins is now being linked to saudi as we reported yesterday um calvert lewin's desperate to come to us absolutely not we need to do petitions if that happens um same with callum wilson you can't have an injury prone striker either um the one thing i would say is that i was thinking about the striker situation when I was watching Chelsea last night.
38:55And I don't know what anybody else's position is on this, but look, Victor Jocherez, I get it. He's gone to Arsenal. How embarrassing is that, by the way? We bring in a manager who built a system of players that suit his system and two of the best ones are going to our rivals. I just find this really weird, right? He built a team at Sporting that played a very distinctive system and knew that system really, really well. And he created that team and he created a lot of these players. The two best players that suit that system are going to Chelsea and Arsenal. Kenda is going to Chelsea and Jochrez is going to Arsenal.
39:39And Ruben Amrin plays for Managers Man United. So over the next year, hopefully you'll stay in his post, he's going to watch two of the players that he made great in his system play for two clubs in our league. How do you drop the ball on those two players? Well, yeah. But what I was going to say as well is obviously Jokeres, I understand why we were in for him. Osman, I understand why we would want to be in for him. And I know he signed for Chelsea, but he's basically Chelsea's backup striker. What were we thinking about Liam De Lape other than he's cheap? Like, I watched him play quite a bit in the Club World Cup.
40:22I mean, half an hour's here and there. And I saw him quite a bit for Ipswich, not loads. But I don't get it. Like, João Pedro is so much better than him, technically. And I thought to myself, why were we looking at, why was he our guy? Why was he the guy that Man United were prioritising above anybody else? He would have 100 % been a work in progress. You can see it. I think at Chelsea over the next year or two, he might become half decent, but he's not going to play ahead of João Pedro. and look I don't disagree with the normal one saying he's better than Rasmus but mate we're Manchester United trying to get into the top four we need the Champions League to survive as a relevant club Liam de Lapp was never going to do that he was just going to be another learner driver 100 % I just I just I don't see why we hired why we went for him unless it was just money in which case everything just seems to be to come down to the words cheap champers um romano done that one from her uh from you hamuda says you know what's more disappointing than the only situation it's the fans and how useless we are we talk but never act we are the real villain says hamuda you can't blame the fan base for what's happening at the football club uh jm welcome to members club thank you very much uh piggy says i think sir jim is smart for not buying yokarez avoiding bad transfers gives us room to build foundations to finish in the top four do you agree i think you're talking ass uh delit and agata and remember what do you mean sir jim is smart for not buying yokarez we didn't choose not to buy him he chose not to come to us delit and agata need to prove themselves as ggmu i think delit already had a good season um marlo voice marlo fc says sir jim's voice look at liverpool new manager same old team and they won the lead no reason we can't do the same it's not all about spending big is it although i do love chelsea but that's a story for another day that's the gym apparently hayden moore's welcome to members i mean just just to answer that obviously marlowe's taking the piss but um liverpool i have heard moronic united fans say we don't need to spend money look at what slot did with liverpool which is absolutely incredible because slots inherited a liverpool team that maybe could have won the league the season that clop left um they were very very close um yeah he inherited a team that was basically full of league and champions league winners that was very very close to winning the title and then it went and won the title amram's not inheriting that aiden moore welcome to the members club thank you very much anders says the crazy thing is we're going on about sales but the players were trying to sell didn't play for his last season as they were out on loan uh i think you're going over the top wait until they finish the window it's the 14th of july always been slow at transfers as michael um very very happy that you've put that comment in there michael total respect i will answer it though um are we going over the top by not being happy with manchester united's transfer summer um it's only the 14th of july um the 14th of july michael is factually halfway through a transfer season um the season starts three weeks on sunday um any player that we buy now is not going to get a preseason and they're not going to be ready for the first game of the season either um every other team has bought four or five players um i think michael it's great that you think this is not something to panic about um but i think it's very much something to panic about i think it's been an absolute shambles of a transfer window and i think it will continue to be one and also we are now approaching the last few weeks of a transfer window where desperation kicks in.
44:07Players that you want to sell get sold for cheap or go on loan and players that you want to buy become more expensive. This is not part of the plan, Michael. This is not part of the plan. What do you think about good days are coming? They're not. Reflex. It's sad to see how we've fallen. Only way to save this club is for Glinius to somehow leave and a new owner can pick up, says William. Mark, I met Ashley Young at Finsley Park train station on Friday. I knew he said that about Amrim, I would have decked him, says GK. Forget the summer, even in the next two years, with Champions League qualification, I don't see a high quality striker being available.
44:42So what do we do, says GJMU? I mean, look, I'd love Amrim to turn Rasmus into the next Yoko Rez. And I know it's the morning show, I've not had anything to drink. I would love to see that happen. I would love Agate to become the next big thing. And of course, there's a very big chance that none of these things will happen but i think where we are if you want a positive take on where we are i think the only way back is if we somehow have one of the greatest managers that's ever managed the game i think ruben amram basically has got to pull off a magic trick from this position and the only way he's going to do that is by turning it around with these players um and i can't think of a manager that's ever done it and he has he's already on thin ice so let's not forget we've seen the vulnerabilities of amrim system with these players already it's not like he's coming in without us seeing what happened last season i think it's i think that's the only way back i think it's tough stephen campbell thank you very much for your super chat rohi welcome to the members club thank you very much united are never going to recover until the greedy yanks and the broke night sell the club cash has always ruled football but never as much as now so slazy um are chelsea the best team in the world is rajaf if you want to call yourself the best team in the world that's fine um mario says that's a mint beckham poster and chelsea are just doing smart business moves they know how to play the game uh yeah thank you mario uh yov says the root cause the club's decline is our lousy incapable owners the inability to sell the deadwood and buy the players Amrum needs is on them.
46:22Edward V has given five memberships. Very apt. Thank you very much, Edward. We can only do small things, but stop buying merch can be the first step, says Christian. It's sad that we're back at that point again because it doesn't do anything. But I'd love it if no one bought the away kit. I'd love it if no one bought the third kit, but they will. They'll buy the Inanna kit as well. Man United are a merchandise dream, as we know um in the time that in burmo negotiations have been going on ask the love of signs six players says david david palmer injury could wreck chelsea's seasons as ggmu mate a cunyre injury could wreck ours as well so don't be wishing injuries on anyone mark these ex-players who think amram is getting wrong tactics surprisingly not talking about transfer inactivity peak agenda the reason most ex-players don't say anything bad about man united is because they want to be on the gravy train of earning money in ambassadarial roles and all sorts like that.
47:21That's why they don't say anything bad. Very few United players, Roy Keane will, because he's never going to do it. But most X-Men United players, especially of the lower quality, they don't say anything bad because there's always going to be invites and money to be earned from being an ambassador or turning up at this, that and the other. So even though they've retired, they still played the party line i mean look somebody said it a couple of years ago a couple of certain man united players have said things about the glazes but they played under them for many years and never said a word when they were picking up a wage from them so footballers ex-footballers maybe they maybe they're not as motivated as you or i would be to say things about what's really going on at the football club even when they've retired they're still under the thumb um william says it's sad to see how we fall and only way to save the club is for glenios to sort of done that one what i would say is and i think it's in a general football sense it's the same for newcastle it's the same for tottenham it's the same for spurs it's the same for brighton and it's the same for manchester united the gap is going to get bigger and bigger the chelsea have 200 million pounds in two months from winning the club world cup and getting into the top four 200 million pounds of revenue, pure profit revenue.
48:35I mean, what can you do with that? And they've learned it in two months. That's without the players that they're selling. That's without what their own revenue was. So you can't deal with it. And Timmy says, Brighton have got a plan. Brighton are never getting in the top five, mate. Brighton are Brighton and they do well at their level. We're Manchester United. We can't look at Brighton and go, they've got a plan. We're Manchester United. Our plan has to be at the top, not even in the top four we now dream of fifth we used to be a club that second place was a failure um but i'm absolutely convinced in modern football there is only one way and that is money money is the only way back the only way back and chelsea have proven it in the last two years uh obviously man city did it you have to spend money and at the moment we don't seem to have money to spend and that's the big problem.
49:30Anyway, thanks everyone for watching. At some point, we might be reacting to a here we go. I'm hoping the two o 'clock show, I might be able to do it in a nicer setting than this. Although to be honest, I'm not even using lights. The lighting's actually quite good. Nice to have David with me as well. Have a great day. Thanks everyone for watching. Thank you for all your super chats, by the way. We did get to read them because I've got my little mini, whatever you call it. I haven't had to read them off the scheme. um absolute legends felt a bit like an eight o 'clock show the eight o 'clock shows are the ones where it's been the last week you know i look forward to those and obviously we've got an eight o 'clock show tonight take care everyone speak to you later i'm probably still going to be with you a minute because i've got to figure out how to end the stream when i'm on my phone which um i think i have to press a button somewhere um but yeah look i want to just say right at the start you can put get out ganacho rashford you can you can say it's now or never for amrim and there's no more excuses.
50:25But I just woke up this morning and thought, look at Chelsea. I mean, they're the literal blueprint to catch the Liverpools and the Arsenal's and the Man City's. How have they done it? By finding ways to put money in their club so they can spend more money. And if you think other clubs aren't going to do that, Newcastle, etc., they're loaded. The loopholes are coming. And I tell you what, if Man City don't get done with the 1-1-5, there's going to be a lot more loopholes coming as well. Man United, I'll leave you with this, and people who've left early aren't going to get this top corner pearler.
50:58So Jim Ratcliffe and the Glazers actually like PSR and FFP because it restricts what owners can put into the club and makes you reliant on what your club earns. And Man United will always earn decent money from revenue and gates, receipts and merchandise. What Man United don't want is football clubs being able to put their own money in, their owners. Because we're done if that happens. because we haven't got owners to do it. Whereas Villa, Chelsea, Newcastle do. So we could fall even lower. Take care, everyone. Speak to you all in a bit. Found it.