129: Mbuemo TRANSFER Setback! INEOS Failing AMORIM!

0:00Good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. And it's not the news you're going to want this morning, to be honest with you. We're talking about another setback for Manchester United. We're talking about another delay for Manchester United. And we're talking about David Ornstein's update in relation to Brian M. Bermow. I will read you this update right now. The gap between Manchester United and Brentford on the valuation of Mbermo remains considerable. There have been no significant developments over the past few weeks.

0:35The two sides are several million pounds apart and a deal is still not imminent, but talks continue. So not close. The gap between Manchester United and INEOS remains considerable. There is no significant developments over the past few weeks and the two sides are still working on a deal, but it is not imminent. So look, that is where we are this morning in relation to that. Absolutely incredible. I think that there are a few things that need to be said here. First of all, I would say that Ineos are no better than the Glazers. When you look at the last 18 months, they've had long enough now and they have not shown any level of improvement compared to the Glazers.

1:18And there will be people this morning getting their knickers in a twist about this statement. But I think when you look at the summer transfer window so far, and obviously the eight o 'clock shows, we've spoken about this in more depth. And Andrew Lee says no ambition whatsoever. I think you put this down to two things at this point. Let's just talk about David Ornstein for a moment and what he is saying. We have a new kit out tomorrow. I said last night, I'm absolutely convinced that something happens in the next 24 hours to help Man United sell that kit. Logically, that would be the Brian M.

1:49Bermot deal. It could still be the Kaby Menuh new contract. But it doesn't look like it is going to be the Brian M. Bermot deal. And we've been working on this since the beginning of June, and it is now the middle of July. We are closer to the end of the window than we were to the start of this deal. Some people are saying walk away. I'll speak about that in a moment. But I want to talk about why we're in this situation. Why is it Chelsea can get João Pedro in the space of a couple of days? Why is it that Spurs are getting players in a couple of weeks? Why are Newcastle getting players down to two things?

2:21Either Ineos are frauds, which is what a lot of people are saying this morning, or they're completely out of their depth. Either way, I don't give a damn. You are not good enough to be running a club of the prestige and size of Manchester United. You're exposing yourselves every day to a point where it's actually getting sad. I actually wouldn't go as far as saying that I feel sorry for them, but it's actually embarrassing how bad they are. I literally think any Man United fan could do a better job than them. I tell you what, you know what it is? It's an example of how not everybody can run a football club, even if they are billionaires.

3:03They are so, so bad at it. We know the club at the moment is riddled with underperformers and unhappy people, but they are struggling on a major, major level here. And this is just embarrassing. This is just utterly embarrassing to be in a situation where the deal's not off. The deal's not off. People are saying the deal's not off. The deal is not off. I'm not worried. We're not saying that at all. What we're saying is it's not progressing at all It's not progressing to a point where Manchester United can get this deal done quickly It's not close The gap is considerable Now we know we offered 55 million plus add-ons Now the considerable gap I would imagine is You know what I actually think is happening here And I don't think Richie says they couldn't run a bath, never mind a football club um it seals it says deal off for the show it says deal off question mark mate there's a question mark go and go and learn a bit of english um it's and and also we're talking about rasmus as well it's a new show so there's also inter buying a striker um and that deal for rasmus being off but thanks for ruining the show you know you know it's a feed into what the show is all about but uh maybe go and look up question marks in future but i think where i am on this one is that this is a brief of elite level.

4:37This is a brief from the club that they've put this out because they know this deal is not close. They've put this deal out to temper your opinions. I think they've put this out because we were starting to think, hmm, you know what? There's a new kit tomorrow. Maybe the Brian Mbermo deal will happen. And I think that's why I'd love it to be wrong, but David Ornstein's not going to be wrong. David Ornstein's not the sort of person that puts out when miles off and then an hour later we get here we go. That's not the sort of expertise and credibility that David Ornstein has built over the last few years.

5:23So when he says it's not imminent, there's a considerable gap. You start to worry about the plane to the US a week today. That's what Manchester United have got to do. People are saying walk away. I'll just hit that one straight away because I think there's a reason why we're in this situation. We can't walk away. if we walk away we admittedly go for plan whatever b c d e it might take us long to negotiate and the club that we go and speak to will overcharge so let's say we walk away and we go and look at players that we've also been linked to well most of them are gone now kudos was was one he's gone Semenyu's still at Bournemouth but he would be expensive so you're walking away to something that's not as good as Mbermo and look, let me just say the reason we want Mbermo is because Mbermo is the best option he is a good player the problem we've got here and I said this a couple of weeks ago and I don't know what people think I think United have got themselves into what I called the Jared Branthwaite zone I think United and Ineos have come into this with no football expertise and have basically said, we're not going to pay money anymore.

6:48We're not going to pay big money anymore. We're Manchester United. We're not going to get ripped off anymore. Right? And I think what they've done is they've backed themselves into this corner where essentially they cannot back down. They don't want to pay£60 million for Umbermo because they think they're being ripped off. But Brentford will not take anything less than£60 million. And I think that's what we're in this situation now. We've drawn this line in the sand that we won't be ripped off anymore. were not being ripped off. But essentially, many of you have said it. I've seen loads of people saying it online.

7:33Apparently, I keep cutting out. Let me just have a quick look at this. Might be able to do something.

7:43That might improve it. Let me know. Let me know.

7:51Well, what was I talking about? Yeah, so basically what I'm saying is that I personally think, and you can say it's an assumption, you can say what you like, but I genuinely do think the reason it's taken so long is because it's not about Amarin, it's not about Mbamo, it's actually about saving face, because that's what we have in charge of Manchester United at the moment. We have people that are egotistical, based on PR, and I think that they know the minute they pay 60 million pounds, everybody is going to say, you took seven weeks to do a deal you could have done in seven days. So I think what they're trying to do, and I think it comes from the top, is if they're going to take seven, eight weeks on a deal, they want to put themselves in a situation whereby they can say, look, we took seven weeks, but we got the deal done for 55 million.

8:53And I think it's a PR exercise. I really do. And I think that's what they're telling David Ornstein. I think they're basically saying we're nowhere near. We're not going to walk away. But I mean, this deal could... I wouldn't be sat here now saying this is going to happen before the US tour. It's a shock, but it's not a surprise. He might not be ready for the Arsenal game. And I know that's still like four weeks ago, but he might not be ready for the Arsenal game. So it is where we are at the moment. It's obviously very, very concerning. It's a shock. It is a shock. It's not a surprise, but it is a shock to be in a situation where we're not actually close.

9:37I mean, I don't know how you can't be close. It was two weeks ago, certain aggregators out there were telling us the deal was done and it was just the structure of the add-ons. But I think if we offered£60 million, we'd have got this deal done. But I do just want to repeat this. I said it on Twitter this morning. Say what you like. We're all entitled to our opinions. Ineos are so bad at their job, they're actually worse than what we were with Ineos, with the Glazers. We were better on the football side of things under the Glazers than we are with Ineos. This is our worst summer transfer window since David Moyes.

10:18This is the worst. David Moyes came into the club and he never should have got the job, but he had a terrible summer transfer window. I think we didn't buy anybody till August. We bought Fellaini, et cetera. This is, without doubt, the worst summer transfer window we've had. And I think that Ineos are an absolute disgrace. I've heard a lot of people calling them a lot of names this morning I think fraud is always a hard word to use I wouldn't go that far But they're definitely, definitely incompetent And they have had 18 months So you have to look at it and say What a disaster of a summer it's been And I don't know whether it's strategic I don't know whether it's sabotage You almost feel like it is sabotage but they're sucking the love out of the club, aren't they?

11:09They're sucking the life out of the club. I mean, if you're a Liverpool fan, you've won the league, you look at all your transfer activity and you're like, this is a club that's trying to be ambitious. Obviously, Liverpool fans at the moment are on the floor because of the tragedy of what happened to Jota. But beyond that, the way the football club is being run and what's happening in the supportive slot, you can't criticise that. The same with Arsenal, the same with Chelsea. Manchester United I mean it's incredible it's incredible what they're trying to do and I don't even understand what it is they're trying to do but as I say breaking news David Ornstein Manchester United are not close to signing Brian Emberno and there is a distance between the Brentford and Manchester United evaluation of course the biggest explanation of this is that Brentford are in the right and we are in the wrong We cannot pay£62 million for Cunha and then not pay£62 million for Umbermo.

12:10And I think this is always going to be the mic drop. We are not in the right. We are in the wrong. We are desperate. We finished 15th. We need to get into the top five. We cannot and are not in a situation where we can sit there with Brentford and go, shut up, you little club. We're Manchester United and we're going to bully you to give us your player on the cheap. Brentford finished higher than us. Brentford are therefore better than us. We finished 15th. We are desperate. And we also paid£62 million for Cunha, who is basically the same season as in Burmo. I don't know what we're playing at, but we're in the wrong on this one.

12:51And also pre-season started. And also we still don't have that player. So we're in the wrong. We're completely in the wrong. And And I don't think there's anybody out there who is trying to defend the Glazers at this point because it's embarrassing. But the scary thing is they just sit there and they sit there and just put up with it, which is incredible. I agree with Percy. We can't really walk away. I think walking away would be a huge error because it's like building a wall, isn't it? And the wall is taking longer than you want, but you've half built the wall. Do you knock it all down to start again?

13:37I mean, you've still got to build a wall. So I just think we're not walking away. And even David Ornstein says we're not walking away, but we're in a big, big, big situation here. And I find it incredible. And it's also hard to see amongst the moaning and the frustration, how do you solve this solution? If I'm Brentford, Brian M. Burma is in training. He's not on strike and I'm glad he's not on strike. That's professionalism, but he's in training. He will play pre-season games. I mean, that to me is a positive. At least he actually is in training, but he will play Brentford's first game of the season.

14:17I remember this happening with James Milner when he went from Aston Villa to Man City years ago. He wanted to go, but he remained professional. And I think he played the first two games of the season for Villa and he played well. I think he was man of the match in one of them. So Mbermo will play those games. So from Brentford's point of view, you almost get to a point of where you go, we don't want to sell you. If we get the money, we will sell you. But in the meantime, will just carry on as normal. So we're not in a good situation here at all. And it's very difficult to defend it. It's very difficult indeed, especially when the club are briefing to try and make themselves look good.

14:56Very, very, very disappointing. Get your comments in relation to that. Let us know what your thoughts are. Just on the goalkeeper situation, there has been some updates coming in from Laurie Whitwell this morning, also with The Athletic. So what he is basically saying is that rasmus hoylan to inter deal off um that is not likely to happen now inter have bought a 21 year old called bonnie um and they are no longer interested in rasmus hoylan so that is another door closed in relation to him uh frank says if any if they knew anything about anything they should have put embermo before paying cunha's release clause um they should have yeah yeah but we were working on that a lot a lot longer to be honest welcome to members club stewart appreciate that thank you very much for that um also got a couple of super chats here still at stuart kelpatrick welcome to members club jeremy says at the end of the day we will be where we will where we want to be regardless of the incompetence okay for years we almost only bought players that no other team is competing for that's a big red flag no wonder we are where we are says marlow the most embarrassing thing isn't the Mbermo deal it's the fact they can't get rid of five players who want to leave the club with the worst run teams as team team infinity uh Mike Michele says people say walk away when we can't do quick deals and we can't do more than one deal at a time because we're focusing on one look at Vlahovic Ryan says could go from Mbermo to Dibbling if they don't pull their finger out who's to say Liverpool or Spurs don't steal Mbermo United have taken too long and uh I tell you what I don't think that will happen because Mbermo wants to come to Manchester United.

16:38But if I was a Spurs or a Newcastle, I'd just drop 60 million on the table and see what happens. Andrew McMaster says, it's my birthday today. Happy birthday, Andrew. I was hoping for Mbermo. Here we go. Doesn't look like today from Belfast going to have some champers instead. I enjoy that, Andrew. DK's bought his first match ticket three days ago against Chelsea after resisting the Glazers for years. I already regret it. Was hoping to see new players. Rob says, if Mbermo wants to come, he should go on strike to help the deal. If it goes on longer i think united should pull out as brentford are being unreasonable rob i didn't think it was possible to agree with you disagree with you on three different things i don't think he should go on strike i think it lacks class um i don't think uh united should pull out because where would we go and i don't think brentford are being unreasonable asking for 60 million pounds for a player that um we've only offered 55 for um i'm fuming and burmo should have been signed weeks ago, says Emily Derry.

17:34If we've not made progress, what the hell have United been doing for the past six weeks? Ryan says, imagine where you'd be with Qatari ownership. These owners are shameless, says Ridderman and Oyvind. Welcome. Thank you very much for your super chat there. Hi, Mark. I think with Ineos, it's getting worse. I don't think there is someone in the team having knowledge in football, says Yaneet. I completely agree. Jadon Sancho was at the Wireless Festival, just goes to show he doesn't care about football or Man United. Cares about his pocket, mate, Jack. Why are we only doing one signing at a time with a seven week lead time?

18:03How are we meant to sell and bring in three more players like this? No accountability on Ineos and the new team. There is no accountability, John. The club is being run into oblivion. It's incredible to me that there's not a billionaire out there that supports the football club that hasn't stepped forward and said, right, I've got the money. I've got the people. I'm getting these people out. Get behind me. It's almost like a political campaign. There doesn't seem to be that billion out there, out there that loves Manchester United because I genuinely think, I was thinking about this last night, that's what you need.

18:35You know, like the Red Knights, you need a really powerful billionaire to step forward and say, I'm getting Man United no matter what. And then, you know, they coordinate with their money the campaign to get them out. Mark, they're asking for 70 million, not 60 for God's sakes. Ali, can you tell me where that story comes from, Ali, and stop being a Glazer lover? You're falling for the spin, mate. We haven't offered 60. When we offer 60, that deal will get done. I don't know where 70 is coming from, apart from the Glazers' arse. Morning, Mark. Can I get a happy birthday shout out to me? My name is OJ.

19:13Happy birthday, OJ. OJ. OK, so let me carry on with a bit of news. So Rasmus Hoyland to Inter looks like that's off, if it was ever on. Inter have gone ahead and bought a player already. In relation to the goalkeepers, this is also coming out from Laurie Whitwell. John Victor of Botafogo is an option for Manchester United, but he would be an option if Biinder moves on. Martinez, Emi Martinez of Aston Villa was only an option if Anana moved on. And that's, I mean, look, I take John Victor as a replacement for Biinder. Of course I would. And as a backup, I would hope that maybe he could force Anana out of the team.

19:56But it's depressing. It's depressing that the player that we're actually looking for is a replacement for a backup goalkeeper. And there is someone like Emi Martinez that would improve as massively that we can't go for because we can't get rid of Anana. um yeah yeah i mean look it it's an interesting update effectively we can't get a decent keeper because we can't get rid of banana and we can't get um um a striker in because we haven't even brought embermo yet so it's it's looking like that dreadful thing that i said on sunday night you expect this to be a big week because next week we're going on tour but actually there's no guarantee that we'll do anything this week is there there really isn't um i don't want to rub salt in the wound by the way but there is actually an update coming in from sky um i would say take a seat and uh have a phone ready so that you can phone a friend for some reassurance for this one.

21:02Maybe take the rest of the day off. This is coming in from Sky and they are saying that Manchester United are one of the clubs interested in signing Nicholas Jackson. See you later.

21:25I just had to take a moment to compose myself there. Yeah, look, I'll be honest with Manchester United. Whatever my opinion means, whatever your opinion means, I'll tell you now, if you're worried about players that come into this football club and sink from the pressure, don't bring Nicholas Jackson to this football club because I have ripped the piss out of him at Chelsea for two years. If he comes to Manchester United, I will not give him a chance. I will not back him. I will not get behind him. I think he's shit. So that's one person who is just going to say shit from day one. And I'm telling you now, there'll be plenty of others.

22:06I'm loving this from Ryan, who's got a Chelsea logo. I'm telling you, Mark, Jackson is a world beater. Look, you've done enough damage, Chelsea. You've won the Club World Cup. You've took top four. You've doubled your money on Madiwaki. Don't come in here telling us that Nicholas Jackson is going to be a world beater when you know exactly what you're doing. You just want us to buy him. We've already took Mason Mount off you for 55 million pounds. The bloody groundsman's been on the pitch at Old Trafford more than he has. I'm not falling for that nonsense. No, I'll be very clear on this. I cannot in any way, shape or form get behind Nicholas Jackson because there's too many clips on Mats football of me ripping the piss out of him.

22:48But if I started going, oh, what a good signing, I'd look like an absolute twat. So no, I can't. There are players out there that I will give a chance to if we went and got Ramos from PSG. It's not my choice, but I would still give him a chance. I can't give Nicholas Jackson a chance. So if Manchester United are going to be... And also as well, I don't care whether it's prime Michael Jackson from the bad album. we can't put more money into Chelsea's pocket Chelsea I'd rather get Janet Jackson as well yeah you cannot put more money into Chelsea's pocket considering Chelsea finished fourth and that's hypothetically where we want to be we cannot put more money into their pocket so they can go and buy better players so no I can't I can't I can't get on board with that I can't be excited about that.

23:42I can't back that. If you want to, it's a free world, but I cannot get behind a deal for Nicholas Jackson and will not and am not and cannot. So no, not going to happen.

23:57Kevin says, why would Ineos be so inept in football operation? Mate, if I was a billionaire because I ran the biggest pub chain in the world, I owned pubs all over the world and I was a billionaire for it. And then I suddenly said, you know what? I'm now going to manage a cricket team and I'm in charge. Do you think that cricket team would do well? Well, it would do because I'd know what I'm doing. Even though I don't know loads about cricket, I'd go and get people who did. The problem is this is a vanity project. So Jim clearly thinks he knows about football and he doesn't. And he's clearly instilled principles that just won't work.

24:41Well, at the end of the day, we're not going to pay what Brentford wants. And I don't care who they are. I've got more money than them and I'm not doing it. Sampers. And I think that that's the sad reality is that we have got people in charge who are rich enough to buy a stake in the club and have a say in it, but they don't know what they're doing. I genuinely would back any of us to sit in the boardroom today and change the fortunes of that club within two hours. We'd have the Brentford deal done and we'd be moving forward on deals for Rashford and Ganacho very, very quickly. Because I guarantee in that boardroom at the moment, we're not signing Embermo because we don't want to pay 60 and we're not selling Rashford because we don't want to send him out on loan.

25:27and we're not selling Ganacho because we don't want to sell him for anything less than 60. 35 plus add-ons is what you take for Ganacho now. Rashford's going to have to go on loan and in Burma, you've got to pay 60 million pounds for. And if there's nothing left after that, there's nothing left. But you can't just, it's almost like we're sat there going, if we pay Brentford 60 million and we take 35 for Ganacho, there's nothing left to spend. Well, if there's nothing left to spend, at least you've got Mbamo in and you've got rid of Ganaccio. I mean, it's not like Brentford are going to go in three weeks' time, you can have Mbamo for 55, and in three weeks' time Villa are going to go there, 60 million for Ganaccio.

26:07It's only going to get worse. It seems to me like the situation is grave. And in that grave situation, they're pushing it down the road going, well, we can't do that. We can't do that. We have to do that. We can only do what we can do. I'm not expecting any signings after Mbremo at the moment because simply there is no talk of any signings beyond that. PJ says£35 million for Ganacho is shocking. Well, look, Chelsea are still interested in Ganacho. I think it was mentioned yesterday by a couple of outlets that Chelsea is still interested in Ganacho, much to the annoyance of some Chelsea fans. But I've got to say, if I was a Chelsea fan, this is exactly what you do, really.

26:54Because he's 20, is he 21 now? He's 20 or 21. Look what you've just done with Madiwiki. So Ganaccio has an amazing ceiling. He has a bad attitude. But when it comes to football availability, he's never injured. so you bring in ganacho you get him in your team there's plenty of opportunity you know he does reasonably well even sancho did reasonably well and he's crap um ganacho is way better than sancho and in two or three years time you know maybe acts like a pratt again but you sell him you'll make the money back i i think it's a i think it's a straightforward deal for chelsea i wouldn't be surprised if they did it but we can't ask for 40 million we can't ask for 45 million we can't because we've devalued the player.

27:41Rightly or wrongly, we have devalued the player and he's devalued himself. Do you think we'll pivot towards Tyler Dibbling?

27:50Alan Pardew on Talk Sport, or as I say, Talk Shit, said this today. Manchester United could get relegated. Now, some of you will absolutely love that statement. I will give you reality over fantasy because as bad as Manchester United are, relegation won't happen. And I don't know why people have to take it to extremes. We should be in the top four in the Premier League every single year. And fourth or below is disgusting. 15th is a disgrace. If you bring in Tyler Dibbling and you don't bring Brian Embermo in, I doubt we would be in the top half of the league. but we're not going to get relegated.

28:37That is just idiocy, stupidity, sensationalism. We couldn't even get relegated last year and we were trying to. We were rubbish and we were still how many points from safety. So we're not going to get relegated. That sort of stuff, that sort of talk is just stupid. We could finish fourth from bottom, but we won't get that. I just want to go back to this here. Glenn says you're so toxic. Glenn, I've barely said a word that isn't coming out of the football club. So I know you're angry, Glenn, and I hope that you can find some solace in your day-to-day. But you know what we're talking about, Glenn?

29:19It ain't made up. It's literally happening in front of your eyes. We did finish 15th. We did lose to Spurs with their best players out. We have been working on an Umbermo deal for seven weeks. We've only bought one player. We've sold nobody. And apparently we're not even close to signing Umbermo. And conversations about how bad things could get are very relevant. So I don't know how that's toxic, Glenn. And I don't know what we're supposed to do to not be classed as toxic in your world. What are we supposed to be doing? I mean, I would love to hear more from Glenn because I want to know why we're toxic for spelling out the situation the club is in.

29:59And if we're toxic, what the hell are the Glazers and Ineos? Because the thing is, unfortunately, there are people like Glenn in the world who genuinely think all of us who are moaning are being negative. We used to be a football club, mate. We used to be Manchester United. We are the Bayern Munich of England. We are the Real Madrid of England. We are the PSG of England. And we're behaving like a relegation candidate. We've lost our identity. That is not toxic. That is a demand for why has our football club been sabotaged over a decade to a point where it's completely and utterly unrecognizable and a laughingstock.

30:38That's not toxic, Glenn. Imagine something you love, like your dog or your car or your wife, probably your dog, you. And imagine that dog that you look after and you care for. And then suddenly it's, you know, you go on holiday for a year or two weeks, you come back, the dog's in the garden, it's wet through, it's not been fed, it's really sad. Is the person that's done that to you toxic or are you toxic for going on holiday? You know, wake up. If we were in the situation of Liverpool where we've just won the league and we're buying loads of players, nobody would be moaning. I think this fan base is the best in the world at being positive when there's a reason to be positive, hated, adored, never ignored, but we're also the best in the world for being realistic.

31:26There ain't no fan base in the world that's not going to fight for its club against rivals and the media, but we ain't got anything to fight for at the moment. We really haven't. Delivering the words of God. That's always a good start. This is going to be a cracker. So from delivering the words of God, Mark is so clueless. That's not the sort of thing God would say. So you failed there straight away. You need to get your Bible out. Mark is so clueless. 35 million for Ganacho. I hope you work for free. I mean, mate. Okay. Like, Mark is so clueless, yeah? Where's your 40 million pounds coming from, Ganacho, then?

32:05I mean, last time I checked, he's been available for six weeks and nobody's put an offer on the table. If you can get 40 million pounds, lovely. What are you talking about? You know what? I genuinely think there's people like the words of God or whatever his name is. who wake up in the morning and live in a fantasy. They probably wake up and think, you know what, this morning I'm going to walk outside and everyone's going to cheer me and then I'm going to go to work. I'll get a pay rise and then I'll pop in the toilets and whatever takes my fancy is going to do whatever to me.

32:41If£35 million isn't what you want for Gannaccio, tell me who's going to pay more i want i want 100 million pounds for ganacho i want 80 million pounds for rashford but it's the middle of july we need to sell them and i genuinely think our best chance at the moment is to sell ganacho for 35 million pounds with a sell-on percentage and add-ons that's that's what i think um but if someone thinks we'll get any more that's fine um vimto says people in the chat the reason protests never work i look i don't know maybe maybe maybe maybe we're missing some updates here i genuinely don't think we are but um last time i checked we'd signed one player sold nobody and david ornstein about an hour ago had just dropped it that uh united um are nowhere near signing brian and burma when we were hoping it was going to happen tomorrow with the new kit so it's great that there are people out there that are actually positive and excited and and think we're being negative but um i'd love to know what it is they're positive and excited about because um i don't really see much reason to be at the moment um honestly i think it's um it's a major concern uh let me get some of your comments anyway so here we go when my life is improving and i'm positive manchester united sports it's a united start um i'm so fed up with our club keel says mark all i can see is we sack amarin move to 442 rashford sancho partnership karik as manager not what i want but it's all i can see thank you keel Hope you're doing well.

34:30Why are people surprised? Nice fans told us when Ineos got involved that they'll get the finances in order but have no vision for the football parts as Slaze. Oh, that reminds me of something I need to tell you from the show last night. All my days, Twan Sebi is suing Man United for clinical negligence and he should win because I'm convinced our medical department is a mess, says Ace St. John. Mark isn't being toxic, says Ashton. Imagine if we sell Ganacho for 35 and get Michael Jackson for 40 or more. we are so finished says Arshan Ganacho isn't a better footballer than Jadon Sancho Ganacho isn't even better than Dan James Jason it's great that you want to express that opinion it's not a conversation I really want to get into because they're both leaving Man United and I couldn't give a shit Rios would be so good for United why they let him go to Roma says Chrissie morning Mark been a good while while I hope you are well rest in peace we'll be on to you with you saying that about Jackson been loving these shows recently Rip rio okay yeah rio yeah dan john uh jackson with hoyland i see the vision in the office is ryan we're going in circles in the os glazer plan says demi god we won't pay 63 for imberma but want to pay 60 for jackson we are depressing and a joke says uriam why would inios be so inept in football operation done that one right okay i wanted to read this last night we were talking about how somebody said that um somebody said that um last night on the show that we'd said that when we kept bruno fernandez we are um

36:16here it is i've got it now when we kept bruno fernandez um we basically said we didn't need to sell him so somebody sent this to me last night so this is what bruno fernandez said when he turned down al halal there was an opportunity the president called me and asked me if i wanted to go there they were waiting for me i spoke to coach amarin he asked me not to go manchester united didn't want to sell me. They don't need the money. If I'd wanted to leave, they would have made it happen. And that was from Bruno. I mean, look, there's no point talking about Bruno. Bruno spent three weeks thinking about it.

36:52If he didn't want to go, he wouldn't have thought about it. But he obviously asked Manchester United about it. And according to Bruno, they said, we don't want you to go. We don't need the money. So that's what people were talking about last night. The context was that lots of people myself included feel that we should have sold bruno because we needed the money and some people were saying on the show last night but they said at the time they didn't need the money well i think it's very very obvious that we did need the money and we do need the money but um that's the quote directly from there about that so you know apparently we didn't need the money um yeah i mean i i feel i feel like i feel like

37:41i feel like sixth is our limit probably isn't it yeah i think i feel i want i want to try i mean i want to try and say that we can do better than that we certainly need to do better than that but I would feel like sixth is our limit for next season and that's probably very very very optimistic do you think this uh Mbermo deal will still get done yeah I mean yeah I do I just don't know when it'll happen I mean look if you're not going to spend any money maybe maybe it's deliberate that you I mean look there are so many justifications for why we would be doing this If we know we're not going to do any more business, keep it going till August because then you can't get pressure for anything else because you're working on this.

38:28If you want to keep saving money and Bermos is going to earn 200k a week, every week he's not here, you save 200k and you're still paying the wages for Ganacho and Sancho and Rashford. So maybe, maybe, maybe there are reasons. I mean, look, at the end of the day, the incompetence is on a major scale. It's sabotage on a major scale and United are in trouble on a major scale. So the theories as to why we're doing this and why it's taking so long. Well, of course, they are, they are justifiable to be, um, discussed.

39:08just reading this from Swedish Ramble he says United's annual report is out soon showing that our debt has gone up that it will even be even higher next season and that we will have even less cash next summer than we had this summer shouldn't Ineos be asked questions about how project 150 makes sense in light of this and he's tagged in Andy Mitten well look Andy Mitten's very good at what he does but um i don't think there is enough questions being asked about um what's going on at the football club but we've said it so many times as a community on this channel that you know we get treated like mushrooms and fed on shit but the thing is we're growing and um mushrooms do grow and we're growing knowledge and it's harder and harder to spin the truth.

40:01We're broke. We're in debt. Not being in Europe causes us more problems. We're not in Europe. I can't see how we're going to get into Europe next season. And I think that the trajectory of this football club amazingly could get worse. I'm not saying that we'll finish 15th again, but what's the difference between finishing 15th and 18th? do you get relegated in 18th 19th 20th yes you do 17th 15th and 17th it's just a number 15th and 9th it's just a number 8th and 15th it's just a number i think those things are what i'm concerned about i don't really look at the it was embarrassing when we finished 8th um it wasn't it was it was embarrassing when we finished 8th so i think that not being part of the top six is embarrassing.

40:53And I think that might be what we're looking at for the next few years. Look, Grenfell had Mbermo and they did very well, but they didn't finish in the top four. I don't think Mbermo and Kunja can take us into the top four. I mean, that's the question. Do you think Mbermo, and we haven't got Mbermo yet, but I don't think Mbermo and Kunja will get us into the top four and we haven't even got in Bermow yet uh and Bermow is on don't put that in the title we know this is going to happen Blazers are trying to get this over the line um and Bermow transfer setback Raph Raph look I don't know why look I don't really care honestly I don't really care but I don't know why people are coming onto the show like I woke up this morning and thought let's do a show on Mbermo transfer setback.

41:49I actually said last night on the eight o 'clock show, which I much prefer to the 10 o 'clock show, if I'm being honest, because it's a better conversation. I said last night, I think Mbermo will happen tomorrow for the new kit. So if I was going to make a show this morning, I'd be saying, oh, big, big day countdown, you know, because I would have thought it would happen. If you want to get moody or toxic with people, why don't you get in David Ornstein's? In fact, don't get in David Ornstein's replies because he's a nice guy. But all your negativity and toxicity that you throw in at Uslar, David Ornstein's caused it because he's been briefed by Man United.

42:27It's nowhere near. Let me just read this back to you and then I'll tell you who it came from. And then you can stop blaming people in the chat and falling out, right? These are the exact words. Let me read this to you, okay? The gap between Manchester United and Brentford on the valuation of Mbermo remains considerable. There have been no significant developments over the past few weeks. The two sides are still negotiating, but a deal is not imminent so that's from David Ornstein no significant developments for weeks why are we so we've just done nothing for weeks Brentford have said they want 60 we want to pay 55 and we've just done nothing who negotiates like that who negotiates like that we really need this player yeah we haven't spoke to him for weeks because uh they want more money incredible anyway that's where your updates come in from um if we lose if we lose credibility just by admitting fault then we didn't have any in the first place great leadership take charge their intentions are the worst is on that mushroom united says it's cjr they all wants to riot harry mcguire up front next season says united star um je says as a content creator at what point do you become concerned that the club's shortcomings and incompetence affect viewership and make you and make what you do even more challenging.

43:52I mean, look, that's more of an eight o 'clock show comment, but trust me, I don't need to worry about anything like that is the honest answer. And Bermot is on. Don't put that in the title. We know this. It's going to happen. Blazers are trying to get this over the lines as Raph. Okay. Raph talking crap. Hi, Mark. Could it be that Ineos want to spend big in the jail? Oh, my God. There's something. What's happened to the world today? is there something on the bbc news headlines what's happened to the world today trina's come out with another stinker here could it be that inios want to spend big in january or for the next manager next summer in case amram can't make this squad successful yes trina that's probably the best explanation we've ever had they're saving the money for january or they're saving the money for the next manager they're saving the money they don't have bloody hell you know what you know when you're coming up with conspiracy theories i would say focus on the obvious

44:49we don't have any money we're crap at what we do we don't want to put money into the club from the owners i've checked out of this says bounty hunter uh trust you well the radcliffe laser marriage was doomed says rizik um before it began radcliffe is obsessed with chelsea and wants to buy their leftovers why didn't he buy chelsea in the first place well thank god for chelsea that he didn't I wouldn't wish him on anyone.

45:19I'm Matt Galbridge. Ineos spent billions on players you've backed.

45:29Ineos spent billions on players you've backed. Laugh out loud. That's like one of those, you know, the Daily Tire, the Sunday Times when it has like really hard puzzles to solve. I don't, I can't figure that one out. Ineos spent billions on players you've backed Ineos spent billions I can't even figure that one out This has got to be the worst Tuesday morning show in history For strange comments Nicholas Jackson was a right winger at Villarreal Before joining Chelsea and playing up front Is there a world where he was Oh god, lying Stop pushing it Based on current performance Ineos are worse than the Glazers by a long way This is Stephen i'd buy a guel aguiwa from porto he's a good center forward says chuff bridge daddy and taylor uh aiken welcome to the members club uh thank you very much for that as well okay well i think that is in the ost prepping for dividends to return in 2027 and look sam diamond's probably not dropped the most important thing i want to talk about this probably it's better for an eight o 'clock show I feel so sorry for Amrin been completely neglected no negotiation needed for Kunya imagine if there was we'd have had no one much love much yeah and that's a great point we've signed one player we've sold nobody and the player we signed was a release clause so there was no negotiation and it still took us six weeks but look without doubt I don't like saying this I never thought I would say this but after 18 months Ineos on the football side are worse than the Glazers and also this is the worst summer transfer window for a new manager at manchester united since david moyes um fact absolutely incredible really um and my summary on what they've given to david ornstein this morning is that they know the deal is not going to happen soon so they've given it to Ornstein to tell us that it's not going to happen soon.

47:32And I think that they won't do the deal because they're terrified of paying 60 million pounds because everybody will say, why didn't you just pay it in June? So now they're going to take God knows how long to try and get this price down and save some face. But I don't really give a shit about your face. I give a shit about In Burma in a Man United kit. So yeah, depressing start to Tuesday, really, which you can understand why some people are fed up. Thanks everyone for watching. I'm going to be on Terry's channel for Straight Facts in about 10 minutes. So you can join me over there for that. We're back at two.

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48:13I feel there was a rhyme there, but I don't know what it would be. Take care, everyone. Stay safe.