131: Mbeumo PRICE Increase! Rashford To JUVE!

0:05Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news this Thursday, the 17th of July, 2025. and 25. You could be forgotten for thinking it's August the 1st, 2032, how slow Manchester United are at transfers, but we actually are still in 2025. And we've got a few things to talk about. So Mbermo's price has apparently gone up. Rashford is now of interest to Juventus. Sancho is close to signing to Juventus. Ganaccio could be getting a Premier League move and Amorim may be ready to blood the youth rather than sign players now this will probably cause a bit of a balance because some people will get quite excited about that personally it terrifies me that with anana being injured we might put kids in goal and with the lack of signings we might throw kids into the team learner drivers ain't going to get us out of this lewis hamilton lewis hamilton drivers will we need experience we definitely definitely do and interestingly as well you might have seen it in the Athletic this morning.

1:11We'll talk about it in a few minutes' time. We got some information a couple of months ago around the midfield. If we want to buy a midfielder, somebody needs to go. And it was Casemiro or Maynou. But we also mentioned from the training ground that Collier might be surplus to requirements. Keep an eye on Collier. We said it in May. It's just come out this morning. Loan or sale Collier is an option, and that's coming out from the Athletic. So that information again was obviously very very correct but look let's start off with the news let's start off with the big news and yet again we have a story around brian and burmo and third day running actually they've gone they've done the hat trick they've done the treble it's the only treble man united are going to do they're basically reporting in the guardian that manchester united are not willing to offer more than£65 million and that Brentford want£70.

2:06Third day in a row. What well, Athletic on Tuesday. Lookhurst Manchester Evening News Wednesday. And now it's The Guardian on Thursday reporting that Brentford want£70 million and Manchester United are unwilling to pay£65 million. And again, I just think that United are just trying to get this story, trying to rescue a story. It's almost become, in my opinion, a PR exercise. How do we pay£60 million for Embermo and come off as doing something spectacular in our negotiation skills? And Morgan says, are we going to walk away? I walk on bias as Garfield. I think that's only if you listen to the story.

2:48Are they buttering us up to walk away? I genuinely do think, and I'd love to know what you think. I genuinely do think this is just PR. I really do. I think we've spent seven, seven and a half weeks on this deal now. And we all know, we'll talk about the price in a minute, but we all know what Brentford wants. And we've known it since the start of June. And I think Manchester United, who are flying out to the United States on Tuesday, in five days' time, we are flying out to the United States. I think Manchester United are nowhere near negotiating the deal they want to negotiate. And I think what they're looking to do is they're looking to salvage some sort of PR.

3:24Now, whether that could be walking away and people go, yeah, good one, United. Can I just say those people like Garfield and others who are saying walk away, what positive outcome is there of us walking away? I mean, I just want to get into that mindset of the people who are saying it's a good idea to walk away, considering that we have been negotiating considering that we've been negotiating this for seven weeks what why would you pat somebody on the back who walks away and go go go on united go on yeah my club why would you do that i'd go why were you there in the first place why have you wasted seven weeks have you manipulated this fan base to make us think we were going to sign a player to cover up two months of um activity like i don't think walking away is an option for man united now it would be our fault for not you know realizing this situation from the start but the second thing i would say as well is that i genuinely think we will do this deal but i think what we're trying to do is push the brentford price up to 70 so that when we get in for about 60 we can go well we we brought the price down that's what we were negotiating for genuinely do think this is a pr exercise genuinely do think this is about managing how we pay 60 million pounds for MBMO, but cover off eight weeks of negotiations.

4:49And the way to do that is to use your friends in the media, push the Brentford asking price to 70. And then when you get in for 60, you go, well, look, that's what we were negotiating for. The problem with that is we have known that the price is 60 million pounds since June the 1st. we've known this and we have got to follow the evidence at the start of june it was reported that brentford wanted a price similar to what we paid for kunya and man united offered 45 at the end of june they offered 55 we've never offered the 60 why won't we offer the 60 even if you believe that Brentford wants 70, why would you not offer 60?

5:36My point is, we've never offered 60 and we won't offer 60. And why won't we offer 60? And why is the talk of 70? And genuinely, if Brentford wanted 70, why didn't we walk away? So I just think that this is PR. And I think United are trying to spin spending 60 million pounds on Mbama because they knew we could have on that weeks and weeks and weeks ago and i also think that um we're doing this because we want to um save money because we're paying so much money on wages to ganacho and sancho etc um just talking about that we can come back to that obviously but um i want to delve into this midfielder story because it's really interesting uh lots to talk about around exits leaving manchester united of course as well but um this was reported uh let me just see if i can well i I can get it here.

6:26Hold on a minute. They're not going anywhere. Let me read this out to you. Here it is. Options remain open. This is from The Athletic. Options remain open as to whether Toby Collier will be staying, sold or leave on loan. There is still a possibility that Amas goes out on loan if it transpires his playing time is likely to be limited as a result of Lyon's arrival. Diogo Lyon will not be leaving on loan. So all that was in The Athletic this morning. We're going to talk about the youth in a few minutes time, but I do draw your attention to that. Very big attention to that. All options on the table for Collier, loan, sale or keep.

7:06Now, that is quite damning. It's quite sad. It's quite surprising. But, well, it's not actually. A year ago, I think it was Collier's big season. I forget how old he is. I think he's 22 now. Last year, when we had 10 hard going into this season, it was a big season for Collier. and effectively um it's it's it didn't go well did it he was injured a lot we did a video on in may um and we were talking about the midfield situation and a lot of people were saying we need to buy a midfielder and yeah yeah yeah and from the person that we speak to they basically said you're not getting a midfielder coming into manchester united because you've got bruno you've got mainu you've got agate you've got casemiro and you've got collier and you've got no European football and you only need two midfielders.

7:56So they're not going to buy a midfielder with that roster. They've got to move somebody on. And they said they want Casemiro gone because he's only got a year left on his contract and he's on big wages. And if Casemiro didn't go, then you'd probably look at Maynou, but they don't really want to do that. So I don't think they'll buy a midfielder. But what they did say to us was that keep an eye on Collier, he could go. and i've never heard it anywhere other than that source back in may but here it is so look there's obviously something around collier that uh amarin's not too enamored with really or impressed with um which look i'd throw it to the chat i don't know what your thoughts are on that um i always felt that collier had a lot of potential but there is a there is a danger zone when you're developing between the age of 18 and 22.

8:51I think once you hit 22 and you're still classed as a young player, it's quite rare that you're going to make it. And I think that might be the big issue that he has is that we don't really have much more time for him. Let's have a look how old he is. I typed in Collier and it's come up with Collier's homes. I'm not retiring. It's not that old. uh toby collier is 20 21 actually 22 in january so yeah he's sort of in that zone i suppose but look i don't know i don't know that he's i'd like to see him get alone realistically but um i think he looked like a good player at one point but obviously last season he was just ravaged by injury um let's go back to sales let's talk about damarcio let's talk about juventus and let's talk about Marcus Rashford now there are plenty of stories out there at the moment around Jadon Sancho and his potential to leave Manchester United this summer very interesting because I think Jadon Sancho is a player that we all want to see go I've lost interest I must be honest it's very rare for me to do this but I've checked out I've got no interest in Jadon Sancho or his transfer interestingly he was pictured driving into Carrington yesterday with Malassia I've got no interest in malassia either but i think people think malassia oh he's just unlucky with injury i don't know and i don't know about malassia i really don't i think he smiles a lot and he's you know probably a nice guy but he hangs around with rashford a lot he's turning up in the car with sancho i mean i don't i've seen a few people on social media sort of having a go at him for it and i just hold on a minute he's probably a nice lad he's coming to the club he's probably good friends with rashford and sancho but the bottom line is i'm not going to hold it against him that he's mates with Sancho and Rashford.

10:45I mean, whoever he wants to hang around with is up to him. I mean, you know, Garnaccio might hang around with complete wankers who aren't even footballers. So I'm not going to judge him for that. I just think he's shit. I think Malassia is crap. I don't know what I'm laughing about. It's not a very nice thing to say, but I think he's crap. I couldn't give a toss if he turns up with Amarib to Carrington, which is unlikely. But I actually just think the most important thing about football is we don't need to go out with them for a meal. we don't need to go on holiday with them and we don't need to invite them around for christmas what we need them to do is turn up in a manchester united show and play well and with regards to uh malasia i think he's crap ice trey says you've literally have been you're literally holding it against them no i don't think you understand conversational um analysis pal i couldn't give a toss i don't think i've ever mentioned malasia or who he hangs around with um but he's crap he's a crap player he just needs to be got rid of i thought he was infuriatingly rubbish when he came back from his injury and that's why psv don't want to keep him so we just need to move him on but damazio came out with a story last night that juventus are looking at marcus rashford um don't know how that would work really do not think marcus rashford would look at juventus and go i want to go there this is not the eventus of old this is the italian league um and i don't know what de marcio is doing these days there was a time when he used to get pretty good stories around man united and rashford to juventus i think there's more chance of rashford going to brighton it would be a better career move um he will not go he would not go to juventus so i did see the story obviously it's a new show uh obviously you can give us your thought i mean i don't think it's as wild as the story yesterday which was complete and utter nonsense that liverpool were looking at rashford um it's not that wild but it's not far off juventus rashford no he won't go there um he he wants barcelona um there was more rumors yesterday that he basically i mean it's a strange situation for marcus rashford because i i don't really know anything about thomas tuchel in relation to how he has favorites but you've got a very very competitive england squad the world cup's coming up in a year's time you've also got the um internationals coming up in september october and november and marcus rashford is not having a pre-season and i think that's very very dangerous but the noise coming out is that he is still very much looking to win the battle of getting his move to Barcelona and believes that he can get it on loan by just saying, I only want Barcelona, I only want Barcelona.

13:36There's talk that he's not happy that he's been singled out, but he's not been singled out, there's five of you, the famous five, the worst boy band in the world. And I think he ideally would like to be reaping the benefits of an intense pre-season with Man United whilst also pushing for the Barcelona move in late August, while maybe getting a few minutes for United. What he's actually getting is no preseason of any value, no minutes of any value, and everybody else is. And that's a dangerous game to play. It's a dangerous game for Canacho. It's a dangerous game for Anthony, and it's a dangerous game for Rashford.

14:13Velasio ain't going to the World Cup unless he's doing TV duties, and Sancho ain't going either. But those three players have all got respective opportunities of going to the World Cup. But I can't state enough how big a deal it is missing out on a preseason. And look, I don't think Rashford is going to do anything other than wait for Barcelona. And he's going to have to play catch up. But honestly, as I said before, I know it's controversial for a Thursday morning. But if I was Man United, I think sometimes a bad deal is better than no deal. and I would be on the phone to Barcelona saying, look, let's get this loan deal done.

15:01Let's just get this deal done because we're not going to get any money for him. If the player only wants Barcelona, we're not going to get any money for him. And that's a big problem for Manchester United. Let's just have a look at what some of you were saying this morning. We are looking for best in class, says Caleb. We will only sign players who want to play for United, have a player who fits both and won't spend extra five to ten million says caleb exactly um i uh bailey says i believe we have been going downhill since sir alex left so until we get lead good leaders we will not get top 10 thank you very much bailey uh bram says do you reckon we'll sign a few players at the end of the window similar to last season or are we genuinely doomed we spoke about this on the excellent eight o 'clock show last night join us tonight at eight and we were basically saying what point does it get where you just rather get nothing um i mean look that fits in nicely with this new story about amarin and the youth um again it was in the athletic they were talking about kone and whether he will go on loan or whether he'll be assessed in pre-season um i think it's always nice by the way we've got a pre-season game on saturday um but i think it's always nice with pre-season to see some of the younger players whether they go on loan or not i think it is but i was also reading about the goalkeeper and they were talking about whether it will be Vitek who goes in goal or maybe they'll use Biinder or Tom Heaton and I just got quite depressed about it really because I thought well we're thinking about whether giving a kid a go or Tom Heaton a go or Biinder a go and I'm like so basically we're just waiting for an honour to come back aren't we like we should be being proactive we should be buying a goalkeeper now because it's a very important position and you talk about whether we can finish in the top 10 or wherever but the ambition of this football club this season is is is remarkably bad like it's um the message that they're putting out to the fans is that this season doesn't matter um by the kit you know like the photos but this season doesn't matter because we're not changing much from last season and i think that whether you bring kone into the team or ob into the team or Leon into the team or Amas into the team or any other young player into the team it's not actually fair and it's not actually the solution that team finished 15th in the league lost the Europa League final hasn't had a summer transfer and I don't think at any point do I look at it and go yeah you know what we do need a few teenagers in the team just to you know to blood their way in I absolutely do not think that at all um so yeah i i'm very very concerned about that and how um you know how how things might pan out really because regardless of what people think um we have got some really good young players coming through now is not the time to be throwing them in i mean there's no there's no margin for error like um yeah there's no margin for error at all so i think it's uh it's really interesting um actually just uh what's going on uh one man moment one minute

18:42sorry about that sorry about that um edward the fifth says if we had a similar season as last and amram gets sacked would it be in the us out or are they protected as the glazes or maybe more if we had a similar season as last season and amram gets sacked would it be in the us out or are they protected oh no in the us ain't doing anywhere mate they can they can make as many mistakes as they like uh rory c says here's an idea we're always open to ideas rory uh amrim coaches players to make them better can we name more than one player that he was made he has made better um uh you know what i think this is so subjective i think this is so so subjective because when ten hog left people were like name me one player he's made better and the funny thing is there was times where people would have said he made quite a lot of players better but ultimately when you get sacked you get sacked because of bad results so it's always easy to say oh name a player that he's not that he's made better because when things are going badly of course you you're always going to be like well what's he what's he done to make people better and i think you're right rory i'm not dismissing it but we had our worst we had one of our worst ever seasons in our history last year it's going to be very hard to to to say that he's made a player better um some people are saying xerxi but i think it was very sporadic mate i don't i don't think we had i don't think i don't think you could say that amrim's made xerxi better there was some positive signs from xerxi post christmas but i don't think you could say he made him better um i'm hoping that we're gonna my my my my answer is rory um i think asking who amrim has made better based on that first six months is very, very unfair.

20:31I think that's the point of the preseason. There might have been glimpses, like people said, with Ahmad and Xerxi, but this is what the preseason's all about. But I would also say, Rory, is it fair? Does he have to? Is that his job? Like, if we start the season and we start the season badly and people say Amarin's not improved anybody, I would instantly say, but they're not his players. the only two players he's got to improve are Kunyar and Dorgu. And I think Dorgu will get better. Why should he make Rasmus better or Inanna better or Agate better or Xerxi better? That's not necessarily what Pep's done or Teta's done, Klopp's done.

21:15I think you would want him to improve some, but they're not necessarily his players. And I wouldn't have expected him to do it last season anyway. Bram's gifted a membership. You're a legend. Thank you very much. Thank you for that. patrick's in the house he says inios over promising and underlivering yet or again um rajaf says thoughts on the away kit design and more importantly thoughts on us revealing more kits than players also i don't think we'll sign jackson hopes hope not rajaf thoughts on the kit are reminds me of a real madrid or a spurs kit and i know it's purple but i just think it doesn't look like a mangane kit to me but that's not the first time they're trying to wear them out says katin in relation to brentford bolver and billy welcome to members club thank you very much really appreciate you putting your badges in the chat and supporting the channel uh love that um steen nolan says this summer is glazes in every way but this but the name i disagree ste i think the glazes were bad but better than this my mate ums can't go on holiday because of his misses can you call him a pratt says she then he needs to put a pair of trousers on actually and get on holiday that's what i say unless his missus is ill in which case i just look massively insensitive but i'm assuming she's saying you can't go on holiday with your mates because you're in a relationship with me guarantee she'll they won't be together in two years and he'll have missed the holiday chelsea signed but as i said if she's actually ill um with something serious i don't want to come across as insensitive chelsea signed more during their transferred ban in 2019 says like Schofield says also you've got to think who else would we get with the same stature and ability of Embermo for the same price as like Schofield well look it's um it's petulant sometimes I can be petulant but I look at the Embermo situation and I understand people saying walk away it's a very frustrating situation but it's where you aim the frustration I don't aim any frustration at Brentford.

23:13It's their property and they're entitled to ask for a price. I don't think that price is unreasonable. Manchester United have spent seven weeks on this. They could have just walked away. They haven't walked away. If they walk away now, I think the market's desperate. And also a lot of players that you consider have already moved, whether that be Gittins, Kudos, Alanga, whatever. Do you think Sir Jim is sabotaging us, says Harry? If he signs nicholas jackson 100 um dave the brave says never thought i'd see the day when brentford boss united around in the market we are the village bike um mark how's your mental health man we care about you and don't want this club to burn you out says j law well it's nice to be asked mate it's nice to be asked you know me i'll always tell you i've had days where i haven't felt that great but i've got to be honest on that level absolutely fine um i think a massive part of that has been the eight o 'clock shows which have just been not necessarily you know focused around transfer news but more around general conversation which is my favorite type of content but the morning show has always been a news show so um let's stick with that for now how about offering 65 million firsts as tony marshall look we'll we'll see what happens there's a lot of people in this chat there's certainly a lot of people online who have staged some sort of weird stance against me because i've always said from what i've heard and what i've seen that if we offer brentford 60 million we'll probably get the deal done and people keep going it's 70 it's 70 it's 70 and i'm like i don't give a shit if it's 70 have we offered 60 and we haven't we haven't offered 60 so until we offer 60 i do not believe that brentford wants 70 um and and you know what there are so there are so i could say we've got 16 000 people watching you could give me 16 000 explanations for why this embermo deal hasn't happened the only one that really and and they're all they'd probably all be valid but the only one that really grabs my attention is i remember doing a video with robbie on that's football last year premier league predictions video and we were just talking about in Burma and I said that player is amazing I'd no one no no concept that Man United were going to sign him at all in fact what I actually said is he needs to go to Newcastle that's where he needs to go he'd be perfect for Newcastle uh Jacob Murphy's been decent there but in Burma on their right wing he would tear it up I think Newcastle and Burma would have been brilliant and um I said look his record in the Premier League this season is sensational considering where he's doing it and how consistent he's been absolutely sensational so i'm not saying this because we're trying to get him i'm saying it because i was saying it last season anyway we paid 62 million pounds for kunya the minute you pay 62 million pounds for kunya you cannot devalue and berno below 60 you can't that the similarities not necessarily in the player but what they've achieved and their age and their experience and what they bring you can't say one's worth 62 and one's worth 40 you can't say one's worth 80 and one's worth 60 like they're basically worth the same and we haven't offered the same and if i was brentford i'd be saying no i'm not doing this deal until you offers what you offer is what you offered um should embermo hand in a transfer request as garkel i hope he doesn't i actually hope he doesn't because i think that i actually quite like players that show a bit of class i like players that show a little bit of um um you know loyalty i think people get people love it when play arsenal fans will love it with jokeres oh he's so desperate to come to us that he won't even trained for sporting but in a couple of years time jokeres is wanted by real madrid and he does the same they'll be like oh what a knobhead this that and the other and i think it works both ways so i actually quite respect players that respect the clubs that basically give them the opportunity pay their wages um and also who knows and burmo might not come in till august so i'm actually happy he's having a pre-season i'd much rather he's having a pre-season with brentford than on strike you know not getting a pre-season because we've seen that with agate we've seen it with anthony we've seen it with andrabat none of them had a pre-season and none of them had a very good first season either so um yeah oh just uh newcastle have now left hawks for eketike a deal considered off uh newcastle now focus on targets as since monday bid got rejected liverpool entered the race um liverpool are now advancing so it looks like isak's staying there i mean i don't know why i'm telling you this oh it's because of pletigol mentioned uh eketike didn't he um you've entered something quite about a potential deal to sign rashford we've spoken about that um in recent hours you've entered who's this from oh alfredo cadula he's he's quite i mean i i can i just apologize before we do this please smash a like on the video by the way let's get some positivity in fantastic shows at the moment the best and biggest man united community in the world and i think you've proved that over the last few weeks don't miss the eight o 'clock show um alfredo padula who was very good around the uh anana and rasmus stories a couple of years ago he is saying that in recent hours juventus have offered 15 million um juventus have a full agreement in place with sancho and his representatives negotiations are progressing well the offer might already be enough sancho has once again reiterated his desire to wait for juventus and has urged them to speed things up man united cooperated and wants to resolve the situation they've already backed away from the original 25 million evaluation it's not all offer so caution is still needed but Juventus are picking up pace heading straight towards Sancho um yeah I don't like talking about Sancho you know that I think I find it I thought we got rid of him last summer it's like selling a player twice um so yeah that that one sort of um confuses me but what i would say is i think the biggest issue um with sancho is um his uh

29:45um is going to be what his wages are and whether we have to pay him off or not so that's the one i would be certainly keeping an eye on with that nigel spiegel says for amram to have a fighting chance he needs at least six to seven players unfortunately he won't survive long enough to get the backing required says nigel yeah well look i'm actually looking forward to the game on saturday against leeds at least all our pre-season games have got a level of competition with all due respect i'm not a big fan of going over to the states and playing la galaxy reserves with our reserves so i'm hoping that from minute what i mean we don't know we don't know how amaranth's going to approach it but i'm hoping with amarin that we will get a um you know i'm hoping he's gonna what what's the point basically what what what's the point what's the point in um going on tour or playing leeds on saturday and going oh let's play all the kids and let's only play the first team for half an hour like you've got five four three two we've got five pre-season games

30:59and we need to hit the ground running we've got a very difficult start to the season i hope he takes it seriously i hope i'm hoping we're going to see what we saw with ten hog in his first pre-season where there was just some really good football out in asia um dre says i think the embermo transfer is off and united is trying to slowly get everyone used to that being a flop painted that brentford uh says gray would you be happy if we waited for embermo's contract to end than getting three next year. Well, that wouldn't happen, mate, because they've got the option of another year. He hasn't got one year left on his contract.

31:29He's got two. Niki says, why don't we say to the five, we are trying to shift. You're not getting a place in the 25 squad, so leave or don't play, especially in a World Cup year, says Niki. Well, I think that will happen anyway. Legitimately do think that will happen. What's the story with the Terry fella? He seems to love what Ineos are doing, says Dan. um like it takes out takes all opinions i like terry and i like the fact that he gives the other side i think he's for whatever reason i think he's quite you know hope you know you know all in on inios doing quite well but i think he's starting to realize that that's not necessarily you know there are some people like that i mean look you can't just say they're idiots just because of that like there are some people who who have those opinions um red devil discourse says can't wait for june radcliffe's excuses interview with gary neville and hitton says would you rather united don't bring in players because of lack of sales or bring in inflated signings by august end i wonder which is worse long term well hitton it's uh it's a great question at which we have got no insights on what the answer might be um i think that the fact that you're actually putting that question forward yet again reiterates what a crappy situation we have because you're right do we not make signings or do we make signings that are late and expensive and that's where that's where we are now i mean i don't i don't think like i mean maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm being unfair here but i don't think we're in a position where anybody in this community or the wider fan base thinks that this transfer window can still be good um it can't like like it can't be good like it can't be good because the pre-season has already started we're three weeks out from playing arsenal i think is it three weeks or four weeks this weekend god i hope it's four um it might be four it might be three um i'm trying to figure it out anyway it's three or four weeks till we play arsenal um we know how long it takes us to do transfers and we're not in concrete talks with anybody but in boomer so we can't rescue this transfer window now it's just the math it's a mess it's just the case of how much how much shit can we clear um so no i don't see it i don't i don't see it i don't i think it's scary what what could happen in the next few weeks whether we do a no business or whether we do inflated expensive business jay law says a manager can only make a player better if that player wants to be better this is jay law and of course just going back to that comment about what that rory said about what players is amaran made better remember um we have got a lot of players i don't need to name names we've got a lot of players that i would class that are good on their day but countless times over the last year two three four sometimes five they've shown that mentally they're weak um you tell me a player in that current squad and i'll point to five or six terrible performances in the last 12 months um and that's from everybody so um i think that's that's a really interesting point because consistency is what i'm talking about amrin might be able to improve players but can he get consistency and i think this for me is why this team needs such a major overhaul because we've definitely got good players you could take someone like bruno bruno's a very good player he's our best player but does he consistently play well or does he sometimes have absolute stinkers like your open league final like the game against chelsea before that and we don't have consistency and I don't think you can train consistency.

35:27That's my concern. What's more important to you, says Jake, getting rid of Sancho, Rashford, etc., or breaking even on PSR for them? Would you sell them for peanuts to get them gone, says Jake? I don't want to manage a football club like an accountant, pal. I think that getting rid of those players is very, very important. I can't believe we haven't brought a left-back a lot of pressure on young Dorgue, who will be criticised heavily as one of Ruben's signings as to well we've got ben jacobs on the show at two o 'clock actually i'm looking forward to it best back from holiday ben jacobs is that they're with her they haven't been on holiday together um so we should get some good updates and one story that probably beyond embermo shows any semblance of um positivity is ester banana and it was ben jacobs who broke that story weeks ago on this channel so whether you like esterman or not um there definitely appeals appears to be some i wouldn't be surprised if we're going to do that deal later in the window it feels like brighton wants to move him on it feels like we're the best option it just feels like we've probably said to brighton and estimate and we do want him we will buy him but we've got other things to do first um and and if that happens then you know that would be somebody who can play fullback uh matt tweed says these talks of nicholas jackson actually feel like something glenios might consider it's impressive work to somehow downgrade but here we are says matt if we can sell loan anthony maybe turn him into a wingback i think he has the aggression for the position and it'll open up more doors for the club to buy so jay law and grunt says i feel cheated by any of us in the sense that last summer we seem to do multiple deals at once and did them reasonably quick i thought we had changed as grunt yeah i don't know where you were last summer mate but um you definitely have crap wi-fi because we weren't quick and we didn't do quick deals um we got linked to a lot of good players but um xerxi didn't even go on the tour uh yarrow got injured on the tour delit and masrawi only signed a couple of days before the first game of the season and agate came in you know for the international break at the end of august so we didn't move particularly quickly it was more exciting but it wasn't quick um thank you very much for that right um let me just come back here um have we signed Mbumo when do you think we will sign Mbumo um we haven't signed Mbumo uh and you know it's a valid question we haven't signed Mbumo and I think the scariest thing I would say about Mbumo is this um since the David Ornstein update on Tuesday morning that the deal is not close and not imminent.

38:14I think it's fair to say that nobody has challenged that from David Ornstein, not even Romano. And also further to that,

38:27we've had no updates about it getting close. So look, I can throw something out, but i only throw stuff out where we've had good information like you know the morning after the apel league final can actually 100 gone or two months ago collier could go and lo and behold today the athletic are reporting it um back etc i can't tell you anything about it because i know i've never known anything about it no one's ever told us anything about it so we only have what you see um something about saturday evening jumps out to me and i don't know why but if i'm being honest that's not from david ornstein that's not from fabrizio romano that's from the weird and wonderful mind of me going i've just got a feeling that saturday around six o 'clock we might get here we go so don't start putting that on the aggregator accounts because we don't haven't been told that but it's the gut feeling but i absolutely thought we would have the deal done by the launch of the new kit and we haven't had it so yes um let's have a look if there's any other news coming in this morning thanks everyone who's tuning in of course always uh please do subscribe to the channel by the way we never push for that um during the summer because it's just so busy but bottom right hand corner to subscribe join the united stands uh also you can check out that football uh it's all popping off there this morning with um the eka tk deal yes you know what though although that's got nothing to do with um as ekatike it's just another reminder of how we're just not part of the conference i don't want to i don't want to go oh we're rubbish we're rubbish because we know we're rubbish but there is a i think sometimes when you guys rubbish it's rubbish people just go oh look at a moaning i actually think there's a more uh succinct say way of doing this we're not rubbish we've become irrelevant we have become irrelevant haven't we because i think if you told me on may 31st that we were going to have a summer transfer window where kunya was our only signing we'd not sold anybody but arsenal had bought zubamendi Ekati, Maduweki Jokeres is basically going to go to them Norgard Mascara and a couple of others Liverpool, Verts, Kyrkhez Frimpong, Ekatike is about to go there as well they're going to get Guehi you've got Man City getting out Nori, Cherki, Rinders, they're going for somebody else, Chelsea if you'd have said all that to me this Ekatike story again, it's like we need a forward there are forwards moving all around Europe and we're just not in there we're not in the conversation at all we need a goalkeeper there are goalkeepers available who want to come to Manchester United like Costa and Martinez we're not even in the conversation there are strikers to sign there are goalkeepers to sign there are midfielders to sign look at Richard Rios and others the players we need are there we just don't have the bloody money we've become irrelevant we We can't get into conversations because we don't have the money.

41:43And that's not an excuse. We don't have the money is not an excuse at all. Chelsea have got money into that football club through their owners, through loopholes. I would say to any Man United fan, you can't just sit there and go, well, we can't afford it. We can afford it. We can get money into that football club. Any financial expert will tell you there are ways that Man United could have spent£300 million this summer. The bottom line is we've got owners that don't want to do it. And that needs to be spread far and wide because I do see United fans going, what are we supposed to do when we've got no money?

42:23We can spend£300,£400 million this summer. We're not going to, but we could. There are ways to do it. but you would have to have owners that wanted to do it like Chelsea and others. So this whole irrelevancy is self-inflicted. It's self-inflicted by an ownership that doesn't want to spend money and hides behind the fact that we can't spend money. But if you could get them in a room, you could sit Sir Jim Radcliffe down and say, Sir Jim, put the champers away. Are you telling us now on the United stand that Man United can't spend money? well at the end of the day i am and i'd say well why is it that you could have done this this this and this to get money into the club why is it that chelsea have found ways to spend money why why why why can't you do that well at the end of the day you know it no one's ever told me that before and um it's about appetites you know and the appetite's not there they don't want to put money into this football club because the simple question is and this is the mic drop we were talking about the difference between an inios glazer relationship and a qatari ownership i'm telling you now the last 18 months with qatari ownership would be like night and day to what we have now the debt would be gone the stadium would be being built and we'd be buying some of the best players in Europe.

43:54We're still Manchester United. This is the conversation that people won't have. If we had been bought by billionaires like Qatar, we'd be spending money on players. We'd be clearing the debt.

44:10We're not. So work that out. What's the difference between a Qatari ownership and the Ineos Glazer ownership. We still have the debt, we're not spending money, and we're sinking. If we had Qatar, we wouldn't have the debt and we'd be spending money. It's still Manchester United though, so why do the Glazers and Ineos talk about FFP and PSR, but Qatar wouldn't? Because they'd find ways to get money in, and this ownership won't. they won't do it they won't do it apparently got an ornstein bomber i really hope it's something to do with manchester united

44:51newcastle are exploring a deal to sign whizzer after cooling i don't believe it you know what that is incredible i don't believe it i don't believe it I don't believe it I do believe it but that is why that was so well timed because we have owners that are slow and don't want to spend money we have seen for seven weeks we won't offer 60 million pounds for Mbermode we're now getting to a point where Newcastle will swoop in and sign Whizzer and Brentford will probably say you can't have Mbermode because we've been slow and if we couldn't see that coming a mile off i mean we've been warned we've been warned two weeks ago about wizard and spurs it's not like man united can go oh my god we didn't see that coming we all saw that coming um that's absolutely incredible so david ornstein basically saying that newcastle exploring a deal to sign brentford striker wizard after calling their interest in hugo ekatike um contact uh no contact yet but expected soon personal terms also need to be agreed availability and price may be dependent on mbumo case you know what you know what though you know what i'm gonna say maybe we want this maybe this is what we want maybe we've just wasted two months on Mbermo waiting for somebody to buy Whizzer so Brentford say he's not for sale and we go well we can't do anything about it maybe this is the out we're looking for maybe we want to go well we can't do anything he's not for sale anymore maybe we've just been playing this game for two months to pretend to the fan base that we're actually doing something maybe this is all part of the plan maybe this is part of the plan maybe they want Brentford to say we're not selling him anymore um look if if we want in burmo we should have offered 60 million pounds seven weeks ago you've probably got seven hours to put that bid in and if we don't do it and we miss out then there's only one one set of people to blame and they and they represent manchester united um simple as that um yeah definitely um all plans says john donnelly well yeah we'll have to wait and see won't we but um i've got to say i'm not surprised because when you look at it he's um he's definitely worth a look at i mean many of you said oh you want man wizard at man united uh dan golding says is it true we can get 400 million into the club why didn't they do it before the debt got so high and just clear it all before it got so bad because they don't want to put their money in dan if you had todd bowley in charge or qatar in charge they would put money in but that we don't want to put money in if we spend on quality players the deadwood will move faster agents push harder when their client is replaced but inios and glazes won't act says dos uh callum says i don't really know if we can if we can which is why i'm asking you why can't we sell our women's team like chelsea we can we can callum are we see but to sell the women's team you basically got to buy it and the way you buy it is through a subsidiary of what you already own so basically the glazes or any else would have to buy it with their own money and they won't do it are we secretly hoping leads batterers is dave i mean i don't think results in pre-season matter that much either way but i've rather tried to push hoyland to 10 goals than give chelsea 60 million for 12 goals jackson says lazy surely both clubs get to a point neither are budging so someone has to give or walk away i got a feeling he'll go to spurs says sean and berno here we go tonight mark my words as i'm kenny i hope so one difference hopefully from last year was remember the panic when players like scott and wambisaka were playing when we was trying to sell them says glenn c yes good point love the chat great job mark and i would love to see you interview any ex united players and nicholas uh it's not spoken enough how bad the 2023 window was look at the ins and out and prices were still suffering from that summer and still paying installments says t riddle hamudo welcome to members club uh sam says love the show mark oh please do subscribe if you're new by the way have you considered that in the us have been so poor this window due to restrictions placed on them by the glazers just a thought well maybe but that's the whole point of getting into bed with them isn't it if you're restricted you shouldn't have gone in if you go for us if you for a second try to put yourself in the shoes of wilcox and the rest of the clowns is there any good footballing reasons to act like they do says marlo fc look i do think omar varada christopher christian for val or christopher val jason wilcox they will get criticized of course they will because we're frustrated but if we're being fair and honest their level of incompetence is hard to judge because they are restricted by the people above them on who writes the checks of course um liam says at the start over the last sorry let let me read this over the last few years at the start of the season the first home game player is unveiled are we still waiting to reveal in Burma or Arsenal god if that's the plan Liam it's it's terrifying we uh it really is okay um thanks a lot for tuning in this morning uh we could talk and talk and talk and I'm sure we'll be talking again remember we have got um great point here from Amramira on Twitter he says Newcastle going after Whizzer Ineos need to understand that stalling the Mbermo deal isn't the power move they think it is if Newcastle act fast and take whizzer it's game over yeah this is a great point we've spoken about it in this community a lot the way Ineos are acting doesn't fit football doesn't fit Manchester United they're acting like they're Real Madrid oh we're not going to buy players we're not going to be you're not we're not going to be bullied we will win in the end but you won't the club's reputation is too low and other clubs have got money.

50:53So you can't behave like we're behaving, but they do. They do. Absolute legends this morning. Thanks very much. So we've got Ben Jacobs on the show at two o 'clock. Lots we can ask him. Make sure you tune in for that live. And I've got the eight o 'clock show. Obviously, if anything happens before that, we'll go live. Probably going to be going live on That's Football, to be honest, because there's a lot going on away from Manchester United. But you want to check out That's Football, Google it on YouTube. and obviously subscribe here as well. Absolute legends. Looking forward to the 8 o 'clock show and the 2 o 'clock show.

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