135: Gyokeres TRANSFER Offer! Amorim's KEEPER Decision!

0:02Well, hello everybody and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. Welcome to the show. Lots to get into. We have your latest and the latest is that Victor Jochores has been offered to Manchester United. This is big news. This is not Portuguese news. This is Fabrizio Romano news. But it doesn't end there because we've also got David Ornstein news. He is basically saying what is happening with the striker situation. We've also had in the last few minutes that we're not in for Sesco. That doesn't surprise me. We've also got the keeper decision for Amrim to talk about.

0:42Other strikers we're not in for. We're not in concrete talks with any strikers. We made a late bid for Eketike last week. So much to get into. United heading on the tour and we're heading into a big conversation this morning. probably one of the most jam-packed morning shows we've had in a very long time. So thank you everyone for tuning in. I just want to say, I know it's not Saturday, the 19th of July. It's Tuesday, the 20-something. I just set everything up because I was in Manchester yesterday and then I forgot to do the overlay. And I thought, you know what? I think sometimes it's good to be live rather than messing around with an overlay.

1:20So there we go. Shampoos, says Tio. Yes, well, look, it's good to be back. I missed you on the eight o 'clock show last night, but I will be with you on the eight o 'clock show tonight. I love the eight o 'clock shows, but Terry seems to have taken over the United stand when it comes to Mbumo. I'm on a bloody plane to New York and we get an Ornstein bomber that we're in for him. And then I'm driving down the M6 in a torrential rain and we get official and Terry gets both bloody bits. May as well take over the show. Don't want to bloody bother. I'll just lie in and watch repeats of bloody Batman.

1:52Anyway, Pratt man's here. Let's go. So look, first story I'm going to start off with. And I'm quite, I feel quite vindicated on this story, actually, because we went live on Sunday lunchtime about this Jocares story that Man United were close to doing a deal with sporting for Jocares. And a lot of people were like, oh, here we go. Clickbait nonsense. And it wasn't clickbait because it was every Portuguese outlet talking about it. And as I said at the time, I don't believe that we are in for him. You know, I don't. But every Portuguese outlet who are in competition with each other are saying the same thing.

2:28They've been briefed. They've been bloody briefed. Fabrizio Romano overnight, Monday into Tuesday, last night being Monday, today being Tuesday, has said that Manchester United have been encouraged, stroke offered, Victor Jochores by sporting representatives. And what we mean by that is they have encouraged Manchester United to make a bid to join in, to hijack the deal for Arsenal. This is coming in from Fabrizio Romano. So those Portuguese outlets, again, are having a bit of a glow up this summer. It reminds me of the Di Marzio summer where he had one good summer and then you don't know whether to believe him again.

3:06So the Portuguese outlets, in fairness, I will always be honest, I would never listen to a Portuguese outlet. and we've got years of experience, but they are generally getting quite well briefed by sporting this year, which is probably not a surprise considering sporting do play in Portugal. So we have been offered Victor Jokeres. There is a big, big difference, though. And also, can I just say, there are some people that are not reading things. They're just taking aggregator quotes and not listening. David Ornstein has not said Manchester United would only be interested in Jokeres if the price came down.

3:43That's not what he said. There's a full stop between what David Ornstein said. David Ornstein said Manchester United last week made a late bid for Eketike or showed late interest, but he only wanted Liverpool. Paul. He also mentioned Jocares, but they'd only move for Jocares because they won't move for Jocares unless he wants Man United. And they've not had any indication of that. And they're not going to move for players that don't want Man United. And then it goes full stop. Watkins, Sesco and Jackson are not of its interest at the price they're currently being quoted. And some people have ignored the full stop and said Man United are not interested at the price Jocheres is quoted at.

4:27And that's not what David Ornstein said. David Ornstein said, we're not in for Jocheres unless he shows interest in coming to Manchester United. So where are we at? The two goats of the game. What are your thoughts? What are my thoughts? My thoughts are the same as Sunday. I go for Jocheres if Jocheres shows any interest in Manchester United. And anybody who says, no, I don't want him because he only wants to go to Arsenal, listen to yourselves. We won't move unless we get something from him saying he wants to come to us. That's fine. If he's sat on his bed this morning in Mallorca, you know, getting a bit of ambrosele and he's going, you know what, sod this.

5:11I've had enough sunbathing. I'm off to bloody. I want to go to Old Trafford. And then United get told that and then we go and buy him. happy days but if he sits there going oh i'm not i'm not interested anyone arsenal we don't get involved um it's a funny one because normally you would get the club you would get manchester united would approach a player before approaching a club and bumo kunya sancho whatever you don't normally get the club approaching you about a player that doesn't want to come to you And that's the difficulty with Manchester United here is that sporting representatives approaching Manchester United or intermediaries about bidding for Jokeres really only benefit sporting because we're just playing the game.

6:00Now, we might want to play the game. I've played the game. We might want to play the game. Theo says hijack the deal. I'm going to go through some of your comments in a moment. but we there is another story here so if we hijack the deal and we offer now arsenal are offering 55 million plus add-ons sporting have a problem with that and i think basically they want 60 if man united come in and go we'll give you 60 plus add-ons which i think is a fair price and sporting say yes we've accepted that and then we get they go to arsenal and say if you want him we want 60 because that's what man united have offered and jokeres says well i'm not going to manchester united i want to go to arsenal and then sporting say well get back on your sun lounger because we're not doing a deal then and you can miss pre-season and you can miss you can miss the start of the season lying on your bloody sun lounger catching some tan you know piss off um why would united do that well you might do it because suddenly the agent starts speaking to Jacare's and going, you're going to be sat here for five weeks, mate.

7:09And then it's an international break. Do you want to do that? Arsenal might pivot to somebody else and then you're in trouble. Do you want to talk to Man United? Might prompt Arsenal to do something. On the other hand, from Man United's point of view, it shows willing to go and get a striker, but also it shows a relationship with sporting to try and help them out. And then when you want Yulmland or you want an accio or you want another sporting player sporting remember that and go you tried to help us out so there might be something like that going on as well i am very relaxed about this i think that what we have this morning is we can sit there and say to anybody who's saying it's a load of rubbish that it's not we have clearly been invited in to hijack this deal by sporting we have to acknowledge that at this point jacquez only wants arsenal and what what does it what what damage does it really do us we need a striker we're not arsenal we're not in the champions league we may as well hang around in this story and see what happens and at the the worst case scenario we're helping sporting out and that might help us in the future in the best case scenario we might end up with jokeres so i i don't see i don't see a problem with this at all i've seen some people online saying it's embarrassing trying to do this that and the other i would rather walk up to that hypothetical bar and ask mrs goldbridge out then go no there's no point she's talking to mr arsenal you know she's going to be mr mrs arsenal you know you may as well you may as well ask you may as well ask so we'll see what happens but it is strange it is strange um it is strange that we're being invited in william says why do you want him well william i i don't know i don't know i don't know what the reason i might want one of the best strikers in the world at manchester united i can't think, hmm, could it be because we're shit at scoring goals?

9:01Could it be that we need a top-class striker with experience? Those two things could be good reasons. But I would say what I was saying to the builders this morning. I said, you know what? I think that the difference between having a Jokeres or an Osman and having a Watkins or a Mawani is that I think with a Watkins or a Mawani, you're probably going to say sixth at best. I think if you get an Osman or a Jokeres, then you potentially give yourself a chance of pushing into the Champions League spots, whether that's fifth or whatever. And I'll have a bit of that. And look, how I felt after the game on Saturday was even with Mbumo coming in.

9:42I'm a little bit worried about that team. I'm a little bit worried about that team. You give me Jokeres and a goalkeeper and I go, but I think he's going to sign for Arsenal. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, look, I'm genuinely not here going, you know, beefing with Arsenal fans. He's a fantastic striker and I think he will do fantastic things for you and fair play. And I think he will sign for you. But all's fair in love and war. And if we can disrupt or get involved or benefit ourselves out of doing something with sporting, then we should do it. But the player's got to change his mind at the end of the day, not us.

10:18so yeah that's where we are with that let's have a just have a quick chat at what people are saying on this because um we have got a lot to get through and i want to talk about what david ornstein has said about the striker situation um so let me go here here we go so uh nothing wrong with goalkeeper having first choice it's normal being second choice doesn't mean he wouldn't give his all says wayne france arsenal already agrees the base fee of 55 million says tie surely amram has spoken with the players, says Carl. Patrick Lynch says any striker we get will probably be at the end of August and Jochores is worth a punt.

10:52However, knowing how long it takes us to do deals, don't do this to the detriment of doing the proper deals, says Patrick. Good point. And also David Ornstein has said that Man United are not in any concrete talks with any striker at the moment. So as, you know, I won a bit of praise this morning. I don't really, but I did say we won't have a striker for the tour. And I said that in the middle of June and we won't have a striker for the Arsenal game. I'm actually moving parameters here. I can move, move, move any mountain. Tell you what, the Shaman were good. I've always said it, the Shaman were good.

11:25But we're not going to have a striker. And we're not going to have a new striker for the Arsenal game. That's not going to happen. It will be towards the end of the window, especially when we're not in any concrete talks and we're heading on tour. We've got a Sesco update, which I'm going to talk to you about next. Morning, Mark. Although we are unlikely to get Jokeres, the intention to bid does indicate that we have some funds to keep moving on further signings, says James, and Xerxes as a centre midfielder, like Newcastle do with Joel Linson. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Interesting. Do you think about that from I'm Kenny?

11:55There we go. I think that on the financial situation, we definitely do have funds. um um the deal for um and bumo was one of um trans it was is done in transactions installments sorry and so is kunya and look there's a couple of really interesting stories i want to get into this morning actually um in on the striker situation we've had a right morning of of news actually and um i think that i'm only going to skirt over this because it's irrelevant unless you talk about the actual point we need to make so david ornstein mentioned that last week man united made a late inquiry late bid you know late talks whatever um with frankfurt and hugo ecotique he's a liverpool player what are we talking about but it fits in with what james said there.

12:55I ain't got a problem with that. Liverpool fans can go, ha, ha, ha, take the L, you know, this, that and the other. And I would go, what the hell are you laughing about taking the L? Look at where we finished in the league. Look at who we lost to in a final. Look at what you did. We're taking the bloody L. We're sitting on the L every morning with a tube of lube. We're taking that L so much it's coming out of our throat. It's ridiculous how many Ls we're taking. By all means, laugh, but we ain't going to sit there and go, oh, shut up. We're better than you, we're miles off. So knowing where we are, and I haven't got a problem with this, I don't mind Man United trying to hijack a Jokeres deal.

13:33I don't mind Man United trying to get involved late in an Eketike deal. I don't mind it. I don't know what our fans would moan about. Oh, we're being bantered by Liverpool and Arsenal. Oh, what, like we haven't been for the last 12 months. I would rather we were trying to get involved in an Eketike deal, get involved in the Jokeres deal than sitting there going, let's get Nicholas Jackson. You know, at least it shows an ambition. And like James says there about the financials, well, the financials are really interesting because if we did make a late play for Eketike, it suggests we have money for a striker.

14:11And if we did make a late play for Jokeres, it suggests we have money for a striker, which I'm pretty sure we do because of instalments that we're paying on other players. So we have got money and I think we can take from that that we do have money. So that is a positive, certainly. But the big thing I'm a bit disappointed about this morning is, and it's come out from Laurie Whitwell, is that Benjamin Sesko is not currently a serious target due to the cost of his fee and his salary, which is deemed incompatible with United's budget. now quite rightly I think some people would say is that not a contradiction if you inquired about Eketike now as I'm as far as I'm aware Eketike was 250 grand a week and look might be better people in the chat to talk to me about this as far as I'm aware Eketike is 250 grand a week and 70 million pounds which is pretty much what Sesco is and yet we inquired about Eketike last week according to warnstein but then whitwell saying we're not in fusesco because of price when they're pretty much the same and they're the same age and they have the same sort of trajectory around them so um i i think that that is quite interesting in the sense that they are pretty much the same but look that's breaking news this morning and if there's one thing we know about Laurie Whitwell is that he gets briefed by the club so that will be a brief from the club that Benjamin Sesko is not I repeat not currently a serious target due to the cost of his fee and salary which of course is a big shame because if you end up with Eketike at Liverpool like we have and Osman at Galatasaray like we have and De Lapp at Chelsea like we have and at Arsenal like we predict then he's the best of the lot um and uh Robbie says Sesco is a lot more than Eketike to buy well is he 70 million pounds for Eketike which is basically 80 million euros and 250k wages I'm not disputing that there might be agent fees higher wage demands more money he wanted from Leipzig I'm not I'm not disputing that at all and also I think that towards the back end of the window that might change um if Leipzig want to move him on but they might want to keep him and he might stay for another year because he's still only 22 so maybe Sesko's staying for another year I don't know but it's disappointing because I think he is the best of the rest and where do we go then because um well I'll move on to what David Ornstein said but just to move from a negative to a positive ben jacobs said last night that we're not in for um nicholas jackson get in come on get on the bed we're having a party get in not nicholas jackson it can slide into some only fans dms but this is great news absolutely fantastic news um it's the news i've been waiting for i can deal with no sesco as long as we're not in for nicholas jackson it's great people people are praying in the chat they're taking the walking out of work they're literally chucking their coffee on the boss's head which is not too hot because they've had it for 15 minutes and saying shove your job up the arse we're not having jackson there's celebrations going on all around the Manchester United fandom now oh my god people are pulling over in their car and just running into fields with their top off screaming and shouting there's an epidemic yeah champers absolute champers so I mean that's great news I mean that you know what if somebody said to me well it doesn't make sense but I can deal with the sesco news if it's if it's diluted by the look I don't want Nicholas Jackson anywhere near Manchester United.

18:16So this is great news. And this came in last night from Ben Jacobs. So I think that in relation to that, very, very, very positive, of course. So where do we go with the striker? Well, let me read to you what David Ornstein said, because I think him and Romano are the two, as you know. And I think that those are the two that are worth speaking about this morning because they've both put news out. one romano about jacquez and then david ornstein as well so what he is basically saying is that manchester united let me just get the quote on this i'm sure it was on the united stand

18:56uh here it is well he also says that with the official signing of mbumo united are now turning their focus to a goalkeeper a defensive midfielder and a striker um but this is the direct quote word for word last week from David Ornstein this is his words this morning last week Manchester United tried to join the race for Hugo Eketike but he was already going to Liverpool that shows we've got money for a striker because everybody knows that Eketike was going for 70 million they then asked Sporting about Jochores but he only wants to go to Arsenal and United won't bother with anyone unless they have a desire to come to the club so there's the updates that we know We have inquired about Sporting.

19:38Sporting probably want us to get involved, but we won't get involved until Iacarez says he wants to come to us. And it doesn't look like he's going to do that. Eke Tike obviously chose Liverpool, so we couldn't get involved in that. But what he did say is that at this moment in time, Sesco, Watkins and Jackson are not of interest because they are because of price. so we're not in any concrete talks about any striker at the moment and that is sort of where I'm pitching this this morning I think that we've we're in for Jokeres than we are for Nicholas Jackson we're in for Jokeres more than we are for Sesko we're in for Jokeres more than we are for Ollie Watkins we're in for Eketike more than we were in for any of those players and we're not getting Eketike and we're not getting Jokeres so I would go with what David Ornstein's saying at the moment we are basically not in any concrete talks with any striker at the moment and we do want a striker and at some point that will change and of course concrete doesn't go from sand and water and concrete dust to concrete honestly you know until you start mixing it um we've got to start mixing a deal here so i think that with regards to that we will sign a striker but at the moment obviously we don't know who Matt Stryker is going to be which means we could get back linked in with Nicholas Jackson but I don't know I don't know it's interesting because I was listening to what Fabrizio had to say about Rasmus I was having this chat in Manchester last night because somebody was saying you know we spoke to him Rasmus recently and I was like I'm not answering that on a live stream or in this office but what I do know from the Rasmus Hoyland situation is that he came back to pre-season on the assumption that he was part of the plans and he was staying and as things stand at the moment Fabrizio Romano in fact said last night unless somebody at Man United tells him he's not wanted he's a Man United player you could make a really good point about this because we never know what goes on behind closed doors but I do have an element of I have a bit of an issue with the striker situation at United because right at the start of the window, we want De Laak and we don't get him because he goes to Chelsea.

21:56And we're told that we've been planning this transfer window for a very long time. And yet here we are on the 22nd of July, not the 19th, and Man United are not in any concrete talks with the striker, but they want one and Erasmus Hoyland is still training with the team thinking he's part of the plans next season but the minute we buy a striker I think he has to go because you've got Obi you've got Xerxi you've got a new striker but not in Europe I don't think we can carry that many forwards so I do have an element of sympathy for Xerxi, Erasmus, Obi because they're in pre-season they're working for a new season we're heavily linked with the striker that no one knows who it is that might not happen till the end of August and if you are Rasmus or Xerxi or AB who might want to go on loan you're sort of like going I'm having this whole pre-season thinking I'm going to be here and then at the end of the month there's going to be this big rush and all the good options will be gone like Rasmus could have gone to Inter or or Napoli but they'll have clubs they'll have they'll have teams so I think we have mismanaged the striker situation a bit it feels to me a little bit like and we don't know the circumstances why but it feels to me a little bit and I don't know what you lot think it feels to me a little bit like we want a striker but we can't find one but we still want one but we still can't find one because I think ideally it has said to Rasmus in July find a club which I think he could have done and sorry in June and then and then at the start of July you bring your striker in and for whatever reason we've not been able to do that now it looks like we're still going to do it but it's going to lead to quite a big rush in August I think and obviously I'd be pretty confident bar injury that against Arsenal Rasmus will play some part whether it's from the bench or whether he starts so we're not quite ready for the start of the season again which is a shame on such a key position but I would focus in on two big stories in relation to the striker before we move on to the goalkeeper situation that being we are going to buy a striker we're not in any talks with any striker according to David Ornstein we're not in for Sesco and as per Fabrizio Romano we will only move on Jocharez if Jocharez says he wants to come to Man United and what I will say about Jocharez is if if Sporting wants us to bid.

24:29And we've basically wanted to bid on Eketike, but he wanted Liverpool. We've definitely got the money to go for Jokeres, 100%, because Eketike was more expensive. So we've definitely got the money. There's a bit of a breaking news. It's a great morning this morning. I'm loving it. There's so much news coming out. This is what we love. This is what we love. Make sure you smash a like on the video, and please do subscribe. The best community. Eight o 'clock show tonight, back in the studio. i'm only in the david beckham bunker as you call it because um the builders are downstairs next to my office and it would just be unbearable so uh we do it in here in the mornings at the moment although i am looking to be in the garden and going down the slide so make sure you subscribe and smash the like on the video uh as per usual i'm just going to catch up on some of your comments uh dave says he's got he wants nothing to do with jokeres don't really understand why dave because the only way we'd have anything to do with him would be if he said i've changed my mind i want want to come to man united in which case you're not wanting to do and having anything to do with him makes no sense we will only move for him if he wants to come to us which is fine you can't then go oh i don't want him now like if he changes his mind he changes his mind people are allowed to change their mind mate how the heck are we going to get a striker a six and a goalkeeper says aditio uh zane says yoko has his hours stop stealing why don't you just bloody pay the money instead of being stingy you know you're trying to win a bloody league title and the best the most important player you've not got yet um paul says i was in the hairy lemon on sunday spotted it on a wander and decided to pay homage cracking pub dollar bills also lemons equals fire lamens the goalkeeper says paul well i'm glad you've been to my local in dublin and uh hopefully we will talk about the goalkeeper situation next espin says what if sesco is actually arsenal's top priority but they're targeting yoko is due to price if we push up yoko's price they might pivot back to sesco says espin i mean i i would love that situation i would love sesco at arsenal and i would love united to buy okarez i don't know whether that's that would be i mean it would be harsh on somebody or it would be a very elaborate plan uh david confirmed we are in for some menu as well says calvin but we're not uh where did he say that we're not in for some menu i've not read that anywhere we're not we're not in for some menu uh hi mark followed you for years from Nigeria.

26:47Can't afford memberships, but started my YouTube channel and you are my mentor. It's called the United Kitchen TV. Please ask people to subscribe. Thank you so much. This is the United Kitchen TV. There you go. Masraoui is a midfielder. This is angling for more. At least we have bought some Premier League proven players for a change. We know we need a lot more, but it's the right direction. Onwards and up, says Cam. Champers! No Jackson. There is a God, says Yuriam. We should have just signed Jonathan David for free, says Sammy. Yeah, but no Premier League club went near him, to be fair. um kieran says at what point does amram need to plan on having sancho uh around if there continues to be no movement never kieran don't want anywhere near the team a weird story came out of portugal saying jokeres and his agent was annoyed at amram because of lindelof going saying he was going to get a new contract says glency not heard that at all suppose it's a swedish connection 80 million reported for jackson is a joke it should be double says ryan if you get 80 million pounds for nicholas jackson ryan then definitely um chelsea needs to be investigated for some sort of criminal offenses because this that's too look you can get for 52 from adewiki and people go that's a bit steep but you know whatever but if you're doing stuff like that and it's not legit and you do 80 million for jackson you're blowing the doors off something dodges is going on um we'll be the biggest banter club on the planet says daso if we get jackson wj barrett says romano said jokeres didn't say no to united when arsenal was after sesco this could happen we have to be ready to pounce on him to wa i don't think it's gonna happen wj but we're not what i would say about jokeres is we're not reacting to you know made-up stories we're clearly being offered an in but jokeres has to be on board and until that happens i won't genuinely get excited Martinez next to Bruno.

28:37I'm Kenny. I'm just reading these out now. I just don't fall into the rage bait. United, Emi Martinez, loan bid rejected, says Mike Barker. Going to talk about the goalkeeper in a minute. And Shazwat says, would you consider Sesco to be a learner driver? I like the approach of taking Premier League players for success, but the options worry me, says Shazwat. Well, look, if you took Olly Watkins, he's 29 compared to 22 Sesco, the longer term play for sesco is better but obviously watkins more more experienced morning mark wasn't yarrow all for real madrid and look what happened there love the show says dave hi mark what would you prioritize signing a progressive midfielder and a goalkeeper or assigning a striker uh depends on who the striker is says wackas yeah same for me mate if you're getting someone of the quality of a jokeres then i would take that if you're getting moani then maybe i would look at the other option as long as they can focus on other deals at the same time there's no harm but if we end up with no striker because they're focused on this get out says Slaze and it concerns me that he's just abandoned training and he's just sitting there shows a little bit of unprofessionalism what are your thoughts well I agree Vibor but he's doing it to go and play for one of the best teams in the world and it's not bothering Arsenal is it so beggars can't be choosers but we're not in that race at the moment really Arsenal already agreed the base beat okay I've done that one thank you very much right I'm going to talk to you about this Sancho story um Howie says I watched some last 90 shots videos on all strikers options Sasco looks risky still developing Watkins is clinical proven and could be a great mentor for Obi in coming years I think that's a great comment Howie um I was actually asked this yesterday about Sesco I'm disappointed that we're not in for Sesco because I think he's the best option on the table but what I will always say about Sesco is I don't think he's a good fit for no that's the wrong word I don't think he's an ideal fit for Amrim's system when you look at Sesco and Matt our editor was on about this yesterday in Manchester Sesco is a bit of a head down player if you watch him he's a head down player a bit like Harland you know he's a head down player and I think we probably need Watkins isn't necessarily a heads down player he's got assists in him as well so i don't there's a big difference between osman jokeres and then whoever else and we always said that the chances of us getting that elite striker are probably slim so there's always going to be a bit of a concern um are we interested in mateta i love the show says oscar not from what i've heard um nobody's in for mateta at the moment it's a very quiet one with that right let me talk about a couple of other stories because i don't want to miss anything this morning uh we've got nearly 20 000 watching again for the second 10 a.m show in a row absolutely incredible numbers at the moment um we do really well on the eight o 'clock shows and i'm sure a lot of you will be here for the 8 p.m show two o 'clock as well uh make sure you're tuning in for that but um huge huge community and you're all very very welcome and i feel like as well if june and the first two weeks of july were a little bit negative i do feel like maybe it's something with pre-season coming back that we can actually start to visualize things.

31:47And although it wasn't great on Saturday, I think it probably has. I've noticed a change at Manchester United in the last week. I think in June and July, early July, the club was just almost stubborn in its silence. And I think what I have noticed, there's certainly a lot more information coming out, but I think the club are publicizing as well that they know this has not been the window they want. And I like that. It's not been the window we want. It's impossible for us to score a good transfer window unless we do something incredible in the last few weeks. We can still salvage a six or seven.

32:23And outgoings are as important as incomings, of course. But I think that the club are actively trying to salvage this situation. And the briefs we're getting from Ornstein and Romano is they want a striker, a goalkeeper and a midfielder. we've got to start moving on the outgoings I mean I'm going to talk about the goalkeeper but just for this Di Marzio Jadon Sancho to Juventus is now on hold after investing heavily in the purchase of Consasal Juventus now wants to wait for at least one sale on the wingers González, and others and you know Sancho this is why I don't like talking about Sancho I just why I don't like talking about Sancho you know I don't want to do it you know the only mind of what I'm not interested in talking about Jadon Sancho he bores the shit out of me um you know I'm not interested I saw a post of his Instagram at the weekend because it was on Instagram and I was reading the replies and I was just like the player FC actually is alive and kicking they were like Jadon my star boy come back to old trafford and i'm like i'm not interested in talking about jayden sancho and yet here we are talking about jayden sancho like and it's nothing to do with the fact that i don't i wasn't massively excited when we bought him genuinely was but the reason i don't want to talk about sancho and some of you might disagree and some of you might agree it's because i felt we sold him last summer i think that's what it did the good by then i don't i don't understand why he's still here i don't see him as a manganite player like we i felt we sold him to chelsea last year and there was an obligation to buy and then we had this nightmare in march where suddenly we haven't sold him and he's back again so i can't you know the rashford deal i was interested in the ganacho deal i'm interested in but the sanjo deal it's just a bloody waste of time an absolute waste of time and i somebody just said when does he come back training for man united why would you have him back why would you have him back there is no place for him in that team he can't play bloody wing back and we've got loads of number 10s so he doesn't come back does he he just sits there earning 250 300 grand a week and when it gets to august the 31st and if no one wants him he probably just sits there and plays the new afc for six months doesn't he i mean i just don't like talking about it because i just feel like we got rid of him last year so the fact that it's now been delayed and um so that you know juventus have got to sell someone I just think that there's a look.

35:07I know some of these players are mates, but I do think it really just evidences that Marcus Rashford wants to get in the England team. He wants to have a big season. He wants to kickstart his career. He's going to be trained with Barcelona this week. In the case of Jadon Sancho, he rejected Chelsea at the end of May, start of June. It is now nearly the start of August. and he's done nothing nothing to find a move there's no urgency there it's not like oh i'll take a pay cut to come and play it's just slow um so yeah whatever we spoke about it enough the interesting thing is ganacho um i mentioned this on the show yesterday morning i said we're not getting 60 million and we did a little bit of a you know interaction about what you think ganacho's worth and a lot of people were saying 50 to 60 million but there was an article in the telegraph this morning saying that chelsea spurs and villa are interested but only at a price of around 40 well chelsea are now going to buy jabby simmons so that's ganacho gone um so that leaves your spurs and villa if he wants to stay in the prem we're not getting we're not getting anything more than 40 um and i think we should be looking to take 40 and i would put a salon fee i would put add-ons in but like i'm very i'm very disappointed in the ganache as well you know you walk around as much as it annoyed me when he was wearing that villa shirt i actually did think you only do that sort of stuff when you've got a club lined up and he hasn't he hasn't um little prime marks as i'd say at least 45 yeah i mean i get it i get it i know what i value at ganacho at but i would argue with you and say who's going to pay it you can you can value somebody at whatever you like i mean marcus rashford is not a 25 million pound player at 27 with his cv i would say rashford's at least a 40 million pound player with three years left on his contract but in today's market with what people know desperate to move big wages probably is 25 million um same with ganacho probably is a 50 to 60 million pound player but walking around in a villa shirt with united publicly saying they want to get rid and he's you know his career at united's over he's not in pre-season he's not even allowed to be part of pre-season money comes off money comes off money comes off and that's why I'd say you can't get more than 40 million.

37:46And I'm glad that Amarim hasn't had him and the others back on preseason training, but they're basically banned. And you've got people going around going, well, we've got to get 60 million. We banned them from training with the first team. Like that massively depreciation. I don't know. I don't know how people can argue it. That massively knocks off value when you're banning them from playing with the first team. So, yeah, 100%, we need to get it moving. But Ganaccio doesn't seem to have any urgency as well. I don't know whether maybe he does have urgency. Maybe there are offers there. And Man United are saying, no, we're not going to deal.

38:22But I don't know whether it is that simplistic. It just seems to be quite relaxed. And this is somebody that you would have thought would want to be playing in the World Cup next year. There needs to be some movement on that. anyway let's talk about the goalkeeper situation because i think this is very very interesting um we've been very fortunate this morning of having so many credible updates as i said we've spoken about ornstein and romano there was actually a good goalkeeping update um sort of yesterday evening and essentially what it comes down to is and while that's doing that um um man united have got a bit of a choice when it comes to a goalkeeper you've got experience and potential so both ben jacobs and fabrizio romano not on the same show have both basically said that it's a choice between in the experience corner emmy martinez and in the less experienced corner royal antwerp's laments um martinez brings you more capability in the now whereas laments gives you a cheaper option with potential for the future and that's sort of where man united are at the moment so i'm encouraged by this because where we were a few weeks ago you had the uneducated telling you that man you know where is it that man united actually wants a new goalkeeper and you know we've had bits over the last few months and one of the first big bits we got in the March international break was that Amarin wants to replace Inanna it's not personal he likes him but he doesn't trust him as a goalkeeper he wants his own guy there's a lack of trust in the defense with him and although he's a nice guy they want to replace him and Wilcox agrees with him and that was back in March and we've kept talking about this and since then other outlets have said the same thing but there has been people going well where's the evidence that they actually want to get rid of an honor um apart from the fact that he's shit um and we've all seen the evidence of that Man United and most clubs are not normally in the habit of doing a statement saying we want to get rid of this goalkeeper so we do want to get rid of the goalkeeper and I think it's just been a little bit of patience through June and July and now we're getting the truth that we always isn't it, from March that we want a goalkeeper and we don't want an Arna.

40:57So I suppose the question is, are we going to go for the more expensive experience of an Emi Martinez, or are we going to go for the longer-term, cheaper option of Le Mens? If you go with Le Mens, then an Arna will probably stay for a short period of time and eventually be forced out. If you go for Martinez, it's a little bit more aggressive. It's a little bit more expensive. and Anana sort of has got about a month to try and get a move.

41:28I will back the club, whatever they do. Doesn't mean I'm not going to have an opinion and I can see there's plenty of opinions in the chat. I will back the club on this, on what they decide to do because ultimately they've got to listen to Amrim. I think we should have cashed in on Bruno because I don't think he's a number eight, but Amrim didn't want to. So I'll back that decision and I hope he's going to get proved right. If Amrim says, let's get Emi Martinez because I want an experienced goalkeeper, then let's do it. But if Amrim says, let's bring Lemenz in, who's cheaper, who could be a brilliant goalkeeper for the next five years.

42:02But in the first year, he's going to have to battle it out with an honour. Then let's do it. I just think that the encouragement that I would take is that we actually are looking at that scenario and it's coming in from Ben Jacobs and Fabrizio Romano independently. So I think that's a really good thing.

42:31um esther banan esther banan signed for milan hasn't he that was what i was going to say yeah esther banan has signed for milan i mean that was it was only ben jacobs who was talking about that and he did say it would be towards the end of the window if we did anything about it so i mean i'm not going to deny that we weren't in for esther banan but i suppose the problem you would say is that you can't sometimes wait till the end of the window to do a deal if somebody comes in and is aggressive and says we want to do that deal and then I'm sure Man United would have been asked and Man United probably said it was a deal we would have been looking at at the end of the window and we might not have done it anyway it would have just been if we had some money left and we've done everything else and we've got other priorities um so yeah it is what it is with Esteban and I think um I think it's a deal that potentially we could have looked at but obviously it's um it's not going to happen now um god there's so much to go through i want to get back into your comments here uh make sure you subscribe to the channel by the way uh and smash a like let me get us back on here and what we got okay here we go i hate the way i say here we go it even annoys me uh welcome to the members club matt mcd appreciate that uh coney says Obi Yoro, sorry, not Kone.

43:50Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about, mate. Get off. Khalifa says, Kone, Obi, Obi, Yoro, Leon, Aiden, Maynou. Just need a striker and a goalkeeper.

44:03What does that even mean? You've just listed off a load of kids.

44:12So, I'm a bit, sorry, I don't normally get pulled back into a comment, but what is it you're actually talking about um coney obby yarrow leon aiden mainu you've just listed off a bunch of talented kids what what how does that help we how do we just need to strike and a goalkeeper so we're just going to pick all of them or come on mate grow up they're very talented kids but that's not this that can't be the solution come on um united star says a ruthless competent club would sell both anana and biinder and buy both lemons and martinez but we are not ruthless or competent in fairness united star i think that's very difficult to sell players that people don't want to buy um i would i agree with you it'd be nice to do it edward the fifth has gifted five memberships absolute legend of the chats make sure you give him a w uh howie's a new member of the members club as well uh edward the fifth also says welcome to members club howie edward the fifth also says would you take sesco and a backup goalkeeper or watkins and a starting goalkeeper you think a winger is even up for consideration for the right side no i don't think we're not buying wingers mate um we're not buying wingers for the right hand side or the left hand side because we're still playing the back five aren't we so i don't think we're going to be buying wingers at the moment i don't think that's on the list i think we will have to at some point and i think kenda was someone we were looking at but um would i take sesco in a backup or watkins in a starting i think i'd go with watkins in a starting to be honest with you edward And as somebody said before, you can't dismiss the fact that Watkins is probably going to give you two or three years in the Premier League and then Obi will be 20.

45:48And you're ready. You know, Erling Haaland was scoring goals in the Premier League at 20. So I think that maybe it wasn't 20, actually, but you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think I've never been closed off to the idea of Watkins, even though some are. It's the price. That's the problem. Sancho's easy buy amount of contract, not on him, says Clasp99. Take 30 to 40 for Canaccio with high sell-on fee, plus maybe a buyback clause, says Adrian C. Matt McD says, what's the news on goalkeeper situation? Reports of Martinez loan rejected. Strange a loan instead of buying him, potentially due to Le Mende's likely coming, says Matt.

46:26We've just spoken about the goalkeeper situation. I mean, look, I wouldn't be surprised if we've asked for a loan for Martinez, but it would always be a no. Of course, it would always be a no. With more quality behind Rasmus, would you give him one more chance as K?

46:41I'm a massive fan of Rasmus, but I think we've destroyed his confidence. I don't think it's an easy job to be thrown up front for Man United every week for two years at 20. And I think we failed him. And I think the player that he was when he had that hot streak in his first season, I think there was a player there. But I think we've probably destroyed his confidence to a point where it's a big risk to go with him as the striker this year. And that's from somebody who's very positive about him. I don't think we can. I don't think we can. I'd love to say we could, but I don't think we can put him as the striker this year.

47:16Because if it doesn't go well, I think it's going to go toxic very, very quickly. So I can understand why Amrin wants a striker. Because he's taken a risk on Bruno in the midfield. How many more risks can he take knowing that he's on thin ice with some fans and the media already? We should go for Kane in the January release clause of 65. No, thank you. I don't. My God. Imagine Harry Kane in our system. Oh, my God. It'd be deeper than Bruno. I mean, this is a striker that thinks he's a CDM. We've got two number 10s. He'd be playing deeper than them. I mean, he's a brilliant striker if you can tell him to play on the last man, but he hasn't got the pace for it either.

47:53Jay Bless, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much. How come Liverpool never went for Jokeres or Sesko, says Rashid? Probably didn't feel that they pursued their system, to be honest. Matt McD, would you still back Amirim if he wants Nicholas Jackson, says Kenny? I knew someone was going to answer that question at some point, and yet I haven't rehearsed it or even thought of an answer. If Amirim says he wants Nicholas Jackson and he thinks he can put Bruno at number eight all season, then he's heading towards a point where I start to go, and I'm not afraid to do it. I don't know Ruben Amrin.

48:33I'm not going to blindly be stubborn about something. If he went for... If Nicholas Jack... If he did an interview saying, this is the striker I want, and I don't... And I think Bruno's number eight, I've got to be honest. I'd be having second thoughts. I'm not saying I'd be Amrin out or anything like that, but I'd be starting to question.

48:53Definitely. Oh, Khalifa was a troll. Sorry, I didn't realise. That's on me.

49:04Yeah. He got... He got owned and came back with some baby stuff. So, let me know.

49:20Let me come back to the chat and just make sure there is no new news. Been a good show this morning. I really enjoyed it. Don't forget to tune in on the two o 'clock show.

49:34But I'm on with Terry at 11 o 'clock as well. Manchester United are set to compete with Manchester City for the signature of sporting midfielder Morten Yulmland. That's from Ebola. I mean, we're not. I'd love it if we were, but we're not. But as I said before, if you help Sporting get the Arsenal to Jokeres deal done, they might help us with Jumlin. But I think that the positives for me is that if we try to get involved in the Eketike deal late on, we've definitely got£60,£70 million on a striker if we want to spend it, which means we could bid for Jokeres if we wanted to. We could bid for Watkins if we wanted to.

50:16And we probably could go for Sesco if we wanted to. so we need to be very very careful about how we um obviously spend that money the goalkeeping development is a positive because it means we want a goalkeeper whereas a few weeks ago some people were saying we're not going to get one so that's a positive as well ornstein's linking us to a midfielder which can only be a good thing if it's a decent a decent midfielder but i suppose the and also we're not in for nicholas jackson according to ben jacobs which is even better is. If Man City get Jumland, I'll be annoyed because, not really because Man City are buying players, but I do think we failed Amorim in the sense that Jokeres was the striker he made at Sporting, is at Arsenal.

51:00Kenda was the next brilliant youngster he made at Sporting, goes to Chelsea. And then the midfielder that ran his midfield goes to Man City. It's just a little bit weird that to me. The team that Amorim built starts going to all our rivals. I wouldn't I would have thought as part of the deal of taking Amorim from Sporting, we would have nailed on at least one or two players from Sporting to come and help us. But look, we are where we are. We're a long way behind and it's a long way back. And I think that another positive maybe would be that we have a manager that is going to have to do it again.

51:40Do you think Villa would go for a loan to buy on one or both of Watkins and Martinez than spend heavy on a midfielder to pair with Bruno? No. I don't think Villa are going to loan their best striker and goalkeeper to a rival. Absolutely not. I think there would be riots at Villa Park. It'd be like us loaning... I mean, I wouldn't... I suppose, in a way, it would be like us loaning Ahmad to Villa. Well, you know, you just wouldn't do it. We could have had Dumfries and Estabanan for£35 million. We ignore these deals because of priority, but then our priority becomes overpriced, says SNS. Emerald, welcome to Members Club.

52:17Hi there, Mark. A tweet came out from Ekrem Kunar, not sure how credible he is, saying we're interested in Bournemouth, Evan Nilsson. He tweets a lot of stuff that's not true. That's what I would say. Need a mean striker. Rasmus can be a backup, says Andrees. There we go. Okay, well, thanks for tuning in this morning. Thoroughly enjoyed the show. We're back at two o 'clock if nothing happens before. In fact, we're in the busy time. Anything could happen at any time, I suppose. Eight o 'clock show tonight. Absolute legends in the chat. I'm going to be doing hot takes with Terry at 11 o 'clock on his channel.

52:51Join me there. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. And I will speak to you later in a few minutes if you're on Terry's channel. Thanks for watching. Oh, Kevin, I missed your super chat. He said, I'm not trying to be critical, but after watching the Leeds game, I'm curious to see how we perform with the proper sentiment field. If things don't change, there could be a problem. Very true. Callum says maybe they haven't gone for any of his past players, really, because of past experience with Ten Hag. That would be pure stupidity, Callum. What's the deal? You think that's like going out with somebody and, you know, there's loads of things you don't like about them.

53:26And when you get a new girlfriend, you don't do those things because the previous one didn't do them well. That's silly. It's not saying we're not going to Mallorca because I went there before and it was horrible with her. Well, it's not me. Right. Thanks for watching. Speak to you on in a bit.