136: Guerra TALKS Begin! Sesko PRICE Set! Man Utd News

0:02Hi everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news this Wednesday, July the 23rd. Man United are on tour in the US and we're ready to go here in TUS headquarters talking about the latest transfer news. And we've got some interesting news. I mean, I'm not going to get too excited about this, but I think some people in the chat are. Javi Guerra of Valencia has apparently turned down a new contract at Valencia and is available to Manchester United for£25 million. We'll talk about him and why it would be very exciting, but what would the flip side of that be for somebody like Mainu that we're trying to get on a new contract when Bruno's going to play every week?

0:43Also, very interesting story we found out from Italy involving Mawani and Rasmus potentially going to Juventus, a bit of a transfer merry-go-round there also Benjamin Sesko we have the details revealed on why it is that Manchester United would be opposed to doing this deal uh financially it would be quite crickling um and it was probably the reason Arsenal didn't do it as well we'll also talk about that we've got the latest on Ganacho we've got a little bit on Yulman and a few other bits around the goalkeeper as well um in fact an interesting piece on the goalkeeper I want to talk about uh which sort of feeds into David De Gea as well but let's start off talking about Yavi Guerra to Manchester United potentially and let's start talking about who he is so he's a Valencia midfielder I believe he's 22 and he's contracted till 2027 and the reports all coming in from Spain this morning is that he is rejecting the contract that many people felt he was going to sign in fact it was about a month ago that Manchester United were linked to Guerra with some Spanish reports I think saying that we were very close we had a green light and we were going to sign in for 22 million pounds and very quickly that story sort of got um you know this this dismissed as not true uh and that it was close to signing a contract with a new contract with Valencia which obviously expires in 27 and I believe he has got a release clause of about 80 million pounds on that anyway but Valencia have always been quite open to the fact that if they sell players they're not necessarily asking for the release clause because they've got their own financial issues.

2:19It begs the question why a player of such European quality, i.e. everybody knows who he is, would be available for as little as £20 million and nobody like Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, etc. are looking at him. So that would be one reservation. However, this morning, a raft of Spanish reports are out again saying that he is going to reject the new contract and therefore look to move this summer and Manchester United are ready to swoop for about£25 million. Look, I mean, we need a midfielder. Many of you think that this is the type of midfielder we need. I haven't seen loads of him, but from what I have heard, read and looked at, he is a very energetic midfielder.

3:04And let's not forget the word that Fabrizio Romano used when talking about a midfielder yesterday. He said the word he's getting from Manchester United about a midfielder is intensity. And Guerra would certainly bring that. Some people call him the next Rodri. I think that's a little bit unfair and a bit dismissive to his actual repertoire of talents. Yes, he can play as a holding midfielder. Yes, he can pass the ball. Yes, he can tackle. Yes, he reads the game well. But many believe he actually can play as an eight. Many believe he could even play further forward. So versatility, intensity and talent is certainly three words that you would assess with Guerra, who is also you know he's not small and you know physically i think he's quite tall as well so i think it would be a very interesting um julius says he's got no history of injuries which is positive as well look he's definitely a hipster pick you know a bit like uh um chirky was a few months ago in this chat gara will be very very positive and very well liked i guess we just have to take a deep breath of um cynicism uh cynicism and um realism and just say let's just see where this story goes um at this moment in time we know that many of us would like to sign a midfielder and at this moment in time it appears that that is a shared view from manchester united um and a midfielder of this profile would actually fit the um the roster as some people don't like it's saying with our midfield ring you think about Agate his mid-20s Casamiro's early well well into his 30s uh from Bruno's into his 30s Maynou okay he's quite young and Collier's quite young but if one of those are going and as I've said for a while now Collier is surplus requirements if the right offer comes in then Guerra into that midfield roster um sort of fits quite well at 22 It looks like I would be excited by this signing.

5:00I've always been quite dismissive of hipster fan theories around players because I can throw players at you that I think we should sign. I think Richard Rios would have been a good signing, but he's now signed for Benfica. We were never really in for it. so you know it's difficult at a time where we need realism and leadership to start theorizing about the players that we should go for however if a player that many of you talk about suddenly becomes a target for Manchester United that can only be a positive so let's see what happens with it um um it's certainly early days and it's only Spanish reports and it could be agent-led as Matt our editor said um it's a very similar story to a month ago and it could be agent-led.

5:43And as we know on the United stand, if you're new, make sure you subscribe. But we have five strands to a transfer. One, when a transfer story is out, it's either true, totally nonsense, agent-led to get a new contract where they are, agent-led to get a move, or club-led to get a sale. What I mean by that is Man United can be used in many different ways, and we could well be being used again. I just must just say, Willers, if we're talking fan theories i will play the game with you this morning so i will i'll play the game i've played the game i will play the game um believer yeah i'm a believer in believer i saw his face and i'm a believer no i i'm a big fan of believer um if you watch that's football um i watched him play was it the season before last was he there the season before last late or was he the start of the season yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely I mean he's going to go to Man City Liverpool Chelsea or Arsenal in the next 18 months and everyone's going to go why didn't we go for him this summer definitely believe in Belieber and I think that it's just difficult to get those types of players out of Brighton isn't it because they've got a very long history around those types of players So, yeah, I would like Belieber.

7:05Another play, just before we start talking about strikers again and goalkeepers again, I just wanted to – a lot of people have been talking about Yomlin, and I feel there's a responsibility here to, especially on the 10 o 'clock show, to bring news in, which is why I want to talk about the release clause for Sesko. I love this community. The 8 o 'clock shows have been absolutely fantastic. Another cracker last night. Check it out. But I think in the morning show, you sometimes, you know, you follow the news and you, you know, we're all guilty of it sometimes. And we've been very good at this over the years, actually kill a story dead or expose the story.

7:41And I think with Hulm Jolmland, Morten Jolmland at Sporting, another sporting player that potentially should be at Manchester United because he's played the system and he's a midfielder and he's energetic and everything like that. I mean, Jolmland's a good player. A little bit older, I think he's 26, Danish, international. but has been linked to Manchester United a lot recently. I have not really discussed this, but because we're talking about midfielders, I thought I'd just give the background around where these stories are coming from and what they're all about. So he has a£69 million release clause.

8:15And I think some of the things we're going to talk about for the next few minutes, you're going to realise the difficulty that Manchester United have got here. You can say you want a goalkeeper, but you're going to have to pay£40,£50 million for a Costa or a Martinez. Nearly said Starbucks then. um you know sesco we'll talk about the price of that in a minute but if it's not sesco even chelsea wants 70 for jackson biller wants 60 for watkins so there's these are expensive and with someone like yulmlan he has a he has a release clause of 69 million pounds now we've seen what they've done with jockeres and they're going to keep doing that so i think with yulmlan the question is why have we been linked to him and the honest answer is a bowler which is a Portuguese outlet used us and City and then an Italian outlet has mentioned Juventus but they they're gonna have to steer away so there's nothing credible around Jumland at the moment and look I would jump on that if there was again you know if you like Guerra and I think he does look good I think Jumland because of the sporting connection but also because of the type of midfielder he is would be would be incredible for Manchester United as well but there's just nothing around that that that you could describe as being concrete at this moment in time so that's where we are with yormland if you hear anything that there is stories but they're not that big which reminds me of a story about ganaccio we need to talk to talk about as well um let's talk strikers though because i do want to talk about the sesco story but there's an interesting story coming out of italy and look italian sources can be like italian sources can be fantastic you know dolneo um but a nice ragu but um carbonara that's a sauce isn't it i mean i just i just love italian food i love it lasagna oh yes i remember i used to go to this italian restaurant when i was a kid it was called antonio's and it was on trent bridge in nottingham we always used to go if it was somebody's birthday i think it's still there but it's different ownerships i mean i don't know what it is and to this day i've never known what it is you know it's something you have as a kid and you forget what it was and you go i'll never find out what that was and it was um it was a steak but on top of the steak it had like this i think it was called steak pizziari or something like that but you'd have a steak and then on top of the steak add this like tomatoey sauce like it wasn't a bolognese it was because bolognese it was lovely it was absolutely lovely anyway just hoping someone in the chat knows what it is regardless of that i don't know why i start talking about so oh italian sources so i want to talk about this moani story but before we do that i have done a little bit of homework on sesco that maybe some of you already know but one thing about sesco is we keep hearing that he's very expensive and that's probably why man united won't pursue it now i think what i'm about to talk about here is going to really sort of explain the difficulties around a sesco deal Fivik says, rest in power, Aussie.

11:17Aussie forever. Says a lot of people talking about that last night. Fivik, the passing of Aussie Osborne. Sean Turner, a legend of the chat, has thrown a super chat in. He says, I've seen him play a few times and I ain't really sold on him for what amount Amram is after then. Gomez at Wolves would be perfect, Sean. 30 to 35 minutes. I think Gomez at Wolves is interesting. I don't know who you're not sold on. Is it Guerra or Yomlin? Probably Guerra. Might be talking. Do you think any signings will happen during the tour or should we just focus on the games and maybe some outgoings as Edward V? We shouldn't focus on the games.

11:54We should be focusing on signings. I mean, I said this last night. We need concrete now because we won't actually get deals done in two weeks. these deals are going to take three four five weeks so the interesting thing for me is it's the 23rd of july which means we've got one week left of july um and then there's four full weeks in august so we've got about if i'm right five and a half weeks left of the market we average about six weeks to do a deal so we need concrete now because we're putting ourselves up against time here um the people we're buying from are going to need time to replace and the people we're buying for we need time as well so i think we need to be we're not going to sign a player while we're on tour no i would say absolutely not but we can be in talks with for players and concrete you know we can have a an ornstein or a fabrizio drop saying man united are progressing with this deal now you know that that sort of thing we need watkins or mateta seems to be the only realistic number nine options i'd be happy with those at this stage matthew i'm not happy with what we've done with the striker but um i'm a doer and i believe we've just got to do business now and we can assess the window at the end uh i think june is the you know impatience to get going july is what are we doing and then august is get on with it and i think i'm in that get on with it now you know we can assess the window on sept in the september international break youngland will save man united says rajaf morning mark it's my birthday today champers says solid blake uh good morning and happy birthday to you solid blake the real the real reason united didn't don't want sesco is nico jackson says ryan is consistently trying to get us to think that um nicholas jackson's a good signing um i've been told and i never ever ever ever want to be quoted on this um but we do get told bits of information i've been told that nicholas jackson is never coming to man united so there we go i hope it's true but i don't i don't even know why i said that because i wouldn't even want to jinx it and i thought i probably have um but there we go um let's talk about sesco for a moment then so let's talk about the striker situation just wanted to catch up in some of the chat chats there so with regards to the striker situation Let's talk about Sesko first.

14:24So why is he too expensive for Manchester United? His release clause is like the Bermuda Triangle. It's a bit of a mystery. All we know about his release clause is that it was adaptable and it kept changing based on how many goals he scored. So his release clause a year ago wasn't the same as it was in January and it isn't the same as it was at the end of the season. The belief is his minimum release clause is£68 million. So with Tuna, it was£62 million and obviously that means you've got to pay£62 million unless you can do a deal with Wolves around installments. arsenal couldn't get leipzig to budge they wanted the price and they wanted it up front and if arsenal wanted to pay installments they were going to have to pay more which is what we did with sesco i think and not sesco xerxi i think xerxi's release clause was 32 and they wanted it up front and man united said we'll give you 34 if you let us pay over four years and they were like okay we get a couple of extra million so the issue we've got with sesco is that even though it's believed to be 68 million about some people say it's more than 80 million euros which is more than 68 million so let's say it's 70 million you go to leipzig and you go we want sesco and they go well 70 million pounds and he's yours but we want it up front and you go well we will give it you installments and they go no we want it up front if you want it in installments it's 76 and suddenly you're paying 75 76 million to do it in installments so it is a huge amount of money and it shouldn't become it's not it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody that if you want sesco it's a huge price to pay um arsenal basically get jokeres for about 20 million pounds less up front like they're getting in for 55 million plus add-ons sesco was probably going to cost them about 70 million up front plus add-ons so 15 million um and the debate is there about whether you would want jokeres or sesco so the 15 million gap shouldn't have been there and i think arsenal will never know i think arteta wanted sesco for a long time he wanted him last summer he wanted them in January.

16:52But I think what Arsenal did to Leipzig is they said, look, we're unsure about Jokeres or Cesca. We're unsure. We're certainly not going to give you£15 million more than Sporting when we're unsure about which one to go for. And I think Arsenal probably did quite rightly go with the right choice. I'd have gone with Jokeres anyway, but I think they also would have looked at it and gone, well, one of them's£15 million more and we might get it wrong. So I think for Manchester United to go for Cesca, we are actually asking the club whether we like it or not and it's been proven by the Arsenal deal we are basically saying give Leipzig 70 75 million quid and that's a lot of money that that is a lot of money for us to do that he's a very talented player but I don't think that price is going to come down so I think when we talk about Sesko yes he's the best player that's available he's a very talented player he's very redactable player has still got a lot of potential to keep growing but you are not getting him for anything less than about 75 million and that's in installments so it's a lot of money isn't it and i think that we do need to be fair in relation to that because also i remember about a month ago sesco's agent saying we are not going to disrespect leipzig we basically saying we want them to get a good price so you know and then you've got jokeres saying i will disrespect sporting i'm going to go to mallorca and refuse to train so you can see why arsenal went for jokeres very good striker cheaper and was willing to go on strike whereas sesco very good striker expensive and basically is there to help help them out so a lot of money uh rasmus did not cost 72 million pounds resto though um you should go and work for sky sports mate we haven't paid 72 million pounds for rasmus at all we paid i think we paid 60 didn't we in installments with add-ons so we haven't paid 72 at all and you need to look you know what's that got to do with the price of bread anyway we paid 72 for rasmus which we didn't so we should pay it for sesco maybe we can't afford to do it because of that um yeah i just think that i suppose the question is would you pay 75 million pounds for sesco i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't i um i think we're talking about goalkeepers midfielders and strikers that's a hell of a lot of an outlay a hell of a lot of an outlay to stick somebody up front on that fee who is young and say solve our problems and there's no guarantee that any striker at man united is going to be successful so i think it's a hell of a lot of money hell of a lot of money that could be spent better elsewhere and honestly i like sesco be very excited if we signed him but if you're asking me would i go and spend what needs to be spent on sesco which is effectively going to be 70 to 75 million quid i'd go how much is mateta going to cost me because i can get mateta and a midfielder um can we grind villa down to watkins the 40 million or 45 because if i can get watkins and a midfielder and that's how i'm thinking i i think that i think the risk factor is very very high um with that i don't think we'll go for sesco i think when you do your homework on the fee they're looking for and that's not taking into account agent fees and wages etc i mean swedish rumble this morning did a very interesting post about some figures that have come out from manchester united and there's some very gray areas around add-ons etc as well being paid in the last few uh transfer deals that we've done so um interestingly though on strikers um this was an interesting story i saw this morning around uh muani and it's coming out of italy so muani he spent his time and look we have to consider at this point we're not in concrete talks with anybody so we can't with any conviction say that we're not in for this player we're not in for that player we know we want a striker and we're not you know firm on anyone at the moment um pardon the time um but i think that i'll tell you what if we're firm on bloody jack jackson we should be locked up but the reality is Mawani could be a consideration now what Corriella della Sport in Italy are saying is that the Mawani situation has drifted from Juventus but could very much involve a transfer triangle with Manchester United so what they're saying is that Mawani did quite well on loan from PSG to Juventus from January till the end of the season but Juventus aren't able or or Mawani basically that there's not really much happening on a follow-up for Mawani and that Newcastle and Manchester United are more likely to get him well as we know Newcastle are now moving on Whizzer so if that takes Newcastle out of the equation does that leave us a freer path to go for Mawani but then it goes on to say that if Mawani isn't coming back to Juventus then Juventus would look at Rasmus from Manchester United so that could be quite an interesting thing to monitor I mean even if we don't get Mawani and Juventus don't get Mawani then it could still mean that Juventus could go for Rasmus as well um my feeling is that we're going to move Rasmus on and if there are options there for him that there were in June there were good options in June I think it was into Napoli um there could well be options for juventus and rasmus as well later in this window and potentially moani for us so i think that rob says google says otherwise rasmus we didn't pay 72 million pounds for rasmus hoyland i mean i will look at it later but no i will actually do it now we didn't pay 72 million pounds for rasmus i've been living a lie if we did

23:01no it didn't this is straight away instant answer manchester united uh transfer fee for atalanta was 72 million okay then you read it the fee included a payment of 64 million with 8 million in potential add-ons sit down i've cleared the game i don't i don't know i don't know why i mean This is something that Terry was on about today. Have you noticed how if Liverpool or Arsenal buy a player, it's the fee without add-ons? But if Man United buy a player, it's the fee with add-ons in the highest currency you can find. So if Liverpool buy Jochores, it'll be 55 million, even though there's add-ons, yeah?

23:4555 million pounds. If Man United buy Rasmus for 64, it'll be 72 million because it's add-ons and then they'll do it in euros it'll be 80 so it'll be 55 million for jokeres but it'll be 80 million euros for rasmus and he'll have add-ons and it'll be converted to euros even though we don't do euros brexit means brexit um so yeah this happens a lot um add-ons i don't use add-ons on a transfer fee because they they're they are what they are they're add-ons they're not they might not be achievable um but it always happens with manchester united 64 million pounds is still a lot of money mo i completely agree i agree completely agree but don't be one of those prats who you know i'm man united deserve to be ridiculed and embarrassed in relation to some of their transfer activity but it is incredible how our fees get boosted up i mean surprised they haven't said it's 80 million pounds but and boomer yet um and try to find you know ways that it pushes the price up but um yeah so keep an eye on that moani could still be an option for Manchester United, which could open a door for Juventus to move for Rasmus, certainly.

24:58Just on Ganacho as well, actually, I'll just go through some of your comments here. Let's have a quick look at what people are saying. Italian food, nothing but pasta, tomato and cheese, is Brian. Shut up. Shut up. What about pizza? What about meat? Chicken? What about olive oil? you know italian foods you you need to you need to educate yourself thank you very much that's like saying indian food is nothing more than you know chicken and naan bread or chinese food is just noodles and prawn crackers or american food is just burgers and chicken wings or english food is just fried breakfast you know educate yourself mate um do you think pogba sorry i don't even know who that player is i'm kenny so i can't answer i'm afraid it's definitely not pogba

26:04oh that was acting get me a job on eastenders um mantan says uh have a guerra news is it true we'll have to wait and see pal we'll have to wait and see um look i hope it's true apparently we want a midfielder a goalkeeper and a striker um and what i will say about that is we want a goalkeeper a striker and a midfielder it's half past 10 on july the 23rd there's five and a half weeks left of this window and we apparently we're going to buy three players uh hello we need to get bloody moving then don't we we certainly cannot sit like um was just said there should we sit back and wait till they come back from the tour by the time we come back from the tour there'll be three weeks left of the window we can't do three we can't do three deals in three weeks so i'm i'm absolutely guaranteeing to you now that while we're on the tour maybe today maybe tomorrow maybe next week we are going to do man united are going for this player whether it's ollie watkins whether it's Guerra, whether it's Lament, we will have to move quick on some of these deals.

27:16Isn't the price for Sesco similar to what we paid for Rasmus' tech? I mean, it's not the Atacott show, so I won't try and lace it with a bit of comedy, but what's your point? No, it's not similar to the price we paid for Rasmus. It's£10 million cheaper. The price we paid for Rasmus is a little bit more than what Arsenal paid for Yonkerez, which is a clip in itself and the only person who needs a clip is man united around the year how did we pay 64 million pounds for rasmus and arsenal have paid 55 million pounds for jokeres that's incredible but that's welcome to manchester united and their negotiating skills and that's not rasmus's fault we should have paid 40 we should have paid 45 for anthony um we've been ripped off for years but i don't get what Rasmus' price has got to do with Sesco.

28:08Like, what's the context? Are you saying we shouldn't spend it? Are you saying we should spend it? You know, we bought Mbimo this summer for£65 million. It's not that far off the 80 we paid for Anthony, is it? Are you saying we should have done it or we shouldn't have done it? You know, we should do it. We need to spend money. We just need to spend it better. I wouldn't say£70 million for Sesco. He's a developmental player. We need experience up front. Paying for potential in that position is not something I'm in favour of right now. It won't help us make up the ground. I think Patrick makes a good point.

28:42I think my concern is, and it wouldn't be£70 million. Remember,£70 million is the release clause. We won't pay that because you'd have to pay it up front. We would have to go higher to do instalments. I think people really need to understand that. You don't pay release clause because the club can demand it in one payment. you pay more than the release clause so you can pay an installment so it'd be more than 70 million pounds for sesco my big problem is he comes in huge fee man united striker way more pressure than joker rezeketike because he plays for man united um and he plays in a worse team and i can just see sesco after four games with no goals running around up front with no service his head down and he's young he's inexperienced and we're in trouble and that those things concern me whereas i think if you put mateta up front for 40 it's a different fee it's a different expectation and he probably would do better and i think also you'd be able to buy another player because you'd have another 30 million pounds in your pocket but that's goes the best player on the market but i think it's riddled with risk um is there a chance we get mateta cheap and he's the striker I want.

29:53Also, are we looking at Spurstein from Krasnodar for the midfield? Cheap Bruno backups, says Raffo. Never heard of him. I have heard of Mateta. Mateta's got two years left on his contracts and Crystal Palace don't want to sell. I don't think that means he's cheap. I think they could ask for 50. I mean, look at what Brentford want for Wizza, who's 29, with... I think he's got two years left on his contracts as well. So, bring in Sterling on loan, says Kiel. Keep rasmussen zerksy get a proper striker next window keel you know what you've got to be the most unpredictable contributor to the united stand in history sometimes you know you come up with utter shit like that and then in five minutes you'll come out with something where you totally redeem yourself i mean get sterling in on loan what are you talking about the guy's shit mate and i'm a i'm i'm somebody that said sterling's been you know treated badly over the years scored a lot of goals for England and Man City but look at him for the last two years he's crap absolutely crap I mean I just don't think he's interested in football anymore well yeah it'd be perfect signing for United over the last 10 years but not if we want to move forward um thanks to everyone who's watching this morning by the way make sure you smash a like and subscribe two o 'clock show as normal and eight o 'clock tonight we're loving that the after show was good last night uh the United Kitchen is back he says thank you for this community Mark we love you in Nigeria people from here supported our small youtube channel please shout us out again united kitchen tv and i'm i actually couldn't find it yesterday so i'm going to write it down

31:31um i will be here for the here we go video next week says ryan ryan is only so far you can push our mental health it was funny at first ryan's a chelsea fan and he keeps talking about how good nicholas jackson would be there's a point where the joke becomes bullying and mental torment and it is starting to impact me i think mateta is the best option left but if arsenal sign esi then palace won't sell mateta says armand i don't think they want to sell mateta anyway they are in europe would wizard work at united says yosef i don't think man united are going to go anywhere near a brentford deal i think we've got uh you know uh some sort of uh panic attack in relation i mean look we spent seven weeks negotiating with brentford they wouldn't work weekends and we gave them exactly what they wanted so i don't think we'll be going back to brentford anytime soon um i think united are probably the number one club in the league that want to see brentford get relegated um city wants to shift nunez apparently says keel yeah we don't want them it's called steak pizzioli just to google search my boy this is jay laura lloyd all right let's have a quick look at this

32:48i don't know why i've never looked at it steak pizzioli images that's it that is it i mean it's a lot cleaner what i had but that's basically it it's steak with like a a tomatoey sauce on the top well done there we go was that it was that easy luke gambu tube says we can't pretend that we wouldn't have got rinsed for incoming player prizes if teams knew we had 100 million for bruno board would have got one player for that bruno is worth three players to this team luke thank you very much for your super chat can i just say the only thing i would i think there always needs to be an answer sometimes and luke says that if we'd sold bruno for 100 million pounds we would have got rinsed we didn't sell bruno for 100 million pounds and brentford still took us for 65 million for embumo so i don't think it would have made a massive amount of difference i don't think if we'd sold bruno brentford could have got 80 out of us um it's all contextual at the end of the day but you do make a good point and we spoke about it at the time that al halal deal for Bruno.

34:01United probably did factor that in. If we take that 100 million, we're going to get rinsed anyway, because what you'd ideally do with that is you'd know Bruno is going to El Hallel and you'd spend all the money first. But obviously we couldn't do that. Notorious says, because this season is so important that we do well, would you rather Watkins or take the risk on Sesco? I'm worried Amrind won't survive a bad season. I think you're right, Notorious. I think we've absolutely got to bring in the players now which is what we're not going to do we're not going to be ready for the start of the season are we we've absolutely got to bring the players in now to succeed now um we had a comment on the show last night where somebody said is it an idea to keep the money back for next year rather than spend it now if we can't find what we want and the thing is there is no such thing as patience and time at manchester united what feels like a logical idea now waiting till next summer for your striker will cost the manager a job now but you can't wait you have to move um which is why i wouldn't spend 75 million pounds on sesco i'd spend 40 on a striker and 30 on a on a midfielder we will be in a better position for that and amram will be in a better position for that for every year we're not in the champions league we get set back by three years no signings for him means no progress i think this is a great great great great point that that should be framed and put on the wall at carrington even every year we're not in the champions league sets us back at least two maybe three you're right look at the spending power of arsenal chelsea man city and liverpool for one year in the new champions league in fact chelsea's first year in it the spending power is incredible and they're in it again next year that happens again and again and again and again um just want to talk about the goalkeeper situation because there is an update around unana obviously this squad has flown out to the states and we're looking forward to those games of course but interestingly um unana has flown out has as has martinez now that doesn't mean they're going to be fit to play The feeling is that he won't be able to play games for Manchester United because he's still recovering from his injury.

36:22And Martinez certainly won't be playing games. It's part of his recovery. So both players, it seems, are on the recovery track. And that's why with the team, it's squad building, it's morale building. 100 % you want to go on the tour and be part of that and build with the team. But the feeling is Inanna will be back for the Arsenal game. which is still three weeks away. So it begs the question, what's going to happen with the goalkeeper? Which is why I think Le Mendes makes the most sense at the moment. Because I think Arsenal, I can basically pick the team for Arsenal. You can click this now and we'll see if I'm right, but I can pick the team for Arsenal.

37:02Anana will be in goal. I'd say he'll go with Deleu, right wing back. I think he'll go Dorgou, left wing back. I think he'll go Masraoui, De Ligt and Yaro as centre-backs. I think he will go Casemiro and Bruno, unless Agate really excels on the tour. I think he will go Kunja, Ahmad and Xerxi and use Mbema off the bench. I can pretty much pick the team. He won't use Ahmad as a right wing-back against Arsenal and I think he will start amat we might use embermo as a false nine but um yeah that'll be our team against arsenal i can i can pretty much predict it so lemans makes the most sense because anana is going to start the season and we're not going to replace him after that are we so lemans coming in to compete with him i think is probably the way it's going to go because it's not going to be long before anana is back but look i don't know whether that team loses to arsenal or beats arsenal anything's possible on the opening day but it's not enough improvement as i said last night we're not ready we've made a couple of good signings we've moved rashford on um but we haven't had a we've not had a very good summer transfer window we're certainly not ready for the start of the season in the way that we need to be um but that is why we need to get moving on further deals asap um i think it i think it's it's such a shame that we've basically we know we've got Chelsea Man City and Arsenal in our first five games and we know we're massive under underdogs in those games and we know that we could lose all three I mean we could factually be three losses in our first five and we haven't done enough to be ready for the start of that season and Chelsea Man City and Arsenal have improved from the good teams they were last year um but i was watching just on the goalkeeper i don't know whether anybody saw it today there was a clip on x about um degea and basically what degea said is that um he'd been offered after he left man united well he didn't leave but he was kicked out in in ridiculous circumstances he said he was offered english clubs but he didn't want to go to an English club because he'd had such a good great career I think he said at Manchester United and he didn't want to play for another English club and he said that he's really happy at Fiorentina with his family now etc and then somebody like did a clip compilation of his saves from last season for Fiorentina and look I'm a big De Gea fan anyway but I would I would implore anybody to try and find that on X and watch it because look some of the saves are point blank Dabber De Gea using his feet, using his hands, his ridiculous reactions that we saw at Manchester United.

39:52And, you know, he's a brilliant shot stopper. But you know when he's got a little bit more time, when he's making a really good save, but he's got a little bit more time and it's not just reactionary. It's just like there's a shot against, it's actually Anthony in the, was it the semi-final at the Conference League? Anthony curls it along the floor and it's going in the bottom corner. and he's at full stretch but he also tilts his wrist so that when he saves it it goes for a corner um and there's a couple like that where one's going in the top corner and he sort of palms it with a bit of a lift to put it over the ball and i just was like watching it going i shouldn't be watching david de gea fiorentina best save clips going oh my god what is this wizardry because we had this and what we've got now is a goalkeeper that isn't that good but also when he makes saves has got zero understanding of angles and wrist movement to get it into away from danger and look donnarima does it allison does it but you watch an honor and it's like volleyball he just he just puts it back into the danger zone and it's like we had that goal keeper who's got wrists that are not only not only will i make a worldy but you know like part of his goalkeeping education quite rightly is not just making the save but where the ball goes after the save that's the difference between a good goalkeeper and a top class goalkeeper and that is why amrin will want a new goalkeeper because we haven't got a goalkeeper that is under that understands the ability to save a shot and put it out of danger also he can't get down low can he either so um this is why i mean this was a another real eye opener as to why we need a goalkeeper a new goalkeeper because we actually need a goalkeeper that understands the technical um aspect of the game that is non-negotiable non-negotiable um yeah oh good at show i did certainly just before we start wrapping i'm not going to wrap uh an honor more like oh no no says rads uh do you think saulath would consider a move back to the premier league he's a cheap second tier harland um and uh nobody has a better conversion rate in la liga i don't think we're about to do a deal like that i think we're gonna i think we're gonna be aiming a little bit higher than that uh elliot says hi mark loving the what i mean by that is i'm not saying saulath's bad but I don't think we're in desperation street now.

42:28I think, you know, if you get Oli Watkins, he's still considered to be one of the better strikers in the Premier League. If you get Mateta, similarly, he's got a good reputation in the Premier League and more to offer. So I think we will be going a little bit more Premier League experience as well. Hi, Mark. I'm loving the show and the community. Is it true that Villa rejected a loan for Martinez to Man United as Elliott? I mean, somebody mentioned this yesterday. I mean, I don't know why Manchester United would waste energy. I mean, Greta Thunberg should be knocking on the door saying, what are you doing?

43:02You know, why sending an email offering a loan leave to Villa for Martinez? You may as well walk out with an axe and start chopping up trees and then, you know, just throwing them in a ditch and not using them for paper or firewood. At least there's a purpose to that. I mean, she still wouldn't be happy. but sending an email to Villa about a loan move for Martinez is just a waste of time. Like, well, hello, yeah, Manchester United here, we'd love to loan Martinez. Hello, I think he's hung up. I think he's hung up, Omar. It's like someone ringing us up and saying, hello, will you loan Bruno out?

43:43Like, Martinez is one of their best players. You don't loan a player out to a rival. i do and i don't think and i think he's got plenty of years left on his contract as well i mean i'd love to get him on loan but that's christmas um it's july rad says i do worry about bruno in the pivot i just don't think bruno is ever going to be disciplined and it's going to cost us dearly it's a continual conversation would we should have sold ganacho seven months ago do you agree says thomas i mean in hindsight i think this is a great point i didn't want to do it some people did some people didn't i didn't like the idea of doing it but in hindsight of course you would you look at the position we were in in january he was more valuable but a lot of us would have been unhappy about it because we didn't know where it was going to go it's an in hindsight decision isn't it it's like i in hindsight think we should have kept 10 hard till the end of the season we'd have been in a better position but at the time i don't think anybody could have envisaged just how bad Amarin would do in the circumstances.

44:43So, yeah, yeah, of course we shouldn't. But it's, you know, I don't think anybody thought it was going to go this bad. Will Lenny Oro go to the Olympics? Love the show, says Rah. Rah. When are the Olympics? They're miles away. 2012 was London, 16, 20, 24, 28. Three years away. Bloody Olympics. i'll tell you what bloody olympics go and take a big jump over a bloody pole vault with a pole vault what are you talking about bloody olympics the miles off um if we don't get a goalkeeper all our transfers and progression won't change anything says hamuda we all know that you build a team from the back and an honor is a calamity uh derek says sesco is not a developmental player with three champion leagues euros and 20 plus goals per season for three years 70 75 million with add-ons is the same price we played for Hoyland in the end no we didn't Gary what I'll tell you what we've had a great show and you always get somebody that wants to come and spew total shite um we didn't pay 75 million pounds for Rasmus we paid 64 and we and he won't have achieved the add-ons what are you talking about what what what is the relevance of Rasmus and Sesco I don't get it I don't get it at all and nobody's saying that he would be a bad player but that's a lot of money to pay for sesco a lot of money when we need a goalkeeper and a midfielder if we buy him great but i can understand why we're not looking at it and i can understand why arsenal walked away from it as well what about chloe kelly marks is dullen she can't play uh get watkins develop ob simple get a midfielder says ayush have you seen all the mission impossible films they're top tier says jay law i think i've only ever watched one look closely at saul off he's available for 30 but atletico are interested in anthony highly suited six foot five fast exceptional in the air great percentiles says red devil girl another one who likes sawloff um any chance of seeing romano any on anytime soon says rasler i wouldn't have thought so not this summer wasting 75 million on sesco could use that the goalkeeper and center midfield says smith and our sense of midfield roster to control dictator game is awful says reese um just going back to that on romano i've said it before by the way it's not dismissive we have used to have fabrizio on quite a lot i just think that i mean fabrizio and david ornstein are the goats of the game aren't they and when we used to have fabrizio on we talk about man united and be able to get like interesting stories he does so much content now um that it's really difficult to get someone like that on and then get stories because what we found last year is people were going oh he's just regurgitating something he said five minutes ago over there and it was actually getting quite negative and we just thought for it so is brilliant at what he does but we're better off just reacting to his story on here as a community um because we just weren't getting anything that was like exclusive or interesting uh because it was being said elsewhere which you know i but i did really used to enjoy that i did enjoy it but yeah it was getting quite toxic and people were just going oh he's already said this it's the same old stuff um let's not criticize the club on transfers no european football always be difficult regarding finance let's judge in september when the window closes as razzler um no we can judge now that's what football's all about we can judge now we don't need to wait till the end of september we haven't got a striker we haven't got a goalkeeper the team we're going to pick against arsenal isn't going to be that different to the team that lost to Spurs.

48:18We haven't moved quickly enough. And I think Omar Barada, Jason Wilcox and Sir Jim Radcliffe will be fully aware that this window hasn't gone the way that it wanted. We can assess that now. We've got three of the best teams in the league in the first five Premier League games. And we've known that since the middle of June. We've got all four of the best teams in the Premier League in the first eight games. And we've known that since the middle of June. We're not as ready as we could be for this transfer window. And we can't hide around FFP, PSR or debt. the Glazers could have sold this football club and we could have a very different ownership that's very similar to Todd Bowley.

48:52So, you know, we can scrutinise those things. We don't need to wait until August for that. Bruno's never going to be disciplined, I worry, says Radz. I remember his save from Amata free kick, unreal, and his triple save against Arsenal, says Robert McKeown. Thanks very much, Robert. Thanks very much. What are your thoughts on Amad's place now, says Radz. I think against Burnley at home, Amad will play as a right wing back. I think against Arsenal, the first game of the season, he'll go with the low. And that means that either one, Ahmad or Mbamo, will have to...

49:30Or Kunja will have to go on the bench or go up front. Yeah. Fantastic show this morning. Thanks, everybody, for tuning in as normal. Brilliant comments, as per usual. Lots and lots discussed. Really enjoyed it. we're back at two o 'clock unless anything happens before obviously we've got the eight o 'clock show back in the studio with me later as well so thanks everybody as ever for tuning in um some really interesting comments there uh thanks for the stake uh out you could call it a stake out um and all i would just say is just look it's very difficult we have to demand better from manchester united but um we do get the piss taken out of this i mean like our prices get inflated compared to everybody else's.

50:15And we didn't pay £74 million for Rasmus. We paid£64 million. Add-ons are not part of the transfer fee. And, you know, as much as I'd love to take the piss out of our negotiating team, because I think it's bad, and what I will say is we paid£64 million for Rasmus two years ago, and Arsenal have paid£55 million for Jochores, the most prolific striker in Europe. So we do do bad business. Thanks everyone for watching. Take care, stay safe, and I'll speak to you on the next one. All right.