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27 Jul 2025 · 53m · 21 chapters

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140: HUGE Sesko TRANSFER News! Amorim's MIDFIELD Message!

In short

Manchester United transfer news and squad-building discussion, focused on striker Benjamin Sesko, goalkeeper Lucas Chevlier, and midfield comments from manager Ruben Amorim. Host Mark Goldbridge also reacts to a pre-season match vs West Ham and argues United must still sign key positions (striker, goalkeeper, midfielder) rather than “make do.”

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. The show references an “exclusive interview” on the channel with “the man of the match” from the previous game, conducted by Beth (no name given). It also quotes Fabrizio Romano and Ruben Amorim.

Key claims

United will “discuss again internally” a Sesko deal in the next 7–10 days with Amorim involved; Newcastle are making an important proposal. PSG has agreed personal terms with Lille goalkeeper Lucas Chevlier; Lille talks continue, with bids starting around 40m euros. Amorim says midfielder Agate needs adaptation and confidence; Bruno Fernandes leads by example but can lose focus/discipline.

Notable examples

West Ham had more possession but United had better chances in the first 65 minutes; midfield looked absent for West Ham’s goal. Comparisons include Gravenberch’s second-season improvement and striker value/resale logic for Sesko.

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Chapters

0:46

Benjamin Sesco Update

Discussion on the latest updates regarding Benjamin Sesco's potential transfer.

“I'd probably watch the first 65 minutes.”
2:17

Striker Market Insights

Analysis of Manchester United's striker options and market dynamics.

“Now, I said on the Watch Along last night and on the morning show, Oli Watkins is the priority for Manchester United.”
3:03

Significant Striker Update

Fabrizio Romano's insights on Manchester United's striker situation.

“because my opinion doesn't stack up against one of the best transfer experts in the world.”
3:38

Financial Considerations for Sesco

Discussion on the financial implications of acquiring Sesco and Newcastle's interest.

“biggest striker updates we've had all summer.”
5:13

Goalkeeper Update: Lucas Chevlier

Recent news on goalkeeper Lucas Chevlier and his move to PSG.

“And two, we could be looking at what isn't plan A, B or C, but is a very good option, plan D or E.”
8:16

Midfield Concerns and Rasmus' Role

Discussion on midfield needs and Rasmus Hojlund's situation at Manchester United.

“euros as l 'equipe reported psg start moving as they still cannot agree a new deal with donnarumma so i just want to say fair play to all of you you all said we should be going for chevlier Chevele, Chevele from Lille.”
13:43

Preseason Predictions

Concerns about Manchester United's preseason potentially affecting transfer decisions.

14:02

Debating the Striker Options for United

Explore the conversation around potential striker signings for Manchester United and the risks involved.

“Sesko would be another experiment and he's not a baller.”
16:42

Analyzing the Underperformance of United's Squad

Discussion on the disparity between Manchester United's squad potential and their on-field performance.

“I'll tell you what, I want to just say, just talking about the mainstream, right?”
18:59

The Impact of Pre-Season on Player Development

Insights into the effects of pre-season on new players and the challenges they face.

“After what I saw from Rasmus last night, we need to strike us as Luke.”
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22:47

Midfield Dynamics and Bruno Fernandes' Role

Examination of Bruno Fernandes' contributions and challenges within Manchester United's midfield.

“Sometimes we just look inside the pitch.”
28:01

Amarim on Bruno Fernandes

Discussion on Bruno Fernandes' performance and positional play in midfield.

“Some people are saying Agate had also gone part of the press, but the reality is there was no midfielder.”
29:12

Midfield Concerns and Player Profiles

Exploration of the need for a skillful striker and discussion on potential midfielders.

“midfield, it ain't that difficult to ping a ball into that much space and be up against Man United's defence.”
30:49

Transfer Negotiations and Realistic Targets

Analysis of transfer strategies and the importance of realistic player signings.

“If Douglas Luiz is one of the best options available over nothing, I would do it.”
33:09

Building a Cohesive Team

Discussion on the need for coherence in the team despite individual talents.

“We don't have those funds to do those type of deals.”
35:10

Cunha's Position and Style of Play

Insights on Cunha's playing style and suitability for different positions.

“on 250k a week and cost us 55 million pounds and has won a Champions League Inanna's on 140k a week and played in the final.”
38:08

Consequences of Transfer Delays

Discussion on the implications of late signings and pre-season preparation.

“If we decide to make do and not buy a striker, every United fan knows that Glazers and Ineos have failed Amarim because the evidence is there all summer.”
40:41

De Ligt's Underrated Performance

Praise for De Ligt's abilities and critique of media perception.

“Point two is apparently, apparently we signed Mbumo early.”
44:16

Preseason Reflections and Midfield Concerns

Analyzing the preseason game against West Ham and midfield dynamics.

“Sesco on 100k a week, so not much of a difference than the Watkins deal, says Paul Clancy.”
46:59

Bruno's Best Position Debate

Exploring Bruno's role and whether he should play as a number 10 or in midfield.

“And Embermo and Konya have just brought in.”
51:20

Amrin's Tactical Decisions

Discussing the tactical implications of Amrin's decisions and potential striker needs.

“Wouldn't have him in the midfield, but I think that's where he'll be.”
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0:01Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your Sunday morning Manchester United transfer news show. and we've got some big updates for you as Manchester United are right back in the race for Benjamin Sesco. This is an update coming in from Fabrizio Romano. We'll talk about that. We've also got an update on a goalkeeper that you all like, the Lille goalkeeper, Chevlier. Update on where he's going. We've got Ruben Amrim talking about the midfield, talking about the striker situation. Lots to discuss this morning. Don't also forget, you might have missed it when you went to bed last night.

0:35we've got an exclusive interview on the channel with the man of the match last night for many of you not delitz that would have been my man the match agate beth interviewed agate after the game he spoke about what amram's told him he spoke about uh embermo he spoke about kunya he spoke about menu check that out on the home channel as well but we've got a lot to unpack this morning and we're going to start off with the story about benjamin sesco uh before i do that though um look I think that one of the things that I would say is that watching the game last night, and if you didn't watch it, I think it is worth a watch.

1:07I'd probably watch the first 65 minutes. I think when the subs come in, it gets a bit crap. So, but yeah, look, I mean, surprising things. West Ham had more possession because I think we had the better chances. It was a good workout, a good intensity. My only fear is that the preseason perlough this year could be the team. we might overhide this team and go we don't need any signings and I don't mean the fans I mean Amrim and the club they might go well do we really need a striker do we really need a midfielder I think we'll get the goalkeeper I think we'll get Lemens but that's my concern is that you know Amrim was very positive about some players that you thought might be moving on are we gonna try and polish the turd so to speak and then get hit with a couple of knockout blows in October and September and realise we should have done the deals we were talking about.

2:01So let's have a look at it.

2:11Sorry, I've just been messaged something here around Sesco, so I'm just having a quick look at it while we're here. Right, start off. Sesco story. No messing about. Now, I said on the Watch Along last night and on the morning show, Oli Watkins is the priority for Manchester United. Um, and I think that with regards to, uh, where we're heading, obviously that's going to be very, very difficult because Aston Villa are asking for a silly prize. I said it a couple of times yesterday. I haven't had any information on this. Sometimes it's just fan opinion. In fact, most of the time it's just fan opinion on here.

2:44I don't think Sesco to Man United is not possible. Now I'm not saying it's red hot like I did. but I think that what does jump out to me is that this deal can happen for Manchester United if they want it to happen. But this is what Fabrizio had to say because my opinion doesn't stack up against one of the best transfer experts in the world. He says, Keep an eye on the Sesco story in the coming days as Newcastle go with an important proposal and Manchester United will discuss again internally with Reuben Amrim involved in the conversations with the directors and with the financials to understand if they can do a deal or not.

3:25The Sesco situation will be one to watch in the next seven to 10 days. That is a big update. Like that is a huge update this Sunday morning. This is probably one of the biggest striker updates we've had all summer. Basically, United have got to figure out the financials whether to enter the race. Now, I understand the limitations of Sesco. He is still young. There are still corners to be smoothed in relation to his development. But he is the best striker on the market at the moment. He is the best striker on the market because of what he can give you for the next 10 years, the resale value he could give you in four years.

4:11I mean, if he came to Man United and scored goals for three years and we were still shit, we'd be able to get our money back. So, because he'd be 25. So there's a lot of value in Sesco comparable to, you know, a Mitrovic or a Nicholas Jackson, or even an Arlie Watkins, to be fair. There's more value in it. It's more long-term. It's more what Man United are meant to be about now. So I hope this is true. And look, we're not dealing with, you know, Laurie Whitwell in the Athletic or James Ducker or, you know, the Manchester Evening News here, who you might go, don't know whether I trust them about transfers.

4:50We're dealing with Fabrizio Romano saying, watch the Manchester United situation. They're going to discuss Sesco this week. So look, he has said the same about Jochores. You know, there was that Monday morning where it was watched the next few days of Man United and Jochores. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. But the fact that it's on the menu, the fact that it's going to get discussed means that, well, two things. One, One, positively, we're still talking about strikers because we have to. And two, we could be looking at what isn't plan A, B or C, but is a very good option, plan D or E. So, look, let's see what happens with this.

5:25What we do know is Newcastle are, without question, the club that are a team. I'm trying to put... Sorry, I'll just say it because it's not the Newcastle stand. Newcastle have been absolutely tormented this summer transfer window. Liam DeLapp, Pedro, Mbemo, Eketike, James Trafford. They literally have dropped the ball on every single target. They tell the world who their targets are and then they miss out on them. And we know they want Sesko. And would you back Newcastle to get this deal done?

6:14I've just had another message about it here.

6:20I don't know I don't know Man United have got to put I mean look I just had a message from somebody here they're saying look where are you getting this information from and I'm saying watch the show um the Russell says huge bid well that's the second part isn't it what's it going to cost it will be a huge bid to get him what will it cost um if we if we go for it so it will cost a lot of money to do it. But the update is Fabrizio says, watch it over the next few days. Man United are going to discuss hijacking a deal for Sesco. The thing is, it's not really hijacking either. The RB connection with Favell, Man United being more of a pull of Newcastle, you would hope, and a striker that is ready to move.

7:03So yeah, I think keep an eye on this one, definitely. But it's exciting. What we must all do is just go, this is exciting because it's coming in from Fabrizio why would he say that secondly we we've embarrassed ourselves a little bit on strikers so far but I'm encouraged by that definitely uh Jaden's gifted a membership thank you very much for that somebody said in the chat how are you not tired straight into bed for three o 'clock up at 20 past nine that's six hours 20 minutes that'll do that'll do you only need six hours just to get by and then catch up tonight well it's individualism isn't it uh get your chats in Russell says huge bid we've covered that uh thank you very much um and uh thanks for the gifted membership says the best he got it there we go thanks everyone is tuning in make sure you subscribe and smash a like on the video so just a very very quick update as well there's a few things I want to go through but just a very quick update as well uh the goalkeeper another update from Fabrizio Romano explain this one because this is a player that we well some of you you're hipster a little bit like turkey um you wanted it at manchester united paris saint-germain have agreed personal terms with lucas chevlier uh talks on going with lille as requested uh bid starts from 40 million euros as l 'equipe reported psg start moving as they still cannot agree a new deal with donnarumma so i just want to say fair play to all of you you all said we should be going for chevlier Chevele, Chevele from Lille.

8:33He's going for some. Why are we not doing it money? I mean, if he's going for 33 million, then I would imagine that's a financial thing when Le Mens is half the price. Now, I don't know whether Le Mens is better or worse, but he's half the price. So look, sometimes you lot come up with really good suggestions, as I would call online scouts. It It doesn't mean United are looking at him. So just an update on that. Regardless of the Sesco wage demands will be high, says Ghost92. Yeah, well, that's something to consider. It will cost money, of course. Going crazy, totally hyped up for Sesco. Here we go, says Biz.

9:13If you are tuning in and you're a bit tired or it's a Sunday, look, it's a positive update. I mean, look, I'm not going to run away with this because a few weeks ago, I had the whole Man United to the Aquarius to Man United is red hot and that was the best Sunday of the transfer window so far I was buzzing and I'm not a big fan of Sunday so I imagine some of you are feeling like that this morning because this is a significant update around

9:44Sesco as I say Fabrizio saying keep an eye on the story in the coming days Man United are going to discuss this internally with Amrim and the directors to see what the financials are on a deal and entering the race with Newcastle. That's a very significant update. But as we know, De Lapp, Eketike, Jochrez, Watkins, we've had disappointment on everybody we've gone for. PD, he was one of our members, PD, P-Dog. He says, any news on the midfield? Yes, we have got some news on the midfield. So we will talk about that in a moment. some comments coming in from Ruben Amrim. I just want to get through some of the transfer stuff this morning.

10:26And I will read some of the, I've caught up on the comments, I think. I'll caught up on the super chats. Anyway, let me just have a quick look at the comments. Rico says, fell asleep and woke up at 5.30. Hoyland was never as good as Sesco for people who keep saying he's just a taller Hoyland. No, Sesco, I mean, I don't know loads about Sesco. I wouldn't say I've watched loads of Sesco, but I would say he's a very different player to Rasmus in the sense that he has more technical ability with the ball at his feet and he's more established goal scorer in the sense that Bundesliga, Champions League, etc.

11:01So he's scored more significant goals in his career, even though they are the same age. I mean, just on Rasmus, by the way, I mean, look, just because we're in for Sesko, just because Watkins is a priority doesn't mean that we get either of these players. As I say, Watkins is the priority at the moment. It just looks like the Villa have closed the door. He played for Villa yesterday. United could be wandering from another closed door to Sesco. That sounds like what it's going to happen. You can't just go, well, Watkins wasn't a priority. It was on Thursday and it has been for two weeks. But if we can't do a deal, we're moving to the next door.

11:35So it's the striker thing concerns me because we just seem to be wandering from one target to another. And, you know, it is a very important position. But this is what Amrim said after the game. He spoke about Agate, Bruno and Rasmus. I will talk about the midfield in a moment, but he said, I really like Rasmus's game, the runs, the way he fought in the game. One against one when we kicked the ball, he connected with his teammates and he did a good job. Look, I watched the game last night. I know better than to sit here and say we should keep Rasmus and stick him up front every week because that's just inflammatory bullshit.

12:07I think he's been short changed in his career at Manchester United. coming in at a 20 as a 20 year old with martial as your uh second striker to compete with was like coming in and you know competing with a cardboard cutout and then last season xerxes not really a forward so he's had to be man united's main guy for two years at the ages of 20 and 21 that's not great for his development or confidence um and hit rock bottom at the end of last season i would like to see him stay and develop but i still stand by what we've all said he should have an experienced striker next to him or a striker next to him that, you know, pushes him to the bench and then he's got to fight back.

12:44Does he want that fight if we bring that striker in? We could bring Seska or Watkins in and he could say, I want to go. So look, if Rasmus wants to stay when we brought the striker in, I'm happy. I don't know why anybody wouldn't be happy. It's more options. But if he wants to go when we brought a striker in, then let him go. That's the way I look at it with Rasmus. I get tired of the whole his shit, this, that and the other, or we should, or even the toxic positive, We don't need a striker. Give him a run. He could be the next Jokeres. Both opinions are wrong. We actually need a striker. And it's nothing to do with Rasmus.

13:16Like Rasmus should stay, in my opinion. We need two. But we need a striker. Like we shouldn't be going. As I said, my big fear last night when I went to sleep was that, nothing like that, was that we're going to make do. that the whole pre-season could be a pre-season perlowe in the sense that we start winning games we do okay and everyone says we don't need to sign anybody and the Glazers are getting very excited I don't care if we beat Bournemouth 4-0 Everton 4-0 Fiorentina 4-0 we still need a striker a goalkeeper and a midfielder nothing's going to change that no no football's going to change that no system's going to change that no goals are going to change that we still need those because in my opinion and many of yours, those were priority positions that we absolutely needed without a shadow of a doubt.

14:09Sesko would be another experiment and he's not a baller. But you know what, Tilak? I think it's helpful because I'm not disagreeing with you. It is a risk. But statements like that are just so absolute. It's like kick hammer him out his shit. And I think Like the reason communities like yours and ours are better than the mainstream is because we don't just make silly statements. We also add a layer to the conversation. And that's what I would urge you to do next time. Sesco is another experiment and he's not a baller. I think we should go for Watkins for this, this and this. Or I think we should go for Mitrovic or whatever, because you've got to be realistic about what the market is and you've got to offer up an alternative.

14:52We need a striker. If you don't want Sesko, where are you going to go? You know? If Wizza is pushing for a move, is that a move we should try and hijack? No Brentford pain to negotiate, but his chemistry with Mbermo worked well. Look, the beast makes a good point. Maybe that could be an option, but have we ever been really linked to him? No. I've never understood why there isn't a ride in an NDA in place when United go after a target. Why is it all over social media? Surely you get a better deal if it's done privately, says Monoxide. Trouble with NDAs is that loose lips sink ships and people, it's very, very difficult in football Having said that, it's a good thing to say on a Sunday morning There are certain footballers, ex-footballers, who've got those And celebrities, what do they call them?

15:40Is it injunctions? I think they're called something else So basically, and it's rumoured to be some footballers Some even say Man United players. I don't know. I mean, we could all guess at what the names of the players are. Super injunctions, that's what they're called. So basically, you've done something and you can go to court and stop the media putting it out there. And I don't know whether it happens in other countries, but there are some big celebrities, Annex players, who apparently have got these super injunctions. Which is incredible, isn't it? because we, you know, God knows some of these people might be on the TV, but we don't know what they've done.

16:25So, yeah, you never know what with these sort of things. I don't think NDAs are, they are suable, but I think in transfers you're going to struggle, aren't you? Because it only takes somebody to, you know, yeah, I don't think you can stop it coming out basically. I'll tell you what, I want to just say, just talking about the mainstream, right? there was a guy guy last night on TV, Graham Lasseau used to play left back for England and Chelsea and Blackburn, he was quite a good player actually and Robbie Fowler actually made sort of a homophobic I think it was a homophobic gesture towards him in a Liverpool Blackburn game and effectively I think that was because he's always been quite well spoken if you listen to graham lesseau you think he should be on bloody news night he's really he speaks really intelligently um well he's done it again because he made a brilliant comment last night and i thought you know what how rare is it to get an ex-player speaking like you lot speak so what he basically said was and we've never really heard it before he basically articulated it in a better way than i can but he said something along the lines of when you look at that Manchester United squad, what you see on paper, you don't get on the pitch.

17:46The team on the paper should be way higher up the league, but it doesn't deliver on the pitch. So effectively, what he's saying is, it's like the most amazing car, Ferrari, but when you get in it, it drives like a Vauxhall Astra, and that's United's problems. And that is so true. I mean, I fall into this trap all the time. I look at Manchester United and I look at our bench, especially on this tour. You know, I looked at West Ham's squad bench yesterday and like West Ham, Bowen, Wan-Bissaka and some of their players played 90 minutes. I mean, I wish we could do that, but we don't because we've got such a big squad and you've got to give Mount minutes and you've got to give Maguire minutes.

18:27You've got to give Shaw minutes. You've got to give DeLoe minutes. So you end up having to make subs, but West Ham and Everton and everybody, they probably will, you know, they they haven't got the squad that we've got, but then our squad doesn't deliver. On paper, we have got some brilliant, brilliant players, but we don't get the Chelsea Mason Mount, do we? We don't get the Luke Shaw of three years ago. We don't get the Casemiro of Real Madrid. We don't get the Inanna of Inter. As Madison says, the drop-off is insane when you look at it. The money we've spent, the wages we pay, but the reputation of these players, they don't deliver in a Magnet shirt.

19:02After what I saw from Rasmus last night, we need to strike us as Luke. Do you think, not think Sesco is another learner driver? I think he's on his P plates, if you know what they are. So learner driver is an L on your car. You've not passed your test. When you pass your test, you put a P there to say, I've just recently passed my test. I think Sesco would be a P in the sense that I think he's passed his test, but he's still new. So I wouldn't say he's a learner driver because at Salzburg and Leipzig, he's had to lead the line from a very young age and he's been playing in the Champions League with that regularly as well so I think he has more experience than what you'd call a learner driver like De Lapp or even Erasmus but he's still got things to learn he's not established I would say that but that in itself could be a positive because he's done very well and he's still got gears to go through at the age that he is uh sorry about the last message Oli should be the one says Tillak no no no Tillak we're all learning i i just would say so tillak saying sesco no uh watkins yes which look i i i don't disagree with that i just think it's um it's very difficult because there's a big difference between sesco in his early 20s and watkins who's about to hit 30 it's a balancing act and also you might have to pay the same if sesco's price is 60 and watkins price is 60 i'm leaning towards sesco again because it's like there's about eight years isn't there in difference um and there's still gears for i think sesco at 25 could be one of the best strikers in europe on the other hand he could be like nicholas jackson so that's the sort of thing um do you think we're in for donnarumma no hope i'm not wrong sorry i hope i'm wrong but our first eight games could be season defining if we lose against the big teams heads could drop and go back to last season dross as david look i think the big thing that nobody wants to discuss about last night and i you know i get the fact that it's the tour it's a bit of a pr machine there's a lot of positivity um you know i i was you know obviously beth's over there and she says people are really buzzing you know and i get all that because it's it's it's an it's a an intoxicating uh place new york and um the states and there's a lot of buzz it's pre-season etc um and i do get all that but i also think realism is really important.

21:19We did finish 15th. We did lose to Spurs. We haven't done enough. We've still got major weaknesses in the squad. And on top of that, we scored first in that game. And I think we all know when Man United score first or things are going well, we're all right. When things go bad, then that's the problem. And actually, it wouldn't be a bad thing if Bournemouth Everton, one of them scored first against us to see what it's all about because i think we're fine when we score first i think if we'd scored first in the europa league final we'd have won it the problem is when things go wrong and that's something that we're going to have to learn again and see if we've improved on because i think you're absolutely right um the beast says if if wizz is pushing pushing for a move is that a move we should try and hijack i don't think i've done that one thank you watch the gym by uh jow felix from chelsea yeah well jow felix is going to saudi for about 50 million quid isn't he Chelsea just uh they're just an absolute beast aren't they and I don't say it from a position of it's wrong I say it from a position of jealousy just how good uh they actually are when it comes to transfers um let me just update you on what Ruben Amrim had to say then as well uh you said about Agate first thing is adaption to a new team as I said you can check out the interview with Agathe that we have up on the channel um which Beth conducted last night nice to get those exclusive interactions with some of the players so you can check that out but this is what Amorim had to say about it um and effectively let me just get the direct quote so Amorim talking about the midfield really uh first thing is adaption to a new team when they're talking about Agate, a new country.

23:07Sometimes we just look inside the pitch. Off the pitch, you have some trouble sometimes. He's more adapted now. And then I think he needs more confidence. And that is also my job. And I think that on Agate is absolutely spot on. I think there is just this relentless impatience, certainly within the Manchester United fan base, to not look at context. Agate came into the team after pre-season, after three games, right at the end of August. had no pre-season within no time the manager that bought him is sacked you've then got another interim then you've got Amrim who basically comes in in December and it was just a very disruptive first season which is why I think Masraoui and De Ligt deserve a lot of credit because they were actually quite consistent amongst that disruption and they were players that had played for 10 hard before so that would have been quite unsettling but certainly Agate had no pre-season and you know I think there were some sporadic good games, but there were some questionable ones as well, which is why I think most of us have looked at this season and gone.

24:10When you look at Gravenbirch at Liverpool, his first season was pretty much the same as Agathe. It was a bit disrupted, but his second season was really good. Settled, pre-season, understands the league, has a manager that supports him. So I think it's a big season for Agathe. And I'm certainly not going to say Agathe is the solution after a pre-season game against West Ham for an hour. but he was a lot better than Casemiro was against Leeds because he's got the mobility I think you have to have a player like that in your midfield and I think with Agarte people forget he's in his mid-20s he's a player that can do that role and hopefully he'll be given the opportunity to do it there are limitations I think sometimes on the ball he's a bit questionable but the tenacity the speed across the ground the aggression we need that type of a player and I I think he's got to be utilised in that midfield if that's what we're going for.

25:09I don't know what... When we talk about midfield, we must be really careful because the midfielders that we're being linked to... I mean, somebody was saying last night that Juventus are going for Jolnlund. I mean, I don't know how they're affording Jolnlund. I still think if we go for a midfielder, it's more likely to be Ndidi. I wonder if now, amazingly, we might be trying to push Casemiro to the board towards the door again. I mean, we have been pushing Casemiro towards the exit door for about 18 months and he won't budge. So I don't necessarily think just because Casemiro didn't start last night that he's going to leave.

25:41He's got a year left on his contract. He'll want to go to the World Cup. But Ancelotti is a big fan of his. So I think that that probably won't be the case. But I feel that we do need a midfielder. And it was interesting what he said about Bruno because he said, look, Bruno, this is Amrim's words, he leads by example. He works really hard. He's always available. And sometimes he'll play with pain. But sometimes he gets frustrated and loses a little bit of focus of his job. Sometimes he wants to help so much. It is not the best thing. He has to wait for the ball. And I actually think that this Bruno, anti-Bruno movement, which, you know, obviously Ricky's never been a fan, and this pro-Bruno movement, which you could probably define as he can do no wrong, Claire FC, there is a middle ground.

26:29And I think the manager has just ended the debate. It won't end the debate, but he has just ended the debate because that's basically what I think of Bruno. I like Bruno But I'm fully aware of his weaknesses as well I mean he scored two goals yesterday One of them was brilliant He's a game changer He is massively important for Manchester United Whether you like it or not And I agree with Amarin that he does lead by example He does work hard He is always available And he does play injured But this is also the manager saying exactly what I and some of you have said He is frustrating He does lose discipline him lose focus um and sometimes he wants to do too much and that's not the best thing because you lose position he's got to be patient and and that's the manager so i i i make no apologies you know i know how the internet works i know how the united fan base works if you criticize someone like bruno fernandez you're toxic and you're a hater and you shouldn't be supporting this football club and yet the manager of man united has just said exactly what i've been saying for a very long time.

27:39There can be negatives and positives. There can be praise and constructive criticism. And he is our best player. He is our captain. He does lead by example, but he's also frustrating. He also lacks discipline at times. He also tries to do too much at times. And he's also not patient at times. That from Amarim, I think is brilliant. And every Bruno Fernandes, hater lover or sit on the fencer should read that and go well that's the mic drop on Bruno and Bruno needs to read it and understand it you are appreciated but you can be frustrating and those frustrations come from the belief that you have to do everything which causes you to get frustrated causes you to lose discipline in your positional sense and sometimes you just need to be patient and you know I think that's a fair thing now if we're going to use Bruno in the number 10 position or the number eight position then he does need to slow it down he does need to be more patient because that midfield is still a concern the goal that West Ham scored came because our midfield was gone like you look at that goal that West Ham score and the ball into Sushek is in the center of the pitch and there is no midfield now some people are saying that's because Mainu had swapped with Bruno and Bruno had gone forward.

28:59Some people are saying Agate had also gone part of the press, but the reality is there was no midfielder. And if you've got three centre-backs, maybe one of your centre-backs should step into the midfield, but that can cause chaos as well. The reality is if we're going to press like that and everyone's going to go forward and leave a hole in the midfield, it ain't that difficult to ping a ball into that much space and be up against Man United's defence. So look, I still think the midfield needs work, but we've spoken about that many times. Iceman welcome to members club thank you very much for getting your badge in we really appreciate you Arshan says despite okay game we had yesterday we can all we all can say we really need skillful striker and a fast holding midfielder says Arshan well I don't know what the profile of midfielder is we need if Agathe was many people's man of the match which he was um then is it a number eight we want but then a lot of people myself included quite liked mainu i got no issue with mainu by the way he's barely played i mean that's the worst man united premier league side ever and he's barely played so you know i think amrim dropped the hint in the press conference that mainu needs to get the intensity and consistency up well he's only going to do that through game time so hi mark i know we probably not linked with him but would you take douglas luis from uve apparently it's disciplinary issues you've a showing him the door maybe there's an affordable deal there what she thought says the two pump youtube i do like douglas louise and um we have been linked to him so that could happen but obviously um i think there's all i think any player we get linked to at the moment is going to be a concern because there is the balancing act between we finish 15th and we can't go for the very best players but there is also the balancing act that we can't do nothing so So I think Ollie Watkins is one of the best options available, so I would do it.

30:53If Douglas Luiz is one of the best options available over nothing, I would do it. If Emi Martinez is the best option available in goal instead of banana, I would do it. Is it the definitive I would want? No. But I think sometimes you've got to look at those options. I mean, look, I saw this. I can't remember where I saw it. But again, you know, I question this person's opinion on regular opinion, on regular. He sort of took over Gary Neville. But Rio Ferdinand basically has said at some point in the last few days that we should abandon any talk of Sesco and throw the kitchen sink at Belieber. and whilst I think many of us would agree with what he's saying I don't necessarily think it helps because at what point have we been negotiating with Brighton for Belieber what is the price of Belieber and you know I don't think it helps on the 27th of July to just start talking shit like we let's not go for a goalkeeper and throw the kitchen sink at Palace for Mateta or Wharton.

32:00There's a reason we're not linked to them because those players are locked in where they are. Brighton would probably want£100 million for Belieber. Now, people would laugh about that, but what did they get for Casido? They will want ridiculous money because they won't want to sell him. And I do worry about that type of analysis, although it does happen in our chat. It's not based on real world. It's sensationalist. And there is a place for that. But I think when you finish 15th and when you've lost the Spurs in a final and you're worried about the future of a manager, I don't think we're going to find much solace in let's throw the kitchen sink at Belieber or let's throw the kitchen sink at Wharton or let's just throw a load of money at Rodrigo or Izak.

32:50They're just not real. And the one thing we need to be is real. I think this fan base is past just give him a contract and sign it away. I mean, we can't do that sort of stuff. I'd love Believer, by the way. I'd love Adam Wharton. But we can't do those type of deals. We don't have those funds to do those type of deals. And we need to do real deals at the moment. And look, the reality is it might not be glamorous, but LeMens, Douglas Luiz on loan and Ollie Watkins, they're probably three doable deals that are not going to cost the earth. And we need to do those sort of deals. We need volume over quality anyway.

33:39I think with Embermo and Cunha, we've bought quality in at a cost of£130 million. We've left three priority positions not done. I think if I said to every United fan on May the 31st, do you want to spend£130 million on Mbimo and Cunha or would you rather get the three key positions done first? I think the majority would say I'd rather get a midfielder, a striker and a goalkeeper first. And that doesn't mean that Mbimo and Cunha are bad signings. They're very good signings. But that's the realism I'm talking about. I think people want. We've done glamour. We've done the whole let's get Pogba, let's get Sancho, let's get Alexi Sanchez.

34:20I think we just want some realism and stability now. You know, you look at last season and you look at the Fulhams and the Forests and the Brentfords and the Bournemouths. These are not teams with, you know, scattered with superstars, but they are well coached, they are well drilled, they work as a collective and they are a team. And I think that's something that when Graeme Lasseau says what he says, you look at United's roster of players or squad, there's so much talent there on paper but there's not a team and we need to build a team that's what we need to do we've got an amazing squad on paper I mean look as I said players that didn't even start last night that were on the bench Harry Maguire's on 190k a week and cost 80 million pounds Luke Shaw's on 200k a week and was one of the best left backs in the world Mason Mounts in his mid-20s on 250k a week and cost us 55 million pounds and has won a Champions League Inanna's on 140k a week and played in the final.

35:19Casemiro is on 300 grand a week, you know, and is one of the, you know, amazing reputation. I'm trying to think who else. Deleu, you know, there's some really, and this is our bench. And Louis says, amazing squad. But this is what we're talking about, Louis. On paper, those players have got good reputations, but as a team, it never comes together, does it? And we need to build a team. And that's going to be Amrim's biggest ask, I think Rico says, I think we're being limited by players because of no European football

35:59It could be a factor with Sesco I mean, Sesco's basically played most of his young career He's been in Europe, so that is a sacrifice for him It's no sacrifice It's no sacrifice Elton John it's no sacrifice for Cunha or Mbemo because they haven't played European football so it will be a factor obviously we know it was a factor with Jokeres and Liam De Lape apparently who's never bloody played in Europe the only time he's been in Europe is when he went on holiday to Mangaluf but it can be a factor but it won't be a factor with everybody yeah I don't like the I don't like the number nine Cunha stuff I mean if you've actually watched Cunha at Magnon at Wolves, or you've watched him last night, sticking him at number nine would be an absolute crime.

36:46An absolute crime. The way he gets the ball with his back to midfielders in the halfway line and gains 10 yards, it's just such a... He's like a rugby player, you know. And our people who understand rugby will know what I mean. Rugby's all about getting the ball and moving up the pitch through the tackle, gaining ground. A bit like American football. And Cunha's like that in football. You give him the ball high up the pitch and he then takes it even higher. Now, people would say, well, give him the number nine and he'll still do it. Trouble with the number nine is you're not involved in the build-up play as much as you are as a number 10.

37:27And trouble with number nine is that there's a lot of balls going beyond you to run onto. You don't get a lot of balls into your feet that you can turn and run at people because centre-backs are more aggressive. so I I I Konya's got to I'd rather I'd I would actually rather move Konya to the eight than the nine I'd rather bring him deeper than further forward because I remember Musa Dembele at Spurs and he reminds me of him a lot and he played deeper for Spurs uh because he's a very good tackler as well with a very good engine but I really hope we don't put Konya up front I'd rather put Mbim up front if we're going to do you know desperation but we clearly want a striker I think this is so important to say.

38:09If we decide to make do and not buy a striker, every United fan knows that Glazers and Ineos have failed Amarim because the evidence is there all summer. If we, and we might, if we don't buy a striker and we suddenly go, we're happy with what we've got, that's abandoning the plan, which is dangerous. And it's not backing your manager because we know we wanted Liam the lap in April and we didn't get him. We know we wanted Jocheres and we didn't get him we know we went in for eka tk and we didn't get him and we know we've spoken to biller about watkins and also we now know we're considering sesco so we've factually been after five strikers if we then go we don't want one everyone knows we did and therefore you're not backing your manager are you um kevin says since in burma just can i just say absolutely The brilliant audience this morning, 17 ,000 of you on a Sunday morning at quarter to 11 UK time after a game that didn't finish till three is fantastic.

39:13Chris, I haven't missed your super chat. You really do need to understand. You might be new, Chris. We get little moaners in the live chat going, you missed my super chat. You missed my super chat. What happens is you put them in and thank you very much for doing it. But I don't stop what I'm talking about because of it. I end the conversation I end the topic And then I go through them all That they're listed And make sure they all get read So calm your tits Kevin with a super chat Says since Mbomo We've done nothing Not even a concrete connection To any player That really scares me I think what I think I think where apologies Well we don't want apologies But where People who Accused certain people of being negative should be apologizing really is that in the middle of June I said we won't have a striker for the tour and some people were going oh stop being so negative it's only the middle of June the transfers window's only been open a week when July the 1st hits and it's a new PSR year we'll get going we haven't done anything since July the 1st we were negotiating for MBMO in June so since July the 1st and the new financial year we've done nothing I know we signed Mbumo after July the 1st, but we were negotiating with him for June.

40:34So since this magical new financial year, we've done nothing. We've not brought anybody in. So that's point one. Point two is apparently, apparently we signed Mbumo early. Well, we didn't sign him early because Mbumo can't play against Bournemouth on Thursday, couldn't play last night and missed the Leeds game because he hasn't had enough of a pre-season. So we haven't bought him early, have we? We've actually bought him late because he's miles behind everybody else, fitness-wise. So this is the issue. We're not in concrete talks with anybody. And when they do come in, they're going to be miles behind as well.

41:15So I think we're already at a point that whoever comes in, you're going to have to give them patience because a bit like Kogate last year, they're not getting a pre-season. They might get a pre-season where they are, but you know, imagine if you bring Watkins in, right? People will go, well, he's had a pre-season at Villa. That's like employing a guy to come into your business and speak French and expect him to do it because he spent the last two years living in Switzerland. No, they do speak French, idiot. Why did I pick Switzerland? Idiot That's like employing a guy or a girl who spent the last two years living in Norway, speaking Norwegian It's different, like the whole point of pre-season is to learn the system and players that you're going to play with So we've left it late again, we have left it late again Marlowe says it's time to give the captaincy to De Litt Enough with the Bruno antics I think De Litt is so underrated So underrated And I'm glad that people I gave him man of the match last night I think he's so underrated And I blame the British media for it They don't ever give him any credit He gets marked down all the time If there was a player ratings for last night I guarantee that someone would probably give him a 4 We know what certain journalists do it You know people didn't like him at the start because he was going to take Maguire's position um I just don't get the De Ligt issue he's so good he's physical he's still very very young he's quick he reads the game really well he's good in the air he puts his body on the line I think he's I think he's arguably our best defender with Yaro I think I think he's a brilliant defender and look you've still got Masraoui as well um and you've got Maguire who can come in and do a job you've got a young player like heaven we've got i think i think at i think at centre-back i'm really not worried at all i think we've got a really good mix at centre-back of experience mid-20s players and younger players we've got a really good uh good mix can you wish my mate uh niren jan a happy birthday says jimmy there we go happy birthday and to anybody else's birthday is iceman is a new member thank you very much for getting your badge in pal mark despite okay game we had yesterday I've done that one Donny D, welcome to members club This is a Glazer rebrand Not a rebuild, says Kiel Well remember, the Glazers and Sir Jim are out in the States Trying to get private investment from the States For the stadium More of a cash grab If we were competent, the B team that came on 80 % of them would have all been solid If we were acting like a big club I mean look, it's pre-season John West Ham kept a lot of players on for 90 minutes Like Wan-Bissaka Definitely Bowen I think there was some others.

44:04So they would have been tired in the last 20 minutes. We brought a whole team on and it was crap, really. You know, we should have been dominating them with fresh legs and points to prove. It is difficult when you've only got 20 minutes, but it was a flat last 20. Sesco on 100k a week, so not much of a difference than the Watkins deal, says Paul Clancy. Agate getting a preseason is going to make a massive difference, says Rico. A.K.A. Barella says, is Donnarumma gettable? um no i mean what i mean that one makes no no sense to me and remember donnarumma i don't know how it works now but donnarumma i mean obviously he's dead mino riola isn't he rest in peace but uh donnarumma is part of that stable so there'll be a lot of money there'll be a lot of agent fees involved in that we won't be getting donnarumma i mean he might go man city uh missed the game how did agate amene do in the midfield says jacob look i'm not going to glow it up it was a pre-season game against West Ham I think West Ham had more possession but it was definitely better than Leeds definitely better than Leeds Agarte was a contender for man of the match Manu was very good so it's definitely better hopefully we see more of it I think the big concern everybody has is that will we see that is that likely to be our midfield against Arsenal if it is I think we've got more and you've got to think of it like that when we play Arsenal what's our midfield games are won and lost in the midfield their midfield could be Odegaard Rice and Zabemendi do you want our midfield to be Bruno and Casemiro or do you want it to be Agathe and Neymar and that's what we've got to start looking forward to um Martinez is an eight would love to see that says Declan get some sleep uh watch the gym done that one from Murs Pengers says we can all see Bruno is best as a 10 will he end up being forced into the midfield like a square peg in a round hole or will we end up playing him at 10 and rotating at two new signings?

45:59This is Pengers. I mean, look, I'll probably get into this on the eight o 'clock show because I don't, I don't, I need to think about it a little bit more because Bruno's a 10. If Bruno played for Spurs, he'd be my number 10 because they play with a number 10. Yeah, Bruno is a 10 for me. In an Amrim system, the two 10s have to be ridiculously mobile. Bruno's not particularly mobile. He's everywhere, but he's not like intense mobile flair, speed, etc. I still think if I had Bruno Fernandes, he'd be playing in one of the number 10 roles. Look at yesterday where he gets the second goal. He won't score that from number eight.

46:42He gets that ball because Maynou is in the eight and wins the ball. So Bruno doesn't score that goal if he's a number is. He'd be the one trying, intercepting the mistake and playing the pass. So Bruno's a 10 for me. But then you go, Mount, Xerxi aren't going anywhere. Ahmad's not going anywhere. And Embermo and Konya have just brought in. So we've got five number 10s. Yeah, one of them can go and play on the right wing back position, but that's it. Ahmad or Embermo, only one of them can go right wing back and they won't be able to go there every week. So we've got five number 10s plus Bruno makes it six.

47:21So I can only see him playing as an eight.

47:27Half the article in the paper is about Goldbridge, says Dash Cam. What paper?

47:37You worry me now. Sunday morning articles. What she said? I fell into the hotel room. Well, you know, nothing happened. I was walking past the hotel room And the door, they left the latch off I fell in I thought it was Tolkien powder I'm winding up I don't know what that's all about Do you think Amrin might play Cunha with 9 With Bruno and Bermot in the 10s Assuming we don't sign a striker or window Keep up the good work, Marks, as Travis Do you think Amrin might play Cunha as a 9 With Bruno and Bermot? I hope not, I hope not I really hope not John United says the B team needs to go waste of space Why is it we're not linked to Mateta says Masuarin If we don't get a good deal then maybe go for a midfielder like Belieber and play Bruno up front I think Belieber is impossible mate I don't know why anybody's even talking about it I think it's a nice to have I think it'd be a dream fantasy signing But he's not for sale and it would be huge money that we don't have Thank you very much for that do you think Sesco is another learner driver we've done that done that as well just catching up on your chats thank you everybody who's done that can Bruno be a false nimes says Vinit oh I don't you know what we get we get a lot of people sort of talking about this Vinit and I don't know what the understanding of football is because everybody's welcome and we get a lot of new people and over the weeks and months They get used to the community and they learn and they become more entrenched in football.

49:18But so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. You might be a rage baiter. Bruno can't play as a false nine at Manchester United because we can't have a false nine at Manchester United. You can't have a false nine when you've got two number tens. A false nine like Harry Kane drops into the midfield and the wingers move beyond them like strikers. we don't have wingers that can do that because they're basically fullbacks to provide the width our number 10s are the creators you can't have a number nine dropping in and being a creator as well it doesn't work in an amrim system the number nine has to be a proper striker they can't be a false nine they have to be a striker harry kane wouldn't work in our system unless he didn't want to drop in so no it won't work amrim system doesn't suit a false nine says knight exactly do you think when martinez comes back he will move into the midfield so bruno can push up says Rowan probably yeah and I think Yaros shown it can be done I think one of the three centre-backs has to start stepping into the midfield I mentioned this when we kept Bruno everyone says it can't work it can work better if one of the centre-backs steps into the midfield and supports the Agate role Bruno Martinez would be very good at that but you know sometimes you've got three centre-backs imagine when we play Wolves Wolves have got one striker and we'll have three centre-backs.

50:37You know, one of those centre-backs has to start stepping into the midfield, definitely. Enjoy Life says, hear me out. Cunha 9, Bruno and Embermo 10, Mano and Agate midfielder. No, you've just wasted£62 million if you're going to put Cunha up front. Put Embermo up front. Don't put Cunha up front. Would you take Cante? No, James. I'd take Prime Cante. Enchanted Angel says, we need another win back. If we offload Shaw and Malassia, We need to go in for Robinson from Fulham. He has 10 assists. I don't think we're going to get another fullback, to be honest. Since Mbema, we've done nothing, not even a concrete connection to any players, says Kevin.

51:13Thank you. If Bruno is a 10 for you, does he start, says Jimmy. Yeah. I would always start Bruno as a 10. I would always start Bruno as a 10. That's his best position. And I think he's our best player. Wouldn't have him in the midfield, but I think that's where he'll be. I think this is a, it's not Bruno's fault, by the way. I don't know what, if I was Bruno, I'd rather play as a 10 than an 8. Definitely rather play. I mean, no one ever thinks about that. They have a pop at Bruno, but where do you think Bruno would rather play? I'd rather play in the position I'm better at. So this is on Amrim.

51:49This whole midfield thing is a huge, huge call. And if he gets it wrong, it's on Amrim. and if he gets it right it's on Amarin so I think the suit you know this Bruno in the midfield thing it's it's gonna carry on it's gonna carry on um thanks everyone for watching P says would Brian up top Kunja and Bruno in the tens be a bad idea realistically could be an option if you want to use Bruno mate we might need to be adaptable and he might have to be adaptable and the scary thing about that P is imagine we're sat there with Amarin this week and he's wanted a striker all summer and then he goes you know what i'm going to play bruno as a 10 so don't get me a striker i'll use embermo there is that a good thing or a bad thing and that's basically what you're saying what if amram just changes his mind this week and says let's not buy a striker i'm going to use bruno as a 10 and let's put embermo up front i mean that's changing the plan isn't it but look i still think you need to buy a striker uh thanks everybody for watching if you want to carry on the conversation terry's live on the football terrace um he's just about to start as well uh have a great day um we've definitely got an eight o 'clock show later we'll see if there's any developments around anything uh for a two but it is the weekend so thanks everyone uh make sure you smash a like and subscribe i actually feel all right i'm gonna go and get myself a coffee and you know do do some work i think chill out a little bit take care everyone thanks for watching

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