150: Baleba PRICE Set! Sesko DEAL Day!

0:01Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news this Thursday, the 7th of August. As we talk Belieber price set, we talk Sesco deal day, we talk Ganacho progressing to Chelsea, we talk Rasmus heading out of the door and we also talk what happens if we don't get Belieber. I believe there is a strong statement for Manchester United to be made that they have to go and still buy a midfielder. But lots to get into this morning. The live chat is working, which is what it's all about. But we're going to hit straight away with some news coming in.

0:39A raft of news, really. But I want to start off with, well, look, with Cesco. We'll speak about that in a moment. I think with Cesco, we're waiting for Let's Go, Cesco, because we're still waiting for Manchester United to finalise a deal. I mean, apparently, according to Pletigold, and I do, I don't want to, I want to start off a believer, But according to Pletigold, Newcastle have still got representatives waiting in case in Leipzig, in case we mess it up, which I find absolutely incredible, really. I mean, I don't even have an analogy for that. It's almost like turning up to the wedding of the person that you love, who loves somebody else.

1:16And he's stood at the altar marrying them. And you're just waiting in case that person, you know, chokes or something like literally chokes. and you walk in and go, I'm here, I'm not joking. I don't get that. But apparently that's coming in from Pletigold that Newcastle still have got representatives in Leipzig in the hope that it falls through. I mean, there's an element of sadness to that, I would say. But look, we're going to start off with Belieber, although I've just seen a bit of the news coming from The Guardian that Chelsea are to step up attempts to sign Ganaccio from Manchester United.

1:46The Argentine is keen on the move and is available for 50, although Chelsea are unwilling to pay that. But that's not where I'm going to start. I'm going to actually start off with the latest around Ganaccio. And what was an incredible day yesterday, let's be honest, not only did we get the verification that Sesco wants Manchester United, we also got this Belieber story that came out. And there's a few bits to sort of pick up on this. And I think the best place to start is probably with what Fabrizio said overnight in relation to Belieber, and it is here. Manchester United believe agreeing terms with Belieber won't be an issue but the club to club deal with Brighton will be very difficult Brighton do not want to sell since day one Amirim has wanted a midfielder similar to Belieber's profile he wants intensity in the midfield and sees Belieber as the perfect target I think that was actually from last night but there is there is more on Belieber um um Indy Kalia Indy Kayla Cali Kayla news I mean I'm just going to go with this i said my piece last night well done to them they have had some accurate information beliba earns around twelve and a half thousand pounds a week um which is you know there will be man united youth players on that like that that wage is incredibly crap for premier league standard twelve and a half thousand pounds a week there will definitely be people in the championship earning more than that definitely more than in the championship earning more than that there might even be players in League One earning up.

3:17Maybe not with Brexham and Birmingham now, not in there, but that is not a very good wage. So effectively, what it's saying is that although Belieber is open to the move, what Brighton may try and do is offer a new contract to Belieber because you've got to. If a club like Manchester United comes in for Belieber and you're on£12 ,500 a week and Manchester United, who are bigger than Brighton say we want you but also we will give you um a hundred thousand pounds a week I mean it's not far off 10 times your age you're gonna knock on the door of Brighton and go you are playing a little bit of a dictatorship here because I'm on ridiculous crap money Man United are valuing me at 80 million pounds they're gonna give me a hundred grand a week and you're saying no I'm not for sale I'm a little bit being taken the piss off here you know so Brighton are gonna have to do something and what what it's saying is that brighton are set to offer belieber a new contract to fend off interest from manchester united brighton are eager to secure his future and would potentially include a release clause for next summer that could be activated so what they basically do with belieber is say we'll give you you know 75 grand a week or you know i don't know what brighton's wage bracket is but we'll give you a good wage for a year and then in a year's time you'll have a release clause and you can go um and that was sort of what ben jacobs was saying to us last week when he broke this story about belieber it's an interest from manchester united but it's a very difficult deal to do and it's probably one that happens next summer so that's where we are with belieber obviously we've expressed an interest brighton are saying not unless you've got silly money and potentially are looking at a new contract belieber would be open to a move to manchester united i don't know what the price i'm about to come to don't worry i don't know why that's breaking news by the way um with all due respect to brighton it's not really something that motivates me as a man united fan that belieber wants to come to manchester united because i think any brighton player would want to come to manchester united for a whole host of reasons so that's not the problem bright dealing with brighton's the problem now the price last night and i think it was indy kayla again they were saying that Brighton are looking for£90 million plus 10 in add-ons.

5:38Now, look, you can take that with a pinch of salt or you can take it as a reality. Personally, I think that's around the sort of price we're going to have to pay. Now, some people have said if Belieber refuses to sign a new contract and starts to get a little bit rebellious, that price might come down to£70. but you know that would be great that would be great for Manchester United but I also look at the way that Sesco's behaved and the way that Jokeres has behaved and I look at the way Anthony's behaving now and the way he behaved at Ajax and I just think sometimes a leopard doesn't change its spots I don't necessarily get on board with the players that start forcing moves and I know it benefits is in the short term but I don't know that it benefits is in the long term we start cheerleading about oh Anthony's on strike at Ajax because he wants to come to Manchester United and then you know three years later he's effectively on strike because he wants to go to Betis and nowhere else so I actually quite like and admire the personalities of Harry Maguire Bruno Fernandes and Sesco who wanted Manchester United but refused to disrespect Leicester Sporting and Leipzig respectively they didn't want to behave like that and I think in the long run that's something that I would rather have in a Man United player so I'm not so sure that I want Belieber you know going on strike and forcing Brighton's hand I don't think Brighton have done anything wrong for a start and I think a lot of Man United fans are like that like myself where yeah we are a big club but I do think football should be you know conducted in the right way and I don't really want Belieber on strike forcing the price down because Brighton found Belieber and they should be they should profit from it so I think that for me as I said last night am I as confident this morning as I was last night maybe I've come down to 50-50 to be fair because you know you get lost in the moment but I still would stand by what I said last night I think when you've got people like Ornstein and Romano reporting that we've been in talks with Belieber I sort of look at it and I go what's the end game then what's the point in that being out there if we're not going to do something with it and as with sesco and ornstein a week ago we ended up signing sesco and i believe there is a pathway because brighton will always do a deal the player will want to come and we obviously want him and the interesting stuff as well is is that amrim really wants this player it's like option a this is plan a and i think it will happen And I think the way it happens is probably more around 80 million pounds and more around installments and more around, you know, incentivized add-ons.

8:26I think it can happen. And I think as long as we walk into that as fans open eyed, so to speak, then I think we can do this deal. I don't think I don't really get it when I see people go, we're not paying 80. Let's get the price down to 60. Let's get the price down to 70. because I sort of go, well, they sold Caicedo for 100. Declan Rice went for 100. Are we saying that Believer's not as good as Caicedo or Rice? Well, he may not be at the moment, but I certainly think when you look at Caicedo at Brighton, there's not a hell of a lot of difference. So I think we can pay the price. I think we should pay the price.

9:02Obviously, rivals and certain United fans might get moody about that, But I think that we're entering a race where we probably should and will pay the price. And I think that'll be around£80 million. I really do. So, look, I remain confident, but I don't want to hear about Belieber going on strike to force the price down or anything like that. I'd much rather be buying players like Mbumo, who respected Brighton, like Cunha, who respected Wolves. And we've spoken about the personality. and I think there's a big lesson with plenty of United players and Anthony included where you know we champion them going on strike to come to United and then a couple of years later they're treating you like United like shit I mean I can't remember what's how Sesco I can't remember how Sancho behaved at Dortmund but he certainly hasn't behaved that well at Manchester United has he and Genovo is not behaving well and Anthony's not behaving well and some people think Rashford didn't behave well it is about how you conduct yourself on and off the pitch and I and I do believe that um you know Belieber we want him to be the personality that that that we're trying to bring into the football club which is really important um I want to get into your comments as well but I do just want to say this about Belieber I think this is really important if we are going for Belieber and it looks like we are and we do not get Belieber we have to get a plan b I think that would be absolutely criminal to go for a player publicly like we have done again when Ornstein and Romano point a report it it's public we know Amrim wants Belieber we know we've spoken to Brighton about Belieber we can't wait 12 months like 12 months can sack a manager it would be very disappointing not to get plan a but you have to go and get plan b you know you're talking about a player that after Sesco we're going to spend 70 80 90 million pounds on so we've obviously got the money and if we don't get Belieber we have to go and get somebody else because people can say, well, wait 12 months.

10:52When does football stand still? When can we afford to write seasons off? That midfield is a problem. If you can't get plan A, you can't then go, oh, we tried. You've absolutely publicised to the whole fan base that Amrim isn't happy with the midfield and Amrim wants a player like Belieber. So if you don't get it and you go, well, we tried, we all know that Amrim hasn't been given what he wanted, that he knows there's a weakness there and we're going into a season without it. So it would be disappointing not to get plan A, but there would have to be a plan B. And I think that's something to consider.

11:23Maybe not immediately because we're still in on plan A. And I believe there's a very good chance we can still do that deal. But if we don't do the deal, we can't just go, oh, well, we tried. There has to be a plan B because the midfield is a huge issue. And the club and Amrim have publicly put it out there that we do want a midfielder. So there has to be a midfielder. We can't go into this season with the midfield as it is. And I think that's really important as well. And it's also exciting because I'm not saying that the club won't do that. I think we'll probably get Belieba, fingers crossed.

11:52But if we don't, I think they will go for somebody else because we have to. Because if you wait for Belieba next year and we have a bad season because of the midfield and we finish seventh and Belieba's available, then maybe Chelsea go for him. Maybe Man City go for him and we don't get him anyway. So I think this is a one-shot lottery. You get him or you go for somebody else. That's my opinion on it, because I want this player and you always do want plan A. But if we don't get him, we can't just ignore it for a year and gamble on the fact that we can get him in a year's time. So hence, going back to what I said, that's why the outlay is worth it.

12:31Because if United are humming and ahhing going, if we give Brighton£80 million across five years, they'll give him to us. Can we quite afford it? And I would go with a player like that in your midfield, you solve your midfield problem, you finish higher in the league, you maybe get Champions League football and the money comes back. You don't get him. You wait a year. You're not in Europe and you go somewhere else. You've just lost a shitload of money. So you have to look at it in that sense, in my opinion. And I certainly think hopefully Manchester United will look at it in that sense as well.

13:05Emily Derry says, this approach for Belieber is high stakes on reputation for Vavelle, Wilcox and the board. The alternatives then have to be of similar profile and quality. Carlos says, if we get rid of the so-called bomb squad, we save about 35 million per season. Thank you, Carlos, for your super chat. We should go for Yulmland as a backup if Belieber doesn't work or not progress. I mean, I think that is a good shout, XO. Some people have mentioned Wharton, who I think would be as difficult as a young English player as a club that doesn't want to sell him. So I think Jumland would be the one to go for.

13:37He's a little bit older. I mean, the price profile of Belieber as well. People won't like me saying this, but there is a lot of similarities between the way Manchester United want to work and the way Chelsea work. You look at Sesco, 22. You look at Belieber, 22. All right, Cunha and Mbemo are both 25. They're slightly older, and maybe Chelsea wouldn't do that. But I think we are looking at still players under 26. and Belieber would be good. Bounty Hunter says, watched Sesco highlights, powerful striker, good stuff. Talk about Sesco in a minute. Feels good to feel like Amarim is being back, says Kiel.

14:14I don't know how the future looks, but for the first time in a long time, I'm looking forward to the new season, says Tristan. Yes and no. Yes and no. I think ultimately, if I was being real, we have bought two players and sold nobody. In a week's time, we probably still won't have bought them we'll have seska the season starts a week on sunday we bought two players and we sold nobody that's the that's the reality the also reality is we could have a 90 million pound midfielder and a 70 million striker coming in in the next few weeks so i understand your excitement but ultimately that there's still things that need to be done we will get in but i would have sold bruno says reflex d uh glenn c says what would worry me if we wait is the top four even if it looks like they don't need him they all seem to think nothing of accumulating super team says glenn see and i think this is a great point from glenn as well um i mentioned this last night whether it was by design or not going for belieba late in the window is a master stroke if you pull it off because liverpool chelsea man city and arsenal have spent all their money they haven't got the money to go and get belieba but i think like you say next summer they would and they might even go for him even though they don't need him in the first team because they're building super squads so yeah i agree i don't think you can wait till next season you've got to you've got to pounce now definitely um for believer it's about timing for any club this season united might be in a one horse race next season no chances exactly um fraz says i'm too sesco i'm now it's you made me a believer you made me and you made me a believer believer imagine Dragons.

15:54I can just hear the chants. I know it's very, very difficult, but is it the Imagine Dragons that people say the lead singer looks like me? Probably not anymore. I fell off a little bit, looks-wise, but there we go. I know it's very, very difficult, but should we be top at Christmas, would you start believing in the title? Thomas, I will let it go once. If you do it again, I will have to direct you off to talk shit or something like that, because that sort of rubbish we don't want on this channel. we do not want that type of rubbish on here um harry sinclair says i'd love to be top at christmas but it's not even in it's not even in my brain you know it's just it's you know we've got to be real and i'd be very very very happy with fit the place this season hi mark just a quick google callum chambers is playing for cardiff in league one and he's on 45 grand a week so yes his wages are low thank you harry sinclair it's brighton of course they want to sell says josh and hexo says Gigi, Amag, Dorgi, Yarrow, Delit, Heaven, Beliba, Bruno, Kunia, and Bermos, Seska.

16:55Let's go. He's picked a team. Hex. Same thing Brighton did with McAllister, says JR. Are you a Beliba, says Peter. Look, I was an early jumper onto Beliba. You know, that's the great thing about that football is we get to watch a lot of different games. And, you know, I've liked Beliba for a long time, and I think it was very obvious he was going to be the next Bissouma, Cacido. So, I mean, I'd almost be, you know what, I'd love to get a spy in at Brighton at the moment and go, if we sell Belieber, who are we going to go for? Can I have a look at the computer system? And they go, we're going for this player and then buy him instead.

17:32Can't excuse that wage for such a player as Chip? Would this be our greatest ever transfer windows as WEG? Mate, I'm not talking about it because it's got to, you discuss a transfer window at the end of the window. but I would say Kunia, Mbumo, Sesko, Belieber and a goalkeeper would be a very good transfer window. You've still got to look at prices and timings and et cetera, but it would be a very good window, yes. How Belieber fits with new signings, bench Mbumo, says Antonio. What? What? What? What's he talking about? What's he talking about? Belieber, bench is Mbumo. You do realise Mbumo is an attacker and Belieber is a midfielder.

18:14That's like saying, does Maguire bench Anana? Which he probably should, but yeah. Do you think we should look at Tosteggan, says Max? We aren't looking at Tosteggan at the moment. Whether we should look at Tosteggan or not, we'll have to see. Newcastle fans, coping has made my week. Our band Tahira has more silverware than their entire history. Levels to the game, says Huge. Thank you very much. Do you think Brighton would want Collier? Collier was already at Brighton, wasn't he? We got Collier from their youth system. I think he was the captain of their youth team or England. But Collier's got a lot of potential and, you know, Brighton might be a good fit for him.

18:49But I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, we're going to talk about outgoings in a moment. Could Edison still be a plan, says Alex? No. Oh, well, I mean, he could. I don't think Atalanta wants to sell. I'll be honest, like I do like Edison at Atalanta, but Belieber would be like, I think there's three midfielders that I would go really interesting. The Liga would be number one. Jormland would be number two. Wharton would be number three. They're really sort of plan A types of signings. I do like Edison, but, you know, Sevilla and systematically, I don't know. But we could look at that.

19:32We could do. The meltdown of many in the media because Sesco chose Man United over Newcastle is appalling. just shows how many have grown their careers by hating on United, as Michael speaks. Mate, we've got Man United fans who do that. You know, they're out. They're just waiting to go, you know. Alan says, do you think they're smokescreening another deal with this? No. And look, this is really, really important. Somebody said this last night, spin. It's spin. You know, everybody's in a positive mood about Sesco. The 58 are talking about protests. last time they spoke about protests or did a protest there was a new stadium pictures coming out from chat gbt protests come out we're going for believer that night so some people are saying spin they're saying look we're just going for a player we know brighton won't sell but it makes us look ambitious it makes us look like we're trying to do something and in a way i you know look obviously i can acknowledge the the source in the sense that if you want to believe man united to play in a game, and you want to spin a positive story, then it's a bit like giving a current player a new contract and saying it's a new signing.

20:38If I go to Brighton and say, we want Belieber and we're leaking it, and Brighton go, well, that's fine because he's not for sale, then you're in this situation where everyone's going, oh, we're serious, we're a proper football club again. But I genuinely think we are in for Belieber. So I don't think it's spin, but that's why I say if we can't get him we can't walk away from that and go we're not getting anyone because then people quite rightly will say it was bullshit it was spin I think that in going for Belieber you expose the fact that the midfield is not good enough you expose the facts that Amrim wants a midfielder and therefore you can't go into the season without one whether you can get Belieber or not so I think the proof will be in the pudding that we will get Belieber or we will go for somebody else which is what we have to do now so i don't think it's been no well without bruno we would have been relegated says luke thank you do you think jackson will go to newcastle says maliki i mean i don't think they deserve that but it could happen will sesco have a pre-season after we sign him same for the other players when we do get them eventually says p dog he's had a pre-season with leipzig he just didn't play their last game but he has had a pre-season and vermo didn't really have one so like he has had a pre-season it's a bit like delit and masrawi they did have a pre-season with Munich they just didn't join us until a couple of days before the first game of the season um but they won't have had a pre-season in the sense of getting used to the Amrind system which is a good point so you have to allow that it's um it's something the media and the haters won't do but if Sesco comes into the team he won't have had that weeks working with the team etc.

22:14Maneu Agate believer is the future sell Bruno and let Casemiro leave to bring down the wage bill says shane brighton has only sold players worth of 1.6 million this year maybe they might consider selling says z uh does doing for belieber mean bruno is not a shoo-in says tech well they have sold jow pedro z straight away i just i'm not a brighton fan but i literally just went they've sold jow pedro for 50 million so they have sold jow pedro how long before jim will replace players with ai says dawid rock welcome to the members club what if we loan them kone says Alfie. I mean, I'd do that. I'd do that.

22:48I'd loan them Kone and give them Collier. I mean, I don't know whether it brings the price down much at all, though, really. They're still going to want the money. We could include Maynou, says the two-pump. I don't think we're going to do that. This approach for Believer is high stakes on reputation for Vavelle, Wilcox and the board. The alternatives then have to be of a similar profile and quality, says Emily Derry. and Carlos says if we get rid of the so-called we've done that one okay right let me go back to the news uh Rohit says I think United will get Belieber because they know it's not an easy deal it's a single shot deal and we won't he won't be available next year other United otherwise United would not have approached I'm with you Rohit I really do think it will happen and I would add to that by saying if we don't do this deal now and in a year's time he goes to Liverpool and he's brilliant it's the stick that Ineos will be beat with and I hope they understand that it's a warning really if you don't do this deal now then you will be hit with it when it goes somewhere else and is really good and the reason for that is people will say you can't walk away from it because brighton want 80 million by actually and this is my point by approaching brighton publicly through ornstein you can't approach them and then go oh we didn't realize it was that much.

24:06They literally sell midfielders for 100 million. So for us to go into it, we know what we've got to pay. And I think it will be about getting it done. Wouldn't it be better to get a goalkeeper first before we get a midfielder? I get we need both, but shouldn't we prioritise a goalkeeper, says Fraz? Not really. We do need a goalkeeper, but if you've seen the midfield, it's a problem. And games are won and lost in the midfield. Are we losing focus on realistic midfield targets, says Tillak? And how is Lunan not the obvious choice for goalkeeper says david amas and collier for 60 million for belieber let's dream to zaki did we not get amas from brighton as well um martini says i have a feeling brighton anticipate big players will leave so they'll scout someone before they leave 100 100 they work really well martini right anyway we've spoken about believer i want to talk about shesko for a moment because that is still very much not done.

25:00And there was a very interesting update on Sesco that came in today from Florian Plettenberg, Pletigold. Listen to this. Showdown in Leipzig today. Newcastle, like Manchester United, still have representatives out on site in Leipzig ready to react in case Manchester United cannot reach an agreement with Leipzig. however the red devils are going all in especially because sesco is now clearly committed he wants to join manchester united personal terms are 100 agreed um fabrizio said this morning as well that um that today was hopefully going to be the day where manchester united can pick up the deal and get it over the line i mean look i'm not panicking um i'm not panicking and an interesting stats as well that came in from Jan Agafjortov.

25:53Christopher Bevel would complete a remarkable half-trick if he gets Sesko to Manchester United considering he took Sesko to Salzburg in 2019, he took him to Leipzig in 2023 and now he looks like taking him to Manchester United in 2025. So he's been involved in Sesko's last three deals, which is quite incredible really. But look, I genuinely think at some point today we will get here we go i mean i was hoping we're going to get it yesterday and we mustn't ever just say it's definitely going to happen today because as we know with these things sometimes official announcements can take bloody weeks remember baran and ericsson so it doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to get here we go today of course but what i would say is that I was hoping fly today, Carrington Medical tomorrow for the opening of Carrington.

26:53And then on the pitch, Fiorentina, here I am. As somebody quite rightly said yesterday, the third kick comes out on the 12th, which is next Tuesday. So they might put it back to that if we run out of a little bit of time. Look, ultimately, we might be jumping the gun a little bit because it is Manchester United and we haven't actually got a great track record for moving quickly on deals. So although we're close to doing a deal with Leipzig, let's not forget Leipzig have accepted Newcastle's deal and they'll want us to be close to that. So we're probably negotiating. And it will be, I think, the gap between Man United and Newcastle's bid is only a few million.

27:36It's like maybe two, three, four million. But we're negotiating on it. So it could still take a little bit of time. I mean, hopefully we're going to get it today at some point, but it could still take a bit of time. And United, look, if I was Ruben Amrim, I'd be saying, come on, like we're playing Arsenal a week on Sunday. I'd like to be starting him in that game. And every day we take from here makes it really difficult. I mean, if he can get a week of training, I can probably start him. You know, if he's training at Carrington on Monday, I can probably start him. but if he's not being unveiled until tuesday and his first training session's not till wednesday i probably can't start him so look maybe he can i don't know but look i'm not i'm not i'm the big thing is people are saying are you concerned about the newcastle representatives being there this would be the biggest fumble in you know since by you know i'm not gonna take the piss out of other people but it would be the biggest fumble since newcastle No, I think that it would be shocking if United didn't get Sesko now, considering he wants us, we want him, and we've just got to figure out a deal.

28:45We're not going to walk away. I don't actually know why Newcastle representatives would be there. I mean, that's the surprising thing for me. I just don't know why you would be there. It's surely a big, massive waste of time. But yeah, I think he will definitely end up staying where they are at the moment. Sorry, I think he'll end up coming to Manchester United. Ollie Phillips says, Mainu and Belieber could run our midfield for the next 10 years. Two eights that can drive with the ball and press the opposition high. Well, I hope you're right with that statement. I mean, I think there's a lot of people that need to be convinced about Mainu, myself included, but I do agree that would be the dream.

29:25We're waiting to buy Belieber with our Sesco club cards, says Sesco. Went quite after Mborme. Bruno linked to all Nazia. Then we suddenly pivot to Sesco and now Belieber. I think there's a pre-agreement next June, says Brendan Bennett. Well, I spoke about that last night. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if... Because Bruno really did think through that Saudi deal for two weeks. I mean, I know people say he rejected them. It was a slow rejection. He definitely, definitely thought it through. And I just wonder if he's going to go there next summer. And if we know he's going there next summer, there's a big, big, big load of money coming into the club, isn't there?

30:04Which you could almost spend in anticipation, especially if the agreement is that it gets done in June in this financial year. Technically, it's still not a perfect window. And I know we pay installments, but who here thought we would spend over 200 million before we sold a single player to Slazy? um but look you know we have we have we haven't sold anybody but technically we have saved 15 million in in wages for rashford um technically we've saved about god what what's 150 grand a week um 1.5 million we've saved about another 10 million in wages from lynn beloff and erickson so that's 25 million saved on top of that we've sacked a load of people um so just with just with Rashford and Lindelof and Ericsson going in the sackings you've probably got the install the first installment for Kunya and um and uh Mbemo so yeah if we think about installments we haven't sold anybody yet but we probably are covering off quite well and we're not we are we are in debt but for ffp purposes we're probably not that bad um martini says do you want agate or menu next to believe us is uh it'll be bruno mate i was quite i was quite taken aback by that it would definitely be bruno like uh it'll be bruno and believer i mean there's no doubt about that i don't see bruno fernandez not being next to him uh beans on toast says a genuine question how have united gone from being broke to splashing on sesco and believer sacking the tea ladies surely isn't the reason for this i think i sort of covered that there beans on toast when you when you're dealing in installments then um a 15 million saving on rashford's wage can be installment one on sesco so these things do help um it's definitely wobbing peter to pay paul there'll be things that we're saving money on here that we can use towards that but we'll be tight we will be tight and remember we had to pay 90 million pounds this year on installments for players we already own so renana mound rasmus uh you're only adding to that next year um and you know was it 40 million pounds we paid in debt interest as well so there's still a lot of money coming out of the clock people don't want to talk about it at the moment but uh there is knowing brighton they've already got done that one from phil houseby hoping to get a Belieber or keeper in across the line after Sesco.

32:38If you told me we'd be here before the start of the season, I would have taken this as Kieran. We finished the football world, convinced everyone we were broke and we're halfway through buying an army, says Ghost 92. I mean, we're not there yet. I like and appreciate the confidence and positivity, but we're not quite there yet, you know. So JK Worthing is excited for the season. Um... I choose, I don't want to use realism again, reality, pragmatism, because we've been down this road so many times before. I mean, was it Van Haal or Ten Haag lost his first two games? I think that the great thing about a transfer window that I like is that you don't play football, so you play fantasy football.

33:26You buy these players, you construct these 11s, and you start talking about winning the league. the season kicks off you lose to Fulham and Arsenal and everyone's hammering out so I'm you know experienced enough to know that just because you buy good players doesn't mean you start playing good football and we have got a very difficult start to the season so if you consider we've got Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool Arsenal in our first five games if we lose three out of our first five it doesn't matter who we've bought people won't be sitting there going oh we're We're having a madness. We're having a madness.

34:00So the reality is we've got very, very difficult starts to the season. And, you know, it's very, very unlikely that even if we get Stesco and Believer, that they'll start against Arsenal. So, you know, are we going to win that game, lose that game, whatever? So, yeah, I'm not here to start predicting we're going to have a good season because that's not probable. But what I am looking at is fifth. And if you finish fifth, you will lose some games, but hopefully will win enough to get into fifth and i think that's what we've got to look at um paul fisher says would selling bruno before the end of this financial year be viable to getting the believer deal over the line well we've spoken about that we're playing hypotheticals but it could luke henderson says jokeres first two games for arsenal he's been rated 3.2 i think amram knew he'd struggle in the premier league why would anyone want rid of bruno i'm confused luke um Luke, the Jokeres thing is just people hating on Arsenal.

34:56I mean, I don't like Arsenal. I'd rather they won the league than Liverpool or Man City, to be honest. But I don't, I don't, I sort of pity Arsenal and Jokeres in a sense, because it's very obvious that people want Arsenal and Jokeres to fail. I think he's a brilliant striker and I think he'll do really, really well. That's my opinion on it. So, yeah. um breaking newcastle put forward requests to epl to remove united from their name and go by tineside magpies proposal has been rejected by the league says dammy the club said they sold 50 000 tickets for saturday would be an added attraction to make it a sellout as glen c i'm surprised it's not a sellout actually last pre-season game first game at old trafford um you've got uh david de gea returning but look a lot of people are all day and stuff and you know it's not a proper game i suppose ollie phillips says may no and believe it's done that one from ollie right i just want to go back to the news uh because there is some stuff i want to talk about um specifically um the deal in relation to who was it who was it who was it oh the guardian The Guardian.

36:12So look, I think a lot of people are talking about incomings at the moment, but as per David Ornstein's update, outgoings are just as important. Certainly, we do need outgoings so that we can fund these deals. I'm a firm believer that you should buy before you sell, because in that sense, you are opening yourself up to the ability to be proactive rather than waiting. And we saw that last year. I think it was a mistake to wait to bring De Lytton-Mazraoui in until after we got rid of Wan-Bissaka and the same with Agate and McTominay. So I think that we should definitely be looking at buying players before we sell players, because that is fundamentally going to slow us down.

36:59And players will be going. And I think the two players I wanted to talk about this morning really was, well, there's an update from the Guardian saying that Chelsea are ready to now move in relation to Gennaccio. Very much the forgotten man, really, because we're more interested in the players that we've got and the players that we're trying to bring in. And quite rightly, Amarim's brilliance in banning these players from the US tour and pre-season means that there are no photos of them. There are no clips of them. They get no airspace. When they're asked about in pre-season press conferences, Amarim can quite rightly say, my answer is the same as it was weeks ago.

37:37they're not training with us so they basically had their oxygen starved and i think previous managers when you look at last season ten haag didn't want sancho sancho didn't want ten haag and yet he was on the u.s tour and it was a problem so i think that the way that um it's been handled by the club and amrim has been very very good because ganacho is sort of a boring topic isn't he i mean he's a talented player he's not going to be a man united player but we know he wants to go to Chelsea and we've known that for a long time and we know that Chelsea wants him but they want him cheap so it's become a dead story so even when I read it in the Guardian that Chelsea are prepared to now start talks with Manchester United for Ganaccio you sort of go well fair play you've ruined your summer you've ruined your pre-season you haven't had one and and you know you're low priority for Chelsea as well because they've gone and bought a load of other players before they've bought you so look Ganaccio and Chelsea probably will happen they're trying to drive the price down it'll be interesting to see what price we get that's the only thing i'm interested in there's talk of 50 million quid maybe it will be 50 million quid but maybe it may be 40 but the reality is chelsea are in the premier league chelsea have got money and i think the biggest thing with this is going to be the add-ons and the um sell-on clause.

39:00And I think if we get those, we'll be covered anyway. Jim says 50 million or no deal. I think that if we got 45, I still think that's a good deal. If we get 40 plus good add-ons and sell-on, you'd probably take it. But I can see us getting more than that and I just think I think look ultimately he's a pure profit player so if you get 40 if you get 50 really helps us in relation to the other stuff we're trying to do but on top of that he's got a very big mountain to climb there are certain Chelsea fans that don't want him I think there are players at Chelsea that are better than him I stand by the point that he's a talented player we can't lose really if he goes to Chelsea for 45 million and he flocks we've done okay if he goes to Chelsea for 45 million and he ends up being sold to Real Madrid and we've got to sell on clause we've done okay so I think as long as we cover ourselves the bottom line is how do you lose when nobody actually wants to keep him anymore like in January I was a very vocal person about keeping him I felt we shouldn't be selling players who are 20 years of age um and and and we shouldn't be about that but realistically nobody wants to keep him now so I think it's a I think it's a you know it's a win-win situation for Manchester United and I've got to say again the way that the club and Amrim have handled it is perfect and I hope that this is going to be the stance in the future because I get tired of the Carrington pictures of these players walking in with a smile and you're like why are you here and they've not been afforded that opportunity and I'm not saying they're listening to the United stand or they're listening to United fans but we were talking about this in June.

40:45We're only two weeks away from Rashford and Sancho and Ganacho walking in with their boots under their arms, smiling, getting photos. And they've just not been able to do it. They've had the oxygen cut. And I think that's why you get the interviews and the Instagram posts, because they're not used to that. They're not used to that. They've been pampered. They've been pampered. They've had the ability to use the Manchester United name, to use their socials to get stuff out there and um it's very very clever and it's long overdue and i think manchester united have finally grown a pair and actually started acting like a like a like a like a symbol of something like the club is bigger than the player and you know obviously you've got to give credit to the board and amarin for doing this but ultimately it's not really the board and amarin doing it it is but it's the club it's the name we're manchester united you're not gonna play us like a bloody fiddle anymore we're going to we're bigger than you it's manchester united on tour it's not the ganacho show it's not the sancho show it's manchester united and i think it's worked really really well um with regards to what we're going to talk about next um rasmus look rasmus's stance has always been that he wants to stay at manchester united and fight for his place and in many ways I wish that was the case because I think when you look at what we're trying to do in the midfield with Belieber and when you look at what we've done at the number 10 position I still don't know that I feel that Serksi is a good striker back up to Sesko and obviously Obi's very young so I want to finish fit so I think there's enough minutes for Sesko and Rasmus across the season because it's very rare that your striker will play 90 minutes every week in fact it can be quite dangerous I feel that financially United will be saying look there's a lot of interest in you and we can't give you game time so we think it's best that you move on and it feels like we're heading towards that personally I would rather have two strikers that are out and out strikers and I certainly think that as bad as Rasmus was last year and you have to acknowledge it he also would probably be a lot better in a team that's got Cunha and Mbremo behind him and a midfield that's got Belieber in it potentially and a better Dorgou and Ahmad down the right-hand side.

43:14I think there's going to be a lot more. I mean, I think Cesc is walking into a situation that's very, very exciting. But you've got to be realistic. I think there's enough noise around it now to suspect that, yeah, Rasmus could be on the move because of um because of you know what's happening and we do need to make money the interesting thing about rasmus is though ganacho has to go because that's 40 50 million pounds of pure profit that you can just go that's installment for sesco that's installment maybe for bleber perfect with rasmus you can't do that because he still has a book value of around 30 to 40 million quid so So you save the wage, but you don't necessarily get the money in.

44:00So it might not be that much money, if we're being completely honest. But look, I read the chat. There's a lot of people that really want Rasmus gone, and I understand that, but he's not going to start. Literally just had another update here coming in from Pete Hall in the iPaper. Another player outside the bomb squad who is now likely to leave is Rasmus. United could accept a bid as low as£30 million to allow him to leave. Yeah, I think we're heading towards the exit door with it. Xerxes seems to be valued within the squad and by Amirim. And I suppose logically I do understand it because if you've got Kunja and Bermot mount as your tens and Ahmad can play there and Bruno can play there, Xerxes probably doesn't get that much game time.

44:46But if Xerxes is the understudy to Sesko, he gets more game time. So I can see why Rasmus is going from a Man United point of view. Don't know whether Xerxe really is a striker, but in a United side, I'll drop this here. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that next season people are saying drop Cesco for Xerxe. And I don't mean that means Cesco's a bad player. It just means that Xerxe might do quite well and people will be like, maybe he should be up front. You just don't know how it's going to go. There's always a... Someone was on about this yesterday. day who do you think's going to be the player that sort of blows up and you never know with Xerxes like he's he is one of those players that I think is either going to be sold next summer or he's going to become a player that really becomes like a you know fan favorite so um yeah it'd be very very interesting but I do it I do expect Rasmus to go I wouldn't do it personally but I do expect him to go because I think he's going to want games and also there's a lot of interest in him you know it's not like it's not like some players that you'd love to go like an honor there's no interest at all like there is interest in him so i think we will move him on yeah 100 percent um okay uh let me just have a quick catch up on your thoughts uh when do you think we'll be going got ben jacobs on the show at two o 'clock today and i want you to be on that chat at two o 'clock giving ben some credits because he's had a bloody good week he mentioned sesco to man united in the middle of june and he mentioned believer to manchester united over a week ago so give ben his flowers on the two o 'clock show today uh luzy says remember this is brighton we are talking about they put pedro up for 100 million chelsea paid 50 plus add-ons and be changed good point losing it's amazing what a good transfer window can do to the morale of the club and the fans suddenly i'm excited for the new season let's go sesco says sahil rather by homelon uh african will take out belieber and on amad masraoui says seth uh trina says i make belieber that we wouldn't have gone in so publicly for belieber without some indication that we're getting in completely agree man united made around 154 crosses in the prem last season with bruno the highest crosser this has to change if we're to progress massively uh it's not enough is it uh michael adrian's a new member thank you very much five in the morning us can always count on you love that let us know where you're watching from and ashley says finally we do the smart things to try and sign Premier League proven players.

47:10Sir Alex did this most of the time. I mean, that's a great point as well, isn't it? It's another Premier League proven player in Belieber, which I think is margins. It's clever. I read that Kuna deal counts to last year as well, says Smoggy. Love the magic of opening day, says Sir J.K. Worthing. Thank you very much. Okay. Connor says, hope you're doing well. If we manage to get Belieber, does United have to win against Fulham, Burnley, Brentford and Sunderland to prevent riots if we lose against the big court? but we have to win against them anyway mate we i'll tell you now with our first five games of the season are arsenal uh lippel and burnley chelsea man city we won't lose all our games to man city chelsea and man city we'll win one of those games at least we're back at two we might be back before make sure you smash the like and subscribe i'll speak to you on the next one take care everyone