151: City WANT Baleba! Garnacho TERMS Agreed!

0:28Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. suits us we'll talk about that as well a few other bits that got into around the striker as well uh ben jacobs has put a tweet out could be at a cracker we'll talk about that lots to get into and as always do get oh god that'll be that'll be last night's chinese um ben jacobs has said that benjamin sesco well i'm look i wasn't going to talk about sesco massively this morning because um i think it's sort of getting to that point where i don't massively find it interesting with all due respect um he's also put in a something about Belieber so we'll talk about Belieber next but let me just talk about Sesco very very quickly um Carrington today he's there doing the medicals he's told me on Instagram and he is then going to be uh unveiled on the pitch tomorrow now United therefore probably will wait to do the official thing tomorrow maybe sort of like around kickoff that's what they've done before so Sesco's a manganite player it's just the process of the medicals which are probably happening right now on the pitch tomorrow and the quotes from Wilcox and Barada and Sesco will obviously come out as well so he is well on track to be a Manchester United player and well on track to be in for the Arsenal game a week on Sunday exciting stuff now let's talk about Belieber because Brighton's preference according to Ben Jacobs is to keep Belieber until at least summer 2026.

1:53Now, Brighton are a funny club. I know a couple of journalists actually that I would listen to in relation to Brighton and Brentford who you wouldn't normally listen to. I'm not saying Ben Jacobs is one of those. I mean, I think Ben's been very good this summer, but certainly Brighton are quite good in relation to what I would say the British press. They do speak to them. So, you know, it's not necessarily Romano and Ornstein that are going to lead on these. But Manchester United have made an inquiry via intermediaries and were not quoted a price. The Brighton hierarchy believer can be worth as much as Moises Casido one day, who the club sold to Chelsea for£115 million.

2:29So, look, that's not much of an update because it's coming in via Alex Crook, who works for Talk Sports, to be fair. So Ben Jacobs is quoting him. This is exactly what David Ornstein said two days ago. We've made an inquiry via intermediaries, and Brighton want to keep him from the other year. So there's nothing new there, other than they want a very, very big price for him. So I wouldn't say that that's anything new. I think what is new is the report that came out this morning from ESPN that Man City would be willing to join the race if Manchester United got into a position where they could sign Belieber.

3:03And I actually think there's probably something in that. Even though it's ESPN and people might go, it's not true. I just think he's such a good player that will alert other clubs. Um, and although Liverpool probably can't do anything this summer, and although Arsenal probably can't do anything this summer, Manchester City might be able to do something this summer. So even if we get to a point where we can move forward on Belieba, I wouldn't be surprised if Man City came in this summer. And I certainly think if we wait till next summer, it's going to get more and more difficult, which is why I think Man United have got to push it now.

3:37I don't think we will do this And I don't think we can do this So I don't think we can go Oh, we expressed an interest in Belieba That's enough to stop the protests, isn't it? Everybody's happy again now I don't think that will be enough And I don't think that's what United's angle is As I said, I've seen a couple of people going spin, spin You know, you pretend you want a midfielder That you know you can't get Just to keep everybody happy and stop protests, etc I mean, look The Glazers have been manipulative over the years but I genuinely don't think that's the plan from Sir Jim Radcliffe. I think the plan is to realise quickly, which they have, that they're falling further and further behind clubs that are ahead of us and spending a lot of money.

4:18So we also know that our midfield is not good enough and it's problematic. And it doesn't matter how good your front three is if you have a midfield that is going to get exploited. So I think we do want a midfielder and I think we have to go for Belieber. And if we don't get Belieber, we have to go somewhere else and say we're not getting Belieber. So this is why I've always said around Belieber that it's a bit of a fantasy, even though everybody wants it to happen. You know, everybody wants it to happen. We've been speaking about it for months. You've got ex-players talking about it in the last few weeks.

4:49He is the right signing for Manchester United, but it is tremendously difficult to do. And what worries me is that Brighton will say that you're not having him early at a cheaper price because we genuinely believe another year in a Brighton shirt, he will be another Casado. And I don't disagree with that. So how do you land on a price? And does it lure a Manchester City in as well? So I think it's I think it's very interesting how that will plan out. And my belief still is that we have sort of nailed that flag to the mast by actually going for him publicly. And I think that we will have to adhere to that.

5:29And I would hope that we have a plan that's not we can get him cheap. because if our plan was we'll give you 60 million pounds we were never going to get him the package has got to be 80 million now and see if they bite and if they don't bite at that do you walk away for the you know for 10 million or do you stick in the race um and maybe we do do things like collier maybe we do do things like you know um throw another player in i think we have to be creative here because it's a one shot somebody said it on the watch along on the watch along on the eight o 'clock show last night. This Belieber thing feels like it's one shot at it.

6:04I don't think we'll be, well, put it this way. I think we've got more chance of getting him now than we will next summer. Agree? Disagree? I think we've got more chance now than we will next summer because I don't know whether we'll be in the Champions League next year, but I know Liverpool will be. I know Arsenal will be. I know Man City will be. And I know Chelsea will be. And when you look at their midfields, there's already rumours of Rodri going to Man City Liverpool will probably want to bring in another midfielder next summer Arsenal, you know, might as well so I think it's now or never for Manchester United I mean look, I'm not saying that we can't get him next summer I think Ben Jacobs made a great point with Terry yesterday where he said that with Cesco Man United did try to get him last summer so you've already done a bit of the groundwork and you go back a year later and you show that you're willing but there's nothing next summer that's going to be better that's what I'm trying to say his price will have gone up if he has a good season and more clubs will be interested maybe Real Madrid I mean I don't know why we're so Premier League centric as well Real Madrid need midfielders as exactly says Ehi says why do we just think about the Prem Real Madrid need midfielders PSG need midfielders why would they not come in as well so I think that it's now or never for Manchester United and that's why I firmly believe that if we don't get Belieber, we have to go for somebody else.

7:29And somebody queried me on this yesterday in the chat and they said, I disagree. If we want Belieber, then we should wait till next summer. Well, my point is, that's fine. That's an opinion. That's absolutely fine. But my point is, if I say to you, like, I'm trying to think of analogy here. if I say to you that um you know I I can't think of one I've got really daisy head today this morning but basically if I say to you I really need something and I can't afford it do I just leave it or do I go and try and find something else and that's what I think Man United have done that they basically told the world we need a midfielder by moving for Belieber and if they can't get him the world is full of midfielders you can't just go that's the only one in the that we want we have to go and get something else because it's not a luxury it's a necessity in that midfield in my opinion um noah says pep would make him such a boring player to watch from what i've seen from him he's such an exciting player we can't let him go to city we need him says noah look in fairness this story has still got a lot of legs in it um it's either the strangest story ever whereby you get David Ornstein Fabrizio Romano saying that we're in for Belieber and then two days later now we're not he's too expensive I mean I don't know what purpose that serves or it is the start of something and I believe it's the start of something so let's let's see what happens with it I mean look I'm just thinking on my feet it it might be the start of something where you go we're in for Belieber hello sporting we're in for Belieber but if you do us a good price for Youngland, we'll do it now.

9:10Or hello, Crystal Palace, we're in for Belieber, but if you give us a good price for Wharton, we'll do it now. Now, those clubs might go piss off, we'd rather keep our players, but you don't know. If we wait to gamble next summer on Belieber, we'll either lose out or be in a bidding war where we pay close to 100 million anyway, so we may as well do it now, says Trina. Yes, and I am still very much subscribed to the Conspiracy Weekly that is that Bruno's going to Saudi next summer, and we already know that, and we already know that money is going to be coming in. So I still think that that might be a way that we can justify the funds even in the same financial year if we can sell Bruno in June.

9:49Can't we use Mayno as a make weight since he don't get in the squad, says Liam? I mean, look, pragmatically, you could do that. but I think at the end of the day

10:10you really are sort of look it's difficult for me because I want Maynard to stay I want him to be you know for me Manchester United is everything but it's also hugely important that you have players coming through like David Beckham and, you know, Maynou, et cetera, because that's what we're all about. And I look at the youth now, we're about to get rid of Ganacho, you know, Obi and Ganacho to a certain extent, a bought talent where Maynou has come through the youth properly. So I wouldn't want Maynou to go in different circumstances, Liam. I think you're right. Where does he fit into the team?

10:50Brighton would probably suit him like a glove playing weak. I mean, look, I think the way Liam's coming at it, and you have to be fair, is that if you did a deal with Brighton involving Mainu, Mainu would play every week for Brighton. And he would fulfill his talents in the next few weeks because he'd be playing every week. Is he going to play every week for Man United? No, he's not. But Man United don't want to sell him. Mainu doesn't want to go. Most Man United fans don't want him to go. But I do agree with Liam. I don't agree with Liam, but I do agree with what he's saying. like Manu at Brighton would play every week.

11:27He won't play every week at Man United. Richard, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much. Mohamed, thank you very much for your super chat. MMA Takedown says, I'm on hate watch when Ganaccio puts on the jersey. Well, we'll talk about, probably do Donnarumma next, then Ganaccio actually. Let's push him down the list a little bit because he's irrelevant. Actually, let's push him right down. I mean, I love this. I love the fact that we will talk about Ganaccio, but we'll talk about him when we're ready to talk about Garnaccio because there's far more important things to talk about. With the 1-1-5 charges and uncertainty about Pep in the long term, then factor United's size and history.

12:02It's biased, but United should be better prospects, is Marty. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't actually going to go there, but why not? I think if it's a straight race between Man City and Manchester United for Belieber, we win. And Man City fans are going to go, ow, ow, ow, ow. Yeah, get in line. Newcastle did that as well. Arsenal did it with Mbumo. You know, obviously you're in the Champions League. Obviously you've got a very, very good side. Obviously you've won loads of Premier League titles. Obviously you've got Pep Guardiola. But there's something about Man United this summer at the moment. And I think that Beliba would look at that and go, you know what, look at what happens to flair players at Manchester City.

12:41I mean, Matt Savio looked really good. Never uses him. Doku, sporadic. Grealish, ruined. Beliba is, as I said, able to tackle, he's able to pass. But the big thing about Beliba is his ability to get the ball and drive forward with it and take people on from the midfield. I mean, Pep's going to bloody hate that. Stop it, passing lanes, triangles. So I think that if City want to join the race for Beliba, let them in. But I'd still fancy us to win it. Wouldn't be as straightforward as the Newcastle one. Obviously, it'd be a lot harder. But I think we'd win that race. I really do. people would mock me for that, but I think there is something going on at the moment with United.

13:21Signing Belieber seems increasingly challenging, but this is our only chance. If we aren't able to sign him, we should at least sign another midfielder. And Jay, I have nothing more to say. You've covered it in a sentence. I don't need to say anything else because that's exactly it. We have to try. We have to try now. And if we don't get him, we have to go for something else. That's it. What we can't do is try not get him and go, oh, we tried. It's a one-shot lottery. I don't want us to go, we tried and we'll be back next year. No, we tried, we failed, we go for something else. And that's just what we're going to have to do.

13:54And for all those people like myself who really, really, really, really want Belieber, we'll just have to suck it up and go, look, we tried, we didn't get him, we have to get something else because that midfield cannot be the midfield. It's the difference between potentially getting fifth and potentially being eighth. That midfield ain't going to be good enough. It's not. Daniel Cunningham says, if Rasmus stays, what happens with Xerxes? Do we just keep him as a 10 or cash in as we have so many options ahead of him at 10 now? Daniel, I personally think that I haven't been told this, but I think Rasmus wants to stay and fight for his place, understanding that Sesko will be the number one.

14:31I think that's what I would like to see happen, but I don't think it is going to happen because I think you've absolutely nailed it. What happens with Xerxes? Like Xerxes is getting no minutes in this team at the moment. he has to be the support striker because if he's not that he's nothing so I think Rasmus will go and Xerxi will be the support striker because I can't see a place in the team for Xerxi yeah I mean yeah obviously sometimes he'll play in the number 10 position but when you've got Kunja and Bermot Mount Bruno Ahmad Xerxi will get a bit of time at number 10 but he won't get a lot of time most of his time is going to have to be off the bench for Sesco in the last sort of 20 minutes 30 minutes which is different but I think that's going to be the plan uh to be honest with you the Cunha deal was on the last year's financials says Frederick thank you very much why are we not in for Donnarumma that price is a steal says Bjorn okay let me talk to you about Donnarumma there is a story around Donnarumma I've heard so many people talking about Donnarumma I feel like we needed to just like summarize the situation as it is right now so effectively Donnarumma apparently according to L 'Equipe and other French sources is keen on a move this summer and doesn't see Manchester United as a no, even though we've got no Champions League football because of the prestige of the football club.

15:46Now, according to L 'Equipe, PSG have struck a deal to bring in Lille's Lucas Chevalier for a fee of£35 million. That's without bonuses. And they reckon that that deal is going to be done before they play Spurs next Wednesday in the Super Cup. So the feeling is that if you're spending£35 million on a goalkeeper, yes, the likes of PSG, Real Madrid can do that and use them as a sub goalkeeper. But I think the feeling is at PSG is that Donnarumma is not going to sign a new contract. So PSG have done exactly what I would want Manchester United to do. If we had a player that won't sign a new contract, who's a really important player, I'd buy a replacement and say, sign the contract or you're going on the bench.

16:26And I think that's basically the situation Donnarumma is in. Now, from what I've been reading over the last few months with Donnarumma, because you do have to do a little bit of digging, I think Donnarumma situation, agency and himself was I'm the best goalkeeper in the world. I've just won the Champions League and I'm going to be PSG's goalkeeper until next season when I'm a free agent and I'll assess my options. PSG have been very, very clever in the sense that they've gone, well, no, you can run your contract down, but we're not going to wait. We're going to bring a number one goalkeeper in now and we're going to say to you, sign the contract or go.

17:06And effectively, that's the situation. So I wasn't fully aware of all of this. I sort of guessed this was the case. But the reality is PSG have brought Chevlier in for number one. And they're saying to Donnarumma, sign the contract or leave. That's probably moved past that now. Because if he signs the new contract now, they've got Chevlier. So basically, PSG are like, we've got a new number one. You can stay and run your contract down. Or you can find a club, but you're not going to play. So Donnarumma is now in a position where the tables have turned slightly because he's sort of got to find a club or he's got to sit on his arse for a year.

17:46So does that mean he's more likely to come to Manchester United? No, not necessarily, because obviously players that want to run their contracts down want big paydays and big signing on fees and big agent fees. And I don't know what the situation is with Mino Riola's agency now, because obviously Mino Riola is no longer with us. Paul Pogba, Erling Haaland, Donnarumma, Zlatan were all part of that stable. Look at Haaland. Huge amounts of money went away from Dortmund into the pockets of other people when he moved from Man City because he had a release clause. so the thing about Donnarumma is even though PSG are looking to move him out and even though Donnarumma might be willing to come to Manchester United it's gonna cost ridiculous money so personally I think Donnarumma may be heading to Saudi because that's probably the place where we can get big money and it's high profile I don't see how we can do this deal because it's going to come down to finances and we absolutely won't and i absolutely agree give him 300 grand a week because we would be morons we did that with the hair and you i mean i love the hair but we really shouldn't have been giving him 300 grand a week i mean i love the hair i can't wait to see him at old track of tomorrow but we did pay stupid money so yeah we can't do that could we loan him says David?

19:20I mean, I would loan him, but I suppose what's the point? Because in a year's time, he's going to leave and you haven't got a goalkeeper. Having said that, a year with Donnarumma over a year with Inanna is still better, isn't it? So I would do the loan deal. I don't think there'd be any future protection for us though, if that makes any sense. So that is the situation with Donnarumma that I think many of us just needed to know that, didn't we? Because a lot of people are saying, can we get Donnarumma? Can we get Donnarumma? And as I just said, well, he is available, but financially it would be ridiculous.

19:57Signing Beliebussi, I've done that from Jay. Thank you, Jay. We need the Hotameter back. Transfers are getting exciting for once, Steve. Yeah, we can bring that back. I've seen a few people say Mbermo, Sesco and Cunha all turn down Champions League football for better wages at United, implying they lack character, ambition and our soulless mercenaries what's your thoughts on that says trap jaw um none of their wages are massively different to what they would have earned at arsenal or newcastle in the case of embermo and sesco um uh kunya i don't even know if he had another offer i don't know that anybody else went for kunya because it was a release clause uh there's rumors that that newcastle did but we're not paying stupid wages for any of those players um so the the wages that were on offer from others other clubs would not have been massively different yeah haters are gonna hate need to decide unbeliever now if not who's plan b says jack um i i would like younglin from sporting edison from atlanta possibly wharton at palace one of those three would be an improvement on what we have if we get 50 million for ganacho we have to be able to bid at least 80 for belieber surely but we probably won't get over 40 for ganacho says shane b if city are genuine in for him it's actually good this will prompt united to move fast if we do not get in we could move on to a new player soon just shawnick excellent after show yesterday mark i'm still a bit confused about the football law in the uk and what exists can you give a quick explanation says rajaf quick explanation is it's been going on since the 1960s that you can't watch uh uk games on tv between I think it's two o 'clock and five o 'clock on a Saturday afternoon or half past two or something like that this is a rule from the 60s that was done so that if you couldn't watch Man United because they were playing away you might go and watch Oldham or Stockport and support your you know provide support to younger clubs other smaller clubs which probably did used to happen in the 60s but in 2025 the rule doesn't make any sense because if Arsenal are playing Bournemouth and only a thousand UK Arsenal fans can get a ticket, the rest of the hundreds of thousands of Arsenal fans aren't going to go and watch Leighton Orient.

22:07They're going to use a dodgy stick and watch it. So it's just a completely and utterly ridiculous rule. I hope you're having a great day. What is your prediction? Will we get Belieber? Says Hake. Get straight in there, Hake. I like it. I like those sort of direct questions. You know I do. Do I think we'll get Belieber? I am sort of around 50-50 on it, to be honest. but if you want me to give a definitive because I don't like sitting on the fence yes I do I think in all the transfers I've seen over the years you get used to paths and I think what we've got here is the public declaration that we want the player and then the club that owns the player their public declaration that they want big money the next step is probably the player wants to leave and that both parties are negotiating a fee.

23:04So I think that a deal will happen, yes, is my stance at the moment. Look at Izak and Liverpool. It hasn't happened yet. Liverpool have publicly declared their interest. Newcastle have said he's not for sale. He's not for sale. He's not for sale. He's not for sale. And then we hear that Izak wants to leave. It still hasn't happened yet, but Newcastle will still get a good fee. it's not like Isaac is on strike yet but I think it will happen if we wait to gamble next summer on Belieber we'll either lose out or in a bidding walk done that one from Trina thank you very much for that right we need Belieber now or someone similar because we still have got another midfielder next summer when Casemiro or Bruno goes says Michael do you feel that we have a strong enough first 11 and a good bench or will we be weak if we get one or two injuries says Frederick I mean I think this is the sort of stuff we're going to start talking about on the eight o 'clock shows over the next sort of week as we move into the Premier League season.

23:59I think that we are not, and I've said this a few times, especially on the tour, injury FC still exists. Xerxi hasn't had a pre-season. Maz Raui's missed quite a lot. We know about Inanna. I wouldn't be surprised if De Litts got an injury as well. I think that injuries are going to be a very big problem, not just because our fitness department isn't up to it, but also because we've got a lot of players that pick up injuries. Like if you're an injury prone player, you don't just press a button and stop being injury prone. Unfortunately, we have quite a large collection of players that are capable of picking up knocks and being out for three weeks, four weeks.

24:35So I think that's always going to be a problem for us. Hopefully the newer players won't be like that and we can start to filter out those problems. But look, let's be clear. We've got four of the top four in our first eight games. It's the start of the season so you would hope a lot of your players will be fit but if you go into like that Liverpool game which I think is game eight and um I can't remember whether it's at Old Trafford or Anfield you go into that game and for whatever reason um Sesko is not available and Cunha is not available then suddenly that team is very similar to last year and that is how fragile I think it could be Cunha was on 120k a week at Wolves so not a big increase as Zet I'm traveling to Manchester today for the Fiorentina games is Andy priced out of competitive games but my kids seven and nine uh seven year old and nine month old get their first visit lovely stuff Andy what about a loan to buy for Donnarumma says Riley and does Sesco start against Arsenal says Christopher Fletcher um I think there's a chance I mean you'll have a full week of training so I don't subscribe to the view that you need to have played a pre-season game to start a Premier League game I mean if he has a week full of training then why not 26 million for donnarumma would be the best deal of the summer i can't believe no one is in for him he must be after big wages absolutely sean turner when do you think the ganacho deal will be done says hey keep i'm going to do that now and uh klaus says we won't sign a midfielder but casemiro is going to have his best season with us only one game a week and proper rest training in between sorry i'll leave it at that um 105 million that can get us two very good midfielders i believe we should be looking at that scenario mount's injury prone bruno might leave next summer casemiro is not in the plans leaves us with only menu and agate says mojo uh and if brighton want one more year why not loan menu and cash for believer so brighton have a replacement now then in 12 months bruno leaves menu comes back with a year of regular games under his belt damn i like it mark if we're only interested in young talent why are we going for Douay or Jamal?

26:41Okay. Welcome to Lembers Club, pal. Get Belieber and Ineos transfer madness suddenly feels like Ocean's Eleven, except with footballers and slightly worse suits, says Robski. We can't be already fed up with the Belieber story. It's like we inflict this on ourselves. Also, Xerxes will come into his own this season. Definitely keep him, so simply read. But where will he come into his own? I like that statement, but where will he come into his own? Where are you putting Xerxes in that team? That's my question. It's the same with Mainu. Xerxes is going to come into his own this season where are you going to put him in CJ Smith thank you very much but like seriously where are you going to put him in because he isn't going to play in the midfield because he's not a midfielder um you've got Kunya and Mbremo and Ahmad and well Bruno and Mount who can play as the 10 um and Sesko's just been bought in as the striker so where's he going to come into his own I mean if he does it will be sensational but I think obviously off the bench he's going to be an impact player definitely and you do need a bench King solomon's right um and and it says the fans will fume if we don't get belieber now and harvey says since inios came we didn't give anyone the salary of over 200 grand a week says harvey um i don't know what delitz salary is i don't want to get um 195 grand a week so you're right reportedly reportedly 195 crown a week um oh oh listen to this john victor john or john victor was awaiting at rio airport to travel to london for his medical with the deal agreed between both him and west ham uh only for west ham to pull out at the 11th hour the way west west ham have conducted themselves in all this is disgraceful says a source wow so uh that's an interesting one um Um, also coming in from Italy, AC Milan and Man United have almost reached an agreement for Rasmus Hoyland for a 5 million loan plus the option to buy 40 million all in euros.

28:39The deal could reach up to 50 million euros with bonuses. Uh, so there, I mean, I don't want that deal to happen. Uh, I know a lot of people do. I don't want that deal to happen and I certainly don't get the point in loaning. I don't get the point in loaning. No Man United fan trusts loans to buy as a good deal anymore either so I don't really understand why we're loaning. I'd rather keep. If we're only going to earn 5 million and cover his wages, I'd rather keep because what if something goes wrong with Sesco? It's just we're weakening our team to earn pennies um if it's a permanent deal i get it but a loan deal i i just rather keep we need two strikers like garfield says i don't i don't know why we've weakened ourselves just for but it will be financial if i'm being honest it'll be about even if it is five million the club will be like well there's the wages as well we can save 10 million here and that might be a down payment on another player so i know why they're doing it but it's just a little bit frustrating that we're willing to be light up front and yet we're stacked at centre-back.

29:54I'd like to be stacked up front, to be honest. A few players need to find a place. Competition is good, but if those unlikely to get a chance don't step up, they should move on, says John United. What would your starting XI be without Belie versus Nigel?

30:14well my starting 11 well I've got to put an honour in goal I'd go Ahmad and Dorgou as the wingbacks I'd go Yoro Masraoui and De Litt as the centre-backs I'd have to go Bruno even though I don't like him in the midfield I have to get him in somewhere I'd probably play Agate over Manu and Casemiro, obviously Cunyren and Bermot, and then Cesc out front. There's still weaknesses in that team, though. I mean, you know, I start off on a negative because I've got to put an honouring goal. I don't really want to put Bruno in the midfield. So there's two areas in that team, really, midfield and goalkeeper, that concern me.

30:51Fieran, thank you very much for gifting a membership. That Casemiro chat made me laugh. He gets run past even in training, says Michael, speaks yeah casemiro still retains a cult following in this fan base i mean i like casemiro but look the reality is the reality i saw him do a tackle on the u.s tour and i think it was the game against bournemouth um and it was um it was so late he actually tackled a west ham player um it it was like he just his game over the last 18 months has slowed down um one of the best holding midfielders i've seen in the game over the last decade but he has slowed down and he ain't going to be able to deal with that and it's not a coincidence that he played well in the europa league and struggled in the prem the premier league is quick and he doesn't do well in the prem but he did do well in the in the european league at europa league because it's a bit slow um so if we were in europe i think casemiro would be a useful player but in premier league i just think he's too slow um especially in the midfield too i mean i'm not saying i'm not talking about system but if he was in a midfield three at least he's got two other people to help him out and in a two he gets even worse there terry says that delit is okay he has been training that's good news i hadn't had that update um mma takedowns if bruno goes next season i'd love to see the letters captain also i hope mcguire brexit tackles ganacho next season and um that's from mma takedown tuanza says if not donnarumma what goalkeeper would you be realistic well i still think we're going i still think we're going for lamenz as i said at the start of the week i was told that once ses goes out the way we'll go on to the goalkeeper now this belieber story has dropped does that mean we're still going to stick to one deal at a time and beat and stick to that or are we actually gonna go for the goalkeeper i mean biinder needs to go i don't know why he's still here i mean biinder's been a an absolute waste of time um he was brought in by ten hog as the as the goal i mean you i mean look when anon is in goal you need a backup goalkeeper that pushes him and biinder's even worse so the goalkeeping situation does need to be resolved i'm hoping that there's something in our back pocket that makes sense like maybe emmy martinez after he served his ban or something like or testegen or something like that i'm hoping there is a there is something there because we did approach villa about emmy martinez but it's looking more and more unlikely but i'm hoping there's just something um there's something brewing really uh maybe maybe it is donaruma i don't know um right let me talk to you about ganacho because we've left him late enough and i've purposely done that so that um there is a realization that actually we don't massively care about this player we care about ganacho about as much as chelsea do really i mean it's like i'm sitting i'm sitting here waiting for chelsea yeah i'm sitting ganacho's like the person on holiday right who it's a week long week long holiday yeah and on the last night you get invited out with the lads that's ganacho and he sat there all week telling everyone I'm going out with the lads on Friday night and you're like yeah they were out last night they're out the night before they're on holiday they're just you might be going out with them but you're not the priority you're going out on the last night you know they're there you know and this is what I mean about Chelsea Gittins and Esteval and Pedro and all the players they fought and he sat there like he's the dog's bollocks all Chelsea Chelsea they've left you till the they've left you till last night you're that much of a priority they've left you till last.

34:36The season starts in a week. They're not desperate to get you in, are they? I think Gannaccio just ticks a box for Chelsea. I think he's another player that they look at and they go, he's under 22. He's reasonably cheap. He's got potential. Let's bring him in. Let's see how he does. And if he doesn't do that well, we'll sell him to Lyon for 40 million and get our money back. that's exactly how I think Chelsea are looking at Ganaccio like they've done with other players I don't think they even value him as much as Maduaki and look at what happened with him I think he is just another player that ticks all the boxes that's probably got salon value and if he ends up being brilliant like Cole Palmer great and that's the Chelsea policy and you can't argue with it they buy a lot of players that are talented and if they work out great and if they don't work out we'll get our money back and and that's why i think ganacho is just such a low priority for chelsea obviously there's a lot of chelsea fans that don't want him hopefully he will grow up there for their sake but um apparently according to fabrizio romano this morning anyway the personal terms have been agreed with ganacho he only wants chelsea and uh the negotiations will start now um chelsea have been told by manchester united that a cash deal is the only option they're not interested in any swap deals as well which i think is very very important but according to fabrizio the personal terms have been agreed with ganacho and it's now about negotiations i mean look um i think i've seen people say you know what don't let him go you know don't let the little twat go i mean which is a bit horrible but do let him go i think i think that not letting him go is bitter not letting him go is like we're bothered and I just think look let him think he is whatever he thinks he is let him jog on let him go to Chelsea with the points approved against Man United let him get on social media next year which he will do to I'll tell you now, right?

36:49I'll give you this for free. I'll give you this for free. And if I'm wrong on this, I'll be very surprised. He will go to Chelsea and Chelsea fans will be unsure about him. He will kiss the badge the first opportunity he gets. And he will behave like a knobhead to other clubs, probably Man United to curry favour with Chelsea fans very, very quickly. Because one thing he is is very social media aware so he will become loved by Chelsea fans very quickly by acting up for Chelsea fans and that will be kissing badges and doing things that is pro Chelsea and negative towards anybody else probably at the expense of Manchester United and I'll tell you that now before it happens and I think we all know that's going to happen so the stance of Man United It's got to be knowing he's going to do all that.

37:41Do we actually care? Because if we care, it's like we're making a mistake. We are doing this because we want rid of him. So I don't care if he goes to Chelsea. I don't care if he starts kissing the badge. I don't care. Like we've got to move on. And honestly, I think there is a really talented player there that has ruined his opportunity at Man United. but that's up to him. We will move on. Better players than him have left Manchester United and we've moved on. He's certainly not David Beckham or Cristiano Ronaldo. You could argue he's not even Anthony Alanga, but that might be a bit harsh. The point is we just need to cut loose and let him go.

38:25And ideally he would be playing in another league, but if he's going to play for a team that's higher up the league than us and playing the Champions League and everything, and if he starts you know constantly being about proving us wrong as a Chelsea fan I'd be like we've basically got a United reject that can't deal being rejected by Man United and if that's going to live in his head let it live in his head because I think it will I think for us we've got to look at it and go would you rather have kept Ganaccio and not gotten Bermel or Cunha and the answer is no I didn't want Ganaccio to go but I think that the behavior and what's gone on over the last few months hasn't been great but also also if I'm being completely honest I always used to let him off for this because he's young but it doesn't change the fact he doesn't pass he doesn't pass and he shoots from everywhere and his shot's not even that good so at least with Kunja and Mbermo you've got two 25 year olds who are Premier League proven with loads of goals and assists So I just think sometimes you need to take out the emotion and go Okay, he's going to go to chelsea.

39:36He's going to go up yours. He's going to kiss their badge on all that but the real question is You in life you don't get to break up with somebody and then they can't go out with anyone else You might break up with someone for very good reasons a couple of years later. You're on holiday You see them walk past, you know, they're trim And they're looking good and then they're looking happy with someone and you look over and you go So it's human nature. You might go, oh, but then you look at what you've got and you should be going, well, I backed my decision. So you can't stop other people going off and doing things for themselves.

40:08That's absolutely fine. You just got to look at what you've got and go, I made the right choice. And Burmo and Cunha or Ganacho and Rashford, we made the right choice. As of today, in a year's time, look at what happened with Scott McTominay. But as of today, we made the right choice. and I'm not interested in the dragging it out or causing him problems. He's missed his pre-season. He's an idiot. He's done personal terms with Chelsea. Fine. We just need to get money out of Chelsea, not a swap deal. And if it's 40 million plus 20 in add-ons, do it. If it's 50 million plus 10 in add-ons, do it. If there's a salon fee in there, do it.

40:51And as Amir says, in Amerim we trust. And I think that ultimately has to be what it's about. So I think there's a level of maturity in this fan base now around what we're doing. And we don't need to be bitter. I think there will be people who are going to be booing him and stuff like that. I think that's, you know, completely understandable. but I also think that you know it's not like we're losing him and we haven't got anybody else we're bringing in players that are good and look I like Ganacho well I did as a player I do like him but if he was still at the football club answer me this do you think this season Ganacho was suddenly going to start playing like Embermo and Kunja and scoring loads of goals and creating loads of goals.

41:46No, he still would have been a work in progress. He's still a learner driver. So that's an aspect that people don't want to talk about as well. All right, his attitude might have been bad. All right, he needs to go. All right, you know, we've got better players in. But also, starting this season with Kunja or Mbamo or Ganacho, those two players are Premier League proven. He is still a learner driver for the next two years so even from that point of view if he was here he'd be on the bench anyway so this is the right decision um it's the wrong decision if you don't buy cunyre and imbermo we're weakening our attack but with them here it's the right decision it's the right decision and chelsea chelsea's path is not ours either so if he goes to chelsea and they win the champions league well fair fucks for getting a move to chelsea um because chelsea's trajectory is different to ours anyway um we're trying to be chelsea and and actually to be blunt we're not our chances of closing the gap on chelsea are better with cunyre and imbermo than they are with ganacho and that's the mic drop and he might not like that but we all know it's true we've got a better chance of catching the top four with Cunha and Mbermo than we have with Ganacho next season and it is that simple I feel like people forget that we used to sit here each round and complaining that he doesn't pass 40 million plus sell-on is reasonable would you pay 50 million pounds for him so Slazy on his price I'd take 40 plus add-ons because I think that that's the price if we can get a little bit more and I think we might fine but nothing below 40 but my reason for that is that there are people like Jao Pedro Alanga and and everybody else who's gone for between 50 and 65 if you conclude Mbamo and Ganacho should be in that category but he isn't because of the behavior of the club and him since the end of the season it was a public fallout and you have to deduct something from that so um that's why we can't really ask for 55 or 60 because yes you could look at a langer going to newcastle and say there are similarities but ultimately you know we all know what's happened he's been on and we also know that he's banned so he's not even training with the team is he so we you know this depreciates the value and that's why you've got to lock in uh you know end of the day you've got to knock in um sell-ons and uh add-ons peter prefer xerxi as a backup says boffman my problem with xerxi as a backup striker is if you take sesco off and you bring xerxi on they're very different whereas if you take sesco off and you put rasmus on he plays on the last man um xerxi's more technical but look some people do that you know you man city sometimes would take harland off and bring alvarez on very different strikers so you know there's not a problem with that i think that's the way we're going to go anyway boff man i'm 12 minutes behind here's how zirksi fits in bench option to replace sesco as a famino-esque false nine when chasing the game receiving the ball to feet and bermot kunya amad running in behind yeah i think you're probably right to be so could psg let donarima but the problem is to be so if sesco gets injured and is out for three months you've got to play with a false nine striker for three months that's why i'd keep rasmus because if you've got zirksi and Rasmus you can play two different ways if Sesco's not available whereas if Sesco's not available you've got to change how you play that's why I would keep Rasmus because he offers a different way of playing um and it's not about the last I mean I find it incredible but people talk about oh last 20 minutes we could have a false nine like Firmino what about for three months over Christmas when Sesco's broke his leg or something like that that's when you've got to play with Xerxi every minute of every game and that's when Xerxi doesn't play well you've got to use a 17 year old so could PSG let Donnarumma go on loan for the remainder of his contract and we cover his wages and give a huge sign on fee next summer says JK I don't know I don't know I feel we've got something in our back pocket when it comes to goalkeepers but I'll have to just we'll have to just wait and see Ganacho's price should be the same as Mount's price non-negotiable offer a cheaper deal to a European club, his choice to accept or write in the reserves.

46:08The trouble with some of our players this summer, and this is why it's good riddance, is that Rashford was like, I'm only going to Barcelona. Even if somebody will offer you money, I'm only going to Barcelona. I'm only going to Barcelona. And that fucked us a bit. Anthony, even though people are offering us money, I'm only going to Betis. I'm only going to bettis and he knows bettis can't afford him and ganacho i'm only going to chelsea i'm only going to chelsea so this is why you need to get rid of these players because their behavior types are horrific for the football club and they basically sat there like spoiled children and gone i'm only going here i'm only going here and fucked us so that is why ganacho is going to Chelsea that is why Anthony I mean look this the ridiculous thing for me is when it comes to Anthony I always praised him I was like you know look at Anthony went on loan to Beth came Amram came in Amram didn't fancy him goes on loan to Betis does really well boosts his value you know has the best loan of everybody and you think you know what he will want to be in the Brazil squad he'll have a move in June.

47:18And here we are in August. He's the last with Sancho. I'm stunned by Anthony. I thought he was a bit misunderstood. I thought some of the criticism had been a bit unfair. I thought he'd had a renaissance. I thought he just wanted to play football. And here he is, no pre-season, sat on his arse, trying to force another loan move to Betis when we've been paying him 200 grand a week for three years mate you signed a contract with man united we're not here for it to be a fucking charity so you can go to bettis again on loan um he's behaved badly people don't want to hear it but he has behaved badly because again it's just all about what he wants and we're paying him 200 grand a week at the moment people wonder why these players are happy to sit on their ass and miss pre-season because they're on fucking good money that's why

48:16um sal says ganacho and tevez are like two sides of the same coin the difference being that tevez in a man united sure actually was fucking brilliant to be fair absolutely brilliant um just in an honor to west ham i'll buy his ticket i wish that was true damien i really do seth says i love the new attack even the other teams are nervous now however with that shitty keeper if we get conceded morale will drop in the game it's gonna be i'm very excited about the start to the season. Belieber is paid very little, which means you can buy out his contract less than 5 million, definitely less than 80 million.

48:48Be creative and be ruthless as Rian. If Martinez gets another long-term injury this season, I fear for his career. Different conversation, Kraus, but you're not wrong. Right. I'm going to go. Two o 'clock today, Beth's back. She's back from the tour. She's had a few days off. She's ready to go. She's raring to go. She's missed again. again another here we go she's basically people say i need to go out you just need to ask me when beth's on annual leave because she always misses here we goes um but she's back at two o 'clock and um we have the eight o 'clock show it's friday night tonight as well so thank you everybody as per usual well over 20 000 watching again make sure you subscribe to the channel get your comments in if you didn't watch live because there's a lot in there and uh we should go for belieber in January.

49:33No, Benjamin, you're wrong. We need somebody now. It's now or never. We've got to get a midfielder in because in January we'll be mid-table if we don't get a midfielder in. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you all in a bit.