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0:00Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United transfer news. And we've got three big stories to talk about right off the cuff today, as well as a raft of other things involving Rasmus, Antony, Sancho and a hell of a lot more. But it's probably the biggest news drop morning we've had in a long time. So significant updates around Beliba, around Ganacho and also around. Donnarumma as well probably not the update we would like around Donnarumma effectively um the issue we have is Anana which we'll talk about this uh basically David Ornstein's dropped a big article this morning through The Athletic Fabrizio has been very active as well and there's a few other bits but mainly um I suppose the most significant place to start is that Fabrizio Romano in the last couple of minutes has just retweeted this and we know what a Fabrizio romano retweet means it means uh you know basically he's had more information that this is actually correct so manchester united plan for new talks for belieber in the upcoming dates manchester united believe belieber is keen on the move contacts follow on brighton side as deal remains very difficult but united will try so effectively we are going to get into these talks with um belieber um through brighton over the next few days and i i'm still a firm believer that that one will happen however a more significant update overnight is that we are moving closer and closer to a 50 million pound deal for ganache with chelsea um i think last night on the eight o 'clock show you know when you're listening to comments about ganache saying you know he will sit on his ass for 12 months if he doesn't get a move to chelsea you sort of feel like this could get quite elongated but over the last few hours and overnight we've had updates again from fabrizio Romano saying that Ganaccio Chelsea is actually moving very very quickly and talks are now taking place between Manchester United and Chelsea for a fee which I think is quite positive because I think it's really important that although Ganaccio doesn't seem to have respect for anybody anymore to do with Manchester United Chelsea and Manchester United do actually retain quite a good working relationship um as is evidenced over the years we've taken people like Matic obviously Mason Mount there are people you know I mean Sir Jim Radcliffe has or has had a season ticket there so he did try to buy them so I think there is a good relationship between Chelsea and Manchester United and whilst Di Naccio is obviously willing to fall out with everybody I'm not so sure that Chelsea are um they are so good in the transfer market because people buy their players and they by other people's players.

2:44And to do that, you've got to have good relations. So it's interesting that that is moving quicker than we probably thought it might do last night. And the price being spoken around is around 50 million quid. Now, I think if Manchester United can achieve 50 million pounds for Canacho, it will be absolutely fantastic. I feel that there will be a bit of wiggle room there. I don't think it's going to go lower than 40, but obviously I think if United can clear 40, 45 million pounds now and build in some add-ons and sell-on fee, I think that would be a good deal. So it doesn't look like this£30 million nonsense is anything to do with it.

3:22Interesting story coming in about Anthony this morning, which we will talk about in a moment or two as well. Someone says Mark's back in the toilet. I've told you for the next few weeks, my morning show is predominantly going to be in this room. Evening show will be in the studio. building work is still going to go on if you know anything about building work it takes time so uh yes we are backing here but um we've got all the news and that's all that matters i i want to talk about donnarumma next as well because there's so much stanley says what's your thoughts on the new third kit it's as good as i thought uh i mean i'm not i don't want to spend any time promoting man united football kits because you get into trouble for that but um i'd seen the the concept of it a few weeks ago i'm not one that really likes kits but i it just makes me think of shark view cam canton are kicking the crystal palace palace fan um and and better times it's a lovely kit it's a lovely it's a shame we only when you release a kit like that it's a shame you only get to wear it for a year because for me we should wear that for the next 10 years that should be the away kit for the next 10 years and i remember the days when when you used to get an away kit for two years um it's a shame actually because it's uh it's a lovely kit um beth's actually bantered me already because apparently there's a female one that's like a crop top and she said how much to wear it and i said i'll do i've got i've got a six pack um i went down saying it was the other day and bought some but um yeah it's um it's looking good uh i don't know what's going on but i'm sure we've got some moderators um yeah well done well done um bit bit weird this morning but thank you very much savage but i've had to delete a couple already as well i don't know i don't know what he is toxic sunday into toxic tuesday you're on the wrong channel we're actually we're quite chill here we're gonna sign belieber i said we'd sign sesco we hopefully we're gonna get a goalkeeper we're chill we're starting the season on on the weekend i don't know what you're talking about with your negativity and your toxicity i think you're on the wrong channel i think we all know who that who does that um anyway back to what i was talking about crop top bridge um yeah the it looks nice i want to talk about donnarumma because there is a very interesting article that's come out today from the um athletic the uh predominantly the most respectable journalist when it comes to uh transfer news david ornstein um now effectively there's some quite interesting bits in there about rasmus there's some other bits about other players as well but i think the most significant update in there was not actually from david ornstein because basically they just do this drop on the athletic every now and again it's called transfer drop and all their journalists give all the updates on all the clubs whether it's man united newcastle etc so basically what david ornstein is saying is that manchester united several united players have been in contact with belieber regarding a transfer to discuss the current situation and the club's ambitions i actually think that's a bit over the top um i don't know what your thoughts are.

6:20I mean, to me, it's a bit like winning team photos. I don't think Inanna or Mbemo or Yoro contacting Belieber to join Man United really makes that much difference. You know, I really don't think it does. It's a little bit like saying to your mate, I think you should go out with Margot Robbie. Like it's Brighton,£12 ,500 a week, or it's Manchester United,£150 ,000 a week. he's going to want to do that so when i keep seeing united players are trying to get belieber to come and join the club he's had millions of people in his replies on instagram telling him to do that like that that's not going to be the thing the thing is going to be the price with brighton and we all know that but interestingly um it also says that belieber is keen on the possibility of moving to manchester united personal terms would not be a problem uh and that is from david ornstein as well but the big thing i wanted to talk about was um was donnarumma now let me go back to okay so this is this is what laurie whitwell puts in that article he says united stance on a goalkeeper is that a signing could only happen if banana departs and there are no signs of that happening at the present um a move for donnarumma is not expected to materialize so it's funny really isn't it because i think time and time again this summer beyond ornstein and Romano, we've had a few accounts on X trying to join in the transfer stuff.

7:52I mean, I literally saw one who was massively wrong about Mbermo again at the weekend saying that we're in contact with Donnarumma and it had like 600 ,000 interactions. It's not true. And it's not my place to call those people out because I'm sure they're probably good people, but you are spreading false narratives. And we're not in talks with Donnarumma. We're just not. It's a possibility, but it's not a reality. And it's like Belieber before we actually held the talks. I mean, it'd be a great signing for Man United, and we do need a midfielder. But until David Ornstein said that we were holding talks with his representatives, then we're not in talks with Belieber, and we're not in talks with Donnarumma.

8:38And yet over the weekend, you've got people who are apparently in the know saying to people, we're in talks. Talks have begun with Donnarumma and they actually haven't. We've not held any talks with Donnarumma as of 10 o 'clock on Tuesday morning. Now, it's only yesterday that PSG have left him out, but we're not talking to him because we can't talk to him because we're about to offload a huge amount of money on Belieber and Donnarumma is a huge amount of money. We approached Villa to loan Emi Martinez. For whatever reason, we don't have a budget for a goalkeeper. And it probably is everything to do with that update that Laurie Whitwell has put out that Man United, sadly, cannot get a goalkeeper while Andre Anana is here and he won't go.

9:28And that really is quite concerning. And maybe it puts a pin in my theory that we're waiting towards the end of the window to do something like an Emi Martinez or a Donnarumma. But right here, right now, we're not doing anything with the goalkeeper because we've still got the Inder and Anana and that's what we're going to go into the season with, which is, you know, it's very, very disappointing. I still believe we will buy a goalkeeper because I cannot believe that we will go into the season with Anana and Bayinda. I mean, I think that's a massive, massive mistake on the part of the board. Ruben Amrim, Jason Wilcox, um and favel i think that's a huge huge error um you know it's like it's like building a formula one car to win the monaco grand prix and then not buying any fuel you're not going anywhere it doesn't matter how good your driver is doesn't matter how good your engine is doesn't matter how good your bloody aerodynamics are doesn't matter how fast the car is if it doesn't have any fuel in it it won't win the race and I you know I'm not going to panic about it because I've said to you many times Man United will sign a goalkeeper and it's a new world it is a new world because normally I would panic but um I'm not going to panic because whilst I respect the update from Laurie Whitwell and I think it's the one that certainly has been fed out from the club for a long time and certainly Laurie Whitwell would be one of those people that would be fed by the club the club stance clearly is that we're not buying a goalkeeper why Andre Inanna is here however we've also known since March that Amorim wants to replace Inanna and so does other people as well so I think that we will see a goalkeeper come in unfortunately we may need to prepare for the fact that it won't be a Donnarumma it won't be an Emi Martinez because it will be a replacement for Beinder that maybe is Lomens to push out Anana in the longer term.

11:29We will bring a goalkeeper in, though, because it would be akin to footballing jumping off a cliff, really. You can't not do anything about it. But look, JR says maybe we could loan Donnarumma with an option to buy. I'm not going to sit here and say we're not going to get Donnarumma. I think the important thing to remember is that in a transfer window, when you look at June, we weren't in for the Lever. When you look at June, we weren't in for Sesco. We were still flirting around the prospect of a Yocarez or an Ozyman or an Eketike. So you can't definitively say no. Like I said, there was people like talk shit linking us to Semenyu from March and April.

12:12We were never, ever in for Semenyu. It was a fact. But I did say, that doesn't mean in July, in August, we won't go towards Semenyu. So Donnarumma, right here, right now, we're not doing anything about it. doesn't mean in tomorrow we won't doesn't mean that next week we won't but when people put it out there that we're in talks with players and we're not that's when it causes issues because you end up getting the backlash um donnarum is not available for manchester united at the moment with the goalkeeping situation that we have um and look before we move on what i will say about an honor is they want him gone they want to replace him they know he's not all that for some reason he has power at the football club and the only power he's got is I want to stay now it's different to somebody like a Casemiro or a Rasmus because Amrim has other options he can bench Rasmus he can bench Casemiro and he can say look you can hang around if you want but I'm not going to give you that many minutes but with Inanna he has to pick him so Inanna is in a completely exclusive position where unfortunately United are not willing to spend on a goalkeeper whilst and Arna is here.

13:23Now, I think they need to change that because as we've seen with Ganacho and Rashford and Sancho, when you put pressure on these players, they have to go. And I think they will. I think they will. Seriously, I do. Somebody, Dara just said Romano literally just said we are in for Donnarumma. Well, look, mate, as I said, things can change. I'm reacting to what the story is, but we're definitely not in transfer talks with Donnarumma at the moment. and it's literally just dropped from an article with David Ornstein that, and I'll read it back to you again, United's stance on goalkeepers is that a signing can only happen if Inanna departs.

14:04A move for Donnarumma is not expected to materialise. So believe what you want. Romano's very good. And if Romano has said that, maybe he knows something. But also Romano is very close and has always been very close to the agency that was formerly Mena Riola's. So look, remember, some people say that sometimes some of these journalists do agents bidding and Man United being in for Donnarumma is never a bad thing, is it? We're not in for Donnarumma, according to that article that David Ornstein and Laurie Whitwell wrote. If Fabrizio says we are, you've got to choose one. I would say if I'm Donnarumma and I'm his agent, I'm saying Man United are in for me because it helps your brand.

14:49it helps you know your your exposure um i've always felt we won't get donnarumma as much as i think he's an amazing goalkeeper i've always felt that we won't do that um i feel like that's a bit you know a bit too much of a dream it'd be stunning as i said but look let's see how it's uh let's see how it pans out but ultimately if an honor had been sold then we would probably be in a much better situation but as things stand at the moment um highly unlikely to happen well i wouldn't say highly unlikely but not expected to materialize um interestingly in that same article by the way i mean i'm sort of deviating all over the place here uh because there's a few bits i want to get into um newcastle are one of the clubs taking a look at a potential deal to sign rasmus hoyland now ac milan is one thing newcastle in the champions league i mean i'd quite fancy that i've got to be honest i'm not saying it's an upgrade but i'm got to say if man united were wanting to sell me and newcastle were willing to play me i think that would be the sort of move that you might start looking at and going um i quite fancy that now I don't know the validity of it.

16:08And obviously, Newcastle might feel a bit depressed about that. I, and I think some of you, do believe that there's a good player in Rasmus. And obviously, we've got Cesc now. I'd like him to stay as the backup striker, certainly more than bloody bringing someone like Calvert-Lewin in. But the thing is, I think with the Premier League, the good thing about selling to the Premier League is that you're going to get a lot more money than you're going to get from an Italian club or a Spanish club. So if we did do a Rasmus deal with Newcastle and maybe it was a loan and he did do well, we're going to get a hell of a lot more money out of this in the future.

16:47And also for him, Champions League football, Premier League football, you know, it'd be quite, I'll tell you what, if you want to watch, I'd watch that with interest. It'd be, you know, sort of like a player leaving that you wish well, whereas with certain others, we probably don't. so keep an eye on that one um i don't think newcastle will do it to be honest with you but it was interesting that it was uh in there um um that interesting all right let me just there's a few comments coming in here and i just want to get them in because i realize i whizzed through a few bits there emily derry said things can change very quickly in the transfer window however given the expense going on belieber donnarumma would be difficult emily i think you're absolutely spot on as you are many many times i think that um it would be ridiculous to sit here and say we're not signing donnarumma i just think as of this morning it's highly unrealistic because we haven't removed the goalkeeper and i said to you at the weekend you know you can talk about an honor he's very stubborn he believes that he can turn it around obviously he's a nice guy and he's well liked i mean to turn it around he needs to learn goalkeeping again it's um it's basically like a reset i don't think he can but one other thing we miss is that biinder should have fucked off i'm sorry to swear but he you know if he'd gone we could bring lamenz in so it's not just about an honor not being willing to go even if biinder went you could bring in lamenz and straight away go well at least we've got someone who might push him out so it's not just an honor it's binder as well it's this double shit goalkeeping couple that are cock blocking in a sense our ability to bring in a goalkeeper so um it isn't just an honor you could remove binder and bring in a decent backup to push an honor out but at the moment we're stuck on both levels and and i i think that's equally a conversation so as much as i would like Inanna to go and be replaced.

18:54I also think it's unfair to keep going, oh, Inanna, Inanna, Inanna. There is a backup goalkeeper that is completely never going to be good enough who needs to go as well. I don't know how we've got into this situation. And remember, both of these are Ten Hag signings. These are nothing to do with Amirim. He's basically hands tied on this. And it annoys me because I'm not taking a pop at Barada or Sir Jim or the Glazers or anything at all. It just annoys me that we've got two goalkeepers that weren't bought by this manager. It's such an important position. We're starting the season and if against Fulham, Arsenal, Burnley, Man City, Chelsea, we get a goalkeeping error, the shit hits the fan and it's the manager that gets held accountable.

19:37And that's my issue. It's like it's such an open goal, literally, that this is a problem. And it's just not going to work. It will not work in the sense that we'll hit the end of the season and go, well we didn't need a goalkeeper after all we all know at some point it's going to cost us i mean look people say that in his first season he cost us champions league football he did he was in his first six months of the club but can you afford to gamble on that sort of stuff i don't think you can dylan says i hope the family's well and the premier league is back this weekend can't bloody wait and you're my inspiration and i love this community cheers dylan this is tea by the way hope you're doing well uh indy kayla taking the piss with vinnie jr man city talks also incredibly exciting for the opening weekend united versus arsenal is going to be special says rajaf indy kayla needs to be very careful you know they've had a couple of good ones but you know nobody can post with the frequency of what they're posting at so you know i still am dubious about that although they've had a couple of good ones maybe we could loan donnarumma with option to buy says jr hoyland doesn't want to go but he's forced out why can't we force an honor doesn't make sense to me says rooney uh bradders says i've got my driving test tomorrow wish me luck good luck with that bradders uh mike says yes but mark you also said we would get the lap yokeres we didn't lose respect for you for getting those wrong so don't get others doing the same says mike um mike i mean look i don't know how educated you are but you're you're not listening to what I'm saying.

21:10The information on De Lapp was spot on. He was the priority. We didn't get him. I never said we were signing him. I said he was the priority and Man United were confident that we were going to get him. The morning after the Champions League final, the Europa League final, I said Garnaccio was 100 % leaving. Romano added three hours later. I told you there's going to be behind the closed doors game this week. No one had it until yesterday. I told you on Saturday. Jocares we were in talks for and it got very close. I thought we would do it. We didn't. But the information was good, but we're not in talks with Donnarumma.

21:43So that's not the same information, is it? Embermo deal was done three weeks before it actually did get done and people were putting that out. What I'm saying is don't put out information that's not accurate. We were in for Dilap. We were in for Yoccares. We're not in talks with Donnarumma on Friday or Saturday or whenever it was put out. That's my point everybody can get stuff wrong of course they can transfers are you know very very very fragile but when people put out we're in talks with this player and we're not that's a little bit different and also i never sit and sit here and say i'm telling you this i always say where it's coming from and ultimately i don't think there is ever going to be a source that's 100 % correct i really really don't because things can change um so i disagree with you mike to be honest and you know me i will own it if i think it's fair but i don't agree with that at no point would i sit here and say we're in talks for a player that i know we're not in talks for like i wouldn't do it because it's bullshit i've got a feeling we aren't going to sign anyone else this window i hope i'm wrong well sean you are the voice of reason but on this case i think you're talking shit um we will be signed i think we'll sign two more players i still think we'll get a goalkeeper um can i just clarify that's not because i'm telling you we're in talks with a goalkeeper i think we'll get a goalkeeper i'm confident we'll get belieber though i really am i think that everything indicates that that will happen all the sources all the stories all the momentum all the progression i'm telling you now that belieber story is moving and if for whatever reason because i've never said it's 100 i've said i think we will get him i'm confident we will get him i haven't said we will um that's a theory based on evidence if we don't get him i think we will pivot and get something else because i think it's united have literally exposed themselves that they need a midfielder and it won't be just believer they will have a backup who that backup is going to be crystal calisant in europe that could be wharton yulman has played for our amram at sporting so i think we will move on if we don't get one but i'm absolutely confident that we will buy somebody mate if we don't buy another player this transfer window is shit that doesn't mean sesco and burmo and kunya are shit but as a transfer window it's not it would be a five at best sesco cunyren and burmo and it would would not be a good transfer window they're good players but it wouldn't be a good transfer window and i think we'll end up with a debatably good transfer window i'm surprised costa hasn't moved despite it being common knowledge he's ready to leave i think we'll see lamens this summer and costa next as james i think we costa is just priced out by porto um yeah i think it's a lot of money and also the goalkeeping market's not that good which is why last night when we heard that PSG had left Donnarumma out a lot of us were getting excited because we're basically going there is no goalkeeper market what the reason the intriguing thing about Donnarumma and why I think some people have you know jumped in and you know guessed that were in talks with him is because where does he go PSG have just frozen him out so where does he go Chelsea have tried to get Mignon but they didn't want to pay 25 million so they're not going to want to pay Donnarumma's fee.

25:09And we probably can't afford it either, but we both love him. So does he lower his expectations? Where we're at with Donnarumma at the moment, and I don't need Fabrizio to tell me this, Donnarumma has literally just found out that he can't play for PSG. So you go to market and you go, I'm leaving now. But when you go to market, you go, I'm the best goalkeeper in the world. I want 250K a week and PSG want 25 million. and I want a signing on fee. And Chelsea and Man United go, it's August. We've already spent our budget and we've got other things that we're doing. We want Belieber, Chelsea want Ganaccio and Simons.

25:50So they would say to Donnarumma, we can't negotiate because we haven't got the money for it. So unless you're going to say, you're going to lower your wage expectations or PSG are going to loan him to us, we're not interested. And that's where we're at at the moment. Emily Derry nailed it. It can change, but neither is or Chelsea are involved in talks for Donnarumma because we cannot afford the 25 million PSG want and the wages and signing on fee and agent fee that they will want. But the flip side is the goalkeeping market's crap. Apart from Saudi, who's going to do it? Now, the thing about Donnarumma is I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Saudi.

26:31I really wouldn't. And they would love him there. that's exactly the sort of thing that Saudi want they want the best players in the world there and they will pay for them so what's the one place he can go that will give him the money he wants and probably won't impact his Italian place so Saudi's probably the best option at the moment unless he massively lowers his financial expectations because Man United would want Bonnarumma and so would Chelsea but financially we can't do the deal at the moment and neither can they because it doesn't work for us um at this moment in time that could change over the next couple of weeks i can't think of another european club that is going to be looking at a goalkeeper of that quality and have the money to do it um i'm surprised with 50 i thought we'd get shafted 50 plus would help belieber worried about donna prima wages make feel it's unlikely he might be loaned to us as sk the understanding is with chelsea and romano was talking about this is that Man United and Chelsea are in talks around the fee and they are amicable talks at the moment so reading between the lines on that United 150 Chelsea want to play closer to 35 you meet somewhere in the middle but it doesn't sound like Chelsea have gone we're going to pay you 30 we're going to wait till the end of the window and then Ganaccio is going to go on strike if you don't do it so as I said Ganaccio is an immature person and he's shown that Man United Chelsea aren't.

27:59Chelsea have a good relationship with many clubs and they have a good relationship with Man United. I don't think Chelsea are going to walk into negotiations with United and say it's 30 or nothing. So let's see how it goes. Jason says, bit off topic, but I'm honestly surprised we never went for or showed interest in Anasho sporting. I'm very surprised that we've not gone for a sporting player. But that's a lie. We did want Kenda and he went to Chelsea. We did want Jocarez and he went to Arsenal. so in a way amory might have said there's only two players i want from sporting and we didn't get them um because you are down to option three now because he did want jokeres and kenda but look there was talk of a trincao there was talk of a gonzalvez there was talk of a yulmland there was talk of an acho um diamonde um i'm surprised we haven't got one because his system is so are unique and they know it but there might be in the future first time super chat forgot to write a message says aiden well you've had a shout out aiden let thoughts go out to aiden team on says amrim told costa that he's the keeper he wants his contract ends in 27 maybe we're waiting for the next window and getting a cheaper goalkeeper for now says team on that's the balancing act isn't it you know real madrid are very good at this saying to players we'll get you in a year or two but when you're real madrid you know you're going to be first or second and you know deep in the Champions League at Man United, it's very difficult to say, we'll wait for you because, you know, you lose your first three games of the season and you're not there to wait for them, you're gone.

29:31Edward V has gifted five memberships. You're a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you very much, Edward. Appreciate that. Off topic, hope you and your wife plus the kids have a lovely summer and being healthy and well. Greetings from sunny Vienna. What a lovely message from Christian. Right back at you, Christian, to you and your family. Thank you very much. Joskian says, I hope Whitwell is wrong and we go for Donnarumma to push Anana out. But when you know that Belieber is coming, it doesn't make sense to get rid of Cameron Player before getting another one in, says Jossigan. Look, in relation to Laurie Whitwell, who is very much like James Ducker or Simon Stone or Chris Wheeler, these are journalists that follow Man United round home and away.

30:12They're in every press conference. They are journalists that get information from the club. Look, they're not transfer experts. So I would hazard a guess that Laurie Whitwell's been told by the club that a Donnarumma deal is unlikely. That's what I mean sometimes about client journalism. You take the information and you put it out there, but you don't know why Man United are putting it out there. So Man United at the moment might be putting it out there that they're not in for Donnarumma to get the message out that they're not going to pay what he wants. So they're not in for him. That then goes public.

30:46donnarumma hears about it and goes man you know i don't in for me they can't afford me so then they go let's lower our expectations so sometimes the laurie whitwells of this world and the james duckers they take the information from the club they put it out they might be doing the job the club's bidding you know they might not even realize that so you know in two weeks time if we sign donnarumma it doesn't mean laurie whitwell is clueless it just means as of the time of writing that article, he's been given that information. And the ulterior motive behind that information could be to drive the price down on Donnarumma.

31:22It could be because we're not going to go for Donnarumma. We'll just have to wait and see. But nothing is over in this transfer window until the transfer window closes. And as you know, in the last couple of days, stuff that's not, if a transfer window is 90 days, for 88 days, you cannot be doing a deal. And then on day 89, you can suddenly be doing it um i've been here since the sancho 90 clubs as lb clips uh just want to say your commitment to united stand is a match classed as always thank you very much for being here mate really appreciate that um and jack milner says he's a complete idiot he's only hurting himself with recent behavior don't think he's talking about me um who's who do you think he's talking about i mean a hazard i guess you're talking about ganacho but from one potential idiot to another there was an interesting story this morning i wanted to talk about uh involving anthony now it's coming in from spanish outlets abc de sevilla which i think is spanish um yeah tis spanish so they're saying that manchester united are demanding that anthony accept one of the transfer offers he has this week with the threat of leaving him on the sidelines till january Man United do not want Anthony to hold out until the end of the window in his push to move to Bettis.

32:39United are aware of the Bettis strategy and are looking to thwart it by pressuring Anthony to make a decision now. Now look, Anthony's a different one, isn't he? Because when you look at Anthony, I've never had a problem with Anthony. I thought he was mistreated by the press very early on when he did the fidget spinner i think strangely the xenophobia in certain elements of our media rose to the surface and they couldn't hide it it was like a stunning reaction to a bit of skill um and i felt that he was ridiculed and hated by certain people because of that and i think that's unfair just on a passport having said that i don't think he adjusted to premier league football very well.

33:26And I think Amrim made the right choice. And from that choice in January, Anthony made the right choice going to Betis and proved that you can be a good footballer who struggles in the Premier League. And I thought his loan deal was commendable. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. And I thought that out of him and Sancho and Ganacho and Rashford, he came out of it with real credit. And I've got to say, I've been stunned by the fact that I really did think he would come back and instantly get a move in June and be in a club pre-season, raring to go. I'm really surprised by how he's sat on his arse and done nothing.

34:12I really, really, really am. And it just goes to show you what I was saying yesterday about what goes on between here. because on the pitch sometimes they do stuff that you think oh they're intelligent and then you you see actions off the pitch that make you go well i just don't get it and the thing about anthony is correct me if i'm wrong i think he did get back into the i mean he wasn't in the brazil squad pretty much from the minute he signed for man united and i think at bettis he got back into the brazil squad didn't he so i don't understand it's probably the best bit of evidence we could ever use that we've got three players that could play in the world cup next year for their country and are jeopardizing it by having no pre-season i can't get my head around that because if you love football and you want to play football surely you want to play for your country in a world cup but no they'd rather sit on their ass to help out the club that they want to go to so in the case of Anthony Betis can't afford him we paid 80 million pounds for you and gave you 200 grand a week and you are basically sat on your ass trying to hold us to ransom so you can go to Betis who can't afford you make it make sense like whatever you think about Man United they have they've paid you a lot of money mate and you are under contract and I find it incredible that you're sat on your ass not doing pre-season refusing other offers so that you can go back to Betis, who can't afford you.

35:44And you want us to pay you your wages as well, because that's the deal. Betis can't afford him, and they also can't afford his wages. So what he wants to do is go on loan to Betis and us to pay half his wages. And I'm sort of like, if your name was Jadon Sancho, the fan base would be going mad. It's only because Anthony is quite likable to a lot of people in the fan base that were sort of like forgiving it. But it is crazy. like bettis can't afford you and we need to pay you wages you've done your bettis loan the bettis loan was to get you a better move there are offers on the table take them so hopefully we can solve this because it will be a real kick in the nuts to united if he ends up going to bettis on loan and we pay half his wages again because it almost makes you think well what was the point in the one that he did before um i understand that he probably likes it in bettis and he probably likes the club he likes the fans he likes the lifestyle but you know if they can't afford you mate they can't afford you you know it's like having a test drive in a ferrari and you can't afford it like you've got to give it back and bettis are going to have to give him back but um it's it's an odd one it is an odd one and at least rashford got that barcelona move quite quickly at least ganacho and chelsea are now in talks but the bettis one apparently is they're just sat there going we'll wait till the end of the window and he's just won't he won't do anything else so it's it's interesting in that sense but look it's united isn't it um have i spoken about that have i spoken about this uh oh no this is the update from the athletic on belieber um manchester united are continuing to explore whether a move for brighton and hove albion midfielder carlos beleber can be agreed this summer the talks taking place with intermediaries on united behalf have so far been to assess his willingness to join and salarate, which we know.

37:36Brighton do not intend to sell him, preferring to keep him, and have not indicated a price so far. But United are determined to reshape Manchester United's midfield and Amerim's squad as much as possible in his first summer transfer window, and adding a top-level No. 6 has been central to the club's plans. He's not a No. 6! I don't know why the Athletic keep talking about him as a No. 6. He's not a No. 6. It's going to cause a lot of people's problems who don't watch the Labour. He's not a No. 6. he'll play in a midfield too but he's not a number six you you know number six you stay number six and people think rodrigue carrick sit in front of the back four dictate the play you're gonna lose so much of the labour's qualities if you play him like that but also we don't play with a six we're gonna play with two eights um and i think he'll work really well in our system but um we don't we don't play a six we don't play a holding midfielder we don't do that even you know i think people think we do i think they think when we play agate and bruno agate sits he doesn't he goes bombing forward as well casimiro goes forward um we're not really playing i think people need to understand in amarin system the midfield two they're not gonna sit unless we're parking the bus against somebody they're gonna press it's the it's the back three one of them's got to become a midfielder that's what amarin wants to happen and that's why list andre martinez is going to be so important if he can get fit because he will just step into the midfield and yoro does it a little bit as well but the labor is not going to sit there at man united for 100 million pounds we're getting he's going to be all over the place intensity that's what we're looking for um but look you know i'm spitting feathers at something that's just a misquote really um aiden heaven is great at it too says vladder thank you very much uh okay um let me just get back in here because there was something else i wanted to discuss this morning um just a direct quote from fabrizio and ganacho as well chelsea and man united are now actively in talks to reach an agreement for ganacho chelsea except to accelerate and they're already accelerating we're entering the final stages of the ganacho story very soon for chelsea so that is very very significant um that is a very very significant a significant bit of quote i expect chelsea to accelerate they're already accelerating and we're entering the final stages ganacho story very soon this is really positive and it flies in the face of ganacho's behavior because to be fair to Chelsea, the respect for Chelsea in the transfer market, whether we like it or not, is huge.

40:20For years and years and years, like it's been going on for 20 years, they can sell high and they can buy what they want. And the reason for that is because reputationally, they've got a great reputation. We might not like Chelsea. As fans, we might not like Chelsea. But as Manchester United's crap negotiations have always preceded us for the last decade. Chelsea's reputation in the transfer market is excellent. And this is really encouraging because, as I said last night, it felt like Ganaccio was acting a twat again, saying, I'll sit in the reserves for a year if you don't let me go. That's not necessarily Chelsea's stance.

40:58And I mean, look, that update from Fabrizio is huge, that we're entering the final stages. Well, it's August the 12th. The end of the window is not for another 21 days or 20 days, three weeks so final stages is not three weeks this is this is moving very very quickly it feels like with chelsea simmons jabby simmons has gone behind ganacho where i think last week it felt like he was ahead of him so good news good news um final stages and as i said that price is meant to be around 50 million pounds i don't know whether that's package or initial i feel we're probably going to get 40 45 up front and add-ons taking it maybe as much as 60 um which i'd be okay with um i've said this before that you know you can look at alanga going to newcastle for 55 you can look at um pedro going to from brighton to chelsea for 50 um kenya 62 but the issue is there none of those players were walking around in a villa shirt in mallorca um none of them you know were having a public spat with the manager so we have lost value in ganacho um i think in january we could have asked for 60 uh i think right here right now you've got to take some off so um i'd you know i'd be comfortable with anything over 40 at this stage because it's pure profit really as long as we build in add-ons and sell on fees sax says there was always a do we need this player feeling in previous transfer windows now it's different all the targets are the ones we get on points good point set very good point yeah i think i mean we've bought three players and every single one of them well i don't know whether we i think the order that we've done it has probably posed a question i don't know that we needed two number tens before we needed a goalkeeper and a midfielder but i think at the conclusion of the window if you've got a goalkeeper a striker a midfielder and two number tens you're very very happy but the order of the wind the order of signings never makes sense there's reasons for that how would sesko belieber and donnarumma affect ffp as i think we would struggle to sign in birma and come at uh not i mean apparently not i wouldn't worry about ffp or psr apparently it's all been a bit of a red herring Rizik says trust you well still keeping good on your promise to run shirtless in your back garden after the sesco transfer I'm all for belay but I didn't say that about sesco that's bullshit Rizik I said I'd go down that side slide um the the the hoodie was if we signed Osman and the topless was if we signed Jokerez no I didn't say sesco I was always very relaxed about sesco I always thought we'd get him Jack B says your analogy about a tuxedo yesterday was the best if you didn't see it just very very quickly so if man united don't sign a goalkeeper this season and go into the season with anana and biinder i basically said it's like buying the best bow tie the best tuxedo shirt the best waistcoat the best jacket the best shoes looking absolutely brilliant and then walking out to the big main event and realizing you've got no pants or trousers on and that's what you know you leave your you leave yourself literally exposed with an open goal at the back um and that to me is what we're doing if we don't buy a goalkeeper yes we've got lovely shoes we've got a lovely bow tie we've got a lovely waistcoat but we're exposed at the back and that you know jokes or not i think it's a fair point aftcon is going to be a big problem for us as Kenzo.

44:41I think people talk about the AFCON like it. You know what? I don't want to diminish this, but I hear people do this every year. Liverpool are going to lose it in the AFCON because no Mo Salah, no Mane. Other clubs, oh, it's going to fall apart. And it never does. It never does because it all depends on the fixtures you've got. I mean, sometimes in January, you only play two league games because of the FA Cup. And those two league games could be a home game against Fulham and an away game against Burnley. So I think people go over the top with it. And like it doesn't impact everybody else. And like everybody else might not be tired or have injuries.

45:19Look, Mbemo, you can use Xerxi or Mount. Ahmad, you could use Deleu. Masraoui, you can use Maguire, Deleu, Yoro. Baleba, well, that's the position we're in now. You've got Agate, Meynou, Bruno. know and it's only for a few weeks so we'll be fine we'll be absolutely fine we have got a few players but i think we'll be absolutely fine i mean obviously after the event if we are you know if we lose every single game you might talk about it but i don't think it's a i'd almost say to people well what do you want to do we're trying to sell a nana anyway so that's one masrawi i mean he gets injured quite a lot we play without him um Ahmad missed half the season last year in the year before with injury so I'll take him missing a month with the AFCON as long as he's fit around it uh and Belaber we haven't even bought yet so what are you saying we shouldn't buy Belaber because he might miss a month with the AFCON so um Robert McCormack says he's odds on to go to City now who who Robert you can't just say that I just got from back from May 2026 4th and FA Cup it's a Saint Blanco he's from the future Saint Blanco he says we're going to finish 4th and win the FA Cup Jokere's only wanted Arsenal since April says Joseph

46:46and you can buy bread at Tesco are we just doing statements of the obvious don't know why that's got to do with anything. Doesn't mean that Man United weren't interested in him. Doesn't mean that Man United didn't like him. Also, if Arsenal had bought Sesko, he couldn't have gone to Arsenal. So United were in for him, mate. If we structure Bolaber over three to five years, sell Anthony and Ganaccio, then get Donnarumma. If we make an approach for him, do you think that's good? Nathan, Donnarumma talks are not taking place. Donnarumma is unrealistic today. You've just described the situation where in two weeks' time, there might be talks.

47:21But Labour needs to be the priority. He will revolutionise our midfield, says Jeremy. Donnarumma would be nice, but Labour is a must. A goalkeeper is a must as well, Jeremy. Remember, Mark, when you said Labour not happening, now obviously we know from the club that they want him to say it. Yeah, I don't agree with you that Rio Ferdinand broke the Labour story at all. I think what Rio does is he looks at a lot of other social media accounts and goes, they're talking about a player, let's talk about a player. the story got broke by Indy Kaler and David Ornstein after that. It didn't get... He was just talking about what a good signing it would be, which is what many of us have been doing for months.

48:03So he didn't break the story, mate. Fabrizio just said that Chelsea are not in talks with Donnarumma, says Bjorn. I don't think anybody's in talks with Donnarumma at the moment because the price is too much. What about... Don, terrible. Why are we looking to sell Rasmus? don't you think we should sell Xerxi? He's not an out-and-out striker. He looks more of a 10. Well, I think Xerxi's going to have a very interesting season, as somebody said last night, Prac. Donnarumma has one year left on his contract. Get him on loan for now and then get him as a free agent, but his wages are high, says Streep.

48:36I agree with your take. If we splurge with Belaber but keep making goalkeeping mistakes, the critics will be out on Amrum's spending methods, says Omko. Also, what people don't realise is that, you know, Sesko's, his first season in the Premier League has to be given patience. Kunia and Mbremo, first season together, has to be given patience. Mbremo, first season in this system, has to be given time. Baleba comes in at 22, step up from Brighton. Is he going to hit the ground running straight away? There's going to be adjustments. And that's why I think the goalkeeper is so important because we know that the new signings are going to take time to adjust.

49:15We know that the current team is vulnerable mentally. We are going to concede goals. There are going to be times where we're under the cosh. Putting a goalkeeper in who knows what they're doing, for me, when you... Look, nobody can guarantee that Amarin's going to be a success. I think he will be, but nobody can. And nobody can tell me that this team's going to hit the ground running when clearly it's going to take time to get going. To me, you put a goalkeeper in that's good. You know, I put David De Gea in goal now. Just put somebody with a bit of experience in goal who knows what they're doing because there are going to be times when we're going to be up against it, especially in the first 10 games.

49:53Will Inanna be going to the World Volleyball Championship in September, says Mike. Amram shouldn't pick Inanna if he wants him gone, says Robert. But he's better than Binder, though, mate. Newcastle needs to pay Premier League tax and we could break even, says JR. Thank you very much for that, Famili. We spoke about that one already. Lemens is more likely to come than Donnarumma, says Liam. and Robert McCormack says Donnarumma is four to five to go to City yeah you've got to be careful with Donnarumma because everyone going Donnarumma you're gonna have to go never wanted him in the in the in the first place if he goes there look what was it I was saying to you last week I got told when we were concluding the Sesco deal that we go for a goalkeeper next and it would be Lemans obviously this the Labour story's sort of overtaken with that um look I'd take Lemans over nothing i i genuinely think united have got some my theory on the goalkeeper is we're waiting for something to happen later in the window and it's a little bit light you know if you're injured you know you know if you bang your ankle and the physio says you need to rest it for four weeks and there's an important game in three weeks and you say i feel well enough to play and the physio says if you're playing that game you're going against my advice you might be okay but if you play on it, you might be out for three months.

51:15So you play the game, you get a knock, you're out for three months. And while you sat there for three months, you know for a fact that if you'd waited another week, you'd have been back fit. What's my point? An honouring goal against Arsenal and Fulham is not ideal. But if you get Lemans now, he's not going to be a goalkeeper probably anyway, and he's going to take time to adjust. But if you wait till after the Fulham game, you might get emi martinez or you might get donnarumma so what i'm saying is if that's the plan i don't mind anana being in goal for fulham and arsenal if we're going to get martinez or donnarumma late in the window it's a it's a bit of a sacrifice but i don't mind it but whether we're going to do that or not i don't know and also we might be waiting to see if we can do that before we buy laments because if you buy laments you can't do that so maybe we're going look we've got laments in the back pocket.

52:09Let's see what happens with Donnarumma and Emi Martinez later in the window, because we can't do anything if we get laments, but you never know. It might present itself. There was a feeling. Thank you very much for that, Seth. I still don't understand why Man United wants to sell Rasmus. Why not leave him as a backup? Also, why sign the Labour when we lack height and power in the midfields, his chin? Mate, you've made a very good point. And the answer to that question is, I thought Van Gaal was the answer. I thought Jose was the answer. I hoped Oli was the answer. I thought Ten Hag was the answer.

52:38None of them are here anymore. So what I'm saying is Amrim might not be the answer. I don't really overanalyze every signing other than, is this what the manager wants to do? Let's back him. I believe every manager should be backed. And if he wants Belieber, then he's a good player and we should do it. But in a year's time we might be going what a car crash that midfield is we just don't know but you know this is somebody that wants to play bruno in the midfield and i don't think that'll work i'd rather see him as a number 10 so i think it's a good signing i think it's the right signing if it's what the manager wants to do and remember it's his vision you talk about height he might be more focused on other attributes really but um yeah i mean look let's see what happens with donnarima because sorry not with Donnarumma with um Belay but because it feels like that's the priority and as I said about that Brighton are another club that will want to get that deal done quickly um they really really will so I I suspect that we probably will get that deal done quite quick um right I'm going to stop it there thank you everybody for watching I am now going to be live with Terry on Hot Takes where we react to some funny clips well not funny clips we just react and stuff so get yourself over to football terrace for that we will be literally live in a couple of minutes thanks everyone for watching we're back at two o 'clock eight o 'clock show tonight as normal and obviously if anything breaks in between fantastic show this morning thank you for everybody getting involved make sure you smash a like and subscribe and i will speak to you all in a bit