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0:02Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news this morning. Lots going on and very interesting stuff going on in relation to Baliba. There is a story coming out from the Manchester Evening News breaking latest news that Man United are prepared to delay a move for Baliba until next year. They've not completely given up on signing in before the window closes, but concede a deal is unlikely. Now, I have got to sit here and say that they are going to have to reap the whirlwind if this is the case, because what we were leading on today, this morning, was that a first bid is being prepared by Fabrizio Romano.

0:45Now, I'm going to say from the outset, I stick with Fabrizio on this. I stick with my stance on this, that Manchester United will get this deal done based upon the evidence. But we have to also be very, very clear that it was Laurie Whitwell in The Athletic last night speaking negatively about it, saying it was unlikely and difficult. He's not the only one. The Manchester Evening News are doing it now. These are client journalists of the football club. You know, Simon Stone, James Ducker. These people follow Man United all around the world. They are that their job is to follow Manchester United.

1:19They're reliant on Manchester United. And therefore, I think they get fed by Manchester United. So you've got to say it is rather concerning. Now, look, there are a couple of updates that I'm sort of focusing on. Fabrizio Romano saying Man United are preparing an opening proposal to Brighton for Belaba. They've been continuing contacts on a daily basis with Belaba's agent and also with Brighton. Now, the next step is to put that record bid in. Of course it is. What are you doing if you spend the last week and a half talking to Belaber with Brighton's permission? What is your thoughts on that? Now, interestingly enough as well, there is a Brighton sort of journalist called Charlie Haffenden.

2:05He says Brighton have not agreed to sell Balaber to Man United at this stage, but talks have now been held between the two clubs after initial talks with the agent. Balaber is keen on joining United, but Brighton won't be bullied into a sale. So posturing is what I'm looking at here. But as I say, I have to just bring you this because it's literally just breaking in the last few minutes. Manchester Evening News, who, let's be honest, are not very good at transfer stuff because they're one of the outlets that don't get any transfer stuff. But what they will get is an indication from the club when the club want to put it out there.

2:39And I feel that with Laurie Whitwell last night and now the Manchester Evening News this morning, Man United are definitely, in my opinion, briefing that the deal is unlikely because it's the second time we've heard the word unlikely. One yesterday from The Athletic, one today from the Manchester Evening News. We've not given up before the window closes, but it's unlikely To which the answer has to be And I'm not going to lose it here I can see people in the chat are losing it Where we are at the moment is We've got two and a half weeks till the window closing The season starts tonight, Sunday for us Our midfield is not good enough for a Premier League season We've publicly put ourselves out there wanting Belayba An Amrim's dream midfielder This is the guy he wants This is what we need.

3:26The midfield's not good enough. You're now telling me that we're going to go. We can't do it. You are basically sending a message to all our rivals that we're not serious and all our fans that we're not serious. And you're also saying we've got a huge problem that we've not solved. So I just don't believe that. And I think that as much as it's easy to have a pop at Manchester United and say, oh, you know, it's we're not very good. that were embarrassing. And we've certainly seen that over the years. I just think we'll get this deal done. So whilst everybody's losing, well, a lot of people are losing their shit this morning, I'm just going to sit here and say again, like I did with Cesco, stay calm.

4:08I think we will get this deal done. And I do trust Fabrizio that we are preparing a bid. I just don't think that we're going to do all this work and then not put a bid in. Now, if Brighton say he's not for sale, then I'd want to know what the bid is. So where I am this morning is maybe Man United, maybe what's happening here, and you can be critical of United for this, but maybe what's happening here is United have spoken to the player. He wants to come to Manchester United. Man United think that's going to be enough. They knock on the door of Brighton and they say, casino, 100 million. Man United go, we can't afford that.

4:46And Brighton go, see you later then. And Man United go, oh, and they walk off. Now, if you've done that, we're super prats, turbo prats, because that's just crap negotiating. But this is the negotiation team that knocked on the door of Villa and said, can we have Emi Martinez on loan? World Cup winning goalkeeper, your number one choice goalkeeper, can we take him on loan? So we're not, it's not impossible that United have knocked on the door to Brighton and said 60 and they've shut the door in our face. I would hope that more like the Cunha deal, the Mbermo deal and the Cesco deal, we actually know the value of Belayba.

5:19and we're going to say 80 plus add-ons or something like that. So I think it's going to come down to that. But I've got to be honest, if this deal doesn't get done, it's not only embarrassing and people will be embarrassed, but at the end of the day, the Glazers have been embarrassed for 20 years. They're not going to worry about being bantered online. The bigger thing is I don't think you should be losing your shit because we don't sign the Labour and it's embarrassing. I would be losing your shit because we're not getting a goalkeeper and that's an absolute non-negotiable. and we're not getting a midfielder and we're going into a season like this where our four biggest rivals, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal are miles ahead of us and they're buying squads and we're not even buying a first team.

6:04So that to me would be the concern if it doesn't happen. But I absolutely agree with what people are saying. Jim says, do you think it was spin all along? I will come back to that. But a lot of people online are saying, we cannot spin this, to coin the phrase from Jim, as we'll go for him next summer. For two reasons. One, I don't give a toss about next summer. We might not be here next summer. Something could happen in the world. We could get hit by a meteor. I'm not interested in future planning in football. I'm interested in the now. Secondly, if we wait till next summer and he has a really good season for Brighton and we don't get into Europe, why would he choose us, even if we've got the money, over a Liverpool or a Real Madrid or a PSG?

6:52So I don't think waiting for the summer can be washed off as a good point. And also what you're basically saying is we're waiting till next summer. We'll put up with the midfield that we've got. Oh, thanks. That sends me into the sea. I will revise my fifth place prediction if we don't get a midfielder and a goalkeeper. So it's as simple as that. But I want to be very, very clear. The breaking news this morning that we were going to go with is that Man United are preparing a record bid for the Labour and that's from Romano and that's where I'm at. Literally as I was about to go live it comes out from the Manchester Evening News that the deal is unlikely even though they've not given up yet.

7:27I think this is posturing. I think we will get the deal done and also Jim talks about spin. The spin would be that United have wasted two weeks putting a name out there to excite the fan base that they have never no chance of getting. Another bit of spin is you put it out there that you're not going to get him and then you do get him and then you get an even bigger bounce of praise. So I still think this is very much on posturing and I'm not going to lose it over it at the moment. Let's get some of your thoughts. We've also got quite a lot to talk about regarding outgoings as well. Sancho, Roma, twist, Canaccio Chelsea closer Rasmus Premier League's day closer we'll talk about all those in a moment but obviously this is big breaking news around Belayba please do smash a like on the video and share the video we've got 15 ,000 watching let's see if we can hit 20 ,000 this Friday morning because the Premier League is back and so is Ruben Amorim we will be live just around sort of quarter to two today his first press conference of the season somebody just said to me that What do you think about his press conference?

8:35I have listened to Amrim since... He's not done that many interviews, actually, but I'm not saying he's going Ten Hag season two pro the Glazers, but I definitely think he's calmer. I think at the end of last season, he was very honest. I think this year he's trying to be very optimistic, which I understand the season hasn't started yet. Why be negative before the season started? So I don't think you're going to get sound bites of, I needed a midfielder and they've messed it up. I need a goalkeeper and they've messed it up. I think you'll get soundbites of positivity. We've got a good squad, this and that, the other.

9:07So I don't think there'll be a lot in there around transfers, etc. But looking forward to hearing from him. Patrick Lynch is normally the voice of reason. He's given us a super chat. He says, for the board, it is vital that making it public that we get him. These two weeks are their last chance to influence how the first half of the season goes. If it doesn't happen, the blame lies at the board level and not the manager. Yeah, Patrick, you are eternally the voice of reason. um you're probably like me you know previous years i'd be losing it banging the table and uh you know screaming and shouting but i'm actually i mean i was in a bloody man united kit have you seen the preview i don't wear man united kits i'm in the new man united kit so look i'm not buying and to people saying i'm funding the glazers you're all funding the glazers so you know that ship's sale.

9:55Don't buy a kit because of the glazes. Come on. We're hundreds of millions of pounds in debt. Nobody can get them out. So, you know, buying a kit probably helps the club buy players if we're being completely honest. So I don't buy into that shit, even though it's something I've been behind in the past. Let's be honest, me not buying a shirt is not going to make a bloody bit of difference because it never did. But, you know, I am strangely, I must be drinking the same thing as Amrim. I mean, check the preview out. It went out at 2am because we have to slot it in. We're running out of spots because it's just so busy at the moment.

10:28Preview for Arsenal, Goldbridge in a football kit, which I don't normally wear, but it's a nice kit. And look, it's the start of the season. I apologise for being positive. I apologise for being excited. I apologise for, you know, wanting to believe that we can be better than last season. But as Patrick says, if we don't get a goalkeeper and we don't get a midfielder, then I don't believe that this transfer window is any higher than a five. Maybe you could be generous and give it an average six. That's not good enough for a team that finished 15th and is not in Europe. I think that the minimum we needed from this summer transfer window was an eight.

11:06An eight. An eight. If six is average, seven is good, an eight is very good, nine is excellent, and ten is perfect. I don't think below average or average washes anyway. I think this needed to be an excellent or very good transfer window. And at the moment, it's certainly not. So that would fall on the board, not the manager. So I agree with Patrick on that. I think, yeah. Kenton says it's about time you were positive. And yet, Kenton, I imagine you're the sort of person that hangs around in the toxic back streets of X, listening to people say Forrest fan, negative stand and all this. If you actually watch the show on a daily basis, you would realise that we are massively community-led.

11:47And actually, I've backed every single manager for the last six years, longer than anybody else. And we just want Manchester United to win. So, you know, if that's negative, then I presume you don't watch the channel because there are still a bunch of saddos out there that bitterly think we're something that we're not. Are you in the 90 % club for Buleba, says Sam? Mate, I'm not even in the bloody 70 % club. I'm not even in the 69 % club. Wish I was. I'm 60%. I've always been confident, but look, I'm not naive to the fact that when Laurie Whitwell and the Manchester Evening News are saying unlikely, they're getting that from somewhere because that's client journalism.

12:32People get offended by client journalism. Well, look, be a proper journalist then. Go out and dig up real stories around Man United like we did about the ownership of land that nobody knew about. So client journalism is following Man United around and being on the gravy train, taking information from them, putting it out there. That's absolutely fine. It provides a service. But I worry about that a little bit because obviously United are putting it out there. Wouldn't be the first time they've used those journalists, though, to spin a story. And as I said, it could be the calm before the storm.

13:03It could be play it down and then you get it and it's amazing, which I would do. If I was United, I'd play it down a little bit so that when it happens, it's amazing. I mean, you're about to break records on this bid so yeah uh man united need to be roof what are you doing back in your office for a morning show i actually thought i wasn't going to be in the morning show but then shouts out to the electrician he's hurt his foot so he can't come and do the electrics today so there's no noise i can be in my studio so every cloud um man united need to be ruthless but no thoughts with the electrician and hopefully it'll be okay uh i think apparently he's got a fitness test on Sunday should be able to be, you know, back on the, wouldn't be back on the grass, would it?

13:45But back on the concrete on Sunday, Saturday, hopefully. Jamie says, Man United need to be ruthless going for Belaber. If we can match price for Brighton's sake, don't bother. May as well sign Kelvin Phillips. Jamie, I've got to be honest. I like, I like it. I like, I like your ruthlessness, but with two weeks to go in the window, I want a midfielder. I couldn't give a toss about being ruthless. Romano saying that the Brighton manager is very confident that Belaber will stay this season. I've got to say, it's starting to drift. Even I can be honest, it's starting to drift. And as I said, waiting till next year is an absolute cop-out.

14:32Yeah, Herzl says he's very confident Belaber will be with Brighton this season, sees no changes in the player so yeah just starting to drift away very very quickly isn't it why is Agate just disappeared off the face of the earth shouldn't he be part of the midfield conversation I think he is Nina but um it's a very important season for Agate um I thought he did okay last year I like the player but um I think the thing with the midfield because there will be people now going let's wait till next year because they're so bloody naive that they think it can happen. All through pre-season, our midfield was weak.

15:09All through last season, our midfield was weak. Our midfield's weak. Amrim knows it, you know it, I know it. It's not that Bruno's weak or Agathe's weak or Manu's weak, but as a collective, it's weak. It's missing something. So Agathe next to Belaba could be brilliant. Bruno next to Belaba could be brilliant, but it's missing something. And this is the missing piece. We can't construct a midfield out of what we've got. It doesn't mean the current players are bad. It just means they don't fit together. It's like building, you know, a Lego fire station and you've got no ladders. You know, the firemen are going to look bloody stupid in a tall building.

15:46And I don't think there's a problem with the pieces we've got. They just don't go together very well. I have a feeling they'll witness our midfield get run ragged on Sunday and then the Belaber talks will heat up. Well, this is a very intelligent point, William, as well. I mean I've just previewed my Premier League predictions with Robbie on win lose or draw on that's football and obviously he's very confident about Arsenal they're going for a title and I must admit where did it all go wrong I'm sat here before a ball's been kicked with an Arsenal fan they're talking about Premier League titles golden boots and Champions Leagues and I'm talking about maybe fifth and I thought you know what whoever you blame that's this what where did it all go on.

16:24Like it's not even, the season's not even kicked off and we're talking about, can we get fifth? I think this is the worst we've ever been. I don't think people want that conversation. This is the worst we've ever been. And I know Sir Jim's trying to build something new, but he's been here 18 months and I know the Glazers are still here, but I can't think of a season where we've started it without a ball kicking and we're saying we'll be lucky to get fifth. Last season under Ten Hag, we were talking about top four. I don't remember a season where we've said, we'll do well to get fifth. Moyes, we didn't.

16:55I know we didn't get anywhere near it, but we didn't. We were talking about a title. Van Gaal's first season, definitely weren't talking about lucky to get fifth. None of Jose's seasons were we saying lucky about getting fifth. None of Ollie's, none of Ten Hag's, and yet here we are, Ribbon Amirim, and we're saying we'll do well to get fifth. I'm not blaming Amirim. I'm not blaming Sir Jim. I'm not blaming Verrata. I'm just saying where we are as a football club is terrifying because I think universally, most people are saying we'd do really well to get fifth, Manchester United Football Club, you know?

17:26Of course, we've got to go and get a belabor. Of course, we've got to go and get a goalkeeper. If I say to you, why are we sat here talking about we'll do well to get fifth? And I say to you, how do you put me into fifth or fourth? You're going to say signings. So excuse me if I'm sat here saying we can't be pulling out of a belabor deal. We can't be delaying it till next year. We can't not be getting a goalkeeper because all our fan base is going, we'll do well to get fifth. I want to know how we get fourth. And to do that, it's signings. So fucking make them, you know, the season hasn't even started.

18:00The window's still open for two and a half weeks. Make some bloody signings. We have made some good signings. I mean, in the back of my head, I talk about Sheshko and Kunyurin and Bermut. and I think they're really good signings, but it's almost like going out on a night out without your trousers on. The top looks great. Your hair's lovely. You know, your shirt's lovely, but we can all see your arse. You're exposed. In fact, you haven't even got a shirt. You've got a crop top on because the middle's exposed as well. If we wait till next summer, there will be a bidding war. I'd, Steve, absolutely,

18:39not interested in waiting a year for Belieber. Absolutely not interested in that. Amrim might not even be here. What about that? Amrim's sacked at Christmas. So it's just ridiculously stupid on all levels to go, we're going to wait a year. You can't wait a year in football. Nobody waits a year in football. I know there are signings that could be coming in a year like Kenda at Chelsea but it's not like they've gone Chelsea haven't left themselves exposed on the wings have they they've got other players that they've brought in and then Kenda comes next season you don't go we'll leave a massive hole in our midfield because he's coming in next year um Stephen says if you don't get belabor this season will it stop the buzz and momentum we've got going in your opinion Stephen nothing's gonna stop the buzz on Sunday 75 ,000 fans Old Trafford lovely weather arsenal we can still win we can beat anybody on our day but over a 38 game season the reason man united have won trophies is because on any given day we can beat anybody but on any given day we can lose to somebody so in cups you've got more chance of doing well because it's you're up for the cup over a 38 premier league season home and away games the truth will come out.

19:50What you really are will come out. So over a 38-game season, if your midfield's weak, it'll get exposed. Your goalkeeper will get exposed. So whatever the positives are about the attack, we've basically got to outscore the weaknesses in our midfield and defence, which is difficult. It doesn't mean we can't do it, but I expect improvement, but it's very, you know, you're only as strong as your weakest link, basically, in football. if we're not doing this deal then it's keeper time says me i'd still be worried about the midfield though could this be spin to build up as an impossible deal says daniel oh i'm hoping so daniel exactly fpl code is z y w 3 v t says wolfie i don't know what that's for um it probably an attempt to temper expectations i don't know about unlikely but i would agree it's difficult says emily you know what emily why are we in this deal if it's difficult who at man united went let's put it out there publicly that we want the Labour.

20:48And then somebody goes, you realise the chances of us doing this deal are next to nothing. No, let's put it out there. What can go wrong? Well, I can tell you what can go wrong. The minute David Ornstein reports we're in for the Labour, everyone will think we're going to get it done. And then if we don't get it done, people will say, what the hell are we doing? We'd be better off staying quiet on this. so I don't understand the publicity around it if we couldn't get the deal done losing on Donnarumma and Belaber in one week is a space audit well apparently Donnarumma only wants Man City so yeah whip it in would you pivot to Anana from Villa for 70 mil no bloody hell I wouldn't pivot to anybody for 70 million pounds because I think that for 30 million pounds extra you can get Belaber Alex is asking about a fancy Premier League I'm not going to get time to do it this year Alex so many people have asked me about it and to be honest with you most people lose interest after three weeks so I'm just going to leave it this year I think Connor thank you very much for your super chat appreciate that please do keep sharing the video and smash a like we're very close to 20 ,000 this morning breaking news that Man United may be moving away from a Belaber deal and leaving it till next summer at least that's according to the Manchester Evening News but Fabrizio Romano overnight did say and I repeat, I will quote this because I think it's important.

22:09He said that Manchester United are preparing a bid for Belaba and they have been continuing contacts on a daily basis with his agents. What I will add to that though is something I've just been sent from

22:33another direct quote from Romano for Man United in order to present an official bid and to understand if that can be worth keeping negotiating with Brighton for him it's important to understand more about the outgoings selling players or finding solutions is really important so I don't know I mean look I don't think there's a wrong stance to take on this it feels like you could say we need to sell to buy and we're not selling. You could say that we've gone into this naively thinking that Brighton will negotiate for a player that's probably their best player. You could say it's a little bit of posturing and that we will get the deal done.

23:09I'd be very worried if we've knocked on the door of Brighton and said the player wants to come to us, so do us a deal. Because if I was Brighton, as I said with Brentford, I'd say the price is this. Pay it or don't. We want to keep it. Mark, I've done that one. Thank you very much, Sam. Appreciate it. Let me just refresh here. So I think Brighton are just playing games. Well, they've got every right to play games. Every right to play games.

23:41Okay, Gems says the United Stand Discord server has made a league. The code is ZYW3VT. There you go. Thank you, Gems. It's the code for the TUSFP. Al says Wolfie. There you go. You can't wuss out of Belayba Says Amelie Derry When you've publicly briefed About this amazing meeting Where your manager has publicly said I want Belayba Good point Morning Mark Time to go for Yomlin and Lemens If they say we have approximately 100 million to play around with And Yomlin fits the system Says Deville Child Well I actually do agree with that And I said that a week ago Like I know it's going to piss people off But if we can't get Belayba I think we have to pivot And get somebody else because we cannot waste any further time looking at anything else.

24:31Sorry, we cannot waste time leaving the hole and we cannot wait till next summer and miss out either. J.E. says, the biggest red flag about this Belaber bid is that there hasn't been one. If Man United have agreed personal terms, then put in a bid. Believe what the club does, not what they say. Bradders has passed his driving test on Wednesday. Well done, Bradders. Lovely. Be careful out and about there. Don't speed. thought man united bankrupt and couldn't buy staff lunch says fraser uh we have to adjust our expectations as fans or we'll keep going through this cycle and nothing will change disappointment is fine vitriol isn't says howardinho agate is as slow as a week in jail not the answer josh josh get a new face with eyes in it and uh get better eyes basically or even you know less drastic get yourself down to the opticians agate is one of the quickest midfielders in the league.

25:23Speed is not his problem. He's actually really quick. So you've missed out there, Josh. That's not one of Agathe's problems. He's really quick for a midfielder. Chip says, if our midfield gets annihilated on Sunday, the price for Belaber will go up by 20 million. Brighton will smell the desperation a mile away. Yeah, they've got quite a good opener as well at home, haven't they? George says, would you send Mainu on loan to Brighton for a year if it meant we got Belaber considering their player development and it would mean they wouldn't need to get a replacement? I mean, I would, George, because he'd be playing Premier League football, but I don't know what the plans are with Maina in the first team this year.

25:58I think Brighton are just playing games with United to push the bid higher, says Sal. Identical statements were put out by Brighton 11 days before Chelsea signed KC, says Glenn. Oh, yeah. Mate, I'll be honest with you. If you're sat there worrying about the manager of Brighton saying that he's confident that Belaber will be a player for Manchester, for Brighton, after the transfer window's closed. If you're sat there and you're worried about that, you're naive. I've played the game. Seriously, that is not something to get concerned about. There are so, so many times where managers have said that.

26:34I mean, I remember Ronaldo saying that he was staying at Man United for a year and the next day he signed for Real Madrid. Collier leaving is a sign we're getting a mobile midfielder. We're making it seem this difficult to do. The board looked great. Well, I think this is a great observation from Moyad as well. Remember, Collier has gone. So, and Kone isn't obviously ready and hopefully he's going to recover from this injury quite quickly. But four midfielders is not enough anyway. We don't really have any... We play a midfield too and we've only got four players now. Casemiro, whose legs are gone.

27:07Maynou, Fagate and Bruno. So, we have to bring another midfielder in anyway. That's a great point. What gets me is a few signings and it seems that the noise about the Glazers and Sir Jim Out movement has disappeared, says Liam. Yeah, but you know what? There was a protest that was planned for Sunday that's been postponed.

27:24What did we say talking about this? Unfortunately, this fan base, as a collective, we all have to take responsibility, is flippant. and what I mean by that is if we lose 9-0 against Arsenal on Sunday the Glazer out movement will be back but if we sign Belaber on Monday the Glazer out movement will disappear there's no sustainability in this fan base to remove or make change because we are so easily influenced by a new kit a new signing or bad results and I take responsibility for that as much as you do like as a collective we're only as strong as it's like man united not having a goalkeeper or a midfielder we're all fans but as a fan base we're only as strong as our weakest links and our weakness has always been the glazers tried to take us into a super league they survived it because the season closed and they bought a few players so the cycle of glazer out movement will always be this during the season when you're losing games you won't have any problems having a protest during the summer when there are no games and we're buying players, people aren't interested.

28:37It's just what it is. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. It's just what it is. So when you worry about the Glazer out movement, that's just life. That's the way it's always been. We buy players in the summer. We're having a madness. We start losing games during the season and everyone loses their shit. So it's just that's why it's quite around that at the moment. I said it start of the week. We won't sign anyone else, says Sean Turner. Brighton aren't going to scramble for a replacement. I and won't sell, says Sean. With it drifting and wanting Wharton too, according to rumours, wouldn't it be better to pivot, says Dale?

29:09I think Adam Wharton at Palace would work very well in our midfield. I actually do really, really like him. I know that United have liked him for a long time. The problem with that is, is that Palace are going to lose half a team with no time to replace them if they're not careful. Go where he wants to go, as he wants to go, all right, you're pocketing a load of money, but you're losing three of your best players. So I think Wharton out of Palace in many ways is going to be as hard, if not harder, than getting Belaber out of Brighton because Brighton will sell Belaber. They've said that. They just want the right price.

29:46I don't think Palace, even though Wharton would be cheaper, I just don't think they'd want to do that this summer. We've grown so used to bad transfer windows that we finally get an okay one. It feels amazing, though it really isn't as lazy. and could the unlikely briefing be out of respect for Brighton's desire not to sell? Brighton could react if we brief that we're trying to get our man, says JKD. Hope so. Space Oddy says the Brighton manager said the labour is staying, as I said. Countless managers have said they're confident to players staying and then they move. We should pivot to Inanna from Villa, says Whip It In.

30:17Man United, okay. Okay, let's move on because there are other things to talk about. We're very close to 20 ,000 watching this morning. Make sure you smash a like and subscribe. That subscriber number is wrong, by the way. Just a bit of a shout out. We are very close to 150 ,000, which is another big thing for the channel. We're only 400 subscribers away. So please do subscribe, bottom right hand corner. Now, I'm going to just talk about some outgoings here because the big thing that sort of caught my eye last night in a low way was, well, actually, let me just talk about this. I want to talk about Ganacho.

30:54Forest's transfer window, by the way, is subtly, like Sunderland, pretty impressive. So Endoy, I like. They've brought two Brazilians in, one of them Igor Jesus, I think is going to be very good. They're going for McAtee. They've kept hold of Gibbs White. They've just bought Amari Hutchinson from Ipswich for£37.5 million. pounds. Now, the relevancy of this is one, that's a very good transfer window with numerous positions solved, whereas we've only solved our attack. And I talk about them because we talk about fifth place and United getting fifth place, because I think Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool will be ahead of us.

31:46I saw Spurs on Wednesday night under Thomas Frank look a lot better, and they've got a good squad. Obviously, Newcastle will be a threat for fifth place. Villa are a bit of an unknown. I'm doing Newcastle-Villa tomorrow lunchtime, actually, on That's Football just to get a look at those two teams early. But Forrest have bought well as well. I mean, could you rule them out for fifth? I know they're in Europe, but they've bought well. But also, apparently, Fabrizio has said in relation to Ganaccio that the deal for Ganaccio is very, very, very advanced and progress is being made. But if Amari Hutchinson is going from Ipswich to Forrest for 37.5 million, surely that's a good thing for us because we can't be taking less than that.

32:36So surely that for Man United is good. Surely that's good because I'm taking that as a positive this morning. if Forrest are paying basically 37 million pounds for Omari Hutchinson United have got every right to say okay okay he's worn a Villa shirt we can't ask for 60 but we can definitely start at 40 you're not telling me that Omari Hutchinson from Ipswich is worth more than Man United so I know there's a lot to sometimes moan about and I'm not moaning about Belaber I still think we'll get him stay calm but also I think this is a real positive on Ganacho Apparently, it's very, very, very advanced, but that is perfect timing.

33:2237.5 million to Forrest from Ipswich. If you're Man United, you just go, all right, we're stuck here. You want to give us 35, we want 50, but come on. I'm just going to give you that. Tell us why he's worth less than 45. because there's no way on this earth that Hutchinson's got the status, potential or value of Ganaccio. I'm not saying he won't be a better player than Ganaccio in the future, but you're buying Ganaccio, so you're going to expect him to be a good signing. You've got to say that if I'm Man United, I'm literally dropping that into the meeting this morning and I'm saying like Ganaccio can sit on his arse all he likes, but we're not here to get robbed.

34:06it's 45 million. Ganacho for me is clearly worth at least seven and a half million more than Hutchinson. So it's 45 million, please. So that could be really well-timed for us. Luke says it will be 35 to 40 max. Mate, if we take an initial fee less than 37.5, we've been absolutely mugged by Chelsea and fair play to them. And we've been mugged off. I would take 40 plus really significant add-ons but yeah at least my concern was that we were going to get pushed below 40 um ideally I'd like to take 45 but I think that's a good update really right we're going to talk about Sancho next but Nick says can you call Lee McCabe a Pratt please Mark um Pranir Pratt Lee uh 19 ,300 watching please keep sharing the video and smash a like We're getting close to 20K.

34:57Superbart says, Morning, Mark. First time in a long time. I'm feeling more optimistic, but I do believe we need a midfielder and Inanna has to be replaced or we ain't getting fifth. Perfect sentence. Perfect sentence. Thanks very much for the super chat. William says, Apart from Sesco, I like that we're going for Champions League worthy players that haven't yet tasted it. They can miss, they can't miss what they haven't had yet, says William. Sam says, Did you see Bruno commented freedom under Romano's tweets about...

35:25Roma's bid for Sancho. I haven't got my phone with me, so I can't check, but surely that's not true. Hello, Mark. Will you beat Amrim out if we finish 15th this season or will your anger and frustration still be pointed at Ineos and the Glazers? Marlo, I will be completely honest because I think a lot of people aren't and I pride myself on the honesty in this community. You've thrown up a hypothetical there. If we finish 15th this season, then Amrim's got to go. I'm not stupid. Like, you know, there'd be no justification for that. I think if you finish ninth, there might be some reason for that.

36:01Multiple injuries, et cetera. You can't be finishing 15th again. So I would say no. He would have to go in that circumstance. But I don't expect it to happen. And I back him 100%. Mark, did you see Brighton's statement on Belieber, says Ryan. I did. so yeah they're just basically saying they're confident he'll stay but that you're not in a briefing that at the moment if we're being honest it's only two years since bryant had wanted 100 million for evan ferguson whilst 80 million now might be below valuation it's not guaranteed next year says jeff i don't know what went wrong with evan ferguson jeff and you're right to say that it doesn't always go right but i think the vast majority of us and the world of football would look at someone like belaba and say i think in a year's time he's going to real madrid liverpool Chelsea, someone like that.

36:51And our whole play is to try and get this done early. At the moment, you know the way I think about United at the moment, we're the Bayern Munich of England, but effectively we need to behave like the Borussia Dortmund. And what I mean by that is that we can't just flex our muscles anymore and get the best players. And like Dortmund, your scouting needs to be better. You need to be taking more risks and you need to be more future thinking. So Bayern Munich with Belaber would wait till next summer and get him. We're buying Munich, there's the money. Dortmund would try and get him in a year early like we are.

37:29And that's the way we're acting at the moment. And that's the way, well, we're not acting like that. That's the way we have to act. We can't sit there and go, we're Man United next summer if we're not in Europe and other people have got more money than us. Party like it's 1999 says Brighton won't turn down 100 million. It's down to us. as you say i think if you go to crystal palace they'll turn anything down for wharton because they do not want to sell i think with brighton if you knock a good knock on the door and present a good offer i think they'll take it if we haven't got the money to put that offer in then we've got to question ourselves um seth says do you think we can do a future transfer like kenda for believer and get yulmland and goalkeeper no no so what you're saying is could Could we do a deal with Brighton where he stays where he is for a year?

38:19I mean, we can't do that. We won't have the money to do that and get anybody else. Everything, FPL code 819KKP says Hammo. Donut fix is 50-50 at the moment. Waiting for Ornstein, to be honest, Suzuki. Belaber aligns with United's policy. Physically, prem proven and resale value. Given the initial reports, I find it hard to believe nothing happens. yes well i'm in that position again james like you where i'm sort of like going you know i think it will happen right let me talk to you about jayden sancho so jayden sancho i don't know why i'm doing like that jayden sancho i mean look this is this is why i don't talk much about jayden sancho transfers i've been very consistent about this over the summer transfer window some of you agree with me some of you don't um so i've been very very consistent about this in the sense that I don't care about Jadon Sancho transfer stories at all because they are just one long boring saga so last night people were talking about Roma 20 million pounds and I've always said how the hell does this happen like Chelsea would have been offering him good wages and he turned them down how the bloody Roma can't offer Juventus can't offer AC Milan can't offer what Chelsea offered him in wages and I think people forget this like he was offered really good wages at Chelsea I think in excess of 150 grand a week so 150 grand a week in the Italian league makes you one of the best paid players in the league so he turned that down I follow the evidence so with Belaba I'm relaxed because Ornstein's update to me suggests that we'll get this deal done.

40:08Despite all the unlikely stuff, I think it's posturing. With Sancho, I follow the evidence. He turned down Chelsea's wage offer of over 150 grand a week, apparently. And we're meant to believe that he wants to go to Italy where he won't earn that amount of money and that we'll get a transfer fee. So yesterday, Roma wants to pay 20 million for Sancho, yeah? This morning, it's not 20 million. it's a loan with an obligation to buy. But you know what you can do with your obligation to buy? You can get yourself down Sainsbury's or Boots, get yourself a big tube of KY jelly and ram it up your arse. Because we don't like loan obligations to buy because we know what they are.

40:47They're not worth the paper they're bloody written on. In fact, I'd rather write my arse with it. They don't mean anything. We've been rattled, rumbled, packaged up and sent to bloody the post office. Obligation to buy, Man United fans can talk to anybody about that. Don't ever get excited about obligation to buy because what it actually means is not and no obligation to buy. You don't have to buy them. They can still get sent back. So Roma wanting to loan Sancho with an obligation to buy, two things. One, it doesn't mean anything. And two, he's out of contract in a year. So what are we going to do?

41:24Extend his contract by a year when he's on 300 grand a week. He's running his contract down and he's a free agent next summer. At what point are we just going to realise that he's going to go on loan and he's going to end his contract? That is the most logical thing. That's why he turned Chelsea's good wage down. He's going to run his contract down and he's going to go on loan. And I've been thinking this since the minute he came back from Chelsea. And yet all summer, we keep getting these new stories every couple of weeks that Juventus are going to give us 25 million. Roma are going to give us 20 million.

41:58Galatasaray are going to give us 15 million. And none of them ever bloody happen because they're not logical. They don't make any bloody sense. And I feel that I've wasted three minutes of my life. I'm never going to get back talking about it. Just get him out on loan. I don't see him as a Man United player anyway. I don't care about the financials. Just get rid of him. Get rid of him. I mean, he's got to be the biggest waste of space talent in the last five years. He sat so much, he spent more time playing a bloody computer game football than he has on the pitch. Just get him out. Just get it.

42:37I mean, the scary thing is, right, How much time in a transfer window where we haven't got what we needed to get done? Seriously, how much time have we wasted on Sancho this summer? How many phone calls, emails and conversations have our negotiators had with Galatasaray, with Juventus, with Roma, with Chelsea? like people don't realize man united cut a load of jobs in the last 12 months we we only do one deal at a time traditionally i don't think people realize that as much as the sancho thing's annoying we've probably wasted days if not weeks negotiating sancho's exit and if he hadn't been here how would we have used that time so people don't realize that It's not as simple as, oh, you know, just get rid of him, get rid of him.

43:32We're actually wasting time. We've spoken to loads of clubs trying to get rid of him. So whoever's working on this Sancho stuff, just a waste of time. Absolute dead hours. And we haven't got enough people to do that. And we could have been talking about a goalkeeper. If he'd have gone to bloody Chelsea, we'd have 20 million pounds in our pocket and we wouldn't have been negotiating for him. So St. Jimmy says, three weeks sober today, Mark. thanks for you and the community for helping me with the cravings. Love you guys. Well done, mate. Thank you very much for letting us know that. Very proud of you.

44:06Dave the Brave says, too soon to be paying 100 million. I love the player, but this is insane. So Dave, you are brave if you're saying, let's just go with the midfield we've got. And that's the thing. You can say it's too much money, but the alternative. Sorry to burst the bubble, but if we do not sign Belieber or a better midfielder, we'll finish 10th or lower. No keeper, no midfield, young striker, says Tushar. thank you very much for that right let me just have a quick look around yeah look there is there is some suggestions that Fulham are taking a look at Rasmus because Munez is heading to Atalanta with Luckman leaving there I do think I mean look this is not a United Stand comment but I do feel for the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham so good last season and they just seem to be being decimated but um if munez went um fulham rasmus still in the premier league i still think if he's gonna go there'll be better offers on the table where he can play european football um dortmund wouldn't surprise me um if i was rasmus i'd go the bundesliga I'd look at the likes of Eketike, who's older than him Sesko, who's the same age And I'd go, I'm still only 22 Bundesliga, so many players have been taken from the Bundesliga Into the Premier League this year That's where I'd go Dortmund, Leipzig, Leverkusen I think that's the league to go to Because he's done Italy So if he goes back to Italy and he does well People will say, oh he just suits the Italian league um so yeah that's what i would do i'd go i'd go germany um uh dr says don't you think fulham would be good for a loan i don't know why again i i think this is just trying to raise pennies i don't know why you'd loan a player under the pretense that there's an obligation to buy again these obligations are just you know not worth it juventus have reached an agreement to sign moany well that was always going to happen wouldn't it Chelsea have agreed personal terms with Ganaccio and he's waiting for the move.

46:20Man United insist on receiving 50, arguing that Ganaccio should not be sold for less than 52 that saw Maduaki move from Chelsea to Arsenal. That's from Ben Jacobs. I think realistically 45 is about right. Listen to this from Fabrizio Romano. After McAtee and Hutchinson, Forrest planned for more signings. Talks continue with Douglas Luiz. And they're also looking at Muzza. Oh, Muzza. Is that, is that, is that, let me just check this. I mean, look, I don't know what he's like in real life, but it is. It's Muzza at AC Milan. USA, 22. Oh, he's so good on, I always buy him on EAFC and FIFA. bloody hell i'd like to see him in the prem um

47:18yeah teams are starting to get active aren't we we've got to we've got a boy believer mate um maguire on sesco i haven't trained with him much yet he's very tall i'm sure he's going to cause a lot of problems for defenders uh we need to remember that he's young he has all the qualities to contribute in this club for many years. So we're going to support him and keep our fingers crossed that he scores lots of goals. Can't wait for the season to start, by the way. We're early at seven o 'clock tonight. So we've got the press conference with Amerim Reaction at about quarter to two. And then I'm live at seven o 'clock tonight because I'm doing Liverpool Bournemouth on That's Football.

47:53So yeah, we'll be live to that. Definitely. But look, in summary, let me just make sure I've hit everything I wanted to hit. canacho donnarumma has set his sights on joining man city i mean blah blah blah i always said we wouldn't get donnarumma but apparently we're in talks with him um yeah i think the hutchinson thing going from ipswich to forest for 37 million is good for us because we can push the price up on ganacho i agree with that um absolutely so do you think the fact that belabor hasn't actually been in the brighton squad since may is a fact last game was against spurs i think it's gonna be very interesting to see if he's in the squad tomorrow toki um you know you look at someone like izak he won't be in the squad tomorrow for for newcastle so if sancho doesn't end up leaving i'm putting him on toilet cleaning duty says sal uh thank you very much so look where we are at the moment gems has just put the discord server in the chat by the way this good i pop in there every now and again it's uh it's a good little thing um but brighton are calling the shots as catch 22 Of course they are.

48:58Of course they are. I also think that when it comes to the Belaber situation, we're just going to have to wait and see what happens with it. But I think that the main thing here is that United are clearly briefing that the deal is going to be very difficult. Brighton are clearly briefing that they don't expect to sell him.

49:26so we've either spent two weeks stupidly negotiating with a player that we haven't got the money for or this is just all posturing um but i've always said you've got to have at least 80 million to give to brighton at least and if you give them 80 you've got to give them another 30 inachievable add-ons very very quickly i think if you put that on the table you might start to negotiate it but if you don't go anything more than that then you don't a lot of people saying romano's update how's about telling us the update instead of typing romano because um all i can see is an update uh about jayden sancho which i am not interested in um i don't trust any update on sancho so romer waiting for sancho to give his green light man united prepared to accept 20 million bid but waiting for jayden sancho jayden open to discuss since earlier this week see again Then that's, I'm confused by that because last night it was 20 million.

50:24This morning it was obligation to buy 20 million. And then this morning Fabrizio is talking like it's 20 million again. Like 20 million bid is not 20 million if it's an obligation to buy. I'm sorry, I'm not falling for that shit again. I'm not falling for it. So how are they bidding 20 million? if it's an obligation to buy. You know?

50:58Chris says, United Stan doesn't want to talk about a United player. I don't want to talk about Sancho, but I spent five minutes talking about him 15 minutes ago. It's a turn of phrase, mate. Wisen up.

51:11I'd move Sancho for any price, even a KFC meal deal, so structural. Has the cough gone? It's the dust, Christian. So I've just been hoovering up and wiping it down. So yeah, it's a lot better there. A lot better there.

51:28TUSFPL code. Chris, someone will drop that in for you, I'm sure. Yeah, so look, regarding do I think we'll get anything breaking today? It doesn't feel like the day the Premier League starts and Brian have got a game tomorrow. I don't see anything happening. But I'm not going to change my opinion. I was very relaxed about Seshko. I'm still very relaxed about the Labour. I think we're in for him. I think we'll get the deal done. And I'm, you know, hopeful that, well, I think we have to get the deal done, of course. But yeah, nothing changes massively for me on that, if I'm being completely honest.

52:09We're back, as I say, just after half past one with Amrim's first press conference reaction. we've also got um what do we got seven o 'clock show tonight premier league's back on that's football you can also check out on that's football win lose or draw me against robbie the forfeits good this year we go head-to-head predicting the premier league fixtures you can play that as well check it out on that's football take care everybody thanks for tuning in this morning 19 000 legends live um and i'll see i'll speak to you in a bit thank you very much for watching take care

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