167: Mainoo TRANSFER Truth Revealed! LATE Baleba Bid?

0:04Hello, everybody. Good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news this Wednesday morning. It's a match day. That should be a bit of positivity for us. But actually, the drop we're getting this morning from the Athletic predominantly about Kobi Meynu has to raise the concern levels. But there is a truth. There is a truth here. We've got talk of United willing to take£45 million. We've got talk of Maynou being willing to go in the next few days. We've got talk of wage demands not matching what Manchester United want to pay.

0:39There is a clear truth here that I think people are just not grasping and it's staring us all in the face. It is so easy to read this situation and understand it without panicking about Mainu leaving or anything else like that. And if Mainu was to leave, would it open up in the final few days a deal for Baleba? Considering we've only got four midfielders and if Mainu did leave, we would have to go into the market and it would have to be a significant signing. So could it be Mainu out and a significant signing in in five days? And even that sounds preposterous. So we're going to dive into all of this.

1:15Thanks, everyone who's tuning in. Get your thoughts in. I mean, look, honestly, if you want my opinion straight out off the bat, I feel that, you know, I understand how the media works. I understand how you work. When Man United don't win a game of football, people get stressed, people get angry, people get toxic, whatever you want to call it. We are living in a results business. We also live in a results business in the media. You know, they can't wake up in the morning and go, there's nothing to write about. Let's not make something up. they have to wake up in the morning and go, what's going to get loads of interest?

1:45I know Manchester United. And I don't think we're actually being fed the truth around Manu at all. So look, let me just capitalise here on what the Athletic are saying. Manu currently earns around£20 ,000 a week. He was hoping for a substantial raise, potentially up to 10 times that, which would be£200 ,000 a week. Now, remember, the most important thing as we get your comments, my comments, and read the news is you can't pick and choose. and I think people who pick and choose are always going to struggle because they take the bit they like and they ignore the bit they don't like and in the same article about Maynou going or Man United wanting 45 million which is you know causing major outrage and I'll have my say on that in the same article it also says Maynou was hoping for a substantial pay rise potentially 10 times bigger than what he's on so you can't ignore the fact that according to the article that says United might sell him for 45 million.

2:39It also says Maynou wants 200 grand a week. You can't have your apple and eat it. Well, you can. But my point is, you can't just go, oh, I'm pro Maynou and anti-United, so I'm going to ignore the fact that he maybe wants 200k a week. I like Maynou. He ain't worth 200 grand a week. And I think we're probably going to walk towards the truth of what's going on here. And it says new deal on the thumbnail. And I think new deal happens. I really do. I think this is just posturing for a new deal. I don't think there's any time for Manchester United to do this. I don't think there's any desire for Maynou to do this.

3:13And I think what it is, is, you know, fair play for Maynou and his agents. It's a position that they're playing to their strength to try and get the wage they want from the contract they need. He will start tonight as well, which is which is the hilarious thing. Anyway, let me cover the news first, then we can get into the opinion. Maynard currently earns around£20 ,000 a week. He was hoping for a substantial raise, potentially up to 10 times his current salary, but the club are reluctant to agree to that even when he was playing regularly. There is a belief that Man United would now accept around£45 million for Maynard, potentially even less as the deadline draws near.

3:52I'll come back to that. when Chelsea inquired about his availability during the window in January Stamford Bridge officials were quoted 70 million there is a belief United would now accept around 45 million and aside from a pursuit of for labour Man United's summer long search for a midfielder has focused more heavily on identifying an alternative to Bruno Fernandes somebody who would play alongside either Casemiro or Agate one who would in effect replace Manu within the squad as per Ruben Amirim's latest description of his role. Again, very speculative. I mean, I read the Athletic article and I felt it was just ridiculously one-sided, very anti-Amirim and very speculative because Man United's stance is they don't want Manu to go.

4:42And I think the Athletic have been fed by Manu's side on this or people close to Manu because it doesn't read, there's nothing from United there. It's like Man United are believed to be expecting about£45 million. The midfielder that they're looking at is believed to be replacing Manu. Manu's looking for a big pay rise. It's like every update I've read this morning, I just sort of went, whatever. I genuinely did. And the only thing I thought was, let's just follow it through to this supposed conclusion. If Manchester United sold Maynou for£45 million this week, let's just pretend that's going to happen.

5:26If Manchester United sell Maynou for£45 million this week, we're going to buy another midfielder. And we're going to buy somebody big because we had 55 already for the Labour and you'd have another 45 from Maynou. So we'd have£100 million. pounds the labor so if man united sold mainu in the next few days which i'm absolutely convinced they won't we would then go and buy wharton or or belabor i'm absolutely convinced and and that's what people don't want to listen to because they're like we can't sell mainu we can't sell well we can but we won't and we shouldn't and we don't want to but if we did we're not going to leave ourselves with three midfielders going into a new season, one of which is Bruno.

6:11So again, I think the reports we're getting are just very centred around Maynou. But actually, if you open up your mind, the story is really easy to read. We won't sell him. If we did, we'd buy big because we'd have to. And there isn't time to do this, by the way. But more importantly, it's very, very clear that we've got a game tonight. And it's very, very clear that Mainou will play tonight. And if Mainou plays tonight and he plays well, there'll be a demand that he plays against Burnley. And if he does leave, his price will go up anyway. So really, the ball is in Mainou's court to perform tonight in a Man United shirt like we all want him to and for him to start getting used in the first team.

6:53Because if he doesn't perform in a Man United shirt, what are we all arguing about? So that's my number one point. But number two, I think it's very, very clear here that I would almost pose the question, how much do you think Mainu is actually worth, wages-wise? Because what we've got going on here, and I remember this happening with Roy Keane, I remember this happening with Iggs, I remember happening with Rooney. This is not new. This is a player whose wage isn't what he thinks it should be. He's got two years left on his contract with the auction of another year. He's effectively got three years left on his contract, but he's on 20 grand a week.

7:30He's played in the Euros. He needs a pay rise but the pay rise he's asking for according to the athletic is around 150 to 200 grand a week well don't actually think you're worth it i i genuinely don't i don't think he is um and united are trying to build something new why would you give 150 grand a week or 200 grand a week to a player that's not actually in your team at the moment so i think that where we're at here is just there's a desperation I absolutely agree I think if you're Maynou right you're looking at this and you're going I don't have I want two things I want to play football and I don't want to earn 20 grand a week I mean imagine if you're Kobe Maynou right you're not being picked and you're also watching players that you're better than earn 10 times more than you or five times more than you.

8:29So he's got every right to want a contract and he's got every right to want to play. We've got five days left in the window. He hasn't played a minute in the first two games. So that's his position, right? So it's not beyond the realms of possibility that people close to Maynou have said to the press, yeah, we're not totally happy with what's going on. You know, we'd like to add in, you know, maybe we will need to move if we don't get what we want. Secondly, from Manchester United's point of view, why would you give him a wage that he doesn't necessarily deserve? So I think that we need to start growing up here and realising that we can't keep waking up every morning and causing World War Three and being Amrim out or Stajim out or Glazers out or whatever it is, just because Man United are being linked to selling Manu for 45 million quid.

9:24There is a contract negotiation going on here. And most of you are saying I wouldn't give Manu 125 grand, let alone 150. So are United right or wrong not to be held to ransom for a player that's not worth 150 grand a week? And ultimately, I think that is what this is all about. But you know what? That's a little bit boring for the mainstream to discuss. Man United and Mainu are locked in a wage battle over a new contract. Far better to say Mainu's looking to leave in the last few days of the window. I don't buy it at all. This is absolutely simple to read. If Man United put 150 grand a week on the table now, I reckon Mainu signs it.

10:08But Man United don't want to do that. They don't want him to leave either. And sometimes, as we were talking about last night, it's not extremities. it's not you're for sale or you're getting a contract it's we want to give you a new contract on the terms we agree and I understand why Maynou wants a good contract as well and if Kobe Maynou decides he wants to leave Manchester United why are Man United the victim that sorry why Man United the offender if Maynou says I'm not signing a contract less than 150 grand a week are you telling me we should be there going well that's Amorim and Sir Jim's fault if we don't give him 150 grand a week we're the we're the pits you know we're the worst but you look on social media and man united are the villain and i'm sort of like going i want may new to play for man united when people were talking about a midfield two of may new and belaba i can see the balance i can see it working for years i think it's very very exciting but you can't give somebody 150 grand a week based on maybe at some point in the future you might get to play with this brilliant midfielder.

11:15And I think that's where the hypocrisy comes in. This underwritten, not hidden agenda against the club and the manager is to just jump on Manu's side and take a pop at Amirim and the club. But then the hypocrisy hits in because most of those people who are doing that are saying, well, I wouldn't give him 150 grand a week. We shouldn't be held to ransom. This is just wages. This is a wages debate. I guarantee you Man United are not going to sell him. I guarantee you Manu doesn't want to go and I guarantee you there's going to be a new deal at some point in the next few months. This is just posturing for wages and nothing more.

11:52There is not going to be a football club that's going to walk in and give us 60 million for Manu and give him 150 grand a week. There's no club that's going to do it now. So all we've really left with is there's no deal that's going to happen. and all we're left with is paper talk of a player that would leave. And he's not going to leave because he doesn't want to leave. He wants the contract that he feels he deserves. And Man United want to pay the wages that they think is deserved. And once the window closes, he can't go anywhere and the contract negotiations will carry on. The best thing for Mainu is to play a game for Manchester United, which is exactly what's going to happen tonight.

12:33As for£45 million, I mean, are you having a laugh? I mean, it even goes on to say Man United would take 45 million. It might take even less in the next few days. Can I just explain that? The only reason Man United would take 45 million pounds or less would be if Manu was on strike saying he wants to go. Alexander Izak style. You know, how can his price drop from 45 to below over the next few days when he's got three years left on his contract? The only reason his price can drop is if United are desperate to sell, which we are not desperate to sell. If anything, we're desperate to keep because we can't replace.

13:17So there's some wizardry going on here. I'd love to know who's giving the information to the Athletic. And I would suspect I know probably where it is coming from. But, you know, we don't want to, you know, really make it about that because ultimately I like Manu. I understand his frustrations and he obviously needs a pay rise but I also understand Man United's position that they don't want to pay stupid wages for players that haven't justified it the obvious thing is to give him a pay rise to 100 grand a week and then stick in a you know goal post in 18 months where it can be reviewed if he's played a certain amount of games you know it's obvious isn't it and that's what you need to do but if the player doesn't want to sign that, then what do you do?

14:01There's only one more scenario I would throw out. And it's one that concerned me in January that we haven't spoken about before. Take it away from Maynou, take it away from Amorim and put it in the lap of the Glazers. And to Jim, I suppose, look at what Chelsea did with Conor Gallagher. Homegrown talent, pure profit. Look at the debt, look at the reserve you know look at the debt repayments look at the stadium look at all the money we owe are idiots taking it completely wrong and missing what this is all about completely how can it be about Amarim how can it be about Mainu if it's the club seeing 45 million of pure profit and to hell with the consequences that could be a theory but on the other hand you're still leaving yourself with three midfielders doesn't make sense to me either so even that hole we're selling the youth because it's pure profit to get money into the club to service the debt that would make no sense because we would have to use the main new money to buy a player and that's probably another theory is would we sell menu to get the labor in which case 50-50 yesterday would do it or wouldn't do it.

15:22I wouldn't do it. If the club did it, it'd be very, very brave. I mean, seriously, going into this season, would you swap Manu out for Balaba? I wouldn't, but Ruben Amrin might and a manager must be allowed to manage. But I don't see it. I don't see it happening at all. As I said yesterday, I think there's a lot of nonsense being put out there because, you know, let's be clear, United's final week of the transfer window is boring you know we might get Lemens by the end of the window we might loan Rasmus by the end of the window we might sell Ganacho for half his value by the end of the window Anthony might get his loan deal by the end of the window it's a dead duck this final week of the window is a dead duck it's boring and Lemens as much as we need a goalkeeper probably isn't the goalkeeper most people wanted so it's not an exciting end to the window you've got arsenal who you thought were finished in the window spending 50 million pounds on a left-sided defender from leberkusen you've got liverpool waiting to break the british transfer record when they've already bought a load of good players and probably getting a sense back as well city are lining up donnarumma and rodrigo after a good window and chelsea after a good window we're looking at three more players whereas man united are looking at a young goalkeeper and loaning off some players to get a bit of money in so our window's pretty shit at the moment what better way than to generate a story that's not actually going to happen and i think that's my stance around manu i think it genuinely i'll be very very surprised if i'm not pre-right on this new deal will happen very very soon and this is about posturing and let's not forget if the window closes and we haven't signed a midfielder what better way to boost the fan base than to go oh you know manu was going to leave here he is in the third kit like a new signing so i'm not worried about it.

17:13And look, as much as I like some of the journalists that are writing these stories, ultimately they have a boss. They have a boss and that boss has demands. And those demands are, we need interest in our newspaper. What better way to get interest in your newspaper than to write stories about Maynou going for 45 million and being interested in leaving United in the next few days it's preposterous it won't happen um and mainly will play tonight and he will play well and they know that and well i can't guarantee he's going to play well but hopefully he will play well um let me just somebody said what's the likelihood of belabor well i will come on to that but i just want to grab some of your comments because obviously i've spoken for a long time there but i think as i said at the start of the video i think look you've got to open your mind You're intelligent people.

18:04You consume football on a daily basis. You're Manchester United fans, most of you. Think. Don't follow the news. Think for yourself. That's what we're all about here. Think for yourself. What reality sees Manu go for 45 million in the last few days of the window and United have three midfielders? What reality? There isn't a reality. What reality where Manu wants 200 grand a week, Man United want to pay him 100 grand a week. And the posturing is going on in the final two days of the window because Maynou knows when the window closes, his position weakens. While the window's open, his position is strong in a contract negotiation.

18:43And it surprises me that people can't figure this out because the way I see it is rumours of leaving, rumours of being unsettled in contract negotiations help you get your wage up. when the window closes and you can't go anywhere that brings your wage down so i think this is the last few days of the window posturing intelligently from may news camp to try and get the wage they want and i see it as nothing more than that and i tell you what i guarantee these journalists who are writing this are intelligent enough to know it as well but they've got a story to sell um this go says we're not buying a midfielder are we it's criminal um i will come back to that about the labour in a minute.

19:24Let me just catch up. Thanks for everyone who's tuning in this morning. Please do smash a like and subscribe. Get your comments in. I want to get your thoughts on all of this. I just see nonsense. I just see noise. I just see posturing. I don't see reality. And let's be very, very clear. If there is any chance of Maynou leading in the next few days, he won't be playing tonight. And he will be playing tonight. Only 45 for Maynou, but won't accept 30 for Ganacho, says Roro. I love Will. you say that is ganacho a chelsea player yet i love bruno but the problem is until he leaves we will never have balance in the middle of the park allowing cobi to flourish it's sad says sean i think it's a balance in the force same thing thank you sean follower of the way says did you how did you get over beckham being pushed out of the club i have a hard time accepting rasmus potentially leaving and being pushed out good question um probably more for an eight o 'clock show to go into it in more depth but I mean Beckham was a role model for many of us but you know I used to have the same hair and everything I loved Beckham you know what honestly it's a very good point to bring in today Manchester United were ridiculously successful and I loved David Beckham but you know what hand on heart the truth I trusted Sir Alice Ferguson we all did and I didn't want Beckham to go and I didn't want Van Nisselrooy to go and I didn't want Yapstam to go but I didn't want Ince, Kanchelskis and Hughes to go either.

20:50And I think when Sir Alex did that after the 95-96, was it 94-95 season, he got rid of Kanchelskis, Hughes and Ince and brought the kids through. He can't win anything with kids and we won the double. And I think from that point, you realised you were dealing with greatness and I just backed the manager. But I didn't want Beckham to go. The trouble with today is No manager at Man United gets the time to build greatness, so they don't get the backing from the fans, and fans will pick players over managers. Ultimately, if Robben Amrum came out after the game today and said, I want to sell Manu and buy the labour, I'd back him.

21:30I'd back him because if you don't back a manager, what are you? We don't want to be player FC. It's not helped us. I'd be absolutely distraught if Manu left Man United. but if we replaced him with a Wharton or a Balaba and that's what Amram wants to do, I'd back it because if you're not backing a manager, what's the point? But I don't see that happening, by the way. I'm only talking in the context of Beckham. He's had one decent breakthrough year. Since then, he can't get into the team, 50 to 80K until he proves he can be a consistent starter in the team. Well, I think the interesting thing is, James, if The Athletic are saying that Maynou wants around 200 grand a week and there was a lot of papers saying it in January as well, he's got to be able to negotiate that down because he's not worth 200 grand a week.

22:17What is he worth? A lot of you say around 100. I'd go up to 125 just to get it resolved. But the reality is he's not a first team player. He's potentially a very good player, but he's not a first team player. And if you give him 125 grand a week, Amarin might look at it and go, why are we giving a bench player 125 grand a week? I need him to be hungry i want him to be hungry to get in the team i want him to be working harder than everyone else to get in the team you give him 125 grand a week and he might take the foot off the pedal it's not like that hasn't happened with other players so united might be offering him 80 grand and saying we'll we'll we'll we'll pump in a few like um incentives in there and mainly might be going forget it but the trouble in life is like is that you're in a difficult position at the united because imagine I've got an employee and I'm paying them 30 grand a year and they're not doing everything I want them to do.

23:12And I say, you know what? I will give you 40 grand a year, but I want you to do this, this and this. And then they knock on the door and they go, well, I think I'm worth more than that. And you go, well, I don't think you are. I think you can be worth that, but you've got to prove it to me. So I'm going to give you 30 grand a year and then we'll review it in 12 months. And if you've done what I want you to do, I will knock it up to 40. And then they go, I'm leaving. You go, what do you mean? well John down the road is going to pay me 35 grand a week now and I'm going to prove you wrong and you're sort of stuck in a position where you go well they are going to get an increase they are going to be motivated to prove me wrong but why couldn't they stay here and prove me wrong and welcome to the world of life because this happens a lot you're you're justifiably saying I will give you that wage but you've got to prove it because I don't want to give you that wage and then you don't prove it and then they go well I'll go somewhere else there and I'll prove it there And you sort of like go, well, what am I supposed to do?

24:04Because I'm still running the risk if I give you that wage that you won't prove it to me, but you will do it elsewhere. And it's difficult, isn't it? We all know why he wants that much, if true, because we're the prats that put Bruno Rashford, Anthony Sancho Maguire on stupid wages, says Shane. What has Maynud done to deserve 150k a week as structural mastery? Well, I sort of agree with the previous comment. There are players in the United team who are on very good money. Harry Maguire's on 190. Anthony's on 200. Luke Shaw's on around 175, I think. Mason Mounts on 250. So, you know, I understand both sides.

24:41I really do. But ultimately, what you want is what I said there. You want a player that's motivated on a wage where they're not going to take their foot off the pedal. And therefore, you want to go as low as you can, incentivised. could be one of the strands of transfers agent using other clubs this time to get a pay rise out of united says roro roro commented today absolutely spot on we should use the five strands of transfers went with with scenarios like this so we have the five strands of transfers on the united stand in the transfer window and they are that when a story comes out there's basically five reasons for it one is totally true two is total bullshit three it's the club using united to generate interest from other clubs four it's the agent of the player using united to generate interest from other clubs or five it's the agent of the player using other clubs to get a contract where they are and i you're right it could be five it probably is five here mainly you could get a hat trick and he won't start saturday says robert mcmahon mac i mean robert thinks he's the manager and sometimes he is correct um and you might be right robert um you know i want mainu to play tonight and tear it up and then i want him to start on saturday and then if he plays shit we know the problem is as much as i said last night on the preview that bruno shouldn't start this game i'm absolutely convinced this morning that bruno will start this game for a multitude of reasons if you're a manager and you're a player that you have took a risk on chucking into a midfield position that no one thinks you should play and you've turned down 100 million pounds for would you drop him against grimsby or would you allow him to play where he can stat pad and you can go look at how good he is and i i thought about this morning i thought there's no way bruno's getting dropped for this game because he needs bruno to play well so he can go this is why I pick him, why would you not pick him in a game where he's going to play well?

26:46So I think he probably will play, which begs the question where Maynou will play. Because I don't believe that story, by the way, that United are looking for a midfielder to replace Maynou. I think that was a massive leap of opinion, because what it basically was saying in The Athletic is that Man United are looking for a midfielder to play alongside Agate or Casemiro, which when you listen to Amorim, he said that Maynou is Bruno's backup. So therefore it would be Maynou's replacement. And that's a massive leap of faith around, you know, guesswork. I think the midfielder we're looking for is actually to play next to Bruno, which would mean it's a midfielder to play with Maynou.

27:31I don't believe we're looking for a midfielder. I don't think Belaber was being brought in to replace Bruno. I think he was being brought in to play with Bruno. And therefore, Maynou, if Bruno doesn't play. I would pay no more than 100k a week for Maynou, says Bees. 80k with performance bonus is his first, says John. I agree. Patrick Lynch says, I'm feeling a sense of deja vu. Manager under pressure because last season and because of a poor start. Talks of favouritism, discontent from sections of the fan base. We're back on the hamster wheel. of the media says patrick yeah i'm not back on it patrick i don't think you're back on it and i think everybody else who's back on it is a is an idiot and i don't think most of you are i think you i think you're intelligent enough to see what's going on um but you know they're never going to stop trying to get you on that hamster wheel i'm not jumping on it at all um 150k a week for five years which includes uh bonuses says captain what you think we should give that uh if If Yoros on 115, then Kobe is worth no more than 20k, says Liam.

28:31Why homegrown international experience midfield versus defense wages? Thank you very much for that, Liam. Bram has gifted a membership. Thank you, Bram. I feel this is a negotiation strategy by his agent to get a good contract. 100%. Danny Esther, who's been a member for 11 months. CC, welcome to Members Club. Thank you for getting your badge in. We really appreciate people who support the club and get involved. mark in my opinion the only reason if we sell kobe is because of an underlying injury nobody knows about similar to mount i find it hard to understand otherwise may know out belabor in is still a disgrace is robert cormack my stance selling menu ahead of both bruno and casimira is the biggest problem for me says captain t1 i think he raised a good point as well like you know people people are using this story with no substance to basically push an agenda and that agenda will be predominantly Amri Mauters.

29:22They will be using this nonsense, knowing in their head it's nonsense, but still using it as a reason to go, this is why I'm Amri Maut. Casemiro's gone in a year, Bruno's gone in a year, and you're going to sell Maynou now, leaving Agate as our only midfielder next summer. Obviously, we'd have to buy two or three as well, but where does the money come from from that for a club that's not got a lot of money? um on top of that if you let main you go now you've only got three midfielders for a whole season so it's all over all that rubbish disturbing people are equating being open to leaving with wanting to leave last night i was open to doing the dishes but i didn't want to do them says paul exactly and also the context the niche of it paul isn't it i'm open to leaving the united stands if certain situations happen.

30:11I don't want to leave the United stands. I am open to it if certain things happen. And those certain things could be numerous, forced upon me, potentially improvements, but I don't want to. And that's what people need to understand. There is no transfer request from Maynou. There is no transfer listing from Manchester United. It is all posturing around a contract. If we sell Mania, I lose faith in everything, says Witzers. I wouldn't be just a life lesson before we move on. I wouldn't sell your soul without reading the instructions. And I don't know whether anyone's ever quoted that before, but I think in 100 years time, I will go down as a philosopher on that.

31:00It will be Goldbridge 2025. 25, don't sell your soul without reading the instructions. Life lesson. And I'll tell you why. What if Manu leaves Man United this week and it goes into absolute meltdown and everybody blames Sir Jim and Amarim? And then next week it comes out that Manu had been a real problem ever since Ineos came in. He'd refused to sign a contract unless he was given 200 grand a week. He was a disruptive influence around the midfield, wasn't cutting the work in in training, and basically forced the move in the last few days. Would you lose faith in the club then, or would you go, well, they've done the right thing?

31:48And I'm obviously not saying that that's the case. There's no evidence of that. In fact, quite the contrary. Mania is well-liked within the club. He works hard in training. We don't know what the wages are being offered. And I want him to do well at United. But I think there are people out there that without knowing anything, just put their flags to the mast and nail it there going, and you're like, you don't know the instructions. And you're there just preaching. And you've just got to be very, very careful because we're all prawns in a game of chess, or should I say corns? And we don't always know the facts.

32:24And I think you sometimes have to just take a deep breath and go, Right, they're saying that, they're saying that, that doesn't make sense. They're contradicting each other. They're saying nothing. They're saying nothing. It's all here. Bit of experience having had these issues in the past. Okay, it's really clear to me. No one's put him up for sale. No one's put a transfer request in. There's only five days left in the window. If we did sell him, we'd have to go and buy someone, which we don't have time to do. We've only got four midfielders. He wants a huge pay increase. Man United don't want to pay it.

32:55I know what's going on here. this is contract negotiations in public veiled with he might leave these journalists shawnek says these journalists are crooks the way amram has been taking the media head on in the presser media will definitely try to plant stories on him thank you shawnek i don't know why some fans forget when casemiro didn't get a peep of time under amram same happening with maynew patience is needed says leon yeah we didn't pick casemiro for two months i see chelsea was told 70 million now there is a belief we will accept 45 give me chelsea telling the world we would accept 25 for canache vibes as glenn c familiarity breeds content that's the story for maynew united has offered ridiculous wages to players who have not performed so sanjit uh give him 75k a week and a 25k or 50k match bonus slazy says there's no way they sell many before bruno says juror uh Fraz has just tuned in.

33:49Did Mark, you did talk me out of being Amrimao. It only makes sense to back him and give a coach more than a couple of seasons to build something, says Follower. Is Bruno the heart surgery that needs to happen, says Ray. And have you seen Anana to West Ham on loan, says Addy. And West Ham didn't think things could get any worse. In fact, can I just edit? I'm live. That would be a great move. In fact, why loan him? like you know it can seed in goals all over the place it will be the best 60 million pounds you ever spend an honoring goal for west ham you could get in the champions league like why aren't you doing it jeremy says i predict bruno starts today and maybe comes on around 60th minute bruno definitely needs to be benched for this game but not gonna happen thank you jeremy and we're not buying a midfielder okay right i'll come back to that comment which i started off with just catching up on some of your super chats there.

34:42So in relation to a midfielder, we're not buying a midfielder. That was the question. In relation to Balaba, could we do anything around Balaba, a late Balaba bid? Because ultimately, he's the only midfielder we've spoken to in the last month. We're still Wednesday lunchtime, not talking to any midfielder. This window closes on Monday at seven o 'clock. We are 24 hours away from a long weekend. We've all done it. You go away on Thursday night, you come back Monday night. The transfer window is basically a long weekend tomorrow. That's all that's left. We're not talking to a midfielder. Can Lang United do a deal for a decent midfielder in a long weekend?

35:26No. No. You know, I have to be honest. No. It doesn't mean it can't happen, but come on, reality bikes you we're not doing a yulmland or a wharton or a belaber or an ederson we're not doing or a stiller or whoever else we're not doing a deal like that in five days we we just we just can't if we don't work like that like man city could do it we can't do it you'd have to you'd have to knock on the door of sporting and say what's your price for yulmland around 65 million They're 65 million. You haven't even got time to negotiate. So you would have to knock on the door and give them basically, within reason, what they want.

36:11You can't negotiate the price down because you haven't got time to negotiate the price down. So no, we can't do it is the answer. We can't do it. We want to do it. That's absolutely nailed on. We do want a midfielder in the context of Wilcox and Barada and Amorim. they want a midfielder it was part of the brief they need it it'd be very interesting to be a fly on the wall next week when they have the debrief chat um because who gets the blame for it i find it hard to blame barrada and wilcox because ultimately i think ganacho has screwed us over and if he'd have been gone a few weeks ago you'd have that money and it's hard to predict how much you're going to get i mean somebody said to me last night you couldn't even go and buy a player based on getting 30 million for ganacho and i was like why and they said because what if chelsea just go fuck it you know we don't have to get him um there's a lot of rumors around ganacho at the moment i'm not going to bring them in i'm not going to bring them into the show because we want to sell him but there's a lot of stuff around ganacho at the moment and if chelsea delve into those rumors and find it's not worth the hassle what if chelsea pull out you know you can't go and spend And even if Canaccio went for 30 million, which is a sham, you can't even go and spend that 30 million because he's not gone yet.

37:33So I do have sympathy with Wilcox and Verrarder because these players that should have gone, that would have given us the money, you can't guarantee it. You don't know what you're getting for Antoni. You don't, you know, Sancho's not going to go. You don't definitely know you're going to get even 30 for Canaccio. So I think that's hindered us massively. There is a desire to get a midfielder. There's no doubt about it. But, you know, I haven't given up hope. I'm not saying the window's over after Lamens. I'm guessing it is, but I'm hoping it's not because we definitely want one. But come on, five days left in the window.

38:09We're not in a position to do anything now, really. And, you know, people talk about loan deals. My opinion on loan deals, people talk about Sebios from Real Madrid and other people. You know, I'm sure Renato Sanchez will get mentioned next or whatever. honestly if you want to go and get a door stop that's absolutely fine i wanted a new door um you know why why should i get excited about a lone midfielder you know it's not that's not what liverpool are doing that's not what arsenal are doing that's not what spurs are going to do like this was meant to be a transformative season we're meant to be building something for the future what does a loan deal do they're cheap they're a stop gap so i don't think uh beggars can't be choosers you're right tricks and obviously you take it over nothing and i'm not saying i wouldn't but what i am saying is i'm not getting excited about a loan deal it's it should be way more than that um so look i think it's very difficult to be a midfielder however if a midfielder was to leave i still believe if a midfielder was to leave we would make a big move so and in fairness I have to go back to our source back in May he was right on Inanna was right about De Lapp was right about Gannaccio was right about Jaro starting the final and a few other things I forget about the stuff we've been told around a midfielder back in May we got told that to bring the midfielder in two midfielders have got to go well actually what they said is to bring the midfielder in, one of, Maynou, Ugarte, Maynou and Bruno, got to go.

39:54And he also said, Collier will go this summer on loan or permanently. Well, loan Collier has gone. And here we are. And I think if you wanted to try for a Belaber late bid or a Wharton or a Yulmland, one of Casemiro, Bruno and Manu has got to go. And I don't see it happening. I don't think there's time to do it. I really, really don't. And I would also say as well, finally, I've got no doubt that Manu will stay at Man United at all. And Bruno. But if we sold Bruno now or Manu now to try and get Belaber now, you would have to sit here as a United fan, no matter how distraught or excited you were by that, you would have to sit here and go, what's going on at this football club?

40:48Like, why would you sell a player this late in the window to bring in a player you needed in the summer? It's illogical. They would expose themselves as chaotic and we're trying not to do that. And it would be chaotic to go and try and sell a Bruno or a Manu or a, well, they won't get rid of Casemiro, They'd love to get rid of Casemiro, by the way. Casemiro is the player they'd love to get rid of. That's the one they've wanted to get rid of for two years. And you know what? There's just so many problems at this football club and there's so many stories at this football club. And obviously people like Anthony, Ganacho and Sancho sitting on their arse still is shameful.

41:29But Casemiro is not wanted and he's running his contract down. And I'm not saying he's in any way, shape or form as bad as Anthony or anybody else. but Casemiro has been told to find a club and he's running his contract down on 350 grand a week so we have got problems at this football club um certainly the difference with Casemiro is he turns up for training and he works hard he signs a contract and he sees that contract as his contract and it's his right to do what he wants with it as he is right to do with it he was given the contract and he can run it down he can do that um it was only five six weeks ago you was hands-on as getting yokarez and then belieber uh no debu i think you're mixing up your go back to bed wake up properly have a cup of coffee and then do your research i was not saying five or six weeks ago that we were getting yokarez and belieber uh mark was 90 he was going to get the pair mate i've just right i've just read rage bait let's ignore it these people will never stop will they they will never stop try just go and enjoy your life stop trying no one's gonna listen to you i shouldn't have read it would a bruno oh here we go visco's done a super chat on this would a bruno injury be a blessing in disguise to try new things i don't wish injury on anyone oh no it wouldn't be a blessing in disguise because we only have three midfielders.

42:55I don't want any injuries this year. As I've said, I might be in the minority. I want Rasmus to stay. I want Rasmus to stay because it's not my money. The more options I've got, the better. Part of me wishes Collier had stayed now. I don't want to be left short in any area. So yeah, I don't want a Bruno injury. Do you think Lemans will be first choice keeper and go straight into the teams as Akshay? I think he has to. I really do. I think he has to go straight into the team. There are rumours in Turkey that Manchester are out of the race for Le Mens. Don't make it any worse, V05. Should have sold Bruno Mark.

43:37100 million seems lovely right now, says Alex. It would have said, look, you know, yeah, should have, would have, could have. But I sit on the right side of history on that one, I believe. At the start of June, I said, take the money. We spoke it through. Wasn't anything against Bruno. know it was sacrificial to get money into the club for a player that was being played out of position that 100 million pounds would give us a goalkeeper and a midfielder so i still we should have done it we didn't do it we've got to move on i love i like menu but if he wants more than 100k can move along says david this isn't player fc i had enough of rashford's and sancho's and ganachos um thank you david when has united negotiated a price down for a player says sanchet and given his potential and our track record at developing youth shouldn't we loan him so that he can develop better and then ready for first team levels as Vibble.

44:25What, Maynou? We can't loan Maynou. We've only got four midfielders. Ronald says Maynou probably wants to be on that World Cup playing next year, but knows he's not going to be when he's not playing regularly. Exactly. Exactly, Ronald. But on the flip side of that, you know, I would say to Maynou, why are you posturing to leave to get in the England World Cup squad? Man United finished 15th last year. Apparently, I'm playing a player out of position. The two other midfielders aren't good enough. You want to go to the World Cup? What better place to go to the World Cup than get into a weak Man United midfield and play every week?

45:03So I'd sort of be saying to that to him, I'd be like, you want to leave to get in an England squad? There's an opportunity right here. Why aren't you grabbing it? I'm sure Ruben said something like, I have big plans for him. Maybe he's doing a pet with Foden, but I still don't get it. It's his Callum. Thank you very much to that. That's OK. Let me just have a quick look what's going on. Any other news, Mark? There is other news. But really, I just try not to bore people with the same old rubbish, really. There's a little bit coming in from Sky. United are expecting offers for Mania amid growing interest from Homan in Europe.

45:40Mania is open to leaving, but has not transmitted that stance to the club. United are happy with him and are not actively looking to let him go. They are very unlikely to consider alone. Yeah, I mean, it's just like, you know, it's just, it's the same old shit. Let's be completely honest. It's the same old stuff. And I think it's posturing. I want to play football or I'll consider leaving. I want to, I want to contract or I'll consider leaving. I don't even have a problem with it. I really don't. The interesting thing tonight is going to be whether...

46:22Do you think Indy Kaler pays people? I think Indy Kaler must pay people. Even Rio Ferdinand's replying to tweets now saying, good work, bro. I saw another journalist today going, they've definitely got news. It's almost like, if you've got news, just grow credibly like David Ornstein or Fabrizio did. Why are you retweeting verification tweets from Rio who's saying, good work, bro? I mean, it comes across to me that you're paying people because they're always retweeting mentions from celebrities or journalists. It doesn't come across as natural to me. It doesn't come across as natural to me. I might be wrong.

47:04We've mentioned them on a few stories, so it's not like they're saying the total shit, but it's almost like, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Man United remain in talks with Antwerp for Le Mens, worth 17.3 million. However, United will not get involved in a bidding award regarding Galatasaray, who've made a higher offer. It's thought Le Mens wants to come to Old Trafford, but United are looking at other keepers. There is still a chance there will not be an arrival in the window. Oh, God. Hey, Sky, don't worry. Don't ruin your day. Don't ruin your day. It is coming in from Sky.

47:40Just have a quick look. Are you worried about the goalkeeper situation?

47:47Look, I'm long enough in the tooth to know that you can never say never when it comes to Manchester United. It makes me feel a little bit sick not having a midfielder. it makes me vomit thinking we might not have a um goalkeeper as well well look the transfer window closes on monday night at seven o 'clock we'll have the normal transfer deadline day shows but at eight o 'clock i'm doing a special well it's eight o 'clock show um and on that eight o 'clock show it writes itself not only will we reacting to what's happened on transfer deadline day but also will be reacting to what's happened in the transfer window and throughout the summer many people have said i rate the window out of this i what do you rate it out of it's the five and it could drop to a four that you know people are going can it go higher it can drop it can drop i think people need to realize like i give it a five out of ten and it could go to a four um If Anthony ends up loaning himself to Betis and we're paying half the wages, if Ganacho ends up staying or going for ridiculously cheap, if Sancho just is still sat on his arse and we don't get a goalkeeper and we don't get a midfielder, I'm sorry, that's coming down to a four.

49:10So people are like, how do we get that five up? What if it drops to a four? And I don't think anybody should be under any illusions that when it comes to Man United in the transfer window, things can get worse. um so look with the goalkeeping situation we can't go into the season with anana and biinder like biinder is dracula on crosses and anana's his brother like every team is just going to win corners and and and kamalas and that's before you start talking about their actual goalkeeping ability so we have to get a goalkeeper in i think there's a bit of scaremongering as well we've all I think the overarching thing for me is, and I'm sure it's the same for you, is that we've got to be an island.

49:57We're Manchester United fans. We're a community and we've got to be an island and we've almost got to preach it every day. They're trying to deflect. They're trying to break us up. They're trying to use us all the time. I believe we'll sign lamens. I believe we'll sign lamens. But who does it benefit if we start to panic that we might not? It benefits the person who's putting it out there, but it also benefits the people who are in benefits United as well. Oh, it's not going to happen. Oh, it happened on transfer deadline day. Oh, we didn't get a midfielder, but we did get a goalkeeper. So I think that you've got to be very wary of those sort of things, of course.

50:40But I think we'll get him. To be honest, in relation to Le Mens, I'm not even thinking about it. It's not it's not even a here we go. I'm excited about. I'm like, let's get him in. He should be here now. It would have been a perfect time. I mean, has anybody thought about it like that? Like, tonight would have been a great game for him to have his first game. Low pressure. So, yeah, I think that for me is where I'm sort of at with it, if I'm being completely honest. But I just feel as a United fan, you know, we deserve a medal every year because I don't think any other club in the Premier League, and I've spoken to local fans and Villa fans about it and I don't know whether it's envy or sympathy but they have said to me no you know your club is always in the news and I've said I know sometimes you're better off just going about your business just as a fan base but we never we never get left alone we're always the subject of the call-in there's always a headline about someone there's always dressing room leaks that we're constantly in the news and it's draining it really is draining as a fan you're constantly being attacked and it's you know it's becoming increasingly harder for united to grow something from ever ever declining levels it's harder to climb out when people are constantly throwing stones at you and loses medals his happy life yeah maybe ten hog was here and he wasn't implementing his iac system but amur is consistent with his style now it's amurim out we can be so fickle says netflix and chill Wilwell.

52:12Thank you very much for that. What do you think of Tanaka from Leeds? I think he looks half decent. Could be a very cheap player. I know he's injured, Callum. It's the long game not to replace both Casemiro and Bruno and Belaber and Maynou. That's what I was hoping for and believe it's the plan and it makes sense, says Damian. Do you think Amrim should move this to a 3-5-2 with an additional midfielder? Enchanted Angel, thank you for being a member for 18 months. i've sort of checked out on formation conversation because he's not going to change his formation i hate our fan base during the transfer windows is mgt would have bruno injure done that one okay i'm gonna get a cup of tea i'm gonna get a cup of tea all i would say is hold firm now i would stay the course stay the course stop being distracted and when you hear a news story don't ignore all of it and focus on some of it and also when you hear a new story just take a beat and go who does this benefit where's it come from because all i see is mainu and man united posturing over a new contract i don't see a sale i don't see a transfer request i don't see a transfer listing and tonight i just want to see him performing in a man united shirt um we're back at two watch along tonight very excited about that hopefully we get to see some players who haven't played some minutes and I'm not just talking about Maino, I want to see Leon play at left wing back as well, I think he's a very exciting player and I want to see a good performance, I want to be there at 10 o 'clock tonight talking about positivity and confidence Transfer window is going to take care of itself Yeah, let's not go about there Take care everyone, speak to you in a bit and thank you very much for watching Don't forget, oh Football Terrace is live now if you want to go and continue the conversation with Terry on Football Terrace

54:01Thank you.