174: Double INJURY Blow! Onana TRANSFER Unlikely!

0:00Plevdi, good morning and welcome to The United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news as we discuss two major injury setbacks. We'll give you the details on that. Also, Anana leaving Manchester United to Saudi is not as likely as some people are reporting this morning. We've also got a very interesting comment from Anthony to discuss. Should we have brought Danny Welbeck in? That's not something I've spoken about yet, but we missed it yesterday. there's an update on Kone and where he fits in to Manchester United and also a very interesting statement coming out of Nice and how they're open to doing deals with Man United but United have not opened that door yet 18 months in remember Ineos own Nice and as we've seen with other clubs Girona Man City you can have this back and forth there are interesting players at Nice and United have not opened that door yet should we have opened that door is there actually anyone from niece that could have come here.

0:55Maybe Harry Amas could have gone there. We'll talk about that too. But look, welcome to the show this morning. Let us know where you're watching from, whether you're watching live or in the comments. Quite a few to get through this morning. It is the new show. If you want conversation and debate, get involved. But remember, eight o 'clock is where we're working through some really good stuff. What a show last night. And I've got more stuff for us tonight. But let's hit the news. I'm going to start off with injuries because the Inanna a story to Saudi. A lot of people are leading on that this morning.

1:22It's speculative at best that he will be going to Saudi in the next couple of weeks. We will talk about that though. But I think injuries is where I want to start. We've got an update coming in. Remember, this is, you know, it's good information. We had on the Sunday that Yoro and Deleu would be fit for the Europa League final, then Yoro would start before everybody else. So same source again. What's the update on what's going on with injuries. What we can tell you this morning is that in relation to Kunya, it could be good news. The hamstring injury that we saw him take on Saturday wasn't as bad as feared.

1:58He was walking more freely than expected. They are still going to assess that because hamstrings can be, obviously, different grade tears, etc. But there's hope that he will be involved for the Man City game at this moment. So, look, we're going to have to see how he responds over the coming days to light training, gym work, stretching, whatever. But there is a hope that he'll be involved in the Man City game. Now, that does come with a warning that Manchester United are now very precautionary with their players. If the computer says no, the computer says no. So Cunha starting the Manchester derby would need to be, over the next eight days, really back in intense training very, very quickly, preparing for that game with no risk.

2:44So, you know, take what you think. Take what you... The way I take from that is that, yeah, he could be back for the Man City game, but if there's any lingering doubts or if he's not actually back hard training until next week, they're probably not going to start him. So Kunja, quite positive, but let's not start putting him in the team for the Manchester Derby. Mason Mount, more of a concern. So Reuben Amrim himself saying after the game that Mason Mount played for half an hour with an issue in the game against Burnley, was subbed off at halftime. The latest on Mason Mount is that this is more of a concern than Kunja.

3:21They're talking maybe three weeks, which would put him out of the derby, probably out of the Chelsea game. Obviously, with Mason Mount, there's a big history there and there's a big concern there. And they will be very, very lenient in bringing him back because as we've seen with Mason Mount over the last two years, an injury that, well, look, we'll do well to get updates on Mason Mount is what I'm saying, because I remember him getting injured last year and it was sort of like he was out for five months and you're like, you're not getting any updates. But with Mason Mount, they are looking at the moment around three weeks, which would take it to the Chelsea game.

3:57Now, of course, he might respond well to treatment. He might be saying, I'm fine. The physio might say, there's no issue there. Let's get him back. But this ain't Cunha. This ain't, you know, Embermo, you know, a player with a good track record. This is a player with a bad track record. We literally bought Mbermo and Cunha because we don't trust Mason Mount's injury record. We clearly trust him as a player. He's been playing a lot, but we don't trust his injury record. So look, I ain't going to sit here and say Mason Mount's going to be back in three weeks. If he's back on the bench for the Manchester Derby, I'll be stunned.

4:30I'll be very happy. If we don't see him again until after the next international break, I won't be surprised. But at the moment, they're saying major concern around him because of his history. And they're trying to understand why he's injured again and what the issue is. So they're saying about three weeks, but certainly I wouldn't be putting him involved in the Manchester derby. And then the third one, Kennedy says Mount will be back with Martinez. So with Martinez, this is, wow. You know, can you miss something you never expected? I think Mason Mount's a major blow. I think the second major blow and Kunja sounds like it could be okay.

5:04It just might be laptop says no for the derby. but with martinez i'm quite surprised by this update this morning martinez is not back for this international break he he was projected to be back he went on the u.s tour he was projected to be back now he has been involved in training and on the grass and everything like that but he's not at a point where it's you know you know hot they call it you know what do they call it non-contact non-contact training where you know you're not tackling and stuff so he's not at a point in his training that is close to a return. And obviously, this is a very significant injury.

5:40So I'm not going to sit here ranting and raving about it because you have got to be very, very careful with this. It's a very significant injury. But what they're talking about at the moment is that certainly not Chelsea, certainly not Manchester Derby, maybe back end of the international break. But at that point, why would you do it when you could have another two weeks? So they're talking about mid-October now after the next international break for Martinez. So while the time is back and a long break and if not that realistically it's probably going to be the third international break you know back end of november before he's anywhere near match fits but but look you know we can't complain about this it was a bad injury and ultimately he's probably going to miss it's probably going to be two or three months into this season before we see martinez back properly but the thing about martinez is and this is you know the the message that's coming out is that with martinez he's had two very significant injuries now nobody's saying he was brought back early or prematurely but there cannot be any rushing of him back because if he comes back and gets another one then you're at that point now where he's missed his three season they have to they've got to be short with Martinez and maybe that's why the initial prognosis of after the September international break has now been pushed back because he is not going to be back in this after this international break so three significant injury updates there two of them concerning in relation to we've got some really difficult games coming up and we may not have Mount or Martinez maybe we're not expecting Martinez Kunya let's wait and see um okay get your comments in on that that's sort of very good sourced information and you know that's where we are with that obviously you know if maybe if we get a bit of a shock great but do you expect look what I'm saying is I don't expect Mount and Kunya to start in the Manchester derby I just don't think Man United's physio and fitness apart and work like that um let's talk about an honor next so bit of story coming in this morning around an honor that manchester united um may offload an honor to the saudi pro league as part of a shake-up in their goalkeeping options with saudi transfer window open until september the 23rd um this is from pito rourke at sports pito who works at footy insider um look i wouldn't say it's a great source uh with all due respect but that's not my point um what we're getting around is is that would manchester united let anana go to saudi before september the 23rd well it's a it's a bit like you know knocking on the door of a guy who wants a ps5 and hasn't got one and saying do you want a ps5 is you know it'd be weird to say no you're going to say yes please um i could have done an analogy about margot robbie and you'd be married there but i just think it's not fair but the point is what i was gonna say like you're in a relationship you know you're getting a bit bored after 10 years margot robbie says do you fancy a date you know you're gonna say yes or no but some people would actually would say no and and that would be me as well loyal but i'd take the ps5 the point is if saudi came knocking on the door for an honor they ain't gonna go no but what i would also say is this perception that the saudis are stupid needs to stop they have got eyes and they're not just this cash cow to take shit players and and that's the problem and what we're getting is is that the chances of anana going to saudi in the next three weeks are unlikely because anana to saudi was a possibility at the start of the year and anana They didn't want to do it.

9:16And the Saudis are very, very protective of what they're trying to build. And they're not just going to go, oh, you're shit now. You're desperate now. You've lost your place now. Here's the money. They're trying to build something. Pratt man says epic. I was watching it again for three minutes last night. I even put it on the Instagram at Goldbridge Mark. It's an amazing edit. It's just very addictive. That's why I keep going Pratt man. Anyway, enough of that. People have too much time on their hands. The point I'm making is that there's a lot of people getting excited about Inanna and there's a lot of people going, he's going to go to Saudi.

9:49And what we're getting is, you know, hold your horses a minute. They're not stupid. They have got TVs. They did see what happened against Grimsby. They do realise he's shit. And they're not going to give Man United a get out of jail card. And they're not going to go to Inanna and say, you can have 300 grand a week tax free. And they're not going to give Man United 40 million quid. They're not stupid. it like they're more than happy to give us 90 million for bruno and give him 600 grand a week because he's a bloody good player but they're not that stupid cash cow that people think they are so there's a load of people getting excited this morning about an honor to saudi but if that deal happens it will be it's a very reduced rate and there's a lot there's a big if there it's like would they want to do that now they might do it but they're very much putting the you know sand on the fire trying to put it out at the moment because they're like look we're not we're not coming in with 50 million pounds and 400 grand a week for an honor that's you know we're trying to build something here of the saudi world cup and in the next four years we've just we've just reinvested in ronaldo we wanted bruno we're looking at salah in the future we're not going to be just going and spending money on players just to help the premier league out and help man united out so it's listed as unlikely at the moment um and the big problem that we've got and luke says self loan him out i think a loan deal is about as good as it gets because the big problem that we've got is that unless there's a ceo of a football club out there that stevie wonder with a blindfold on they've all seen what he is like the world is a small place social media it's a small place and very very unlikely that we get a scenario where um somebody is that stupid to um to do the deal so you know unlikely is what's listed at the moment but i'd definitely rather keep biinder than anana what worries me is what we were talking about last night is that if lamenz is not going to play in the manchester derby and he's not ready then you've got to start Beinder or Inanna and I'd rather I mean I don't know at the moment let me just run a poll on this because I'm just thinking out loud either or who would you rather be our goalkeeper at the moment and look honestly I don't think it should be a landslide Beinder I think there's a case to say that Inanna is a better goalkeeper but right here right now I would go with Beinder let me just catch up on I don't want to do a goal what have i got what have i got a goal for i don't want a bloody goal i'm gonna have a what people are saying um you're a prat mark simple as that lewis you're not allowed to call me a prat it's i'm sorry lewis um i'll let you off this one time but you cannot use you know ice man cannot have ice used on him spider-man cannot cannot be shot with webs you know i started pratt you can't use it on me it doesn't work you can't go you're a pratt it's my thing you can't do it sorry um you can't do it but you know kit says as is andre andana the worst man united signing in premier league history he single-handedly cost the club around 150 million in revenue through the mistakes in the champions league group stage uh and the final dropped places in the league and now the car about cup i don't like to look at it like that chippy um but i I suppose you could analyze it and say, look, I project frustration through banter.

13:22So when I'm going Pratt man, it's the nicest thing I can say without absolutely being vicious. So I don't really like that. Obviously, you've seen watch-alongs. I do lose it. But I try to project banter because it's just a better way than being absolutely vicious about it. But if we're being honest, we spend a lot of time, a lot of money and a lot of passion on our football club. And it does impact our mood. It's not a laugh. It's not a charity. It's an investment in time and stress. And, you know, I don't sit there when we're losing 7-0 Anfield and go, oh, it's only a game. So if you're a contributor to that, you're an issue.

14:04and you know we do live in a world in 2025 where apparently you can't have an opinion well you bloody well can and i'm sorry obviously i don't like saying andrea nana is shit but the fact is he is and the fact is he's caused us a lot of problems and you know that's fine you didn't walk into old trafford and force your way and you've been bought and it's on the club to move you out but you do raise a good point if you analyze it i think he made a big mistake in the April League final and we lost 1-0. I think he made multiple mistakes last season, certainly in his first Champions League year. And when you're really deep it, we let David De Gea leave on free to spend£50 million on him.

14:44So in answer to your question, I think yes, he probably is one of the worst Man United signings in our history. I mean, I think Alexi Sanchez and Jadon Sancho do push him, but the problem with Inanna is he's actually contributed on the pitch to some issues. Can you rank all Premier League transfer windows, says Mantem? Not on here, because it's not That's Football, but I will drop a controversial take for you here. I'll probably get clipped up, editors. A lot of us took the mickey out of Newcastle's transfer window this season. I think they had a better transfer window than us, because ultimately it's about when the transfer window closes.

15:24And obviously you can mark Newcastle down because they did everything late and they've only got two points from nine. But I look at Newcastle and I've watched their games. They are a good team. They're just missing a striker. When you look at their summer transfer window, they've brought in a backup goalkeeper in Ramsdale for Pope, which I think is intelligent. They've brought in a good centre-back from AC Milan. They've brought in Jacob Ramsey into a midfield that's already very good. They've got Alanga on the right-hand side, which gives them support for Murphy. And then they've got Volta Meder and Wizza.

15:56So they've made six signings in a really balanced summer transfer window. Manchester United, Kunja, Mbormo and Szczesko are good. We don't know whether Le Mendes is a starter yet and we didn't get a midfielder. Newcastle had a better transfer window than Man United. And people aren't talking about it because Newcastle were getting laughed at through the summer for not doing business. But when you look at their summer in its entirety, it's a far better and more balanced window than us, in my opinion. Is that a hot take or do you agree? good question there from Mantam first super chat greetings from Bulgaria do you wish we had Berbatov as a striker now well I wouldn't say no to Berbatov whether I'd start him or not I wouldn't say no Alex great show this morning good comments coming in Jack Thompson says Ian Acho at Celtic I would have liked him as a United backup striker since there was rumours of us having Danny Welbeck at age 35 I want to do a poll on that

16:49good morning Mark the overlap is once again with Amrim out and the system doesn't work It frustrated me that no one was talking about the lack of support Amarim has got. What a load of shite. I haven't seen it, mate. So maybe I can watch it today and we can come back at eight o 'clock unless somebody wants to give me a summary of what they've said, because I haven't seen it. So I don't know. I mean, look, all I would say is, and I'm talking blind here, is that anybody that's criticising Ruben Amarim, there has to be context. Like Aston Villa have got one point from nine. Newcastle have got two points from nine.

17:27Pep Guardiola's lost two out of three. Are they under pressure to be sacked? Man City had a bad year last year. Villa didn't get back in the Champions League. So why are they not under any scrutiny? I mean, Eddie Howe was playing like prime Stoke against Liverpool with 10 men. But Reuben Amrim, who didn't get a midfielder, is now the people are talking about his system again. I mean, it's boring. It's just boring. him. All I'm going to say about the system is that this is the system he plays. This is the formation he plays. And if you give him the players, it'll work. If you give him Grabenberch and Alexi McAllister, that midfield too will work.

18:04If you give him Tonali and Bruno G, that midfield will work. You give him Zubbermendi and Declan Rice, that midfield will work. You give him Casemiro and Bruno, it ain't going to work. So system formations, I'm bored of it. it's the players look at grimsby last week grimsby's not about formation and system if players on one two three hundred grand a week need a bloody formation and system to beat grimsby you've got something very very wrong it's players anybody who talks about system and formation in my opinion is really exposing themselves as an agenda because the previous manager played four three three and got sacked with most of the same players and they were rubbish and people you know you know what makes me laugh is that we've we've not even come full circle yet because i remember about 18 months ago actually i tell a lie i remember two years ago all of you lot were talking about our midfield being wide open and about 18 months ago carrigo and his white trainers was going i'm trouble with that man united side is the midfield you could park a bloody you could park a bloody lorry through it and it was like basically what you lot had been saying for the previous six months that was a 4-3-3 and Carrigg is there going the midfield the midfield right you'd been talking about it for six months a year later 18 months later the midfield is still crap but we're now blaming a system but the midfield was the problem in the 4-3-3 I find it incredible I find it crazy I look I don't really like it I don't really like this flip-flop analysis of football I prefer a longer term view.

19:44And that's why I love the community. And that's why I remember conversations from two years ago, 18 months ago, three weeks ago. And I remember your comments probably more than I do mine. And we, two years ago, were talking about the midfield being wide open because of the personnel. You know, Casamiro, Bruno, Manu, Agate, they're still here. As a four, they don't work, however you combine them. I think some of them individually are really good. I think Bruno as a 10 is brilliant. I think Agate in the right system would work. I think Manu in the right system would work. But in midfield twos and as a three, they're not the right combination.

20:20So this was the case with a 4-3-3. We were getting apps. I remember 10 hogs, 4-3-3, and we were getting absolutely run through in the midfield. And here we are now getting run through in the midfield and people are going, it's the system, it's the formation. Forgetting we played a 4-3-3 with these players and it didn't work. It's not the solid system in the formation. it's the players it always has been um okay 82 of you would have gone with biinder in goal over inana that's a bloody landslide your second poll this morning if you wish to take up the mission is would you have signed well back yes or no start the poll um so we were linked with well back i can't remember where the source was i will come back to that i will come back to that but i want to talk about something else first um just on the midfield this is coming in from the Manchester evening news this morning that's uh Sekou Kone is now the sixth choice midfielder at first team level possibly fifth with mount much better in an attacking role Kone will likely gain senior squad experience and could debut this season um

21:32look how long is a piece of string I mean I could have wrote that I could have spoken about it this morning that is not ruben amram speaking to the manchester evening news that is a speculative bit of journalism probably based on a brief chat with a source like um i mean i mean honestly who if kone is not sixth choice midfielder who is that's what i would say i mean i mean it could even be a guest piece of journalism i don't know but logically kone is sixth choice midfielder because there isn't anybody else that can be the sixth choice midfielder. So I know a lot of us are like, is there a secret weapon in that midfield?

22:11And that's why we've not bought a midfielder. But I don't necessarily think there is. I don't think Amram is sat there going, I'm starting Kone in the Manchester derby and this player is going to be the next Roy Keane. And, you know, I don't think that's the plan. I'd like it to be part of the plan, but I don't think we feel he is ready because he didn't get a minute on the US tour. and you think about Maynew's breakthrough season under Ten Hag, he was starting games on the US Tour. I mean, he got injured straight away, but he was clearly in the mindset of the manager in the summer. I think Ten Hag on his summer holidays was like, this is the year of Maynew.

22:49Then he got injured, but then he still brought him back in in the November. I don't think Amerim has got Kone in his first team plans because I think he would have used him on the Tour. hopefully across the season he can force his way into the team because we bloody need somebody but i don't feel like he's there in amram's mind at the moment to be straight into the team i think the interesting thing is and you know we can probably discuss it more on an eight o 'clock show in fact we will do it tonight but i think the interesting question is what is amram's starting midfielder what is what is amram's midfield you look at newcastle tonali joel linton bruno g if they're fit you look at arsenal odegaard zimamendi rice if they're fit what's in amram's mind are you telling me that we've started the season and you don't know what his midfield two is i think i think he does know um i think i know who he should be i think i know who it will be um maybe we can well i think it's casimiro and bruno to be honest i think it is i think agate and menu can change that but i think it's bruno and casimiro and again why did we not buy a midfielder it's crazy um just on Anthony I think this one might be quite interesting for you got loads so many so much stuff at the moment right okay this is a direct quote from Anthony now he did I mean I don't know whether you want to talk about it he did say about you know how I think he was crying wasn't he he was saying how difficult it was at Manchester United not being able to train with the team etc um I'll pass judgment on that at the moment but this is what he had to say about Bayern Munich.

24:26He said, I spoke to Bayern Munich the day before everything was almost done with Betis. I was offered 7 million euros net per year, which is double my salary. I rejected Bayern and told them I gave my word to Betis and I'll stick to my word out of respect, affection and knowing that I'm happy here. I feel calm making this choice. A lot of people have said, oh, I admire that about Anthony. A little bit like my hot tape last night about grimsby um i sort of think perhaps my loyalty is with manchester united manchester united is my family manchester united is my team the best interests of manchester united are what i care about and you know if anthony or his people or his fans have got a problem with that well the explanation is there my loyalty is to manchester united that is my team um if you don't want to go to Bayern Munich that's absolutely up to you and you know you could have earned more money there and maybe you should have gone there but you know to be upset that Man United didn't let you train with the first team I haven't got a problem with it if you sit there for two months saying I only want to go to Betis I only want to go to Betis I only want to go to Betis I imagine it was very very frustrating for Amrim and Barada and Wilcox that they were getting offers in for more money than Betis.

25:48And he was saying, no, no, no, I only want Betis. So look, Anthony has served his own purposes and he's got every right to do what he did. But as a United fan, I've got every right to say, well, that didn't serve the best interests at Manchester United. You know, you sat and waited to the very end of the window to go to a club that can't afford you and force the price down for us. And that's what you did. And you got what you wanted. And Betis fans and Anthony fans will go, well, you know what, why shouldn't he do that? I agree. I actually agree. Why shouldn't he do that? He's got every right to sit there for two months and get the deal he wants.

26:23But still have Man United got every right to say, you're not going on the tour, you're not part of the training, and ultimately, you're not serving the best interests of Manchester United. We could have got a very good deal out of two or three other clubs that he didn't want to go to. To moan about not being training with Man United, Who do you think you are, mate? You're on 200 grand a week for the last three... Well, not 200... Sorry, no, he's not on 200 grand a week. You've been paid very well at Man United for three years. You cost us£80 million and you think we should let you train whilst you wait to go to Betis.

26:59No, players need to realise that the gravy train days at Man United are over. I respect Amarin, Barada and Wilcox on their stance with Garnaccio, Anthony Sancho and Malassia to say, no we're not a bloody holiday camp where you can train with everybody else who actually is here to work for the next few years i don't want you near this squad when you're not part of it and you're actually not respecting the club you're sat here waiting to get a cheap deal to chelsea or bettis so look absolutely you know in many ways it's admirable that he's turned down by munich and more money to go to Betis out of loyalty.

27:39But you can't sit there and complain that you weren't allowed to train with the United team for two months like you were treated badly. You've got your interests. Amram's got his interests. You running around training, doing your fidget spinner is not going to help what we're trying to build. And I think Reuben Amram deserves far more credit than he's been given for his unique and groundbreaking stance of actually saying, no, the bomb squad is not going to be part of training and is not going to be on tour. Because Ten Hag a year ago had to do that with Sancho and he'd lost his job by October.

28:15I think it's very important as a manager that you go with the squad that you go with and you don't want any distractions. So look, it's worked out for him in the end, but I don't think he can be miserable about not being allowed to train. You basically sat there and refused anything else and Betis couldn't afford you. So it was always going to go to the end of the window. You're not training with the first team. Simple as that. Okay, I wanted to talk about that. Let's go to Welbeck. Oh, interesting here. So we were linked with a deal with Danny Welbeck on transfer deadline day. These sort of stories always seem to come out.

28:49Would you have signed Danny Welbeck? 64 % of you say no. 36 % of you say yes. It's a tough one. I mean, it's a really tough one because I think having Danny Welbeck right now would make me far more comfortable than what we actually have got. If Sheshko got injured, Danny Welbeck is actually a player that plays on the last man and is a forward. I don't think Xerxes is and Obi isn't anywhere near the team at the moment. So the old adage of something is better than nothing would certainly work in relation to Danny Welbeck. I agree with that. but I'd rather we didn't sell Rasmus you know we had a striker that could do a job from the bench if we needed them so I wouldn't have really seen the point in bringing Danny Welbeck in on a ridiculously short-term deal because he's not going to be here in a year or two why not just keep Rasmus for a year so my point would have been I'd have kept Rasmus and not brought Danny Welbeck in but my honest answer is I'd rather have Rasmus or Welbeck than what we've got which is basically shash go a kid and a number 10 so i suppose that explains it quite well uh thanks everyone who's tuning in this morning appreciate as always uh hi mark i was a long life chelsea supporter until i discovered you and your community now i'm all about united keep up the great work oh jensen you are you you know what you are living to the stereotype because it's always chelsea fans who apparently move between clubs but um look don't don't be not supporting chelsea you should stay with the club that you support but doesn't mean you can't be part of our community and it's not as odd as you think there's a lot of people who watch the united stand who don't support manchester united because we do such a good such a good job as a community so that's a credit to all of you a lot of people just like tuning in because it's a it's a great community so well done to everybody anthony is another entitled crying perhaps is alexander why work for United Welbeck could have been our plan B after 75 minutes says Tillak, that was Alexander John as well, calling Anthony entitled Crying Pratt Jason Shields says play 4-4-2, bloody hell I feel like Michael J Fox in the DeLorean, I've gone back to 1985 let me read it Jason says, play 4-4-2 Cungurin and Bermond on the wings like Ribery and Robben, Bruno up with Seshko so he can do what he wants.

31:19Beliba with Mania, we've got a good defence. I don't think it's going to work in the modern day, but I'd probably pay money to go and watch it. Jensen says, I've done that one. He did it to Ajax as well. Anthony's his weekend bus. Oh yeah, he did. He did. He went on strike, didn't he? Chin says he's not the only player to train alone. He's just acting up to buy the Betis fans' heart even more. He should go to Chelsea and see what training alone means. To be fair, Anana don't pick himself or score goals, says class of 99. And James Jones says it ain't the system. The midfield is a problem, but one of the biggest problems is United can't seem to score, says James Jones.

31:59I think that will happen. I think we will start to score more goals. I'm not big on stats, but one thing that did impress me was the fact that we've got more touches in the box than anybody else in the Premier League this season, which is a big statement, but also it's a huge improvement from the last few years. We are getting in and around the box a lot more than we have done in previous years. So with the quality of players we've got, Mason Mount, Inanna, not Inanna. Inanna's not quality in the box, whichever box it is, in a footballing sense. I don't know about anything else. My point is Mount in the box is good.

32:37Embermo, Cunha, hopefully Sheshko, maybe Ahmad. You know, we've got players who can start scoring goals. We need to reduce the amount of shots from distance. That's always been our weakness. Where's Ruben's choice to keep Bruno? So that's on him, so Simply Red. Yeah, but we can't, you know what? Just going back on that, because it's going to be a recurring theme, Simply Red. We can't, like, right. I've said this so many times. I'm old enough to have had multiple bosses. I'm also old enough and grown up from a kid to an adult to have been surrounded by, you know, adults, family members, et cetera, who are your superiors, not in the sense that they already are around, but they are older than you.

33:20So you learn a lot from people who have, I suppose, power over you, whether it's work or when you're growing up with adults, et cetera, and you're impressionable. And one of the things I learned a very long time ago is that even if you find somebody that is somebody you massively respect so i talk you know my granddad's the reason i into football and man united or i talk about a couple of people that i've worked for in my life who you know i think we're really good um bosses um every one of those people my granddad included had weaknesses because they're humans so it doesn't make them not somebody i respect or you know want to want you know want to be my boss or whatever like that.

34:07And I think when I read people talking about Bruno, it's almost like that's the reason to be Amrim out. And I'm not saying that's your reason, Simply Red, but I believe Amrim made a mistake not selling Bruno and using that money to buy a midfielder. I do. It's not a mistake yet. You can disagree with it, but it's not a mistake yet. It won't be a mistake until next May and we see where we finish. Because there may well be games like Fulham where he costs us a goal, but look at where we are in the league at the moment. We're not in the bottom half. So there may be mistakes from Bruno in the midfield, but if we finish fifth, is Amrim wrong?

34:48We might be pulling our hair out in his indiscipline and his mistakes, but if we finish fifth because other things go well, that's what I mean. I think this decision cannot be a reason to beat Amrim with, because we won't know the solution until the end of the season i'm sure it's going to be a conversation that keeps coming up but i believe it was a mistake but how big that mistake is going to be may not be big enough to keep hitting him with a stick about it you know how long to go until the kitchen's ready good luck to seb for school return are there free agents we should consider says raja um the kitchen renovation is a long renovation because it's um it's the i'm not very good but the membrane that goes on the floor takes it only dries at a millimeter a day so i'll be up here on the morning show for a few couple of weeks yet but um i'll tell you what when it's ready i'll do a live show from there because hopefully it's going to look nice um i've basically done it for i'm basically doing it for i'm not doing it i am going to do a live cooking from gold cooking with goldridge for it um and that'll be good fun um what you'd say are there any free agents i don't think there are any rajah it's normally this time of year when people start talking about free agents i haven't seen any to be fair um seth says here is my view on i want to talk about this nice thing we're not going to run out of time it's only 25 to 11 the nice thing's really good um seth win says here is my view on the goalkeeper emmy versus lamenz if we bring in lamenz before the u.s tour we can see whether he is good or bad then go for emmy if he's bad we're gambling on two areas of the pitch, says Seth.

36:22Look, everybody I've spoken to, journalists, etc., have said that what happened on Sunday was that Royal Antwerp had been messing around like Brentford did for weeks. So United were adamant that they weren't going to pay what Royal Antwerp wanted. On Sunday, they made a play for Emi Martinez because certain people in the club always wanted him now if you go back to mid-july i actually had a theory that we would go for emmy martinez late in the window and it looked like that was going to happen now villa quoted a price that was believed to be 10 million more maybe even more but 10 million at least more than what the price was for laments villa were talking to us about sancho they were willing to do a deal with Martinez and they were probably going to go for Le Mets.

37:18Roy Lansworth then said, okay, we'll take the deal. And Man United had a decision to make and they took the deal. I don't know whether it was as simple as, well, that was the deal we're always going to do, so let's stick with it. Or I don't know whether it was like a price thing. But look, emmy martinez got left out of the bill a game on sunday night there was definitely something going to happen but effectively the negotiations with the belgian club had been sort of landlocked until we were going for martinez and then they sort of probably shit themselves and went let's do the deal also lemenz was very adamant that he wanted to go to manchester united so um look these things happen we go with what we've got i don't think this any you know as i said i said my piece on transfer deadline day.

38:09I don't have a problem with Lomens. There was a time where he was my choice. It was only when Martinez came into play that I felt that, look, I want a goalkeeper now. We've seen the start of the season. I want a goalkeeper now. If Lomens comes in goal straight away and does well, we're fine. If we're going to have to put up with Biinder or Inanna while he settles, obviously I would have preferred Martinez. It's a strange thing to say, but playing Inanna actually helps keep his value if we want to sell him. If he isn't playing, he can't make mistakes. We're in danger, damage control, more ways than once as patrick lynch um yeah not playing him is probably keeping his value you're right uh artax says this is what we get for trying to get grimsby out when they're low-key schooled us embarrassing i don't know what that's to do with uh pratman on your instagram had me rolling marks as mr b at goldbridge mark if you want to check that out is there anything in this story about real madrid making a bid for mayna in 2026 i've not seen the story sean um I've not seen the story, so I can't comment on it.

39:11But look, is there anything in the story that Real Madrid might bid for Yoro next summer? Is there anything in the story that Manu might go to Real Madrid next summer? It's next summer. I mean, I'm not worried about it. A year ago, Eric Ten Hag was our manager. A year ago. What happens next summer? I mean, you'll be amazed at how much will happen before then. So look, Manu's here. he now has to do the thing that Amarim wanted him to do get his head down and fight if he wants to go to the World Cup the only route is by playing well for Man United that could be to our benefit let's wait and see it finally makes sense Inanna is finally moving to being a midfielder and we have three goalkeepers and five midfielders says Kai is it just a matter of time until Amarim is gone politician FC says Suley Jr look if you're Amarim out you are going to have plenty of opportunity to scream and shout that this season we're definitely going to lose a lot of games.

40:07The question is, how resolute are Ineos in their backing of this manager? I mean, look, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about Reuben Amrim on a regular basis every time we lose a game of football. Absolutely. But what I'm not willing to do is keep discussing formation and system because it wasn't a good conversation when it started up last season. And it's certainly not a good conversation right now. um i think it's actually a big massive waste of time um and you're better than that and every analyst is better than that um but they still keep talking about it uh as i say we played 4-3-3 a year ago and we sacked a manager and the midfield the midfield's been wide open for two years um you know there's no point in you know saying why didn't we buy a midfielder because we didn't but there is absolutely every point in saying this is not a summer issue this is not a last season issue this is an issue that's been going on ever since Casemiro lost his legs after year one our midfield has been bad for two seasons two seasons our midfield's been bad and Agarte was brought in to do something about that and hasn't been able to so with you know this this problem in the midfield has been there for a long time um let me talk to you about the nice thing because i think this is really interesting so this came in from a sporting director of nice florian maris he said i spoke with manchester united during the transfer window to trying to find solutions we considered some options like asking them to buy a player and loan him to us but their priority was to sell.

41:56A bit like what Chelsea and Strasbourg have done. I don't think Manchester United's model is like that. It's only since this year that we've been able to communicate with them regularly. We're in the early stages of collaboration. So it's interesting. Look, Nice has been owned by Ineos way before Manchester United. Obviously, we're seeing these link-ups between clubs, Man City Group. They've got Girona, New York, a couple of other teams. And there is cross-pollination. They've also got a French League team, I think, in League 2, maybe League 1 now. Chelsea and Strasbourg as well. FIFA, UEFA are not really doing anything about it.

42:33So I think what Florian Maurice is saying as the sporting director of Nice is there is some link-up. And look, there is a selfish angle there, of course. We're Manchester United. Why don't we buy players and then hook them into Nice, where they can play regularly? We're not doing it. And I think the answer is very, very clear. Because to do that, again, there is an admiration from Sir Jim Radcliffe about Chelsea. But Chelsea are also doing this with Strasbourg. We've not started doing this yet. But we've not bought a midfielder. So we're never going to buy players and send them to Nice. We're not at that stage yet.

43:10We're not financially. We haven't got the liquidity to do that. I think if you're a Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, and you're looking at Champions League revenue every year, you can actually plan forward and go here's an interesting midfielder in ecuador let's buy him and loan him to strasburg where you'll get some game time your feeder club i think this is a real opportunity for manchester united you've got to have the cash liquidity to do it so look there's even people in the chat saying why would we buy a player and send them to nice i agree like we need our own players but when you think about it in the future it would be a really good thing to do and it's a shame we're not doing it now because other teams are.

43:49I look at Caicedo. Caicedo was available for£3 million when Solskjaer was here. And we said no because we didn't feel he was ready. However, that£3 million, now you could do that deal, send him to Nice. French League One side does well, comes back to us in a year or two. You've got Caicedo. It's a brilliant idea. um so that's what their sporting director is saying but united's response is we're only interesting in selling players at the moment and that would be nice buying our players not loaning them in so i think it's um i think it's a modern way of doing it but again look we're not in a position to do that we can't even fill holes in the first team so we're certainly not going to spend money loaning them to nice but as a future planning idea it'd be great we'd have bought you know two or three players for under five million from around the world and sent them to nice in two years they might be first team players for man united because when you think about it name me a list of players that have come in from the french league that are good players and that it'll be a massive list so if you could get players going to nice you know harry amas could have gone there really on loan you know tone could be there um obby could be there so you know i think there is something to do that i mean look literally stanson's just said send ob and kone there and leon so i think there's something to be done there and it's interesting that nice are saying we've spoken to man united but they're not open to doing this at the moment i think it's definitely i don't know is it a symptom of way too much to do that we haven't got time to do that i mean we've all been in that position you know we've all got sheds that you know need clearing out but it might need to be something that uh do they need a goalkeeper sister john yeah unfortunately loaning shit that's got no resale value um is not a good idea i mean vitek would have been an interesting one but obviously we've already loaned him out as well um but i thought it was very interesting because obviously again you know you sort of look at the chelseys of this world and they're hoovering up of so many players over the last two years i mean they can't be far off a two billion spend in the last two years um we're not making that volume of signings maybe we should be because we've certainly got an outlet where we can send some of these players off i wonder if sadim and inios are actually looking to sell nice which from a united point of view is not a good sign because i'd rather they i'd be much more comfortable if inios were building the and i don't agree with these by the way i i think it's anti-competitive but you know fifa and uefa don't seem to care so you should take advantage of it you know if selling hotels like chelsea have has enabled them to buy players selling the women's team has enabled them to buy players from a united point of view it can only be an advantage to utilize nice in a way that their sporting director is saying you know it's a competitive team in the french league that could be used multiple ways to benefit us i just wonder whether any else are going to sell nice which closes that door we'll have to wait and see multi-club model says cruiser yeah but i get the feeling and they're going to sell nice and i think in the modern day that's not actually utilizing it in a very intelligent way but i guess we'll have to wait and see um let me have a look here

47:16quick fact man united have played five finals in the last five years says maliki do they need a goalkeeper have done that from john uh pommy says maybe i don't understand it but how does premier league proven effect a goalkeeper makes sense if it's a field player but aren't goalkeepers similar everywhere i think it's all about lamens no not really mate i mean i i i i it's it's a good thing i mean i've seen a lot of articles about how good lamens is I've heard all sorts of stuff. And I think it's irrelevant in many ways. On one hand, he's going to be the next Courtois. On the other hand, he could be the next Anana.

47:54And the reality is we don't really know until we watch him. It's a bit like a young player, really. When a young player is scoring loads of goals in youth football, it doesn't mean they're going to do it in the Man United First team. It means they're talented and you've got a chance. But until they're given that chance, you don't know. and we've certainly seen a lot of players like that i think in relation to lemans the the big thing that i take away from it and you might not is that is the quality of the league he's playing in the same as the premier league no so if you had a goalkeeper in league one who was doing really really well and was good on crosses and was good at shot stopping does that mean if you put him in an Arsenal team is going to be really good.

48:38No, the speed of the game is quicker. The precision and speed of the cross is quicker and harder to read. And the shooting is better. So with Le Mens, until he's in the Premier League, that potential is just potential. His shot-stopping stats in the Belgian League, with all due respect, are somewhat irrelevant beyond potential because the strike power and precision will not be the same for example if you put me in goal this afternoon and you put them in the bottom corner but it's not in the bottom corner and it's not fast i've got a better chance of saving it harry kane takes it and puts it in the bottom corner with pace i'm never saving it so this is a big step up for the men's hopefully the potential is going to be there but until we see him in a man united shirt his shot stop crossing ability in the Belgian league is somewhat irrelevant.

49:36You know, I can't watch a compilation and go, oh, he's going to do great in the Premier League because I know the quality of that league's not the same. There's no doubt his potential. There's no doubt he's got a talent. And this is why I want to see him in the team ASAP so that we can start to build that talent because the only way he's going to learn is in the first team. So let's wait and see. It finally makes sense. And Arna is finally moving to Belgium. From Kai, thank you very much. than that. Appreciate it. Let me come back, have a quick look. One thing about being in this room is it actually is able to use the touchscreen, which makes it very quick to be able to look at certain things.

50:29Raul could be the next replacement for Leverkusen from Ten Hag. Everton first team doctor William Fotherby is to leave the club and join Manchester United, apparently. well what's Everton's injury record like I mean he has had to put up with Calvert-Lewin for a couple of years um look the fitness department as I've said so many times um is really really important just on Kone's injury by the way a bit of an update uh from the MEN uh he's been described as fine and will return to grass imminently so he could feature him behind closed doors friendlies against Villa during the international break so Kone is on the road to return yeah interesting there um around the new team doctor because united have become very risk averse and we were just talking about injuries at the start of the show i would expect our current physical department to say kunya don't risk him against man city they've become really risk averse because of the mistakes they've made we need to have best in class there it will make a lot of difference too many managers ten hagen amrim are subbing people off after 60 minutes because the computer tells them to there's got to be some leeway on that you know we've got to win games of football so hopefully this guy will be good um thanks for watching this morning uh we're back at two o 'clock i'm back at eight o 'clock got a great eight o 'clock show lined up for you um some really good topics um have a great day stay safe and i'll speak to you on the next one take care