175: Amorim's Transfer RAGE? More CRITICISM From Ex Players!

0:02Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldblush and this is your latest Manchester United.

0:30Manchester United this summer. It's an action-packed Thursday. We don't normally get loads on a Thursday, but there's loads to get into this morning. In fact, just a little bit of breaking news will bring you. Deleuze has withdrawn from the Portuguese squad with a muscle issue. So Deleuze has withdrawn. Don't celebrate in the chat. Someone's just gone, yes. No, that's not good news. That's not good news. Madison says, I refuse to leave the chat. careful of the mods that you know don't upset the mods i've lived out the coffee and they're in a good mood but yeah just a little bit of breaking loose the low injury we'll talk about that in a little bit because i want to get into the main bit kev kev's here kev you should be at work kev you definitely should be at work i know you should be um but look let's get into it um i want to start off talking about ruben amram's transfer rage um this is really to be honest to you i read a story this morning and i actually thought that's a load of nonsense um football transfers.com or something like that it was on it was referenced on like manchester v news or something like that and it basically said reuben amrin was left very frustrated and in a rage on monday because he wanted conor gallagher and basically sir jim radcliffe wilcox everybody said you're not having him we've persuaded Maynou to stay and Amrind was saying well I don't want players here that don't want to be here I've always been about that you know I've moved Rashford out I've moved Ganacho out and now you're telling me I've got to keep Maynou here and I want Gallagher now I read it and I went what a load of nonsense what a load of nonsense and then I just saw this from Fabrizio saying that uh what did he say uh Manchester United have had a loan proposal rejected by Atletico Madrid for Conor Gallagher.

2:18United asked for Gallagher, but no plans to let him leave on loan. And look, it's very, very clear that one true aspect is that we did want Conor Gallagher. And I thought to myself, if we did want Conor Gallagher, what was going to happen to Mainou? Like, seriously, where was Mainou? Mainou's game time would have been restricted even more because we would have had Conor Gallagher, Ugarte, Casemiro, Bruno and Mainu. Was the plan to remove Mainu and bring Gallagher in or was the plan to keep Mainu and bring Gallagher in? And I thought, you know what, we might be missing a point here and we'll never establish the truth.

2:54But what if Ruben Amrim was standing by his opinion that if you don't want to be here, you can go and he's not happy with the club? I mean, look, I don't know. We might be reading between the lines here a little bit, but Sir Jim Radcliffe has been reported by Fabrizio Romano as getting involved in this. Sky Sports this morning are saying that Jason Wilcox didn't think a midfielder was a priority. The story is developing all the time around the midfield. Now, my information has always been Ruben Amrim wants Manu at the club, Wilcox and Amrim desperately wanted a midfielder. We're now starting to get, well, is that the truth you know is that the truth would amram have let main you go on loan if he got conor gallagher did sir jim radcliffe step in and say we're not doing that we're keeping mainu in which case it could just feed into what i call the bottom feeders because they just want to feed shit into the club that you know this is this is my problem this is my problem and even we're talking about it but it is a new show it's going to get spoken about it is already if there's an inch people take a yard and my point around that is Man United have been very insistent that if you don't want to be here you can go we clearly did go for Conor Gallagher we didn't get Conor Gallagher and we forced Manu to stay do you think we had total and utter unity on that decision do you think in the boardroom Amarim Wilcox Barada Favell and Sir Jim Radcliffe sat there and went let's keep a player that doesn't want to be here let's not move for conor gallagher we clearly did move for conor gallagher so what what what what is the truth amongst all this because it will probably never come out but there could have been a scenario where amram went you know what if he doesn't want to be here and he wants to go on loan get him on loan get me conor gallagher and united went we can't get you conor gallagher so we've got to keep meaning in which case that doesn't fit with anything i've just said maybe that was what happened maybe it was as simple as if Manu wants to go on loan and it's not a sale, let's do it.

5:02Napoli, whatever, but get me Conor Gallagher. And the club's gone. We'll try that. Didn't work. You end up with Manu. In which case, that's a failure. That's a failure because you're saying, let's get somebody in as a replacement. Let him go on loan. He'll come back in a year. And we didn't get that done either. So I don't know. I don't know. Read into it what you want. But I think what we're left with is a situation where A player that wanted to go is here. A manager that maybe a little bit, you know, might have lost a bit of trust in him because of that. And we definitely 100 % tried to get another player in on transfer deadline day and we didn't.

5:43And that's where we are. And we've got to go with what we've got. I did find it quite interesting, though. We've got three of these to talk about. Some of them are very interesting. I mean, Rio Ferdinand and Michael Owen's take is just incredible. I'm going to have to wait and get through some proper news before I talk to you about that. I find it absolutely madness what they've said to do with Harry Kane again. I mean, but look, this is why communities like this are so important, because we can bounce off each other and mainly talk sense. But Louis Zahar has been talking sense. Now, I don't think Zahar is an ex-player that always talks sense, but he's been talking to the Athletic.

6:18Basically, he said, I think Cesco is going to struggle. He said, I think Cesco is going to struggle. And I think Man United have made the same mistake again. And I thought, you know what? I'm going to bring this in because it's not something we've spoken about. And although I think some ex-players just mumble rubbish a lot of the time, every now and again, you do get something quite interesting. And what he basically said was, and it's to do with the midfield, and it follows on from what we were talking there, he's another ex-player like you. You're not ex-players. But he agrees with you. He said, basically, they haven't solved the biggest issue, and that's the midfield.

6:52And I think Seshko's going to struggle because of it. because Man United have made the same mistake again. He said, when I was at Manchester United and you brought a young player in, whether it was a Wayne Rooney or whoever, you had a surrounding of experienced players there to help them and support them. And the young player tended to bring something in unpredictable, something different, so that when you were playing Everton or Fulham, they knew that you had experienced good players, but then you had this younger player that was just, you know, unpredictable. and United used that to their advantage and he you know and he's right I'm old enough to remember when Ryan Giggs came into the team and you had people like Mark Hughes and Brian McClare etc and Brian Robson and Giggs gave us that unpredictability he wasn't the player that was solving the problem he came into the team with a lot of experience around him and gave us the unpredictability the same thing happened with Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney what United do now is we throw young people in and Luis Zaha was saying look if you look at what happened with Rasmus Hoyland he was thrown in to be the solution at 20 years of age with very little experience around him and very little support Man United have gone and done it again with Sheshko and the reason he says that is because yes Kunja and Ed Bermow are good signings but they're not established Man United players and behind them there is no midfield and that is a problem so he is basically saying that he thinks that it could be a difficult job for Sheshko because if you haven't got a midfield you can't get hold of a game if you can't get hold of a game you can't create chances and if you can't create chances then the striker's going to struggle so it's an interesting take because in some ways i think the stats so far this season may um may dismiss that in the sense that we have created chances having said that we've played fulham and burnley and we didn't create many chances against arsenal so in harder games when the midfield doesn't work if it doesn't work then maybe maybe that that would be um a potential issue but look it's it's an interesting take and i'm hoping we're not going to go down that road the one thing i would say in response to that is that rasmus was 20 and had a much worse attack behind him ganacho rashford anthony whatever you think about them very selfish not really looking for the pass not really looking to create in fact i was laughing my head off the other day i like i like mika richards but he was saying to rashford in their interview you need to it was something like They did an interview, Lineker and Richards, and I think Shearer was there as well, and they were talking to Rashford.

9:26And they basically said, Mika said to Rashford, you need to shoot more or words to that effect. You know, the problem with you is you're too unselfish. I nearly fell off my chair. I went, he's unselfish. He needs to shoot more. This is the big problem with Ganacho, Rashford and Anthony. They bloody shot too much. They didn't pass enough. Anyway, it's not our problem. My point is, Rasmus came into the United team as a 20-year-old. He had one season in the Italian league and he had selfish players behind him. Szesko's coming in. He's been at Salzburg-Leipzig. He's also been there for years. He's also played Champions League for years.

10:06And he's got people like Mbermo and Cunha behind him and Bruno in the midfield and hopefully Mason Mount. So I think it's a different situation for Szesko. I think he's more experienced and I think also he's got better creators behind him. I mean, just look at what Kunja and Ndomo did in the Premier League last year. They are creative players. But I do think that the midfield will be an issue, of course, 100%. Talking about the midfield, we're going to be a bit all over the place this morning. Lots to get into, but obviously I've not even read your comments yet. But please do get your comments in.

10:41Love to hear from that. but what I do want to do is make sure that I don't miss some of this topical stuff so I've got three topical stories to talk about you then I'm going to talk about what Rio Ferdinand said because it's just laughable and then we've got a couple of other bits I want to get into but this is breaking news from Portugal Delo has left the Portugal chat camp due to muscle discomfort now we don't know the extent of this injury had an injury update yesterday morning or maybe it was the day before about Kunia and the hope that he'll be back for the Manchester derby. Martinez may not be back until the next international break and Mount could be out for anywhere up to three weeks or longer.

11:21So we'll have to wait and see. I don't think Mount will be back for the Chelsea game, but we'll see. With regards to Deleu, muscle discomfort, the thing about international breaks is people think they're long and they can be frustrating, but actually you are training with your portuguese side even if you've not been called up you're training with united so if you pull out and miss a week it doesn't automatically put the low fit for manchester derby like if he's got muscle discomfort that means he can't play he can't play he's got to come back to manchester he's got to be assessed they might say leave it for a few days he might not be able to be training for a week maybe maybe two weeks so it it does severely question the fact of what what's wrong with the low and international teams don't normally send players back for minor things because you know unless you know they might have done but ultimately international teams have their own interests at heart so what is the injury with the low and if he's out what does that mean to the first team a lot of people would be celebrating this because they don't think the low is very good i don't celebrate any injury because i think that to me, although I wouldn't start Deleu, he's still an option from the bench and he's still a very important player for Manchester United.

12:40He's certainly a very important player for Amrind, whether we agree with that or not. And what we're starting to see here, unfortunately, is what we're going to see. And it's that hidden enemy that will bite us for not maybe doing certain things in the transfer window. And that is injuries. Injury FC. We've already seen Mas Masraoui's not kicked a ball yet. Xerxi is coming back from an injury. I mean, Anana's coming back from an injury. Some would say he was still injured against Grimsby. Now we've got Deleu. We've also got Kunya and Mount. I mean, look, since the start of pre-season, Masraoui, Xerxi, Anana, Mount, Kunya, and now Deleu.

13:18Six. Six. And we didn't play in the Club World Cup. So this is something that's going to, I think, raise its head again and again and again. Further to that, we've also got this coming in from Goal. Casemiro chose to stay at Manchester United rather than move to Al Nazea to help his chances of playing at the 2026 World Cup. Look, a few people have been going on about this this morning. I don't think we're really in a position to moan about Casemiro staying now, considering we've only got four midfielders. He's suddenly a very welcome addition to our squad. However, in relation to Casemiro, he's not quite Anthony, who I've seen a quote from this morning slagging off Manchester because Sevilla is a better city.

14:06Surprise, surprise. We can all say stuff about Anthony. Let's be better. But Casemiro's certainly not Anthony sat there waiting to go to Betis or Gamacho waiting to go to Chelsea. But in a way, he is another of those players because Manchester United have been trying to sell Casemiro for two summer transfer windows now, he won't shift because he's happy to collect 300 grand a week and run the contract down to next summer where he can make a load more money. And you can say what you like about Casemiro. And I think he is a model professional, definitely. He's not a problem. He puts his matchday tweet out, whether he's getting picked or not, every matchday.

14:45And he's also a model professional who, in my opinion, is one of the great holding midfielders in the modern game history. But he's running his contract down. Absolutely. Absolutely. If he'd have had a really good offer this summer, he'd have took it because he knows that Man United want to get rid of him. So he's running his contract down and he's doing it because there's a World Cup and he's back in Ancelotti's plans. He was never going to go anywhere. So look, the story's the story. We know about it. What are we going to do about it? We've got four midfielders. Casemiro is going to be gone in the summer.

15:20We're definitely not going to renew him. It's the final year of Casemiro. I think we've just got to hope for those Europa night miracles, haven't we? Which I think are going to be hard to come by considering his lack of mobility. But this was the other thing I was going to mention. Manchester United are interested in strengthening their midfield options, but director of football, Jason Wilcox, does not see it as the top priority. That's coming in from Sky. if I was Jason Wilcox, I'd be pulling an Isaac here. I'd be threatening legal action because you don't want to get associated with that. I don't know whether you saw our video on Mats Football yesterday, but it's entitled Isaac Legal Action.

15:57So basically, the Telegraph wrote a story about Isaac saying that insiders had said that Isaac was seemingly not putting the effort in so that Newcastle didn't get Champions League football so it'd be easier for him to go. quite rightly he's threatened legal action on that um i don't think he'll go through with it but if i'm wilcox i'm bloody ringing sky up and saying do you want legal action because you don't want to be associated with that i think i think wilcox and barrada have come out of this summer i mean look you give me your opinion what do you think of wilcox i mean it's a great question what do you think about our director of football jason wilcox and our ceo omar barrada right now with the window shut in my opinion i i i actually come at it from an opinion of look it's a work in progress um i've not made my mind up yet or i still do heavily side on the fact that i think it's a very hard job to work for this ownership which is still predominantly glazer that's my stance on it i don't actually think that jason wilcox who is inexperienced himself or oh my Barada, who is new to being a CEO, I don't think they're the problem.

17:14I think they're the in-between. They're the in-betweeners, like Neil and Jay. No, they are the in-betweeners because you've got Amrim's needs and we know what they are. He wanted infielder. He wanted a goalkeeper. He wanted two number 10s. He wanted a striker and apparently he wanted a right back. You've then got the people at the top are saying, you can't have that. You can't have that. You're not doing that. We can't afford that I think Barada and Wilcox in my opinion are more Amrin I think Wilcox is a football person and look dealing with that Jason Wilcox doesn't see a midfielder as a priority if I read that and I was um Ineos or the Glazer sack him I'd go if that's my director of football he needs to be sacked so if I'm Jason Wilcox I'm getting on the phone Sky and I'm saying he's told you that because I do not want to get associated with that.

18:05I do not want to get associated with that at all. You know, if the Telegraph did a piece on me saying Mark Goldbridge thinks that Inanna should be given another chance and he's got the potential to be a United great, I normally ignore most negative things about me, but I probably would take legal advice on that and say, look, there's a line. There's a line. you can you can start with all your bloody forest fan stuff i ignore it but that's a line i'm not gonna you're not gonna cross that you know that's not banter that that's the defamation of character so i think if i'm chasing wilcox i might well unless he unless it's true in which case we've got a major problem but i from what i've heard wilcox wanted rid of amaran not amaran oh god Oh, God.

18:54The Telegraph. Wilcox, according to Goldbridge, wants, no, don't. No, Wilcox wanted rid of Inanna with Amirim and Wilcox wanted a midfielder. And let's not forget, the director of football will be massively involved in speaking to Conor Gallagher, speaking to Belaber, which we did. So, you know, it might be a rare thing for me to do, but I'm going to defend Jason Wilcox on that. I think it's a very dangerous thing to say that he didn't prioritize a midfielder because I think everybody I listen to in this chat, everybody I look at online, even the ex-players, all talk about a midfielder. So I don't believe that for one minute.

19:37And I think it's unfair. And look, you know what? Sometimes we've got to defend different people. Sometimes we've got to defend players. Sometimes we've got to defend Wilcox, Barada, as much as we defend Amorim, because I think that's a very unfair statement that against destabilizes and divides opinion. Make sure you smash the like and subscribe. Right. I've got to read you this. I've got to read you this. So this to me is a bit like that Sky Sports thing. I've just got to talk about this because I think, you know what? It's almost like, you know, like when something's bad and everybody goes, it's really bad because of this.

20:13Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really bad because of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really bad because of this. Good point. Yeah. It's really bad because of this. What? It's bad, but you're talking rubbish. Well, that's what I'm coming to here. So I read this article this morning and apparently Rio Ferdinand's done an interview with Michael Owen. I mean, that ain't doing views, I'm telling you. You've missed there with that. Michael Owen is the worst person, I think, to interview. He's very, very up his own arse. And obviously, I don't think he's Mr. Interesting, is he? But they were talking about Manchester United, right?

20:49And I can't remember whether they said it was Man United's biggest mistake or big mistake or whatever. But basically, Rio's talking to Michael Owen and he's basically saying the big mistake Man United made was not signing Harry Kane and Declan Rice. And I felt like grabbing my phone and throwing it out the window because I thought, you know what? There's so much intelligent conversation around Man United's problems. And in a way, it gets spoken about and spoken about, and it's hard for people like Sir Jim Radcliffe not to notice it. But when you get comments like that, it totally and utterly dilutes every decent argument.

21:31Because Man United's biggest mistake is not signing Harry Kane or Declan Rice because anybody with a bloody brain knows that that was impossible. But I'm like, we're having really good conversations about why we didn't buy a midfielder. Is LeMans, you know, has he been brought in quick enough? Did we prioritise the goalkeeper quick enough? Should we abort two number 10s? Are we ready for this season? You know, are teams moving away from us because we haven't got the right finances in. And then you get, you know, a very loud and credible voice saying things like Man United's biggest mistake or Man United's mistake was not signing Harry Kane and Declan Rice.

22:10Now, some of you in the chat might be going, but it's true, but it's true, but it's true, but it's not true. It's not true, is it? Because I thought we'd buried the Harry Kane to Man United mistake like a cat buries a stinky shit under some bark because it was never going to happen. Let's just talk through why Man United didn't sign Harry Kane and Declan Rice and why, you know, I cannot blame Sir Jim or Ineos. I can't blame them because they weren't here. I can't even blame Glazers for this. I can't even blame Myrta for this. Right. Harry Kane left Bayern Munich the summer we bought Mount Inanna and Rasmus.

22:48OK, now, would I have bought Harry Kane then? Perfect. I'm a cat again. Perfect. I used to be able to roll my R's. Perfect. Perfect. Prr. Prr. Prr. Prr. Prr. It's not working. It's like trying to start a bloody old Skoda. Prr. Prr. Perfect. Prr. Prr. Perfect. All right, okay. I'm annoying myself now. Hurricane would have been perfect. Absolutely perfect, right? but it's a bit like saying we should have bought Erling Haaland from Man City Manchester United never could have bought Harry Kane so anybody who says we made a massive mistake not signing Harry Kane they don't live in a real world and I'm not surprised it's come from one of those two because they don't live in reality we couldn't have signed Harry Kane for this simple reason one we would never have spent 120 million pounds on a striker and two Spurs were never going going to sell him to a Premier League club.

23:51And three, Harry Kane was never going to leave Spurs to go to a Premier League club. So how can it be a mistake on Man United's part when we couldn't afford him, Spurs wouldn't have sold him to us and Kane wouldn't have done it. Harry Kane had one year left on his contract. He didn't do a Trent. He got money for a club he loves and he went abroad to Bayern Munich. Spurs were not going to sell him to any other Premier League club and Manchester United couldn't have afforded to even put an offer on the table that might have made them flinch. So how can that be a mistake? And this annoys me slightly, not a lot, but it annoys me slightly that we are talking about real Man United issues and you get a conversation about Man United's biggest mistake was not signing Harry Kane.

24:37It's like child's play. If we bought Harry Kane, we couldn't buy Harry Kane. It was never going to happen for the reasons I've just said. As for Declan Rice, who was also mentioned, again, fantasy football. Where were we going to buy Declan Rice from? Again, it was the same summer that we bought Mount, Inanna and Rasmus. Declan Rice was never going to choose Man United over Arsenal for a start. Also, they spent£105 million on Declan Rice, which we never would have been able to afford or spent. and thirdly we didn't even buy a midfielder that summer we didn't buy a midfielder I think we got Amrabat on loan so we it wasn't a priority for Manchester United maybe it should have been but we were never in for him we never would have had that money if we're going to talk about mistakes that Manchester United have made let's talk about real mistakes let's not talk about hyperbole nonsense like Declan Rice and Harry Kane that were just never going to happen I want real conversation about the mistakes that Manchester United made and and they they are not they are not I cannot believe in 2025 people are still talking about not signing Harry Kane being a huge mistake on whose part where was this possible it never was never was right let me get into some of your comments uh before I go back to a couple of couple of topical things around the goalkeeper uh Luke Shammy says I'm a first-time caller you're a first-time chatter um but I know what you mean I'm very pro the manager I'm very afraid that we have a learner driver coach who's very good but may not have experience for the present situation becoming a martyr to wake the club up to the free fall that is happening a very profound comment there from Luke as well I think I think I think what I would agree with you Luke is that there's a lot of inexperience at Manchester United we're fully aware of that which is probably what Louis Zaha was talking about and probably what a lot of us are aware Lemens is a learner driver Yoro is a learner driver Dorgou is a learner driver Seshko is a learner driver.

26:38Ahmad is still really a learner driver. There's a lot of inexperience in that team. And our experience is on an egg timer, really. Casemiro's gone in a year. Bruno's probably gone in a year. Maguire's probably gone in a year. So there is an imbalance at the moment. Daily Hibbert says, I can see Amrim having a predicament next week after we beat City and Bruno is man of the match playing in the 10. Then Mount and Kunja return, says Daily. I mean, look, there is no guarantee. that I don't think Bruno will play as a 10 next week. I hope he does. That's where I think his best position is. I want him to play there every week.

27:13But I think his 10s next week will be Mbermo and maybe Ahmad. And then he'll put Cescou up front and Masraoui might be back to play right back. I think Bruno will be in the midfield. Deleu is... Deleu... Deleu... Not Deleu. Justin Law says, Deleu is saying injury, trying to come back early to master his spot. he doesn't want to lose it uh sadiq thanks for being a member for two months what do you think about mount playing in the midfield to sammy i think he's injured and i think putting an injury injury prone player in a high demanding position is a recipe for disaster um in some ways i think mount might be better than bruno in getting the ball into cunha's feet but i don't think he's got the stamina or the stamina or the tenacity in the tackle of a bruno and i don't think bruno's got that much tenacity in the tackle um Seth says Maynou is great but his style of play is not what Amram needs he needs a midfielder that can distribute the channels with long passes and can control the tempo says Seth oh Seth I mean I'm not saying you're wrong Seth but you know when you said distribute to the channels with long ball long passes all I can see is the horrible diagonal that I hate and answers on answers please I don't know I don't know the answer to this question why is it that Manchester United in the last six years have become obsessed I mean is it Harry Maguire the only the only thing I can think is Harry Maguire came into the team and we started doing long diagonals I mean but he's not the manager he started off under Oli it proceeded to go through Rangnuk and Ten Hag and now it's going through Amrim as well it's this obsession with the diagonal long ball and I hate it you know there's nothing more depressing in Man United's gameplay than a long diagonal from the centre-back to Deleu at left wing back so we're hitting a long diagonal to a guy who hasn't got a left foot and I think you know what as it flies through the air you can actually go and make yourself a cup of tea as well like it's just so uninspiring you know the ball's flying through the air everyone's looking at it going oh it's all right it's going to the low then he controls it and passes it back to the left back who gives it back to the center back oh i just don't like the long diagonal and it's got nothing to do with amram it's just something that sort of we used to be a team that got players in the box and crosses into the box we're now a team that's more known for a long diagonal to the fullback anyway I've never understood forcing you into the biggest club in England let's take a slow look let's let's take it slow like a date with Margot Robbie says Justin Justin Mainu wanting to start more games doesn't mean he doesn't want to be at the club says RNK

30:09I have no words I have no words I mean I don't even know if I meant to react to that I mean have we not been talking about this for 10 days now that Manu wants to leave on loan but doesn't want to leave permanently well done um media is doing what it what it always does jump on any story that makes United look like it's in chaos the media trying to distract the fans yet again says Patrick yeah and I think this is a very intelligent comment from Patrick and I wouldn't expect anything else um it's exactly that um I don't like the Jason Wilcox story at all I really don't like the story that Jason Wilcox doesn't want a midfielder or doesn't prioritize a midfielder because we know for a fact that Revan Amrim did prioritize a midfielder he spoke about it quite openly on the US tour about needing intensity and speed in the midfield and we know that we haven't got anybody who's got that we know that we went for Belaber and we know that we're going for Gallagher so we know we want a midfielder Amrim wants a midfielder you pit the manager up against the director of football, you've got your story.

31:16And the reason I wanted to talk about it is because I think you've got to get ahead of a story sometimes. I think Patrick's absolutely right. So Wilcox didn't want a midfielder, Amrim did, director of football against manager, board against manager, results not that great, all that sort of stuff. Add into the equation that if we were going for Connor Gallagher, which we did, what did that mean for Mainu. Like, what did that mean for Mainu? Add into the story that Sir Jim Radcliffe got involved in Mainu staying, have you got a conflict there? Did Amram say, let Mainu go on loan? I want Gallagher in return.

31:52And then Sir Jim said, we're not doing it. We're keeping Mainu. In which case, you've got the board getting involved in team selections again, which is why people like Jose lost their job. So look, I agree with you, Patrick. All this noise is petrol to the media. Of course it is. But the trouble about Man United is we don't get spoken to like you do certain. I mean, I'm doing a lot of things with the Bundesliga at the moment and I'm very impressed with it. I love the crowds. You know, there's some great, great football, great goals being played. And a lot of this I'm learning. What I'm not learning, and anybody who's watched this channel for a long time will know, I've always admired the way that most German clubs communicate with their fans.

32:38Now, I think this is a subject or a symptom of 50 plus one, which is where the fans own at least 50 % of the club. So the people in power are more accountable to the fans. But at Dortmund and Bayern Munich, you get spoken to on a regular basis by CEOs and sporting directors. Regularly, they communicate with their fans. obviously that will be a direct impact of being accountable to your fans because of you know 50 plus one in england it isn't a thing we are treated like mushrooms um and fed on shit and we're not respected but i think a lot if i was if i was working at manchester united i would be saying and i'd probably be hitting my head against the brick wall i would be saying to people like wilcox and barrada and radcliffe you need to speak more to the press um because there is too many gray areas for us to manage you know in communications within the club whatever because it's too many gray areas because they can write a story um on sky saying that wilcox didn't want a midfielder that's instantly going to plant a seed of you know division between amrim and Wilcox and there's nothing you can do about it because it's out there but if Wilcox does an interview you know and words it in a way where you know you don't have to say I desperately wanted a midfielder but look communicating more even if it's just to validate and support your manager will not leave that at that that air of you know potential that maybe they're not aligned you know you don't have to come out and say I didn't say that I desperately wanted a midfielder but you could come out and say look it was a challenging summer transfer window we feel we've done the best business we could do obviously we're working with Ruben we're aligned on everything and you know whilst there will be frustrations this is early part of the project you put that out everyone goes straight away he's aligned with the manager he's open to the fact that there might have been some frustrations but you know they're happily working together those sort of things should be happening more at Manchester United because it kills a lot of this stuff that Patrick is talking about um but we've never done it and we probably never will do it and jose marino said it nearly a decade ago at man united you're the manager you're the director of football you're the ceo you're the owner because no one else ever talks um anders welcome to the members club thank you very much for that thanks for getting your badge in really appreciate that john united says player pundits keep getting worse one is saying our manager only still has a job because he's attractive i couldn't believe that i couldn't believe that i did speak about it yesterday didn't i at some point i can't remember where i said it i did say it on here i couldn't believe carriga said that madness uh others are making up fake signings that were never happening crazy time says john john john john you make a great point and it's something that i wish it irritated united fans more but some of them will just go well they're right you know you know i'm and remat because in reality like we've got four points from nine we and and we only read the only game we lost in the premier league we shouldn't have lost we should be unbeaten in the premier league grimsby doesn't help us i saw a tweet from beth yesterday and she nailed it perfectly saying that if that grimsby game hadn't happened the premier league isn't terrible we did beat burnley it's early season we got the job done we should have beat fulham and we shouldn't have lost to Arsenal and we've actually created a lot of chances.

36:16The Grooms free game sort of does us in. You've got Pep Guardiola, two losses out of three. You've got Emery, who hasn't scored a goal and has got one point out of nine. And you've got Eddie Howe, who's got two points from nine. They should be the story. Man United's the story, even though we haven't started off that. Look, we finished 15th last year. Four points from nine is not the end of the world. You know, it's not the end of the world but you already know they're looking at United all the bloody time it's like last season hasn't you know hasn't ended in their head it's always Man United and look hated adored never ignored is great when you're winning but when you're trying to build something it can get quite frustrating for those of us who want to build something especially when you're trying to build something with one arm behind your back um I don't think the manager is is looked after by this club has always been my stance, internally and externally.

37:15Great point, John. Personally, I don't mind Mount in midfield, but there are two problems. He's not reliable and he cannot be paired with Bruno. That would be a disaster, says Nigel. Well, talking about our start to the season, you're 1-0 up against Fulham. And for what, 10 minutes, you've got Mount and Bruno as your midfield too. Regardless of my backing of Amrim, that was criminal and you're absolutely spot on. That never should have happened. Justin Law says, Mark, since it's an international break today, the Dallas Cowboys start the NFL season against the Eagles. Do a watch along tonight. I only do a Super Bowl watch along, mate.

37:56But I had completely forgotten that the NFL is back, which is obviously very exciting if you're into that. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on it. Melvin Wright says, Mount is too fragile. He is made of glass. thank you very much for that uh just on the goalkeeper situation as well i know i started on that last night so um anana and um the saudi pro league has been mentioned again uh this morning but i think of more interest we've had a story about biinder uh potentially going on loan to turkey as well so it looks like in relation to the goalkeeper what what what morning show was I finished with that the other day.

38:37I literally said that and I ended the show. We won't have Binder or Inanna here by the end of the international break, I don't think. One of them will be gone. Tom Heaton is here. Lemens is here. Inanna is here. And Binder is here. I know for a fact that Manchester United will not be carrying four goalkeepers. This is a club that sacked half its workforce. this is a football club that is desperately trying to save money they're not going to carry four goalkeepers financially they won't do it and and and look from a footballing point of view it's bloody ludicrous we're not in the carabao cup we've got no cup game until january we don't even need three goalkeepers let alone four so one of them is gone in the next two weeks the question is going to be which one it is i think anana makes the most sense because i think biinder may well play against man city and you don't want to play anana against man city um the bloody man city fans will be singing prat man i mean that that that that somebody said that needs to be released on on spotify because it would go into the top 10 it's everywhere um he can't he can't playing goal he can't play in goal um but so i think one of them does go on low the interesting thing is i'd keep an eye on turkey uh obviously bender is turkish um and anana has been linked there one of those two players will be moved out i just hope it's the right one i do not want the james garner effect where you remove the player that you can and not the player that you should um and when i talk about james garner to everton man united sold him because it was the only offer on the table and they needed money.

40:21It wasn't even in the top five players they wanted to get rid of, but they couldn't get rid of the five players they did want to get rid of. So I hope that we get an offer in for Inanna and we move him on. Because if we move Bihinda on, Inanna could be back in goal if Le Mendes doesn't start against Man City, which is terrifying. I mean, I don't want Bihinda in goal against Man City, but at least he's been in goal against Fulham and Burnley and Arsenal. I'd stick with Bienda over Anana every day of the week but that might be a reason why Bienda has more interest so we'll have to keep an eye on that one but as I said I said it on Monday sorry Tuesday morning show right at the end one of those goalkeepers won't be here at the international break and that is certainly the plan for Manchester United they can't carry four goalkeepers footballing set doesn't make any sense what we're going to do put three keepers on the bench i mean we normally put two keepers on the bench anyway which i find ridiculous no other football club in the premier league puts two goalkeepers on the bench do they it it's absolutely madness really um here we go um this is um this is exactly this that looks look i don't know whether this is the same source i've got it but i've just seen a tweet here reuben amram has been left frustrated this is from transfer news live reuben amram has been left frustrated with manchester united's decision to reject main news loan request the portuguese manager doesn't want to have players in his squad who make it clear they don't want to be here especially um as conor was a possible late signing so that's coming in from uh steve k who transfer expert for transfers.com caught offside i mean look it's tentative but i wouldn't be surprised um if that you know sort of grows um rob dawson says man united is still exploring exit routes for malasia i'd forgotten we still had him at the football club to be fair um just a little thing on ten hog if you're interested uh ten hog was sacked because he didn't get along with anyone at the club not even with his own staff the players didn't understand why push-ups was as important as ball work the atmosphere within the club was extremely cold the players had no idea what they were supposed to do during the match he's now considered the worst coach in the history of his club i feel bad for ten hog i do i think there's a very good coach there i just think you know look at ollie at beziktas look at marina at fenerbah chain you know it's only you're almost like cursed i don't think there is a manager that's done well after being at manchester united is that van haal's career went disappeared moise has done all right to be fair but it's um yeah it's a bit of a curse isn't it at least you get well paid i suppose that's the main thing isn't it

43:24um sorry i'm just going to go to the chat here now don't want to do push-ups are good lightning i you know if i could be asked i saw something last night that Floyd Mayweather used to do about 2 ,000 push-ups in a day. I wouldn't have the time. I wouldn't have the time.

43:45Palmer says, the real question is, if we had got... This is a great question from Palmer, actually. He said, the real question is, if we had got Conor Gallagher on loan from Madrid, do you think he would have made an impact? And I think this is the thing, isn't it? It's almost like what Patrick Lynch said. We'll get locked in on this now. Was Amarim looking to let Maynou have what he wanted and then bring Conor Gallagher in? I don't have a problem with that. Maynou wanted to go on loan, and if Amarim agreed to it and we bring Conor Gallagher in, what's the problem? However, would he have made an impact?

44:21I think Conor Gallagher is a player I've personally always liked. I couldn't understand why Chelsea got rid of him. I like Conor Gallagher. I think he's a very honest 7 out of 10 player. He's never going to be Declan Rice. He's never going to be Kimmich. But I certainly don't think he's like, you know,

44:43I'm trying to think of crap midfielders. No, you know, I think he's a good player and I think he would have helped us out. You know, he's very intense. He's very hardworking. I think fans would have liked him very quickly because I don't think we've got a midfielder like that who gets up and down the pitch. Just a very honest player. And much like we've seen with some of the Argentinian players that come in, like Martinez, I think it's quite a rarity to have a player like that who is English. I think he would have made a difference, yeah. I wouldn't have got rid of Maynud to bring him in, but I would have liked him to come in.

45:22I mean, I'd have got rid of Casemiro for him, definitely. I mean I'd have loaned Agate to Atletico Madrid as a swap deal to him yeah I wouldn't get rid of Mainu not because I don't think that Conor Gallagher could give us something that Mainu can't now but I'm more interested in Mainu in the future I don't want him to go but I definitely think he would have offered something to us definitely definitely definitely definitely and it's a shame that we didn't do anything about it I think you're always going to struggle if you're playing next to Bruno, it doesn't matter whether you're Kaiseido or Conor Gallagher or Declan Rice, you're going to struggle next to Bruno.

45:59That's a symptom. But I think Conor Gallagher would have offered something to us definitely. Bit of a revisionist history here, says Whittaker Boxing, but I was of the clear belief that United should have kept Van Nisaroy and not made the same mistake again, which is to go after another European supercoach, says Whittaker. I don't think Van Nisaroy would have worked. You look at what happened at Leicester, I thought he was sacked. too soon but van nisseroy would have been another ollie um and i don't think he would have achieved what ollie did as well i think it would have been a short term you know mistake um but where i do agree with you is i i firmly believe we shouldn't have brought amram in in november i think that was a mistake i think we've burned his reputation and i know he says oh i got to look at a load of players but you know what that's a great point and it's a shame it's at the end of the show but i will say this in the summer in the on the us tour amram spoke about how it was good to come in early because he learns about all the issues and now they can solve the issues we didn't solve the issues so why did he come in early mic drop absolutely like i never liked the idea that we brought amram in in november because he got burnt like we lost so many games he lost his aura he lost his you know new signing sort of manager thing um and unfairly people wanted him sacked before he'd even had a transfer window or a or a pre-season comes back from the summer break says you know what it was a great thing that i had that time to assess the squad even though we all know he didn't want the job till the summer but it hasn't worked has it you came in in november you got absolutely slaughtered the team got battered and maybe it would have been worth it if all the problems had been had been solved solved that you found out what's basically happened is you come in in November the team get battered the press turn on you some fans turn on you but the positive is you know that midfield shit you come back for pre-season you want a midfielder you don't get one what was the point in November to the end of the season why did why did he have to go through all that if he weren't going to solve the problem he found that we knew before he even came in so where I would agree with you is we may as well have kept Van Nistelrooy till the summer as an interim or stick with Ten Hag till the summer which is what I would have done I would say here thank you very much for the comment by the way because I never would have said it, I would question what was the point in Ineos and the Glazers' insistence that Ruben Amrim came in in November?

48:49Why were they so obsessed with it? Because any advantage from that, they ignored. The only advantage was get to know the team, find the weaknesses that we can then know about going into the summer. Well, we knew about them, goalkeeper, midfielder, we didn't do anything about them. Goalkeeper, last day of the window. So I don't know why they were so insistent that he had to take the job in November. Look, if I was employing somebody to come and work as a chef in my restaurant, which I don't have, and I could get them in six weeks early to learn about the place and everything like that, instead of bringing them in opening night, of course I would.

49:27But if I'm not going to listen to any of the learnings, what's the point? and it's a great point there well done that person who put the comments in why did they insist on coming in so early if they weren't going to give him the full backing he was going to learn he needed and it's a great point um no point at all says red and again you know you don't hear this being spoken about do you if i was sat there on one of these bloody talk shows or whatever i would be saying, you know what, in hindsight, the media have turned on Amorim. People never shut up about his system or formation. There are certain fans in the United fan base who want him gone.

50:08And all of that is because Ineos and the Glazers brought him in in November and hung him out to dry. And the only reason that would be worth it is if in the summer you listen to him and solve all the problems. And they haven't. So what was the point in that? In a way, they've burnt their own manager, haven't they, naively? And he's under huge pressure now. And look, let's hope miracles can happen. I'm firmly behind him, but it's difficult. It is difficult. And all I... Can I be the chef at the Goldbridge Arms, says Robert. If I was opening the Goldbridge Arms, you'd be a great chef, Robert.

50:50And I can't remember what I was going to say now because Robert's just took it. But I think that the big concern I have is universally, you very rarely get rival fans, media, ex-players, and you, the United fans, all agreeing. Like, I speak to a Villa fan in the street. I speak to a mate who's a Liverpool fan. I'll turn the TV on. I'll read an ex-player. I'll come on here and everybody is saying why didn't they get a midfielder spoke about Paul Scholes last night but everybody is saying why didn't they get and that is you can brief Sky Sports that Jason Wilcox didn't want one and Jason Wilcox can take one for the team but Jason Wilcox needs sacking if he thinks we didn't need a midfielder because everybody else in world football knows we needed one um and they've dropped the ball on that and the trouble is when you start losing games um i was speaking to a villa fan funnily enough and they said we've had a bad start to the season but really if we win the europa league we're back in the champions league that's all that matters and i said that's a great way to be but when you're getting smacked up at home in the league your fans will soon forget well if we win the europa league that's all that matters it's the same with united people now will be saying it's not amrim's fault he didn't get a midfielder i know you know we've said this many times before in two months time when you're getting battered at home to spurs it ain't we didn't get a midfielder it's hammer him out because people will go well you didn't get a midfielder but you should still be doing this and this is the problem the owners get away with it all the time right it's absolutely chucking it down with rain um biblical as i look out the window um but show us out the window i would show you out the window it's quite a nice view but um i've got my pants on the windowsill so it'd just be inappropriate uh i am wearing pants by the way don't worry about that uh there you go but um anyway we're back at two eight o 'clock show tonight fantastic show this morning really good conversation if you're not watching live get your comments in um yeah the only thing I would say is I don't think, and I'm going to stick to this, I don't think Amorim has said, get Manu out, get Gallagher in.

53:18I think he's just frustrated because he didn't get a midfielder, but I don't think it will be like Sir Jim overruling him. I hope not. Anyway, take care, everyone. I'll speak to you in a bit.