178: Bruno EXIT Talk! Baleba TRANSFER Truth!

0:00Hello everybody, welcome to the United Stands, I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news as Bruno Exit Talks continue. Two new injury boosts. Also, we've got what appears to be the truth around why people are talking about Balaba to Manchester United again. A big reveal from Fabrizio Romano on how he gets his transfer information, which might shock a few people as well. And of course, before I get into anything this morning, we might get a NARNA official today, maybe hopefully uh but i did watch whiplash the film last night hopefully many of you did watch it as well this is the film with the image of meinu that put out that you know people sort of got their knickers in a twist i watched the film yesterday i agree that there are so many ways when meinu puts out a picture of that drummer that you could go oh it's because he feels oppressed by his his his tutor i think it's a great film first of all i also think there are multiple ways of reading that film.

1:01I actually read it now that I've watched it, that this is a journey of obsession by a young person who will break through anything to prove everybody right. And that's what I took away from it. And I've never heard anybody actually explain the film like that because they get obsessed about the relationship between the teacher and the tutor. I actually took it, and maybe as a creative myself, I actually took that film. And I think it's always important when you watch a film to say, what's the message you take away from that? So gladiator, you know, defiance against bullies. That's what I take from that.

1:38You know, they tried to take everything from him and he won in the end. Jaws, love story between the boat and the shark. It's just misunderstood. But Whiplash, I took away the obsession to, you know, he loses a relationship because of it. You know, he loses a relationship because of it. Hurts his hands because of it. You know, defiant, determined, talented. So look, I think that's what I take away from it. But as we know, I watched the film last night. Anyway, let's get into what we really need to talk about because Maynews shut that all down yesterday as we spoke about on the show last night, which is fantastic.

2:17Thanks for all the comments on the show last night. Really good show. Got a good eight o 'clock show planned tonight as well, but that's for eight o 'clock. Let's get into the news. So very, very quickly, let's, well, I want to talk about the injuries in a moment, but let's talk about the one in, one out, which I think is on the thumbnail. So Bruno Fernandes back in the news this morning. Apparently, according to multiple sources, he's turned down three Saudi approaches across the transfer window. So three clubs approached him. As we know, Al-Halal did, Al-Nazir did, and was it Al-Etihad did as well?

2:55So that's probably the three. The story again is that Bruno turned it down after deep consideration, but the willingness is to go there next summer. What does this mean for Manchester United? Well, it's interesting to me because it's a theory that we had way before it even broke that this could happen um our theory being i mean our discussion not mine or or a source or anything like that we were sort of like bruno spent so long this story about saudi came out before the chelsea game at the end of the season and obviously we had chelsea and then the europa league final and then the villa game It encompassed about two weeks.

3:37That's a very critical point of our season. And at no point did Bruno say, I don't want to go. And it just went on for two weeks. And then when the window had closed on, I think it was when we were out in Asia, he said he was staying. Or maybe it was after that. I don't remember. He categorically, 100%, was tempted by that deal. And the real reasons why, we don't know. but some people want to say oh he turned it down he's so loyal he didn't turn it down instantly he thought it through for a while so that's the gap in the fence isn't it that makes some of us go if he'd said no instantly he's not interested in a Saudi move the fact that he even thought about it in a World Cup year shows you because to me it's a flat no at the moment next summer makes sense but now it's a flat no the fact that he thought about it I think it's inevitable that he's going to be going next summer.

4:31Now, from a Manchester United point of view, that's all I'm interested in. That'll be a lot of money coming in next summer. But also, if he's too important to go this year, what's the plan to replace him for next year? Because Casemiro's gone, Bruno's gone, Agate's a risk and Manu's not getting any game time. So I can see the Bruno plan. I can't see what the Man United plan is because if I knew I was losing Bruno in a year, you better be damn I'm sure that I'm getting a midfielder in this year as part of that integration and transition, which we don't seem to have planned for at all. I hope Maynou is going to be the heir to Bruno's throne, but who's the heir to Casemiro's throne?

5:12Who's the next captain? So I don't think we're prepped for this at all. And I would put an eye in a fly in the ointment here and say the theory of Bruno going next summer makes total sense. World Cup year wants to be in Europe World Cup Off to Saudi Huge amounts of money Bada bing, bada boom I will not be surprised if Man United drop another contract on the table next summer I'm just going to say that I will not be surprised if we drop another big contract on the table next summer I don't know why I just think I look at it and I sort of go We don't really have£100 million to go and buy Belaba We don't And actually when, you know, I just think we might just drop something else on the table for Bruno to try and get him to stay because I don't think we look like a club at the moment that's preparing for the departure of Casemiro and Bruno who could well be our starting midfield in our biggest game of the season a week today.

6:14So look, I'll reserve judgments on it, definitely understand the theory and the obviousness of Bruno going to Saudi next year, it looks very much like that will happen. But that doesn't mean Man United will allow it to happen. They should have allowed it to happen this summer. I'm not going to bore everybody and go back over that. But yeah, I just don't know. And look, I think also in relation to Belaba last night, there was some very dubious low-level source talking about Man United and Belaber in January. I went and did a bit of research and I've probably figured out where that source is claiming the information from without shouting it out.

6:57There was a newsletter that went out from Fabrizio Romano yesterday morning talking about Belaber and basically saying things like Man United were really, you know, not excited. That's not the word. Man United were really impressed by how Belaber wanted to come to Manchester United without European football. And he's definitely still a target high on the list for Manchester United. So I think people have read Romano's newsletter and decided to go, oh, I'm going to try and claim this that I know that he's going to sign in January, which obviously nobody knows because Brighton have said he's not for sale.

7:33And Man United haven't got the money. Otherwise, they would have done it last week. So, look, I mean, Fabrizio putting it in a newsletter that Man United were impressed that Belaber would come to us without European football is all well and good. Remember that that's past its sell by date. That's like a yogurt in your fridge that's very, very appealing. But when you pick it up, it's a month out of date. You can't eat it. You can't eat it. It's no good anymore. so what Belaba wanted a month ago maybe not what he wants in January maybe not what he wants next summer so I think it's great that Belaba was willing to come to Manchester United but I also think it's sad that we missed the opportunity I don't buy into this whole well we can just put it off for a year there's no guarantee that Gehi will end up at Liverpool another club might come in now and get him on a free.

8:30Real Madrid might go in for him and offer him more money. So just because you got close-ish to doing a deal doesn't mean that you will still be able to do the deal in a year's time. And as for the January talk, I mean, come on, let's get real here. Man United don't do business in January. We don't. I know we got Dorgu and I know Bruno came in, but we don't strategically planned to do business in January. And yet we've still got a section of our fan base that think and talk and write articles about January transfers. You're mugs. You may as well get a mug on your bloody head. You're a mug. Like Man United purposely, publicly shoot down the January transfer window saying it's not really a value place to do business.

9:19So we're not going to go and do a business in January. We have to focus on what we've got and next summer will take care of itself. This time last year, nobody was talking about people like Embermo to Man United or Cunha to Man United or Sheshko to Man United. We weren't. People might have been saying, I'd like Cunha at Man United, but we weren't going, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Next summer, we're going to get Embermo, Kunja and Seshko. It's a long time. And I don't know whether people use it as a little bit of a comfort blanket that, oh yeah, next summer we're going to go and get Belaba, but we're not.

9:57We don't know that. We are what we are. We are where we are. And yeah, Belaba would have come to Man United without European football. Fabrizio is absolutely correct. But that was then. Here is now. We can't start planning for that. And even if you do plan for that, what about the game next week without him? What about the game next month without him? What about Christmas without him? What about March without him? There's no point talking about what might happen next summer, because a lot of things might happen to this football club before that that are going to be way more relevant. Maliki actually has just thrown something in I would have completely forgotten about, so I'll just jump to this very quickly.

10:34Maliki says, apparently Barcelona might send Rashford back early. I was meant to discuss this last night, but we ran out of time. So I'm very, very grateful to Maliki for bringing this in. Marcus Rash had played for England yesterday, last night. They're shit. He wasn't man of the match, but he's in the England squad and he's at Barcelona. This is very good for Manchester United because we need Rashford gone. He needs to be gone. And playing games for England and Barcelona are about as good as it can get from a Man United point of view and their vision of moving Marcus Rashford on. However, there are these constant stories that, you know, he's not impressing at Barcelona.

11:13I almost think, what do people expect? The kid hasn't actually played good football for about two years. Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in the world. They are in the Champions League. They did win La Liga. You think dropping Marcus Rashford into that Barcelona setup is going to start playing like Prime Rashford. We've only seen Prime Rashford for about six months in the last four years. He had that amazing run under Ten Hag from the start of the season to the Carabao Cup win against Newcastle. And around that and after that, he's not done it. So I think there has to be a period of adaption to a league he's never played in.

11:54He's also playing for a very, very good team. So I think the parameters and expectations of what Rashford's meant to be doing at Barcelona are somewhat unclear. For me, he doesn't get in their best 11, but he will play a lot of football and hopefully he'll score a few goals and hopefully he'll do decent enough that they want to keep him or somebody else wants him. If he goes beyond that and he's benching somebody like Rafinha or Lewandowski or whoever, then that's a real bonus. But I don't think Barcelona are naive to the fact as to why Marcus Rashford's there. They needed depth behind their amazing front three.

12:38And also Marcus Rashford is a huge brand from England for Barcelona. And Barcelona and Real Madrid are very aware in their recruitment plan and their PR plan of having players from areas that are going to give them exposure. First and foremost, they've brought Rashford in because Hansi Flick likes him. But there's also a huge pull in having Rashford at Barcelona. There is absolutely no credible rumours of Barcelona returning Marcus Rashford. And they will not return Marcus Rashford because there's no need to do that. For the things I've just said there, there's still a period of adaption and they know exactly what they're getting.

13:22They're getting a player that really hasn't played that well for a couple of years with huge potential on and off the pitch. and Barcelona fans will demand. Oh yeah, they'll demand. But the Barcelona hierarchy and Hansi Flick are not looking to send Rashford back. Barcelona fans will be demanding. They always will be. Real Madrid fans are as well. But there's no news or expectation that he'll be coming back. Weekend Bus says, when will the butcher be back? I think next international break is probably what we're looking at with that. Funnily enough, I just wanted to say as well, just on injuries I don't remember what day we spoke about this if anybody's here who watched the morning show when we gave you the injury updates I feel it was Wednesday morning I think it was Wednesday morning maybe Tuesday morning I think it was Wednesday morning where we said that Kunja injury not as bad and there is a hope that he can be involved for the Man City game probably wouldn't start but maybe off the bench and there would Mount again not as bad but they're sort of looking at Chelsea.

14:30Things would have to go really well over the next few days. So that was our update on Wednesday. There's been some updates coming in last night that I've seen a lot of aggregators speaking about. They're exactly the same as ours four days ago. So Kunia, not as bad. Should be back around the Man City game. Wouldn't be expecting to start, but should be back for that. Mount, realistically, more the Chelsea game the week after. so you know that's where we are with that and martinez international break two not international break one so uh you might have seen it all last night we were talking about it on wednesday but there's nothing new really to add there um do you think either of them will start against man city not with our um fitness department no um it's funny actually because um my my i went down to Southampton yesterday to watch my daughter play and she's just coming back from a from an ankle injury where she's been out for about six weeks and even at that level they they basically said 40 minutes and I find it hilarious I'm like you're telling me they can't she can't play 50 and if she plays 50 she can't play 55 why 40 you know what's the difference between 40 and 50 and the hilarious thing is is that in that game and I don't know whether if you've ever watched your kids play football and stuff like that.

15:55Sometimes they do this weird thing where it's a 40 minute half, but they stop the game every 20 minutes. So there's like three half times. So 20 minutes, half time, 20 minutes, half time, 20 minutes, half time. So there's four quarters of 20 minutes. And I was just watching this going, so my daughter can only play for 40 minutes because we're looking after her injury, but you're going to make a stop twice for 20 minutes. Surely you're increasing injury risk when you make people keep stopping. I don't know. So I don't know. My point is at every level in the game now, sports science is methodical about the laptop says this.

16:39Personally, I grew up in a time where none of my teammates were ever injured and we were always carrying little knocks and this. And, you know, I remember going through our whole season of playing school team in midweek, Saturday, Sunday, most of us played for all three teams. Nobody was ever injured. And we were playing all the time and nobody had injury problems when they were older. Nowadays, you get a tight thigh and you're out for four weeks and you know, you staggered minutes back, but that's the world we live in now. You know, I wouldn't say it's woke, but it, you know, it's, that's the world we live in now um and it's that's why i would say mount or kunya starting that fight that that game against man city are probably is probably very very slim because the laptop will say let's not risk it whereas you know i think in sir alex's day if it was like keen and beckon they'd be playing in the game yeah but look that's the way we live in now if you go and watch whiplash the film that Maynou was referring to that I watched last night there's a brilliant speech at the end of it from the mentor who pushes the person really hard and he said the reason I push people is because that's how you find greatness and he says you know tells this story about this musician who basically was trying out um in this you know orchestra or whatever made a mistake and the conductor threw a bloody tambourine at his head or something like that and he got laughed off the stage he got up the next morning with the determination never to be laughed at again and worked his absolute arse off for the rest of his career and became a great and the tutor's like if that person hadn't thrown the tambourine at his head and he hadn't gone off humiliated he never would have woke up and put the work in if somebody had gone up to him and said it doesn't matter that you're not as good as you should be just keep trying would he have got up the next day and worked as hard and we live in a world today where you can't do that to people you can't say you're shit you're absolutely shit you're an embarrassment because it might hurt the person's feelings but then you know i'm not saying i agree with it but this person was saying and then you don't create greatness because it doesn't cause the spark inside um pranav welcome to members club thank you very much uh why we're never on the lookout for good free agents many successful clubs across europe managed to get excellent players free every year eg real madrid says pranaf uh thank you very much for that um just in relation to anana obviously we were talking about anana last night it's looking very very good for him to go to the uh turkish league but obviously nothing has been confirmed yet um with regards to that um there was something else i wanted to talk about very very quickly uh now i've done all the injury stuff that's there done that as well um oh yeah i mentioned it before they want a an honor in for the next game which is obviously very very key um this this this is this is just just on transfers this this there's a couple of things that have sort of reared their head in the international break that are actually old there's that man city fan saying that pep's better than sir alex and i feel a bit sorry for the Man City fan I mean that's that's very old clip that's resurfaced by the way but there's an old clip from Fabrizio that's resurfaced and a lot of United fans have been going oh look this is how Ganacho did it so basically it was an interview Fabrizio did with I think it was Gary Lineker about how how he gets transfer information and he basically said how do I get info on transfers many players send me DMs directly or I'll send them DMs to ask for information sometimes they tell me please can you say something about me because i want to leave the club now this is this has caused some shock um around um certain fan bases and certainly the united fan base because they're going oh leaks again leaks again oh my god i can't believe like i can't believe people don't think this where how do you think fabrizio gets his information or any other journalists for that information like how else do you think they get it how do you think people have been getting information for years like they bring up journalists and say can you say this or that and nowadays they're dropping into dms this is exactly how it works uh i don't i was quite shocked about how people were getting so angry about it because look social media has made it even easier to do it like it's so simple um i tell you what if if fabrizio could screenshot everybody dme's ad from a player and put it out publicly well that that would make that would make some very interesting reading and it would probably take you about six months to read them all.

21:26Absolutely, this is how it works. Team news, leaks, transfers. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it's not coming in by pigeon, says Peter. No, no, no. And look, the clubs do it as well. The clubs have to do it as well to do that. Is that how you got the team news from Luke Shaw? I never have the team news from Luke Shaw I don't I don't know who started that one I mean I'll own some of it but I never had the team news from Luke Shaw I genuinely have never had the lineup from Luke Shaw and I don't even know why that one I don't even know who started that one um but yeah it's um yeah I don't really have a huge amount of uh issue with it really um it's the modern game isn't it and i think if you want to stop specifically man united players dming people like fabrizio romano saying please talk about me i want to go and instantly somebody said do you think mainu did it for the loan deal i think i mean it's not always that i mean that could be that could be i mean david ornstein had that so i don't think mainu's there dming david ornstein and fabrizio romano saying can you please say i want to leave on loan that could be agency-led, could be club-led for sympathy.

22:48I don't think it always is the case, but the only way you stop it is to build a team that everybody wants to play for, that isn't toxic and isn't an embarrassment and has credibility. If you want trust and loyalty, then you need to create something that people want to be part of. And the reason you probably don't get many Liverpool players doing it is because they don't want to be anywhere else. You know, if you look around Trent and Real Madrid, there was probably messages going into Fabrizio there because he wanted out. But the vast majority of those players don't want to go. They want to stay.

23:26They don't want to be going anywhere. And I think at United, because we're so bad and there's so much scrutiny, I think players do look at it like, one, I don't want the blame. And two, you know, is it good for me to be here? So you solve this problem. them. Look, symptoms of a cold will hit you if you're in a room full of people who've got a cold. Your solution is to put yourself in a room where nobody's ill. And if we want to stop these symptoms, we need to remove ourselves from an arena that feeds those symptoms. Manchester United have fed these symptoms. The players obviously have a role to play in it, but we have created a culture where we grow these types of problems.

24:12And we need to change that. Michael says, yesterday morning, it's useless to talk about Belayba rumours. This morning, Bruno exit and Belayba. Michael, I don't think you understand the concept. Without being offensive to you, Michael, I think you're a very literal person and you can't, you know, everything's probably red or green and nothing in between. One, it's a news show. So we react to the news. Eight o 'clock is more of a conversational show. The morning show has and always will be a news show. And two, somebody spoke about the Belaber stuff last night. I actually said it's a load of shit.

24:48And what I've done overnight is do a little bit of research and found out where it's probably coming from, which is the newsletter of Romano. And I've still said it's a load of shit. So it's a news show, Michael. We won't get that minute back, but unfortunately there are people who wander in here. It's a little bit like some people will be walking along the street, they'll walk into a butcher's and go, I'm a vegetarian. Why are you selling meat? Because it's a butcher's. Please leave. You know? Thank you very much, Michael. Steph says social media don't care, kicking the ball into the net. Thank you very much.

25:23Chuck says Bruno has never said he's leaving, nor has he given any indication of going to the Saudi league. Why does Mark keep pushing the narrative that Bruno is leaving next summer. Again, someone's wandered into the butchers again, haven't they? Oh, it's Sunday. Of course, of course it's Sunday. Sorry, toxic Sunday. Work tomorrow. Depressed, aren't you, Chucks? Get yourself a walk, look in the mirror, tell yourself what's really bothering you and do something about it rather than projecting it onto our brilliant community because you don't understand the level we're operating at here. We're talking about Bruno because it's a news show.

25:58And we're talking about Bruno because people in the news are talking about him going to Saudi. And as for your little made up fantasy, because you don't hang around with Bruno, he's not your mate. You're not his bloody agent. This made up fantasy that Bruno never gave any indication of going to the Saudi league. Why was it, Chucks, that for three weeks, Saudi were saying they're in negotiation with Bruno. And at no point did he say, no, I'm not and I'm not going anywhere. He thought about it for three weeks. Now, if that's not an indication that he was thinking about going to Saudi, I'm sorry, you're a mug.

26:34No indication of wanting to go somewhere is an instant refusal. I'm not interested. He spoke about it for three weeks with them across the Europa League final. Our biggest game and our captain was in talks with Saudi.

26:51Tell me I'm wrong. I'm not saying it's the reason we lost. I'm not saying he hasn't got a right to do that, but it is true. It's true. And it's not being condescending, nor it's actually having the ability to communicate back with people who come in here trying to attack this community without actually, you know, speaking facts. No indication that Bruno wanted to go to Saudi. Wrong answer. He was thinking about it for three weeks. If that's not an indication, I don't know. So if you, if Chucks asks someone to marry him, maybe a woman, maybe a man, we don't know, and that's fine. And they say, let me think about it for three weeks.

27:30And then they come back and say, no, are you going to sit there and go, it was a flat? No. Or are you going to go, they were thinking about it. If you ask them to marry you and they say, forget about it, you ugly twat, then, you know, and they might be talking about your personality, not your looks, then that's an instant refusal. And there's no indication that they ever wanted to marry you. But if they go, let me think about this for a few weeks. And you keep saying, what's your answer? And you go, I'm still thinking about it. There is an indication there, isn't there? You know, what I would say is there is an irritant around us talking about this because the season is up and running and he's going to play every week and he's our captain.

28:08And I think he's our best player, even though he's playing out of position. But I do think he'll be, I think there's a very good chance he'll go in this summer, but I also think there's a very big chance Man United will probably offer him something to stay. Morning, mate. Do you think from now on we'll start seeing results we want and maybe, Luke, it's very difficult for me or anybody else to sit here this morning and say that we're going to start getting results when our next two games are Man City and Chelsea. We're about to play two teams that I believe will finish firmly in the top four. one of them at the Etihad one of them at Man United the one at Man United we're playing against the midfield that's brilliant we don't have a brilliant midfielder so I think they're two massive tests Man City in a way are vulnerable because they've lost two of their first three but they're at the Etihad and it's Man City Chelsea you'd say well it's at Old Trafford we've got a better chance but their midfield is amazing so I think it's two very very difficult games and if people are thinking the season starts after the international break that's a harder two games than what we have at the start of the season.

29:10Arsenal's difficult, Fulham away is difficult, but it ain't Man City and Chelsea. These two games for me, when I saw the fixture list in January, I was like, that's bloody difficult. And it's always difficult to go back after the international break away. You always want to be home after the international break. Hi Mark, always thought you could keep some good players from the last manager, but now I'm of the belief that within two summers of the new manager coming in, they should be out the front door says dragon guide i've seen people talk about this i i mean i think it's a bit stringent but but i do get the point i've seen it quite a lot across the fan base people saying if you haven't shown it after two years you should be going that would mean xerxi agate delitz masrawi yarrow if any of them haven't done it by the summer they've got to go that would mean mount would have to go now by the way because he's had two years anon has had two years he's gone Rasmus has had two years he's gone so Mount really should be gone as well um based on his injury record which is harsh so I think sometimes I think keeping Mount what I'm saying is the right idea let's see what he can do in year three plus nobody would take him I think there's always you know circumstances where I would give a player over two years if they've had difficulties that are beyond their control but I do agree if Agate hasn't shown it this year what are you doing you know Anthony after two years I was sort of like okay and I think you're right I think two years is enough um and we haven't done that enough at United I mean there must be a bit of homework I could give you which is what's the average stay of a man united signing I've just written an article for the athletic there they do very well in the international break what's the average stay of a man united signing and compare it to what dragon guide and many of you were saying if we're saying two years and you've not done it you should go what's the average stay of a man united signing i don't know off the top of my head but look sancho's been here a very long time um delo's been here a long time luke shaw's been here a long time lindelof was here for eight years apparently maguire's done six like if you're a good signing then obviously you want them to stay so bruno's stay is irrelevant because he's been a good signing but how many good signings have we had uh you know i'll tell you what we'll revisit that at eight o 'clock because i reckon i can figure that out for eight o 'clock as well brilliant show this morning thanks everyone for tuning in as always i'm gonna shoot off now because i'm off to watch seb play football first league game of the season all the pre-season's over so i'm hoping they can get off to a win but it's a tough game we've got a tough game today um it's gonna be hard um thanks everyone for watching uh stay safe and um get your comments in as normal.

31:48And we are back at eight o 'clock. Obviously, if we get an anana, here we go or anything, we'll go live for that as well. Have a great day. Stay safe. And remember, if you are feeling a bit down on a Sunday, because some people do, look in the mirror, get a piece of paper and write down the things that are making you feel unhappy, because it will be you, something about you, and work to change it so that in a Sunday in a few weeks time, you might not be going to that work anymore. You might not be in that friendship or relationship anymore. I always think Sunday is an opportunity to look in the mirror and go, what is it that's really making me unhappy and change it?

32:22Hopefully a lot of you are happy. Have a great day. Stay safe and I'll speak to you soon.