182: Amorim's HUGE Double Deal PLAN!

0:28Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. be honest with you. Apologies for being a bit late. You may have known I sat on my glasses and I've had to... Old glasses. I've had to have this to hold them on because I sat on them. They've got tape all around there. So I went to get a haircut this morning and then I ran to get my glasses as well. So I've got a new pair now that just come off. I don't need to worry about the band on the back. Positives. But two things before I get into the show. I saw a couple of people on the way. One of them, it was like literally quarter to 10.

0:56They said, Mark, I watch your shows. I said, I'm going to be late. He said, I'll be watching. So shout out to him. And then as I got around the corner, Angels stopped me. Wants to be on the show. We had a quick chat, but I said, I have got to go. There's thousands of people waiting. So a big shout out to them this morning. Then I got in the car, Man United news related, had the radio on, made a massive mistake. Angels, there he is. There he is. Angels, E-N-G-E-L-S. Definitely him in the chat. Nice to have a chat with your pal. But got in the car, driving over here to you good people, heard a certain radio station, had to say, magic radio, you've got a new customer.

1:34And smooth radio, even saga radio. I'll listen to any radio station instead of that now. I gave it one chance and I switched it off because basically they were talking about whether Amrim survives Christmas. And this was the brilliant analysis you get on that radio station. And I feel sorry for people who have to commute. I feel sorry for people that want to listen to football in lorries. You really do need to just put the United stand on repeat because, oh my God, this is what they said on the radio about Ruben Amrum, whether he'll survive till Christmas. Very lucky against Burnley. They didn't play well and they needed Bruno to rescue them.

2:10At that point, I was already reaching to change the station and then followed it up with, he's got to change the formation. this team doesn't work in this formation. And I thought, that's it. Magic radio, get it on. I was like, what the hell is a national radio sports station giving platforms to people like that? Apparently, we played badly against Burnley and we luckily won. I mean, I know it was a three o 'clock kickoff and it's not easy to access. But if you're going to actually assess a game of football, please, for the love of God, watch it. It's propaganda. If you don't, we should have been 4-0 up at half time.

2:46we messed it up in the second half, but we definitely deserved to win that game. And we definitely played well in the first half. So we didn't play well and we were lucky against Burnley. Even Scott Parker, the Burnley manager, said Man United are a really good team and we struggled against them. So what are these pundits talking about saying that we played badly against Burnley when the team Burnley manager literally said Man United are a good team? Also, yeah, I mean, the formation thing, the less the better. Right, let's get into the news this morning. Hope you're doing well. big shout out to the chart show links in the live chat it's on the home page it dropped at 2am yesterday get involved in that it's going to be very interesting next week it's what i call exclusive content for you we're not driven by anybody else we're driven by you so get involved in the chart show um but look let's sit in the news this morning lots to get into guitar so jim radcliffe uh ruben amarin project 90 but i'm going to start with the headline it's been floating around this morning it's been floating around this morning a little bit like a turd in the toilet that you can't flush, to be honest with you, because I just feel like...

3:47Look, okay. So the story is Man United have a huge double deal plan. They're going to go for Anderson in January and then they're going to go for Belaber in the summer. Sounds good, doesn't it? And this is floating around the UK press this morning. Amrim's huge double deal plan. There's a few problems with this. Amrim doesn't control the purse strings. Amrim doesn't do the negotiating. Amrim's huge double deal plan is about as irrelevant as, you know, Mark Bronzebridge's plan to take over the world today. Like, it's just not going to work. It's not going to work, is it? Because Amrim's huge double deal plan would have happened three weeks ago because he wanted a midfielder then.

4:32So this needs to be... I mean, it just can't be a conversation in September that we all get excited about. I mean, Elliot Anderson in January and Belaba in the summer sounds absolutely brilliant. It really, really does. But it's September the 11th. And in relation to that as well, this will never not be a day that makes me think of a certain event. And I know there's a lot going on in the world at the moment, and I can talk about that at the end if you want me to, but I'll never, ever forget this day. And thoughts go out to everybody who's impacted and doesn't forget that day, September the 11th.

5:09Yeah, it was a day I'll never forget. And I don't think anybody else will forget who witnessed that horrific day all those years ago. But yeah, it is September the 11th. And in a footballing sense, it is incredible, really, that we are talking about double deals when we got to go with what we got. I think it feeds quite interestingly into the financials. that, you know, the whole Project 90 thing that Sir Jim Radcliffe is trying to implement is about raising£90 million of extra revenue each year. Financially, we are not in the best position. I was reading an article yesterday about United are effectively treading water.

5:55We've got our new financial results coming out very soon and they're expected to be okay based on Europa League run, sackings, reduction of the wage bill. That's great. The trouble about financials is that you're always looking on your last year and our last year won't be too bad because we sacked a load of people. We've reduced the wage bill and we obviously had a good Europa League run and that will have made us some money. I think we're really going to face the bite this year. Like we can't really sack another half of the workforce. Can't really trim the wage bill massively anymore and we won't have Europa League or Carabao Cup midweek games between now and Christmas so we are going to feel the pinch and the question about Amrim's huge double deal for me is where does the money come from and that's going to be the interesting thing and ultimately the where the money comes from is results on the pitch to get results on the pitch you need a midfielder to buy a midfielder you need results on the pitch so it's sort of like it's going to be very interesting about what we can do.

7:00But look, I'd be very happy with Elliot Anderson. I'd be very happy with Belaber. And hopefully United do have a strategy to bring those players in. But the strategy should have been there in the summer, as we've said many, many times before. Moving on, I have to talk to you about Andre Inanna. Apparently, the Prats, a story came out this morning. I think it was in the sun. So take it with a pinch of salt. But there's a few stories coming out around Inanna this morning, one of which was that he was actually ignoring Ruben Amirim on the training ground towards the end. I mean, yeah. I mean, if I was Inanna, I wouldn't be ignoring Amirim.

7:34If Amirim looked at me, I'd be giving him a hug and saying thank you. I mean, I'd be hiding after that Grimsby result. I literally would be in a wheelie bin. And actually, a wheelie bin would be better than him. I mean, if Inanna had climbed into a wheelie bin and Amirim saw that wheelie bin, Inanna would probably get picked because Amirim would probably say we'd be better off with that wheelie bin in goal and then anana would be in the wheelie bin and he'd still be playing but to be snubbing or ignoring amirim is just hilarious and i suppose it says a lot if there's any truth in that about you know the issues that we had um with him but also uh i saw this this morning as well if i'd bring it in uh apparently uh anana where was it Inanna had offers from other clubs and also turned down a move to Monaco as he was under the impression he was a key part of Ruben Amrim's plan.

8:27I mean, that to me, if true, exposes again how, you know, the problem wasn't necessarily between the sticks, but also between the ears. because look you speak to people like ben foster and watto they will always say that goalkeepers are a different breed like you have to be because it's quite an isolating position you do a lot of training on your own with other goalkeepers on the pitch you spend a lot of time on your own in your own box because everyone else is further up the pitch unless you're shit and then you do spend a lot of time talking so you've got um i wouldn't say you know you gotta have voices in your head or anything like that.

9:09But you're a certain type of personality if you're a goalkeeper. And I suppose what I'm saying is you might, you know, have conversations with yourself where, you know, I'm not saying you've got a special friend if you're a goalkeeper and, you know, maybe you do, but maybe you have conversations where, you know, you tell yourself you're better than you are. But if Andre Anana was turning down moves to Monaco because he thought he was part of Ruben Amram's plans, I know for a fact that it was made very obvious to him that he wasn't back in March. I personally believe, and I've had this firsthand, and I've told you many times, Inanna was never told that he was at Ruben Amram's number one this season.

9:53In fact, quite the contrary. Inanna was told in very, very simple terms that they were looking for another goalkeeper and they would like him to go. What Inanna decided to do was that if he didn't leave how were they going to buy a goalkeeper so he was under the impression that if he didn't leave he'd still be man united's number one and obviously he found out big time that wasn't the case when behinder got picked against arsenal so i think what's happened here is anana had a very big you know and i don't knock this i don't i think it's quite an admirable trait if you've got ability um i think he had immense self-belief that he could prove everybody wrong and that is a very very very very good trait to have as a human being but if i'm a chef and everyone says i'm a crap chef and then i say i'm not and then i go and give everyone food poisoning you know i've got immense self-belief but i've also got a very big prison sentence um and i'm not saying that an honor should go to prison for some of the mistakes he's made um or but he has obviously got a very very warped sense of reality around his future at Manchester United.

11:00I mean, look, Amorim wanted to replace him. Wilcox wanted to replace him. I think he thought that if he didn't leave, he'd be the goalkeeper. But also, I'm not saying that footballers should be dwelling online, but how do you miss it? It's not just online. It's, you know, Gary Neville. It's Ben Foster. It's, you know, match of the day. it's bloody everywhere it's not just fan opinion everybody was saying he wasn't good enough and to totally miss that is quite surprising and to believe that you could be Man United's number one so interesting but look at the end of the day he's been moved on and that's the main thing and we wish him all the best Creeping East says he's a new member welcome to Members Club thank you very much he says finally after watching you in the channel for a long time what are your thoughts on Neves Gallagher and centre midfield position.

11:51Great channel. I'd have took Connor Gallagher. In fact, we were talking about it with Angels this morning. We both said we'd have took Connor Gallagher, of course, because we haven't got anything. So, of course, I would have took that. Ruben Neves. I don't know about Ruben Neves. When he was at Wolves, I thought he was decent. But the Saudi move thing, just sort of, you know, I don't know what that does to a player, really. Patrick Lynch with a super chat says, Inanna believing he was important to Amrim's plan suggest there are players in that squad that think they are for various reasons and they're untouchable we really do need a proper clear out well you know what patrick always comes up with a good point and i think it's true um i i think that what what's really really really important and and you know uh corrie says correct patrick lynch is um you know you make a great point again I don't blame Anana for thinking it's up to him to stay and he doesn't need to go.

12:51And he thought he was going to be Man United's number one. Because to be honest with you, as Patrick sort of alludes to, we have played this game for nearly a decade where really it's up to the player to decide what happens, not the club. Because we haven't been sufficiently ruthless enough to make players realise that when you're not wanted, you leave. Quite the contrary When a player is not wanted Even if the fans are saying you're shit Players stay They decide I'm staying And look, Harry Maguire is a good example There was a time where Man United tried to sell Harry Maguire to West Ham There was a time where Players and fans wanted Harry Maguire out Not players Managers and fans wanted Harry Maguire out And he decided to stay Now, in the end That's worked out quite well but it doesn't escape the fact of should a player be deciding they stay over the club that's trying to sell them and the fans that want them gone Harry Maguire is an example of it working and I'm glad it did but there are plenty of examples of players who Rojo remember him he just stayed Casemiro is another one doing it at the moment it it happens at Manchester United a lot so we can blame Inanna but ultimately he's not the first and hopefully he will be the last of players who decide they're going to stay and it will be against what the manager wants and against what the fans want but Man United have created that environment where the player decides what they're going to do and we need to change that um 100 % I thought that was a fly then it'd be flat it's not is that it's not definitely not a fly um so yeah yeah good point patrick how would maynew play if we signed both and anderson and uh belaba well maliki you're just expressing your opinion you know would you sigh if i said to maliki would you sign belaba and anderson i presume you're going to say no because you want mayna in the team you know what i'm going to say you know what i'm going to say I'm going to say 100 % yes because ultimately if I'm going to play with two midfielders I'd love to have five good ones because I'm not scared of competition for places I'd rather have five good players going for two positions than three going for two because if I get injured one injury I've definitely got to play the other two and what if one of them's out of form I want competition for places I think that that's the way to go if I was a United player I wouldn't want to be part of Amarin's plans he's on a slippery slope and needs results hopefully starts against City says over.

15:27I don't know what I can do with that comment, mate. So basically you wouldn't be up for a fight. We shouldn't be at Man United then. Harley Thomas, thank you very much for your super chat. Right. What's this Qatari stuff? Right. OK. Interesting. I want to talk about Sir Jim Radcliffe a little bit because effectively Sir Jim Radcliffe, there was an article this week that Sir Jim Radcliffe is pulling his money out of the UK and is refusing to invest in the UK energy scene because of the tariffs and um some people are saying well if he's if he's if he's basically criticizing the uk government why will they do the regeneration project so we'll talk about that in a moment but i want to talk about the guitar uh story first so basically when it was sir jim radcliffe against guitar um a couple of years ago um i remember saying i firmly believe that if we miss the boat with Qatar, Qatar, I always call them Qatar, if we miss the boat with them, they will invest in another Premier League club because it's logical.

16:29There is so much money in the world at the moment and football is the emerging market because it's a global sport and there's a lot of people looking to invest, especially American hedge funds, etc. Obviously, the Qataris wanted Manchester United for status, but they can't get Manchester United. So that money is still going to be there to invest in a Premier League club. Funnily enough, I always said Spurs. I always said Spurs is perfect because amazing stadium in London, big fan base with the potential to grow. Almost could be the next Man City. You know, Man City had an amazing stadium because of the Commonwealth Games in an amazing city with a big loyal fan base that has the potential to boom if it's successful on the pitch.

17:17well lo and behold since Daniel Levy's left Spurs are a little bit unstable and in the last few days there's been talk of investment coming in from guess where Qatar so I only bring it in just to say that you know missing out on that option doesn't mean that option will stay on the table for some fantasy deal in the future I don't think the Glazers are going anywhere for at least 50 years to be honest with you I just can't see them ever going it'll just get passed down through generation and generation but that money i think could end up going elsewhere um so you know just just to just be wary of that in relation to sir jim radcliffe do i think sir jim radcliffe's well look ultimately if you read the story properly what it says is is that sir jim radcliffe in eos and their energy you know investments um are pissed off with the uk government because of the tariffs and the inability to invest and make profit.

18:15So basically, they're not willing to invest in the UK markets anymore. They're going to invest in the US because there's better returns there. This is very much a business headline. Some people have said, well, if Sir Jim Radcliffe is basically mocking the British government to go and spend in the US arena, then why would the British government go, oh, Sir Jim, here's a load of money for us to invest in your price. It's almost a contradiction isn't it you've got Sir Jim Radcliffe I won't invest in this shit government and then the government goes we will invest in something that's going to make you loads of money in Manchester so some people are saying is this going to be an issue if Sir Jim Radcliffe is effectively quitting the UK will the UK government quit on the regeneration project because Sir Jim Radcliffe is the big UK knight to front up what is effectively the Glazers project the Glazers have had this in mind since 2017.

19:09The plans are there. So Jim Radcliffe's come in and sort of gone, all right, but it's a glazer project. And if he's now pulling out and mocking the UK government, why would they back this project? I'm not too concerned about it, to be honest with you. INEOS are a huge company with fingers in many pies, and where they choose to invest their money around energy is up to them. What we're talking about here is the regeneration project of an area that does need regeneration, that will generate huge infrastructure in an area that needs it, and huge job opportunities, and more importantly, a lot of accommodation.

19:54And the UK, look, I live in the UK, I don't do politics, but there is a housing crisis. You know, we have a huge expanding population and we don't have enough houses. So I just don't think the UK government are going to go, Sir Jim Radcliffe's involved in this. He won't invest in the UK. Fuck him. Let's not do this. Like this is the government will not think of it like that. They will go, here's a way to do something really big in a city outside of London around one of the most institutionally big football clubs in the world. in an area where we can put a load of accommodation, a load of infrastructure, make a load of jobs and make a big noise about it, and also make a bit of money from private investment.

20:40So I don't think it's going to make any difference, the regeneration project, realistically. And ultimately, I'd say the UK government needs Jim Radcliffe some billions more than they can say, piss off. And they'll probably be looking to lure him back with that. So I don't think it's a significant update at all. And my biggest concern around the regeneration project is that if we had, if the Glazers had pissed off and we had brought in, let's say, Qatar, we'd already be building the new Old Trafford because they were going to build it with their own money. So, you know, you look at what's happened at Manchester City.

21:23They've got a mini stadium across the road funded by Abu Dhabi. if we'd been bought by Qatar, we'd already be building the new stadium and everything around it. My concern is I think we will do it. But when? When's it going to start happening? I don't know. I don't know. Look, I don't know because I don't really spend a lot of time analysing major regeneration projects. It's not the sort of thing that gets me a box of tissues and I've gone too far. But I don't know. Could it start tomorrow? I don't know. I don't know what's holding it up. up. They're talking about 2030. Honestly, I don't want to see Old Trafford knocked down, but as a realist, the sooner we have that new stadium, the more money we make.

22:11And Fish and Chip says new stadium, how about a new team? It all goes hand in hand. If they're going to do it, I wish they'd get on with it because talking about something never does anybody any good. So I don't know when it's going to start to happen. But look, by the time we've got Christmas out the way, it won't be too long until it's a year since we saw the bloody pictures of it. So it needs to, it needs to get moving. Definitely does need to get moving. Thank you for that. Mod's doing some great work tonight. Respect, says Cameron. I haven't really looked at the live chat that much this morning because I've obviously had a few comments to talk about, But I presume a lot of people are rocked as, you know, even my daughter came downstairs last night and said, I can't believe what I've just seen online.

23:00And I think we all know what we're talking about is the assassination in the United States last night. I'm sure it bothers a lot of people. All I would say on this is because we are a community. Is that this is why I don't do politics for one. I don't get involved in politics. We're a football community and politics are very, very divisive. So I don't do politics in any way, shape or form. And secondly, I think that the social media with people who do do politics is vile. So if you're reading people saying, I'm glad and stuff like that, I would just take yourself off social media because trust me, There's some vile people out there.

23:49Some of them do it for attention. Some of them do it because they believe it. Just take yourself away. You don't have to get in arguments that you don't need to be in. Conserve your own goodness and don't go down to that level. What are my thoughts? I just think it's disgusting that anybody can be assassinated in that sort of situation. I think it's very, very sad. I don't really know anything about the person. As I said, I don't get involved in anything like that. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he stood for. Ultimately, there used to be a cleric in London, the one with the hook.

24:27He used to stand in London every bloody week shouting stuff, right? A lot of people didn't agree with it. Some people did. I would never condone somebody assassinating him in the street. And he probably said a hell of a lot of stuff I didn't agree with. And he probably didn't like people like me or you. But I wouldn't want to see anybody getting assassinated on camera in front of their family in the street. And that's what I would say. So regardless of people's beliefs or anything like that. And I think we should live in a world where debate takes place because we're not all going to agree. And that's what we do here.

25:02I just think anybody who thinks it's good for somebody to be assassinated in the street is just confusing themselves with, well, this happened here, that happened there. What's that got? Those things are all relevant as well, but it doesn't mean you stand for somebody being assassinated. I just think regardless of beliefs and stuff like that, I just don't think that's a good look for modern society. And I think it's a shame. And that's my thought on it. But as I said, I'm not educated on what it's all about or what was going on or what that person stood for and people who disagreed with it. I just don't think it's a good luck for society and the human race that somebody gets shot like that in front of the watching world.

25:52So there, we can move on from that now, surely. Where would you rather live, London or Manchester, says Reflex?

26:02Manchester. Yeah. I love London, but I think, you know, for obvious reasons, Manchester. Kiel Robinson says, we need the next Belaber for 20 million pounds says keel oh well i've said this before and i'll say it again um with regards to um the labor it's a bit it's a little bit like a bank robbery isn't it you know we need uh old deniro and uh co from the film heat uh because we need to get we need to break into brighton need to hack Brighton's scouting system and find out who it is they're going for next. The problem with this is, though, Brighton are probably so clever they're switched onto it.

26:49They're like, Man United are trying to hack our tactical system. OK, I've got a great idea. Put a folder in there marked the next Belaber in big capital letters. In fact, call it and then put an image on the folder of top secret. Leave it really easy to find. okay next day they've hacked in and they've opened the folder good what did you put in there trust me this is going to be hilarious they've just just put a really shit player in there that's going to be rubbish from like France you know some some 17 year old who plays up front who's going to be the next belabor um but yeah whoever Brighton are going for next would be of everybody's interest of course but I mean obviously I don't know I don't know I don't And really, the honest answer is that's all a bit of banter.

27:39But why is our scouting not as good as Brighton? You know, why do we not know who the next Belaber is or the next Caicedo is or the next Declan Rice is or the next Rodri? You know, there will be an abundance of midfielders that are going to be brilliant in the next five years. Are we looking at them? Are we looking at them? I mean, look, Elliot Anderson was at Newcastle and now Nottingham Forest and plays for England. Oh, my God. What an amazing bit of scouting from Manchester United that is. Oh, my God. They're amazing. That's like me making a Hollywood film and going and getting, you know, somebody who's just won a bloody Oscar.

28:23Oh, he's found a great bit of talent there. Like, Belaba, Brighton midfielder. Oh, who would have thought to buy a midfielder from Brighton? There's not been many expensive midfielders from Brighton bought in the last five years, is there? So I think that we do need to be better at recruiting. Definitely. 100%. OK, no matter what path in life you walk, we can always have a respectful, intelligent debate where everyone feels safe, says John. Well, you should be able to. Yeah, you should be able to.

28:59relaxation nation says we do actually scout quite well we just don't buy them Caicedo Bellingham and Haaland and I think actually you know what it's a fair point it's a fair point because I think that I think it is a fair point because I said it was a fair point but I also think it's a fair point one brain thinks we have definitely scouted amazing talent over the last 20 years like the list is incredible and I'm sure you could throw up names over the last 20 years that we just didn't move forward on Arsenal didn't move forward on Ronaldo so you can make mistakes but I think from United's point of view if a scout walks in and says buy these players and the owners say no whose fault is it it's not necessarily the scouting the scouting could be fine but then was it not only a few weeks ago that we're reducing our scouting network to save money so i don't know i i don't know i i think that it's really interesting to talk about manchester united in a financial sense sometimes because i just don't believe that you can cut, cut, cut, cut and be good.

30:12I think at a point the cut starts to make you worse. Um, and you can only cut for so long. Like, as I say, if I'm running an office and we need to save money and I've got a staff of a hundred and I say, sack half of them. And I sack half of them and I go to my boss, there's the savings. And my boss goes, well done for this year. you've done a great job i go back to the office and somebody says to me we're going to really struggle next year because this person you sacked used to do that so that person's got to do it but they've got to do their own job we're going to struggle we're going to have an increase in sickness we're going to have an increase in you know inefficiency um it's not going to work you you've saved the money now but we're going to struggle to do what we were doing last year output wise boss knocks on the door again and says you know all that money you saved last year i need to do it again can you make more cuts and you know in the back of your head i've already cut to the bone in fact we cut to the bone so hard i think it's going to impact the way we will perform anyway and now you're asking me to cut even more and that's my worry with the united cuts is 50 % is an incredible amount of cuts.

31:27And is it, you know, we saved a load of money, we saved a load of money. And then in year two and three, we're in trouble. I don't know. I think it's going to be very interesting to observe because where do you keep making the cut? And also forget The Office, great TV series. Talk about the squad, right? Ericsson and Lindelof gone. Rashford's wages covered. Anana's wages covered. Rasmus wages covered. Ganacho's wages were shit. So we've probably saved, what, let's say, I don't know, 50 million in wages this year. Next year, we need to save another 50 million. Casimiro goes. Maguire goes. a couple of others go are we replacing these wages or are we cutting these wages because if we're cutting the wages surely the team's going to suffer what i mean is you can cut to a certain point that's good wastage great but if you're cutting to save money are you cutting to save wastage or are you cutting to save money and that's something I can't answer and nobody can answer at the moment.

32:46We definitely needed to cut wastage. There was definitely some silly contracts. There was definitely, you know, Anthony, people like that. But what about if it just continues to cut and it goes beyond wastage? It's actually about saving money, saving money, saving money. That, in my opinion, will impact on us. Thank you very much, John. Brighton probably have a replacement already, says Dan Davey. Thank you very much. Seth, welcome to the Members Club. Appreciate you and Harley Thomas as well.

33:18Ranić is the best coach scout. I think Vavelle's a great scout, by the way. We're back tomorrow night on That's Football with exclusive Bundesliga action. It's a bloody good game to watch if you're interested in the next wave of talent coming out of the Bundesliga. I mean, you look at this year, we've had Cheshko Liverpool have had Eketike and Wurz and Frimpong Newcastle had Walter Maeda there are others that have come in from the Bundesliga as well this summer and there will be more next summer it's probably the big I'd say it's the league in the world at the moment that's the closest to the Premier League, the most entertaining and there is a huge talent pool there Leverkusen Frankfurt tomorrow Frankfurt have got some incredibly Exciting players there Leverkusen have got some as well Obviously I'm not even mentioning Leipzig Why are we talking about the Bundesliga Well you can watch it and that's football But more importantly Favell Has an amazing understanding Of that league And I think we have a very very very Good recruitment I'm very happy we've got Favell Where Wilcox lacks experience.

34:38I think Vavelle's track record is incredible and we need to be tapping in earlier. You know, I mentioned, you know, United's double plan of going for Anderson in January and Belaber in the summer. In some ways, oh yeah, yeah, sign me up. I'll have some of that pie. I can have a cup of tea, a pint of tea and a big piece of pie. Is there a better way to spend an autumnal afternoon, by the way. I know I'm old, but give me a mug of tea, a slice of cake, a comfy chair, and a good book, and a roaring fire with a nice view out the window. And I'm very, very happy. But give me a slice of that pie. Anderson and Belieber.

35:22I love it. Brilliant. Brilliant. Nothing. No worries about that at all. Happy, content. But is there not a part of you that goes, anderson and a really exciting midfielder from leverkusen or frankfurt or monaco i do think that fits in with what vivelle is at the club for and i do think that manchester united football club will always be a football club that is intrinsically linked with youth and if it comes through from eight years of age, brilliant. But if it comes from Arsenal at 17, like Heaven and Obby, great. Or if it comes from, you know, was it Le Havert, like Pogba at 14? Brilliant. So I like the idea of Balabra and Anderson, but it's going to cost you.

36:18I mean, Kunja and Mbremo, yes. We needed the experience. I will never say they weren't good signings. But do we need to go and spend another £150 million on two midfielders? I don't think we do. I think you go big on one and young on the other. And I would like to see a Wharton or Belaber or Anderson type signing for maybe£60, £70 million and a under£30 million signing from Leipzig or Monaco or something like that. And I think that or Stilla, maybe Stilla, as Jakey said. So look, I'm sure most of you are going to say I want Anderson and I want Belaber. Personally, I think for where we need to go as a football club, especially in relations with financials, we can't just keep spending£130 million on two players.

37:10i'd rather spend you know 90 million on a really good signing and a younger player because the next wave is coming through and i think united have been very bad for them for many years in trying to buy the player that is already the next big thing if you know what i mean paul pogbert juventus we had to go and buy him even though we had him um and we've done that a lot sancho at Dortmund. We've done that a lot. I believe that, especially when you look at the age profile of people like Kimmich and Rodri, I think there's a next wave of midfielders coming through. And I think that we need to look at those types of players.

37:58And I think Favell is a real positive when it comes to that. Definitely. Theo says, I think Warton's a class act that the rest of his game goes unnoticed. He can disrupt and create with positional awareness there's a reason Liverpool want him in January well I didn't know that Liverpool wanted him in January but I do think he's a very very good player in relation to Wharton Man United have been looking at him for an incredibly long period of time I mean we're talking you know we're talking two years easily and I think the problem with Wharton similarly to belabor is that you could argue that maybe he's already out of our price range and out of our league because he may already be a player that's going to go Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, you know, somewhere like that, which takes him out of our reach unless we're in the Champions League.

38:53So I think Wharton would be very good. You know what I know about Wharton? And it's not an age thing. You could figure this out at any age, but it's the same thing I saw with Roy Keane at Nottingham Forest. It's the same thing you would have seen with Paul Ince at West Ham. It's the same thing you see with Declan Rice at West Ham. It's when a team that's not a traditional top six team has a player in it and you know they are absolutely the big reason that that team is doing well. And obviously Palace have got Gehi. He's brilliant. But, you know, Glasner's a great coach at Palace. There's no doubt about it.

39:33But when you look at that Palace side, you've got Gehi at the back, you've got Wharton in the midfield, you had Ezi. They have got three players that are way too good for that team, with all due respect. Gehi's good enough to play centre-back for Liverpool, Wharton's good enough to play midfield for Liverpool, and obviously Ezi's now playing for Arsenal. So trust me, one of the big reasons Palace are doing well is Adam Wharton, and he can do the job, but he will come at a cost. He'll come at a cost. And like Jakey says, Stilla is the cheaper version of Warton. And that's sort of what I'm saying.

40:13I do think that we do need to look for the cheaper options, certainly. Have an eye on Hugo Larson at Frankfurt, says Leo. Well, tomorrow night, I know we've got live TV rights of the game in England and Ireland, but we are going to do a non-TV rights watch along as well so we can get the whole community involved because i think that's really important but um uzan at leverkusen as a more sorry at um frankfurt as a more attacking player but larsen is an interesting player as well um i think frankfurt i i think frankfurt are going to be very good again this year despite losing mamush and akitike they're a very good team out of 10 what would you rate ruben as coach or manager as class of 99 at the moment i think he's a six um at manchester united i think at sporting you'd give him a nine but i don't care what about sporting sporting got him in the door you're in the door now man united i'd give him a six you could give him a five you could give him a four you'd struggle to give him a seven i give him a six because i think there are huge mitigating factors um i don't really care about last season you know when people talk about win percentages i don't care Our win percentage this season is 33 % You know, we've won one out of three That's all I care about Because until he had a pre-season Until he had his own signings I wasn't going to start I don't care about last season Some of you do, that's your right I and many others don't count last season as anything Other than a shit show that was shambolic But this is where it starts for me So when I watch the game on Sunday with you I don't want to just see United get beat 7-0 And down tools That worries me If we lose, I want to see a performance Same with Chelsea We need to start seeing performances now We need to start seeing the progress now There can't be Any more Grimsby's You know, we've got to start seeing something Jov says AI data-driven decisions Improves scout quality i don't believe that i don't believe it no i don't believe it because i think you know you know my stance on stats i'm not really up for statistical tactical tick-tock bullshit um at football i've watched football for over 40 years i used to go and watch football with my granddad he used to manage a sunday morning pub team um and saturday afternoons.

42:48I just loved watching football from a very, very young age, like most of you. And to me, it's always the eye test. I'll look at a player and I'll go, that's the best player. And I'm normally right. I normally can find the best player at amateur level. You'll go, that's the best player or you'll have three or four that you like. Bruno Fernandes in the chart show, check out Bruno Fernandes' position in the chart show and then read the comments. Well, the chart show was done by you. It was the first three games, aggregated score for each player into top 10. Read the comments on the chart show. The Bruno hates ridiculous.

43:28Literally voted for by thousands of people with all different opinions. Bruno on the AI stats test is probably worth 300 million pounds. Bruno on the eye test is divisive You can't argue with those two things On stats, he's the best player in the world On the eye test, he splits opinion Fair? Fair? Not saying he's shit, not saying he's good That's always been the way with Bruno I love Bruno as a number 10 Statistically, he beats anyone Eye test, people go either way and that's why the eye test I think is always important because there are stats that look it's like it's like Michael Owen saying at 17 he was way better than Rooney because he scored more goals hold on a minute goal scoring's great you won a Ballon d 'Or well done but Wayne Rooney on the eye test at 17 was 10 times what you were on pure talent he was he was generational you were just a top-class striker.

44:38You know, Wayne Rooney doesn't need to score 50 goals a season to be better than Michael Owen at 17. It was just... It's the eye test. It's the eye test. I mean, Gascoigne's stats probably don't measure up to Frank Lampard. You're going to fucking laugh if you think Frank Lampard was anywhere near as good as Gascoigne. So the eye test is always going to be the most important thing. And that's why I think with Favell, we have somebody really good if we trust him. Of course, the elephant in the room with Favell is if Sheshko fails, you, the press, maybe the club are going to blame Favell. And I think that's the one we need.

45:20We need Sheshko to do well anyway, but we need Sheshko to do well for Favell because he is the guy who is going to bring in the£20m midfielder from Leipzig that's going to end up being the next Kante or Frankfurt. or something like that. Favell is the key to the European market. I think Wilcox has got a good grasp of the English market, but I think Favell opens the door to the Bundesliga, the French League, etc. Christian says, if we sing Belieber, if we sing Belieber, we need one more player to cover his position when he goes to the cup, African cup. Maybe, well, we are, he'll be a Brighton player for the AFCON this year, mate, because it's in December.

46:03The AFCON concern that people had has sort of been diluted, hasn't it? Because when we were linked to Baleba, people were going, that's Anana, Baleba, Masraoui, Ahmad.

46:16I feel like I'm missing... Oh, Embermo. Whereas now we didn't sign Baleba. We've got rid of Anana. So it will be Masraoui, Ahmad and Embermo. And as we know, if Mount's fit and Kunja's fit and Xerxes fit and Bruno's fit, we've got coverage in the 10. None of our midfielders will be off to the AFCON. and we've got coverage at centre-back as well. So it won't be too bad, hopefully, as long as we don't have injuries. What do you think about the media constant saying that Amrim can't shape and coach young players considering Maynou can realistically leave? Artak, I tell you what, the positive about getting Manu glasses and a haircut this morning was putting the radio on and switching it off.

46:53I cannot believe how persistently idiotic the nonsense that gets written about Amrim is. but that's just that's man united isn't it yeah that's just man united um okay thanks everyone for watching this morning enjoyed it um good to be uh i'm sorry slightly late but i wasn't as late as i thought it was going to be so i'm very happy about that um okay uh we're back at two o 'clock don't forget tonight unless something major happens news wise i'm not intending to do my preview as a pre-record i'm gonna do it live at eight o 'clock tonight so the manchester derby live preview tonight. I've got loads of topics to talk about it.

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