187: RIDICULOUS! Sir Jim's INCREDIBLE Amorim Demand!

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0:36How are you all doing this Tuesday morning? Hope you're doing well. Get your comments in as always. A ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous story to start off with about the demands that Sir Jim Radcliffe, or the expectations that Sir Jim Radcliffe has for Manchester United. He thinks we should be getting in the Champions League. And you know what? If we've got, you know, I suppose our own assessment on the INEOS ownership of Man United and their failings, I suppose this just highlights the perceived stupidity of the people in charge of our football club. So this is coming in from Ben Jacobs. So Jim Radcliffe feels the Man United squad is good enough to qualify for the Champions League this season.

1:19I like the standard setting I like the expectation I like the ambition but as the owner of the football club you can't just say I want this Ferrari to finish in the top four and then not put any fuel in it like you know you can't do that I can say I want Man United to be in the Champions League but I've got no accountability as an owner you can't demand a result when you don't provide the ingredients and I think that's what I find incredible about that also two big stories from Fabrizio Romano around players. Apparently, Agathe nearly left in the summer, which again poses the question of this summer transfer window that some people want to say was really well organised.

1:57The more we hear about it, the more all over the place it was. You know, Agathe, Maynou, like what was the plan in the midfield if we have kept players that we were willing to move or wanted to go and we're trying to build a season on that platform? It's like building a bloody sandcastle, isn't it? It's going to get knocked down when it dries out or gets windy. So talk about that as well. But Nico says, I honestly don't know why we didn't stick with Ruud. You do see what, did you not? I mean, mate, I don't know whether you just turned off your TV when Ruud left Man United, but he did go to Leicester and get sacked.

2:31So, you know, I don't, look, we had a very good message from one of our viewers called Pip, who said the reason some fans want new managers is because they're not entertained on the pitch. So the new manager gives them some excitement in their life. And I think, And that's like quite a basic statement. But in some ways, I do think that there are some fans out there that just get excited about a shiny new toy every year because they're not excited on the pitch. I mean, Ruud van Nisselrooy, the Man United manager, bloody hell. I mean, how long would you give him? Six weeks before you started saying, get him out, he's clueless?

3:03I mean, I just don't know. I'm all for having a conversation about viable alternatives that might make a difference. I don't think there are any, but Ruud van Nisselrooy, bloody hell. Anyway, let's just start off with this, what Ben Jacobs had to say. So Jim Radcliffe feels the Man United squad is good enough to qualify for the Champions League this season and that Ruben Amrim's job security will be more seriously discussed if the sides is not on course for European football as the season progresses. Wow. I mean, absolutely wow. I mean, I think there is so much intelligence in this fan base with you.

3:39I like to think with myself, you know, but maybe that's debatable. But that is just incredible to me. I mean, there's no part of me that doesn't want to say Man United should be in a title race. There's no part of me that doesn't want to say Man United shouldn't be in a top four race. But there's also reality. Like we're not even in the top six. I'll argue with anybody like I did yesterday. We're not a top six club. We've got an owner who apparently wants Champions League football and thinks this squad should be in the Champions League. and if we're not in the race for that, then he will look at sacking the manager.

4:11I mean, what's the bloody point? Some of you might be quite happy with that, by the way, because you want to get rid of the manager, but that's not a healthy situation to have an owner that is out of touch, you know, clueless. And we look at what's happened at Nice and it ain't great. And we look at what's happened at Manchester United and it ain't great. And I just pose this question calmly again. What does this guy know about football? Like at no point have I seen any evidence that he's a lifelong Man United fan. I just don't see the behavioural traits of somebody that's consumed Man United over the course of their lifetime.

4:48They don't seem to understand anything about what we're all about. Style of play, players that we should have, demands, minimum expectations. It's just very, very pie in the sky. And like to be sat there and look associated with, I think this team is a top four team. It's just madness. If that's his expectation, well, he needs to get out of football because it ain't for you, mate. It just isn't for you. If you look at that squad and you think it's a top four team, I'm sorry. Give me the best manager in the world. You're not, he's not getting top four. Pep Guardiola, Arna Slott, bring Jurgen Klopp back, put them all together.

5:31it won't work, mate. That is not a top four team. So if that's what our owner thinks, who's in charge of the football side of things, then we're doomed. These are not the people that should be in charge of this football club. Absolutely not. And I know it sounds strange because if he said we're looking at mid-table, I'd hate that. I'd absolutely hate to have an owner that says we're looking at mid-table, but we're more of a mid-table team than we are a top four team. And that's basically on the owner. And I sort of go, well, are they putting these unreal expectations on the team to sort of blame shift.

6:03Is our owner a blame shifter? We know some of our players are, but is our owner a blame shifter? Is he allowing that to go out there because he wants to be the guy saying we should be getting top four with this team? Look at me, look at my expectations. But I ain't falling for that because again, that's just blame shifting. Oh, it's not my fault. It's the manager. We should be getting top four with this team. No, you're responsible for where we are as an owner because you haven't plugged the gaps to stop us sinking that we're all seeing. I absolutely am willing to have the conversation we've had for the last 24 hours about certain team selections.

6:39But I don't care if Amarin picks the right team and the right formation and the right system, whatever that is. That team's not a top 40. I don't think anybody would dare to say that's a top 40. team. It can't be. It just absolutely isn't. And if that's what our owners think we've got, we're in massive trouble. Absolutely massive trouble. You know, I look at Man United and if this is an F1 race and they think we've got a McLaren, yeah, a McLaren push chair, we haven't got a bloody McLaren Formula One car. We're not in that race. And if that's what we're thinking, incredible. And we must fight that because beyond whether it's the right manager and whether these are the right players, you've got to look at the top of the club and say that we need leadership.

7:29We need direction. We need reality. We don't need bloody fantasy football. Top four. Wow. I find that absolutely incredible. But maybe I'm in the minority on that one, But I just don't see it. And as I said before, remember top four is Man City, who've just beaten us, Arsenal, who've beaten us, Liverpool, who are the champions and Chelsea, who behave like a football club and are also, you know, already finished in the top four. We're not in the top four. And I would argue, without repeating myself, that Spurs and Newcastle have a better team than us. Better balance, better across their 11. So I don't even know where you put us into the top six, to be honest.

8:13So is it deflection? Is it out of context? I don't know. But how do... I mean, great question there. Well, if we're not a top four club, what's going on? Well, exactly. Exactly. And I think the reason we're not a top four club is because of the owners. If I look at Chelsea and I look at Todd Bowley, I think he gives every manager a lot of pressure. That's why he sacked a few managers, because he puts a lot of managers under a lot of pressure, because he gives them players. He goes, there's a player, there's a player, there's a player, there's a player, go and get top four. Why haven't you got top four?

8:44Get out. And I look at United and it's like, you should be getting top four. Where's my players? Wow, you should be getting top four. And if I was Ruben Amrim, I'd be saying, look I know I'm doing rubbish and if you want to sack me that's absolutely fine but in fairness with regards to this squad and I'll defend the next manager at what point do you think that that is a top 14 please tell me why you think that's a top 14 come on I want to know I really want to know well at the end of the day um Konya he's a good player yep he is um and Bumo yep yep Yeah, Sheshko is a good player. We spent 200 million pounds, you know, at the end of the day.

9:26And you go, yeah, three good players. They've been here for not three months yet. So, yeah, they've got to be given time to adapt. But they're good players. Carry on. Casemiro is won the Champions League. Yeah, about 10 years ago. Next, Bruno. Yeah, well, I'll take that one. Dorgu. Yeah, potential. Le Mans. Potential. Delo. Shut up. Deleted. Yep. Euro, potential. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry, Sir Jim. There's a lot of holes in this story that you're trying to tell. This ain't a top four team. You're talking out your arse and you're going to sack another manager after me if you think that's the case. I just want realism.

10:09I want realism. I look at United this season and I sort of hoped that we might be able to go for fifth. I think that's incredibly unrealistic now. I think Spurs and Newcastle are just visibly better than us. And unless they implode because of Champions League football and injury, I just don't think we're competing for that. I think we're competing for seventh. I think that's the reality. And that's... Hi, Uncle Lazer here. America's built on fast cars, fast food, and even faster women. Foto Casino's built in America. You know what they're fast at? Fast cash, rise, redemption. You see, only Moto is US owned and operated.

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11:22I want real. I want reality. I want people who front up. I'm fed up of the cowardice in this football club as well. The blame shifting, the inability to speak truthfully. So many other clubs do it and we're terrible at it. Why can't we front up? Why can't we be honest? All this debt gets hidden away. Well, it won't be tomorrow when the results come out. What's happening with the stadium? Why do we retain shit players for eight years? What is it about this football club that won't remove Deadwood? Why do we keep people here? We don't want here. We don't want Casemiro here, but we keep him here because we don't want to take the hit.

11:58And then we're shit. You know, it's just I think that this football club would be in a lot better position if we actually had somebody that was very good at speaking to people and could just be honest and go, look, you know what? You're not going to like what I'm going to say. and maybe I shouldn't have bought the football club. Maybe I should have left the Glazers to rot so they had to sell it to somebody else. You know, I put my hands up for that, but I did. And I did it because I wanted to make Man United great again. And to be honest with you, walking into this football club, you know, as much as I want to work with the Glazers, we have to be honest, we're in huge amounts of debt.

12:34We can't afford this. We can't afford that. We've got players here who won't leave. I mean, what damage does it do if you say Casemiro won't leave? He's running his contract down. we all know it doesn't mean he's not going to be professional but we all know he won't do it I mean just say it just say look we could have had an extra 20 million pounds to go towards a new midfielder but we've got a player that's got a contract that we didn't give him in give it him and he wants to run it down he's a professional player he will work really hard but we would have moved him on in the summer because we that's what we wanted to do but we can't do anything about it and some people would disagree with that but look you know these are problems that that really do cause the club issues.

13:15I mean, Fabrizio Romano, I think it was Fabrizio Romano, was talking, let me just, I don't want to misquote here because it feeds quite nicely into what I wanted to move on to next. Yeah, it was Fabrizio Romano. Harry Maguire's contract will expire next summer and he would love to stay at the club. United are considering that and it's a possibility for him to sign a new deal. Why? Why? Like you've got Harry Maguire in his, you know, well into his 30s, who, as we saw at the weekend, is a model professional, but is not a modern centre-back and gets exposed for pace. Why would you not just play Tyler Frederiksen or Aidan Heaven and look to the future?

13:54Why do we keep clinging on? Don't talk to me about leadership as well. With all due respect, our leadership club, I ain't following them anywhere. I can't follow them because what is our leadership group? Bruno, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, DeLoe, Tom Heaton. What are they leading us to? With all due respect, they're probably all really nice guys. But what are they leading us to? The worst leadership group in football. You've literally collectively sacked at least three managers each. And what have you done? What are you leading this new team to? We need to turn our back on that. We don't need to keep these people.

14:36They're good lads. They're well-liked within the club. But you know what? It's like keeping people that actually aren't good at what they're meant to be doing. Leaders should be people who know how to lead. We used to have people like Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Nemanja Vidic, Ryan Giggs. We've now got Harry Maguire, Tom Heaton, Luke Shaw, Bruno Fernandes and Deleu on our leadership team. And with all due respect, they've all played shit at various times for Man United and are massively inconsistent. So we're specialists in inconsistency. We need to change the football club. I think Harry Maguire at the end of the season, it should be, thank you very much for everything you've done.

15:13Go and retire somewhere else, not at Man United. That's ridiculously harsh, but that's what this football club needs. It's the same as Bruno Fernandes in the summer. He'd been a great servant to the football club, but it's£90 million. Goodbye. Thank you. See you later. You know, we're not going to have Christmas together in our 60s. You're a paid, well-paid employee of a football club that's far bigger than you. Over a long period of time, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, noughties, we're a huge institution and we move on. David Beckham's not here anymore. George Best isn't here anymore. Brian Robson isn't here anymore.

15:54They played their part and then the book closed. It's time to close the book on you, you, you, you and you and build something new. We're clinging on to something that's dragging us down. And this is where this ownership needs to be more transparent. You need to lead from the front. Somebody on the show last night said, you know what? If Amorim and the club had removed Bruno Fernandes, these two losses to Man City and Arsenal would be received way better. They'd be way more palatable because people would go, we've just sold our captain in the summer, so rebuild this team. It's going to take time.

16:30Yeah, you'd have got the odd moaners, but the vast majority would have gone, what do you expect when you literally hit rock bottom after Spurs, you sell your captain and you rebuild the football club? It's going to take a few weeks for us to get going. People would have been open to that. But the fact that we went, no, let's cling on to the past. Bruno's irreplaceable. We must build around Bruno. It's basically screwed the team over. It's screwed the manager over. There is no patience because people are going, hold on a minute, this ain't nothing new. This is not a new Man United. You've still got the same players.

17:05You're still trying to do things with the same leadership group. Deleuze's been here for years. Bruno's been here for years. Shaw's been here for years. Maguire's been here for years. Tom Heaton's been here for years. You're building a team around a leadership team that's been here for bloody years. It's not new. There's nothing new about this. You had an opportunity in the summer to clear the deck and build something new and you didn't do it. And that, to me, I've been over this so many times. And I just think, like many things in life, it's not a basic argument. There are levels to this. And we didn't take the opportunity in the summer to do something that would have actually given Amorim and these owners time.

17:45This is no different to the Glazers under Ten Hag or Oli or even Jose. It's the same old strategy. Let's not do everything we need to do in the window. Let's not sell everybody we need to do in the window. And let's repackage this new story, basically polishing a turd of what we've had in the past. And that's sort of where we are, aren't we? And that's why there's no bloody patience. There's no patience because everybody's got eyes and can see ultimately, apart from, you know, three or four new signings, the main core of the team is still the same core leadership team that we've had for bloody years.

18:22So, no, I wouldn't keep Harry Maguire. No, I wouldn't keep Bruno. No, I wouldn't have kept Casemiro. No, I won't be keeping Luke Shaw. No, I wouldn't keep DeLoe. And no, I wouldn't keep Tom Heaton. I would change it because people say, well, imagine what will be without it. What? 16th? this leadership thing doesn't work. They might be good lads. They might be well-liked, but they don't work. And people within the team might think they're good lads and they're good leaders, but it doesn't work. Look at the results. We've not won two games in a row under Amram, apparently. Your plan doesn't work.

18:57Scrap your plan, but guess what? It's too late now because the window's closed. And Sir Jim thinking we're going to get Champions League football with that squad. You know what? If it wasn't so early in the morning, I'd be laughing my head off. It's incredible. Let me get some of your comments. I need to talk to you about Agate as well. Really interesting story about Agate. I mean, wow. Turd Polishers FC, says Ando. Amrim and Sir Jim are both at fault for Bruno staying, says Rohan. Absolutely, collectively, yes. Absolutely. You know, that's a collective decision. At no point can anybody say it's on Amrim.

19:30It's collective. Because I'm telling you now, if Wilcox, Barada and Sir Jim had gone, we need the 90 million. Bruno would be gone. Maybe Amrim would have walked as well, but he would be gone. Maybe that was the case. Maybe Amrim said, if you sell him, I'll leave. I don't know. Maybe Amrim wanted to sell him and the club said, absolutely not. We don't know. Because guess what? Welcome to Manchester United, the biggest secret club in the world. I mean, you know, I don't think there's many football clubs out there that wouldn't have communicated that in a better way. Was it a collective? We can't sell him.

20:04Was there somebody that would have sold him? Was somebody threatening to leave if we sold him? A lot of people say to me, where do you stand on this Amram in, Amram out situation? I tell you what, it's conflicted. And I don't know whether it's like it for you, but it's very, very, very conflicted. On the one hand, I massively back the manager. I think we always talk whenever a manager comes in, we always talk about giving them at least three years, that we've had 10 years of mistakes that could take 10 years to turn around. we can't do it in 10 months. It might have to get worse to get better.

20:39I think removing the likes of Ganacho, Rashford, Sancho, Anthony has never really been done before and we need to do a lot more of it. So, you know, you're breaking up friendships, relationships, people won't like it. You know, I think that this club needs... Moto Casino, America's social casino. Welcome to Moto Casino, where the excitement never ends with thousands of the hottest free Free to play social casino games, fastest payouts and the best promotions in the industry. No tricks or gimmicks. Owned and operated in the USA. Moto Casino is a free to play social casino. No purchase necessary.

21:1221 plus to play. Board were prohibited. Sign up today for a generous welcome bonus. Moto Casino. American Social Casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. A severe period of change that may impact results. so on the one hand I'm like let's stick with this and also I think for 90 minutes against Arsenal we played well I think for 25 minutes against Man City we played well I think for 20 minutes against Fulham we played well and I think for 45 minutes against Burnley we should have been 4-0 up so I look at the four Premier League games and I go there's been signs in that team that we are getting better.

21:54But the Bruno thing, I just can't get on board with. I just can't. I cannot get on board with him in the midfield. And I don't think he's going to change that. So I'm sort of like, for everything positive I've just said about sticking with it and the positive signs in some of the games, there's this whole Bruno in the midfield thing that he won't change. And that irritates me so much. So I can't help but be honest and say I'm really conflicted on Amarin because everything about it, let's stick with it. There are signs of positivity. Let's go. And then you've got this Bruno in the midfield thing and I'm like, this is just shit.

22:29It's so bad. If not Amrim, who would you like to see and why, says Ben. I mean, I don't like answering this question, but I think it's more relevant than it was two weeks ago where some people took offence to it.

22:45Conte is where I would go. because i think he's a fusion of pragmatic and decent football um and he seems to know everything about man united everything like how how he takes players from our club and you know turns them into good players i think conte was where would be where i would go but there's absolutely no chance of us doing that um he's just not the sort of personality they would go for. I think they would go for a Muppet. Sorry, a Puppet. Yeah. Nuno is absolutely... Look, I'm going to block the word Nuno. I'm being really serious. If you think Nuno is a manager for Manchester United, you need to go.

23:27His football is so boring. They were one of the most boring teams in the Premier League to watch. Oh, but they got in the top six. Yeah. If you think Man United's not about performance, then you're not a United fan. Let's be honest, Maguire should have been moved on years ago, says Dazzo. Kobe fight for Bruno Place. Give him the armband, says Ellen. Might see results when the new front three plays together, says Seeland. I disagree. I disagree. I mean, I will fight honest. I will fight positivity. You know I will. But football's not about your front three. If it was, PSG would have won the league, would have won the Champions League with Messi, Mbappe and Neymar.

24:05It's not about your front three. Football's about a team. That's why so many teams over the years beat superstars, because you have to be a team. We don't have a team. So the front three will make us better, but they'll also have games where they're twiddling their thumbs because the team behind them isn't coherent. Veghorse says, I think Amrim should be sacked after the season if they finish bottom half of the league. Man United should not be a bottom half mid-table team. He shouldn't be sacked for a top eight though. Chip says, why would a manager who's under pressure and has 18 months on his contract sell his best player and captain to build something long term.

24:40Same reason why he wanted Martinez and Watkins over youngsters. Very good point, Chip. Very good point. Jake says, it's on them for getting Amirim in November. This squad may not be top, maybe not be top four, but it's not 15th. We should be better. Did they even know Amirim's style, says Jake M. I don't want to go down that road, Jake, but thanks for the super chat. But as many of you have said before, the most illogical thing about the appointment of Amirim was that I don't think there's many people who watch football anywhere that would go, if you get Amerim, you don't need to spend money. It's so obvious.

25:19It's like having a motorbike and wanting to build it into a Formula One car. You're going to have to buy a lot of pieces. It can be done, but a motorbike is not a Formula One car, is it? You might not be able to use any other parts you might be able to use some of them but it's almost like Ineos just looked at it and went he's a hipster manager he'll make us great again and that can work you know if you look at Ten Hag's 4-3-3 and there was a manager out there that was a hipster coach who plays a 4-3-3 it might have worked probably wouldn't have worked because I think the players aren't good enough but might have worked but to look at what Ten Hag had with a 4-3-3 and then look at what Sporting do with a 3-4-3 and go, yeah, this will work.

26:07I mean, I look at the stuff like Sir Jim apparently thinks we're a top 14. I look at him watching the game at Man City and I look at him being a lifelong fan and not buying a midfielder and I go, I don't think they know a lot about football. I really don't think these people know a lot about football. So I look at it and I actually say a year on, I don't think they realised what appointing Amrim meant. I don't think they realised that instantly meant to the rest of the world, you're going to spend between half a billion and a billion in the next two years. I do not think they thought that. I think they thought he's a good coach, give him these players and we'll be a good team.

26:49And it's almost the mistake we've been making for a decade. It's not how it works. You know, you give Arteta the Arsenal team, it takes him years to build the vision. You give Klopp the Liverpool team it takes him years to build the vision. And we're asking Amarim to build it instantly. And there's the lesson, isn't it really? You know, Arsenal weren't great at the start under Arteta. Klopp wasn't as bad as people think straight away at Liverpool but he still needed time. I think Klopp didn't do as bad as people think in his first year. I think he might have got to a Europa League final. But my point is was the Liverpool team that Jurgen Klopp inherited as bad as what this United side is?

27:31Which is why I'll never compare our situation to anybody else's. But what you can do is you can say, look at Arsenal and Arteta, look at Liverpool and Klopp. And I think we can all agree it takes time. The only way it doesn't take time is Liverpool again, where Arna Slott comes in, wins the title in the first year because the foundations of that club are brilliant and they pick a manager that suits what the foundations are. So Arna Slott isn't like over there compared to Jurgen Klopp. Like Jurgen Klopp's style of football is there and Arna Slott's probably there. They're quite similar. So he comes in and works with something that he wants to work with.

28:13And that was genius by Liverpool. I think United went, Eric Ten Hag, Amorim, this'll work. And they're not even on the same bloody screen. And I genuinely think they just thought good manager, crap team, good team. Because I don't see any evidence of if you were in charge and you appointed Amirim, I guarantee over the last six months, you would have brought in at least one midfielder, a really good goalkeeper, a right wing back on top of everything else. Maybe you'd have only brought one number 10. You know, that would have, you know, maybe got to balance the books. but considering our first five signings at United are a top striker, two top number 10s, a young left wing back and a young goalkeeper.

29:00Read that back. Amrim comes in, a young goalkeeper, a young left wing back, two top number 10s and a striker. That's nobody's answer. Even if we played 4-3-3, two number 10s, a striker, a left back and a young goalkeeper. That's not, nobody's going to do that. Even if we carried on playing a 4-3-3, they're not the signings to make. So I do look at it and go, what logical reason did they bring Amram in other than good manager equals good team? Yet anybody with a brain who follows football would go, this is so different to what we are. We're going to have to literally buy about 15 players as quick, well, not 15.

29:45We're going to need to buy 11 players very, very quickly. we're going to need at least two wide players, at least two midfielders, two number 10s, a striker, another striker now, Rasmus has gone, an experienced goalkeeper and probably a left-sided centre-back. I don't know how many players I've named there. And that's shocking to me. It's absolutely shocking. The signings we've made, when you think about it, are just wrong. We've not bought any midfielder since Ten Hag got sacked and his midfield was shit. That was the one area of the pitch. Remember Carragher jumping around in his white trainers thinking he'd solved world peace?

30:23Oh, look at that Man United side. You could park a fucking plane in that midfield. Oh, I could run that midfield. I'd be prime fucking Pirlo. You know, look at it. We sacked Ten Hag. His midfield is rubbish. 11 months later, we've got the same midfield. How is that a thing? I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. James says, Do you think the fact that they only gave Amrim a short contract indicates they didn't expect to have to change too much of the squad? Yeah, exactly, James. Yeah. Ineos doing the same thing the second year running. Back to En Haag. Sacked him in November. Right now, I can see it happening to Amrim.

31:01No lesson learned, says Ricky. I want a proven European Cup winner. Jose, says Kiel. He won't drop it. So Jim Radcliffe is clueless, but at least he has high standards. Sully, they're probably the most dangerous people you can work for. Somebody that's clueless, that has unrealistic expectations. they're more dangerous than somebody that's intelligent, that's got lower expectations.

31:54Trust me. Sir Jim is in la-la land. If he thinks our midfield can compete with the top four, he must be held responsible for not selling Bruno's Rohan. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but look, the thing that irritates me most about Sir Jim Radcliffe, and if I could have an interview with him and he actually had the honesty to do it, the only question I would ask would be, you're a lifelong Man United fan. Please tell me the story of your support of this football club. And then I'm sure he would regale us with stuff that he knows. And then I would say, if I was in charge of Manchester United, like every other Man United fan, I wouldn't have come out that summer without a midfielder because it's the most obvious thing in the world.

32:33So if you're a lifelong Man United fan and you've invested money into this football club and you not only gain as a fan on our success, but also financially, what sort of lifelong fan doesn't buy a midfielder? I just, I cannot understand why you didn't do that because the only explanation is you're not a fan or you're a thick fan because I don't understand it, mate, Sir Jim, Sir. You know, I'd even call him Sir. I want the answer. That's what I would want to know. I want to talk about this Agate thing uh here's some mince and pasta now make me lasagna says duda do you think amarin was promised the midfielder even with bruno staying maybe he thought he would get the lap for cheap they would have used the budget towards a still stiller or a yormland says incognito let's come back to that midfield thing because there is an update from fabrizio so jim just sacked amarin with that statement says fez look if it's true i think it's we've got players coming out saying they don't like the system apparently you've got so jim radcliffe saying that team's good enough for top four.

33:35If I'm Ruben Amrim, I'm looking at this and going, I've got players giving up on me. I've got the owners setting unrealistic expectations. I know what the game is here. It's run for the hills and leave me as the one responsible. And that's fine. If I was Amrim, I'd be like, okay, I walked into this trap. Well done. I should have listened to people. These players will stab you in the back and so will the owners. Don't cry for me, Argentina. It's my own fault. I've walked into this just the same thing happened to jose ollie ten haag i'm a fool i'll be a rich fool but i'm a fool amarin gets the sack he can walk away very very rich he'll still have a good career elsewhere but we're still left with the problem that every time there's a problem the players turn on the manager and so do the owners and that's we're left with the problem look eric ten haag jose Mourinho, Ruben Amorim, their careers don't end.

34:29They earn a lot of money and they go elsewhere. You hound them out, get out my club and you blame them. But ultimately, the day they're sacked, they're free. We're still left with the players that will do it to the next manager and the owners that will do it to the next manager. We don't win. We never win by sacking a manager. There are people out there that think, sack the manager, ooh, sack the manager. We never win from this. I say this to people all the time. OK, sack the manager. Maybe you're right. But we won't win from that. We never have. It's never worked. It just makes things worse because the new manager needs players that will fight for them to the last breath and an ownership that will support them properly.

35:12And we've never had that. So. Bring another manager in. Let's ruin them as well. what Patrick said yesterday in donations should be writing in gold and give to the board of Man United says Chicken it was brilliant it was brilliant and thank thank you to our editor who clipped it up because I retweeted it and it had hundreds of thousands of views Patrick Lynch basically said last night this is not a system problem it's not a formation problem it's a style of play problem it was the same in the 4-3-3 they couldn't play Ten Hag ball they couldn't play Ranić ball. They can't play Amorim ball. It's not systematic.

35:48It's not formational. They just want to park the bus and counterattack. That's what they want to do. And no fan wants that. And no decent manager wants that. And yet we lose a manager every, well, every year now because the players want to play counterattacking football. Let's just stick with Amorim. We needed a reset and Amorim is trying to do it even with this leadership team. Sick to death of changing manager, says Ben. We wouldn't be in this position with Southgate, says Chris. Lifelong fruit flies that live for about 12 days in average, says Rooney. Alan Pardew is the man, says One Inch Wonder.

36:24The last time we had a proper midfield was when Sir Alex was in charge, says Sun Sim. How can you give Ruben the job and not sign a single player from his former club, but they did it with Ten Hag, says Paris. I would take that further, Paris, and I would say, how can you give a manager a job after Ten Hag and not give him a midfielder? Like, it's not a hot take, it's an obvious take. The biggest problem with Ten Hag's team was the midfield. We spoke about it for nine months and then the mainstream started talking about it as well. The midfield for Ten Hag was shit. And Amrim's using the same one.

37:00If Amrim gets sacked, who would you bring in? I've done that from Cameron. Just to think that Bayern Mbermo and Kunja forced Amrim to push Bruno at makes this transfer window even worse, says Dimitri. While Amrim has stuck with this system and Ten Hag didn't, they are making the same mistake. Wrong in-game tactics and loyalty to personnel instead of doing what's best for the team, says Jimmy R. Worrying thing is we need midfielders, but as much as I love Dorgou, Masraoui, it's becoming very clear we need wing-backs, barely 50 % through a proper rebuild. I have a big list after the Sunday game and I need to start working my way through it because I think we've spoken so much about the manager and the Bruno midfield problem, and they are big problems, but you're absolutely spot on.

37:42I like Dorgu, but he might not be ready for 18 months. He's 21, isn't he? 20, 21. He's just not the finished article, and he shouldn't be perceived to be that. He's not the finished article. There are good signs, but he isn't Mendes. He's not ready for the job. And down the right-hand side, I don't think we've actually got somebody that can do the job. So you're absolutely spot on. The wide players aren't up to it at the moment. This club is constipated and needs a giant enema. I'm so tired of the manager. Merry-go-round until we clear out all the low IQ turds that shat themselves in the Europa final.

38:21We're not going to prove, says Jeremy. Nuno or Southgate for managers is Big Z. I'd rather we did it as a community. I'd rather we were the manager we just pick a team on a Thursday by poll Cameron Willis thank you very much for joining the members club if Amrim sacked Zidane is the only answer old school winner proven ability aura to control and play at our pace not this score one concede one says Caleb the amount of players playing out of position in this team is ridiculous Shaw centre back Masraoui centre back Ahmad right wing back Bruno CDM Bienda goalkeeper and Deleu wherever he plays says Mira FTW PYP says I'm a Liverpool fan from India and easier Fun question.

39:01Do you like Liverpool fans take over as the owner? Will you still support United 10 years from now? It's a very weird one. Our neighbours have moved on. Our neighbours have moved on. Mahrez, De Bruyne, Karl Walker, Edison and more and still have a better squad, says Inu. Because that's what you do. We used to do it. Man City is just... If you're a younger fan, Man City's whole model is based on Man United. 100%. Man United if you can't remember the glory days of Man United what Man City do is based on us their brilliant youth system and their ability to move players out at the right time was our thing under Sir Alex Ferguson we had a really good youth system and we moved players out at the right time David Beckham Yap Stam Ruud van Nisseroy Roy Keane he would not have kept Lindelof that long he would not have kept Deleu this long.

39:59He would not have kept Luke Shaw this long. He would move. And if players were shit, they were gone really quick. The Cleversons, the Jemba Jembers, the Taibis, they were gone in the blink of an eye. All Man City have done is what any decent team does, is follow the method of other teams. And Man City are basically what Man United were 20 years ago. Jürgen Klopp's Liverpool, very similar to Manchester United. Sir Alex, I always said that and it was a compliment. The funny thing is we've forgotten what we used to be. Seth says, Sir Jim Radcliffe is an old geezer that say whatever he wants because he's a billionaire.

40:40He thinks everything he says is pure gold from the line-up against City. Only the lit Yaro and Burma were worthy of being a United player. Out and about with Job says, I think the absence of Martinez has been massively overlooked in the reasons for the run of bad results. We've missed the passion and the fight. PYP, thanks for joining the members club. Just in relation to Lissandro Martinez, I don't disagree with you on that point, by the way, but it's a little bit like, and I agree with what Gary Neville said on Sunday. I was listening to the post-match stuff with Keane and Neville and Mika on Sky, and the presenter mentioned injuries.

41:15No Kunya and Mao. And Gary Neville says, I'm not having that. I'm not having that because I'm not even going to talk about that because Because Man City didn't have Mamouche, Cherky, Stones. Like injuries are a problem, but everybody has them. And that's the same thing with Martinez, isn't it? Lissandro Martinez makes us a better team in a key position. He can step into the midfield. He's left-footed. I think he'd work really well. But he's basically been injured for two years. You can't wait for a player that's been injured for two years to come back and use it as an excuse. You go and buy a player that can do the job.

41:48And Luke Shaw can't do the job. So as much as we do miss Martinez, I think it's... My fellow Americans, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away$1 ,776 ,000 in price. And one lucky winner is going to take home$1 ,000 ,000 SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino.

42:34You know, we can't use it as an excuse. We've just come out of a transfer window and Martinez might come back and get injured again as well. Thanks for your comments this morning, by the way. Brilliant show, as per usual. Make sure you smash the like and subscribe. Remember, we're live every day at two and eight o 'clock as well. Ten o 'clock in the morning. Bit of a treat for you tonight as well My FC 26 Man United career mode Will be brilliant this year Because Man United aren't very good So it's the first career mode Where it's going to be really interesting Because we're not very good People are saying you need to play a 3-4-3 Surely the whole point of a Goldbridge Man United career mode Is to show you what I would do And I wouldn't play a 3-4-3 So I'm not playing a 3-4-3 But I have got some very interesting ideas About scouting and players I want to bring in that should be starting this week but as a little treat tonight at 6 p.m i will be live on the mark goldbridge channel playing fc26 at a very special location with some very interesting friends so the link is in the live chat for that put it in your diary six o 'clock uh and tune in i haven't played for a while and i think some of the people that are going to be playing pro clubs might be a little bit more high profile at this game than me but um we'll give it a go um john united says Makes sense the new stadium looks like a circus because Sir Jim is a clown.

43:52Does he even watch them play? Might as well start searching for a manager now. The shiny toys might buy him some more time. I just want to add to that, John. If Amarim gets sacked, Wilcox, Barada and Sir Jim should get sacked. They won't, but they're the decision makers. You're blaming the chef and not the restaurant owner. Like we need to. Well, we never learn from this, but the people who appoint Oli and Jose and Ten Hag and Ranić and Amrim are still at the club every time. And we all want to blame the manager and we know the players are responsible, but let's not forget the people who make these appointments and keep knocking us into more debt and knocking us further down.

44:36Man United are on a mountain and we keep falling down the mountain. Who's pushing us down? The people at the top. With Rot at the top, we can never return to our best, says Ricky. stage of manager down for one inconsistent performances two questioning tactics three manager will sack himself four players lose faith five owner statement sticking with a manager six manager sacks as big z nicks vid says amram started stated a while back that main who is competing for bruno main who demonstrated he should start over bruno why hasn't he look i somebody messaged me this morning saying if we lose to chelsea is that it no I don't think it is I think it will become worse than it is at the moment but I don't think that'll be it um I think they'll go to the international break no matter what um and obviously there's two winnable games after Chelsea in Brentford and Sunderland that ultimately will be sackable games because there's they're the games that you lose and you get you lose your job

45:38I think if I could get through to Amorim With positivity I would say whatever you do on Saturday Don't put Bruno in the midfield Even if you lose to Chelsea But Bruno's not in the midfield You'll buy yourself more time If you start Bruno in the midfield And you lose You're dead me If you start Bruno as a 10 And play Agate and Casemiro Or Agate and Maynou And we lose You'll give yourself more time it's that simple there will be outers of course there will but if he changes his midfield he will get himself more time I just don't know I don't think he will Amrim and Sajima both at fault Bruno staying says Rohan thank you very much I need to talk to you about Agate the last time fans are the culprits and they bring down the clubs says Tilak Amrim reputation does not merit his stubbornness says Kiel would you take Sanchez as United boss with Ranyuk as director of football Girona play brave attacking football and he's out of contract in 2026 is Gavin.

46:37The thing is, I'm not looking for a manager at the moment, Gavin. The thing is, I'm not convinced by any manager. Problem is, we never change. Therefore, it doesn't matter who we bring in. I'm not hammering him in or out. Elliot, I sort of agree with you. I don't think anybody comes into this situation and makes any change because we've done it so many times. You can't be successful in a situation where, you know it's a little bit like i would describe becoming the man united manager as the you know the new guy walking into the gladiator pit with all the gear and everybody goes oh show us your sword work oh show us how you defend yourself oh we like you we like you and then they circle you and they watch you and they realize where your weaknesses are and it's stab stab stab and the people who are circling you are the players and the owners they invite you in and they act like you're going to be the leader and they go oh look at his sword work look at his look at his shield oh look at that and what they actually do is they're eyeing up where your weaknesses are and then gradually they'll take you down invite you in as a friend and a leader and then they stab you.

47:48And it doesn't matter whether it's Xavi, Amarim, Ten Hag, every one of our managers has come in with, oh, look at them. They're going to be really good. And they get circled by the players and the owners and they spot their weaknesses and it's jab, jab, jab. And that's what will happen with the next manager as well. And that's the naivety out there is that nobody can tell me that's not the case. So if you're going to bring a new manager in, and we may well, Nobody can convince me that we won't be in this position in the near future. Because if you keep the same players and you keep the same owners, they've done it.

48:27These owners have already done it to Ten Hag and this will be Amrim. So they've got two. The Glazers have done it to about six. Some of these players have done it to three or four. Like it's the Game of Thrones, basically, isn't it? and the manager always ends it up isolated, surrounded and unable to fight the odds. It'd just become an island. The seeds are being planted for Amarim's departure, says Roy. Hey, sorry about your face, says as a Brighton supporter watching your club for the belabor stuff. Why did the owners sign two players that didn't fix any of your problems from last season? If you were put in as manager, what would be the first three things you would do, says Willem.

49:16I would change the midfield what now? I can't sign players now so Willem I would change the midfield

49:25I've got to do something in goal I don't even know what Le Mendes is like but I'd start Le Mendes in goal I would change the midfield I'd go Agate and Casemiro or Agate and Maynou I would put Bruno next to Embermo until Kunia comes back and I would probably stick with Masraoui at right wing back because I think he's better than Ahmad defensively. Yeah, that's what I would do. This is all excuses, says Davi. How many players had Amrim got rid of? Not even near Ten Hag. He's been backed and Jim Wright. Jim is not selecting the players. Don't make any sense, Davi, but thanks for your super chat. The reason it doesn't make sense, mate, is because you're trying to say that Amrim's been backed and we've just spent half an hour talking about how he's got the same midfield as Ten Hag.

50:12Keep Amrim, sell Fernandes, Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, Casemiro and build new, says Vishal. I can't wait for us to sack Amrim. And then in three months with the new shiny toy, we've got fans blaming the manager again. It's the fans fault as well, says Trey. We may as well have lost to City, but at least Casemiro looked lean, says Nina. I just want to say, I should have spoke about this earlier. Apologies. So this was from Fabrizio Romano. I would just say this, though. Fabrizio is one of the best transfer journalists in the game. And so is David Ornstein. And Ben Jacobs had a good summer. Why is it on the 16th of September?

50:50We're only finding this out now. Why was this never a thing throughout the summer transfer window? And Man United leaked like a sieve. So I'm not disputing the validity of the story. I'm just like why was this never even hinted once in the actual window so Fabrizio saying there was a possibility of Agate's exit this summer with Italian clubs interested but United decided to close the door on a loan this may change if a proposal arrives for a permanent transfer in 2026 this is from Fabrizio Romano right now I've left it towards the end of the show because I do sort of agree with what I just said why is this coming out in the middle of September and it was never mentioned before.

51:34But it's coming in from Fabrizio, so you have to respect it. All I take from that is there has to be an element of truth because of who he's coming from. And then secondly, what I take from it is it just exposes the hypocrisy again. Maynou wanted to go. Bruno should have been sold. And apparently we were considering Agate going and we wanted to get rid of Casemiro. What was the plan in the midfield then? Not to have one. I mean, we definitely wanted Casemiro gone. Maynou wanted to go. Agate, we were looking to move on. I mean, you couldn't have a more obvious statement that we messed up in the midfield.

52:21Like, we clearly wanted one, possibly two, and got none. And remember, we did try to get Conor Gallagher in the last few days of the window. we did spend two weeks talking to Belaber. We've completely, I mean, I don't really have anything to add other than the Agate story just proves what we already know. We've absolutely fucked up in the midfield, haven't we? Like, nobody can sit there and say, Every dating app swap is another loss. Jim bros, fake CEOs, straight up losers. So now the only app I open is Moto Casino, because at least there I'm surrounded by winners, real winners, thousands of them, while everyone else is in the single swamp.

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53:34So we basically messed up, haven't we? As Savage says, we basically planned a lot of things but ended up doing half the job. Yeah. Yeah, I think we ran out of time, didn't we?

53:49As I said, I wouldn't say it was a catastrophe transfer window, but I certainly don't think it was a good one. And all that does is prove that we messed up. We messed up. We messed up in the midfield. We messed up big time, says Palace. And, you know, whatever happens this season, I look at that midfield and it's definitely cost us. Well, Bruno cost us a goal against Burnley, not marking on the back post. Bruno cost us a goal against Fulham, not going with the Smith row runner. Bruno cost us a goal against Man City, not going with Foden. Somebody said Bruno get the corner away that Arsenal scored from, but that's on Beinder for me.

54:30So we are conceding goals and dropping points because of the midfield. And we clearly didn't do what we needed to do. And yet you've got Sir Jim Radcliffe who thinks we're a top 14. How can you be a top 14 when you haven't got the midfield sorted? How can you be a top 14 with an amateur in goal? How can you be a top 14 when you haven't got a midfield? You know, it's mad. It's absolutely mad. JP says Mark just hates Bruno. JP I think you need to relegate yourself from this community and go and find a simpleton community because you clearly aren't able to operate at this level of conversation because there is nobody in this chat that hates Bruno it's really simple we all want him to play as a 10 but in the midfield we hate it we hate Bruno as a midfielder in this system as a number 10 is where he should be it's not a hate on Bruno it's an appreciation of how good he is but how crappy he is in the midfield It's as simple as that.

55:24United should have done what Liverpool did with Coutinho, sold him and used the funds to upgrade. I love Bruno, but one player doesn't make a team, says Tirek. Karamad says, conspiracy. Is it crazy to think the board are a little sceptical about fully backing a manager with such a niche style, thus going for broader players rather than niche Amrim type players in case of failure? The problem with that conspiracy, Karamad, is that if you had that conspiracy, you would have bought midfielders because the one area of the pitch that will transform to a 3-4-3, a 4-3-3, a 5-3-2, a 4-4-2 is midfield.

55:59Like, that is the one area of our pitch where it transfers to any system, midfield. If you buy Wharton, Belieber, Gallagher, Jolmland, yes, they fit this system, but they also fit a 4-3-3. They also fit a 4-4-2. So as much as, yeah, you make a good point, you'd buy a midfielder it's the weakest area in the team and then and it's not system specific um okay thanks everybody for watching uh really appreciate your comments this morning we are back at two o 'clock i'm now going over to football terrace because it's hot takes uh where we react to some of the more controversial uh content of the weekend who knows what will be there uh don't forget six o 'clock tonight i'm playing pro clubs fc26 um which isn't even out yet so looking forward to that and uh be playing with some special guests so looking forward to that tune in if you want to um and have a great day i'll speak to you in a bit stay safe take care thank you very much for watching

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