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20 Sep 2025 · 50m · 17 chapters

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190: NO CHANCE! Amorim REFUSES To Change! Players BACK Him!

In short

Manchester United matchday discussion ahead of Chelsea, focusing on Ruben Amorim’s defiance about tactics/formation, Harry Maguire’s defense of the system, and debate over Bruno Fernandes’ role and discipline. The host also argues United’s problems are “environment/ownership” rather than one manager, and discusses Rashford/Ganacho/Osimhen-type narratives after players left.

Guests (on-air)

No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is driven by the host (“Uncle Lazer”) plus references to quotes from Amorim and Maguire, and audience chat comments.

Key claims

Amorim says he won’t change formation (“not even the Pope”), will fight for his dream, and that results—not philosophy—are the issue. Maguire claims the formation often evolves into a back four/back five and that criticism is misplaced; it’s the players. Amorim’s explanation of Bruno is framed as “best player, but lacks discipline,” implying Bruno doesn’t suit the midfield/10 role unless the team is winning.

Notable examples

Ten Hag criticized for abandoning Ajax identity; Bruno missing discipline/positioning; comparisons to Odegaard; Rashford’s Barcelona goal deflection; Ganacho’s improved accountability at Chelsea; goalkeeper discussion praising “Lemmens” (feet, presence, shot-stopping) and likely starting “Beinder.”

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Chapters

0:24

Match Day Expectations

Discussion about the significance of the match against Chelsea.

“Welcome to the United Stands and welcome to match day.”
0:48

Ruben Amorim's Defiance

Analyzing Ruben Amorim's comments on his coaching philosophy and commitment to the club.

“Is he acting more like a captain than Bruno Fernandes?”
2:10

Critique of Managerial Philosophy

Exploring the contradictions in managerial philosophy regarding tactics and player performance.

“And when the end comes, there's nothing I can do.”
4:48

Harry Maguire's Remarks

Discussion of Harry Maguire's defense of the formation and critique of player accountability.

“And he said this, look, did Sir Jim Radcliffe try to persuade you to change your tactics?”
7:48

Bruno Fernandes and Team Dynamics

Analyzing Amorim's comments on Bruno Fernandes' role and the need for discipline in the team.

“This is what he had to say about Bruno Fernandes, because I think this will probably catch the eye of a lot of people.”
14:00

Bruno Fernandes: Best Player but Out of Position

Discusses Bruno's skill set and suitability for the current system.

“I mean, everything, all the ingredients are in that statement.”
18:14

Comparing Player Environments: United vs. Top Clubs

Examines how player performance varies between clubs and environments.

“I think Amrim doesn't rate him as a 10 because he doesn't have the discipline he wants and yet he puts him into position where you do.”
21:26

Amorim’s Challenges and Fan Reactions

Explores the challenges faced by Amorim and the divided fan opinions.

“Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, they're winners.”
28:00

Divided Opinions on Amrim

The discussion revolves around the divided fanbase regarding Amrim's future and the environment at the club.

“Like, you know, there's people adamantly that, you know, we've got to get rid of Amrim.”
31:53

Analyzing the Environment for Players

Discussion on the importance of environment in player performance and comparisons between clubs.

“Man United is the right choice, but Newcastle is the better environment.”
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36:19

Leadership and Accountability Issues

Exploration of the accountability of leadership within the team and player dynamics.

“A win, it would make me happy because I'm sad at the minute, but let's get it today.”
41:44

Closing Thoughts on Team Balance

Final reflections on the team's balance and the potential impact of upcoming matches.

“Don't care what Harry Maguire has to say.”
42:00

Bruno and Ganacho: A Unique Bond

Explore the evolving relationship between Bruno and Ganacho at Manchester United.

“I will just say about that, there has been times in the past where if Ganaccio did what he did and came back to Old Trafford, there'd be certain players that would, you know, let him know his error of his ways.”
42:56

Modern Football Culture

Discuss the changing dynamics in football and players' social media presence.

“I mean, I sense that there is a father-son relationship between Bruno and Ganacho.”
44:15

Concerns Over Leadership and Team Morale

Analyze Bruno's leadership and the impact of player morale on Manchester United.

“I just think all it does is portray the fact that the modern footballer doesn't read the room.”
45:20

Wilcox Interview Insights

Insights from Jason Wilcox about the challenges and transformations at Man United.

“I hope he doesn't because he'll miss and get sent off.”
48:51

The State of Manchester United

A deep dive into the issues facing Manchester United and the need for patience.

“I just pray we get the opportunity to turn things around.”
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0:00Hi! Uncle Lazer here. America's built on fast cars, fast food, and even faster women. Moto Casino's built in America. You know what they're fast at? Fast cash, rise, redemption. You see, only Moto is U.S. owned and operated. Moto. It's American-made. That's who we are, and that's who we care about. Play for free at Moto.us. Moto Casino's the social casino. Avoid were prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Must be 21+. Moto Casino. America's social casino. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands and welcome to match day. It's a big day for Manchester United and it's a big day for us to win against Chelsea.

0:40Hopefully that's what matters. That's all that matters. But Ruben Amrim has sent some strong messages to you this morning. We're going to unpack that. Harry Maguire also having his say. Is he acting more like a captain than Bruno Fernandes? We'll get into his comments too. but I want to start off with Ruben Amrim. Further comments, more interviews. I mean, more interviews than Alan Sugar again. I mean, I don't even know where a lot of these quotes are coming from now. Some of them are from the press conference. Some of them are from Sky. So he's been at it again, but there's some interesting stuff to get into.

1:12Even the Pope himself won't change Amrim's formation. That's Amrim's defiance there. He's also spoken about the use of Bruno Fernandes. A very, very detailed explanation about Bruno Fernandes and why he uses him in the midfield. But I have a very big thing to say about that. I'll read it before though. But let's start off with some of the things he's got to say. He said, I understand that if I don't win, people will say I should leave, but that's not my responsibility. That's up to the board. I'll fight with all my might to continue my dream. I want to manage this club? You never know. It happened with Sir Alex Ferguson.

1:51One game changed history. So I fight every day. The next game will be the game that changes my history. That's my job. When the time comes, it's not my decision. So I'm not worried about that. And I'll be fine. I'll say the same thing. I'll be fine. But I'll fight every day because this is my dream. This is the only club I want to coach. And I'll fight until the end. And when the end comes, there's nothing I can do. So a very, very defiant message from Ruben Amirim there around the fact that, yeah, there has been rumours about him walking. But ultimately, I'm quite pleased with that statement because no manager should walk from Manchester United.

2:28You're walking away from£12 million, you know, and I know financials aren't everything. But why? If Ruben Amirim walked away tomorrow, the only people he's pleasing are the people that want him out. You know, I would say I don't want him out. A lot of you don't want him out. And I would say that's an incredibly brave thing to do. And it makes a statement about how badly the club is run. But he wouldn't be cheered by the Amramount Brigades. And he wouldn't be cheered by Sir Jim Radcliffe because they'd be saving money. So I don't think he should walk. Why should he walk? If this doesn't work out, it's because the people who appointed him got it wrong or didn't back him or whatever like that.

3:04They should pay for that mistake. So I'm very glad that he's saying, you know, I won't be walking away. it's down to them to replace me because yeah they should pay for their mistake if they're going to do that so I absolutely agree with that he also said I remember that all the media and the fans were saying that a Manchester United manager must have a philosophy and an identity everyone was saying that when the previous coach said he wouldn't play the same way here as he did at his former club everyone was saying that he'd been hired for a philosophy and his style of play and that he wasn't applying it here so the system isn't the problem it's the results if you don't win, people will point the finger at something.

3:38We will change our way of playing, but it will take time. I do things at my own pace. If I look at the matches, I think we've been unlucky. Look that we can turn around by being more aggressive and more confident. Sometimes we play well, but it lacks conviction. Again, very intelligent from Amrim. What do you think about that? Because what he's basically saying is that we had Eric Ten Hag here who said, I can't play the way I played against Ajax because I haven't got the players to do it. And he got criticised for that because that's what he was brought here to do. We now have a manager saying, I'm not going to change my philosophy to work with the players here.

4:10And I'm being criticised for that as well. Well done, Ruben Amrim, for pointing out the hypocrisy that exists, not only in our fan base, but also in the media in this country. Eric Ten Hag publicly abandoned what he was all about at Ajax that got him the job at Man United because he didn't feel the players could do it and still ultimately got sacked and got criticised for it. Ruben Amrim's doing the opposite and is still getting criticised for it. Personally, I think if you have a way of playing and it's your identity, you're better off dying on your principles than changing your principles. And I think you've got to respect that at the end of the day.

4:45He will not change his formation. He said that numerous times. And he said this, look, did Sir Jim Radcliffe try to persuade you to change your tactics? He said, no, no, no, not once, not even the Pope. It will not change. This is my job. This is my responsibility. And this is my life. And he won't change. Look, stubbornness can be a problem. But ultimately, I do respect the honesty. And that's something about Amrim I've always admired. He is very, very honest. Ultimately, if you fall on your sword in life, but you stick to your principles, then you walk away with your principles. If you change your principles and you still lose your job, i.e.

5:23Ten Hag and Oli, you walk away without your principles. I mean, remember Oli going to a back five at the end to try and rescue his job. It didn't work, did it? So, you know, I admire people who stick to their guns and what they're all about. He said that this system will have an evolution. I am doing things my way and some guys do things in another way, but it will change. I hope I have the time to change because it will change. This is where I wanted to bring in what Harry Maguire had to say, because I think this is really, really interesting. I think the formation is an easy one to go at because we're playing something a little bit different to everybody else.

5:59The formation has been fine. It's got to be down to the players, says Harry Maguire. And he goes on to say a lot more than that. But basically, he said, look, there's nothing wrong with the formation. Three at the back. Actually, most of the time it evolves into a four at the back. But people don't see that because it's easy to attack us. And I thought, you know what? in a week where the players are very, very silent. Why is it Harry Maguire coming out and saying these things? Basically, what he said in the interview was that I've played the game. I've played under Amirim. And from day one, it's not always been a back three.

6:35Sometimes it's a back five and a lot of the time it's a back four. But no one wants to talk about that because the results aren't the way they should be. So everybody focuses in on the formation. There's nothing wrong with the formation. Sometimes it is a back four. Sometimes it is a back five. It's the players. And you know what? That's from basically the vice captain. And you've got all these pundits and you've got all these fans saying, change the formation, change the formation. It's massively vindicating when the vice captain of the football club comes out and says, there's nothing wrong with the formation.

7:08We're actually playing a back four a lot of the time. It's almost ridiculing the criticism of the formation because I've seen it, but I'm just a fan. Some of you've seen it, but you're just a fan. And you get drowned out by this, we've got to change the formation. We've got to change the formation. It's so obviously the players. It's so obviously the players. And Harry Maguire is absolutely correct. It's refreshing. It's a shame Harry Maguire is not over five years younger because I do think he's on the decline naturally because of his age. I think you know but he works better in this system you know he definitely definitely does but I think he's absolutely spot on and I think more players should be coming out and taking responsibility for that I mean we heard Bruno last week the captain after the game basically throwing a young player under the bus and blaming the formation for his own inadequacies you know he can't track runners in the midfield but I do think it comes down to the players absolutely absolutely and I think that sort of thing is so important at a time like this when we're desperate We're absolutely desperate to get results.

8:11This is what he had to say about Bruno Fernandes, because I think this will probably catch the eye of a lot of people. I mean, it's quite in depth before I get into your comments. So this is what he said about Bruno Fernandes and his role in the team. He says, if you remember, Bruno wants all the freedom in the world. Even when he played a 10 role, he is getting the ball back. Maybe he's not getting the same freedom to get inside the box, but he's getting there and he's getting near the box and he can do his shots. It is a position where I want Bruno more deep to have more possession and to try and control more of the game.

8:43We are doing that but sometimes we're missing a little Bruno in the front. Maybe because Kunja is not there and maybe so it is because we want an extra player there. I'm trying to balance the team and imagine the game. I want to put the best starting XI there and I see Bruno is frustrated only because we are not winning games. Sometimes he likes to go further forward but he has an important job to do. The important thing to do is the team playing well. If the team is playing well and winning football games, then he can play in different positions. I mean, I think that's four paragraphs of he's got no position or discipline.

9:17I appreciate Amirim's detail, but the fact that he basically spoke for four paragraphs and didn't really say the big problem with Bruno. I mean, look, he wants to get his best players on the pitch. and all that says to me is Bruno Fernandes is frustrated because he's not playing higher up the pitch but if the team plays well he can play higher up the pitch he wants to be involved even when he's a number 10 he's everywhere I mean I think he just described a player that's got no position or discipline no matter where you put him and we've spoken about this like I remember saying this last year Bruno is a 10 I crave an Odegaard like an Odegaard number 10 I mean Odegaard's not playing well for Arsenal.

9:58That's not what I mean. But Odegaard is a number 10 that stays in the number 10 area. Bruno does not do this. He doesn't stay in the position. And basically, what Amirim has basically said there is, and I found it a little bit weird, because what he's basically saying is, is that Bruno is frustrated. Hi, Uncle Lazer here. America's built on fast cars, fast food, and even faster women. Moto Casino is built in America. You know what they're fast at? Fast cash prize redemption. You see, only Moto is U.S. owned and operated. Moto. It's American made. That's who we are. And that's who we care about.

10:36Play for free at Moto.us. Moto Casino is the social casino. Avoid were prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Must be 21 plus. Moto Casino. America's social casino. Because he wants to get forward. But even when he plays forward, he gets back. And if the team plays well, he can get forward more. And he needs to understand that, you know, we need him to stay back and be disciplined. But what Amrim is basically acknowledging is that Bruno's got no discipline. And we already know this. He's a problem at 10 sometimes because he's got no discipline. He's everywhere and nowhere.

11:13He's right back, he's left back when he should be number 10. And as a centre midfielder where you probably need the most discipline on the pitch, he's everywhere and nowhere. so look I understand the explanation of Amrim and you know you can read that back and sort of figure out what he's saying yourself basically what I think he's saying is and I don't I don't disagree with it I think he's saying he's our best player and we need our best players on the pitch but he needs to be more patient and disciplined and then he will play better and the team will win games and I think that's what he was basically saying because when he says that you know Bruno Bruno is frustrated only because we're not winning games.

11:53He likes to go forward, but he has an important job to do. And the important thing to do is the team playing well. And if the team is playing well and winning football games, then he can play in different positions. I think what we're basically saying is that Bruno Fernandes wants a free role in this team. But to have a free role, the team needs to be winning. winning. I mean, look, a lot of people see that from Amerim as, you know, he's backing Bruno. I see it completely differently. And look, I don't want to over egg the pudding here, but listen to it again and tell me at the end of this, is this publicly backing Bruno or is this publicly saying he's a bit of an issue?

12:33If you remember, Bruno wants all the freedom in the world. I mean, that's not a great start. You know, even when he played a 10 role, he's getting the ball back. Maybe he's not getting the same freedom to get in the box, but he can still do his shots. It is a position where I want Bruno to be deep and have more possession and to try and control the game. More discipline. We're doing that, but sometimes we're missing little of Bruno at front, maybe because Kunja's not there. I'm trying to balance the team and imagine the game. I want to put the best players out there, and I see Bruno is frustrated because we're not winning.

13:04He likes to go further forward, but he's got an important job to do. The important thing is to win and the team playing well. If the team is playing well and winning, he can play in different positions. So look, you can read that a multiple amount of ways. But I read that as that, you know, Bruno's our best player. So I've got to play him. He's frustrated about where I'm playing him. But he needs to play for the team and not for himself. And when the team's winning and playing well, he'll get more freedom. So what he's basically saying, I think, is Bruno is not disciplined enough. his indiscipline is leading to frustration.

13:40What he needs to do is be disciplined. The team will perform better and then you'll get more freedom from that. Ultimately, in a roundabout way, Bruno doesn't suit that position. Now, did Amorim want to sell Bruno? No. Did the club want to sell Bruno? No. Is Amorim acknowledging that Bruno doesn't suit that position? Sort of, yes. I mean, everything, all the ingredients are in that statement. He wants freedom. He lacks discipline. He's meant to be controlling the game from deep, but doesn't really want to do it. He's not a midfielder. I'm worried about the game today. You've got Enzo Fernandes, Kaiseido, Cole Palmer.

14:22Maybe Rhys James will be in there again. They've got energy. They've got positional discipline. I worry about the game today. And Bruno doesn't suit this system. And I want to get proven wrong because I want Amrim to do well. But I think Amrim there is acknowledging that Bruno doesn't suit this system. Bruno wants to play further forward. I agree. Bruno wants to play as a number 10. I agree. But what Amrim is saying is that even when he plays as a number 10, he lacks discipline. You just, Amrim gives you the answer. You just need to break it down. I saw so many people reacting to that saying, oh, look at him backing Bruno.

14:57I think when you read it, he's not. What he's basically saying is the player lacks, is the best player in the team, but he lacks discipline. And even if you put him as a 10, he lacks the discipline I want because he's everywhere. What Amarin wants from his 10s is them to stay up the pitch. He wants them to stay up the pitch so that you can press high up and you can counter with numbers. And what he's saying with Bruno is you put Bruno in a 10, he's got no position or discipline. He won't be there. So I'm putting him in a position where I think I can make him work. but we all know that's a problem.

15:33Honestly, we should have sold Bruno. We all know it. It doesn't suit the system. And if you can't play him as a 10, it's a problem. And I found it really interesting what Amrim said, because I don't think he's backing Bruno there. I think he's saying he lacks discipline and we all bloody know that. Bruno does have elite pass. Look, also, before I read this from Hayans, the best case, I was having this chat with somebody yesterday. They were saying, you know, you've got to pick Bruno. And I said, the problem with Bruno is he's our best player. This is too, this is, this debate is way too in depth for most people to understand.

16:08I mean, you imagine those morons who listen to that radio station phoning in that this is going over their head like a fucking pigeon. Bruno's our best player. I think a lot of us acknowledge that. Absolutely. How are you a hater of Bruno if you're saying he's our best player? This is what, these morons don't understand. They just want to create hate. Bruno's our best player, in my opinion. I know Ricky and co. might disagree, but I think Bruno's our best player. But just because you're the best player, look at PSG. Neymar, Messi, Mbappe, best players, but they're better without them. That blows people's mind who don't understand it.

16:48It's like being in a relationship with the best looking, best personality, best fit person in the world. But it might not work. It might not work. And people don't understand that in life. Just because it's the best thing doesn't mean it works. So Bruno is our best player, in my opinion. But imagine you're putting Bruno as a midfielder against Chelsea today. If everything goes perfectly, is he still a good midfielder? And this is what I sort of look at it as. If Bruno has his best game possible as a midfielder, is he better than Declan Rice, Rodri, Caicedo, even Agate? No, because Bruno doesn't have the traits to be a midfielder.

17:33Even if he's disciplined and gets the ball and looks after the ball, he's still going to lose out in 50-50s. He's still not going to track the player. He's still not going to know how to mark people because he doesn't have those skills. so even if Bruno has the best game he can in the midfield he still lacks about 70 % of what you actually need all he can do is be disciplined get the ball and play his passing game which he's very very good at and give you energy but he's not a midfielder even on his best day so I think that that's the thing for me he's massively out of position and that's going to cause his problems and I'm not sure he's a fit for this team.

18:14I think Amrim doesn't rate him as a 10 because he doesn't have the discipline he wants and yet he puts him into position where you do. Robert McCormack says he's overall backed him by keeping him. Yes, I agree with you, Robert. Somebody in the chat said maybe Amrim didn't want to keep Bruno. I think he did. I think his brain overruled him with you can't sell your best player who is the captain. But I don't think he's absolutely convinced. I just think it's like a little bit like getting Ollie Watkins over Sesco. In the short term, you're going for experience. And I think that might have been why kept Bruno.

18:50But it's interesting. Bruno does have elite passing, says Hainz. And Vision, maybe he should be more disciplined. But I see Bruno working in other clubs in that free roam, says Hainz. Look, it's really interesting. I'm going to get into some of your comments. But there was some comments made about Rashford. There was some comments made about Ganacho, etc. You put Bruno Fernandes. I literally thought this the other night. You put Bruno Fernandes in a Real Madrid team or a Barcelona team or a Bayern Munich team, he'd cook. And people would go, United's the problem. And this is what I find really weird.

19:24It's not. Why is it not the player's problem? You know, a player goes somewhere else and they suddenly perform. I mean, come on. You're going on to a pitch in a Man United shirt. you've either got the minerals or you haven't and yes I think Bruno Fernandes would cook in a Real Madrid shirt a Barcelona shirt a Bayern Munich shirt but he's surrounded by better players where you play in the Champions League by default every year and the environment is much better and the club is run better I think that's the explanation I look at Rashford at Barcelona they're in the Champions League every year they're going to compete for the title every year They're a well-run football club that's focused on football.

20:05The environment's better. But the players still have a responsibility to perform in a Man United shirt. I don't think you get a get out of jail card just because other clubs are run better than Manchester United. And I certainly don't think it reflects on the manager. I think it reflects on the owners. I think the environment at other clubs is better than Manchester United. and I'm sort of tired of people going, oh, every player that leaves Man United cooks. And they almost want to put it on the manager. But some of these players underperformed under Ten Hag. Some of them underperformed under Oli.

20:40So how can it be three different manager's faults? The problem lies with the way the club is run, the environment. That's not the manager. I've seen people over the last couple of days trying to pin the Rashford issue on Amirim. Rashford was bad before Amirim came.

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21:32They want to win. That comes from the top down to the bottom and it feeds into the players. Chelsea have that mentality with Gennaccio. He's looking better already. Now, some of this might wear off because it's the honeymoon, but it might not because their focus is on the pitch where our focus is somewhere else. to be fair Amrim did get asked about Rashford and what he basically said is that I've got the quote here he was asked about Ganacho as well let me read it out to you he was asked about Rashford's goal for Barcelona he said Rasmus scored as well I'm happy for Rasmus also it's the same thing with him you are so tough on Rasmus but he also scored let's notice that look I got a load of stick on Thursday night because when Rashford scored that goal I said that's the last thing Amorim's going to want.

22:20And people were like, can't even praise Rashford. I don't have to praise Rashford. I don't have to jump in the air and say, get in. He's a brilliant player. I don't have to do that. I said it was a good goal. I want him to do well. I want him to go to Barcelona permanently. But my loyalty is Manchester United. I don't do player FC. And I said at the time, that's going to cause Amorim problems. And can I get an apology? No, I won't. What was his response to being asked about the Rashford goal? Didn't even acknowledge it. spoke about Rasmus. Some people need to wind their neck in and realise some of us do know and understand the game.

22:54And when that goal went in for Rashford, I ain't going to stand up and start jumping around because Rashford plays for Barcelona now. I'm still pissed that he down tools at United. But ultimately, he's moved on. He's not like Garnaccio. I want him to do well, but I ain't going to celebrate his goals like I'm a bloody fanboy. My loyalty is to Manchester United. And I said at the time when that goal went in, that's not good for Amrim. And people were like, why is your first thought that? Because my first thought is Manchester United. And when Amrim gets asked about it, he deflects the question to talk about Rasmus because obviously that's caused him problems.

23:30You can tell it's caused. He doesn't want to acknowledge Rashford because it's a kick in the nuts. My priority is Manchester United. Player FC exists. I get that. I respect that. They'll be back with their death threats as normal because they're weirdos. But the reality is it did cause Amrim a problem and that is caught in 4k so if you're a Rashford fanboy or player FC or whatever it is fair play a lot of people are and it was a great goal and you enjoyed it but I was right that caused Amrim problems and you can celebrate that this morning because he completely and utterly deflected the question there was no acknowledgement of it at all um also on Ganacho he was asked whether he fears a backlash regarding Ganacho he says I'm not worried about it.

24:11I want to win matches. I don't care who plays for the opponent or what people will say in the end if a player performs the match and my players is my only concern. But you know what? I sort of disagree with that. I think when Rashford scores goals like that in the Champions League, he's not scoring it against Getafe. You know, it's against Newcastle in the Champions League. It's a high profile goal. If Garnaccio plays well today and scores, it's a high-profile goal against Manchester United, these things causing problems. Of course they do. The funny thing is, in the summer, 99.9 % of our fans were saying, get rid of Rashford, get rid of Ganacho.

24:49It's the hypocrisy that makes me laugh. It's the fact that, you know, everybody was saying, get rid of Ganacho and Rashford in the summer, and then they perform well. Why did we get rid of them? And yet you can actually go back through their tweets before they delete them and go, you're a hypocrite. You're a hypocrite. But it's just the same as what I said yesterday. At the start of the season, before a ball was kicked, all I saw was we can't go in on Amrim. We must blame the Glazers. We must blame Sir Jim. They haven't bought him a goalkeeper. They haven't bought him a midfielder. Sesko was bought into different too late.

25:23If we have a bad start to the season, this is on the owners. We can't be saying Amrim out. We lose to Man City. Amorim out. Amorim out. It's so predictable. It's so predictable. It's so predictable, isn't it? And you can't change it. It is what it is. But these same people who were like, get Ganacho out. If he scores today, what did we let him go for? Why did we let him go? Oh, you know what? We will have a bad start to the season because Sir Jim and co haven't had a good transfer window again. Lose to Man City. Amorim out. Oh, Amorim out. Yeah, it's like, you know you can't deal with that sort of conversation but it is welcome to the real world you know those conversations will happen um the only way to solve this is by winning games the only way to solve it is by winning games and hopefully we can do that today but i am worried i'm up for the fight i think we have to be i'm up for the fight i'm ready to go but i am worried because chelsea are a good side and i think they will come with confidence But I think we'll get something out of the game today.

26:27And I think we deserve to. I don't think it's been as bad a start to the season as people think. But individual errors of costas. I don't believe in bad luck. And I think when Amrim says we've been unlucky, I think that always, you know, bad luck reminds me of blaming referees. And I don't blame referees anymore. You'll notice I don't do that unless it's something ridiculous. I don't blame them because I think you make your own luck in football. And look, it wasn't bad luck that Bruno Fernandes lost Phil Foden. It wasn't. It was bad defending. It wasn't bad luck that Biinder cost us the point against Arsenal.

27:08It was bad goalkeeping. And, you know, it wasn't bad luck that Bruno missed that penalty that would have basically won us the game against Fulham. It was bad finishing. So it's not bad luck. We've made mistakes. There's been good performances. There's been good moments. I mean, I thought the performance against Arsenal was good. I thought for 10 minutes against Fulham, we were good. I thought the first half against Burnley were good. And I thought the first 20 minutes against Man City were good. But that's not unlucky. It's bad mistakes that are costing us and the mental side of the game. Amrim's absolutely spot on.

27:43When things go against us, the mental side of the game sort of disappears. But we've got an opportunity tonight. and I just really hope we can win. I hope we can win for you and me. Like, I think we, you know, it's tough and I hate the states of the fan base at the moment. It's just so divided again. Like, you know, there's people adamantly that, you know, we've got to get rid of Amrim. We've got to get rid of Amrim. There's people that want to back him. I mean, 74 % of you are Amrim in and 25 % are Amrim out. You know, 25 % of people would take that risk of Southgate And that's scary. And that's fine.

28:21That's on you. And that's your, you can do that. But that scares me that 25 % of people would sack Amrim and take the risk. I mean, it might not be Southgate, but they would take that risk. And that worries me because we're a fan base. And whilst we do disagree, I think in the main, you know, what we built here as a community, especially, is a very fair one. And we do have, you know, very, you know, open and honest conversations. But we disagree and we should disagree. That's the way it should be. But it's a worrying position that the club are in at the moment. And look, going back to Rashford, going back to Ganacho, going back to Rasmus, what's the real story there?

29:08Why have they gone in a short period of time? And do they look happier? And you know what? It's the environment. It's not the manager. The manager doesn't dictate the environment as a club, really. The ownership does. Napoli's a well-run club. They've just won the league. They're in the Champions League. Barcelona is a well-run club. They've just won the league. They're in the Champions League. Chelsea is a well-run club. They're in the Champions League. They've just won the Club World Cup. That's my instant answer to anybody who says, why are these players doing well? Most people want to go, oh, it's Amrim.

29:44It's the club. And I go, Betis played in a bloody Conference League final. They've had an amazing season. Anthony, good environment. Fans are happy. Napoli, just won the league in the Champions League. Well-run club. Fans are happy. Barcelona, just won the league. They're in the Champions League. Well-run club. Fans are happy. Chelsea, fans are happy. The environment that these players are going into is a breath of fresh air compared to United where it's just not that. So, you know, I'd be very interested how Ganaccio would perform at Aston Villa with their start to the season. I'd be very interested to see how Marcus Rashford would perform at Atletico Madrid with their start to the season.

30:30And I'd be very interested to see how Rasmus would have performed at AC Milan. I remember saying about Rasmus, I said, don't go to Milan. Milan's just the Italian Man United. I wouldn't go anywhere near Milan. Napoli, brilliant. And I think that explains it. Rasmus had an offer from Milan and Napoli. Milan's a bigger club, but Napoli's the right move. The environment, where they are, what they're fighting for. Napoli is the right club. Milan's the bigger club, but the environment's not great. And we're a bad environment. That's my point. Man United's a bad environment. If I was a player, I would always choose Man United because I'm a Man United fan.

31:14But honestly, Newcastle or Man United at the moment, Newcastle's a better environment. You're probably going to perform. You know, you look at Sesco. Would Sesco perform at Man United or Newcastle better? Here's golf legend John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces. I only spent on Moto, America's social casino. You know, I've won a couple of majors. And on Moto, I've won majors, grands, and epic jackpots on their classic Vegas slots with huge, huge bonus rounds. Moto Casino adds new games and awards players free coins every single day. Grip it and spend it on Moto Casino.

31:47Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. What we're prohibited, no purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino, America's social casino. Man United is the right choice, but Newcastle is the better environment. And I think people don't see that. They talk about managers. They talk about players, but the environment's really, really important. Christian says, a big part of the problem is that we're good in small parts of the 90 minutes. The consistency is lacking. Good first last 20 minutes won't win his game, says Christian. Yeah. And that's what worries me about today is like the midfield terrifies me.

32:25I have faith in the defence. It's very interesting what Harry Maguire said, actually, as well. Harry Maguire's had a cracking interview this week. Very good. Backing the manager, sticking up for the system. Also had this to say about Lamens. He said, really impressed. He has all the qualities to be a top keeper. He's excellent with his feet. He has great presence and he's really good at stopping shots. Put him in goal. Put him in goal. If Harry Maguire is saying those three things about a goalkeeper he's only worked with for a week, you can say what you like about Maguire. He's slow. He's made mistakes.

33:00he's had a great comeback he's had some great moments he is coming towards the end of his career but he's a heart on his sleeve player I mean he's no Roy Keane you know he's no Gary Neville he's no Paul Scholes he's no Vidic he ain't on that level but in a team that's not very good Harry Maguire is one of the standouts certainly when it comes to leadership he's not a bullshitter he wouldn't say those things if they weren't true if he has seen in training that he's got great feet, he's got great presence and he's a very good shot stopper. Put him in goal. Put him in goal tonight. I don't think he will be.

33:38I think it'll be Beinder again. But if Harry Maguire is saying those three things about that goalkeeper, let's go with it. Because what that means is if Maguire is saying those things, it means he trusts him. He won't trust Anana and he won't trust Beinder. but they'll protect him as well. They'll help him. I'd give him a go like Lee Berman says. I really would. Rashford and Rasmussen are now in better dressing room, says David. Amram is also partly to blame, says Solskjaer. Yeah, 100%. You know, 100%. I don't think anybody's saying that the manager is blameless. If you lose games, you're always going to get scrutiny.

34:18But Ten Hag wasn't blameless. Jose wasn't blameless. Oli wasn't blameless. Rangick wasn't blameless, but they're not to blame. The environment of the football club is 100 % on the owners. The owners set the environment. They create the environment. You know, the environment at Man United is bad. Garnaccio is passing. He's thinking, I can't joke around here. Palmer, Pedro, those are some serious boilers. I better lock in. Our team is the problem, says Chris. Well, we always said this, Chris. I watched Garnaccio against Bayern the other night when he came on and it's pass, pass, pass. He's always looking to pass.

34:57He had one shot and he was so apologetic. At United, didn't want to pass, shoot all the time, didn't give a shit. You're absolutely spot on, Chris. It is an environmental thing again. I always said about Garnaccio and Anthony and even Rashford, why aren't players telling them off? And there isn't anybody on that pitch telling them off. There was no accountability. but you can see it already with Ganacho that accountability is there it's like he is passing and he never did that at United it's weird imagine how the media reacts if Ganacho scores today oh thank you very much Warrior Bruno was more disciplined when watching him in the international break so if he's not being disciplined in Man United his loyalty needs to be questioned says Jungle G well some people feel that Bruno's checked out Look, I think he's going to Saudi at the end of the season.

35:50For me, it's like a manager that's leaving at the end of the season. Are they really focused? And I think that's why some people are saying he's not. I would never question Bruno's commitment to the cause. And he might not go to Saudi in the summer. But if he does go to Saudi in the summer, I think Man United messed up big time. You should never have a player that's waiting for 12 months. You should never have a manager that's waiting for 12 months. I'm hoping for a draw today. A win, it would make me happy because I'm sad at the minute, but let's get it today. What's your prediction, says Jacob?

36:25I've gone with a Man United win. Why not? If Bruno was sold, who would be the new captain, says Crocodile Man?

36:36I think De Ligt can do it. I think he's probably the best one for it. I think Cunha's got captain capabilities at some point.

36:47Look, I don't think you should ever go back. And I nearly said Harry Maguire, but if Harry Maguire is not going to start, then I think it should be De Litt. I hate to say this because I think Xerxes is an insanely... And look, people forget that De Litt won the title with Ajax at 19 as a captain. He has got those capabilities. I don't know why De Litt's not on the leadership team, though. I mean, looking at Amirim's leadership team, if Bruno left, it would be Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, De Lowe. they're the only ones from the leadership team that get near the first team I mean Luke Shaw being the captain is just ridiculous it's like asking Ronald McDonald to look after your count I mean it's just a bad fit this is a guy that how can he be a leader when he basically prioritized playing for England over Man United I don't know I don't get that I hate to say this because I think Xerxes is an insanely technical and talented player but given how underutilized he's been should have sold him says Rajaf big season for Xerxes definitely Patrick Lynch says we have a group of professional players who everyone believes are capable of more it's crazy after 10 months under a manager that some expect the manager to change and adapt but not the players thank you Patrick hope you're doing well how can you expect a squad with great mentality when a majority of your leadership group are experts in failure we'll never progress until Bruno Shaw Maguire are gone and we can build from scratch as chip thank you Hines and Robert McCormack getting the basics wrong is the problem with Amarim we won't move forward with him and he will be gone in a few games' time, says Tillak.

38:14I mean, where I do agree with you on that, on the basics, is we're a better team with Maynou or Casemiro playing where Bruno is than we are with Bruno because Bruno is a better player than Maynou and Casemiro, but Casemiro and Maynou are not square pegs in round holes. They are midfielders and it's a little bit like this. If you've got a player who's a 9 out of 10, but you play them out of position, It's like chemistry on FC 26. You put, you know, a brilliant winger as a midfielder. They might be a nine out of ten winger, but in the midfield, they'll go down to a five because they're out of position, which means a six and a half midfielder is better than that nine winger in midfield because you're playing the winger out of position.

39:03And I feel like that's what we're doing with Bruno. We're taking a player that's nine out of ten. And by putting him in the midfield, he drops to a five and a half. well Mainu and Casemiro are better than a five and a half and that's the logic I would use you know balance is more important than ability and again I use PSG that front three of Mbappe Neymar are messy on paper people are running to the toilet to get the tissues but in reality you're going to be crying because you're not going to be doing what you want to do with those tissues, you're going to be crying because they're not going to track back.

39:40They don't really want to pass to each other. It's just Galacticos, you know? Can Amrim not coach him to play in whatever position Amrim wants? If he ain't following instructions, sub him or drop him, says Rory Seaton. And I think, Rory, you've nailed it. You sort of get to the point where the best player in the team is being accommodated because they're the best player in the team. But the clue is in team. Is the team better with the best player in the team being accommodated into the team? Or is the team better with balance? I choose balance. Reece says, Amram is pushing a revolving door in the wrong way, going nowhere.

40:20He needs to change the players if he won't change the formation. Manu must start. Rob says, I want Amram to succeed, but he's got to start winning games. Results matter. I still feel the club as a whole is fundamentally broken. and hopefully one day we're going to wake up again and be the club we can beat. I think it's so multifaceted as well. I think there's so many avenues you can go down. Let me say this. If Man United beat Chelsea today, and that's a big if, I won't sit here and say we're back because next week, if Bruno's in the midfield, I think we could get beat by Brentford because it's a weakness.

40:51And that's how I feel about Man United. I don't feel like, you know, Amrim himself says, you know, a win can change history like it did for Sir Alex Ferguson when he won that game against Forrest and they went on to win the FA Cup and then they did well in the league. One game can change the course of history because the consistency can follow. I don't feel we're one win away from changing a pattern because I don't like the balance of that team and whilst it can win we beat Aston Villa with Casemiro and Bruno as the midfield two. We nearly got a result against Arsenal with Bruno in the midfield.

41:30But it's imbalanced. So every game is a bit of a lottery. And I think Brentford could beat us with that midfield next week. So I don't think we're back even if we win tonight. I think it's going to be that roller coaster until we find balance. Thank you, Rob. Don't care what Harry Maguire has to say. He shouldn't be here, says Mario. Morning, Mark. Hope we win today, says Will Padlock. Colin Bolger has gifted a membership as well. You're an absolute legend. United are going to destroy Chelsea. Hate watch for Gannaccio, says Rajaf.

42:31And if Bruno... I will just say about that, there has been times in the past where if Ganaccio did what he did and came back to Old Trafford, there'd be certain players that would, you know, let him know his error of his ways. I think the crowd will. I don't think there's a player on that pitch that will. I mean, I think Bruno and Ganaccio have already had interactions on social media, since he left. I mean, I sense that there is a father-son relationship between Bruno and Ganacho. And I think that there are a few players at United who, you know, have that feeling towards him. It's interesting, though.

43:09I read something today about Ganacho. I think it was in the... Actually, this is news, so I should have brought this in. So this was in the Daily Mail, Chris Wheeler and Nathan Salt saying that Ganacho raised eyebrows by inviting iShowSpeed to Man United's Wembley celebrations after the FA Cup. It was not the first time his teammates and staff rolled their eyes. One former United player said in our day, the dressing room would have sorted him out. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. But those days aren't here anymore. And I think, you know, we have to accept that that's just the way it's going to be.

43:44But, you know. What about the Wilcox stuff? Well, Terry did a very good job reacting to that last night. I will just touch on that. Lou says, if Bruno wasn't our captain, would he be part of the bomb squad? He's one of the biggest cheerleaders consistently and publicly. Isn't that poison? I spoke about that yesterday. I don't like the fact that Bruno is very on Instagram, backing players that have basically checked out of Man United. But I also don't think it's that deep. I just think all it does is portray the fact that the modern footballer doesn't read the room. And if I was the captain of Liverpool or Manchester United or Arsenal, I'd take the time because they get a lot of time.

44:30You know, they train for a couple of hours and the day's theirs. I'd take the time to test the water of the fan base I represent. And I wouldn't be posting individual stuff for my own benefit that goes against the way the temperature of the fan base is because I'm the captain. But that's the only thing I would say. It's not that deep. And actually, at least he's being honest. And some people don't like Amorim, but at least he's honest. And some people might not like Bruno liking Ganaccio or Sancho posts, etc. At least he's being honest. You know, I think in life, honesty is far better than, you know, being devious.

45:07If that's genuinely how he feels about Sancho and Ganaccio, at least he's honestly saying that, you know. So it's not that deep, really, but you don't have to agree with it. Mark, Uncle Casimiro will go for a leg breaker, says Liam. I hope he doesn't because he'll miss and get sent off. Let's be honest. If Casemiro goes for a leg breaker on Ganacho, he'll probably end up tackling a Brentford player. It'll be that late. I am sure the players are backing him. He's backing them by making sure they get paid for being inept to learn a new system. I doubt they'll ever learn it. Sorry, says Timmy Boy.

45:47Thank you very much. Shame the board chose shirt sales with a new front three rather than fix the leaky bucket at the back, says Declan. Luke Shaw is not part of the leadership group, according to the article, says Laurie. I thought he was. If I'm wrong on that, I'm wrong. Maguire should be captain again. Bruno Head has gone. I know Harry's tactics, though. Hang around long enough and keep a level head. Get my role back, says Nick P. Please scout the Bournemouth manager against Spurs tomorrow, says Football Carton. Carrington was out of date where they spend most of their time. Multiple managers and formations change.

46:17Doesn't help stabilise the club, says Mark Fudge. I always go to Ronaldo's interview when he came back and said that the environment was exactly the same when he was there, says Joseph Teagle. No, I think he means the facilities. He doesn't mean the environment. Competition for places at other clubs. We never had that. They always knew they were playing at their new clubs. They know they have to fight there. Daniel, thank you. Jay Jabo's just gifted 20 memberships, by the way. What an absolute legend. Thank you very much, Jabo. If you got one of those, make sure you say give him a thank you. Artic says, I would take Southgate if we can get a proper midfielder.

46:50He won't last long, but at least we'll end up in Europe so a proper manager can take over. I'm tempted to block you, Artic, but it's a democracy, so I won't do it. Rob says, I think you missed Lou's super chat. Says, Rob, let me have a look.

47:10Feeling a bit rough again today. You know, like a week ago, I said I was on the verge of something. And I feel like I am again today. There is no lose super chat in my list, mate. I've been through them all. Oh, here we go. If Bruno wasn't, I've done it. I don't need to be told I've missed super chats because I go through them. I just don't do them straight away. If you're a manager at Man United, what would you change as Maynou? Right now, because there's no transfer window, the midfield and the goalkeeper, I'd put Lemens in goal and I'd play Agathe and Maynou or Agathe and Casemiro today. and I played Bruno next to Embermo.

47:52Right, let me talk to you quickly about Wilcox. So interesting lines in the Wilcox interview. I've taken this from Nathan Salt, to be fair. He said, these are just some takeaway quotes from Jason Wilcox, our director of football. I wish he'd talk more. I mean, he's talking about the anniversary of the Man United Players Association. He should be talking more. He should be picking up the phone and saying, I'm doing an interview as director of football. He shouldn't be fucking doing interviews at an anniversary show. He should be bloody doing it as part of his job because some of the stuff he said is interesting.

48:24He said, it's been a roller coaster. I came in last April around 18 months ago and it's been a real challenge. I can't lie. I thought the club was in a much better place than it is. We had no football identity. We lacked alignment between ownership, the CEO, football and the academy. We've been working so hard behind the scenes. There's been a lot of work that's gone on to change the staff. The football club needed to go through a period of transformation. Forget the redundancies. The whole structure of Man United needed to change. Now we've got a platform to rebuild. I just pray we get the opportunity to turn things around.

48:55So basically what he's saying is the club was absolutely broken. True. What he's saying is we're putting things in place to build from here and I hope we get the time to build from it. I think that speaks volumes. He should be speaking more because it's honest and it's truth and this fan base craves honesty and can deal with the truth. So I don't know why he's so quiet, because what he said there actually makes me feel more confident in Wilcox, whereas before the interview, I'm sort of like, he's inexperienced, things are going wrong. Those sort of interviews are really powerful because he's telling the truth.

49:30I mean, what he's basically saying is, and they are still owners of the club, the Glazers are fucking useless. They've been here for 20 years. There was no structure. There was no identity. there was no alignment. That's on the Glazers. They're still here. And I think that's part of the problem sometimes. You know, when you get a new government, they spend the next two years blaming the last government for all the problems. This would be probably more easy, apart from the fact the Glazers are still here. So it's nice to get some honesty. But obviously, every time you're honest, you probably get Joel Glazer saying, why are you slagging me off?

50:02But it's the truth. So I do sometimes think, are Barada Wilcox and Sir Jim quiet because they can't tell the truth? But we need the truth. We can handle the truth, but they're probably getting censored by the real owners.

50:46I think what Wilcox is saying there is, if you trust him, is that we're putting things in place, but it's going to take time. And I hope we get the time. You do worry about why there wasn't a midfielder bought, why there wasn't a more experienced goalkeeper bought, why we weren't quicker in the window to bring certain players in, why we bought two number 10s and no midfielders. Those sort of things will always be scrutinised. but patience and time is going to be really, really hard, but it is required. And even I don't want to give it sometimes, but it has to be given. The question is, will it be given?

51:22And results will drive everything. Like Amram says, if you don't get results, you won't get time. As Harry Maguire says, if you don't get results, people will look for things to blame for results. If you're winning, no one ever talks about the formation or the system. If you lose, everyone talks about the formation or the system or the lack of transfers. Results will buy you time. And we should have focused on results, things that we're going to get as results. What's cost us results this season? Goalkeeper, midfield, didn't do anything about it. The forwards aren't getting us results. Spent£200 million on the forward line, it's not getting us results.

52:00What's costing us results in the midfield and the goalkeeper? If we had spent money on the goalkeeper and the midfielder, would we be getting results or would we be saying we're not scoring goals and that's the thing balance is the key it's always the balance thank you everybody for tuning in nice morning show with you all absolute legends I am watching the Merseyside Derby at quarter past 12 on That's Football so you can tune in for that obviously we're going to be live from about half three three o 'clock with countdown to kick off I'll be live with you at five o 'clock for the watch along match reaction player ratings all that jazz.

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