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0:42Visit rssc.com to experience the unrivaled. Tonight, Stans, I'm Art Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news. Apologies straight away, my voice isn't at it, I've got a sore throat, but I'm battling through it. I'm like Cunha, I'm match-spit and I'm ready to go. We've got lots to talk about this morning. We're going to talk about Kobi, Maynou swap deals involving Kamavinga, Balaba and even Valverde. Is there anything in any of that? Also, very interesting comment from Bruno Fernandes that may not please Maynou. We'll talk about that too. Also, Ruben Amarim under fire again. Even when you win, you're criticised.

1:19We'll talk about that too. I also want to talk a little bit about the centre-back situation. There's a lot of change at centre-back. What would be your top three centre-backs? Also, I mean, look, we should get time to talk about this. I mean, I know this particular journalist won't be working for the Manchester Evening News anymore, but looking at his final player ratings for the Chelsea game, OMG, basically gave De Ligt a seven and Ahmad a seven and Maguire a seven and Luke Shaw a seven. I mean, unpick that one. I'll leave that one for you. But look, I hope you're doing well this morning. Monday morning, I've got to say, these are the sort of mornings I like.

1:57You know, I would say this with total and utter conviction. The media want you to be Amram out. They want to wake up on a Monday morning, have their radio shows, have their TV shows, have their articles written about Man United must change a manager. I think football's changed massively over the last few years. you know it was only a week ago I was waking up on Monday morning to so-called journalists saying he's got to go you know he's got to go and I'm like it's not even journalism anymore it's they're not they're blatant about it they hate it when we win they absolutely hate it because this is how that you know Monday morning now no one gives a toss about a Man City Arsenal draw Liverpool have won five out of five you know Chelsea no one really cares about them losing and Man United have won.

2:46And they're panicking now because they're like, oh my God, what are we going to start the week off with? You know, we can't moan about Man United for clicks. And I'm like, you know, that sounds quite ironic when you talk about the United stand, the toxic stand or whatever. But the reality is, that's completely unfair. Like there may well be people in this community who want to talk about Amrim out. But as a sense and as a presenter, I always back the managers until very, very late. I actually love mornings like this. You know, we've got Saturday lunchtime against Brentford. but that'll be here before we know it.

3:15Huge game, beat Chelsea, positive, and our manager and our club isn't, you know, being piled onto. And I find it quite funny that, you know, they're sort of left with nothing to talk about because without doubt, they absolutely want to sack our manager. And the simple reason is, which said it many times before, the reason they want to sack our manager is because that gets them clicks. And then if there's a new manager, that gets them clicks. and then the new manager comes in, you get bored of them quickly, you get rid of them. They are part of the cycle of failure at this football club. And shame on those fans who fall for it, because we've been talking about it for a decade.

3:55The media wants to talk about Man United. The media want the interaction. You only get the interaction if you have a negative and a positive and a cycle. And the cycle is new manager buzz. Oh, look at him, look at him, look at him. Oh, he does bad. Get rid of him, get rid of him, get rid of him. And that's it. You know, we won on Saturday. But don't kid yourself that absolutely every person in power at these media outlets want us to lose again so they can pile in on us. 100 percent. Anyway, let's start off with Maynou, who, to be fair, under the Amrim regime, it ain't looking good, bruv, is it?

4:33It's not looking good for Maynou. I was quite encouraged with him coming on at the end of the Chelsea game for Bruno. but did you see this quote from Bruno actually um I just saw it this morning it was Amrim era who posted it on socials uh I think I'm more nervous on the bench I hope I'm not often on the bench that's Bruno Fernandes it's interesting is it because I hope he is on the bench more not in a not in a not in a drop him way I don't I don't I don't think look maybe you are I don't think I'm at the point where I'm sort of like saying drop Bruno but I'd definitely like to see him get subbed more.

5:05I think that would be a huge step forward. I was quite surprised he took him off with 10 minutes to go when it's 2-1 because he's the captain and you need a bit of leadership and Maguire had gone off as well. I thought that was a risk. I thought a lot of people didn't pick up on that risk. I said it on the watch along. We've got no Maguire and we're taking Bruno off and we're 2-1 up against Chelsea. Now credit to those players who got over the line, but I was a little bit concerned about that. I want to see that more though. I want to see that with half an hour to go. I want to see that, you know, from the start of a game.

5:36I want to see his bench Bruno more. Obviously, he doesn't want to see it happening more, but I think this is the natural progression for Manchester United. He definitely considered going to Saudi. A lot of people think he is going to go to Saudi. If this is to be his last season, then we need to phase him out. We can't be so reliant on a player that we have been so reliant on for such a long time. So, yeah, definitely I'm sort of looking at that and going, can we can we make a change um more more sooner with that but if we're not going to i still think the pathway to the first team for mainu is going to be really really difficult now there's a number of stories over the weekend about mainu um and effectively talking about um the uh sorry let me just send this can we

6:29sorry i was just getting uh somebody was just sending me something about me um so there's a number of stories this weekend that have come out about menu that i sort of wanted to wrap them up on a monday morning show um couple of spanish reports linking real madrid with menu and mentioning camavinga and valverde obviously we've got the labour story that we sort of talked about last night. And then in third place, you've got Newcastle and their interest in Maynou.

6:57It's, look, would I swap Maynou for Camavinga? Would I swap Balverde for Camavinga? You know, I don't think these are deals that we really seriously need to look at. Having said that, I do think Real Madrid do monitor the Premier League a lot more than people think. We've seen that with Trent and I think they would look at Maynou as an interesting profile of player. For them, they certainly need to bring midfielders in. But, I mean, I wouldn't describe my interest in swap deals for Valverde or Camavinga as peaked. I think that they are very, very difficult deals to do and probably, you know, fantasy.

7:37And you also have to be very careful about the fact that it's still only September, three weeks ago, since the transfer window closed and, you know, we had our opportunity in the summer. Where I do have concerns over Kravimeanu is the summer transfer window or the January transfer window to be specific. I just feel that if there are no minutes and there are no England call-ups, then I don't, I just don't, you know, I saw him on the touchline talking to Cole Palmer and Ganacho and it's like, it's very, very clear that he wants to play football. And then the problem is he can't play football. And that's the big thing.

8:19I mean, look, they can talk about swap deals with Kamavinga and I'm sure some of you would do it. Valverde, I think you're having a laugh. Newcastle, I'm sure probably would be interested in signing Manu. The big question is, is what's our strategy for our midfield? Even though we won at the weekend, it's still the most contentious area. You know, it's where the midfield caused us problems at the weekend. It was Casemiro got sent off and then you're down to 10 men. and the midfield is just going to be so important against Brentford, Sunderland, Liverpool and every other game. And I'd love to know what the strategy is, because if Manu is just an understudy to Bruno, he's not going to get the minutes he wants and he's going to keep saying he wants to go.

8:57And I think that with Manu, it's really difficult to predict it. You can only live day to day. And I think as of today, he would be very, very open to leaving Man United based on the minutes he's getting at Man United. now in a month's time we might revisit it and he's played a lot more football and he's been called up for England and the problem's gone but do you think that's going to change in a month we're only playing one game a week we were talking about this with Xerxes last night people talk like oh they'll get their chance they'll get their chance there is no Carabao Cup there is no European football there's one game a week and their cup finals and you know 90 minutes goes really quick when you're sat on the bench waiting for your opportunity and the next game doesn't come around very quick.

9:41So I think that you're almost looking at Maynou in a... Well, the way I look at it is I'm looking at Maynou in a month-by-month basis. If you take the start of the season in the middle of August and you look at September now, has Maynou's position worsened or got better? I'd say, optimistically, it stayed the same. Realistically, it's probably got worse because he was involved in the Grimsby game. He's not started any other games. and yeah, I wouldn't say he's closer to the first team. I wouldn't say he's further away from the first team, but it's not been a great start to the season. I'm now looking at the next month to the middle October and I'm going, okay, there's an international break again.

10:22There's Sunderland, there's Brentford and there is Liverpool. Is he going to start any of those games? I mean, he might start against Brentford and that could be the thing that kickstarts his season. So maybe that changes it. If he doesn't start against Brentford and then Casemiro is back for Sunderland and then is he going to start at Anfield? It could be another month and I think... This episode sponsored by She's Birdie. Every woman knows that feeling and She's Birdie knows it too. The just-in-case feeling. Just in case I hear something. Just in case someone tries the door. Just in case I need to wake up fast.

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11:53I think we've just got to accept that, you know, things can change very, very quickly, but it does look at the moment like his only chance of getting in the team is Arum taking a punt on him next to Bruno or something happening with Bruno. I just can't see him at the moment getting anywhere near that first team, which is what he wants. So I still think he will want to go. Somebody in the chat just said, would you swap Kamavinga for Manu? So I want to say no, because I don't want Mainou to go. I believe in Mainou. I think there's a really good player there.

12:34Could Kamavinga do the job next to Bruno better than Mainou? Probably. Probably he's more, because he's played left back, he's probably a better defensive player than Mainou. So he probably is better than Mainou next to Bruno. don't but i i don't i don't personally um i don't personally well i want to run a poll on this um would you swap i don't do that menu for camaline there you go i can see the look i can see the positives of it i'm not too sure real madrid would be open for it um but look that that there will 100 % be a lot of interest in Maynou if we decide we want to cash in. Early super chat coming in here, and it's coming in from Patrick Lynch, the voice of reason, says, my biggest concern with Maynou is that he has become the new Rashford for the media.

13:36It's an English player at United and it's unsettled. It's a distraction neither him or the team need. Well, it's a little bit like what we were talking about yesterday with Ahmad, isn't it? Ahmad's been spoken about in the media again this morning because of social media. and you know you sometimes you sometimes well I don't know whether you do but I sometimes sit there and I go we won the game yesterday and we're not talking about the win like I wake up yesterday morning and all I can see is Ahmad's come off social media and I'm sort of like this is part of the problem with Man United I'm not saying United or Amarim or Ahmad are responsible but this happens all the time you know the results which should be big because we don't win very often then gets clouded by amateurs come off social media and i think i think patrick's right i think there's a lot of stuff that goes off the pitch because everybody's always looking for an angle to destabilize because ultimately they want to destabilize because the media want to sack managers because man united if i'm sat there at the head of a certain newspaper and i'm looking at my figures i know that if this morning man united have lost i'm going to get a hell of a lot more people clicking my article if I'm saying Amrim's only got two games to save his job they're looking at Conte whereas if Man United beat Chelsea in a you know a game that nobody really can take anything away from because it was a you know carnage weather 10 against 10 that doesn't suit them they can't you know that doesn't suit them so I think that you know you're always going to get this um these angles and that's why I don't like stories about you know people on social media and stuff because it just gives a distraction again away from the fact that we won the game at the weekend do you think it's his agent pushing these stories is John United um I don't think it's um I don't think it's a stretch to say that there was a lot of activity from Maynews side in the final few days of the transfer window I certainly don't think it's a stretch to say that they were trying to get a move and I don't think it's a stretch to say that they won't be very happy with the current situation so i think that you know if you're not playing and you're not performing there are plenty of agents of players that we've had at manchester united over the years that still manage to get themselves into the press um you know and we can all think of names of players that haven't been performing maybe haven't been picked but still get into the press all the time um that's what a good agent does it doesn't really go hand in hand with what we want as fans but that's what a good agent does.

16:05They get their player out there, certainly. If Ahmad and Mainou act like Grodacho, then they need to leave. They all have one thing in common and a breakout season. They think they're world-class, Seth. Slazy says, this should be a one-season issue. Next season, Bruno and Casemiro will be gone. So Mainou will hopefully take Bruno's spot and will buy a new CDN. I agree with you, Slazy. I think that there is an opportunity here. If we manage it correctly, there is an opportunity here where everybody wins. Um, if Bruno is going to be gone in a year and Maynews is successor, then it's 12 months. What you need to do is manage that 12 months.

16:44Like, and what you need to do is see more of what we saw on Saturday. And I'm quite encouraged by that because I'm sort of like, why did he take Bruno off with 10 minutes to go? He's the captain. But then I think he's throwing Maynew into that situation. That's showing trust. Does Maynew see that as trust or does Maynew go? I only got 10 minutes. Hopefully Maynew sees that as trust. that Amirim is willing to take off Bruno Fernandes, who is his captain, to play Manu in the last 10 minutes of a game that we need to win. And hopefully we're going to see more of that. I remember Maud saying this before, that he thinks that Bruno will start to play less and less this season.

17:19If that happens, then Manu needs to trust the manager and trust the club that he is going to be given the pathway to that position, but he's got to respect it. You know, Bruno, whatever you think about Bruno, does give 100 % and has done for years. you can't just have his place because you want it you've got to earn it now obviously the flip side of that coin is Amarim's got to respect the player and give him the opportunity when you look at Saturday you could easily look at the explanation of that 10 minutes and go that's Amarim trusting him but what we need to see is more and if Bruno doesn't like being on the bench or tough shit you know we we need to see that more we need to see him being taken off for half an hour or not starting games ultimately this is going to come down to Amarim isn't it that's what won't happen um i'm still baffled the fact that we wanted to keep in and we wanted to go out on loan yet he still can't get in the team the mind boggles to be honest as the masked uh unboxer i think the midfield's a big problem at manchester united um and it's one that we're probably not going to solve i mean look the labor in january is being spoken about um again this morning um in light of what the brighton manager said on saturday that the player's head's not in the game you know he's not he's struggling and it's probably struggling because of the man united transfer that didn't happen i think that's a red flag but if we are going to go back into belabor in january then it's going to need to be cheap like people say oh go and get belabor in january but if brighton don't lower the price then we won't be able to do that um you know that will that that deal will need to be around 60 million um which at the moment you know you could argue that's what he's worked but he was definitely worked more than that um at the end of last season so look i think there are options in that midfield i watched stiller um on friday night for stuttgart on that's football um he's involved in everything he's got a lovely left foot he's a good tackler he can move with the ball he can pass the ball uh obviously he's playing in the bundlesliga it's not the premier league but he looks good we know about adam wharton um connor gallagher's been mentioned there are options in that midfield I don't know what the plan is but I think we need to buy two and um we need to get it right you know we we need to get it right because if we don't then um well we've seen the problems in the midfield this season and I think uh I look at the I look at the um

19:45the next few games. And I really do hope that we can, I don't want to use the word grind, but I sort of look at the games between now and Christmas. And I think, you know, we've played City, we've played Arsenal, we've played Chelsea, we play Liverpool in a couple of weeks. Once they're out of the way, the run to New Year doesn't involve the top four. If we can just be around fifth place on New Year's Eve, and actively go into the transfer market. What I'm trying to say is, and look, there's a lot of ifs, but if we are close to fifth place on New Year's Day, there is a real opportunity to go, let's go and get a midfielder and let's make sure we finish in the top five.

20:29The scary thing is we have seen that happen a lot over the years. I remember being top of the league under Oli and saying, I can't remember what position it was at the time, but we need to go and get a couple of players. We're top of the league. You know, you've got to dare to dream. We didn't do anything. You know, we didn't do enough in January last time. We don't normally do it in January. But, I mean, God, if we are, if we're anywhere near fifth place in January and we don't go and buy a midfielder and then we don't finish in the top six, I think you've got to look at the ownership again. So hopefully we've got a plan in January.

21:04But, I mean, January in transfers for Man United It doesn't necessarily go hand in hand. We'll have to wait and see with regards to that. But look, maybe we'll go for the Labour. I don't know. But in some ways, it's not long till January. In other ways, it is three months. And I don't think the Labour's going to continue down this path with Brighton for three months. Whatever that does to his value, I suppose, will be very, very interesting. I want to talk about the centre-back situation. I think it was Theo Walcott. I don't know what he does now. I was moaning about Amrim and his centre-back system and how he keeps changing the centre-backs at Manchester United.

21:45And I thought, you know what, Man United have just won again, but let's have a moment about Man United. As I said, welcome to the media. But I don't actually, I mean, again, I might be in the minority on this one, but I actually don't care about the centre-back situation. I actually think it might be another example of nitpicking, trying to just attack the manager no matter what. If it's not the formation, it's the system. If it's not the system, it's the back three. We win the game and I'm seeing pundits have a poppet in for his three centre-backs. Now, apparently he changes his three centre-backs a lot, But I actually think that it's arguably one of the best areas of the pitch for Manchester United.

22:33I mean, we've got a lot of players that you sort of trust, really. De Ligt's been brilliant this season. Jorreau's been very good up until the last game or so. Maguire's steady. Masraoui can do a job there. Luke Shaw's not been good, but he wouldn't say he's been bad. So I don't really get the whole... I mean, if I'm being honest, I sort of feel like there's always, I mean, as I said, it's the media, isn't it? There's always got to be something to go at Man United for. And I think we've just watched Pep Guardiola play a back 10 against Arsenal for 80 minutes. And United beat Chelsea and people are talking about Amrim changing his back three.

23:12I mean, Ranieri was the tinker man. He wouldn't have bloody title doing it. So I don't really have a problem with him changing the back three, because I think when you've got the players he's got, it sort of makes sense. Like, you know, Harry Maguire might not be a starter, really, but you do want to give him game time. And Joros, the future, the Lits has been very good. Luke Shaw's been steady. Masraoui can play there. I don't know. Martinez will be back soon. I don't know. I just feel like it's just another insignificant stick to beat Amron with. I don't really see it that it's caused us any problems either.

23:57I mean, I look at the goals we've conceded. It wasn't the centre-backs that cost us the Arsenal goal. It wasn't the centre-backs that cost us the Fulham goal. It wasn't really the centre-backs that cost us the Burnley goals. And when I look at the Man City game, okay, yeah, all right. I think Luke Shaw is responsible for the first one, as is Bruno. know second one i think luke shaw and delit could do a little bit better um third one we're all over the place but i don't see the defense as the problem it is my point it feels like you know um it's it seems to be the new thing to go after amrin for and i don't think if you actually my point is i think if you're watching man united every game like you are i don't see people going always change this center backs again i see man united fans going look at the goalkeeper look at the midfield that's what i see um would you swap maynew for kamavinga uh was the question well i love a 50 50 poll on that's football this is 50 50 would you swap maynew for kamavinga 50 of you saying yes 50 of you saying no so that's quite interesting i i did not expect us to be locked on that i suppose that sort of says two things doesn't it um people are locked on that one um i want to just go back to something i've said to you before though um if you want a positive about manchester united this morning um and there are positives i i just i i think i've said it to you before and i'm going to say it to you again i'm massively massively encouraged by uh embermo and gunya now i think we spoke yesterday about delit and Masraoui and their incredible inconsistencies but I'm absolutely um over the moon with Kunia and Mbremo um I know it was a bit of a slow start but I think now Mbremo is up to pace you can see why he had such a good season at Brentford and I think Kunia just has that um aura um and ability and common sense, IQ, whatever you want to call it.

26:06And if these two players can stay fit for us, I just think we might be sleeping on just how fortunate we are to have those players. Now, we spent a lot of money on them, over 120 million quid. But you know what? You sat there with, you know, Ganacho sat on the bench at the weekend, Amad's getting a load of shit, Rashford's at Barcelona, Anthony's at Betis. And I actually do look at it and I go, what an upgrade. Like, what an upgrade. And it's not just ability, but it's, you know, it's experience, it's mentality. I've seen enough of Mbermo and Kunya last season to know that they've got it because they're doing it for Brentford and Wolves week in, week out.

26:46That says a lot about a player. I don't think if you put, you know, Jadon Sancho or Ganacho or Rashford in a Wolves or Brentford team, they'd be able to do it week in, week out. I don't think they would. I think people don't really appreciate how hard it is to be a good player every single week for Wolves and Brentford. With all due respect, they are mid to bottom level teams and are going to be defending a lot. And to be good every week for those types of teams says a lot about the players. I think we've upgraded massively. And I think we're already starting to see what they can do in better teams.

27:23I genuinely think we're going to get to a point with Mberma and Konya where we're going to see us play shit and win games. And I'm here for that. I think they can be game changers. I think if we had one of them, they'd be a game changer, but I think two of them, they can be massive game changers. And this is why Bruno Fernandes plays in the midfield, because I think Amrim sees those two players as fundamentally really important. The only thing I don't want to see is I don't want to see him using a front three of Mount and a false nine. I am a bit concerned about that for the weekend. I want to see Seska as the striker.

28:02We spent£70 million on him. I do not want to see, you know, because Mount's had a good start to the season and it feels like he just looks Mount at the moment. I don't want to see a false nine from three. And I wouldn't be surprised if he did that because, you know, Amrim does not listen to any of the fans. He does what he wants to do. But I do think Kunja and Mbremo look very, very exciting. And it's interesting, isn't it? because Rashford got dropped yesterday because he was late for training. Then he came on and he got an assist. And I read somewhere that he's got three goals and three assists in his last three games or something like that, which is good.

28:39It's good. But the mic drop question is this. To all the United fans that want Rashford back, where's he playing? I wouldn't take Rashford over Cunha. I wouldn't take Rashford over Mbormo. And I wouldn't take Rashford over Sesko. And he's definitely not going to take Dorgu's role. So where does Rashford even get into the team? Not saying he's not a good player, but I think you always need to ask, where did they get into this team? Same thing with Ganacho. If he hadn't worn the Villa shirt, I still think he's a good player, but where does he get into this team? I'm not taking Ganacho over in Burma or Cunha.

29:15Definitely not going to play him up front. I think Rashford's the best of all of them, but wouldn't put him in the United side. would not put him in a United side over Kunja and Mbamo. And that's how high I rate them. It's got nothing to do with what I think about Rashford. I think Rashford, when he's on it, is a very, very good player. But that's how high I rate the upgrade that we've done with Kunja and Mbamo. I think they are looking better and better every week. And this is why I said game week 10, for me, is when this season starts. Because if you look at Mbamo on game week one, and you look at him now, the improvement is incredible match fitness match fitness and also they're going to get settled into the team as well so I think I think um I think people are probably sleeping on that a little bit because maybe it's been a bit subtle but I think we saw it at the weekend I thought Mberma was really good against Chelsea and Cunha and he played for a cameo and the intelligence on the ball and you know you saw him at the end when we won the game as well they get it already They want to win.

30:17And I think that was something that wasn't really spoken about enough because we're so fed up of not trusting players. But the players wanted to win on Sunday. Like I didn't mention it. I apologise for that. I didn't really see many people mention it. And I say I apologise for it. I don't really apologise for it because we've been let down so many times by these players and we know they can turn up against Chelsea and we know they can turn up against Arsenal. Will they turn up against Brentford? Will they turn up against Sunderland? But you could see, as scrappy as it was, you could see how much they wanted to win that game, how much they battled for that game.

30:54And to see Cunha booting the ball in the air at the end, I'm just hoping we can start to build something. Consistency is always going to be the key. Barcelona would never take Cunha over Rashford. Well, I don't really care, King Walker, because last time I checked, this is the United stand and it's about Manchester United. I wouldn't take Rashford over Cunha. you might you might you might you might you might not great i don't think i don't think barcelona would take kunya over rashford because i don't think the system needs kunya over rashford they need wingers they've got two wingers they don't have a position where they need kunya really so yeah um i'm very happy with what we've done my point is um Normally in these ads, you expect somebody to ask you to buy something.

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33:36But I think that, you know, everybody's an expert and everybody's got an opinion. I mean, look, I'll bring this in here. It's sort of perfect. Make sure you smash the like on the video if you're watching, by the way. 10 ,000 of you. Thank you very much. You're helping me out this morning because my throat's killing. So I'm trying to just work through comments and not talk too much, even though I have to talk. So he's losing his job anyway. There's a journalist at the Manchester Evening News. Apparently he's going somewhere else. I try not to mention the name and I try not to talk about him because he's just very irritating.

34:10But it's a good step forward for the Manchester Evening News because there are some other good journalists there. But he's always done the player ratings. and I think many of you have always criticized those player ratings because the agenda comes through very obvious and the favoritism comes through very obviously. He's never been a big fan of De Ligt. And this is the problem because I think that the reason our player ratings work so well is that if you've got like 10, 20, 30 ,000 people doing player ratings and it's averaged, it's really difficult for an agenda to come through because there might be somebody that doesn't like De Ligt and gives him a two every week.

34:49But then there'll be a load of people who give an honest opinion and it dilutes the agenda. The trouble with the Manchester Evening News play ratings is it's just one journalist and their agenda. So it's been awful for weeks, but I looked at this and I thought, you know what, I am going to mention it. So the Chelsea game, De Ligt gets a seven out of 10, but then Maguire, Ahmad and Shaw get a seven out of 10. and I sort of like go how do you how do you watch a game and see that how does anybody and this is the great thing about football everybody's welcome but it seriously does make me question like like how does somebody watch a game of football and go the lit was a seven but so was Ahmad the lit was a seven but so was Shaw Dalit was a seven but so was Maguire and I'm like the worst one is Ahmad is nowhere near Dalit on Saturday by his own admission I think he put his hand up and say you know I was nowhere near Dalit but that is incredible to me and that's why when we talk about Dorgou I think agendas can be set and it upset me when Dorgou came into the club a very exciting player and within two or three games, people were saying, Dorgou's dog shit.

36:14And you're sort of like going, you know, it's a player for the future. There's no doubt in my mind that Dorgou is a future signing. Much the same as probably Le Mans is. But the difference with Le Mans is that he's not in the team at the moment. I mean, I look at Dorgou, he's 20. He's 20 years of age. He's 20 years of age and he's playing at Manchester United as our first choice left wing back whatever you want to call it but at least ever I think at 20 years of age wasn't even at Monaco yet let alone Man United so I think like there has to be that level-headedness and you know patience but we always talk about this that just that just never is that patience which is just so so important um somebody just said what would your starting three centre-backs be well i'll throw that back to you i was meant to talk about that but i digress talking about dorgoo um my starting three centre-backs when everybody's fit is obviously going to be martinez delit and yarrow i think at the moment it probably should be sure delit and yarrow um because i do agree with amrin wanting a left-footed player on the left side of a three i don't think you can have three right-footed centre-backs i think that's a bit silly i mean i've seen england do it mcguire's played there but i think if you're going to play three center backs what the left side of one has to be left footed now that means it's got to be heaven or shaw and i probably would agree with shaw at the moment um although he hasn't been that good maybe maybe heaven should have been given an opportunity so at the moment i'd say shaw delit and yaro if martinez gets fit martinez delit and yaro would be my um would be my three look I think Harry Maguire is a very useful player to have around and I think he can do a job I wouldn't have him as a starter much for the same reason I probably wouldn't have Casemiro as a starter anymore either I think

38:21bench players are good bench players are good we saw it yesterday with Arsenal I think Arsenal have struggled for years with what Martinelli is I think what we're seeing with Bartellelli at Arsenal is what we've seen at Manchester United for a long time as well. You know, whether it be Oli Gunnar Solskjaer or Wes Brown or Johnny Evans or, you know, whatever, the players that are bench players can be massively important. Kamavinga, Defo has bad underlying injuries, says Random Guy. Well, yeah, that would be a reason to avoid it, I think. Uh, simply red says Rashford easily has a spot on this team.

39:05Also Casemiro has 17 goals since John United impressive for a CDN. But mate, I mean, look, you, you know, fair play. You put a comment out there, but I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I completely disagree with you. I don't see Rashford having a spot in this team easily at all. That's why he's not here. He had a chance. He blew it. This is Amrim's team. He doesn't have a team. He doesn't have a place in Amrim's team because Amrim fucked him off. So you, in your simply red team, probably plays a 4-3-3 and puts Rashford on the left. Well done. You need a left winger. Of course he's going to start.

39:41But in this system, in this manager, he doesn't easily start because that's why he's in Barcelona. He doesn't get anywhere near the team. So a different manager might use Rashford, but he doesn't get into this team because you're not the manager. Amrim is, and Amrim didn't want him. And to be honest with you, I agree with that. he's definitely not a number 10 and he's definitely not a striker and he's definitely not a wing back and neither is ganacho and neither is anthony and neither is sancho and that's why none of them are here um kunya and embermo are streets ahead of rashford when it comes to premier league form over the last year and suitability to this system it doesn't mean rashford's not better than embermo doesn't mean that rashford on his day is not better than kunya but he don't get into this team what do you who do you want as that midfield too in the future as Joseph.

40:31I mean, I have a dream. I have a dream of Maynou and Wharton or Maynou and Baleba or Maynou and Stiller. I have a dream. The interesting thing about Stiller is he'd have to play left-sided in the field, by the way. He's definitely a left-sided midfielder and that's where Bruno and Maynou apparently play. So I don't know that... I don't think we'll sign Stiller. I don't think we'll sign Stiller. But I tell you what, I've only watched him play 90 minutes once and I'm looking forward to watching him again because I think he looks very very good and when we were linked to him in the summer I didn't really know you know I was excited in the sense that a lot of players have been brought from the Bundesliga this summer into the Premier League but I'd be honest I didn't really know a lot about him but watching him on on Friday night I think you know you can see the quite I mean he missed the penalty he missed a one-on-one but he's i think he's i still think he was he looked very very good um barca wouldn't take kunya over rashford yeah we know that robert we've spoken about it um tom grant says morning all i think we can all agree lemans deserves a chance now regarding embermo i agree completely he's class and he makes me shiver kunya is class too and his class will show in times as tom grant i think these next two games are exactly the games that we bought kunya and embermo for Brentford, Sunderland these are the games where those quality players needed to win these games if I look at Wolves and I look at Brentford last season, I'd expect Tanya against Sunderland and Brentford to get a couple of goals obviously Envermo was at Brentford but you know what I mean, I'd expect him to be getting a couple of goals these are the sort of games last year where they were getting goals and assists we've got to win these next two we have to win these next two I think even if we wouldn't win one and draw one, I'd still be disappointed because it's sort of like, oh, you know, you're opening the door again.

42:21We've got to, we've shut the door with a win. We've shut the door on all the noise. Keep the fucking door shut. Our next two games, no Carabao Cup, no European football. Brentford, Sunderland, keep the door shut. Don't let it open a little bit. A draw will open it a bit. A door will, a loss will open it a lot. Shut the fucking door on it. Get to the international break. If I'm Reba Damrim and I'm those players, I'm going, this is the first week since the start of the season that no one's going to be saying Amory Mout. They can't do it. There will be people saying Amory Mout in the fan base, but there's not, no journalist can do it.

42:57No news outlet can do it. They look idiots. You can't do it. I'd be saying to the players, if I'm Amory, I'm like, look, we're going to have a whole week where no one's going to be trying to disrupt us. If we beat Brentford, we'll have two weeks of it. If we beat Sunderland, we'll have four weeks of it because it's an international break. We could have a month where nobody's talking about sacking or selling or anything like that what an incentive what an incentive it's a real opportunity for United it really is um going back to the goalkeeper um I'm look my my honest opinion on the goalkeeper is that the more Biender starts the harder it becomes for Le Mans I don't know where Le Mans comes in um I still think that come Saturday morning there'll be people hoping that he's going to start because Man City and Chelsea were difficult games to throw him into.

43:50I think if he doesn't start against Brentford, people will be going, well, it's Sunderland at home. Personally, I think the Inders got the spot at the moment and I don't think it's going to change. I wish it would change, but I don't think it is. I think we've put ourselves into the Casemiro effect, haven't we, where we bought Casemiro and Tenard kept picking McTominay until made a mistake um i don't like that because you almost got it you've got to endure a bad result for the change to happen and i don't want a bad result but i sort of feel at the moment that uh lemans won't get his place in the team until bayinda makes a mistake and that mistake could cost us a game i mean it might be a mistake in a game that we win but do you think we'll buy a left footed centre back says Ross McRae magician um you got Luke Shaw Aidan Heaven and Martinez you don't need one but two of those are injury prone Aidan Heaven's 19 today by the way happy birthday um technically we don't need a left footed centre back if those all work out but two of them are injury prone and one of them's a kid so keep keep your eye on that um Chicken Puri says only six games so far and sesco hasn't had much service manager wants to ease him in but fans are already losing patience is this rasmus again says chicken curry you know what again it's monday morning let's say how it is i've said we've got i've always said this season without european football every game's a cup final and we've got to scrutinize everything we can't be complacent and just go everything's okay because it's not i think in relation to sesco there needs to be a big question because there's two big issues with sesco in my mind one he hasn't scored a goal yet two i'm not convinced he's a starter so three why did we spend nearly 70 million pounds on him um why has he not scored a goal yet because the service hasn't been great again two why do i think he's not a starter because I think Mount Cunha and Mberma were starters and you can't start them without dropping Sesco so I think Sesco is a conversation I think Sesco is a debate um I hope I'm wrong and I hope I'm I hope it was just match fitness because he has started the last two games but I'm not convinced and Robert McCormack will back me up on this I'm not convinced he would have started the Manchester Derby if Manu and Cunha were fit uh Mount and Cunha were fit and the same against Chelsea.

46:25So my concern with Sesco is that he might take a step back. He might not even start against Brentford, which for me is crazy when you think about if there's one player that changed the game against Chelsea, it was Sesco's flick-on. I mean, that red card, that victory, doesn't happen without that flick-on. Mason Mount can't flick it on, Tanya can't flick it on, and Embermo can't flick it on. So in one way, in one moment, we saw the value of a 70 million pound six foot four striker but i don't know because i don't know enough about this signing whether he actually is a starter at the moment um and if he's not a starter then he will be under increasing pressure because he won't be starting um black wolf says jesus mark are you i just tuned in are you sick or something i just got like i woke up at about four o 'clock this morning my throat was like razor blades and it was freezing cold and if anyone's been watching the last sort of week i've been on and off thinking it was allergies or something but i don't know i think i think i'm just run down but um i'm meant to be doing career mode later as well i don't i want to do it but you've got to be doing it i've got to be careful with my throat um with my voice but um no i'm fine i'm fine yesterday you said it was a concern changing center back says rogan And yeah, I did, but I'm not so sure it is.

47:54I'm not so sure it is. And, you know, you're allowed to change your opinion.

48:01And I'm not so sure it is. I really am. I think if you're changing your centre-backs every week, then, you know, obviously it's going to lead to instability. And that's probably where I was coming from. but having had more time to think about it and seen it mentioned more I'm sort of like is it not our responsibility as fans to just not jump on these bandwagons and I see a lot of people in the press talking about his centre-backs and I'm sort of like it feels like the formation again and you know I'm not on that bandwagon so I'm not getting on this one really are we changing our centre-backs a lot I mean for me when I think about our three centre-backs this season are predominantly i envisage sure delit and europe now obviously there's been a bit of change there because people are talking about it but i don't i don't think it's a big issue uh marlow says a research paper about what makes a club successful states that 75 percent of the owners and the leadership structure the manager only accounts for five percent and we will never get back to the top without the owners that creates the right environment i mean i don't know the validity of that paper, Marlowe, but it needs sharing amongst this fan base because they really don't get it.

49:13And, you know, I've said this before, there's no way that Liverpool would be successful now if they hadn't changed their owners. There's no way that Man City would be successful now if they hadn't changed their owners. There's no way that Newcastle would be in the Champions League if they hadn't changed their owners. and there's no way that Chelsea would be where they are if they hadn't changed their owners so I'd say that that piece is probably about right you know 75 % of success comes from who owns your football club and yet we keep changing the manager. One Inch Wonder says I'm moving to Saudi today not getting Bruno level wages but excited grateful the United States community and how it will keep me connected to home well enjoy it mate everyone's everyone's going to assume you're loaded now if you're off to Saudi because um that's just stereotypical how it works but uh just remember whether you're in Saudi America uh that's not one country by the way there's a comma there Saudi America India Australia Europe South America wherever you are United stand communities with you morning mark I feel mainly you could throw away a career at Man United just because he wants go to the World Cup.

50:22He could regret it afterwards, says JT. Well, you're talking to the converted there because I just don't understand why people prioritise international football over club football. Why not go for Valverde? His class ability. I just don't think Real Madrid would let Valverde go. Great player. I don't think he would let him go. Why would Manu have confidence he's going to be Bruno's replacements? He'd probably buy one as well, says Robert McCormack. We should be doing everything to get Cobby into the team and keep him on our books. I haven't seen a local youth team player look the part since gigs, says Sam.

50:54And I agree with your points, Mark, but as Amrim has said before, if he doesn't want to be here, let him go. We don't need players who don't want to be here, says Evan. Ami says with no midweek games, a positive result against Chelsea means there will be less toxicity over the week. It's crucial we build on this result. Well, I don't know about anybody else, but I just massively can't wait for Brentford on Saturday lunchtime. And then Sunderland. I just want us to go and win the next two games. And, you know, I actually quite like it when, even on this channel, it's the hardcore. We can have proper conversations without, oh, when's Amarim going to get the sack?

51:33I actually quite like that. You know, I mean, obviously, you know, sometimes when you sign a player and you've got, you know, 70 ,000 live viewers, it's great. but I actually do like the 10 to 12 ,000 hardcore where we're having proper conversations like we've had this morning. Because I don't think it does anybody any good, constantly being in a state of turmoil and a little bit of stability this week will be good. Nothing wrong with a break for a day or so, Marks, as Tom, I seriously did consider it. I did consider it today, Tom, but I had to get up and do Robbie. I sound wrong. I had to get up and do Robbie's show this morning.

52:11So I was like, if I'm doing that at seven o 'clock, I'm not going to bin off at 10 o 'clock. Ashish says, if Manu was at City, Arsenal or Liverpool player coming through the media would not be getting into the player's head about how he needs to be starting. Our bad results make us target, as you said, itself. I think you make a brilliant, brilliant point because you know what? I'm not saying that Curtis Jones is better than Manu. But does this not expose the problems at Manchester United? Curtis Jones at Liverpool doesn't start many games. Occasionally he starts, occasionally he comes off the bench, but he doesn't start every week.

52:51He gets in the England squad. I've never heard Curtis Jones going, if I don't start games this year, I might not go to the World Cup and therefore I want to leave Liverpool. And I think it goes back to what Marle was saying. stability, ownership, structure, vision, players. Is everybody in together or are people doing their own thing? Now, if I'm Manu, I'm looking at that midfield and I'm going, I'm better than Bruno in the midfield. I'm better than Casemiro in the midfield. And I'm better than Agate in the midfield. And I want to go to the World Cup, but I want to play for Man United. And I'm better than them.

53:29And I will play for Man United. And I will go to the World Cup because I want to be part of this vision. and for some reason we've got I want to go on loan and that to me suggests that there's something more going on here because as I said Curtis Jones at Liverpool there will be other examples as well they're on the verge of the England squad for the World Cup they're not necessarily starting for their club but they're not going if you don't start me slots I want to go on loan is that respect is that selfish I don't know what the explanation is but it always seems to be an I'd's problem as I said you know you look at Ahmad we win a game he's on social media then he's off social media I didn't I didn't notice Liverpool win the Merseyside derby and um I don't know Connor Bradley going on social media and then coming off social media you know it's like there's something about our football club I'm not I'm not I'm not taking a pop in any sense of the situation I think he's a very important player for us but the external noise shouldn't be heard and it always is with Man United and that goes back to what Marlowe's saying is that how we run this football club isn't proper and I'd love to have that chat with somebody like Wilcox or Barada or Sir Jim and say look you're in charge but the fans are the most important thing and our perception of your ownership is that it's weak and that any time we win a game it gets overshadowed by something that shouldn't be noise but is noise why do these players have the power to change a conversation to them when we should be talking about winning a game of football you know um rico lewis at cities and other ones is healthy bridge yeah but you know what it is i don't think it enters the mind of those players that they want to you know if i'm being completely blunt If Curtis Jones said, if I'm not starting for Liverpool, I want to go out on loan, he'd be on loan at Southampton and his Liverpool career would be over.

55:33And he doesn't want his Liverpool career to be over. So that's why Curtis Jones ain't doing it, because he wants to play for Liverpool and he doesn't want to wreck his career. It's the respect for Liverpool. And for some reason, we've lost that. And I understand it. I'm not saying that Maynard doesn't respect Man United. What I'm saying is he might not respect the vision of the club, in relation to what he wants to do personally. And everyone's free to do that. All I'm saying is, why does it keep happening at Man United? And I think that goes back to the top. Yeah, you know, absolutely. And I just want to reiterate there, I'm not blaming Maynou for it.

56:11What I'm saying is the environment at Manchester United creates it all the time, all the time. We need to bin off bad attitudes, Ahmad Maynou. You cannot let the players win the club. But I don't think, Trey, that they've got bad attitudes. What I'm saying is at Man United, it just seems to happen time and time again. And I think it's a result of the... I think if Manu was at Liverpool, he wouldn't do it. That's my best experience. If Manu was at Liverpool, I don't think he would be saying to Slott, I'm not playing enough. I want to go to the World Cup, so I'm going on loan. It wouldn't happen.

56:42I don't think it would happen at Man City. So can you blame Manu? No, I think it's a result of the way the club is run. because I don't think he'd be doing this at Liverpool because the structure's there, the vision's there. You want to be part of it. You're playing in the Champions League. You know, there's games, games, games. I think it's a structural thing. I do. Can't like player better than manager if want best for Man United's Arta. Ricciardo says, not to take the conversation backwards, but if you look back at the takes, it was Bruno who signalled to Amrim first to sub him off. That's even more worrying that it was Amrim's decision.

57:17It wasn't Amrim's decision. I haven't seen that, Ricardo, and I think that's a great find. And I'll certainly go looking for that at 8 o 'clock because I think that is a huge exclusive, if it's true. Anyway, thanks everyone for watching. I'm going to go and get myself hot water. We made it through. Thank you, everybody, who was live with me. Get your comments in if you weren't. We're back at 2 o 'clock, and I'm back at 8 o 'clock. I'm hoping to do career mode at about 5 o 'clock, but we will see how it goes. and thanks everyone for tuning in. Great show again this morning. Nice to start the week on a positive.

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