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8 Oct 2025 · 52m · 21 chapters

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204: Bruno 100 MILLION Exit Plan! Amorim's RONALDO Reunion PLAN!

In short

Manchester United transfer and squad talk. Main focus is a reported £100m Bruno Fernandes Saudi exit, plus whether United should play midweek friendlies in Saudi (possibly vs Ronaldo’s Al Nassr) to raise money while not in Europe. Secondary topics: Kobbie Mainoo’s England/World Cup narrative, Harry Maguire’s likely departure and wage issue, Andre Onana’s Turkish loan/transfer situation, and Ruben Amorim’s 3-4-3 system debate.

Guest backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s hosted by Mark Goldbridge with audience comments and references to journalists/sources (e.g., David Ornstein, Ben Jacobs, Fabrizio Romano, Laurie Whitwell, Mail article).

Key claims

Bruno will leave this summer for Saudi; the “secret talks” account story is likely recycled/guesswork. United could earn ~£10m via Saudi mid-season friendlies and use minutes for fringe players. Mainoo isn’t prioritizing England over United; he wants World Cup football. Amorim should stick to his system; changing formation is blamed unfairly.

Notable examples

Al Nassr as the likely Saudi opponent; Maguire’s “Lyon” goal; Onana at Trabzonspor; Amorim’s 3-4-3 vs calls for 4-3-3.

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Chapters

0:00

Bruno Fernandes' Potential £100 Million Exit

Discussion around the claims of Bruno Fernandes being sold for £100 million.

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2:05

Bruno Fernandes' Potential £100 Million Exit

Discussion around the claims of Bruno Fernandes being sold for £100 million.

“But we're going to start off with Bruno Fernandes,£100 million exit from Manchester United.”
4:30

Analyzing Transfer Credibility and Speculations

A critical examination of the credibility of sources discussing transfers.

“And as many aggregators have said, you know, they're now promoting on a daily basis, a subscriber section where you have to pay to get news from them.”
8:06

Kobi Maynou's Situation and Future Prospects

Insights into Kobi Maynou's situation and his aspirations.

“I want to get that into the show this morning as well, because he's basically saying that Ruben Amrim should have changed his formation and then the witch hunt wouldn't be happening.”
12:36

Ronaldo's Reunion and Financial Strategies

Discussion about the potential for Ronaldo's return and Manchester United's financial needs.

“Right, let me talk to you about the Ronaldo stuff.”
14:00

Manchester United's Financial Struggles and Strategic Choices

Discussing the financial situation of Manchester United and the implications for player management and match scheduling.

“Now, I'm not going to change my opinion on this.”
17:59

Player Contracts and Wage Structure

Exploring the implications of player contracts, wages, and performance at Manchester United.

“If we play a game against Al Nazeera on a Wednesday night and then we've got Brentford at home on the weekend and we lose, the media are going to kill us.”
22:04

Harry Maguire's Future at Manchester United

Analyzing Harry Maguire’s position within the team and his potential departure.

“If you will only get one midfielder, who would you get realistically?”
28:00

Evaluating Centre-Back Options

Discussion on the future of centre-backs at Manchester United, particularly Harry Maguire's situation.

“I don't think he starts ahead of Martinez, Shaw, De Ligt, Masraoui, Yaro.”
29:14

On Inanna's Performance

Thoughts on Inanna's time at Trabzonspor and the implications for Manchester United.

“And I think that's what will probably happen there.”
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30:46

Saudi League Concerns

The potential move of Manchester United players to the Saudi league and its impact on traditional football.

“with someone that you're, you've met, that you're really happy and you see them at the bar and they're really happy and it's not awkward.”
31:24

Assessing Bruno Fernandes

Debate on whether Bruno Fernandes should be retained or let go as Manchester United transitions.

“We wouldn't be going to Saudi if we were in the Europa League.”
33:18

Gary Neville and Cancel Culture

Comments on the backlash from Gary Neville's statements and the impact of cancel culture in football commentary.

“I don't think we've got the time or the need to phase players out.”
34:11

Rennie Mullenstein's Critique

A critical look at Rennie Mullenstein's comments regarding Ruben Amorim's coaching approach.

36:01

Formation Debate in Football

Discussion on the importance of sticking to a formation versus adapting to player capabilities in football.

“What people are forgetting, says Martin Saunders, is we're broke and if successful, we can do some other things against other big teams, not in Europe competition.”
42:06

Formation Changes and Managerial Accountability

Discussing the need for accountability in managerial decisions and formation changes.

“sort of like where i'm at with it um i think that this constant talk of changing system or formation is so bloody boring.”
43:30

The Case for and Against Amrim

Debating the effectiveness of manager Ruben Amrim and alternative options.

“Stop talking about a formational change for Ruben Amrim.”
45:03

Eddie Howe and Unrealistic Expectations

Exploring Eddie Howe's adaptability and its relevance to Manchester United.

47:21

Fan Actions and Glazer Accountability

Discussing fan actions and their impact on Glazer ownership of Manchester United.

“Because I don't know what the Rashford news is.”
53:17

Reflections on Sir Alex Ferguson's Succession

Reflecting on the challenges of finding Sir Alex Ferguson's successor.

“Form says, curious, who did you want to replace Sir Alex?”
56:00

Closing Remarks

The host gives a brief farewell and hints at future communications.

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1:01Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news. As Manchester United face an exit of Bruno Fernandes for£100 million. We'll be talking about this amazing story this morning. I mean, you can sense the trepidation and sarcasm, I think, in my voice straight away. But we'll talk about that. Also, a Ronaldo reunion is getting closer. What's that all about? could be some good money coming into Manchester United for this as well. Reports from Turkey saying that they really want to take an honour. I think that's positive news as well.

1:37We've also got a few bits around Harry Maguire, Kobi Meynou and a few other bits as well. Just on that, I just must just say, United Stand is the place to be for all the latest Manchester United news. And if you don't agree with that, we were speaking about Meynou and Xerxi leaving Man United yesterday morning. Most people are talking about it this morning. So the United stand is the place to get the news first. Get involved, make sure you smash and like and subscribe and get your comments in as always. But we're going to start off with Bruno Fernandes,£100 million exit from Manchester United.

2:11Now, I have to try not to laugh here because I'm sure many of you will have seen this amazing super duper breaking story that came out last night. Look, say what you like about Indy Kalia or Indy Kayla. But David Ornstein shouted them out in the summer. And I think since then, it's given credibility to an account that never had any. So what they're saying last night is that Bruno Fernandes sale agreed. Carlos Balaba and Elliot Anderson incoming. We've been told high level secret Manchester United.

2:46They Why are we doing this? Anyway, we've been told high-level circuit Manchester United transfer plans. I mean, they don't even spell check it. We understand that Bruno Fernandes will be sold to Saudi Arabia for 100 million in the summer. The deal is already agreed between all parties, according to sources. And it seems like Bruno Fernandes is just waiting to sort out personal terms. The fund from Bruno's transfer will expect it to be used to bring in Belaver and Elliot Anderson. Why are we talking about this? They can't even spell bloody secret. I can't believe that you put out a tweet. And they were building this all up all night.

3:2010 o 'clock tonight, massive Man United news. We've been told high level circuit. They meant to put secret Man United transfer plans about Bruno Fernandes. Why am I mentioning this? Because I just want to draw a line in the sand here and say this could happen. Like the whole point of this account is that they take stories that are already out there and pass them off as their own. this could happen. Ben Jacobs mentioned it about three months ago. Fabrizio Romano has mentioned it numerous times. We had a theory about it in June that this was being put back a year. So the reason I mention it is because I think it probably will happen, but it's not happening because old Indy has been told that, you know, circuit transfer plans for Manchester United, It's guesswork.

4:13So look, I don't know what's behind that account. I don't know why it suddenly got credible. I don't know why David Ornstein said that. But ultimately, there's a lot of stuff that comes from that account over the years that's not true. And there's no way that's true. If you can't spell secret, then it's not true. And as many aggregators have said, you know, they're now promoting on a daily basis, a subscriber section where you have to pay to get news from them. I think that's always a red flag I don't like that sort of model anyway I know a lot of outlets do it The Athletic do it They've got every right to do that If they want to do it I don't like it And I don't think you should be paying for transfer news So I don't believe that story But the reason I mention it Is the story was already out there I do think this is going to happen I just don't think they've broken it last night I think this was already a story that we knew about.

5:11Just picking holes in it. Anderson and Belaba both could come in next summer. Neither could come in. One could come in. £100 million we won't get. It wasn't even£100 million in June, so we won't get£100 million in a year's time. The Saudis aren't stupid. It amazes me how many people still think the Saudis are stupid. They're not stupid. They have paid good money, but they pay good money for players that they think are going to bring value to their league. They're not just going to write a check for£100 million. If there is£100 million going, there'll be a big portion of that going to Bruno Fernandes.

5:45We might not even get 80 anymore. I think it was 90 in the summer. We might not even get 80 anymore. So look, I think Bruno Fernandes is going to leave Manchester United in the summer and go to Saudi. I think Man United should have accepted it last summer. And I think that he was very close to doing the deal. And I think that something has been agreed that he can go in a year. and it's a World Cup year and he's happy to stay at Man United and he'll keep putting the work in. But I don't think that that's a story that broke last night. I don't think their circuit talks, secret talks, sorry, I'll spell it right, have taken place.

6:21And look, honestly, I'm not here to bash other people. You know, do I think that, do I use that account as somebody that I think is credible? No. To some of you, yes, good luck. What I'm saying is that is not an exclusive. That is a bit of guesswork. That is based on what many people have been talking about for a few months. And yes, I do think Bruno Fernandes is going to go in this summer. And yes, I do think he will go to Saudi. But I could write that as an exclusive because they've been trying to sign him for the last two summer transfer windows. They desperately want him. He is now thinking about it.

6:58It's a logical bit of guesswork to go. He's probably going to go next year. I even think he'll go before June the 30th to go into this financial year. I actually think some of our signings, Sesco, Embermo, Cunha, etc., have been bought on the knowledge that Bruno's going before the next financial year ends in June next year. That's just my theory, because I think with the World Cup starting in the middle of June, why would you wait to do a Bruno deal? You know, probably at the end of July, maybe August, because Portugal will do well in the World Cup. So I think this will happen before that. So I don't think it's nonsense.

7:34I just think somebody trying to claim it as an exclusive is talking nonsense because I think many of us think this is going to happen. And I think we did the show on Monday night about Bruno. I think Bruno will go. So that's where I am on that one. Kunya was in the last financial year as well, so Simon Brown as well. Yeah. So give me your thoughts on that one. But yeah, I think it will happen. I really do. Just on Maynou, by the way, I just wanted to say this about Maynou. I've seen a couple of things. Rennie Mullinstein as well has been talking about Ruben Amrim. I want to get that into the show this morning as well, because he's basically saying that Ruben Amrim should have changed his formation and then the witch hunt wouldn't be happening.

8:14We're back on that. So if we get time, I want to talk about that. But just on Maynou, obviously, I mentioned this on Sunday that this was going to break this week and lo and behold it has. I'm not looking for credit for the United Stand. I mean and any credit is for you. It's the community that we've built over the years. We put it out there and most of the time it gets proven right. I said on Sunday it was going to hit about May New this week. Here we are on Wednesday. It's already hit. Some people are claiming it as their own exclusive yesterday. I don't care. If you're part of this community and you're watching this community, you'll know where it started.

8:46If you're not, let them have the exclusive. I don't care. We said on Sunday that stories were going to come out about May New early this week And they came out And if some people want to claim it as their exclusive That's absolutely fine I don't care We said it on Sunday We said it yesterday morning We also said about Xerxes yesterday morning And it came out yesterday afternoon So look, exclusives, bollocks I don't really care We're here to discuss If we get a bit of information before anybody else That's great If we don't get the information first And David Ornstein does Or Ben Jacobs or Laurie Whitwell We'll still discuss it anyway It doesn't bother me.

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9:51I think that Bruno Fernandes will leave in the summer. But on Maynou, I think there's a little bit of misrepresentation about Maynou around this England thing. Because I've seen a few people going in on Maynou going, Man United's his boyhood club and he's prioritising England over Manchester United. I don't think that's the case. I've said this before about Maynou I think at the end of August Even I was a little bit annoyed by it Because I was like This is your boyhood club Why do you want to leave Manchester United Etc etc I think that actually That sort of surprised us At the end of the transfer window That Kobe was wanting to go He knows the picture more than we do We're looking at it like that He's seen the full picture I think now in the October international break I look at it and I go, I don't actually think this is about England.

10:46I think putting it out about England in August was just a reason to try and appease the fans and make it more explicable. I think now, I don't think he's prioritising England. I think he wants to play for England in the World Cup because he played for England in the Euros. So I think, yeah, he wants to play for England. But ultimately, I don't think he wants to leave Man United to play for England. I think he wants to leave Manchester United to play football. and by playing football, he thinks he'll get back in the England squad, but I don't think it's about the England squad. So I think when people are getting on Maynou's back and saying, oh, Maynou this, Maynou that, he wants to leave his boyhood club to play for England, he can go.

11:24I think he wants to play football and if he goes to Brighton or Aston Villa or Napoli and he plays football, he's got a better chance of playing for England, but ultimately you've got to play football first. It's not like Man United are saying, play for Man United, but you can't play for England. Then he's going, oh, I don't want to play for you then. and want to play for someone else. He's not getting game time anyway. So I think that this story needs to change around Mainu and the England thing because he's not playing anyway. England is beyond him. I don't think he can even do that anymore.

11:55I don't think he can get in the World Cup squad anymore because Adam Wharton is not even in the Tuchel team. He's not in the squad. So Mainu, even if he's playing, I don't think he can get in the World Cup squad now. So I think it's about playing. And I don't actually have any surprise or issue with Maynou or Xerxes knocking on the door of Ruben Amrum and saying, I want to go. I don't have a problem with that now. I probably did in August because the season's barely started. But I think two months in, you've got a right to be saying, look, I want to play. So I just disagree with people jumping on the back of Maynou for that reason, to be honest with you.

12:35What's the Ronaldo stuff? Right, let me talk to you about the Ronaldo stuff. Right, Ronaldo's not coming back. Apologies. I think some people in the chat are talking about his wages wouldn't be that bad. Let's do it. This is not about that. I think it's about something more interesting. And apologies if that's what you've taken from it because Ronaldo's not coming back to Man United. That's not what's happening. BC says, I'm fine with Maynou leaving. What about his wages? Let me come back to that, JC, because I think that's a good point. So the Ronaldo reunion is the development of the story of Man United playing games in midweek because we're not in Europe.

13:11So this came in from Nathan Salt and Chris Wheeler last night in that mail article where they were talking about Xerxes and a few other things. So United could bank more than 10 million pounds if they strike a deal to visit Saudi Arabia this season. According to industry sources, United are looking at ways to fill gaps in the calendar and a hole in the finances. so they're looking to arrange mid-season friendlies with Saudi one of the options under discussion and obviously as part of that they'd be looking at playing Al Nazea which is Ronaldo isn't it because that would be the biggest thing now look this is um look let me get a poll on this because I think this is uh this is exactly what a new show should be and you should be interactive in it should we play friendlies in Saudi this season?

14:04Now, I'm not going to change my opinion on this. You have every right to get yours in. We're broke. We couldn't afford a midfielder. We're broke. We couldn't afford a midfielder. We've ended up with Le Mens, which I'm happy with, but we couldn't afford a more expensive goalkeeper. So Man United need money. we're not in Europe we're not having a very good season with the whole having a whole week off is going to be a huge advantage we're still picking up injuries so the question is would you go and play a couple of games in Saudi midweek when the European games are on to bring 10 million into the club or would you go no we do need the training ground games now I also would add something else in here and the reason I mentioned Maynou to you is this would this not be the perfect thing to actually give people like Leon, Heaven, Manu, Agate, Xerxes, Kunja or Mount if they're not playing at the weekend would this not be the perfect opportunity to give people minutes that aren't getting minutes that are actually important players so yeah you could go out there with the first team squad and Bruno might play 45 minutes And, you know,

15:21De Litt might play 45 minutes, but Maguire might play 45 minutes. Heaven might play 50 minutes. So I actually think we've, as I was saying yesterday, we've actually got a very, very big squad. So doing things like this, I don't have much of an issue with it at all. I don't want us to be a business. I don't want us to be mercenary. But the fact is we are broke and the fact is we do need to buy players. so playing football to earn money I don't mind that compared to the players jumping on a bed because we've got a bed sponsor you know what I mean? Also it helps us do the deal with Bruno as well says JC Career mode's back at 4 o 'clock today by the way somebody just asked so I haven't got a problem with this I'd watch it I'd watch it if Man United were playing at midday on Wednesday when it's a Champions League game I'd watch it we'd do a watch along I don't think we should be doing it at 8 o 'clock on a Wednesday night when this Champions League game's on I mean we don't want to piss you afer off we do want to be back in the Champions League but I think if you do it like you know maybe 4 o 'clock in the afternoon on a Wednesday I don't know what time that is in Saudi what's the time now in Saudi the time now in Saudi Arabia is 12.15 so they're two hours ahead so if we did it at like I mean they do have 5.45 games don't they um and it is hot there um what's the weather and what's the weather in saudi

16:49i mean it's 33 degrees um it's hot look ultimately it's not my job to figure it out but i would do it i would do it if you can make 10 million pounds from going out there and it's a good idea and it's 10 million pounds we're not going to earn and i would do it i would do it and so would 68 % of you so look there is possibly a opportunity for Manchester United to play a couple of games in Saudi before the end of the season potentially against Ronaldo's Al Nazir to raise a bit of money because we're not in Europe I'm I haven't got a problem with it hey guys lady luck here are you going on any road trips this summer I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips.

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18:33And let's be real. If we play a game against Al Nazeera on a Wednesday night and then we've got Brentford at home on the weekend and we lose, the media are going to kill us. Some of the fans are going to kill us. But they're trying to kill us anyway. And I think sometimes the only people that matter are you. And personally, I would do it. I don't want us to be doing it, but I would do it because I think that is ultimately just the world that we live in now. Artex says, Morning Mark, based on your sources, what do you think is best with Manu right now? Loan, sell or stay? I just don't want another Ganacho situation.

19:10Cobby is not Ganacho. He doesn't behave on social media like Ganacho. He has much better people around him compared to Ganacho. So I wouldn't worry about him walking around in an Everton shirt or whatever. I don't think he's going to do that. ultimately like any footballer he has people around him who have his best interests at heart and the next contract for him is a big contract because he's not on particularly good wages at the moment now if Maynou leaves Manchester United and goes to a club that wants him Man United will make pure profit and he will make a good wage if Man United don't sell him they've got to give him a wage that he's happy with so I think it I think wage is important Artic Now for me I personally think That someone like Manu Who is not a regular For England anymore And is not a regular For Man United anymore Unfortunately He's got to readjust What he was worth I don't think Man United have purposely Took him out of the England squad Because by not picking him For Man United But The interesting thing About Manu is Just over a year ago When the Euros were on I think he could Knock on the door Of Omar Barada And say I want 150 grand a week and Man United probably have to write that check.

20:26Where we are now, I don't think he can demand that. Now, that might piss him off and he might say, look, I was worth that a year ago and I'm not worth it now because you're basically holding my career back. I want to move, I want to loan, etc. So look, there is a problem there. I'm not going to acknowledge that it's okay and I think sometimes people do this. The Bruno situation at Man United is not okay. 10th in the league is not okay. Some of our performances this season are not okay. I saw a journalist saying yesterday that Man United have shown no progress from last season to this season. I disagree with that because we've got a different goalkeeper now.

21:03We've got a different front three now. But look, and we're not in 15th, we're in 10th. We have shown progress. Is it enough progress? That's up for debate. But these conversations are going on and they're legitimate. In relation to Bruno Fanatic, in relation to Maynou, there is a legitimate problem there. We can't hide it. I like Maynou. I want Man United to do well. I want Amram to do well. but there is a legitimate problem there how we solve it our tech if it was me i'd be picking him so you know for me he stays in this situation if they're not going to pick him you've got to move him on you know i'm a realist um if if ruben amram doesn't fancy him and he didn't fancy him last season and he doesn't fancy him this season then he has to be moved on of course he does because ultimately what you're keeping him for we're meant to stop doing this like jose marino wanted to move Anthony Martial on the club said no Mourinho didn't really pick him that much and you end up in a situation where the fans are like why is Martial not started you know you've got to you've got to back your manager so ultimately I think he has to be moved on if he's not going to get picked but I want him to get picked La Familia says we beat Liverpool we are two points behind changes the view you know what honestly if Man United beat Liverpool people will be talking about winning the league people will be talking about we've got to get top four i don't like this i don't like this situation at all it's basically one game changes everything and i i don't think that's right just on the wages for manu by the way if it was me it would be staggered it would be based on performance it would be 80 90 grand a week with definitive markers that take it up so if you play 30 games in a season it goes up to 120 you know things like that uh if you get in the england team we'll give you 130 things like that you build it up you motivate players we should be doing that anyway i don't know why we're not doing that i don't like baseline wages um everybody should be you know mason mount's wage should never be 250 grand a week it should be 100 grand a week base if you play 20 games 20 premier league games then it goes up to 150 if you play 40 premier 40 games in a season because you can't play 40 premier league games it goes up to 200 if you get 10 goals um we'll give you 225 if you get 20 goal and assist contributions we'll give you 250 that's how it should work instead we give a 250 grand wage and then he earns more in bonuses over the top it's silly absolutely silly but look the problem is some clubs will pay these wages um but motivating players is what we should be doing 100 percent um if he's going why convert him to midfielder it's a waste of time says roy in relation to bruno to be so says unfortunately i think that united will have to be ruthless even cruel when it comes to mainu we're still injury fc and having two midfielders and a register is just not enough even without europe So Seth says, would we still get the same price for Bruno?

23:59If you will only get one midfielder, who would you get realistically? Mine's Anderson, Premier League proven and talent wasted under Ange. I think Elliot Anderson's a good player.

24:13I like Wharton. I really like Stille. I mean, I watch a lot of the Bundesliga now because we've got the rights on that football. Little plug. But I do like Stille. There are good options out there in the midfield. I think it's a good market, the midfield. It reminds me a little bit of the striker market this summer. I think the midfield market is going to be very good next summer. It's about what we end up with. But the warning sign is, I think the striker market was really good, but Dalat was plan A, Jokeres was plan B, Eketike was plan C, Wharton was plan D. We don't know whether Osserman was a plan or not.

24:46Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. So Sesko ends up as plan five. the same thing could happen in the summer you know, Belaba could go elsewhere Wharton could go elsewhere, Anderson could go elsewhere Stilla could go elsewhere and where are you going then? So we've been very lucky to land on Sesco because I think the striker market was really good this summer the midfield market is really good but I don't think we can continue just to get fifth choice, we won't get as lucky as we did with Sesco, like I think Sesco could easily be a plan A but I like Wharton uh play friendlies um sorry let's what was this from uh nick says play friendlies to pay for staff socks for the youth uh patrick lynch says off topic but not normally talked about here but i want to wish man united women team best of luck in their champions champions league debut later tonight well thank you very much for patrick for that for patrick because i didn't know that um so yeah good luck to them in the champions league not my daughter plays um a good standard of women's football.

25:49And I, you know, I like going to watch when she plays, but I don't follow women's football. And that's fine. And if you do follow it, well done. And if Patrick is telling us they're in the Champions League debut tonight, great stuff. I don't keep an eye on what the under 21s are doing. I don't keep an eye on what the under 18s are doing either. It's fine. That's absolutely fine. But I like it that Patrick has brought that in because we can wish them all the best and hope that they do well. And I hope they do. Hey, everybody. Lady Luck here. And we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino.

26:27It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. um jamie says has beth had a raise recently why did bruno stay i don't know the context of that jamie at all i'd need a little bit more um okay let's move on so very very quickly i just want to talk um a couple of things uh involving anana and maguire and then i want to circle back into something about what rennie mullenstein has said about uh ruben amrim as well so a little bit coming out about harry maguire over the last couple of days uh about him leaving in the summer Maguire doesn't want to leave Man United.

27:15So I was a little bit surprised about all this talk about Maguire leaving in the summer. Maguire doesn't want to leave Man United. He wants to stay at Manchester United. Do I think he will leave in the summer? Yes. Yes, I do. Because I think we've already seen this season what Harry Maguire was last season. He's the sort of player that can score a goal like the one against Lyon. And it's epic. He's the sort of player you can throw up front and you get his head on it. And he's the sort of player when you're being bombarded with crosses in the last 10 minutes, he'll get his head on stuff. But he's also the sort of player that if he gets isolated, he ain't quick.

27:56And, you know, there are limitations to his game and there are positives to his game. I think he's a bench centre-back now. I don't think he starts ahead of Martinez, Shaw, De Ligt, Masraoui, Yaro. I think they're all ahead of him for different reasons. so I think as a backup centre-back he's a bit like Johnny Evans isn't he you know if you can keep a player like that who's a leader in the dressing room it's not necessarily a bad thing and I think Ruben Amarin would like to keep him as well the big stumbling point is going to be the wage because he's on about 190 grand a week so he's going to have to take a big pay cut ultimately and I don't know whether he needs to do that when in the summer he's a free agent and can go and earn probably a better wage than Man United are going to offer um so I think it'll come down to the wage with with Harry I think realistically um that's what it will come down to um I personally think we should move on um not in a bad way but but I think we should be moving on because I think that we've got an abundance of centre-backs and you've got people like Heaven.

29:07We probably need to buy a centre-back as well. So I think he should probably move on. But if the wage offer is correct, I think he will stay. And I think that's what will probably happen there. Also, reports are coming in from Turkey that even though there's no obligation to buy for Inanna, they would like to keep Inanna at Traverson Spore. Great news. Great news. Absolutely fantastic.

29:38Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. This is great news. I don't care what he's doing at Trabson Spore. I think you could marginally say, you know, you look at McTominay, you look at Rasmus, you look at Rashford, maybe Ganacho at some point, maybe Anthony at some point. Maybe you look at that and go, what could have been? There is no part of an honour playing well for Trabson Spore that makes me think we made a mistake. I've seen enough over the last two years. He's a volleyball player. He's crap. If he's doing well at Trabson Sport, thank you. Well done. Wish you all the best. Take him off our hands.

30:12I do not want him back at Man United, even if he wins the Ballon d 'Or. I don't want him back at Man United. I've seen enough. He's not a good goalkeeper for Man United. So if he's doing well at Trabson Sport, I'm so pleased for him. It's great news. Let's hope they buy him. Great stuff. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm really happy he's doing well there. And I'm really happy with Lamens. Let's all move on. It's like the perfect divorce. You know, we're still friends. You know, it's not, it's, there's no animosity. It's not toxic. Let's just move on. We're, you know, it is like breaking up with someone and you're in a bar and you walk in with someone that you're, you've met, that you're really happy and you see them at the bar and they're really happy and it's not awkward.

30:56And you just throw them a smile and go, how you doing? nice to see you bye and and you walk off you know it's not like we're leaving oh god look at it look you know just happy move on lovely stuff great happy to see that um and that's it uh john united 12 says we should play 10 games in saudi might as well try to get 100 million solves a few problems why not says john i think just going back to that there are people moaning about it saying that it's it's mercenary it's against the fundamental you know look the Saudi league is seen as a threat to traditional football anyway because players that are good are going to that league to earn silly money the champions league the Europa League the Premier League is proper football and the Saudi league threatens that if Man United not in the Champions League and not in the Europa League go, we're mercenaries, we're going to Saudi now to earn a bit of money.

31:53It makes us look like a bunch of twats. I get that argument. I do get that argument. We wouldn't be going to Saudi if we were in the Europa League. We wouldn't do it. So I do understand that. I do. I completely understand it. I completely understand that we're going over there to take the money to undermine UEFA because we're not in it. I get that. That argument's fine. But I'd go and play in New York against LA Galaxy or into Miami. I'd do this in Miami against Messi. You know, we can go to LA and play Sont. I'd do this against AC Milan or Leipzig who are not in Europe and let's play it in, you know, Saudi anyway.

32:35I don't care where we do it. Let's do it in Dublin. Like, it's not because it's Saudi. Let's do it in the MLS. Let's fly to New York. It's six hours. so like it's not nothing to do with Saudi for me I think that logically um we we we we should um we should do it you know I don't like that the club's in this situation but I'm not they run it like a bloody business anyway we may as well go and play a bit of football and earn a bit of money that might buy us a midfield simple as that um Ray Simpson says is Bruno the heart that needs to be removed is the sacrificial lamb i don't know whether he's the heartbeat of the team because i wouldn't say his performances are good enough at times but i i i think um i i think it's um i think it's time to do it um you know i look at liverpool with van dyke and sala i think they're transitioning them out i don't think they're as good as they were and i think they're transitioning them out um but they're a team that's just won the league we finished 15th I think we need to take more drastic action than that.

33:42I don't think we've got the time or the need to phase players out. You know, Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, Bruno Fernandes, these sort of players for me, I think you could ruthlessly remove them quite quickly and move on. You know, what's your thoughts on the Rashford news, says James. I don't know what the Rashford news is. So you'd need to tell me on that. We share. Thank you very much. Also Gizmo says What are your thoughts on Gary Neville's comments And the backlash from Simon Jordan Mark Honestly Honestly My opinion on it is You're dragging me into something I don't want to have an opinion on For a start Because I want to talk about football And that therefore Brings my opinion out Because it's impossible not to have an opinion On something without giving an opinion So my opinion is that what was said I saw.

35:04quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited visit spinquest.com for more details and it made very little impact on my life talking about football because it football it wasn't football related so that's my opinion on it um away from the football some people might really disagree with it they might really agree with it some people might say it's been taken out of context and all those sort of things which you know is fine i do not agree with simon jordan or talk sport talking about something that's got nothing to do with sport to try and demean and score points and cancel somebody that's doing far better than they are in the football space and as somebody that's been a victim of this in different ways i don't get involved in these arguments because they're nothing to do with football but why is a football predominantly football outlet taking the opportunity to try and cancel somebody when they're not talking about football and that to me I was sort of like am I watching GB news with Piers Morgan or am I looking at a clip from a football channel and that to me was my issue with it I don't do politics I don't get involved in it I don't get involved in those sort of things because I don't want to upset you with me imparting my political views on you, you're here because we talk about football.

36:31Why is that different for talk sport? That was my problem with it. Simple as that. What people are forgetting, says Martin Saunders, is we're broke and if successful, we can do some other things against other big teams, not in Europe competition. Saudi is a good test run, says Martin Saunders. Look, I don't think we're contractually obliged by UEFA if we don't qualify for their tournaments to sit on our arse and do nothing. I actually said this in the summer before it was even a thing. I remember us talking about this in the summer, in July. I remember us saying in July, AC Milan are not in Europe.

37:10Why don't we do a five-game series around different places and earn a bit of money? Like we could literally have a series against AC Milan. They're doing quite well in Serie A this year as well. Why don't we do five games against AC Milan and earn a bit of money so I don't think I don't think there's a problem with that at all let me just talk about what Rennie Mullinstein has said I saw this on Sky this morning I mean yeah I mean look obviously the obsession we're talking about Man United is is clearly there but he is a former assistant coach of Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson he very rarely says anything nice about anybody whether it's ten hog jose mourinho ralph ragnick and now reuben amrin i don't know whether there is a sense of bitterness that um he's been overlooked in the past to come back to man united i don't know what it's all about but i very rarely see him say anything positive about the current coach of manchester united what he basically said this morning was back on the system approach and basically saying that he felt that amrin had made a big mistake by coming in and saying that he was playing 3-4-3 and he wasn't going to change.

38:20He feels that he should have looked at the players and, you know, been adaptable and it would have brought him more time if he'd said, look, I want to play this system, but with what I've got, I've got to work with what I've got. I've got to be adaptable. And, you know, ultimately that's what I'm going to do. I think this is a classic example of, I genuinely think you can look at any problem in football and present two arguments i really do you know bruno fernandez stay or go you can argue both may knew is he right is he wrong you can argue both um should we have signed a midfielder i mean obviously i don't think any idiot's going to defend the fact that we didn't but most things you can so there will be people going oh i agree with rennie mullenstein you know amarin should have gone and abandoned his system and tried something new um yeah i completely agree it would have bought him more time.

39:12Eric Ten Hag said, I can't play like I did with Ajax with these players and he got slaughtered for it. So I call hypocrisy. If Ruben Amrum did the same and went, I know I got appointed from Sporting because I play a 3-4-3 and it's really exciting and everyone thinks I'm a hipster manager and I beat Man City and I won the league and I did really, really well. I'm not doing it here because the players can't do it. So I'm just going to try something new. Can you imagine what the media would have said? So let me get this straight. We bring in Ruben Amrim, who's a great coach playing a 3-4-3, and he abandons it straight away because he can't do it.

39:49Oh, what a great coach he is. What stupid idea that was. That's basically what Mullenstein and some people are saying he should do when they say change the formation. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. If you stick with it, you're stubborn and you're not adaptable. If you abandon it, well, why did they employ him in the first place? He's obviously not a very good coach. he has to stick to what he's doing i look i don't know whether amram is going to survive or not but he has to stick to what he's doing 100 he has to stick to what he's doing because if he doesn't it becomes what ten hog was or what ollie was playing a back five at the end you abandon what you're all about to survive and you can't do that so he has to stick to what he's all about also i think people forget that if ruben amram abandoned the three four three and played a four 3-3 which he's never done he'd basically be using the players in a system where they've already sacked a manager anyway i find it hilarious that people think if we go to 4-3-3 we're going to win the league we literally were playing 4-3-3 a year ago and they sacked a manager so i don't agree with this constant recycling of opinion that reuben amrim needs to be adaptable and not play a 3-4-3 because we've sacked managers with a 3-4-3-3 with the same players the obvious logical solution whether it's glasner who replaces amirim or whether amirim stays or whoever is to stick it out with the system and replace the players that's the way to do it um 100 that's the way to do it like if If Amrim hasn't got the players for his system, give him the players for the system.

41:25And what I find really, really hard is that when these people are saying he should change his system, I'd like to sit them down and go, are you happy with the midfield then? What do you mean? Well, you want us to go to a 4-3-3. He's playing with two midfielders and they're not good enough. So now you want to play with three midfielders. Well, yeah, Bruno would be the number 10. Well, who plays behind Bruno then? Casemiro and Agate? Maino and Agate. Yeah. Okay. what if they're not good enough we need midfielders amram needs midfielders he doesn't want to play mainu and agate because he doesn't think they're good enough so he clearly needs midfielders so we need midfielders regardless of your system change we need midfielders um and i think that's that's sort of like where i'm at with it um i think that this constant talk of changing system or formation is so bloody boring.

42:17I would say to Rennie Mullenstein what I've said to you. If you want to see a formational change, fine. Well done. No one's telling you that you're wrong. If you want to see a 4-3-3, great. I'm on my career mode later. I'm not playing a 3-4-3. I play a 4-3-3. That's the... I like 4-3-3. I like wingers. I like a back four. I like a 4-3-3. I would like to see a 4-3-3. But when we brought Amram in, I knew we weren't going to get that. so I got behind it. If you want a 4-3-3 or whatever formation you want, you need to be Amrim out. There's no point Rennie Mullenstein sitting on Sky Sports saying, I think Amrim needs to change the formation, this, that and the other.

42:54Have the courage of your conviction. He's told you he's not going to change it. You need to say Amrim out. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on spinquest.com which is an American owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. Stop talking about a formational change for Ruben Amrim.

43:33He's not going to change it. It's like your neighbor having a red door and you want it to be blue. Are you going to change the color of your door? No, I like red. You should change the colour of your door. You should change it to blue. I like red. It doesn't fit in with the rest of the road. It's my door. It's red. Oh, I think you should change it. Jim, do you think you should change the colour of his door? Yeah, I do. Yeah, well, I'm not. It's my door and I'm changing it to red. I'm keeping it as a red. You're confusing me now, but it's staying as it is. This constant telling him to change his formation when he doesn't want to is a waste of everybody's time.

44:07just say if you want the change you have to change the manager and be amram out it's as simple as that i'm so bored of listening to pundits and fans going he's got to change he's got to change he doesn't have to bloody change he doesn't have to change if you want to change you change the manager and be amram out but they're too cowardly to say that it's just a it's a coward's way of saying, Amram out. Oh, he needs to change. He's not adaptable. Just say what you really think. We're all bloody grown-ups. It's 2025. Just say it. Say those words, you know? But they don't want to do it because, oh, I don't want to be toxic on Sky.

44:51Do you think Sesco is doing okay in Manchester United? Says Kelly. I'm very happy. I'm very happy with... I'm very happy with Sesco, yeah. you know he's scoring goals there's a lot of work to be done there's a lot of progress there there's a lot of potential there there's a lot of development there but you know you can't criticize and come up with nicknames when he's scoring goals I think there's a lot more to come but yeah I'm very very happy with him Robert McCormack says Eddie Howe is adaptable I saw Paul Scholes say yesterday actually that he Eddie Howe as Man United manager the only thing I would say about that is that um newcastle haven't had the best start again um i think newcastle are a very very well-run club and i think eddie howe has done a fantastic job there um yeah i think he's done really really well at um newcastle but unless he was sacked i don't think you'd ever get him out of Newcastle so yeah I mean you know you ask Paul Scroles who he'd like as manager I've seen I've seen Paul Scroles and other people talk about signing Kimmich and people like that you know you ask them a question they can give an answer there's a real world there's a real world answer and Eddie Howe is not the answer to that we we would we can't get Eddie Howe out of Newcastle it would be ridiculous money um and it wouldn't happen so he's not realistic anyway but um he's definitely adaptable like like like robert says definitely um that was from martin we've already read that thank you very much for that um what has how done really says joe i mean look it's not the eddie howe show let's not pretend that it is but um he took a team that was in a relegation battle into the champions league um he's took them back into the champions league he's took them to two cup finals one of which they've won um i think he's done a very very good job and um would i like him at man united oh look if ruben amram got sacked and they went for eddie howe um i don't think it's necessarily the worst thing in the world but it's a fantasy it you know it is a fantasy so I can't I can't really Comment on fantasy You know I want to talk about reality And the reality is If Amarin was to go I mean I was thinking about Doing this over the International break And I'm not going to do it I find it disrespectful Like who would you go for If Amarin Maybe we'll do it No I don't think I will but if Amrim gets sacked it's going to be in my opinion Glasner, Iriola at Bournemouth I'd still put Southgate in there even though I don't want to Xavi would be in there as well I think it'd be one of those four I'd love Conte to be involved Bok but I don't think he would be Christian says talk about the Rashford news what is the bloody Rashford news Are we just having a little bit of banter here about Rashford or something?

48:10Because I don't know what the Rashford news is. And please don't tell me it's the Rashford news from yesterday that Beth spoke about, because that's not news. I hate going back. I hate going back to old stories that we've already covered. Slow sports news. The only Rashford news I know is that Barcelona don't want to pay£25 million for him. They don't want to play. They want to pay less. this is what Liam said mate I always said this Barcelona ain't stupid they're a very powerful club unlike Real Madrid who will give you a fair price Barcelona will drive you down Barcelona will do the same thing as Real Madrid like come to Matt come to Barcelona come to Barcelona we're great and players will literally bend over for it and United could get bent over here big time because we have got no play here if Rashford loves Barcelona which he does and he wants to and he only wants to go to Barcelona they'll play the game they'll all play the game and if they drive that price down they drive that down price down so it could get priced down um do I think he's worth less than 25 million I think they're having a bloody laugh do I think they might get him for less than that yeah yeah um but it was spoken about by beth yesterday i i think he's worth more than 25 million i think he knows he's worth more than 25 million but if he wants to go to barcelona they'll they'll get him cheap won't they um pokey says six months ago i mentioned eddie howe and you laughed but i am still laughing at it i'm still laughing at it now it won't happen it's a fantasy it's not real so i'm laughing at it but i'm just saying i'm not I'm just being nice and saying, look, he's done a good job at Newcastle and he is adaptable.

50:00But do you want the real answer? It's laughable to think we get Eddie Howe at Man United. We won't get him. No chance. If Ruben Amarin went to 4-3-3, they'd criticise the style of play. Says Terp, they would. Thank you very much for that. And I honestly don't think, Stefano says, I honestly don't think there's a coach out there that would make this team consistently perform. They will get a bounce and that's it. And that's sort of where I am, Stefano, as well. I don't see a massive improvement in United. I don't want to change. I don't know that Amrim is going to do well, but I also don't have any excitement for a manager change either.

50:38That's sort of where I am. On last night's show, is there anything we can do as fans from countries aboard like Ireland to try and change these owners? It's so sad, frustrating that it seems like nothing will change, says Hartmaster. Look, I'll repeat what I was told many months ago. I can't claim this. It's a news show. I'll just give it you. When it was about eight months after the Super League protests where the Liverpool game got cancelled and I can't reveal who said it because I can't bloody remember. I don't know whether it was a journalist or somebody from Must or the 58 or whatever. I doubt it was the 58 because I wouldn't have been speaking to them at that point.

51:20But basically what was said, I can't remember who it was and I'd love to give credit to whoever it was. It might have been the Man United Sports Trust. It might have been a journalist. Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favourite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned spinquest.com. What's better than fireworks and American pie? Hitting a blackjack in the palm of your hand and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games including slots and live dealers and$30 point packs are on sale for 10. spinquest.com by american players for american players spin quest is a free-to-play social casino void where prohibited visit spinquest.com for more details what they basically said was that there's only two things that will hurt the glazes um sponsorships pulling out and games getting cancelled and when team viewer pulled out that shit themselves they shit themselves and team viewers sort of pulled out because of a lot of negativity uh they found a replacement of course they did but they shit themselves about that um they hate it when that happens and also when the Liverpool game got cancelled they absolutely shit themselves as well so protests outside the ground don't necessarily bother them um glazes out trending on x doesn't bother them money bothers them so when brands pull out or don't want to do stuff that bothers them when games get cancelled that's that bothers them and look that's not i don't know whether that's fact or not fact or fiction but that was what said and look honestly when the liverpool game got cancelled i think it was around the covid times wasn't it it's the only time joel glazes got on a fan forum he did us he got on a fan forum and spoke to the fans so look protests are great etc fantasy about emptying grounds will never happen the glazes need to be hit in the pocket if you want them out and that's why some people are like i really hope the regeneration project doesn't happen because if that happens it's five years to build it and 20 years to earn off it they'll be here for the they'll be here for another generation.

53:35But yeah.

53:43Form says, just curious, sorry. Form says, curious, who did you want to replace Sir Alex? Well, everyone else can put that in there as well.

54:01who did I want to replace

54:06Amorim not Amorim Sir Alex God I mean we weren't even doing the United Stand then I want I think I wanted Mourinho I think I wanted Mourinho I wanted everybody apart from Bloody Moyes but I think I wanted Mourinho at the time um if I remember correctly a lot of people had took jobs I think Ancelotti had took a job um Pep had obviously took a job I think um I think Mourinho still hadn't announced the Madrid job when Sir Alex announced he was going so I think I wanted Mourinho yeah but Sir Alex left so late there wasn't much left that was the problem but yeah I would I would have wanted I would have loved to have got Jose then I think he would have been the perfect guy to take over then um you can study a lot about Sir Alex I mean he's a great the greatest ever but the timing of his exit led us to Moyes and you know that needed to be far better planned than that um but life takes over i don't think i think it happened late because he made a late decision as was his right you know if sir alex ferguson decided on june the first he wasn't going to carry on anymore he earned the right to do that but it it didn't help us him announcing it so late because we weren't prepared and um you know even though they all thought david moyes was going to work i never thought it was going to work i thought it was an absolute waste of time anyway thanks everyone for watching take care we're back at 2 o 'clock another cracking 8 o 'clock show planned for you tonight I won't divulge what it's about but we've had two brilliant 8 o 'clock shows this week talking about stuff and Pan says friendlies are the only way that Obi gets game time as well good point absolute legends this morning really really enjoyed it I hope you have as well take care stay safe and I'll speak to you a little bit later

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