211: SORRY! Amorim TRANSFER Mistake!

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1:26Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news. As United admits a big mistake which is going to cause Ruben Amrim problems in the midfield. We've also got Joshua Zerksi heading to Italy, James Garner heading back to Manchester United, Man City entering the race for a midfield target for Manchester United as well. What's going on with the share price and we look ahead to a big weekend for Manchester United. Actually, it's quite a weird one this morning. We've actually got quite a lot. Well, for a new show, it's good.

2:00We've got a lot going on. But I was a couple of minutes late, not because I've got a fresh trim, but because I've got something very big to reveal for the community. You may see it in the live chat. You may see it pinned. But our new Christmas jumper is available for pre-order. Link in the description or go to United Stand Shopify. I think this is the best one we've ever done. It sort of hits on some of my favourite colour themes, and I just think it's amazing. Here we go. It's brilliant. I just love the colours. Love the colours. On the back there, you've got that as well. It sort of encapsulates something a little bit different, but my favourite United colours, and as I say, it's available now to pre-order worldwide.

2:45And I'm going to wear it on the 8 o 'clock preview show tonight. So, yes, you can get it now. We only do a limited number. they are knitted jumpers these are let me just show that show you the uh that is a knitted jumper so we do the normal printed jumpers but these are the limited edition runs that we do every year and this is a knitted jumper available to pre-order now worldwide when they're gone they're gone so get involved in that lovely stuff um okay so let's get into the show what we're going to talk off with well the title this morning is sorry amrim transfer mistake but it's not reuben amrim that's made this mistake i think over this international break and before even through the summer we have enough evidence now to say that I don't actually think our recruitment team has done a good job um opened the floodgates but but I don't I actually think that there is almost something that gets called out a lot around our ownership around Sir Jim Radcliffe about around the Glazers but I think it needs calling around our recruitment team as well whether that be Jason Wilcox Omar Barada whoever they actually haven't done a good job and the scrutiny is never on them It's always on Amrim or Sir Jim.

3:51It's never on them. And I think at this point, it's very, very clear when you listen to the journalist interviews that we've had over this international break and other comments from other journalists over the summer. Man United dropped the ball majorly on that midfield. We're hearing this morning that Brighton will not be selling Belaver in January without a ridiculous fee, which we walked away from in the summer. we know that Crystal Palace are going to do the same we know that Nottingham Forest are going to do the same with Elliot Anderson so the chances of Manchester United buying midfielder in January are minuscule and that again will go back to the failing of the summer now I saw something this morning which I will shout out which I just want to just throw in as a sort of added piece here I can't remember who it was who tweeted it EBL they are on X Manchester United have got no left winger no long-term number six no left-sided centre-half that can play in a back four because of Ruben Amram's idea also overstacked with number tens but short on number eights if he leaves the club will have to spend a lot of money to go back to a back four big issues and you know what it's true I feel like we're in a bit of a halfway house at the moment with United because they've not fully committed to Amram and if they get rid of Amram where they might have to because they haven't fully committed to him that problem presents itself as well and I think it's a great point I think it's one many of you've mentioned before but look I think that there is this hope and belief and I have it as well that we might go and buy a midfielder in January but I sort of look at it and go who's that going to be the club made a decision in the summer that we didn't need to do it now I don't for one minute think Ruben Amrin was sat there going we don't need a midfielder I think he did want a midfielder but I think the club decided against it now that might have been financial pressure that could have been Omar Barada saying we haven't got any money could have been Jason Wilcox and Ruben Amrim saying we need a midfielder we don't know the detail because they don't talk they just don't talk but the reality is in the final two days of the window we tried to get Connor Gallagher two weeks before that we tried to get Carlos Belaber we ended up with nothing they made a mistake they need to own that mistake they made a huge mistake it's already costing us goals this season we've seen Bruno Fernandes twice cost us goals in the midfield and there are probably other situations where Casemiro, you know, et cetera, maybe even Mainou, maybe even Agate.

6:11I'm not saying they're the answer, but we are definitively short in that area and we've made a massive mistake and we're not going to resolve that mistake in January based on the fees for the players that we want to go for. And also we're very unlikely to go for stopgaps. I mean, the stopgaps were there. Paulinha from Bayern Munich is doing a great job at Spurs and they don't even need a midfielder and they could well you know i could have done that so i think i think from what we've heard from people like fabrizio romano david ornstein ben jacobs rob dawson even last week we've heard that it wasn't amram's decision to not buy a midfielder now we're probably never going to get the clarity on whose decision it was but it's a big mistake and it causes big problems and when you read that as well there's a bigger picture at play here and that bigger picture is that we're about to play football games again we're not in a mini international break where there's no accountability and every opinion can be right because there's nothing to prove it wrong we're about to go back into the territory of evidence now where results will prove people right or wrong and if if things go tits up and amram gets the sack then i would agree with that we haven't got any wingers we haven't got any long-term midfielders um we it would be very very difficult for a new manager to come in anyway regardless it's a very very difficult job even if you went and got someone who plays a 3-4-3 it's that they still need players but if we go back to a 4-3-3 you could argue we need more players I mean this is just tremendously brilliant vision by whoever you know put this plan in place isn't it let's go for a 3-4-3 coach and half do a job so that if we need to sack him we've got to do a massive job to go back to a 4-3-3 or keep spending on the 3-4-3.

8:00It's a halfway house. And that's why try and build something if you can't bloody afford it. But I think it's a great point because Amorim still needs a lot of players for his system. And if we abandon this system or have to abandon this system, you could argue, I mean, I suppose in a sentence, what I'm saying is they've made massive mistakes in the summer that are probably going to hurt us every week this season. And if they are forced into making a change with the manager, you could argue that Amrin probably needs another 300 million to half a billion to spend to make as a challenge. I would argue if we go back to a 4-3-3, you might need a little bit more than that.

8:48In fact, you might need a lot more than that because I don't know where the wingers are coming from to go back to a 4-3-3. So, yeah, look, I think it's an error. I think it's a mistake. And I don't think we'll get any accountability for that. But the reason it's worth mentioning is because there is absolutely zero pressure. And I want to ask this. Look, this is not a witch hunt. Leave that for two weeks time on Halloween. Why is it there is no scrutiny on a CEO and a director of football who arguably have created this mess? My fellow Americans, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1 ,776 ,000 in prizes.

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10:32That's GoodRanchers.com. Good Ranchers. American meat delivered. Who is making the decisions at Manchester United? because if the CEO and the director of football are safe, it must be someone else making the decisions and making the mistakes because I don't think Sir Jim Madcliffe is the sort of guy that if Barada was involved in this, he wouldn't have sacked him. So it makes me think that the bad decisions go a little bit higher than that. I'll give you two thoughts on that one anyway, but unlikely that Man United are going to be buying a midfielder in January. Brighton will want the same fee that they wanted before.

11:09Brighton Crystal Palace are going to want 70 for Wharton and don't want to do it in January even this morning there's a report coming in I think it's from the mail that Man City are plotting a 75 million bid for Elliott Anderson next summer Chelsea Man United also interested I mean look I don't want to add to the add to the conversation although that's exactly what we're here for um this this is this not the problem that i think i or or or some of you agreed with me certainly i remember saying it when we didn't get belabor i remember saying the problem we've got here is is that everybody had spent their budget chelsea liverpool man city arsenal and we went for belabor right at the end of the window and i thought the timing of it and And I remember saying this, the timing of this is excellent because we've actually gone late in the window.

12:05We've gone big and it's a player that a lot of clubs would like. I would argue that he'd be on the radar of PSG, Real Madrid as well as the top English clubs. And we left it late in the window. And I thought this is amazing because we're a club that's finished 15th. We've got a bit of a pull because we're Manchester United, but we don't have Champions League football. it only takes one of Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, PSG, Real Madrid to come in and that becomes a very difficult deal for us to do. So I was like this is great this is a brilliant brilliant bit of business because we've left it late everyone else has spent their budgets we've got a free run at this all we've got to do is get the fee done with Brighton.

12:44Obviously we didn't do that I remember saying like well we've gone from greatness to stupidness here because when we try and get him next year everybody knows we want him everybody knows Brighton are willing to sell him and suddenly Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid etc their summer budgets are revitalized and that becomes a more difficult deal to do and I think this is really important as well when you're talking about Wharton you're talking about Anderson you're talking about Stilla you're talking about the labour there's seven or eight clubs better than us with better prospects with the money it doesn't matter whether there's four or five good midfield targets next summer look sesco was option five for us and we got we did well but we might not get away with that in the summer and this is what worries me about the midfield i think it's a massive mistake i think we've made a massive mistake and i unfortunately i don't subscribe to the view that oh yeah we've got the pick of midfielders next summer because I think that's because we live in a Man United bubble what about every other club um yeah that's my thoughts on it um let me just grab some of your thoughts on this because there's quite a lot to go through this morning uh if you're doing well so um morning everyone sends you all love glazes out and prayers for sunday says nj come on united says cc and mma takedown says your builders are moving slower than inios and uh tom colvin says pre-ordered the jumper got it for the last three years here in perth i think it's the best one yet tom thank you very much for that could you do a shot a chart show for the five worst players is marlo no i'm not really motivated by that sort of shit to be honest i can't stand marlo i like marlo i can't stand marlo you know what i can't stand the top 10 worst signings of the season yeah i can't stand i think it's um there used to be magazines in the 90s like you know nuts and And it basically played to the low intellect of men and maybe women as well.

14:51Maybe they read it. I don't know. But my point is, I just find that type of content quite low hanging through. It's like my dad's better than your dad sort of crap. Although at two o 'clock, join me live where I do who was better, Manchester United or Arsenal ever. No, I'm joking. I don't do it. I try not to do that sort of stuff. who else is actually having a good feeling about Liverpool I hope I don't eat my words says TTV me me we're live at eight o 'clock with our preview tonight looking forward to it and I'll wear the Christmas jumper uh and Christopher says the only hope I have the only hope the only hope I have is Glazers may want to enjoy some billions and age isn't on their side it's a slim chance but I still live in hope that was from uh Christopher well look with some news this morning he was on our show actually a few weeks ago uh kieran maguire very good on the football uh finance side of things um not to you know i don't think this pushes things either way but he just basically said this more speculative this was a post that he put out this morning in relation to the man united share price more speculative buying drives further growth of almost eight percent in manchester united share price today meaning that market cap is now 485 million dollars in a week and it It posts a graph basically saying that, yeah, you know, it's gone up in the past five days.

16:17It's tracking from like. Effectively,$15.30 to$18.30. So it's a three dollar increase. And. You know, whilst that share price keeps going up, I mean, I don't know what at what point it hits it, But whilst that share price keeps going up, the question has to be, at what point do we get some clarity on what's actually going on?

16:50I think there has to become a point where something has to be said. But look, as I said, I think maybe, maybe. I hope the share price is going up because people think there's going to be a sale. um but you could argue the share price is actually going up because of um because the stadium might get built as well so you know i don't know i don't know i think i think when it comes to the sale of manchester united i'm very much of the opinion that you know what will be will be and we're probably going to end up sticking with what we've got um yeah um keel i'm not talking about dan ashworth again we'll talk about dan ashworth keel very very quickly because it just gets very boring for everybody else.

17:33We never should have employed Dan Ashworth. I think it's the best thing that Ineos ever did, sacking him. I think the guy is an absolute bang average director of football when you look at his career. He gets credit for signings he didn't even make at Brighton and Newcastle. He has a Gareth Southgate obsession, and ultimately you're fired. If I'm employing you and you say, what about Southgate? I'm like, I'm not saying any words, you know, Mr Burns, press the button, release the hounds. Yeah, I have got nothing good about Dan Ashworth to say. Absolutely nothing. If you recommend Gareth Southgate for a job, release the hounds.

18:12It's as simple as that. We move on. OK, let me talk to you about Xerxes. So Fabrizio Romano basically talking about Joshua Xerxes and saying that there is a likelihood that Italian clubs will be back in for him in January. It's a bit like Deja Vu. Like Beyonce. Yeah, it's a bit like Deja Vu. I think Maynou is the more travelled conversation because I think Amidfield is a joke and we want to see Maynou in there. But I think with regards to Zerksi... My fellow Americans, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1 ,776 ,000 in prizes. And one lucky winner is going to take home 1 million SC.

19:03Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino. I find it harder to make a case for Xerxes to be in a Manchester United side. I think it's really difficult to say it. I think on the weekend, we're going to see a player I think needs to start, sit on the bench. Tanya is going to be sat on the bench at the weekend for Mason Mount. Some people agree with that, some people don't. But my point is, nobody is going to be on the preview show at 8 o 'clock live tonight saying where's Xerxes.

19:43So I think with Xerxes, at some point, it's a little bit like, you know, you're hungry and it's an all you can eat takeaway and you get loads of dishes and you're happy. And then you look over and you go, oh, I wish I'd got some egg fried rice and chips, which is a weird combination. But I don't know. Maybe I wish I got some beef bourguignon. And I feel that's a little bit like what it is with Xerxes. it's like we've got enough options and then we see something else we like and go oh I wish I'd got that but there's no way you're going to be able to eat it all it's just greed and I think with Xerxes this is a prime example of well let's go back to what we were speaking about about the midfield a mistake an obvious mistake um where my concern with Manchester United is at the moment in relation to our recruitment and Paul Scholes was on about this saying you know there's nobody in that football club who seems to know what a Manchester United player is.

20:42There doesn't seem to be anybody in that football club who understands squad ethics in relation to what you need for a Premier League season. Now, Amarim has never managed in the Premier League, so I can sort of forgive that. It takes time. The Portuguese league beyond three or four teams is just not that competitive um the intensity won't be the same the scrutiny is not the same so amrim is always going to be learning and it's very difficult to learn when you're thrown into it um now that he's had a pre-season i think this will be his first season that he actually learns about the demands of the premier league because what he does in pre-season will set him up for the rest of the season whereas last season he inherited it but i do look at it from a again from a recruitment team And I go, OK, if you can give Amrim some leeway, what about the rest of the people on that panel, on that board?

21:36Because I look at Xerxes and I go. This was obvious. This did this reminds me of Jadon Sancho when he came back under Ten Hag and people were going, oh, the star boy has returned. The star boy has returned. And I remember like he did OK on preseason and people were saying, I think he's going to be a number 10. I remember having the conversation going, and at that time, you know, if Sancho was playing well, great. But I remember saying at the time, there's no way Sancho gets any minutes under Ten Hag. They've had a fallout, even if you believe they've made friends. Ten Hag loves Rashford. Ten Hag loves Anthony.

22:15Ten Hag loves Bruno. Ten Hag loves Ganacho. Where does Jadon Sancho start? Where does he even get minutes? And lo and behold, he was loaned off to Chelsea. And the same thing with Urksi. You could see it coming a mile off. He actually was injured for the last two months of the season, last season. We then have Mason Mount fit, Cunha and Embermo come in. Bruno has to go to midfield and you go, well, I don't need a rocket scientist to tell me that. Amorim is going to favour Embermo, Cunha, Mount and Bruno and Ahmad before he plays Xerxes. And here we are. And you look at it and you go. there has always been interest in Xerxi there was interested in there was interest in Xerxi since he signed for Manchester United um did we keep him because he got injured because he was injured for most of July and August was that why we kept him I don't know because to me you can say well we needed him for the numbers we never needed him for the numbers we never needed him for the numbers we're only playing one game a week we don't need that many number 10s so again I sort look at it and go was it because we couldn't sell him or was it because we were stupid and didn't think we would need to sell him because I like Xerxes I like Xerxes I actually think it's a shame because after a bad first six months when he decided to stay in January actually started playing well till he got injured but he's just got no future at the football club there's there's no way now unless something incredible happens there's just no there's there's no future for him at Manchester United and again I just think it comes down to piss poor planning because I'm like we've got way too many number 10s not enough midfielders and I mean people say Xerxes can play as a striker I don't know that he can you know I mean I think that's why he's here I think he probably is here as the backup to Sesco but then I don't think we'd use him as the backup to Sesco I think he'd put Kunja there.

24:20I think Amrim's already shown that he would play Kunja or Mbomo up front rather than Xerxes. Xerxes just surpassed the requirements, isn't he? In many ways, his situation is worse than Maynus. And you'd question why we kept him. Again, just poor planning, as far as I'm concerned. Ireland Boy says, Sir Jim has the opportunity to actually back Amrim with giving him a top midfielder in January. He will show he's doing something different, easy tapping. think um I'm happy to go back to that mate and I'd love to be wrong in relation to what I'm about to say but Man United buying a midfielder in January at the value that we need I would say next to no chance financially I don't think we've got the money and you're gonna need 70 million minimum to get Wharton, Anderson, the Labour out of their respective clubs in the middle of the season.

25:17We won't have that money. We just won't have that money. And we won't be able to commit to it not knowing the unknown. And the unknown, categorically, will be we don't know whether we're going to be in Europe next May or not. So as I said to you last night, there are many people far more educated on the finances of Man United than me, who believe that if we don't qualify for Europe this season, next summer will be an absolute, well, it might be the summer we thought this summer was going to be in relation to lack of funds and exodus from United. So, I mean, maybe that's why they're trying to negotiate with the likes of Harry Maguire and Casemiro, because they're like, if the shit hits the fan and we're not in Europe and we've got no money, it's cheaper to keep a Harry Maguire around than it is to try and rebuild a team.

26:21Things could get worse, basically. um so i i don't see a scenario where we get um you know a 70 million pound midfielder in january it can be done it can be done if you're chelsea and god i think many of us crave that type of ownership but unlikely with united um somebody just said what about the james garner story i mean look this should not be on a united news show but i will answer it because somebody in the chat asked about it i've got me coffee this is now a feature um basically what do we got so um yeah james garner man united wants to bring james garner back to the club three years after selling him for nine million um honestly the source is not great um

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27:53So that's, yeah, that's the start on that. How old is James Garner, by the way? I mean, you never say never with Manchester United, but James Garner is a player that we never should have sold in the first place and we should have given him a chance at United. because where we are now, he'd be better than three of the midfielders that we've already got. He's playing better than Casemiro. He's playing better than Agate, and he's better than Bruno. Now, whether he's at the level we need, that's something completely different. But look, the source is terrible. And I like Garner, but I don't think it's that.

28:45The thing about these sort of signings is I like James Garner. We never should have let him go. He's done a good job at Everton. But where's the cue for him from Spurs, Newcastle, Villa? You know, that's I want Man United to be buying players that Liverpool want, Arsenal want. That's when, you know, Cunha and Mbermo are the right type of signings. Because Liverpool and Arsenal fans are not going to acknowledge that they really wanted Mbermo and Cunha. But if they'd signed them in the summer, they'd have gone, oh yeah, that's a good signing. With James Garner, with all due respect, he's better than three of the four midfielders we've got.

29:20But there's not going to be a big club, a big queue of clubs looking to sign him. And I think, I've said it a few times, we're just like Everton. We're becoming the new Everton. I mean, would that not be literally becoming Everton, signing one of their midfielders that we didn't want anymore? So, yeah, the source is crap. I'd be stunned if United did it. But just to just to give it a little bit of airway. That's that's my thoughts on that. This this this is just a couple of topical things. First of all, Lenny Yorreau has officially made the 25 man shortlist for the 2025 Golden Boy Award. That is a positive, you know, a positive there for Leni Oro.

30:08Amazing that he got dropped for Harry Maguire, wasn't it? Even though he did nothing wrong, but we'll leave it there. And Frankie de Jong has signed a new contract until 2029 with Barcelona. So it's 2025. He signed a new contract with Barcelona until 2029. Another four years of Frankie de Jong at Barcelona. what's the relevancy of that absolutely none other than to say um he is a player that Manchester United spent a whole summer looking at and uh yeah what could have been well I say what could have been we did print the t-shirts but to this day I don't think anybody really understands what we were involved in with that at all um Gazeta Della Sports are reporting that Turkey forward Yildiz continues to push for an improved contract at Juventus.

31:02However, other clubs are circulating, including Manchester United.

31:10Yildiz was a player that we were looking at from Juventus in the summer, or we were linked to in the summer. And it's a little bit like Fafana at Lyon. We've been linked to him as well. but you know you're never going to stop Man United being linked to these types of players but what have we just spent our time talking on you know we can't logically spend time or oxygen looking at Man United against

31:48Man United signing attackers or you know people like Yildiz when we're having the conversation about we've got way many way too many attackers the way we play is we use attacking fullbacks and number 10s we don't use wingers so it's very very unlikely that we're going to spot what we're going to buy those types of players if we're going to buy number 10s then well we're not because we've just got loads we've just been talking about Xerxes there I think the only area of interest for Manchester United, and I'm not saying that we don't need to look at a yielders or people like that. You could argue that we do, but we couldn't afford to buy a midfielder in the summer.

32:36That's the bottom line. We couldn't afford to do it. We were desperately trying to get Conor Gallagher on loan. We couldn't afford to do that. God knows what we were trying to do with Belaba. We ran out of money in the summer. so we're not in Europe we've got to fund a two billion pound stadium we clearly have got financial issues now there'll be loads of people saying well no no they can do this they can do that they can do this they can do that doesn't mean they will do this or they will do that so look I'd love to think that United are lining up four or five players across that squad where we do need to improve because I think we do it but I think it's in United's interests to just circulate stories about midfielders for the next nine months and then next summer just buy one midfielder and go we've done it now that you know that that's like a pin in the universe it won't fill it but I think that's the only realistic thing we're going to do and I think I'm depressing myself.

33:45I think that all we can do is just acknowledge the fact that we made a huge mistake this summer and there are no guarantees that next summer will get anywhere near the likes of Warton, Balaba or Anderson, even though some United fans think we'll buy both. I don't see where the funds for that come from. And I don't see what the attraction with Man United is going to be, because next summer, if we're not in Europe, that's two years of not being in Europe, which means it's two years of not playing well, which means it's two years of whoever else is in the race probably being far more attractive, whether that's Spurs, Newcastle, Liverpool, whatever.

34:21We have to buy a midfielder and we have to start doing well on the pitch. I think that it's a two-way street. If we want to get the good midfielder, we need to be in Europe. but to be in Europe it's going to be really difficult because we didn't get a midfielder as I say there should be an apology to Amrim there should be apology to the fans they made a huge mistake in the summer and I find it crazy that the only scrutiny is with Sir Jim Radcliffe and Ruben Amrim when I'd love to know what went on in between what if Ruben Amrim was like I really really want a midfielder and Sir Jim Radcliffe was like get a midfielder and then Barada and Wilcox and Favell messed up we don't know what happened but a mistake of huge proportion was made in the summer and I think now if you want to get Wharton or you want to get Belaber the only way I see it happening is well one where's the money coming from and two what's the pull well the money comes from Europe and the pull is Europe so somehow Ruben Amrim has got to get us into Europe with this team to get the midfielder he should have got in the summer I suppose that's That's how I would put it.

35:34Let's have a look at some of your comments before I go on to the next bit. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to go back to someone here. My fellow Americans, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1 ,776 ,000 in prizes. And one lucky winner is going to take home 1 ,000 ,000 SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's social casino.

36:16Liam says, speaking like we didn't spend over 200 million on forwards. Oh, Liam. Liam, I'm not speaking like that at all. You're typing like you're a bloody moron. What are you talking about, Liam? Liam, I'm not speaking like we didn't spend£200 million on this. Maybe you're new. Apologise. I will say you're not a moron. Maybe you're a brand new viewer who's only turned in for the last 60 seconds and you're commenting on that. That's the only thing I can understand, because we're not speaking like we haven't spent£200 million on forwards. We've completely acknowledged that. We spoke about it last night.

36:55We speak about it most shows. why did we spend£200 million on two number 10s and a striker and not buy on the midfield? Somebody still needs to apologise, Liam. Somebody still made a big mistake. It doesn't matter. We ran out of money at the end of the summer. We couldn't buy a midfielder because we'd spent it all on the attack. Somebody somewhere made a massive mistake, Liam. That's exactly what we're saying. We're talking exactly the same thing. What you're doing is, in some warped way, you're trying to defend the club and say you're talking like we didn't spend 200 million did we buy a midfielder no you're talking shit then aren't you unless you've got a comeback um anyway we'll go back to what keel was going to say what could be worse he says this club is going round in circles no vision no plan no cash no common sense see you at the weekend yeah i think that's probably the best comment you made today 100 um i think the lack of vision the lack of plan there are people out there who who genuinely want this ownership and plan to work but unfortunately there are people out there who scrutinize things and go i want to believe but what about that what about that what about that and as we were just talking with liam there yeah we did spend 200 million pounds in the summer we managed to mess that up didn't we I mean it's just so I mean I literally said this this morning yesterday morning I like Kunja I like Mbomo and I like Sesko but one of them shouldn't be here in a top midfielder should but we're a better balanced team then now who was behind that decision it probably should be known if I was Ruben Amrim and I made that call I would probably have to come out and say it publicly um I don't think he did I don't think he made that call I think he was promised things he didn't get I think they probably said don't worry we'll get we'll still get you in midfielder and then they didn't I don't know how they didn't understand they were never going to get a midfielder but look I don't know something clearly went wrong I think well I know Jack B says past 10 years midfield has been pure neglect look at Arsenal and Liverpool compared in the same period stagnant stupidity and pure incompetence well correct me if I'm wrong was it not Fabrizio who said it that um maybe it was Fabrizio maybe it was Ornstein it was somebody who said it like the week after the transfer window closed and it was words to the effect that they felt that they didn't need a midfielder and then it got instantly rebutted by the fact that we negotiated with Belaber and we tried to get conor gallagher but there was a story that came out around the time the window closed that um the board felt that we didn't need a midfielder and then it was instantly ridiculed by why were you talking to belabor then why were you talking to conor gallagher so yeah i don't know i don't i don't know maybe we look for a loan in january this is mikey well the the truth is mikey if they go for a subitsa type loan in january what does that say vision i would do it 100 would do it but what does that say about the plan you know if you're going for a loan deal in january you sort of expose the lack of planning the desperation um i understand why you might do a loan deal in january if you have a couple of injuries but if we do a loan deal in January because we basically messed up in the summary, it exposes the mistake.

40:40Nayan says stock price is surging, really surging. There's got to be something going on. I wouldn't say it's surging, mate. I really, I wouldn't say, well, look, let's see when the New York Stock Exchange opens up at two o 'clock today, if it keeps going up. Look, Ben Jacobs is on the show at two o 'clock today. I think that's a question we need to ask of him and, you know, what's happening with that but um i want to believe there's going to be a sale but i think on last night's show when we're talking about inios and the glazers moving closer towards starting building new trafford i think when that happens i just don't think a sale will happen but look what what do we know um thank you very much for that simply read a whole loving player by manager so unprofessional okay ian o 'connell's in the house hope you're doing well would it ever be the case that current owners get the planning etc over the line and ready for the new owners to build a stadium as part of the deal i mean it could be it could be but i would side on that's very optimistic because it just feels like that's too good to be true but look it's like i've bought houses in the past i haven't bought many houses i bought a house once where it wasn't why we bought the house but it was um it was a three-bedroom house and it had planning permission to build on the side of the house and when we went to look at the house we were told the planning permission's already in place with the local council we never had any intention of doing it but it was in place if you wanted to do it which i suppose to some people could be more um could make it more attractive so if you're buying old traffic if you're buying man united and then they say look the plan's ready to go as well it probably does make it more um appealing i mean it's a theory ian i'd love it to be a reality but um it's certainly a theory um dennis says um i had a look at united's chart and i will be shorting it to help it come down it's manipulated and there is no reason for it to be that high watch it go get back down to 15 mark my words says dennis yeah well we're talking about the united share price here aren't we um so i'm gonna quick look at it i mean the new york stock exchange is obviously closed at the moment um i i would agree if that's gone up from 15 to 18 and we don't need to be financial experts for this if that's gone up from$15 to$18 in the last week, which apparently it has, there is actually no reason for that.

43:23There is no logical reason for that other than a tweet from Turkey Alishek. There's been no talks between the Glazers and the UAE. Man United are not aware of this. so literally it's i mean has it does it i don't know it was um the share price is always nick pieces it was almost 18 in july the share price is all always high in the summer because of transfers and stuff it's always it's i remember with marino it was high um so yeah i mean good news tends to boost the share price so if people think the club's gonna set get sold then it boosts the share price um it's dangerous isn't it i said this last week and some people said you don't know what you're talking about and i said i'll use the words market manipulation and i'm not saying that anybody's manipulating the market but you can see how easy it is to manipulate the market and there is no reason for our share price to have gone up by$3 in a week.

44:31There's absolutely none. We're 10th in the league. We're not in Europe. There isn't a reason for it to have gone up. And I think, you know, you'd be wildly naive if you don't think it's something to do with a certain tweet, but whether there's anything behind that, I don't know. Um, 10 hours on my feet, traffic noise, everybody needs something from me. My head is spinning. I just need the world to stop for one second, but then I get home, shoes off, phone out, and I open Modo Casino. Hundreds of slots, classic table games. It's my instant reset. The variety I want in the quiet I need. Modo Casino, the social casino board.

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45:22Who do you think starts at the weekend, says Nate. that's the preview show tonight we'll be live at eight o 'clock got ben jacobs on the show at two o 'clock so we'll get into all the latest details on what's going on with share prices and everything like that and then i'm live with you at eight o 'clock as well for the preview show um where we can talk more about it look i'm i'm i think that in many ways this this international break has been a little bit like the summer in ways without transfers. I think the conversation has been... I think when there aren't games, there's this opportunity for positive people to be overly positive and negative people to be overly negative.

46:11And we need these events to take these theories and prove them right or wrong. So some people really think that, yeah, we were so good against Sunderland. We're back. We're going to bounce back. And, you know, everything's going to be great. And we're going to do really, really well. And then there's other people going, it's Sunderland. We were shit against Brentford the week before. The next bad result's around the corner. Amram needs to go. And then there are other different niches around all that. We need this game at the weekend. We need the Brighton game. We need these next four games that they couldn't be constructed in a better way.

46:48I don't, it could be harder, but I don't think, if we were playing Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City, I don't think you learn anything out of that because they're all better than us. I think if you're playing Burnley, Leeds, Sunderland and, I don't know, Everton, do you really learn a lot out of that if you win a few? These next four games are perfect. Three of them are away, one of them's at home, two of them are Spurs and Liverpool, two of them are Forest and Brighton. You should be, if you're a team on the up, you should come out of those four games, 12 points. You should come out with somewhere between seven and 10.

47:24If you're on the up, if you're on the way back down again, you're going to come out with five or below. If you're just around the middle, you're going to get somewhere between six and eight. So I think it's going to be very interesting over the next four games. And I'm ready for it because conversations run dry in my mind when it's just based on theory. And I'm a little bit bored of theory around, oh, you know, United are back and, you know, United are finished. And I think the evidence will happen, which is why I think it's so important to talk about failings in the summer. That are going to cause us problems this season if things go badly, because I think they are factors.

48:08When you look at, I mean, I don't want to rub salt in the wound, but if we had bought, and it's hard to know who, if we had bought Belayba and he had done really well, I think the mindset would probably still be let's pay Belayba and Maynu. I still think that Manu thing would be going on, but maybe we'd be better. Maybe we'd be feeling more optimistic. And that's a shame. But the reality is we are where we are. And if bad results come, people will focus in on that. I will focus in on that. So I think that I have confidence about the Liverpool game because I think time and time again, we've seen Man United get written off in these types of games.

48:55and I've seen every Liverpool game and there's a vulnerability there. And we can defend well. And if we can defend well, we've got a great chance of at least a point. So I think that could be good. Then you've got Brighton at home and you could have some real confidence from that. Get a result there. You go to Forest away. They're not that good this season. And then suddenly Spurs becomes a bonus. Flip side, you go to Liverpool, they bounce back and they destroy us. Brighton come and they're confident and get a result. and then we're in big shit so it's it's in the balance and i i'm ready i'm ready for it i'm ready for it i think it's been a it's felt like a long transfer window this one this is the worst one for me island boy says freightliner freightliner freightliner being forced to sell land by the government what the glazes wanted since 2016 they could not do it until they got to jim to do it before them yeah um and robert mccormack says more chance of jazim being real than a sale yeah i i think i think i do agree with robert on this one i think uh and i agree i agree with island boy as well the the reality is that this um

50:12this regeneration project has been in the works since 2016. Sir Jim Radcliffe was nowhere near Man United at that point. This is a glazer project that they needed somebody with governmental support to push through. And Sir Jim Radcliffe has been the vehicle for them to do that. It's a marriage made in heaven to make a lot of money, as we know. um gaz says i think we'll draw at best i'd take a draw i'd take a draw at anfield um i don't think we're at the point of the season where a where a point's going to cost us too much if we go and beat brighton um i wouldn't be surprised if it was a draw myself but we we will talk all about that um at eight o 'clock um take your minds back before the city game we thought the same remembers as and we get but you know what that was straight after an international break that was an away game it's difficult the the stats don't lie it's not very good to go away from home after the international break um but but but but on the other side of the thing liverpool have just lost three games in a row and they've had very little time on the training ground because it's the international break so there'll still be uncertainty there and we did play well at the etihad for 20 minutes it was you know if bruno hadn't lost foden that game could have gone very very differently we were in the game it was a very good 20 minutes for us and a defensive error that's the problem at Anfield is how how how long can we keep them out if we give them a goal you know what happens when the heads drop we've got to stay in that game so I'm previewing the game here I'm previewing the game um

51:57thanks everyone for watching uh just a question there uh new christmas jump yeah let me just get that so it's available for pre-order now it's literally on the website from about half an hour ago get yours now uh pre-order from uh the website united stand shopify check it out there when they're gone, they're gone, they're knitted. Thanks everyone for watching. We're back at two o 'clock with Ben Jacobs. Don't miss that. And I'm back with you at eight o 'clock for the preview. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. I'll speak to you on the next one. Here's golf legend, John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces.

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