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0:32Hello, everybody. Good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news. I forgot to put my microphone on. I'm a bloody amateur. Lots to get into this morning. Basically, the two big contrasts of being a Man United fan at the moment. You've got Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes saying that Ruben Amirim is on the board, on the verge of the sack. And then you've got Bruno Fernandes in a very compelling interview talking about time and how it's unfair that you know you win a game and you're going to win the league and you lose a game and everything's terrible so you know i think it really does probably encapsulate two extremes in the fan base which we'll get into um and there's probably something in between as well but look this is what oh we've also got some transfer news around xerxi a little bit around wharton and some pretty big updates around the new stadium as well so lots to get into let's start off with what nicky butts has had to say though because uh this is you know very very blunt um oh just realized i have got the christmas jumper on today look at that ah look at that's a good view actually it's a good view um around the back there we go you can see around the back can we get that yeah there's a sign on the back there yeah pre-order available for pre-order links in the description united stand shopify the best one we've ever done can't wait for christmas In fact, I might just wear it every day now and be looked at like a weirdo.

1:52But we do shit worldwide. This is what Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt had to say. Nicky Butt said about Ruben Amirim and, you know, whether he's going to get time or whether he's going to be sacked. He says, look, if me and Scholes, he were in charge, we'd say, right, our job's on the line here and we've got to get some wins somehow. And it's not working, the system. So my thought would be, let's go and get two or three results anyway. way we can but he's gone so far now that he can't go back he's made a rod for his own back um does he think he can turn it around does he want to go back to portugal or spain or another club i don't know the answer but it's looking to me like it's gonna happen sooner or later in relation to the sack the manager seems to be obsessed with playing this way and if he keeps it up and does not win games he won't have a chance to do it because he's gonna be gone it's a fact and Scholes he said um if you don't win games you will lose you but you will lose your job it's getting to that point now so look you know honestly I think that respect probably will go out the window it is the United Stand community chat but that is not an opinion that's not far out you know it's not like some of you don't have that opinion you've basically got Nicky Buck, Paul Scholes, legend to the club saying that they don't like the system they don't like the manager's stubbornness he's not getting the results and he's going to get the sack are they wrong are they wrong i mean i feel like i feel like that that on the eve of a big game against liverpool i do sort of subscribe to the view that we should be positive until there's a reason to be negative um having said that you can't police opinion and some people have checked out anyway some people just think it's an inevitability that he's going to get the sack and you can't disrespect that even though i don't agree with that i think we should be buzzing excited and expecting a performance tomorrow and if we get a performance tomorrow then all these negative opinions will not matter um i saw a comment from bruno fernandez about one matter contacting him about his goal at one field and uh bruno fernandez basically saying yeah we want to be able to do a result like that and live off it for years as well and you know that's what can happen tomorrow and that can change opinions you know you go to liverpool and get a result you can go to anywhere and get results so i think that you know but people some people have made their mind up some people made their mind up and to be honest with you before people start having to go at nicky book and i actually thought um one of the things he said was absolutely spot on he's very angry with the way the club's being run in the academy and he said i'm sick to death of hearing people at man united's academy saying it's not about winning it's about the experience it's fucking about winning because if you've never won anything from 13 all the way up how you expected to go and win at the first team you've got to develop winners because if you don't you can't play for a big club like manchester united and that's the biggest thing i've noticed in the academy over the last so many years so look i i like nicky buck because he worked at the club and he speaks with a lot of sense i don't think you can just sweep under the carpet and say oh he's just negative i think he's somebody that worked in the club, basically left the club because he got fed up of it and has more of an insight than we do to the mentality at that football club.

5:08I've never heard that before. I've never heard that as an academy, we don't prioritize winning. We prioritize developing individuals. There are a lot of academies that do this. I've got firsthand knowledge of academies that do this and I tear my hair out at it. They'll turn up at a tournament. They'll take 22 players. they'll mix and match all the way through the tournament they won't get through the group stage and then it will just be yeah but we're not it's not about the winning it's about you know it's about the taking part or it's about developing players and i'm like fuck off i agree with nicky but i completely agree and if i didn't realize that man united had that mentality in their academy and if they do that's shocking it's absolutely shocking but it's not actually that unique as i say i've experienced it i'm sure some of you have experienced it some academies don't prioritize winning they just don't prioritize winning they just think ultimately it's about preparing the right players to see if they can make it to the first team but some of these players then get really frustrated because they're like they come off the pitch and they're disappointed because they've lost and then the coaches are going yeah but that's not what we're looking to do here but it's not about winning this game it's about you know when you're 18 19 can you get in the first team and nicky but it's right because when they're 18 19 they've got no experience of winning you're creating people.

6:25I just think in life, in any stage of life, if you accept losing, you create a different mentality. If you're meant to get up at seven o 'clock every morning and then your mum and dad come in and go, have a lie until half seven, it's absolutely fine. You won't get used to getting up at seven o 'clock in the morning. And that's not for adults. I don't live with mum and dad. But what I'm saying is, is like discipline winning is a habit and it's surprising. So I agree with Nicky on that. So I can't go, oh, I don't agree with Nicky, but on what he says about the manager when he just made a great point about our academy.

6:56We're so desperate for our academy to come to fruition and deliver players for us. And he's just blown the bloody doors off that we don't prioritize winning. I mean, that's absolutely shocking. But as I say, I've experienced it. I don't understand it. It's almost like the school sports day thing that annoys me, where a lot of schools now on sports day, they don't give a prize out for first prize because everybody's a winner. Bollocks. You're not a winner. If you come first place, you're a winner. You're not a winner if you came last place. You're crap at running or you fell over. You know, when you're 18 and you go for a job and someone else gets at you, you don't get the job as well because life ain't fair, motherfucker.

7:33So, you know, I think that I think Nicky Butts absolutely spot on in relation to that. And it's quite concerning that our academy is not prioritizing winning. Participation trophies, says Lee Berman. But bringing it back to what they said about the manager, the sack is coming, say Nicky Butts and Paul Squirrels. Do you agree with that? because then you've got Bruno Fernandes' interview, which I thought was very, very, very interesting. He said, look, playing for the club is massive, but at the same time, it's a big privilege. So if I'm playing in the midfield, it doesn't change my position, but it's a privilege to play for this football club.

8:05He says, any manager who comes in here will be one game away from crisis. But at this club, it's always like that. If you win a game, it's like you're going to win the league. If you lose a game, it looks like there's a cloud over the club that won't go away anymore. So basically what Bruno is saying there is that our fan base and the media are a bunch of lip-locked. He says, sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture. And obviously from the club side, they need to do that. As a player and a group of players, we believe that the manager can help this club get back to where it belongs. And this was his reaction to what, you know, what Sir Jim Radcliffe had basically said.

8:42Because he said, if Sir Jim Radcliffe shares the player's opinion, namely that the manager is the right person for this role, then it's a good thing to have two groups of people who share the same view now some people are going to say that's all talk that's all talk you know you can't you can't you can't you know man united very good at talking the talk that's all talk uh the owner and the players are behind the manager well why 10th in the league then why did you finish 15th results will dictate what happens um but i found it interesting that you know you've got like nicky book paul scrolls maybe some of you saying it's inevitable he's going to get the sack he's too stubborn he's not the right guy for manchester united there's no adaptability it's his way his way his way his way and that's just not going to work um it's inevitable he's going to get the sack and you've got sir jim radcliffe the owner of the football club brinney fernandez the captain of the football club saying you know we're aligned you know we believe this is the guy and we've got to be patient and we believe we will we will get back to where we need to be with ruben amram and that's the two contrasts in the fan base at the moment you pick your side you make your choice um but i thought it was interesting what bruno said about how any manager who comes here is one match away from a crisis and the club is always going to be like that if you win a match you're going to win the league if you lose a match it feels like storm is in the club um in this club every manager is under pressure if they get bad result and our manager is no exception but he's very well prepared for it and he knows what a huge challenge it is um my honest opinion on that is that i think he's right I think Bruno Fernandes is right um I think off the pick he speaks like a captain I know he doesn't behave like it on the pitch I mean I think it was Nicky Buck seven months ago or so who famously said Bruno Fernandes wouldn't last a minute under Sir Alex Ferguson the way he behaves on the pitch but this is what we are this is where we are we don't have that anymore which is why where we are in reality is not there um but I think Bruno is correct I think he does speak well off the pitch.

10:36And I think he is correct in the sense that, you know, if we win a game, we are going to win the league. And if we lose a game, it's a crisis. We can't deny that. I can't deny that. You know that. We do the match reactions. We do the watch alongs. I mean, I've been there half time and people are saying, you know, Jose out, Oli out, and then we're going win the game. So it's not even, it's not, sometimes it's not even the game. Sometimes it's our time. so that's that's the world that's the tick-tock generation that's the world we live in now it's instant gratification isn't it so look i think there is an element of truth in the fact that you know one loss and it's a crisis and one win and it's you know you're going to win the league look at this season we've lost two games newcastle lost 12 last year so how many games have we played seven we've lost two games in seven seven into 38 is five and a half and we've lost two games in seven so times that by five and a half that's 11 losses here's golf legend john daly hell yeah these wins are piling up faster than my divorces i only spent on moto america's social casino you know i've won a couple of majors and on moto i've won majors grand and epic jackpots on their classic vega slots with huge huge bonus rounds moto casino adds new games and awards players free coins every single day.

11:55Grip it and spend it on Moto Casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino. What we're prohibited, no purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino, America's social casino. We're actually on track to lose less games than Newcastle when you think about it. I mean, that's a head mess, isn't it? But Newcastle lost 12 games last season and they finished fifth. We've lost two games in our first seven. If you multiply that into 38, that's 11 losses. so we could still finish fit in this form we are at the moment. The problem is we're 10th, but you know what I mean.

12:31I think it's very difficult. You come with a lot of baggage at Manchester United. Whether you're a new manager with a new vision, you come with a lot of baggage. Sir Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Eric Ten Hag, the Glazers, players that are light switch players. There's a multitude of negative influences on the fan base. I think some people blame the fan base and go, well it's the fan base's fault yeah okay so if you're if you're somebody that's grown up in you know trauma every bloody week there's something going wrong and that impacts your personality is that your fault so why do man united fans get blamed for being toxic they are literally shat on from a great height multiple times a season and they don't have any control over that so let's not pretend that man united fans drive the negativity around manchester united it makes me laugh that people insist that we need to have a more positive mindset.

13:24We need to be more positive. There's so much negativity out there and we need to be more positive. What you're saying is you need to shove your head up your ass and ignore reality because there's nothing to be positive about. We're in ridiculous debt. We've fallen so hard. We've broken every bone of this football club on the tumble down the mountain. There doesn't seem to be a way back because we haven't healed yet. And we're meant to sit there at the bottom of the bottom of the mountain with everything broken apart from our minds and go, it's fine. It's absolutely fine. And the reality is somebody pushed us down the mountain as well, but don't moan about it.

13:59It's our fault, you know? And it makes me laugh. It makes me laugh that we can't actually moan about a situation we didn't contribute to where we've basically been forcefully pushed down a mountain and broken every bloody bone on the way down and we're meant to go we're the problem come on come on so i think that yeah look in the balance of what nicky but and paul scrolls are saying and what bruno fernandez is saying i probably sit in the middle i can see both sides i agree with bruno fernandez that every win we're going to win the league and every loss is time for a crisis but i also agree with nicky but especially on the youth academy i mean that's that's embarrassing but i also agree with him that the stubbornness of Amarim seems to be a trajectory towards the sack based on the last 10 years, Jose, Ten Hag, everybody.

14:46So I agree with both sides, but I choose a different path of there is a way back for Amarim and there is a way for him to be sacked. And I choose to be optimistic and hopeful that he can survive and we can get better because I think sacking managers hasn't necessarily worked but I'm also realistic to the point that if he keeps losing games it becomes untenable so I'm sort of I'm not on the fence I want him to do well I'm hammer him in but I'm also not going to sit here and say oh it's definitely going to work out because that would make me an idiot I think there's a very big chance he'll get sacked but I also hope he won't and that this talk of three years and getting better and he's the right guy becomes true I don't believe in the system argument that nicky butts talking about either i don't that's you know i think in life you can agree with your mates your family members but you can also disagree i don't have to agree with everything they say i don't agree with the system i don't agree with that conversation at all in fact i saw um you know forget what i think for a moment i saw um i saw a comment from the he's done an interview as well and basically said in modern football if you play a back four almost all teams play by building with three defenders and we do often defend with four defenders it's easy to say the system this the system that but in the end it's always adaptable in the game there's no situation where the system is always the same in the game in that way of being flexible and in the structure we have to find a way to get everything right and make everything happen so basically the lit saying look at the end of the day i think it comes down to us i've been at clubs where the history is enormous all four are among the top teams in champions league history with the most points what also happens is if the history is too big the club also expects you to be as the history is and this is a bigger pressure than when you're at a club where maybe there's less less history and you have to create history and i think that's just a very honest um assessment of being at manchester united from delitz um but that's what that was going to be my other point Like where I think Nicky Butt comes from is a place of being at a football club with a history, with an expectation and succeeding.

16:59You know, when Nicky Butt was coming through at Manchester United as a kid, was the expectation any different? Absolutely not. He would have been coming through in the early 90s, the late 80s when we hadn't won a league title in many years. The pressure would have been huge. Winning was important. He worked his way through, like class of 92, and he won things. And that mentality was a demand to be the best. And he probably looks at Man United now and goes, I don't recognize this football club. I don't recognize it in the youth. They're not even being told to win. And in the first team, they're not winning.

17:31And they probably look at it and go, it's just so fucking logical. And you probably want people like Nicky Butt in Manchester United. And it's a shame he's not there anymore because, yeah, Darren Fletcher was decent. but Nicky Butt is 10 times the player Darren Fletcher was with 10 times the mentality. So you want people like Nicky Butt in. And when he's swearing and saying the club is so frustrating from top to bottom, you want those sort of people in the football club because they get it. They do get it. And I think that whilst it can be a bit of an onslaught of negativity, especially before a game against Liverpool where we've just beaten Sunderland and if we win tomorrow, everything's rosy again, I still think fundamentally, even if we win tomorrow, most of us would go we'll be back here you know it'll be a temporary holiday it's like going on holiday in it for a couple of weeks great great great but we will be back here even if we beat liverpool tomorrow we'll be back moaning at some point in the next six weeks because that's the roller coaster of united and i think maybe what nicky but's talking about is the whole big thing like regardless of a result at liverpool we've done it before but we end up back here and i think that conversation contrasts maybe to what does bruno fernandez know about success at manchester united what does the jim radcliffe know about success at manchester united what does ruben anrim know about success at manchester united when you break it down we're listening to three people with no history of success at united telling us it's going to take time and they've never done it at this football club they've got no concept of what it takes to win a premier league at manchester United, what it takes to be in the Champions League every year at Manchester United.

19:06So these people are there going, every win, we're going to win the league. Every loss, you know, it's a crisis. But what's the pathway out of that? You know, I agree. Every win, we're going to win the league. Every loss, we're going to get relegated. But everybody knows that. It's not profound. It's true, but it's not profound. But what is your pathway out? Because when Sir Jim Madcliffe says it's not a light switch well you've never fucking won anything in football um and when bruno fernandez says yeah we're aligned with the owner in backing this manager what do you know about winning league titles at manchester united so i think sometimes the negativity swamps the positivity and vice versa which is why i sit in the middle of that but they both make good points the reality is to stop the manager being sacked the players need to start winning consistently and to stop and for Amorim to get the sack, we need to keep losing.

20:00And we will find out what's going to happen very, very soon, won't we? Probably tomorrow. He needs results to survive, says Fenke. But I found it very interesting, very interesting, and it probably would have been more suitable for an eight-a-prop show, to be honest with you. But the contrast of where we are, and there should be no guilt attached to that. I mean, God, you know, I can see the comments now. I see what the comments will be like when, you know, people who aren't watching live dropped their comments but the cold harsh truth is you can't argue with either side you can because that's life but i think he's on a trajectory to get the sack because he's too stubborn and the results aren't good enough and the system's not working i think if we give him time we will get better because he's got the backing of the players and if the board back him as well we'll gradually get better life people is it not exciting are you not entertained you know let's see what happens I knew someone would say, what do you think is going to happen?

20:56I think the next four games define, really. If we can go to Liverpool tomorrow and get a result, I think it gives us the confidence to go to Forest and Spurs and get a result. If we lose tomorrow, I think it becomes, you know, it's not the end of Amrim, but it sort of throws you back into that. Three losses already. Look, two losses from eight. is nowhere near as bad as three losses from eight is it and i know it's only one number but three losses from eight is nearly losing half your games again isn't it so i think i'm massively excited tomorrow and i think it's going to be very very interesting uh how it pans out um let's go through some other stuff i want to get into your comments as well but i want to just bring in i have to laugh at this uh pat pat pat pat so uh aljandro ganacho the game at manchester united if we play 11 against 11, I feel we would be on top.

21:52Mate, keep talking about Man United. I love it. I love it. You're just another ex who's bitter because you got dumped. Keep talking about Man United. 11 against 11, maybe Chelsea would have got a result, but you know where you would have been? Sat on the bench, pal, because that's where you were. You weren't involved. He didn't want you. he didn't want you involved you were on the bench mate so you try and claim your new club's victories that didn't happen to one man united you sat on the bench keep this football club out your mouth and focus on yourself because you won't be able to you won't be able to um and i find it funny that you know we've got huge problems ourselves and these ex-players who are going out on somewhere else can't keep our football club out of their mouth very very funny um but i'm actually doing a chelsea watch on at lunchtime you know what if you watch my fc's 26 career mode on thursday um that was a crazy chelsea moment i think still won the game actually so get in the bin but um yeah i'll probably just set ganache up to score a hat trick now and that's on me 10 hours on my feet traffic noise everybody needs something from me my head is spinning i just need the world to stop for one second but then i get home shoes off phone out and I open Modo Casino.

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23:54I think that Marcus Rashford is very, very happy at Barcelona at the moment. and if he's looking to look I think if Marcus Rashford's on 300 grand a week at Man United and he's unhappy he ain't never gonna do anything about that because it's the money isn't it the money why should I take a pay cut why should I take a pay cut you go somewhere you're happy and you're not the top star of the team you know you're being humble I mean Barcelona are bigger than Rashford there are players in that team that are better than Rashford I imagine he's at Barcelona working his ass off because he ain't the top player there and now he's like this is a good place to be this is a great place to be the weather the club champions league title race I want to be here I'm hungry again I think it's a good sign that he's so hungry and he's so happy that he'd be willing to take a pay cut um and this is you know great news so hopefully it will continue um and I think sometimes there are positives and I think that is a positive news this is exactly what I wanted to happen.

24:56I wanted him to go. I wanted him to go and be happy somewhere. And I wanted him to go somewhere that they wanted him. So it ticks all the boxes for us and finally, we can close the chapter on something that maybe should have been closed a long time ago. But that's not on Rashford, by the way. There are so many players at this football club. And I did that video yesterday about what Paul Scholes said about Casemiro, Maguire, and Luke Shaw. He is right, by the way. Physically, they're not strong enough for the Premier League. And we're still relying on those types of players, which is why sometimes you'll watch 10 minutes against teams like Brentford or Crystal Palace and you'll watch United again absolutely run ragged.

25:34You know what I mean when we're getting run ragged, you know, players are all out of position, it's a mess. A lot of that doesn't come down to light switch players. A lot of that comes down to physicality, not being strong enough. They're not physically at that level anymore and we're still relying on them so this we've got to start moving players on um a little bit about xerxi a little bit about xerxi here coming in from fabrizio romano basically saying that west ham have shown interesting xerxi but it's nothing as advanced as doing a deal yet xerxi wants to fight for his place at manchester united he's not happy with his current lack of game time but it doesn't mean he's unhappy at the club or pushing for a move if however his situation doesn't improve come january then exploring a move away could be a possibility so this is coming in from Fabrizio Romano in relation to Xerxi um it's been a long two weeks I just want to say hallelujah football is back I mean god that just makes me realize how long this international break has been and I think when we're in the international break we feel really sad we should feel really happy today that football back um because i remember on the sunday after we played sunderland so two weeks ago which feels like two years ago i said i spoke about maynew and i said there's another story gonna drop early this week and it was xerxi so that was two weeks ago we were talking about xerxi and maynew potentially looking to go and knock on the door for january obviously the middle of october is too early to do that because if sesco kunya and burmo all get injured i think zerksy's knocking on the door of the first team so things can change between now and january however look at the situation right does zerksy get game time tomorrow i can't see it i think kunya is going to be on the bench so he will come on i can't see zerksy getting minutes tomorrow that's one of four games before the next international break gone.

27:37Brighton at home. I mean, we've basically got four cup finals, 90 minutes. Where does Xerxes get game time? If you had Carabao Cup, if we were still in the Carabao Cup or we were in the Europa League, oh, he's going to get game time. Of course, he's going to get game time. But four games before the next international break, which takes us to the end of November, I can't see him getting half an hour across those four games. I just can't see him get in half an hour of football i might be wrong but even if he gets half an hour he's not going to turn it into a start is he he he is so far off the third i think mainu's closer to the first team and i'm not convinced mainly he's going to get much game time but xerxi is in a terrible position you know you've got sesko kunya and burmo mount all ahead of you that's four and then you've got amad who can play at 10 if someone plays at right wing back so that's five and possibly bruno could be pushed in there so that's six so look completely agree with Xerxi fight for your place not pushing to leave it's the middle of October but the problem is it's going to be the start of January before you know it and how many minutes has he played for Man United in the Premier League so far I don't know I'd say it's less than an hour might not even be half an hour do you really think by the end of December he'll have played much more is this there's just not look there's just not a path it's like having five cars on your drive you know you might don't you might drive two of them you might drive three of them it's like having five cars on your drive and the fifth car isn't as good as the other four you're probably not going to drive it even if you wake up on a Friday and think you are if the other four cars are a better drive you're not going to use it and it doesn't mean that Xerxes is not a nice car but you could sort of see this happening the only thing I think with United is that Amarin probably is gone if anything happens to Sesco I can use him up front and also Mason Mount's massively unreliable so you know for me as a manager I'm always going to go I want as many options as possible um and then the season kicks in and then you hit January and you go yeah I don't need you so I think I think he will end up I think he will end up going but you know I think it's a shame I think it's a real shame I I sort of look back to the um uh i look back to the u.s tour and i think that there was a real appetite from a lot of people to see um zirksy getting involved and i thought he finished the season very very well last season but if there's no pathway to the team there's no pathway to the team uh just going through some of your comments let me just have a sip of me a drink

30:21oh um anyway mark look at the league table we're literally in the middle five points off relegation and five points off the champions league everyone needs to reserve judgment spot on spoke about this on the international break rohan so welcome back if you're one of those who take the international break off the league table reads we're five points off fourth from bottom so one off relegation five points down and then we're five points off first place one off the top five points up so the next four games are pivotal every game for man united to cup final bruno is right but i think this season we said it before the season started we've got 38 cup finals i mean the only other games we're playing is the fa cup and that's not till january so every game is a cup final for man united it's very disappointing that we didn't get that memo for brentford or man city but every game's a bloody cup final i don't i don't understand it you know i've played the game i've coached the game you know you're paid professionals you wake up in the morning you've got no other job other than to put your tracksuit on and go and train a carrington you're building up for these games most of love playing football i'd be going through it in my head on the way you know these are man united players what is it that makes you turn the switch off like how is the switch not on like every single game is a cut game for us i understand it you know if you've played thursday night football in bloody i don't know

31:57Baku and then you're coming back to play Sunderland on a Sunday afternoon at Old Trafford mentally that's difficult, I get it hopefully we can get a win, I'm tired this and the other, we've got other priorities but it's one game a week it's the Premier League, we should be turning up and you're absolutely right, Rohath if we can win three of our next four and put ourselves into the top six next international break we're in a very different position aren't we if we don't and we start dropping into the bottom half you know i think the conversation will continue thoughts on jim thwaites as a midfield prospect is andy hart i think lacy thwaites ob even heaven you know there are other players as well we've got some good youth players but what i don't want to see is people using these names as as lifesavers like oh if we if we play thwaites then you know we're gonna win the league like we've never done that it's never happened it's never happened ryan giggs david beckham um ronaldo all these players were nurtured and i know we brought ronaldo in but he was a kid these were nurtured players we didn't drop them into a shit team and become good so yeah great academy players i want to see them coming through.

33:17Some of them are very exciting. But look at what we've done to our academy players in the last five years. Look at what we're doing to Mainu now. We need to provide the platform. I don't know whether we have the platform for that at the moment. We're talking about a roller coaster team, a light switch team. Is it right to throw a kid into that? And that's my problem. I think if you are Mikel Arteta, you can put a 15-year-old on the wing at Anfield because you've got a very good team around them and you've got the right mentality around them would we put a 15 year old on the wing tomorrow no here's golf legend john daly hell yeah these wins are piling up faster than my divorces i only spent on moto america's social casino you know i've won a couple of majors and on moto i've won majors grand and epic jackpots on their classic vega slots with huge huge bonus rounds moto casino adds new games and awards players free coins every single day grip it and spend it on moto casino download the moto casino app today moto casino is the social casino board were prohibited.

34:17No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino. America's Social Casino. And that's what, you know, that's a different way of looking at Manchester United when it comes to youth development. We're all about the youth as a fan base, as a club. Arsenal a few weeks ago, when they were 1-0 down, bring on a 15-year-old. I think he did come on at Anfield, didn't he? I'm sure he did. He definitely played the week before anyway, but I think he came on at Anfield. I mean, I'm not a bloody Arsenal fan, but I think he did. They're throwing a 15-year-old in, in the last 10 minutes at Anfield when they're 1-0 down.

34:52Because win or lose, Arsenal have a structure. They have a strategy. They have a plan. They have a team of leaders. They have a consistency. There's no way we could throw in one of our youth players tomorrow. Absolutely not, because we just don't have that. And I think that's very important. That's not about a checkbook. That's not about where you are in the league. That's about where we are as a football club. Can we play a 16-year-old at the moment in that team? I think it would be a bloody nightmare for them. But I think Arsenal could. I think Liverpool can. And that's sometimes something that doesn't get discussed.

35:23That's not a checkbook. Like I say, that's on the players. That's on the manager. That's on the owners. That's the feel of the place. I don't think we look after young players at the moment. I don't think we have an environment to develop young players at the moment. And that reflects on a lot of mistakes that need to be rectified. People are going to start to provide for these young players because Maynou should not be sat on the bench behind Casemiro and Bruno, but he is. And he's not the only one. Morning, Mark. We've lost three, not two. Wonder how it will look in December. Hope the players don't get too comfortable with...

36:00Oh, we were lost to Arsenal, didn't we? Artek. A lot of people were saying that it's three, not two. So yeah, yeah, yeah. okay that changes the story slightly because we've lost three from seven and we lose tomorrow that's four from eight we've lost half our games also newcastle lost 12 games in 38 last year and finished fifth we've lost three in seven so seven into 38 is basically five and a half yeah that goes up to freaking out so if we if we carry on with three losses every seven till the end of the season we will lose 17 games it's amazing how one extra loss can cause a problem isn't it but um sort of the five and a half losses on 11 isn't it so it's about 17 games like i said um yeah okay fair point fair point but we have played the top four in the first eight um blast thank you very much for becoming a member you're an absolute oh gifting a membership blast thank very much i don't care about the opinions of our owners but i still listen but i will listen to it And if Radcliffe says three years, isn't Nicky Butt's opinion irrelevant?

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37:14I think Nicky Butt's opinion is worth way more than Jim Radcliffe's when it comes to Manchester United Football Club, so I don't think it's irrelevant. Flip side of the coin, Jim Radcliffe owns the football club with the Glazers and Nicky Butt doesn't. So I think the lesson is, you know, unfortunately, ultimately i i'd rather listen to nicky book than sir jim radcliffe but sir jim radcliffe has more power which is why i'd look to see a change of ownership i suppose what's the point of the olympics says wesley i don't get the context i'm sure that was an old comment champions league versus world cup what's better says rajaf don't really care um bring back mufc mpb would massively appreciate everyone sharing score predictions for tomorrow says mufc mpb i thought you were already back mate mufc mpb was a was a massive account on x but i thought you were mu mufc you're getting a big shout out now muf mufc mpb2 um you're still there i don't know i don't know i don't know why they took your account off you mate i don't know but no idea two years of being a member appreciate your work says david thanks very much pal appreciate that uh let me just go make sure i've covered everything i wanted to cover off in the morning show um what's the plan for the rest of the day eight o 'clock show tonight saturday night i've got two watch-alongs on that's football um chelsea at forest at 12 15 and fulham at home to arson at 5 30 yeah just uh yeah look great to have football back but also looking forward to um the um the game's enough.

38:50I'll tell you what, Bruno Fernandes receiving the Player of the Month award for last month still baffles me. Absolutely got no idea how he got Player of the Month. How did he get Player of the Month for September? I mean, I just don't get it. I do not get how Bruno Fernandes got Player of the Month. It's just, it's mad. Absolutely mad. And it should get called out because he's been crap this season. He's had one or two good games, but he's been crap and he still wins. Who votes for that? Is that fans voting for that or is that the club who decide that? I mean, that's just crazy to me. Did we not play Man City in September?

39:33Was that not the game where he cost us the first goal and then blamed the youngster? Like, I don't know how he won that. Brentford was September as well, wasn't it? Or was Brentford October? but no, Brentford must have been Sex Ember as well. I mean, who should it have been? Mark De Litt, Embermo. You know, there's probably others. I mean, what I'm saying is it shouldn't have been bloody Bruno. I don't know who, I don't, Savage says probably because he created the most chances in the league. Yeah, fuck. I couldn't give a shit about most chances created in the league. I've said, honestly, I'd love Bruno to play as a number 10.

40:14I still think he's one of the best players in the league in that position. I'm not his biggest fan in the midfield and he maybe doesn't want to play there himself. So we have to be fair about that. I don't rate him as a captain anymore. I think it's a problem. I don't rate him as a midfielder. And if he's going to be in that role, I would sell him. If he's going to play as a number 10, I wouldn't. Some people can't deal with that because they just want to go, oh, you're a hater. Yeah, you're thick. You're not, because you don't listen to the context. But what I will say is that there's just no way way that he should have won player of the month last year last month absolutely no way at all not not at all and it doesn't make any sense and you know we've already done the video on most chances created we did it about two years ago i analyzed all the chances that bruno creates because i can do it on y scout shows you every little clip and a lot of them are a pass to somebody who shoots from 30 yards and that's a chance created i can stand on the halfway line i can pass it five yards a simple pass they can run forward and shoot 40 yards and that's a chance created so um i don't always think that that i'm not a massive fan of stats anyway but he shouldn't have won player of the month in january it's a fucking joke and to be stood there smiling with that award he was shit against brent what was that what was that got me going now

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41:49september september three games we played three games in september right three one against brentford he was absolutely shit and missed the penalty. Chelsea, he played well against Chelsea, fair play, he did play well against Chelsea. Man City, shit. He played shit in two of the three games and he gets player of the month. Now, I'm not saying somebody played well in all three, but you can definitely think of three or four players that deserved it more than Ian. Well, I'm calling that out, that's bollocks. Who voted for that? Was that fan voted for? And people say player FC's dying. I mean come on I like Bruno but he shouldn't be winning player of the month I'll give it to Dele Dele or Mbemo by a long long way Dele's been our best player this season and probably Mbemo they've been our best two players this season um anyway I um Edmundo says finally you've agreed that he's not captain quality I've backed Bruno as captain I probably still back him as captain because it's about is he the best captain we've got I always said i don't think he's a great captain but he's the best captain we've got because we don't have enough leaders i actually think now that his captain style is probably not conducive to what we need i don't think when you're in a team lacking confidence you need a captain running around being petulant throwing his hands in the air i think you need somebody that's a little bit calmer and a little bit more you know vocal but you know leads by example so i don't know whether we've got someone like that but i would argue that maybe maybe someone like delit should be someone that you're utilizing more um in the longer term i think people like embermo and could do it as well so you know i think martinez could do it if he stayed fit um anyway thank you very much for champa says what's happening with your kitchen well hopefully it's coming towards an end because they're working on it today and i don't normally work on a saturday so hopefully it's coming towards an end um but as soon as it's ready i'll do a live show from there because i feel like we've all been part of this journey um um rogy said what's this now more negativity did anyone listen to what rags have said well you clearly didn't listen to what we were spoken about um rogy i'll leave you with this in life around manchester united there are people that don't like what's going on and and will say it and then there's people like you that will just be ultra-positive and that's absolutely fine but rogy don't tell us that fans the problem don't tell us that fans moaning is the problem tell me what one man united fan did to put man united in this situation effectively we were at the top of the mountain rogy and the glazers pushed us down it and we broke every single bone on the on in the body we're lying at the bottom of the mountain in.

44:44Nobody will come and help us. And you want us to go, it's all fine. Leave them alone. Even though they pushed us down and caused all the damage, leave them alone. I'm sorry, mate. Some people aren't going to accept that. You might. That's fine. Let people have their own opinions. You might think we're in a good position to bounce back. That's great. I'd love to know how you're going to get on that trampoline with broken legs. But look, you know what? Maybe you've got miracle hands the point is there's no reason to be ultra positive because Jim Radcliffe says so and as actually there's no reason to be ultra negative because we've got a chance tomorrow against Liverpool sometimes it's in between isn't it take care of your Michael Oliver's referee tomorrow yeah look hopefully it won't come down to the referee hopefully we'll turn up I think we'll lose still but there's a little bit of jinx around that there's a little bit of you know reverse psychology around that because if we turn up and liverpool don't it's all about the first 20 minutes isn't it but yeah bring it on anyway i'm back on here at eight o 'clock looking forward to that please do subscribe smash a like on the video and if you're watching other football today that's football's the place to be we we start at quarter past 12 for chelsea's game at forest and we've got arsenal fulham as well um don't forget the christmas jumper modeled by me what this is the best one we've ever i mean i feel like just wearing it in the summer it's just the best it is the best and uh i love it um i even like the fact that it's uh down the arm it's got like the uh the other bits there um links in the live chat united stand shopify order yours now uh when they're gone they're gone because they are knitted ones so we only print so many um we have to order them in august so we only order so many check it out thanks for watching take care stay safe and i'll see you later on that's what book John Daly here.

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