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0:33Hi everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. It's the start of another week. Everything's looking good with Manchester United. Lots to talk about this morning. I hope you're all doing very well. Get involved as always if you're on the live. If not, leave your comments and smash a like. Let's start off then. Well, let me give you a summary of what we're going to be talking about this morning. The Labour to Manchester United deal off according to latest reports. What are our thoughts about that as Manchester United look at other targets? Ineos have apparently refused to sanction the signing of a certain player I agree with, Lewandowski.

1:08We'll talk about that as well. Should we be building a future around Casemiro, who will be 34 in February? Are some of our fans losing the plot or are they ahead of the game? Also, I want to talk about three players that Ruvan Amrind's been proved right about. and I want to defend Jamie Carragher. He said that the sacking of Ruben Amrin was inevitable. Why is that a positive? And why are people making such a big point of it when actually we can spin it into a huge positive as well? And also we'll be talking about what's next for Manchester United. Big week ahead, big two away games coming up and the talk of where Manchester United can go this season.

1:46So lots to get into this morning. Hope you're doing well. Isn't it nice? isn't it great to be starting a week with a smile on our face looking forward to you know another game on saturday um and manchester united finally making steady progress it's great this is what we want and uh you know i sense that from this community and other communities as well i think people are actually enjoying what we're in at the moment you know monday morning uh at work or talking to people just saying what a good weekend that was what a good weekend that was and and it was it was a very good weekend for us and um hopefully we can have many more like it uh what who it wasn't a good weekend for was Carlos Belaba of Brighton and what we're getting this morning from numerous sources is that Manchester United's stance on Belaba has changed remember in the summer they were in talks for I think a week you know David Ornstein broke it Man United are in talks with Belaba Brighton let it happen Man United was speaking to his agent and the player and as we know his reaction to that has meant that he's not played well this season Brighton puts a price of£100 million.

2:48Now, I said this at the time. And again, this is why we'll talk about what Carrick has said in a bit. But this is why I really do embrace people getting it wrong. I said, and look, I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to say this because some people will be afraid to say this. I said in the summer when we were going after Carlos Belaber, remember, you cannot pretend that you weren't saying this because the Man United fan base cancelled a protest because we thought we were signing Belaber. But let's just jump back into the summer. There was a protest planned for the Arsenal game against the Glazer ownership.

3:24The 58 got a load of abuse and shut down by online fans saying, don't do a protest. Everything's going well. And that was because we thought we were signing the Labour. So everybody was on that bandwagon. And I said at the time, we need to offer Brighton something that they're going to take. and I felt that£80 million plus 20 or 30 in achievable add-ons might get that deal done. Brighton wanted 100 because that's what they got for Caicedo and Man United apparently offered 60. 60 was never going to get accepted. The deal didn't happen. Here we are in late October and I'm sort of sat there going, not that Man United got it right.

4:07Some people might say, well, Man United go right. 60 million was the right price. In the summer, it wasn't. He'd had a brilliant season. I wouldn't say Man United were right. I'd say we were wrong. I would say, thank God the deal didn't happen. I wouldn't be doing the deal at all. It's not a price thing for me. It's not like, oh, 60 million is the right price. I don't think he looked like a 60 million pound player either. I think this is not about Brighton wanting too much. It's about Man United not bidding at all I think that's where I am at the moment so that's where we were in the summer what we're getting this morning is that United are certainly still interested in Belaber but there's no prospect of further deals anytime soon or talks they're not but what's the set what's the wording they're looking at other targets basically we're not ruling anything out but we're looking at other targets and that will be a kick in the teeth for the Labour in his camp and potentially Brighton as well but look sometimes it's not always in the interests of the club I mean it's very reminiscent of what happened to City last year and what happened to Liverpool this year you win the league everyone in the summer says you're going to win the league again and then the season starts and you fall apart City fell apart Liverpool are falling apart and everyone's going, God, who would have thought that was going to happen?

5:28City were favourites last year, Liverpool were favourites this year, fall apart. In the summer, Brighton are sat there, you know, like cock of the walk going, hey, you know, look at us. We want 100 million for Belaboral, but wait till next summer and there'll be a bidding war. Now it's like, good luck with your bidding war. I don't think you're going to get any, you might, you're probably not even going to get 60 million pounds for him at the moment. So things can change. And I think the positive for United is that we should be perusing other options you know this this this you know this weekend this last few weeks has proven I loved what Wayne Rooney said about in Buma I'll talk about that in a moment but the type of profile of player that we need to bring into Manchester United is very very clear now it's very very obvious so look obviously some of this is paper talk you know stuff in the mirror you got stuff in the in team talk or you know all over the place this morning that Man United have called their interest in belabouring and looking and prioritising other targets.

6:24I mean, that's not even breaking news, really. It's common sense. And I wouldn't judge a player on one game. But as I said to you in the preview, I don't even know if Herzler should have picked him in that game. And in hindsight, he shouldn't have. He's had a bad season. He had a bad game on Saturday. And now, you know, it's the end of October and this lad cannot get his game back. He can't. He's rattled so much, he can't get his game back. And I sort of watched him against United on Saturday and I was like, he just looks confused to me. He doesn't know whether he's meant to be playing well or whether he's meant to be playing badly.

6:59You know, he even had that Instagram post, didn't he, that he posted before the game with a little wink on it about finally coming to Old Trafford or something. And you think, what a prat. What a prat. Like, we are not impressed by that sort of behaviour. You know, we've just got rid of a young idiot in ganache and i'm not saying he's like ganache at all i think i think the labor could still come to united and be a really good player but he's rattled by whatever happened in the summer you know he's making bad choices he's doing you know he's not performing on the pitch and you know somebody should be around him saying going into this game on saturday forget wanting to play at old trafford forget wanting to play to manchester united i think if in burma was coming with brentford or cunha was coming with wolves you know exactly what you'd get there'd be no doubt whether they love Man United or not I'm playing for Brentford or I'm playing for Wolves and the best way I can get a signing get a move to Man United is to be man of the match for Wolves or man of the match for Brentford you know I remember when United applauded Ronaldo R9 off the pitch for his hat-trick at Old Trafford like United fans are not going to go belabour's man of the match and won the game for Brighton let's not sign him they're going to go that's why we need to sign him that's why our midfield shit but he seemed to come with the wrong...

8:15He just seemed to be very confused. He wasn't totally rubbish, but his whole season's been like this. There's little moments, but he's being stubbed off after an hour every game because ultimately his performance is bad. And at the weekend against us, it was like, yeah, there was that rubbish shot over the bar. There were some bad tackles. He got the yellow card. There were some bad passes, but it was men against boys. Like Casemiro and Bruno were better than Belieber by a very long way. And we know, well, some of us know that's not our future, but he has, at the moment, he is ruining his chances of signing for Manchester United.

8:51And that's not based on one game. Like, he's been bad all season. So I think United are wise. And sometimes in life, it's a little bit like, have we dodged the bullet? And I think at the moment, United are of the mindset that maybe this isn't the right type of player. And the scouting will change. And especially like, I mean, look, the story goes on to say that United are prioritizing Adam Wharton over Belaber. Let me just run a poll on that, actually, because I like to do a poll. Either or, we're going to do three of these this morning, but sort of winner stays on. So let's do Elliot Anderson first, Belaber or Anderson, because Wharton will come in a moment.

9:36But apparently Manchester started prioritizing Adam Wharton over Belaber now. I'm quite chilled out about this. I think in relation to the midfield, we've had this conversation multiple times. And I really do think that what you've got is a situation whereby... What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky. And America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino.

10:19Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. It's October, and we can't sign for Labour, Wharton, Anderson, or Stille in January anyway. for multiple reasons. Stuttgart won again. They're in the top four in the Bundesliga. They're having an amazing season. Crystal Palace are having a good season and they don't want to sell till the summer. Forest don't want to sell Anderson till the summer and Brighton, as we know, don't want to sell the Labour till the summer. So none of these players are coming in until the summer anyway. What I think we should be doing in January is signing Connor Gallagher or a player like that.

10:52In the summer, we've got to go and sign one of those four I've just mentioned. but nobody says that you can't talk to all four and actually we probably need to talk to all four because if we go, I don't know, I want Adam Wharton and we go all in on Wharton and Wharton's like, I am interested in you but you know what, Real Madrid have just come in I can't turn it down even though United are in the Champions League it's Real Madrid, I want to go to Real Madrid United can't be sat there going get me the phone, get me the phone Like we need to talk to three or four of these people anyway. And we need to sell what we're all about.

11:30So for me, it's like maybe Belaber has a brilliant second half to the season and grows up and finds consistency. And we're all Belaber again. I guarantee at some point in the next six months, we'll be going, let's go and get Belaber. Let's go and get Belaber. He's back playing well again. At some point, you know, Elliot Anderson might play well against us next week and it'll be let's go for him. Stiller might look like he's one of the best midfielders in the world. The key is to keep them all lined up and over the next six months assess character, performance, the lot. And then we move. But right here, right now, I think this news is absolutely spot on.

12:09And it encourages me that United can be fluid and adaptable in the transfer market. Because they look in the past and it's like, we want Sancho. We want Sancho. We want Sancho. He's going out on the piss when I don't think he did go out on the piss. He's late for training, etc. I'm just throwing stories at Dortmund. He's late for training at Dortmund, which he was, I think. We still want Sancho. We want Sancho. We want Sancho. What about Dembele? We want Sancho. We want Sancho. And we get very tunnel-visioned. I like the fact that we're going, we wanted Baleba. We like Baleba. He's a very high-profile player.

12:41But right here, right now, we're parking that to look at something else. And we keep, you know, we assess that over the summer. Right here, right now, he is not a Man United priority. that can change very very quickly he needs to perform for Brighton but right here right now he shouldn't be and I think United are right about that my personal feeling is and I know some of you agree with me this is that I look at Cunha and I look at Embermo and I look at what they've done at Manchester United in a short period of time and I look at what they did at Wolves and Brentford and I don't see a drop-off certainly not in the last 18 months I don't see a drop-off in mentality and approach and professionalism.

13:21And we need those types of players. We can't nurture players really either. I think this is a really important thing with any player that we bring in now. We can't be a nurturer of talent. We've got enough players to nurture in relation to Lemenz, Yoro, Ahmad still learning, maybe Maynu. We don't really need to buy any more players to nurture because we haven't got the time. Great comment last night from Mojo. if we buy a player that's going to be good in three years time what will delit be in three years time where will bruno be in three years time we've got a lot of players that sort of need to be competing between the next one and four years so i think what we've learned with kunyarin and boomer is that we need to bring players in for the now 100 and uh look there's a lot to be positive around manchester united at the moment and you know what i can see some people moaning saying that we should still be going for Belaber, but I don't.

14:18We're Manchester United, and if somebody shows red flags before we've actually bought them, you don't commit. You might have a dream house, right? You might have a dream, in fact, let's do it better. You might have a dream girl or boy, right? And you meet them, you go out on loads of dates, you do the deal, everything's looking really, really good. And then you go on your first holiday together and you pop in the bathroom, they've done a turd they've not flushed it and you go ah that's non-negotiable for me i can't deal with that that's a big red flag it's big it's a big shit in the toilet that's not been flushed away you're fired you enjoy the rest of the holiday you say thanks very much and then you just stop taking their calls and i think that you know in life whether it's a relationship or it's a house or it's a car or it's a footballer you can look at a player and go they've got everything i want.

15:13Let's go and buy them. And for whatever reason, you have to put that purchase off. And when you put it off, you suddenly see something that makes you go, shit, I don't like that. We're not back in the bathroom looking at the toilet again. I'm talking about the footballer. And I think there's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong in saying I made a bad judgment call there. The evidence I had, I was going to do that. And the evidence I have today is different than yesterday. I'm not doing it anymore. The worst thing you can do is go, I really, really, and we've all done this, you know, whether it's a car, whether it's a computer game, whatever.

15:50I really, really, really want this. I really, really, really want it. And then it comes to buying it and somebody, there's evidence that it's not a good thing, but you go, but I really, really want it. I don't care. I'm going to do it anyway. And United have done that for 10 years. And I think I like this new approach because we can't afford to miss. there was a brilliant comment probably by me in the summer i think it was someone in the comment and they went liverpool can afford to miss arsenal can afford to miss man city can afford to miss because they're already up in the top four they can make signings and they can afford to miss like turkey could be a flop it doesn't really matter even izak for liverpool a lot of money but they probably gonna still be a good club without him um arsenal can afford for zubermende to flop because they've still got a lot of good players.

16:35We can't afford to miss. We can't. We've got to get every player right. And we will have some flops. But if we tick every single box and they flop, then everyone can go, you know, what more can you do? It just didn't work out. But when you see the red flags, I think United have to avoid them, certainly. It's interesting in the poll, 74 % of you would take Anderson over Belaver, which means there's no point in even doing um warton because he'll batter him as well let's just grab some of your comments on this so um belabor on social media bellingham with nightmare agents we must avoid this at all costs don't need that back in the clubs as junk yard james i don't really understand with belabor and the social media i don't really understand with belabor and the post that he deleted i don't really understand with belabor why his performances have dropped off because he didn't get a move.

17:27Personally, last season, he would be the player. I completely understand why Amrim and the club are talking to him. I was massively excited when we moved for him in the summer because there were so many games last year. I was like, this player is brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant. And then this season, we've seen absolutely nothing of it. And it's so obvious that it's to do with not getting the move. That's a mentality problem. you know that is a mentality problem it doesn't mean he's arrogant it doesn't mean he's you know self-centered it just means he's rattled he might be arrogant he might be self-centered he might just be disappointed but he's rattled him it doesn't matter whether you're like it doesn't matter what the reason is it's a concern because at the highest level it's about consistency um if he comes to man united and he gets sent off and then he goes and has a bad two months because he's rattled by it that's not what we need um that's my concern with belabor it's like he's a young player he can work through it but we have had our fingers burnt with a number of players especially younger players who you know this is why kunya and imbermo are so good they don't bring that with them because they're not being nurtured and i think at the moment belabor needs to have a long hard look and go and you know if he wants to move to man united it's very very simple i don't mind if Belaber's a Man United player next summer, if it's the player he was last season, what he needs to do if he wants to come to Man United, because I tell you what, subtle Instagram posts about, you know, finally at Old Trafford, that ain't going to please Brighton fans.

19:04And it certainly doesn't please Man United fans. Most people I look around Belaber at the moment are like, I don't want him. I don't want him. So he's put himself in a position that really, I feel sorry for him. You know, he was at Brighton, Man United approached him. He's been unsettled. but his reaction to that, somebody around him needs to say, this isn't doing you any good. Man United are looking at other options. Brighton aren't happy with your performance and you're getting subbed off after 60 minutes. What you need to do, if you want to go back to Man United or Real Madrid or whatever, or you want to keep your Brighton spot, let's be honest, over the next six months between now and May, you need to be Brighton's best player.

19:42You need to win player of the year for Brighton. You need to be consistent. And if he does that, then maybe the move comes back. But at the moment, you can't commit. And let's not forget, Brighton are going to ask 100 million quid. I wouldn't give them 60 now. I think 60 is too much for that. I think there's baggage now. I'd be like, Brighton will say, well, you've caused it. I'd go, no, we've exposed an issue that you didn't know was there. Somebody tries to buy him and his performance goes off a cliff. That's not a 100 million pound player, is it? So, you know, for me, united i wouldn't say we've dodged the bullet i'd say we've exposed something and we should have bought a midfielder in the summer but i'm sort of glad we didn't get the labor for you know for well we were never going to pay 100 million pounds were we so it'd be interesting how it plays out that's for sure um afcon amad and burmo masrawi will miss many games it might cost us the european qualification why did our recruitment team not see this is jay oh you know what this this afcon argument just very very quickly uh because i appreciate that sometimes we have to deviate um this afghan competition thing is making me laugh right happy birthday america it's time to celebrate and play your favorite las vegas casino games by american-owned spinquest.com what's better than fireworks and american pie hitting a blackjack in the palm of your hand and you won't lose your fingers over a thousand games including slots and live dealers and 30 point packs are on sale for 10 spinquest.com buy american players for american players spinquest is a free-to-play social casino avoid where prohibited visit spinquest.com for more details when it was liverpool away brighton at home forest away spurs away amman was going to lose four games and get the sack in the november international break we've won two in a row with the afcon everything's going to fall apart because we haven't got amad we haven't got emberma and we haven't got masraoui Masraoui's not even starting at the moment so that's irrelevant and Ahmad well Ahmad we can play Deleu there so you know he can play there straight away and Mbamo we could play Mount and Kunia we could play Xerxian Kunia we could play Bruno there and put Mainu in the midfield so we we have got options obviously Mbamo is a big loss but Mo Salah plays for Egypt you know there are other players that go in the AFCON what you're basically saying is we shouldn't be buying players who play in the AFCON um because that's the only way that you're gonna deal with that and I based on based on the importance of Mbermo I would not be going we shouldn't have bought an Mberma we shouldn't have bought Mberma because he's going to play in the FA Cup and and look this is what uh Wayne Rooney had to say which I think is absolutely spot on and many of you've said it He said, look, part of the success United are having is down to the form of forward Brian Embermo.

22:35Rooney said, look, I've got to admit, I wasn't convinced when United brought him to the club in the summer for 65 million. But his energy, his work rate, his desire is what you need to be a United player. I was a little bit unsure, but I think what he's showing is that he belongs there. He's been consistent with his performance. I think that's the main thing. if you're consistently getting into the right positions and getting chances, you will score 20 goals a season. And I think we've spoken about it here, Rooney's speaking about it there. This is the blueprint for what United need to sign in the future because the consistency is a massive word that doesn't exist at Man United anymore.

23:16His energy, his work rates, his talent, his desire, these things are all... For me, there's an overarching word of consistency. and there are ingredients to it. It's like the best tasting cake. What have you put in there to make that cake? What are the ingredients? Because it's not just cake, there's stuff that makes it. And looking at Mbamo, what are the ingredients that make him so important and so consistent? Some of it's experience, like he's in his mid-20s, the Brentford experience, the journey to Brentford you know his journey to there is part of it his desire his passion his ability his work rate all these things feed into consistency and mentality and you know it isn't rocket science there is an ingredient that goes into there are ingredients that go into this type of player Konya has it and Bermot has it you know there will be other players that have it and Manchester United need to look at that I mean look I'm looking at Brentford at the moment I'm not we're not we're not going to buy this player but you know you look at well i can name you two players that we won't buy that have it and they're both attackers shard at brentford is looking like a very you know very good astute signing and simenio at bournemouth is looking like a very astute signing as well and there are others there's probably a couple at sunderland to be honest with you um elliot anderson at forest has been mentioned there are these types of players out there and they're the sort of players we need to go for definitely um but look just on just just on look i think well i feel very positive this morning i hope many of you do what i don't want manchester united to do is make mistakes as i said on the show last night let's buy a midfielder in january let's 100 do that and if we don't that's on the ownership let's keep buying players like embermo and kunya not necessarily players that are 25 they can be 22 but they've got to have those ingredients.

25:14If I was in the recruitment team at United, I'd be like, all those ingredients that make Embermo, let's have a tick box thing, right? I'm going to create a tick box of a Man United player, right? And every player that you put forward, I want to tick them all. And what I want to tick off is experience, desire, work rate, talent, all these things and a few more. And if we don't tick them we don't buy them if you come in here with world-class talent but they haven't got consistency work rate etc mentality we're binning it off even if it's going to be that you know even if on their day they're one of the best players the world's ever seen if they don't have mentality desire work rate we bin them off because that's what we need and you know that that's the way that manchester united need to look at things now and hopefully that's the way that we are going to look at things because if we don't then i think that we might revert back and goes back to the blaber conversation goes back to the embermo conversation united need to be we can't make any more mistakes on recruitment and we've made some good choices this summer andrew park thanks very much for your super chat too much focus on proving opinions wrong says arch um from who i don't really get what that's all about updates on yulmland please says uh marker well i don't have any updates on yulmland at all i mean he probably is a player that should be i mean i i would say the five midfield targets for united at the moment will be stiller anderson wharton belaber yulmland i think they will be the five i think there are people like Manu Kone, Connor Gallagher and Joe Bellingham who are potentials but you know but I'd say the top five for the summer will be the five that I've mentioned there.

27:08Interestingly the Telegraph this morning was saying that Man United put an offer in and so did Spurs for Semenyu for 50 million pounds in the summer but it got rejected. I just say bullshit I've said this so many times I got told this in April we haven't made any contact with Semenyu it doesn't make any sense where did this 50 million come from and why were we buying another number 10 we always wanted kunya kunya was done in april but we had to wait till may to finalize it and we always wanted imbermo because we were working on that one for a long time as well so where does where does the menu where where does the 50 million pounds the menu offer come from it doesn't make any sense again we will always be linked to certain players so menu is a good player but he was never on the menu for man united because we locked in and i and again it's another positive we locked in on kunya and we locked in on umbermo as our top two and we got them maybe some menu was option three but we never bid because we got the players we wanted um do you have your eye on other possible alternatives expect uh except watson belabor still at anderson i really like anana at villa we might have to we might have to i mean there's no guarantee i mean we're talking about summer signing here.

28:21We might have to do that. As I said, there's a few others there. Jumlin at Sporting Lisbon is certainly going to be an auction as well. Manu Kone at Roma. There are others, yeah. Mark, will you admit you have got it wrong saying Liverpool have spent big and so should we? It's great that we have ended our spending. See you later. I've had enough of the internet today. What is he talking about? Why do I have to put up with this shit? What is he talking about? I can't believe it, mate. I can't fucking believe it.

28:59Sorry, I just had to take a little walk there. Hayan says, will I admit I got it wrong saying Liverpool have spent big and so should we? It's great that we've ended our ending spree. Mate, where do you think the two players I've just been talking about for the last two minutes came from? kunya and embermo cost us 130 million quid mate 130 million they didn't just turn up on a free if we want to get back where we need to be we need to spend a lot of money on quality players what your brain is doing is going you can spend money and be shit yes you can but we've just spent the last 20 minutes talking about the blueprints of the profile of player that we need to bring in and why people like the Labour might not be it on the evidence presented in front of us we need to spend Cunha cost 65 million 62 million pounds and Burmo cost 65 million pounds we probably slightly overplayed paid on in Burmo but we got the right player and who cares about an extra five million if it's the right player I don't know what you're drinking this morning but to stop would amram even pick anyone over casemiro and bruno if one comes in in january and they stay how do we progress if two of the four come in it's still bruno plus one says jack um i just think on casemiro like i'll come back to casemiro there's something i want to say about that but we need to buy two midfielders casemiro's gone in the summer he's not gonna say i love it in manchester i'll take a 50 pay cut when the mls and the saudis will give me what i'm paid now and probably more i know you've had high praise for stiller but i've heard reports he's quite slow don't you think we should buy a premier league proven player says uh pro forever yeah because um obviously every decent player in the premier league is premier league proven it means other mandate arsenals having a great season he came from the premier league as well i don't i don't i think experience is key but premier league proven doesn't always work out so you know i don't think we should just exclusively buy premier league proven players no because i think traditionally you can always get better value for money outside of the premier league as well i just think it comes down to the blueprint of the player and you know you look at somebody like donny van der beck admittedly i liked the look of donny van der beck but something was wrong there mentality whatever like you know it's about recruitment i've con done that um so menu would be perfect for left wing back any thoughts as ma con i i don't know i don't see that That's all.

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32:11I know it's working with Ahmad, but I don't see that at all. I think he's way too attacking.

32:19I don't see that. I don't see that. I think it might work. I think two wingers like Ahmad and Semenyu might work if you're at Sporting, where most of the teams you play aren't that good. I think in the Premier League, with the midfield of Bruno and Casemiro and two wingers on the wing and two tens and a striker. It would be great to watch. Well, I think we'd get exploited. I don't think that's the plan, no. That's why United were looking to play£100 million, says J.E.? I don't think so. If United knew about Belaba's red flags, I don't think they'd have gone for him at all. Probably positivity from the winds leaking into this, but I think we might try to get one of them in January and get another one of them in the summer.

33:01Might just be hopeful, says Arsh. We haven't got the money, mate. if you're talking about Wharton, Anderson, Belaber, Stiller we won't be going for them in January because we won't have the I mean it'll cost you more in January if if if if Palace are willing to sell Wharton for 70 million in the summer you're probably going to need to give them 85 in January just to make them think about it we won't have that type of and we do need to buy a midfielder in January but that's got to be a Connor Gallagher on a loan to buy you know the The major signing will have to be in the summer. Morning, Mark.

33:35If United do call on Belieber, I think they'll still want that physical ball-carrying profile. Manu Kone could be very interesting to keep an eye on. Definitely, yeah. We need refielders. So what about Manu and Agate, says Rob. Well, you know, they're either good enough or they're not, Rob. Jay Adevin, welcome to Members Club. Thank you very much for you as well. Andrew Park, thank you very much for your super chat. He says, Belieber wants to play alongside fellow countrymen in Burma. Perhaps he's doing this on purpose. what damaging the move i mean i don't think manchester united are going to look at belabor and go oh yeah he's he's definitely a player that we want a player that will down tools and perform badly to get a move i mean he needs to start playing well um are you worried about the afcon no spoke about that melts my mate said to me that sesco is just a more expensive slightly better version of fed course what's your opinion on that this is connor i think i was doing a watched along yesterday of the Arsenal game and in the live chat, people were literally slagging off Eze saying he's a load of shit and then he scored an absolute banger.

34:36And I think people are just, I don't know what it is. I think it's low attention spans. I think people are just eager. It's almost like some people just wake up in a day and go, I've got to say something controversial five times a day. And people can't relax. People can't be patient. Sesco has had an up and down start at United, but ultimately I'm very happy with it as he adjusts to the Premier League and he's a young striker. I'm very, very happy with him, but some people just want to know today whether he's a flop or he's a hit. And obviously there's a journey to both of those things. That's the way I look at it.

35:13The ages of De Ligt, Kunja, Embermo, Ahmad, Lemeng, Yaro, Dorgo, Sesko is huge. Mentally watching this team is good. Currently, potentially years worth says jim yard james love that andrew park thank you very much appreciate you um and i want to ask about casemiro but there was something here um tabiso says here's the amram out as latest spin claim they were only amram out because he was too rigid then praise recent changes he made none they argued for even though he always made uh alterations in the systems it's pathetic says to be so and siad says united will go for a midfielder if we're in the title challenge well i hope you're right about that i really do look it's interesting um i've seen a lot of people taking a pop at jamie carriga because jamie carriga was on monday night football a few weeks ago and he said the sacking of amrim is inevitable so you know as i said the world we live in now 100 % people are going to take those comments and go, look at that idiot.

36:16Obviously, he's a Liverpool fan as well. Look at that idiot. What a practice, that and the other. I look at it in a different way. I look at it and I go, at that time, as much as I hated him saying it, he was probably on a very strong argument to say that Amrim sacking is inevitable because that would have been in the the backlash of losing to City, losing to Brentford, we'd have Grimsby. I think there was a time where a lot of you were hammering him out and I'm reading the comments and I'm going, you know, he is sacking himself. I said it, he's sacking himself. What's the difference between his sacking is inevitable and he's sacking himself?

36:55I was never hammering him out, but I felt he was sacking himself. So I think that when Carragher said that, you can't ridicule him now for saying it because that was very real. There was only a few short weeks ago that it felt like it was inevitable. But I take it as a positive because if when Carragher said that, it was relevant. I mean, I certainly remember him saying it and I don't remember a show or a super chat or a comment or a tweet from anybody going, look at him, he's a moron. Like he was probably saying it at a time where a lot of people were feeling it. But the positive for me is look at where we are now.

37:34Does that not reinforce the job that Amram has done to go from a point where the majority felt that he was sacking himself or it was inevitably was going to get sacked to a point where we're here talking about potentially Champions League football and a future for Amram at Man United that we all want to see? it's a short space of time and that can be a warning on how one extreme can move to another to another but it can also be a huge positive of the journey we've gone on from the brink to relative security and optimism so i don't mock carriga for saying it because i think most of you were saying it and i was certainly saying it it felt like he was sacking himself so to come back from that point not many do i've said it before with ten hog i've said it before with jose i think it gets to a point where you have to be jose out because you look at football in general and go managers don't come back from this they don't come back from this now i don't think amram was at that point but i think he was very close to the point of no return you know i really really do um so i see it as a positive when people when i see people mocking jamie carrigan for saying you know how he said he's it's inevitable he's going to get the sack and look at look at it now i just think that is another positive it's another string to amram's bow to be able to go look you were very very close and look at what he's done and look at how he's turned it around because i don't think a lot of people saw that coming as for the argument that amram outers are now saying that amram in because he's shown his adaptability well you know if they if if people are too up their own ass to acknowledge that they're flip-flops or that they don't want to get proven wrong and they want to justify that they've gone from screaming get out of my club you absolute fraud to i'm actually am i'm in now because he's tweaked the system a little bit well you know you can make your own minds up on that all i would say is the system hasn't changed at all it hasn't changed at all.

39:37The reason we're second or first in the season this year for Longballs is because we've been going more direct all season. The reason our XG is a lot higher than it was last year is because we've been playing the same way all season. We played well against Arsenal on the opening game. We played well against Fulham in the first 20 minutes. We played well against Arsenal and well against Fulham in the same way we did against Chelsea, in the same way we did against Sunderland and in the same way we did against Brighton. The only difference is we've beaten Liverpool and Brighton. We're not playing any different.

40:10All season, look, we've mentioned on this show, like, touches in the box, XG has been high ever since Arsenal. There's nothing, he's not, if people want to justify being Amram out in the October international break and now they're Amram him in because he changed something in the October international break. He didn't. He literally didn't. He's still playing a 3-4-3 and he's still playing the same style he was before. The results are getting better. And maybe that's because players are getting used to each other. LeMens is in goal. It could be multiples, but we've not changed the system. If you think that's what's happened, we haven't.

40:49We are getting better results, but we could have beat Fulham. We could have been 3-0 up against Fulham at half-time. We drew the game. We could have beat Arsenal. We lost the game. So, you know, if Bruno tracks Foden, we were actually playing very well in the Etihad until Foden scored. So the signs have been there. It's very similar to Liverpool. Like Liverpool won their first five games in a row. They've lost their last four Premier League games in a row. They haven't shifted. I've watched Liverpool a lot this season. When they beat Bournemouth on the opening day of the season, they played pretty much the same as they did against Brentford on Saturday.

41:26What happened is they won some of them games and they've lost some of them games. Like, you know, just think, why can't people just say, I was Amri Mal, I thought he was a load of shit, but actually I might be wrong. I think he's showing something I want to get behind. So what? So what? What does that matter? Look, look at Casemiro and Bruno. I don't think they're a good midfield. I really don't. But on Saturday, they played really well. They did play really well. The jury's still out, but they did play really well. Why can't we just go, you know what? They played really well. People go, you don't like Bruno and Casemiro in the midfield.

42:02I don't. But they played really well, and they definitely should start against Forest. But you don't like them. But they played really well. I don't like them as a pair, but they played really well. You've got to give them the chance. Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Bretzky, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a$30 coin pack for just$10. $10 for$30? I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details.

42:46That moves me on to something else I wanted to ask you, actually. um would you keep casimiro because there are casimiro has a bit of a cult following for me he's one of the best holding midfielders of my lifetime actually uh certainly in the last decade but him him you know i you know you talk about people like buskets you talk about rodry kimmich casimiro's name has to be in there as one of the best holding midfielders of the last decade in the world game he's not that player anymore um he's still got you know you could get you could go down your local park with paul scoles today and he'd still do things that take your breath away but he wouldn't be able to play in the midfield in a premier league game because he's like hasn't got the legs and i think with casemiro there it's almost like when you say casemiro's lost it and then he scores or he plays a good pass people go well he hasn't it's not well paul scoles can play that pass but what he has lost is sharpness and speed and he ain't going to get that back so for me i move casimiro on at the first opportunity because the money we pay is ridiculous for the player that we now get um that doesn't mean he's not our best option in the midfield at the moment but i've seen a few people saying oh casimiro he sat haters down at the weekend well one i don't think anybody actually is a hater they just don't like they want to they want to move him on um and these people are saying we should keep him let's build the midfield around Casemiro for the next two years and I'm like the next two years I'm not even sure whether it'd build the midfield around him for the next two months you know I've you know I feel that there will be games where we go why is he playing in the midfield he hasn't got the legs for it it works against Brighton but I mean maybe one game a week he can do it to be fair but I still would be moving him on at the end of his contracts and i still think united will and i think he'll want to go as well also adding to the fact that he's not like bruno he's not 31 he's 34 in february like 34 in february there's not many i can't think of many holding midfielders in a midfield two who are running around in the top six because we are a top six club now um at 34 so for me bruno and casimiro let's get what we can out of them this season certainly don't think agate and manu are pushing them enough and i think that needs to be acknowledged but i wouldn't be looking to extend a contract of a player who's going to be 34 in february i think that for me would be unless he wants to take 100 grand a week which would be over well be a two-third reduction in his wage wouldn't it so yeah um if he was 28 i'd do it but not at 34 i think sometimes you've got to look at the legs and go you know i acknowledge that even though i didn't want to acknowledge it a while ago um 70 of you wouldn't give a new contract 30 would um interestingly i missed this yesterday morning and i don't know why but the sunday mirror uh reported that inios will not be sanctioning any move for Robert Lewandowski even if the recruitment team put it forward uh their reasoning behind that is that they want to move away from expensive uh older players um and build something that's more sustainable both financially and future planning as well I think this is an intelligent move um we had some stories about Lewandowski last week one story was linking Amrind to wanting to do it.

46:21Lemdowski would be 38 if he signed for United next summer. He would want big money. I mean, I'm glad there is at least a line being drawn under that to say that this makes absolutely no sense. One of the best strikers in the world still, but not a striker that Manchester United should be looking to bring in. Absolutely not. I'm sure we will be bringing the striker in and i think that's going to be a recurring theme over the next um the next few months uh moving to i mean i don't think we'll bring a striker in in january as much as it would help us but i definitely think it's a player um that i definitely think it's a position that we we will be looking to utilize um over the next two transfer windows up to the summer.

47:16But yeah, it can't be someone like Lewandowski. I mean, look, we're probably going to give Harry Maguire a new contract. He's 33 in March. And last week, I think a lot of people would have said, yes, give Harry Maguire a new contract. He scores the goal against Liverpool. He's not even on the bench against Brighton. And is that not what Ineos are basically saying? It's like, look, Lewandowski's a big name. Casemiro's a big name. But they're not 28, they're 38. They're not 24, they're going to be 34. They're not 23, they're going to be 33. Harry does pick up injuries now. One of the things I liked about Maguire when we first got him was he was never injured.

47:57He does pick up injuries now. And you know what? He would have been chomping at the bit. He scored a winning goal at Anfield. You know, that injury must be significant because he'd run through brick walls to be playing against Brighton, having scored the winner at Anfield. He'd be running through brick walls to be part of that atmosphere. And he's picked up an injury. So, look, Man United, I think we will keep Maguire. I understand why, for the experience. But it's got to be the right wage, because how many games is he actually going to end up playing for us? But, yeah, intelligent decisions need to be made.

48:33And intelligence, look, I don't want to talk about Rashford, because Barcelona fans, if you think it's demanding United, it's yeah it's possibly more at barcelona especially when they lose to real madrid so rashford's getting a bit of stick uh apparently i didn't watch el classico i don't know how barcelona played i don't know how rashford played but apparently he's getting a bit of stick from some fans um i'll leave rashford out of this but in a way amarin is well amarin was right i'm you know it's almost you could walk around with a t-shirt at the moment with Amorim was right on it because what is he wrong about at the moment if someone wants to let's play what let's play that game what's Amorim wrong about at the moment I mean I'm sure there are things but Ganaccio at the weekend Chelsea fans again are getting very impatient with him scores a goal sits there on the advertising hoards like he's you know Billy Big Bollocks hooked before an hour Chelsea lose that goal means absolutely nothing you lost 2-1 to Sunderland and he got subbed off after an hour.

49:39Amorim was right. Jadon Sancho comes on as a sub for Bendia, gets subbed off himself. Amorim was right. Marcus Rashford, look, I don't know what went wrong there, but Man United win at the weekend, Barcelona. I don't think... I think Amorim and Rashford, I just think they were right to part ways. But there's a lot of things that Amorim's getting prove right about at the moment. And it just shows you that patience is the hardest skill to learn, especially in football. But at the moment, he is getting a lot of things right. Actually, you know what? Just on Jadon Sancho, I was reading an article about Sancho today.

50:18Apparently, he's just come back from illness. I don't know whether I'm right about this, but I don't know whether I'm mixing it up with somebody else. But I'm sure when he was at United, I'm sure I remember saying once he must be the player that gets ill more than anybody else and you know a player gets a calf strain a player gets a knee injury a player gets you know concussion I'm sure at United Sancho got ill three or four times and then at Villa he's been ill again he needs to get himself down and have a flu jab or something like illness under I mean I don't know what I don't know I don't know I don't know with Sancho I mean god forbid you know who knows what the underlying cause could be.

51:00But I mean, he missed three months at United. But it did, when I was reading the article, it did catch my eye that he's just come back from illness. And I was like, sure he was ill at United a lot. Look, all I'd say about that is best to look to the lad. I'm glad it's not our issue. The same with Ganacho. You know, I'm glad I'm just so, you know, in relation to Ganacho, I'm just glad he's not our issue. I look at Mbermo and Cunha. I look at Anfield. I look at Brighton and I look at if you just imagine an experiment for a moment, right? You take Mbermo out the team and you put Ganacho in there for the last two games.

51:39Do we beat Brighton 4-2? Do we beat Liverpool 2-1? No. No. Fair weather player.

51:49No. We've seen it for the last two years. What happens with those types of players? This is the difference. mentality, hard work, talent, consistency. The fact that some people still want to make out that Amrind was wrong to remove Ganacho and Sancho and Rashford for Cunha and Mbamo. And we replaced three players with two. And I still would take those two over three every day of the week, every day of the week. Yeah. Sancho's on loan. Yeah, but he's out of contract in the summer, isn't he? Yeah, he's out of contract in the summer. And what an opportunity for United, by the way. I mean, to be sat where we are in the table at the moment, it's great.

52:38And you know what? I really thought, it's Carabao Cup this week anyway, isn't it? So I'm not really bothered about that. But last week was a European week. And I'm like, oh, God, I miss European football for Manchester United. And hopefully we'll get it back. But the week flew by. you know you beat you beat Liverpool on the Sunday hey guys Lady Luck here are you going on any road trips this summer I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips and being that I'm going to be passenger princess I love playing on spinquest.com spinquest has all of my favorite slot games live blackjack live craps head on over to spinquest right now and get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10 spinquest is a free to play social casino.

53:25Void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. And you're thinking, oh, European week, it's going to drag, it's going to drag. And it absolutely flew by, and I'm sure it will do again. And, you know, it's only three o 'clock on Saturday when we're playing again, and I'm just like, can't wait to play. And then Spurs after that, can't wait to play. The next two games I'm really excited about because Liverpool at Anfield, they're going to have the ball, they're going to attack. Brighton, naive or not they still think it's you know 2019 they're still playing pass out from the back risky pep football different opportunities if you win the ball back you've got lots of space forest and spurs they ain't going to commit like that they're not going to pass out from the back they're not going to leave themselves spaces at the back so when we beat forest on saturday which we will we're going to beat a team that's a low block team and when we go to spurs and win which i think we can i'm not going to say we will we'll be beating a thomas frank team i think if we come out of those two games with two wins but or a win and a draw they're different types of wins and that's what you've got to do you've got to play different types of teams so the next two games i'm really looking forward to uh believer should be playing out of his skin to previously united player and make it impossible for us to walk away the drop off is not worth the risk says dave the brave Seth says good days are coming from last season starting to believe says Seth got an assist Barca's bester attacker this season says Robert McCormack mate mate mate don't talk don't this leave me out of it Rob Bob leave me out of it I'm just telling you that Barcelona fans were getting on his back I didn't watch the game I don't know Seth says I feel bad for Kunja on one side Mbermo got Ahmad Kunja got the low need one midfielder in January one super midfielder in the summer and one good left wing back.

55:16What a week of the United, says Seth. Have to be all pinned on Le Mens. Last piece of the confidence pie. Defenders don't have an enemy behind them at all times. Visible change in the defence. I like Le Mens, Junkyard James, but I think that's really offensive to try and say that the reason we've beaten Liverpool and Brighton is all because we've got a goalkeeper. It's made a massive difference, but I don't think it's just down to that. Building your future around Casemiro is like finding a field with a big red sign. The entrance saying, warning may contain landmines then thinking what a great place to build my new property says nick p wondered where that was going to go but it makes sense well done uh do you think we need a wing back as well says shen well i don't i don't like i don't like delo at left wing back um so if he's the first choice left wing back we do uh i personally would like to develop dorku and i think he is good enough he's only just turned 21 um but yeah i i think the width is so important in an amram system you probably do need to bring players in there um hello mark i ordered sweatshirts to nigeria when can shipping start if it's the christmas jumper they are shipping the first week in november so it's pre-orders at the moment yeah united will go for a midfield okay is the kitchen still not done says kazim last week last week i tell you what if it's done next week i'll do a live stream from the kitchen next monday morning i've having beaten forest as well that would be good won't it um great show this morning you just can't put him in same conversation as sancho says robert mccormack who rashford well when i didn't i was using it was called amrin is right was amram right to remove rashford yes but i said like it was right for both parties to go was amram right to remove ganacho i don't think ganacho wanted to go i think he got booted amram was right we're talking we're playing a game of amram is right and amram has his rights on all the removals he's made this summer that's what i'm saying um a lot of people said amram was wrong to ask for two tens and a strike over a midfielder only at the end of the season will we know if it was right well glenn that's very dangerous what you're saying there that is very very dangerous glenn um because that is not what amram asked for um it's a well-known fact that amram wanted a midfielder and they didn't get him one he didn't say get me two midfield get me two number tens instead of a midfielder he didn't do that the club didn't get him a midfielder which is different like he wanted a midfielder we even tried to get conor gallagher in the last week of the window so amram wanted a midfielder you know when you're a manager you go that's what i want and you give it to your board your board then has to deliver amram didn't go just don't worry about midfield get me two tens we did try and he wanted midfielders that's why we spoke to belabor that's why we tried to get conor gallagher so you know if we don't get top five because we didn't buy a midfielder i don't think that's on amram i think that's on the board um andrew park says sadly martinez is done this is a big statement andrew any player with an acl injury never recovers fully according to research by UPMC.

58:22Falcao is the perfect example. Well, Alan Shearer did pretty good. Did his ACL in the 90s. 1992, I think, which was 33 years ago. And he went on to become the all-time Premier League goalscorer on a much more demanding pitch. So I don't think it's a be all and end all. I do agree. Some players struggle to come back from ACLs, but there's countless players that have done it. So fingers crossed. I mean, look, you might get proven right, Andrew. He's a very combative player with a weakened knee. That could be problematic, but there's every reason to believe that he can come back. Yeah. Why have you not spoken about how bad Manu is when he came on?

59:13time to sell whilst we still can says dave the brave well that is a brave comment from dave um can we pick that up at eight o 'clock because we're right at the end of the show now and we've done a good full hour and i don't want to waste what would be a very good five to ten minute conversation at the end of the show so we can certainly pick that up at eight o 'clock i mean i'm not going to lead on it at eight o 'clock but we'll bring it into the eight o 'clock show because i actually agree that menu is a topic of conversation that i had with somebody this morning um before i did the stream so definitely we'll come back into that because i want may need to play i think all you a lot of you want may need to play but i think you know if you look at agate he made a difference when he came on um if you're coming on as a sub for manchester united at the moment you've got to come on like heaven like agate hungry to make a difference competing competing for places you can't come on and just be complacent and you know there's no excuse for that the team's buzzing you know you need to come on and grab your opportunity why isn't he grabbing that opportunity i think there's a very good reason which we'll discuss at eight o 'clock thanks everybody for watching tonight this morning absolutely fantastic start to the week make sure you smash the like and subscribe as always um and uh we are back at two o 'clock and it's an eight o 'clock show tonight so hopefully everybody's starting to adjust to the plus one hour i was reading today actually i didn't realize that there's a weird period where we're normally five hours ahead of new york but for the next week or so we're four hours because the clocks don't go back in new york or eat the east coast until the first week of november so i always thought it was a european thing but i apparently clocks do go back around the world in different areas as well so hopefully hopefully um hopefully um everybody's starting to get up to speed now that the 24 hours last 24 hours the clocks have gone back an hour in the uk which is probably messing up with some of you but uh yeah i should have explained that at the start um thanks everyone for watching great show this morning really enjoying it i'm hoping to do an fc26 man united career mode it's about five o 'clock today on my channel as well because we're coming towards the end of season one and i'll tell you what i'm better than am i'm in a bloody title race um speak to you in a bit take care and thanks for watching

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