223: Amorim's UNTHINKABLE Choice! Shock TRANSFER Return!

0:00Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. hello everybody good morning and welcome to the united stand i'm mark goldbridge and this is your latest manchester united news lots to get into this morning uh well i've just i was just a little bit late because i was just reading about ganacho and this um other young player that manchester united might be approaching uh 16 year old according to pletigol but actually what i want to talk about on the show this morning is more about the unthinkable of jayden sancho coming back to Manchester United.

1:00We've also got updates on sporting midfielder Yulmland. David Ornstein has been speaking about January transfers for Manchester United. The Telegraph have given a Manchester United player Positivity Street signing of the summer so far. We'll talk about that. I also want to talk about the improvements that I think have happened over the last few weeks with Amrim. A lot of people are, you know, talking about changes in systems and stuff, which I just don't. I think it's fanciful, but I will give you my feelings on that. I also want to talk about luke shaw um luke shaw having a bit of a glow up at the moment a lot of people saying why aren't you giving him any credits i want to talk about that uh joe bellingham something on that as well and a potential return for a manchester united player that left in the last two years who may be heading back to the premier league should manchester united be looking at him scooby-doo anyway we uh also um what's this um oh yeah that's about david ornstein as well brilliant stuff okay lots to get into this morning as I said but what is Amorim's unthinkable choice this morning well it actually revolves around Jadon Sancho um so uh things are not going very well for Jadon Sancho at Aston Villa at the moment um things are not going very well for Jadon Sancho at all um he is starting to become a player that gets loaned out every year I saw a brilliant comment in our comments yesterday about Jadon Sancho, you may as well call him rent a car because he's like one of those car firms now who every year is just getting leased out to everybody, but nobody actually owns.

2:33Well, we do own Jadon Sancho and Man United could well be facing an unthinkable decision come the next few months. Now, there was a hint in the summer that we might do this. I find it repulsive, but some people think it's not a bad idea. We have got the option of a plus one on Jadon Sancho. Now we can activate that effectively keeping him as a Man United player for another year in the attempt to try and get a transfer fee for him in his final year or or we can just let him go for nothing this summer. That removes the 250 grand a week. That also puts up a big massive L to say that we spent 75 million pounds on a player who's still in his mid-20s and we're letting go for free.

3:17I think this will come down to, I don't even think this will come down to Ruben Amrim, but I'm interested to know what you think we should do. I don't even think it comes down to Ruben Amrim because I don't think Ruben Amrim wants Jadon Sancho. I think this is going to come down to the business people and whether they go, do we extend him to try and get a transfer fee or do we let him go and admit we've just blown£75 million and a million pounds a month in wages on a player who is still going to be mid-20s going for nothing. And I think that is a decision that is not going to be our decision. It's going to be everybody else's decision.

3:53And I'm not too sure as to what they're going to do. For me, get rid. You know, I think that the way a football club should be acting, and it goes bigger than Jadon Sancho, is that if a player is not part of the vision, you remove that player. We're a football club. We're not a bloody bank. but unfortunately we are run like a bank and we are run like a business and they may they may trigger that final year just to try and get some money for him in the summer because let's be honest Jadon Sancho has probably been running his contract down for the last two or three years knowing that if he's free next summer it's another big payday for him as well so I just think cut our losses and go there's a lot of positivity around Manchester United at the moment there is a vision to build and be better with the right profile as player.

4:42And these types of players are, you know, they're not the right sort of players for Manchester United. I mean, I literally just saw a quote coming in from, what was it? I need to talk about this player that we're going for as well. I think it's coming from Fabrizio Romano about Ganaccio. Here it is. So Ganaccio on why he joins Chelsea. when I spoke with the club and Maresca it's important also the style of play we have he explained a lot to me in a video call with him it's a big chance to improve as a player in a team like Chelsea so I mean but look I don't I don't I don't I presume that interview is just to make Chelsea fans like him because as a Man United fan I'm like so what you know actually to be fair the way the way Chelsea play they do use wingers so when he talks about style of play probably does suit you better because you certainly don't have the footballing IQ to play behind a striker in a two we saw that last season so you know going to Chelsea and having a video call about a 4-3-3 um fair play you know get out basically and I think this is to me it's gone beyond the whole irritant at these, you know, the bomb squad or whatever you want to call it.

6:00They're just not part of the future squad and we should cut ties. And it would be unthinkable to renew Sancho's contract just to try and hopefully get a transfer fee for him, which actually nobody's going to give us. So I think the worst thing that could happen is that he actually starts doing okay for Villa and United go, let's extend the contract. And then what if he comes back next summer and says well I'll just I want another loan then I'm not going anywhere I think he's got United by the balls and United just need to go if I was to Jim Rattiff I'd say it wasn't my mistake it's got nothing to do with my recruitment team let him go I'm going to focus on the things that are in my control because we're heading towards a big place now and look I'll bring this I wasn't going to bring this in early but the Telegraph today have voted Mbermo as uh the summer signing of the season so far you know across the whole of the Premier League he is the summer signing of the season according to the Telegraph now we must take all this stuff with a pinch of salt at the eight o 'clock show was brilliant last night so many good questions looking forward to tonight's one as always but I only listen to fan opinion really now um because there are good opinions in the media it's not totally bad but we saw it a few weeks ago with the Athletic calling Sesco a flop You know, it's, there's a lot of crap out there, but I, I did, you know, I think where it, where, for me, it's like a bonus, you know, if the media actually gets it fair play, if they don't, I don't need it.

7:29You know, they don't, they don't appreciate the lit, et cetera. But when they're saying that in Burmo is player of the signing of the season so far, and you look at the, you know, the amount of players that were brought in the summer. And I think, you know, as he's done very well at Arsenal, Maduweki was doing very, very, very well at Arsenal. Man City have made some good signings and and look that's without being arrogant and talking about someone like Truffaut at Bournemouth who's brilliant left back absolutely brilliant so there's been some good signings there's been some big flops potentially but Mbemo's got four Premier League goals in nine games in a Man United side and the minute he hits double figures I think that's not easy to do when you're not a striker at Man United it's not easy to it's not even easy to do when you're a striker at Man United.

8:11So we're in a good place at the moment. And I think we just need to avoid bad decisions. Simple as that. Simple as that. So let me know your thoughts on that one. Got a lot to get through this morning, but a little bit of breaking news coming in. Hey, everybody. Lady Luck here. And we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on spinquest.com, which is an American own social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to spinquest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just 10 bucks.

8:47SpendQuest is a free to play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. This is coming in from Pletigol. Man United are in strong talks over the signing of Kevin Filling. He hates dentists, apparently. The 16-year-old striker could leave AIK this winter and his price is valued at around 3 million euros there is also interest from the Bundesliga um it's got Favell written all over that um and you know what I don't dismiss these types of stories because they are exciting but we're going to get three or four of these at least every season um I can't tell you anything about this player uh maybe somebody can but you know little bit like Obi coming in from Arsenal and Kone and there are others we are looking around Europe and the world for 15, 16, 17 year olds that can make us better in our youth department and maybe they will become first team players.

9:49Lots of clubs do this by the way we just don't hear about it, Man City do it, Liverpool do it, Chelsea do it so it's encouraging that we do it but it doesn't mean they're going to be first team players i mean you know what's obi doing at the moment like a year ago there was this big noise around obi what's he doing at the moment he's still developing and maybe he will hit the first team and maybe he won't um so look these things are always exciting but we actually i don't want them to be sporadic i want them to be regular because the more of these young talented players that we're spotting and bringing in the higher the percentage chance that one or two of them will actually break through into the first team set up at some point in the next few years.

10:28So always encouraging. Let me talk to you about David Ornstein. He has been speaking with NBC about Manchester United's January activity, specifically around Sexy and Manu. And he's basically said this, that it's extremely unlikely that um pretty remote in fact is what he said chance that xerxi or mainu will head to west ham in the january transfer window um mainly because nobody even knows if they'll actually even be leaving in the summer but probably um you know for west ham it's probably out of the you know out of our out of their price range maybe i don't know but that was sort of coming out yesterday anyway wasn't it um we spoke in depth about mania yesterday and um look i think i just think on those two at the moment united's message will be that they don't want them to go because what you know it's as i said i i saw another journalist yesterday writing about this and i'm like as if man united at the end of october are gonna say yeah xerxi and mania were available i mean you're gonna say they're not available knowing that they're gonna want to go and then I mean it's just it's a negotiation tactic isn't it they want to go you don't want to let them go and then if a club comes in that they've got to pay so maybe maybe someone like Maynou wants to go and Napoli wants him and he wants Napoli and Man United are saying no no no Napoli got to do something to make us say yes so United's stance will be no we're not doing anything and that will be the case until January and unless somebody offers offers us something you know that makes that works for us um but you know there's still two months like what if Zerksy got what if Zesko got injured you know what if Zerksy came off the bench and scored a hat-trick in five minutes you know weird things can happen but I think we all know that January will be a very interesting time for players that aren't getting the game time that they want as they aren't at the moment so we'll have to wait and uh can see see what happens with that um with regards to a player that could potentially returning to the Premier League.

12:39I think this is going to generate a little bit of conversation. In fact, people are getting a lot of comments in already because we're whizzing through a lot today because it's going to be fast-paced this morning. So make sure you smash the like and get your comments in. Darren says Xerxie needs more game time. Robust says, Mark, you just revealed our transfer strategy to our rivals. I think it's everybody's transfer strategy. You never say a player's for sale because even if they are, you say that they're not uh in the hope that you get a better offer don't worry mate I haven't revealed some secret um but Scott McTominay uh for you I've not mentioned this for a few days because I've been reading it for a few days and I thought you know what I don't want to bring it into a new show but I am going to now because there's yet another story this morning about Scott McTominay who apparently is loving life playing for Napoli but he's not loving life in Naples because he's basically become a bit of a god a footballing god they love their football there and they absolutely love Scott McTominay and he is a player that when he was at Manchester United really appreciates the private life and being left alone and he isn't apparently able to do that out there in Italy so he's already thinking about coming back to the Premier League which is just just weird isn't it I mean he's doing really well again he had a bit of a slow start to this season but he scored I think three goals in the last two games brilliant season last year you know a legend in Naples now and they'd be devastated if he left but apparently the lifestyle is causing him a bit of grief now it just sounds really strange to me but I don't think there would be a shortage of takers of Premier League clubs.

14:22And the interesting thing is, is that if Scott McTominay were to leave in the summer, you know, going from Serie A to the Premier League will not be a problem for a multitude of Premier League clubs to drop 30, 40 million, 50 million pounds on the table and say, we want Scott McTominay. So he's 20, what did I just look at? He's 29. 29 in December, Scott McTominay. Where do the years go? Skippy-dee. How can he be 29? Is that right? 29? He's 29 in December. Well, bloody hell. I can't believe it, man. Gabby. Gabby. I can't believe it. Scott McTominay. It's only 29 in December. Ali! Yeah, I can't believe that.

15:20So he's 29 in December. So if he's heading back to the Premier League, I suppose he would want to do that quite soon. The question is, I think there's plenty of clubs that would take Scott McTominay, Everton, West Ham, probably Brentford, you know, maybe Newcastle. There's a lot of clubs I think would take Scott McTominay. Would we, at Manchester United, take Scott McTominay back and should Manchester United take Scott McTominay back? Because I want to get ahead of this before it becomes a thing over the next coming weeks and months if he's heading back. And the honest answer is I'm conflicted.

16:01Conflicted. Hello and welcome to Conflicted Bridge, a new morning section on the news show. I'm conflicted on this because, well, let's run a poll on this one. This is a poll. would you sign McTominay back start the poll I'm conflicted on it right because clearly there's something going on because it keeps being mentioned and if he did come back I don't know whether we've got a first refusal but he does love Manchester United and And I don't think we would bring him back because of his age. I don't think we'd want to. Napoli would quite rightly want 40, 50, maybe 60 million pounds. And he's 29.

16:53So that's straight away. So Jim's going to say, no, we're not doing that. The reason I'm conflicted, though, is you've got Invermo, you've got Cunha. If you need to bring a number 10 on. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino.

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18:06he wouldn't start them for me but as part of the squad you do get a certain guaranteed level of effort and threat um i just wouldn't pay 50 million pounds for it but look it is certainly one to um you know maybe chew the fat on over the next coming weeks and months uh 67 percent of you wouldn't do it um which is interesting uh let me just catch up on some of the super chats we've had this morning i don't want to neglect people um emily derry says is the transfer fee going to be worth the expense of sancho's wages no i couldn't run yeah so going back to the unthinkable about whether we we we extend jayden sancho's contract in the summer by one year to try and get a transfer fee or whether we just cut our losses and let him go for free emily raises a great point again because if you if you think about it if we are paying 250 grand a week at the moment that's a million pounds a month and the minute you extend his contract you've got to pay a million pounds a month which is basically 12 million every year um and are you gonna get 15 million for him to make a three million pound profit um well you wouldn't pay the wages you wouldn't pay the wages because you'd be gone i think it's a big risk and also sancho doesn't necessarily have to have to agree to a transfer i've always said and i've been proved right on this when remember in the summer when man united kept talking about a transfer fee for jayden sancho i know for a fact we lined up three deals three deals where people were going to pay money for jayden sancho but it never got off the ground because sancho was like well why would i sign a contract with let's pretend AC Milan on 150 grand a week which is a hundred thousand pound a week pay cut so that Man United can get 15 million when in a year's time I get the money and I'll still be able to be on the equivalent of 250 grand a week why would he why would you do that why would anybody do that forget Jadon Sancho imagine you right you're on let's say you're on 200 grand a week you've got one year left on your contract you're in your mid-20s and you know in a year's time you're free from your contract and whatever club that wants you doesn't have to pay a transfer fee so you say I want five million transfer signing on fee and I want 200 grand a week because you're getting me for free why would you then go why would you choose not to do that sign a contract with someone on less money so that your club can get a transfer fee it's not logical so I think Emily's right we just need to cut I don't know why Man United are thinking about extending it it makes no sense um marlo says have we forgotten that amram studied coaching under marino basing everything on a solid defense uh should not come as a surprise i want to talk about this marlo i also want to bring luke shore into the show because i think that'll be a very interesting conversation sancho loses value every time he plays cut ties says junkyard james i actually see it as a massive positive that jayden sancho's out of contract in the summer I actually see it as a massive positive when you end a relationship that's toxic.

21:19It's freedom, but it's freedom for us. We paid the£75 million. We've given him£250 ,000 a week. There's not a lot we can do about that. It's gone. It's history. But the future, I'm counting down the months. Literally in the summer, he's gone. At the end of June, he's gone. We pay him no more money. He's not our problem. Why would you try and extend that on a gamble that you might be able to get a transfer fee that you won't. It makes no sense. Scuba Dew is another 10. Amorim would love to play another 10 in midfield, give him some more, and he will start them in defence. No fault. More for me.

21:53He's salvage. At this point, I'd take Mark Goldbridge as director of football. He's been scouting chaos for years, says the Gold Protocol. And Nick P says he's not coming back. Why would you give up good food and hero worship to get bantered in the Premier League for being average, says Nick P. Well, you know, maybe there's some fair points there. um let me just cut that back um just going back to what marlo said though um i don't know whether to talk about luke shaw next or not um let me i want to talk about what marlo said about amrim because i do want to talk about how i think um what i think is what i think has changed over the last few weeks because i don't think it's as systematic or formational or as in depth as when people think you know i think football is very simple i think the reason you could converse with alan shearer in a conversation about football is because even though he's the premier league's top goal scorer football's really simple and anybody can have an opinion on it um i also think football tactically is quite simple um i think people like pep guardiola go very granular and try and train every every scenario and then you get people like big sam allardyce who don't really do much training at all motivate his team in the dressing room on a saturday and and say things like let's be direct let's win the second ball let's be competitive and aggressive and it can work so football's just just a very very very simple thing but um before i get into that i just want to say um there was a couple of other topical things i wanted to just very much very quickly summarize before we get into a good couple of topics um yormland yormland of um sporting has been linked to us again i think that will continue to happen uh obviously a former player of amarin a disciple of amarin system and a very good player that will be moving from from sporting in the summer i think when you talk about anderson wharton and i see a lot of people talking about anderson this morning slow sports news make sure you follow subscribe and join the united stand community because we were talking about it at eight o 'clock last night and we've moved on to other things but Anderson, Balaba, Stilla, Wharton will all be Man United targets in the summer but I would add I would add in Yulman as well because he will be leaving sporting and he is a former player of Amrim and he fits the profile age-wise he is I believe 26 but I mean he does have an Arsenal tattoo on his arm which may be unsurmountable for some but he'll be 27 in the summer so I still think he is a potential player but interestingly this morning there is conversations going on in the Manchester evening news that Manchester City are ready to enter that race as well so all I'd say about that is again it's ridiculously early to start saying we're going to sign this player we're going to sign that player I think there's a January transfer window to go and get a midfielder first then in the summer I think the Younglands the Belaybers the Whartons and etc will become you know the topic of conversation but if Man City are looking at him it just shows you what sort of a quality player he is and maybe we should be in that race.

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25:55As most of us have said, Joe Bellingham is not of interest to us either. So, you know, we're both happy there if that's true, because I don't think that that's the right sort of signing for Man United at all. And third story, which was something that Beth covered yesterday. I don't, I didn't talk about it last night. And it's not that I don't want to talk about stuff that Beth talks about on the two o 'clock show, because I think it's important that if I talk about something, Beck might want to talk about it and give her opinion and vice versa. It was the Rasmus story that Napoli might be willing to pay for Rasmus in January to get that deal done.

26:31I found it a little bit strange because they don't actually have to do it till the summer. So why would you do it earlier in January? But I think this is a positive. A lot of people talk about Ganacho, Rashford and their loan deals. we probably don't talk about the Rasmus deal enough and for one I'm absolutely ecstatic that it's going well for him because I think he was a player that you know it wasn't going well at the end of last season but you know I think his attitude and work rates and he probably was thrown under the bus a lot in his time at Manchester United so you know you look at someone like Donny van der Beek who's just never been able to resurrect his career and again I would liken van der Beek to Rasmus I think they were you know hard-working lads who wanted to do the best at Man United and van der Beek's career has just fell off a cliff he's not been able to recover whereas you know Rasmus is doing very well um in a short period of time in the Champions League in in Sevilla and for his national team so I think I think it's an intelligent move for Napoli I just I couldn't really get my head around why they'd want to activate the clause early because they'll have it's not like anyone else can come in and activate it and it's not like we can i don't know i don't know the only thing i thought was is there a scenario there's two i have a theory this is why i brought it into the new show are napoli looking to activate it early in january to give us the money early which we will like because in the summer there might be a thing like Sancho's remember like last year with Sancho we thought that Chelsea had an obligation to buy the 25 million and then we found out in March oh if you pay 5 million you don't have to do it and I'm just wondering if in fact not wondering I'm pretty certain is there a 5 million fee that Man United could pay to bring him back and keep him or is there a five million fee that man united can pay to bring him back and sell him for more than 40 million and that's what i'm thinking makes that make sense so if napoli want to pay us 40 million in january to get the rasmus deal done it can only be because there's something that allows us to maybe pay them a little bit money and sell him for more or bring him back so that maybe that's what it's to do with because£40 million for Rasmus, if you keep scoring goals in Serie A and in the Champions League, is quite cheap for a 22-year-old.

29:12So maybe that's what it's all about. I don't think we need to bring him back. I'd love it. I'd love it if he came back and scored goals and fought with Cesc. I'd absolutely love it. And maybe that's what it's part about as well. But we're a long way from that. We're a long, long way from that. But I think that might be a theory. That might be why they're doing it.

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29:44Ooh, it's not hot water today. It's actually tea. McTominay would battle Haaland for most goals as a striker, says Marlowe. Thank you very much. Do we rate Casado or Davi of Barca midfield-wise, says Eric? Yeah, but we'll never get anyone out of Barca. No point in doing that. let Sancho go for free another English player not living up to his potential this needs studying because it's not the first as David um maybe it's a cultural thing maybe English players British players are you know society wise just not hungry I don't know but then again you look at people like Declan Reiter okay um 68 % says um Ansaka you know maybe some maybe some hanging I think actually because actually you look at you look at arsenal they've got a lot of young english players that are now becoming senior english players who do absolutely fantastically well would you sign mctomney back 68 of you say no 32 of you say yes thank you very much for that right i want to talk about a couple of things here that i think are going to generate conversation that maybe they'll even roll over into the eight o 'clock show tonight um first things first i want to talk about Luke Shaw um Luke Shaw I've had a few people say to me why won't you give Luke Shaw any credit and I'm like well you might be new enough that you don't know the story around Luke Shaw um and you might be new enough to you know you might be old enough to know um Luke Shaw's been at Man United a long time um almost as long as the United stand has been a thing um In fact, maybe he has been.

31:20Maybe not. Maybe we're a year older. He has been at Man United for a long, long time. And I back Luke Shaw for a long time. People used to have a pop at him for his weight, his ability. Mourinho didn't like him. And I always felt there was a very, very good player there. And there's plenty of videos where I backed him. And I was even accused of ridiculous stuff for backing Luke Shaw. But I don't really back him anymore. and the simple reason comes down to this. I find it very difficult the way the club and he handled not being fit for seven months before the Euros, going to the Euros, not fit, only being fit for the semi-final and the final, coming back from that and then not being fit for Man United again for four or five months.

32:07I think if Paul Pogba had done that, he would have been vilified. so I don't I don't know why that was swept under the carpet by the player and the club I never understood why that was just you know that was fine to do he was not fit for Man United either side of the Euros that prioritized England over Man United and I'm sorry I put Man United before England so I always had a problem with that and it question it made me question the players dedication to the football club and it's always been an issue for me and like ever since then but he's playing well at the moment he's playing well at the moment and and and you know I've always liked him as a player I just don't appreciate people who put their country before Manchester United and I think the evidence is there of that I'm also quite dubious as to why he's not been injured since the end of last season and is playing so brilliantly at the moment Yet when I look at this last two seasons, 23-24 season, he was injured from August to November, came back and then was injured from February till June.

33:19Then last season, he was injured from August till November and then was injured from December till April. So the last two seasons, he's barely played at all. This season, he's not been injured since May and he's playing really, really well. And I'm sort of like, is it as simple that England is on the horizon and suddenly is magically fit? I just don't. Or is he going to get injured at some point very, very soon? I'll be actually on borrowed time. So I think the thing with me with Luke Shaw is that as a player, always liked him as a player. Hey, everybody. Lady Luck here. And we're celebrating America's 250th birthday.

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34:39And the prioritisation of England over Man United just makes me think, if I'm being completely honest, I wish Martinez was fit. I'd rather play Aidan Heaven. I don't look at Luke Shaw anymore and go, I just don't think Manchester, I'm sure he'd sit there and go, I love Man United, I love Man United. But for me, the whole England thing just made me sort of like go, I was a massive fan of this player. Now, when he plays well, I'll say he's playing well and that's it. I've just lost. I think I've just not fell out of love. I was never in love. But he used to be one of my favourite players. Now he's just a Man United player.

35:20And if he plays well, I'll give him credit. it but I've lost not lost what's the word um I'm not invested in Luke Shaw anymore I think that's the best word I'm not I'm just not invested in Luke Shaw I'm invested in De Ligt I'm invested in Ahmad I'm invested in Kunia and Mbermo and Lemens and Yoro and Dorgou and you know I'm even invested in Harry Maguire even though he's you know 32 you know what you're getting with Harry And although he wants to play for England, I think he gives a lot for Manchester United as well. I think with Luke Shaw, I'm just not invested in him. If he plays well, I'll give him credit, like I say.

35:58But it's not that I don't like him. It's more that I really did like him. And I just felt he let us down a little bit that season with England and injury. And it's as simple as that. And look, maybe he'll get injured next week and he'll be out for six months. But I also do think World Cup year for England, he's suddenly playing really well and fit. I'll laugh if he doesn't get picked for England in the next international break, actually. I reckon that this is all working towards that. And I think Tuchel will pick him. But yeah. Lazy Cat said you're indifferent to him. Well, I'm not indifferent to him because he's part of our best 11 at the moment.

36:40and I want him to play well and he did play well on Sunday, Saturday. But I just, he used to be one of my favourite players who I used to defend a lot. And now I think I'd just go, let him crack on. You know, if he plays well, he plays well. Personally, when Martinez is fit, I don't want him in the team anyway. Whereas I think a few years ago, I would have gone, oh, I don't know about that. I think that's a bit harsh. You know, Martinez is good, but Luke Shaw is one of my favourite players. I'm just not like that anymore. but he's going to you know in relation to Luke Shaw he is going to be here for the next two years his contract doesn't run out until the end of the 27th season so we've got two years of Luke Shaw so it's not that I'm saying get him out of our club I don't like him it's just I'm not really invested in him we've got two more years of Luke Shaw and then I think we'll move him on so you know if he can play like he did on Saturday he's a very useful experienced player and if he's fit, he's a very beautiful player.

37:36But I mean, whether you can trust the motivations of why he's fit and, you know, how long he can stay fit, that's a different conversation. I'm not going to say that, you know, he's faked injury for the last two years and only turns up for England. That'd be completely ridiculous. But motivational-wise, I think we're seeing a lot of players motivated this year, by the way. I think, you know, Marcus Rashford is motivated by going to the World Cup. um you know Kobi Mainu apparently is as well there's a lot of players this year it's a bit like being in your last year of your contract we all know that's a thing last year of your contract players suddenly start playing really really well it's proven you know the Willian effect but also if that's a thing I genuinely do think that this massive World Cup which everyone's going to be watching is a big motivator this season for a lot of players and a lot of players want to be in it um i mean i don't know i'm checking more ages here than a doorman but luke shaw is somebody i never really know how old he is um he's 30 i didn't realize he was 30 so this is his last tournament i mean how a guy who is 30 years of age and has basically missed the last three seasons with injury how he's playing week in week out i mean maybe to be fair maybe maybe maybe like mason mount only playing one game a week is is the thing um i would hazard a guess that if we were in europe luke sure would probably be injured by now because one game a week is probably the limit of his body isn't it really you play 90 minutes then you don't play 90 minutes for another week so that that's probably another theory anyway um right i want to talk about amrim now because I've had a lot of people talking about this and about why we've seen an improvement in Man United in recent weeks.

39:38And I think it's really, really simple. I've heard people talking about tweaks to the system, players, you know, being moved around differently. And I think that's bollocks actually um I really do I think that last season we saw I mean even against Grimsby the lit was like a right winger at times like we it's a 3-4-3 but it's always been adaptable um I I think the three or four things that have sort of caught my eye um with United in recent weeks goes back to Le Mennes going in goal um I think that changed a lot because it gave a platform for the team to be more confident. For the last 18 months, our goalkeeper has been a liability and that plays on everybody's head.

40:29You think about the Fulham game, we didn't concede a corner like we did against Arsenal, but they nearly scored three corners at Fulham. Maybe these people who go back and watch games and find things we apparently didn't see, maybe they should go back and watch that Fulham game because Fulham had multiple corners that they nearly scored from and obviously Arsenal did the week before. That's not happening anymore. Brighton were quite good at corners, and I know they did score one, but we defended them really well up until that point. So the goalkeeper has a big part to play in that. I think having a goalkeeper that is decent off both feet and willing to go long means that we can play a higher line.

41:13I think a higher line gets us higher up the pitch. We go higher up the pitch because we've got more confidence in the goalkeeper. And I think higher up the pitch allows us to win the ball higher up the pitch. And then we've got players that are, you know, decent when they get the ball, like Kunia, like Ahmad, like Bruno, like Mbermo. We're playing higher up the pitch because we're more confident to move up the pitch. That is leading to more consistent performance, which is leading to more consistent results. and I think familiarity is a big thing as well. This is what I mentioned at the start of the season.

41:52I think by game week 10, we were always going to be more familiar with each other because some of these players are new signings. A lot of people have left as well. And overall, I think that breeds confidence into the team. So I don't think that Amirim has tweaked a system or a formation. I just think that we are becoming more confident as we become more familiar with each other. And I think the goalkeeper specifically, we've won every game in the league since he came in. And I'm not saying Lemans is like player of the year or anything like that. I just think... Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck?

42:36Britsky, I got you. I've had so much luck on spinquest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a$30 coin pack for just$10. $10 for$30? I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. If he put Emi Martinez in goal, this would have happened. I just think the goalkeeper has given more confidence to the back line to allow them to push forward. And also enabling us to defend better, which gives you a better platform. And then the front line, which is brand new, is becoming more familiar with each other.

43:18I mean, I remember the first couple of games where Ahmad, there was people in the live chat saying Ahmad and Mbermo look like strangers. They're not combining at all. And now they're combining fantastically well. So, yeah, the more they play together, the more familiar they become and the more the results get better, the more confident they come. So, yeah, I just think it's just a gradual familiarity leading to confidence. I think some people are desperate to, probably because they were Amram out, they want to go, well, I said he needed to change it and he hasn't. But I don't think you can justify that.

43:54I don't. I don't think you can go. I said change it. He's changed it. He hasn't changed really very much at all. I mean, God, he's still playing Deleu at left wing back. I don't think the Amram outers were saying he needs to put Deleu at left wing back. he needs to keep playing Bruno and Casemiro in the midfield. I mean, I think that's a testament to how he hasn't changed much. What we're getting is familiarity amongst the players. And, you know, I think that having a goalkeeper, it's not rocket science. All summer, you all spoke about how important a goalkeeper was. And I think it's made a massive difference.

44:29I think we need to draw because I fear Lissandro won't be able to play two games a week after playing very few games in the last few years. But Lusharnio, Lusharnio, Lusharno, we're not playing two games a week. Just slow sports news, breaking news, crunching up cornflakes. We'll only be playing one game a week anyway. So when Martinez is back, he's going to need that spot.

44:51Are we back? Are we still on the way? If we are on the way back, when will we be back, in your opinion, says Adel? If we are on the way back, you won't know we're back because it'll happen gradually. we might already be back we might not be back um we're not back but we might be back and what i mean by that is that if this run continues people will say well we were back from sunderland if it doesn't continue then we're not back so we don't know we might be back we might not be back but we just got to keep winning and um it's funny i always looked at the forest and spurs games as being quite difficult, but I'm absolutely convinced we'll beat Forest on Saturday.

45:34They're in the bottom three. They're playing shit. We're playing well. I think we might do another message there. I literally think we might do two or three-nil. And then people are going to get really excited going into the Spurs game. Constantine says, do you think the return of these players could perhaps hurt the team dynamic? seems like we win more with them not in the squad. Return of what players? I don't know what players you're talking about. Are we talking Martinez or are we talking about bringing back a Sancho or a Scott McTominay? I mean, we shouldn't be bringing back any players that we've let go, really.

46:22We shouldn't be going back there. I don't think that's a good idea at all. But Martinez, I think, is a really important player for us. I mean, look, people were waxing lyrical about how Luke Shaw was stepping into the midfield like he'd invented it. This is literally what Lissandro Martinez was doing in a back four. Like, I can't wait. Well, I can't wait for Lissandro Martinez to get back. His mentality, his elite, his aggression is amazing. And he gets what it is to play football for Manchester United. He's also brilliant at stepping into the midfield. I mean, if you can do it in a back four, imagine what he'll be able to do with three centre-backs.

47:03I think it's just, can we get him back fully fit? Because if we can, I think it's going to be a huge improvement. I've said it so many times. We interviewed Rasmus at Carrington nearly two years ago, and I think Martinez was now injured, and he was just coming back. And he was like, having Martinez back is so important because the way he steps into the midfield and the passes he can play, makes us better as a team. I mean, that was two years ago in a back four. I mean, I just can't... If we can get Martínez back, I think, you know, you look at, with all due respect to Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire, Jaro, De Litt and Martínez as a three.

47:39Oh my God. I mean, I don't think you can have a more balanced three. You've got a young, quick, tall centre-back who's learning the game. You've got a dominant leader at the top of his game in the centre in De Litt. And then you've got a ball-playing left-sided, aggressive left-footed centre-back in Martinez. Lemaitre's behind him. Kunio and Mbamo, Ahmad, just need to sort the midfield out. You know, you can see the vision. I mentioned this last week. There are a lot of positives in that United side. It's been massively underachieving. If he sorts the midfield out, we could be a top four team easy.

48:19in fact i think i said when we were going for belaba and martinez i said if we get a midfielder and a goalkeeper we'll get we're fighting for top four um you know the midfield is still the area the club know it though the club know it's not as frustrating as it is that we didn't buy a midfielder and it is frustrating the club do know that like it's not like they're going we don't need a midfielder there's no value in the market they tried to get to they messed up but at least they know that's the area. A few weeks ago, I was worried Kunia would be Amrim's spare man and not used, but his skill and drive has forced him in.

48:53These players on the bench moaning about lacking of game time need to try harder, says Nick P. Thank you very much, Nick. Thank you.

49:01I'm definitely having a tea every morning in this. Seth says, hunger, passion, mentality, teamwork. Players like Sancho, Ganacho, Rashford play for fame. Now players are bleeding for the club. Maybe Ruben Amrim's aura plays a part. Seth, you know what? it's probably the most i'll give you an opinion here this is probably the most optimistic i've been since ruben amrim came in uh when he first came in there was so many people telling us about him there was so much excitement about him and i was like this could be the start of something it may well have taken a year but i feel like this is meant i feel like you could write the last year off and go this is what the first few weeks were meant to be like but he's had to knock could knock down a load of shit to get here.

49:44I think we're finally starting to see the first few weeks of Amrim a year later. Like we're actually starting to see what he's all about. And it feels like the journey starts now, which is why I said at the start of the season, I don't like the win ratio thing because so much of it is based on last season. What's his win ratio this season? I wish we could just delete last season because he was thrown into a bad situation and people like Gannaccio and Rashford that he had to deal with and Anthony he didn't get back to the January transfer window so I think all the losses from when he took the job to the Europa League final and Villa was the last game wasn't it I almost feel like they're irrelevant I think from the start of this season is where we really should be looking at win ratio And I know people aren't going to do that, but I genuinely feel that now is the time and there may be more losses to come.

50:41But my problem is if those losses come last season's win range, it's always like last season gets pumped in. And I feel like let's say if he lost to forest, that would be four losses this season, wouldn't it? And people would be going, Oh, it's terrible. But I'd be like, forget whatever plans you have this weekend, because you're staying at home and playing on SpinQuest. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get$30 coin packs for just$10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash prizes. That's at SpinQuest.com. S-P-I-N-Q-U-E-S-T dot com.

51:22SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. Is it if we go and win the next three again? I still think there's a lot of work to be done, but I feel like we're finally starting now. I feel like the start should be now, you know. Unfortunately, it can't be because it's a year down the line. But I personally feel that we're starting to see something now. When Mbouma goes to AFCON, will Bruno get pushed back into the midfield? Also, if Bruno scores his penalties, we'd be second. Are we in a false position, says Liam? Ah, no, no, no, no. I don't like this, Liam.

51:56I don't like this second part. First part, I don't know whether Bruno will go back in as a number 10 because I think Amrim really values him in the midfield. So why would you move a player out of position? Even though I think Bruno's out of position already, I think Amrim sees him as in position. As for Bruno's penalty misses and we'd be in second, I find that sort of thing laughable, Liam, because I could say, well, if Gakpo didn't hit the post twice and missed the sitter, we'd have lost to Liverpool. So we wouldn't have had the three points. So shoulda, woulda, coulda. We are where we should be.

52:25I don't think we can blame Bruno. And what if we'd bought a midfielder in the summer, where would we be? So I don't think Bruno missing two penalties is why we're not second. I think that's just, you know, idealistic. There's plenty of other scenarios that could have gone the other way and cost us. As I said, against Fulham, how many bloody free headers did they miss because we were shit on corners with Binder and Goal? I think we need Shaw because I've done that one as well. OK, great show this morning. I've overrun again, but I don't really care. Last night's eight o 'clock show was fantastic.

52:56Yesterday's morning show was overran. This morning's show's overran. um credit to you that the shows are absolutely brilliant at the moment and i'm thoroughly enjoying doing them so just again a massive shout out um it was a an amazing show last night at eight o 'clock hopefully we can replicate it again tonight it's been a brilliant show this morning i've really really enjoyed it and i've probably not covered everything i wanted to do but i think i have um so i hope you enjoyed it too uh that's back at two uh i'm back at eight i'm gonna try and do FC 26 tonight at five. Let's see. It's a busy week going on at the moment.

53:32I've just had to put back Terry's show to tomorrow because we're going to do some stuff as well. But hopefully career mode will be back at five. I'll definitely be on here at eight. Have a great day. Stay safe. Lots to discuss if you didn't watch it live. And we'll be back at eight o 'clock as well. Speak to you all in a bit. Take care.

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