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2 Nov 2025 · 33m · 13 chapters

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228: Amorim MUST Change! This Could COST Us EUROPE!

In short

Manchester United’s 2-2 draw at Nottingham Forest, focusing on Ruben Amorim’s post-match quotes and whether the team is “light-switch” inconsistent; debate over missed chances, tactics, substitutions, and what it means for European qualification.

Guests

None. The episode is hosted by Mark Goldbridge (“United Stands”); it includes listener comments/questions read aloud.

Guest/participant backgrounds

Not applicable (no named guests). Listener accounts include claims like “Amorim protecting Dorgu?” and “Mount injury issue,” but no biographical details are provided.

Key claims

Amorim must change—Deleuze/Dorgu selection is wrong (Deleuze at left wing-back limits crossing and contributed to goals); no attacking subs cost them; second-half momentum wasn’t real; tactics stayed too direct against a low-block; left side is weak and targeted.

Notable examples

Ahmad’s volley/worldie; Forest’s second-half improvement; first five minutes after halftime; specific substitutions debated (Mount, Agathe/Maynou, Xerxion for Sesko, Casemiro/Bruno for midfielders).

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Chapters

0:45

Reflections on the Draw Against Forest

Mark discusses the mixed reactions to the draw against Nottingham Forest and the need for consistent opinions from fans.

“consistently saying to Amrim outers, tell us why you're Amrim out.”
2:18

Assessing Amrim's Management Decisions

The conversation shifts to Amrim's decisions during the match and the implications for the team's performance.

“My stance this morning is massively disappointed, missed opportunity, light switch players, inconsistency again.”
4:04

Player Performance Analysis

Mark critiques the performance of specific players, highlighting Deleu's struggles and the impact on the team's strategy.

“Let's discuss what Amrim said and then we're going to get into some of your stuff.”
7:22

Tactical Observations and Suggestions

Mark shares observations on tactics and offers suggestions for improvement, particularly regarding tempo and substitutions.

“You need to back your signing and stick with your signing, but you cannot shoot Deleu in at left wing back.”
14:00

Match Reflections and Initial Thoughts

Analyzing the team's performance and strategy during the match.

“And what do we do in the first five minutes?”
14:42

Critique of Fan Reactions and Expectations

Discussing the reactions of fans and the balance between criticism and positivity.

“I mean, what we're doing in January then?”
16:52

Midfield Dynamics and Substitution Issues

Exploring the role of midfield players and the impact of substitutions.

“And also, we didn't play well yesterday.”
18:06

Analyzing Managerial Decisions and Game Context

Evaluating the manager's decisions and their alignment with team performance.

“They just have to play 10 out of 10 every game for us to win.”
21:09

Striker Dilemma and Tactical Limitations

Discussing the need for a backup striker and the tactics employed during games.

“I think the league doesn't lie unless it's the first two or three games of the season.”
23:06

Concentration and Defensive Issues

Highlighting the importance of player focus and defensive strategies.

“We have a six foot five striker and we put very little crosses into the box.”
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26:42

Injury Concerns and Team Management

Addressing the injury concerns of key players and their impact on the team.

“The second goal, I think we need to deal with it better.”
28:00

Analyzing Recent Game Performance

Discussion on player usage, performance, and potential strategies for improvement.

“Is he on the bench with an injury, but we can't really use him unless we're desperate?”
29:50

Finding Positives Amidst Challenges

Exploration of the positives in the team's performance despite difficulties.

“And if we can score two goals every game, then we will stay in around the top five because not many teams are going to score three.”
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0:01Hello everybody, good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge with your latest Manchester United news. How are you feeling this morning after the draw yesterday? Has the bubble burst slightly or is it positivity? We've got some big quotes coming in from Ruben Amrim explaining why he picks Deleuze, why he didn't make any attacking changes and why he's taking the positives from a performance yesterday that he feels last season we would have been beaten comprehensively. I think he needs to remember we lost 1-0 to Forrest last season. We didn't get battered. So, look, I don't agree with that necessarily.

0:32I don't agree with a lot of things that happened yesterday. But ultimately, I don't agree with some of the reaction because I feel a little bit betrayed by the United fan base this morning and last night because we've spent the last two weeks where we've been winning games consistently saying to Amrim outers, tell us why you're Amrim out. And no one's really said anything. The minute we lose a game, they're very vocal. Like, if you're Amrim out, that's fine. but have the courage of your conviction to talk about it when we're winning games as well because it just feels a little bit embarrassing to see some of the stuff last night about this is why I'm Amrim out just because we drew to Forest like you should be saying that when we're beating Brighton because you might have very very very valid points like some of the ones we're going to get into here but it's always difficult because of the extremities of conversation like we draw or lose Amrim out we win we're going to win the league most of us operate in between I I can see the negatives, the constructive criticism from yesterday.

1:25I can also see the positives as well. I mean, that league table sort of tells you the story. There was some Liverpool prats saying slot out last week. I mean, the third in the league now with one win. It is so congested. You've got two points separating 11th and second. So we're right in the mix. And as a little bit of a positive this morning, Spurs are atrocious. if we'd found a way to beat Forrest yesterday your man would have been getting his air cut next week because Spurs are crap so we've got nothing to fear with Spurs next week and that becomes a very big game for us now because they're fourth from bottom in the league for home form I don't know how they're fourth in the league because they're top of the league away from home of course we're playing them at Spurs so we just have to get back on the horse and ride it but there were some interesting things from Amrim yesterday and I suppose I'd pose the question that I'm a little bit confused about what we are this morning.

2:18I was massively disappointed. My stance this morning is massively disappointed, missed opportunity, light switch players, inconsistency again. Some people have reacted in a positive way by saying it's a draw. We've won our last three and we've drawn one. That's 10 points from 12. Nottingham Forest is a difficult place to go. Last season, we would have lost this game. This is progress. So I'm sort of confused as to, I sort of take that point, but also is that is yesterday not also an example of the problem we've had for years where we're just incapable of being consistent. I don't think Arsenal, Chelsea, well, Chelsea won there two weeks ago.

2:57Like if you want to be in the top four, you've got to go and beat Forrest. So I suppose the conversation really is around what are we? And we don't know. We don't know because that rollercoaster is going to keep going on. we finished 15th last year winning three games and drawing at Forest is a big step forward but some of us believe there's an opportunity to get Champions League football and that's a bit of a step back yesterday because that was a missed opportunity we'd be second in the league if we'd won that game I don't think Forest was so good that we should walk away going that was, I tell you what thank God for bloody Ahmad that worldy that is a great point on the road I don't think they were that good they're third from bottom I don't think we played that well And I think we didn't play well because of a couple of things we're going to talk about.

3:43But it can just be a drop stitch in the tapestry of the season. We can recover from this and learn from it. And I hope that that's what's going to happen because yesterday's point means nothing if we go and win next week. Yesterday's point means a lot if we go and draw or lose again next week. And I think that's where we are. The answers are yet to be given. Let's discuss what Amrim said and then we're going to get into some of your stuff. I mean, look, I've got to say in relation to Amrim, I spoke about this in the match reaction. He's got to change a couple of things, in my opinion. I've seen people saying he knows better than us a lot because he's an experienced manager.

4:20I think sometimes he doesn't know better than a fan base that watches Man United week in, week out for years. He's a fantastic coach. He's a better coach than most of us, all of us, every one of us. But he's not a better Man United fan. And what I mean by that is I think too many coaches come in and ignore the past. I've said this so many times before. Ten Hag did it. Amrim's doing it now. Mourinho did it. It's almost like I'm not going to... It's like when Jose came in. I'm not going to look at all the things that went wrong with Van Gaal. I'm here now. The ego has landed and I am in charge. And they don't...

4:54It's like... I don't know whether it's like it at other clubs, but it's like managers that come in, they refuse to acknowledge what happened before. Sort of like if I go anywhere near that, you know, so they make the same mistakes. And I think with Amirim, I mean, look, he even said it after the game. He said, if you bring on more attackers, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll play better. Deleuze had several opportunities to make crosses, but he was on his weaker foot, hence the choice of Dorgou. Masraoui is a full back, so he tried to use the players' characteristics. We have quality on the bench, but I think if I stop the match too often, it's going to break something.

5:27I think we were building momentum in the second half. I didn't want to change the guys up front. Ahmad could have done better. Sometimes we just wait for a player who's a bit off to change the match. He managed to score. So there's so much to unpick in there with Amrim. And I think there's like two big things in there that cost us yesterday. The Deleu thing is, I mean, look, I'm not interested in, you know, the pile on of an individual player. We drew a game of football, but the Deleu thing sort of baffles me a lot because he talks there about having to bring Dorgou on because Deleuze had the opportunity to put crosses in, but he can't do it because he's right-footed.

6:04But you've been putting him there for the last three weeks and he's been not very good for three weeks. Like, he was not very good against Liverpool and he was not very good against Brighton and he was not very good yesterday. That's on you as the manager. Like, that is a problem. Like, he was definitely at fault for the second goal yesterday. He could have cost us another two goals. He offers nothing going forward. He's not a particularly good right wing back, but when you put him at left wing back, You diminish his ability by 50%. That, to me, is just like playing with 10 men. And how many times have we said that over the year?

6:37I'm not piling on to Deleu. I know he's a good lad. I know he's well-liked around the club, and I know he works ridiculously hard. The question is, is he a Man United player or is he Preston North End? And I think the thing for Deleu is, he's a Portuguese international. He is a good player, but he is not a Man United starting player. And that's where I'll end it. So Amrim's insistence, I did call this a few weeks ago. I said, if you think Deleuze is not going to start a lot of games this season, you're massively misinterpreting the noise that's coming out of the club and from this manager. But you can possibly get away with shoehorning Bruno Fernandes into a position he doesn't play.

7:16But you can't shoehorn in Deleuze. And he's got to stop doing that. That's got to change. Like Dorgu is the future. He's left-footed. You've got to stick with that. You bought him. Dorgu was your signing. You need to back your signing and stick with your signing, but you cannot shoot Deleu in at left wing back. He's atrocious. He's absolutely atrocious. And Amorim himself acknowledged that by subbing him off. And then in the post-press conference saying that he can't put a cross in from that side. So that's got to change. We can't see that anymore. I'm tired of watching Man United games and seeing the chat piling on to Deleu.

7:49He is a good lad. He's not good enough to start for Man United at left wing back. and that needs to change. And if I saw something there that made me think I can understand why we're doing this, you know, for example, if you put like Luke Shaw at left wing back because you want him to keep Endoy quiet as a one-off, you can see why you'd do that. Deleuze doesn't even perform well. He got absolutely sprinted into the ground by Welbeck at Old Trafford last week and Danny Welbeck's approaching his mid-30s. So he's not a good one-on-one defender. So that needs to change. Absolutely. I also think what he said about the substitutes is a little bit weird as well.

8:28I don't want to make attacking changes because I felt if we make too many changes, we'd blunt the momentum that we had. I mean, I don't know what momentum he's talking about. I watched it again this morning. I fast forward bits of it most of the first half because the first half was just 50-50, but the second half was an interesting watch. We weren't building momentum in the second half. We weren't building momentum at all. we basically scored from two set pieces. Like Ahmad's goal is just a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant volley. No one's going to save that. And I watched that second half and I actually look at it now.

9:04I can't remember whether I said it in the match reaction or some of you did. I think we rescued a point. I don't agree with that we deserved a point. I don't think it was a draw on the balance of play. First half was quite equal. Second half, they were better. So the Ahmad goal was wondrous. It was a worldie. That wasn't momentum. We were not building momentum. I cannot understand why he didn't make any changes in the midfield or the front three because he thought we were building momentum. We were building nothing. We weren't. I think Mason Mount would have been an interesting substitute. I would have certainly changed Casemiro or Bruno for Agathe or Maynou.

9:42And as many people said, it might have been worth chucking Xerxion for Cesc. I don't understand why he didn't make those substitutions because we were so bad in the second half. And so there you go. Deleuze in the subs for me. I don't understand that. And he's got to change that because watching the game back in the second half, you know, when he said last season, we'd have lost this game by a few goals. We could have lost yesterday. So I'm a little bit confused about that because we went to Forest last year. We lost one nil. They scored early and part the bus and we just couldn't break them down.

10:14So I don't know where this whole, we'd have lost by a few goals last year. We only lost 1-0 to a team that parked the bus against us last year. So I don't know where this, we would have lost by a few goals last year. We could have lost by a few goals yesterday. When you watch that second half back, we weren't in control. We weren't building momentum and we didn't look like we were going to build momentum. And I take on board that after the worldie, Ahmad had another shot that was cleared off the line, but they had chances as well. They were better than us in the second half. And I just think that I would be saying, if I was Amrim, I'd be sat there this morning watching that back and going, okay, it's good that we got a point and you can't play well every week.

10:55I completely agree with that. And that's the positive. but it's not like we had them on the rack and they were holding on for a point at the end. We did really well to get back into that game because the momentum wasn't with us in the second half. So my concern is if he did that again in a couple of weeks at Crystal Palace and the second half and he doesn't make subs, I think someone will put... My precise point is I think we could have lost the game because of the lack of subs he made in the attacking sense yesterday. I think we sort of got away with it it's strange that he thought we had the momentum.

11:29And that comes to my third point. Stylistically, I'm fresh from watching this about half an hour ago. So stylistically, I sort of hinted at it and many of you did as well. Deitch had our number yesterday because we didn't change anything. I think the last couple of games, Brighton really stubborn and won't change. So we don't need to change. We just keep waiting for them to make mistakes and we're in. And that worked all day last weekend. Liverpool at Anfield, they don't change. They're at Anfield. They want to create chances. They want to be high up the pitch and we exploit the space. We haven't changed our tactics in the last two games because we haven't had to.

12:09Forest yesterday knew we were going to play the way, or it's suspected we were going to play the way we did against Brighton and Liverpool by being direct. We did. It didn't work and we didn't adapt. We didn't slow the game down. We didn't try and keep possession. We didn't try and gradually move up the pitch and probe and put crosses in. We kept trying to transition really quickly. And that's why in the second half, we saw Bruno and Casemiro continuing to try and hit these quick balls, which Deitch had set up for all week. and we're going to have to be a little bit more imaginative against low blocks where the direct ball isn't going to work.

12:48But we kept trying to do it yesterday. We kept trying to get Mbemo in. We kept trying. And look, I've got to say the left-hand side is so weak. It is so weak. I don't even use the word Kunya because I feel, and I've seen a few of you mention this over the last few weeks. I feel Mbamo is benefiting from a very strong right-hand side for Man United. You've got Casemiro, you've got Ahmad, Mbamo, obviously, Yoro, De Litt. It's a strong side. Down the left-hand side, you've got Luke Shaw, who was not very good in the second half. You've got Deleu, who was atrocious. You've got Bruno, who just wants to hit the long ball.

13:27There's not a lot of opportunity for Kunia to get the ball into feet down the left-hand side. The left-hand side is being neglected at the moment and I also think teams are targeting our left-hand side so that's a bit of a problem and it's a bit of a defense point for Kunja because I think Mbembe is doing really really well but Kunja we're not really getting enough out of him so look they're my three takeaways the Deleuze selection needs to stop the um the substitutions need to be better uh especially in an attacking sense and from a third point of view we need to mix it up a little bit I think yesterday in the second half, I'd have probably come out in hindsight and said, let's keep the ball a little bit.

14:03Well, 1-0 up. Let's keep the ball a bit. They've got to come on to us. Let's be patient. And what do we do in the first five minutes? We can see two goals. And I just think that's probably because we played into the whole high tempo. Let's try and break again. And we should have just been a little bit 1-0 up against Forest. They're struggling to score goals. Slow the tempo down. Don't play high tempo. Let's try to you, to me, basketball. We should have just slowed the tempo down. But have we got the players to do that? Have we got the players in the midfield to slow the tempo down and go, let's be calm?

14:34You know, the one player you want to do that is never going to do it. And, you know, but there we go. They're my thoughts on it. And as I said yesterday, I think if I'm Manu and Xerxes, I'm saying to my agent this morning, I mean, what we're doing in January then? Because if I'm not coming on in a game like that, I ain't coming on, am I? You know, I'm not going to get a chance. There was another good point I read yesterday as well I want to get into some of your comments now There was another good comment from yesterday About how the, what was it? Reuben Amorim Oh, yeah Why is it when we come out for the second half So many times over the years That we struggle Why is it that we struggle Coming out for the second half Why is it we fall asleep all the time.

15:25I don't care whether you're Burnley or Arsenal. Conceding two goals in the first five minutes of a second half when you're 1-0 up is a huge, huge problem. And this is what I mean about the people who are saying, let's take the positives. The top comment on my match reaction yesterday was about toxicity in the fan base. And whilst I do agree with it, I also think constructive criticism must never be, you know, labelled as toxic. Like, I'm a little bit confused this morning. I want the Spurs game, let's be honest. But I'm a little bit confused this morning because the positive, and you could call it toxic positivity if they're going to call you toxic for having a constructive criticism point.

16:08But my issue this morning is that, yeah, 10 points from 12, I'd have bitten your hands off four games ago for. But when you've won nine from nine and you go to Forest, I wouldn't have took a point. So it just depends about what your parameters are. What are the parameters that we're operating to? Because we're all operating at different parameters, aren't we? If you just said to me four games ago, would you take 10 points from 12? Absolutely. Absolutely. With sugar on top. But if you'd said to me before the Forest game, when I already know I've got nine from nine, would I have took a point? And I said, what?

16:40They're in the bottom Number three, they can't score goals. We're doing really well. So in the context of four games, it's a good point. In the context of the one game, I feel like it's a missed opportunity. And also, we didn't play well yesterday. So the positive people are saying, well, we didn't play well, but we got a point. And that's all that matters. It's a good point on the road against Nottingham Forest. But then I go, but aren't you the same people who are fed up of the inconsistency and the light switch? And yesterday we saw all that again. We saw the whole just literally stop playing football in the second half.

17:21You know, hanging on for a draw, really. Well, we weren't even hanging on. We needed a late equaliser. So I'm sort of like, yeah, the point's good. And in a way, you just want to bury it like a cat buries a shit and, you know, pretend that everything's rosy. But there is that nagging sense of, is that just what we are now? you know the leopards can't change their spots there'll be good games and then there'll be inexplicable games like forest in the second half and brentford because it was very much like brentford and it was away from home again wasn't it and whilst i think we're very good at home our away form is a little bit you know but look we're not going to learn loads about that we're not going to learn loads about it i think we do in a sense just have to take the learning points and move on but um let me get some of your comments in um hayder says embermo and kunya are not light switch players.

18:10They just have to play 10 out of 10 every game for us to win. No good style of play to fall back on. Is Amrin protecting Dorghu? Says Rub. I don't know. I don't know in relation to that. Do you think he was more hesitant with making subs because of what happened against Brighton? I think this is a great point by Rajaf as well. And I've seen a couple of people say that. And I think, you know, that is a valid point. You know, he made those substitutions against Brighton at Old Trafford and it went to Ratchett. Did he think, I don't want to make those changes again. But that's concerning in itself because those changes needed to be made.

18:44Like Casemiro and Bruno were declining in that second half. Sesco's game was getting worse. I'd never take Kunyurin and Bermow off anyway. But I think you make a good point, Rajaf. But that's a problem in itself because if he doesn't trust those subs, but those subs need to be made, we didn't do well in the second half. So, yeah, we could have been worse after the subs. You're right. And we could have lost the game, in which case he's right. I mean, it's a great point. And maybe it was a great point because if he makes those subs and we get worse and we lose and he doesn't make those subs and we get a point, who's right and who's wrong?

19:19And that's the thing, isn't it? But look, we should be able to make subs and be better. We need to be able to do that. Honk the Trumpet says, I'm back in Amrim's subs yesterday. Xerxes and Manu were poor when he made them against Brighton. I do think Mount should have come on those, says Honk. Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not saying we should have made three. But we should to not make any subs in the midfield in the attack in a performance that we put in in the second half yesterday. I thought was a bit disappointing. Anyway, let's have a look at some other stuff that Amrim said. He said, sometimes we can't win, but we mustn't lose.

19:51Today, I had the feeling that we wouldn't lose. And that's a good feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, let's not let's be very, very clear here. The league table doesn't look terrible. We could be eighth today if Bournemouth don't win. But the reality is I sort of agree with him and disagree with him. I think last season we would have lost that game. We would have lost it 2-1. So to turn it into a draw is a step forward. But if we want to be in the top five, it had to be a win. And I think that it's all about the parameters we're working to here. We finished 15th last year and we would have lost that game.

20:29this season we've drawn it if you want to be in the top four or five you need to win them types of games so maybe we are in that area that I predicted and some of you predicted I said will be somewhere between fifth and tenth this year and that's exactly where we are so I can't moan about a prediction that I made I also said after 10 games we need to be in touching distance of the top five and we are so my prediction of where we'd finish in the league and my hope after 10 games have both hit perfect synergy. So it's not, this is what I mean when people are going to am rim out, this, that and the other.

21:04I mean, we are exactly where I sort of hoped we would be. Touching distance of top four in between fifth and 10th. And that's where we deserve to be. I think the league doesn't lie unless it's the first two or three games of the season. So we are where we need to be. We must always point out and discuss issues, but we must always be balanced and go in the bigger context from where we've come from, of course we want to be higher. And I'm disappointed because we should be beating Forest and we should be second. But if we were second, we'd be ahead of schedule and we'd all be buzzing. The reality is whilst I'm disappointed and whilst it's missed opportunity, it is not a bad position.

21:43It is actually a good position to be in. We could have been in a better position. That would have been very exciting. But where we are now, I think it's good that we're disappointed. But in reality, it's still a good position to be in. But of course, we've now got Spurs away Everton at home and Palace away and I'd be looking at them and going there needs to be two wins and a draw out of them ideally three wins but there needs to be two wins and a draw out of them no losses and definitely two wins because we've got to stay with that knowing that December there's a few wins coming up he did speak about Xerxes he said Xerxes is a bit like Cunha in playing between the lines if you look at the match we needed a guy in the box and Sesko is the best for that.

22:28Sometimes it's a question of characteristics and the players know it. So he kept Sesko on for his movements and energy and ability in the box. I understand that. I agree with that. I don't have a problem with that. I mean, a lot of people felt that Xerxi should have come on for Sesko. I agree with Amrim. I don't think Xerxi is a number nine, but that begs the question, if you can't take Sesko off when he's having a bad game because we don't have a number nine on the bench, then we don't have a number nine. and that means that he's basically got to play a false nine and this is why we need a striker because a game like yesterday you wouldn't moan if you had Mitrovic or Ivan Toni on the bench you would be absolutely happy to bring them on so I think Amrim again the honesty is what I really like because I agree with him I don't think Xerxes is a striker I probably would have brought him on yesterday for the last 15 but he's not a striker and Amrim is saying that but we don't have a backup striker we don't have the midfielder he wanted and we clearly don't have a backup striker My only reservation I would have is what I said in the game yesterday.

23:27We have a six foot five striker and we put very little crosses into the box. In fact, multiple times people refused to put the cross in. I saw Luke Shaw do it. I saw Deleu do it. I saw Ahmad do it. Like, he's six foot five. It's not like Rasmus going up against Milenkovic and Murillo. It's a six foot five striker. If you put a good cross in, look at Volta Meda at Newcastle. like how many goals is he scoring put the crosses in i mean we're happy to put long throw-ins into the box why are we not putting crosses in you know and i think that's something we should do uh he said we lost our concentration for the first five minutes after the after the half time and we paid the price for it our energy level dropped and when that happens with those you feel it the players really tried in the past if we had been bad moments like today we could we wouldn't get back up but today it was different um yeah i mean look that's just the manager building on something that will have annoyed him because there's a contradiction there.

24:24He's basically saying, we came out in the second half, our concentration wasn't there, our energy wasn't there, but the players tried really hard to get back in the game and previously they wouldn't have got back up. I mean, I'm not going to celebrate the fact that the contradiction is they weren't switched on and they weren't concentrating and they lost the game. And then they switched back on again and they got a draw. they shouldn't be switching off in the first place but I think what Amarim's trying to do there is say look, they switched off, they lost concentration and last season they'd have stayed switched off, at least they switched back on and tried to get back in the game and that's something to build on.

25:01The question really is though why are we switching off in the first place? I mean it's not 0-0, you're not losing 1-0 you've won your last three games in a row and you're 1-0 up in your fourth game at half time I don't get why. I mean, that needs to be studied and I can't give you the answer. You've won your last three games. You're getting all the celebration. You're getting all the plaudits, quite rightly. You go to Forest. You're 1-0 up at halftime. Your three and a half games win. And then you turn off for five minutes. I don't. That mentality to me is just weird. It's a weird mentality to have.

25:40and you know this is why it worries me about keeping the experienced players around because people like Casemiro, Bruno Fernandes you know they're in the midfield they're very experienced why is that happening why are we switching off at 1-0 in a game like that for five minutes and I actually think we also need to say that tactically there was an issue there The first goal is a mismatch of Ahmad on the back post. If that's Maz Raui, Gibbs-White doesn't score that goal. So is that switching off? That's a good cross into the box that, you know, Ahmad's too small to deal with. That's the tactic. I like Ahmad at right wing back, but that will keep happening.

26:26Second goal, another battle in the box. And Deleuwe doesn't fancy a 50-50. So is it switching off or is it inadequacies in two positions? I leave that for you. But both goals were preventable. I do not blame Ahmed at all. He cannot be taller. The second goal, I think we need to deal with it better. Mark, I don't agree that we turned off for five minutes. I saw a frustrated and uninspired team from the kickoff yesterday. No one seemed to build on the good vibes from last week. I think that's an interesting point, Marlo, because the first half wasn't that good. Talk in the week of us winning in a different way.

27:00Amrim gambled on Deitch preparing for that. Instead went direct again and it backfired, says Daly. Anderson is everything we need in the midfielders party. Well, I want to talk about that on the eight o 'clock show tonight. I mean, the eight o 'clock show tonight is basically going to be how hard is it going to be to get European football? Because we'll know the Bournemouth result against Man City. Don't you find his negative approach of in-game management concerning? hoping he could show us some magic, bring players like Zerksy or a sub. Look, class of 99, I thought he was quite negative yesterday in the second half.

27:30And I thought we were, you know, we were an Ahmad Worldie hitting the post away from losing. So I just, I spoke about that at the start. I think it needs to, we needed to change how we were playing in the second half. Hi Mark, regardless of one game week like Sir Alex, you have to tweak the team, especially when playing low-endering teams, keeps the players on high alerts, says Frank. Andrew Terry welcome to members club and Taloc as well Mount 100 % has an injury issue says Robert McCormack I agree I agree Robert like Mason Mount has been starting games and Amrim loves him and then the last two games he sat on the bench not being used that makes absolutely no sense and I'm glad that you've said it Robert because I think most of us agree with this is it just we don't want to say he's injured because people are go, oh, he's injured again.

28:19Is he on the bench with an injury, but we can't really use him unless we're desperate? Because it makes no sense why Mason Mount wasn't used yesterday or against Brighton. So maybe he's injured again and maybe we're just putting him on the bench. I don't know. That sounds like a conspiracy, but it is weird. It's three points to target with Spurs. We've got to beat Spurs next week, Rajaf, and then the league looks a lot better. Blip or are we back to the post three win run says Dan Spurs it's all about Spurs next week mate um thank you very much to Honk right okay there's one more thing I wanted to bring in here now we know how to overcome the difficult moments what we have to do is stay in the games is Amrim and Amrim says United would have lost that match game last season uh we dropped two points and we should have done better it's always good to hear the manager saying that of course um and uh he spoke about Ahmad and said Ahmad has a lot of talent.

29:14We have many talented young players. He can be even better and more consistent. He has the potential to do even better. I think the positive from yesterday is that when Mbamo and Kunya don't score, Ahmad can score. The positive again from yesterday as well is that we're averaging two goals a game. And when you're averaging two goals a game, a lot of teams are going to find it difficult to beat you. And that's the positive I would take. We didn't play well yesterday, but we still scored two goals. That is a change from last year. We didn't play well yesterday, but we did score two goals. And if we can score two goals every game, then we will stay in around the top five because not many teams are going to score three.

29:58They're not. We might draw some. We might win a lot. But that's the point. And we must take that positive. I don't get the Amramout stuff. I do get the constructive criticism But we are scoring two goals a game at the moment And even if you play badly And we were bad You still come out with a result People can moan about the ball wasn't over the line For a corner You know, Ahmad's had one cleared off the line So this is the important thing Mbemo and Kunja didn't get a goal yesterday And maybe didn't have a good game Sesko didn't get a goal Didn't have a good game Bruno didn't get a goal Didn't have a good game But Casemiro gets a set piece and Ahmad gets a goal.

30:39And that's really important. When we're playing badly, getting results is still a positive. And I would end it on that. But we could have played better yesterday. I think the Deleuwe experiment's got to stop. I think he does need to trust his subs more because we were crying out for them. And I also think we need to mix up how we play. In the second half, from the first minute, I would have said, keep the ball a little bit. Let's keep the ball and frustrate them. They're going to attack us. Let's keep the ball. Let's not play basketball. back you to me, Chuckle Brothers FC. Let's keep the ball a little bit.

31:10They've got to attack and then we exploit it. And you know what? That's what Liverpool would have done. It's what Arsenal definitely would have done. And what did we do in the second half? We came out, we started hitting long balls. We were trying to be direct. And that played into Forest's hands. You know, we should have been frustrating them. The second goal should have been ours and we didn't take that chance. But we didn't lose. Right, I'm off to go and watch another match now. Let's see how that goes. I sometimes worry that when United don't get a result, Seb doesn't get a result, but we'll see how it goes.

31:39I am back with you at eight o 'clock tonight, eight o 'clock show. And thank you for all your comments as well. Get yours in. And I'm live on That's Football for Bournemouth's trip to Man City later. I never do Man City games, but I'm just hoping Bournemouth can do us a favour. Although if Bournemouth win, I was looking at it. If Bournemouth win, they would be four points ahead of us. That's not too bad. Okay, take care, everyone. Have a great day. Stay safe and try and stay positive. We can be constructive, but we can also be, we didn't lose. We scored two goals again. Spurs are atrocious. It's all about what we do next week now.

32:19Yesterday's result will be a positive result if we win next week. Yesterday's result will be a bad result if we go and lose next week. Take care, everyone. Speak to you in a bit.

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