229: Amorim DEMANDS January Transfers!

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0:33I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news at the start of another week. And we've got big conversations taking over in relation to Ruben Amirim and Ineos. Also updates on outgoings, Marcus Rashford, a couple of others and Amirim in secret talks or not so secret talks with a midfield target for Manchester United. Hello, welcome to the start of another week. We have and are unbeaten in the last four games. We have Spurs this Saturday lunchtime. It's a big game. We're working towards that. The past is the past. The future is yet to be written. Welcome to Natasha Beddingfield, if you know, you know.

1:11But we're going to start off talking about the update from Fabrizio Romano. We sort of touched on it a little bit last night, right at the end of the show, but we only got the very basics of it. There's a lot more there. basically talking about how Manchester United, Ruben Amirim, Ineos are already in discussions about the January transfer market. We'll get into that detail in a moment. But I think the first thing I would say, and you probably won't read this anywhere else, is that we actually are in a really good situation to do something in January. There are no excuses like the previous years.

1:43John Murtagh coming out and saying, we like to do our business in the summer. We're very good at business in the summer. Well, we're not. And this is going to be a really challenging summer. there's going to be a challenging summer because it's going to be a massive world cup and that will shut down the opportunity to do business by about 60 percent if you look at last summer you basically had a run at it from may until the end of august this summer you're not going to get to talk to players until probably mid-july so you're cutting down the opportunity by about well probably over 50 percent like i say also manchester united are cash rich uh some people say what are you talking about we're in debt we definitely had at least 50 million pounds to go and get the labour in the summer we just couldn't negotiate a deal we've also got Rasmus Hoyland doing very well at Napoli which is going to bring money in we've also got Marcus Rashford doing very well at Barcelona which is going to bring money in and we've got the prospect of Casemiro's wage going if we want it to and potentially even Bruno Fernandes going to Saudi if we want to so Man United okay some of those things might not be happening until the summer, but they're there and they're going to happen.

2:49And Man United therefore cannot look at January and go, we don't like doing business in January or we can't afford to do business in January. Neither of those two things wash when you think about the summer and the reduced opportunities because of the World Cup and the fact that we do have funds coming in or there to be spent in relation to the Labour's money from the summer and what's coming in from other players. So that's an interesting backdrop before we talk about anything else because i would not be surprised over the next coming days weeks that we do get some sort of nonsense coming out that it's a challenging market we haven't got any money we have to call that out because we don't so what is that for brixto romano saying so essentially what he's saying is and there's quite a few bits to get into here uh let me just uh get it for you why are you still in that room and not your kitchen put back by a week don't talk to me about it uh to be honest i'm not actually that bothered um we were meant to be a new kitchen this week and i will live stream from it when it's ready but um a couple of one thing got put back the granite kitchen surface which we're talking about last week um that got delayed till this wednesday which has meant that a lot of people didn't have to rush with like decorating and stuff so they're back this week and they can take their time on it which i think you know when you're building a project a little bit like manchester united do you want to rush and make mistakes or do you want to take your time and make sure that you can look at what you've done and go that's right you know it's a bit like playing Deleu at left wing back or playing Pogu at left wing back there's a longer term left footer there over somebody who's just not very good um anyway let's let's get into this um so look in private in private the conversations have started between Amrim and the board for the January transfer window the opportunities and what to do with the players who want to play more this is a direct quote from Fabrizio Romano so in private the conversations have started between Amram and the board for the January transfer window the opportunities that can be done and what to do with the players who want to play more so let's dissect that section first I would not say that that is encouraging breaking news let me know your thoughts I think that Manchester United starting to talk about the January transfer window in the first week of November would actually be wrong and would actually be quite concerning because we should be talking about this all the time, and I think we are.

5:05We should be looking at opportunities from last summer for January. For example, if United are looking at Ivan Toni from the Saudi League or Conor Gallagher from Atletico Madrid, then those conversations should have been happening before November, and they will be happening before November. I think what Fabrizio is talking about there is the actual conversation between Amorim the board and Ineos about what particular players we're going to move forward for, because we're not going to be sat there in the first week in November going, oh, what do you think about Conor Gallagher? Oh, what do you think about Ivan Toni?

5:40Oh, what do you think about Manu Toni? We'll have had to have shortlisted these people down. And now it's a case of whether we pursue, because you can't leave it that late. So I think those talks at the moment will be the final talks about what we're actually going to do in January. And that will of course as Fabrizio says include outgoings as well the encouraging thing about Xerxi going is you'd have to bring a forward in and the encouraging thing about Maynou being moved on is you'd have to bring a midfielder in you could argue that we can't really do either if we keep Xerxi and Maynou and I think that's the interesting topic is if we bring in a Connor Gallagher type player which I'll expand on in a minute then I think you have to move a midfielder on because I don't think we can carry five in a season where we're not even using four.

6:25So I think one would have to go. If you want to bring another striker in, then I think Xerxes would have to go. So I think it's two in, two out or one in, one out. And I think that makes a lot of sense. I sort of touched on this last night. There was a conversation after the game on Saturday between Elliot Anderson and Reuben Amorim. Some people blew this up out of proportion saying, oh, it's Amorim tapping up. Anderson. You've got to be very, very careful about this because over the years, this has happened multiple times. I mean, look, even the Lyon games with Cherki, a lot of people were like, oh, what a great opportunity this is to get Cherki to come to Man United.

7:07He actually ended up really disliking Man United after those games and we were never really in for him anyway. So just because Amrim may or may not have had a bit of a chat with Elliot Anderson doesn't mean he's going to sign for us. It's still only November as well and he's not going to be going until the summer and the way he's playing at the moment i thought you were superb against us that's not a deal that we're going to go and do in january by the way we haven't got those monies we have got money to do business in january but we haven't got the money to go and buy elliot anderson or adam wharton or belaber because those clubs are not going to want those players to go mid-season and the price tags that they're looking at if i'm forest and man united turn up and say we will give you 70 million pounds for elliot anderson and we'll do it in installments over the next four years.

7:50Nostoy and Forrest are going to go up yours. We're going to keep until the summer. And in the summer, when he's had another four months at this football club, maybe one Europa League, maybe one player of the year for us, he will be worth£80 to£90 million. And we might have a bidding war with three or four other clubs. So why would we let him go early for less money? They're not going to do it. And the same will happen with Labour. And the same will happen with Wharton. So those players are very much in the United psyche, but they're not players that we're going to be going for in January. I think we need to remove that conversation because you've then got to go, well, do we go with what we've got until the summer and risk not being in the top five?

8:31Or do we go, well, look, we need two midfielders. We'll go for an Anderson or a Belaber or whoever in the summer. But in January, we'll go for somebody that we think is better than what we've got that we can utilize over the next few years. And I think that's what United need to do because snooze you lose, certainly. So I think that the conversations that we're having will be very interesting. I mean, Bolver says we need to buy now and talk later. I think for me, we've seen Chelsea behave like this. We've seen Liverpool behave like this. And we've seen Man City behave like this in recent years when it comes to the January transfer window.

9:10They go and get business done. and, you know, look at how many players in that Man City side actually have been bought in January. I know my moves didn't start yesterday, but he was a January signing. There are others as well. I think the midfielder, is it Nico? I think he was born in January, bought in January as well. Look at Chelsea. Enzo Fernandes is a January signing. There will be others as well. So we can't neglect something that gives us an opportunity to move up the table. And I think that's, I don't like it when last night, and I haven't come to that part of it yet to get more clarity, but somebody said last night, right at the end of the show, there's a quote from Fabrizio Romano saying that Amorim doesn't want any stock gaps and essentially would rather wait.

9:57That's not actually what was said. But Man United can't operate like that. And we talk about the stubbornness of modern managers on how, and let's keep it based on United here because it does happen at other clubs. There is a stubbornness with certain modern managers where they refuse to acknowledge the story. It's like picking up a book halfway through and saying, I'm not reading the first half. I'm just going to read the second half. And you go, but there's plot development. There's character detail there that you don't know because you're only picking the book halfway through. I don't care.

10:28I'm the new manager. I don't care about the first half of the book because I didn't write it. I'm writing the second half of the book and I'll write it in my own way. Stubbornness. going into certain games playing the same way all the time stubbornness okay i'm not having players in january because i don't want risky players i'm going to wait till the summer so i can get the players i want and i can have a pre-season with them that's great that's absolutely great if you're arsenal that's absolutely great if you're el madrid it's absolutely great if you buy munich but when you're man united and you're in the middle of a fight and you're being offered refreshments and you go, no, I'll wait till the fight's over.

11:06It's foolish. There are players in January that we can get. The bar is low. The bar is low, specifically low in the midfield. There is absolutely no way that Riba Namrim can sit there and go, there are no midfielders in January that I want, so let's wait till the summer. Because there will be multiple midfielders that are available in January that are better than what we've got. And if you have to do loan to buy, you do learn to buy you have to but but we cannot ignore this january transfer window and i think this weekend probably was a good result in hindsight i've saw you know it took me 48 hours but actually talking to some of the builders this morning and stuff um who aren't united fans we're just talking about it every single one of them went well it's not a bad result is it it's a point and i was like you know what it's it's not a bad result it's what happens against spurs that matters but the positive about that result is it's a bit of a bump the worst i remember solskjaer saying this when we had that amazing start under solskjaer he was like i don't want us to lose i don't want us to lose but when we do lose we'll find out a lot about this team and we didn't lose on saturday but it's a game we should and did expect to win i expect us to win i think a lot of you did but the good thing about it is we didn't lose but also it's a bit of a reality bite and i think i think my title the match reaction was reality bite and there was a few people in the comments going how can it be a reality bite where we didn't lose it's not being so negative how can it how can it be a reality bite where we didn't lose and i'm like anything can be a reality bite if we'd won the game with a dodgy penalty it's a reality bite because we got lucky like we didn't get lucky against liverpool we didn't get lucky against underland we didn't get lucky against brighton we genuinely looked at those three wins and when we're moving in the right direction we had a reality bite on saturday because we didn't win and we didn't play well why is that a positive well a slap around the face is sometimes a wake-up call but also in relation to the transfer window you know and i know that when there's a glazer out movement and we sign a hundred million pound player there's no longer a glazer out movement when there's a glazer out movement and we win six games in a row there's no longer a glazer out movement so if we keep winning between now and january i guarantee there'll be a section of this fan base that go we don't need to buy anyone in january and then february we'll lose four games in a row and it'll be like why didn't we buy everyone in january why didn't we so i think the vast majority as i say of you are switched on people and i think you will understand that we do need to make signings in january sometimes a forest result exposes that, the need to do it.

13:52And the club are never going to sit there when they're winning games and go, we need to spend money. That's just not the way Man United is run. Whether you like Sir Jim, whether you appreciate the Glazers, I mean, who does? They won't sit there when we're winning and go, we need to spend money. They're just not like that. There are clubs that do do that, by the way. Real Madrid will win the Champions League and still want to spend money. Football is not business. Some clubs don't care whether they're winning. They still want the shiny toy they still want to keep building um look at liverpool they won the champions they nearly spent half a billion man united if we're winning they won't spend because they're business people so there is a i don't want us to be dropping points like the weekend but the positive is when we're having these conversations about signings absolutely it can be a bit of a reality bite and it can be a little bit of a we do need to do stuff and i i i'm absolutely obsessed with as buying a midfielder in January.

14:45I need two. I want a Belaber or an Anderson or a Wharton or a Stiller in the summer. But in January, I absolutely, I saw something this morning and it made me laugh. It was like, let's get Belaber and Anderson in the summer. And I'm like, we're not going to get those two players in the summer. It would be amazing to spend 200 million pounds on two midfielders, but there is a market in the summer for midfielders that other people are going to enter. we're not going to get two of the prime targets at Manchester United, especially if we don't have European football. We're going to hopefully get one.

15:18The other midfielder for me has got to be a Manu Kone, a Conor Gallagher, somebody a little bit less high profile who can come in and improve what we've got. And that player has to be acquired in January. So let's see what happens with that. Let me get into some of your comments. Please do share the video and get involved. Thanks everyone who's watching this morning. um i know um there's a little bit of debate going on in the fan base at the moment um i i just think like the weekend is gone we can over analyze we have the time to do that but saturday will come very very quickly and we didn't lose we didn't play well certain players showed what they are tigers don't uh leopards don't change their spots tigers um And they're always going to be inconsistent.

16:10But we've got to fight against that and take the positives and hopefully, you know, build on it. With Belieber's form, we've got 10 % chance. Forget the others, says Tillak. Ineos came in the first window. Yoro, De Ligt, Masraoui, etc. Revamped our defence. This summer, a whole new attack. I don't see it being out of the question for a full new midfield, says Sean. Thanks for your super chat, Sean. Hopefully, Forrest get relegated so we can get Andersons, says Maliki. There is, I mean, look, this is just my opinion. there is zero chance that West Ham and Forrest get relegated now they've got Deitch and Nuno.

16:40Obviously, West Ham don't matter to us because there's no player I'd take from them. But, you know, Anderson and Forrest won't get relegated. Do you think there's any chance of Stilla or Yulmland in January? I don't think Gallagher is good enough to improve us, says John.

16:56Before I go back to some of the stuff that Romano was saying, I think with regards to Conor Gallagher, he is divisive. We've run polls before and I think 60 % are yes and about 40 % are no. I look at Conor Gallagher and my opinion of it is this. I think that he is a player that when he was at Chelsea, I really didn't understand why Chelsea got rid of him. And I think Atletico Madrid, it hasn't necessarily worked out. but I do think that his age profile in his mid-20s, his Premier League experience, the way that he plays the game, I personally think that he would be an improvement on what we've got.

17:43I don't think that we are in a position at the moment where we can demand the very best out there. I think we've got to be selective. Look, we've been away from the top for many years now, over a decade. We've tried the shortcut many times and it doesn't work. I look at the problems that Thomas Frank is having at Spurs at the moment, and this is football to me. And this is the problem that sometimes we don't want to discuss. It's the patience, it's the right build. So you look at Brentford with Thomas Frank, and they're a better team than Spurs with Thomas Frank. Why is that? Because at Spurs, he's got better players on better wages.

18:29The reason for it is at Brentford, those players are a collective family that know their jobs and run through brick walls for the team, for the manager and each other. And they're Brentford. At Spurs, you've got internationals, highly paid players, egos. I mean, the modern footballer, stereotypically, is a bit of a knobhead. And not all of them, but some of them. And I think Spurs have got a few. And Thomas Frank is still the same manager, but he cannot create that unity. We're in this together against the odds running through brick walls because the players, even though they're better on paper, cannot be a collective like Brentford can.

19:09The power in football at the moment is not just having good players. It's putting a team together that's willing to run through brick walls 90 minutes every single week. We have that problem at Man United and Thomas Frank's got that problem at Spurs and hopefully it will continue on Saturday. So when people say we need to go and get Adam Wharton and Balaba and the very, very best. Yeah, look, I like the profiles of those players, although Balaba, again at the weekend, wasn't that good for Brighton, even though they won. It was the guy next to him who wasn't very good against us. What was his name?

19:41Ayala. You bring in, I don't know, someone like Conor Gallagher, who gives you 7 slash 7.5 a week, every week. That's going to be better than Al Midfield at the moment. Now, I'm not saying Conor Gallagher is the solution to Man United's problems, but what I like about Masraoui and De Ligt is their ability to put in a 7 out of 10 every week. And we don't have that at United. We have players that can do an eight, two fives, a seven, another five. It's up and down like a bloody graph. I think that we cannot be snobby about the sort of players that we're looking to sign. It cannot always be the 80, 60, 70 million pound signing.

20:28Sometimes it's got to be the 40 million pound signing with a proven track record of being consistent. And I think at Chelsea, Connor Gallagher was very, very consistent. I personally, as an English person, don't mind him being in a World Cup squad because I think he's the sort of player that you want in a squad. He maybe doesn't start, but certainly can do a job. And beggars can't be choosers. I just think that if you're saying to me, it's Conor Gallagher on a loan to buy in January or it's nobody, why would I take nobody? And that's where I am. It's not like I'm going, Conor Gallagher's going to change the world.

21:03It's that he will improve us in an area where we're weak. and also if it doesn't work out we might not even need to buy him anyway so and also it's not really about Conor Gallagher I've said this before and I need to repeat it again he represents the type of deal we should do in January and whether it's him or somebody else that type of deal needs to be done we cannot just wait for Elliot Anderson or Carlos Velaver in the summer we have to have a plan for something in January and it has to be somebody that improves us on what we've got in an area where we're weak. There may be four or five other Connor Gallaghers that we could go for across Europe or in the Premier League that will improve us in the midfield.

21:43Because as I said last night, the big problem we've got at the moment is you've got Casemiro, you've got Bruno, who both were very average slash poor on Saturday, and they played 90 minutes each. Bruno Fernandes is a 31-year-old number 10 playing 90 minutes in the midfield, and Casemiro is 33 with his legs gone playing 90 minutes in the midfield. You've got Agate in his mid-20s. You've got Manu, who's 20, sat there not being used when two 30-year-old midfielders are not playing well. So whatever we think about Manu and Agate, Amrim thinks this. A midfield's playing crap. They're both in their 30s.

22:22I'm still not going to bring these young lads on. They are not midfielders for us anymore. Until we're proven wrong, they are not midfielders. If you can't use either of those players in a game like Saturday, they're not trusted by Amrim. They're just not. Tell me I'm wrong. He doesn't trust those two players. Like Casemiro and Bruno, whatever you think about the first hour, and I thought they were average, but in the last half an hour, I think they were out of the game, really. And he still won't take them off. And he's got Agathe and Mainou. So we absolutely need to go to Amrim and go, you don't use Mainou and Agathe.

23:00You're always using Casemiro and Bruno you've got to make subs in the midfield who can we get in January that you're going to use that you're going to utilize that's actually going to be in your head competing with Bruno and Casemiro because Mainu and Agate clearly aren't in your head competing with those two players and that's something I think we need to look at um some good comments coming in this morning uh people forget we still need a midfielder says Nicky we need two we do need two and um I I think that we are going to be, I think that I can't predict Spurs at the weekend. And it's not the preview, so I don't have to, but I can't predict Spurs at the weekend.

23:37Everton after them at home should be a win. We're good at home. Crystal Palace away worries me. So these next three games, when you look at the way the results went at this weekend, this time last week, we think we might be, I mean, I almost need to apologize because you lot won't own it. Maybe some of you will. I said last week on two occasions, you don't need to go and find it. I said on two occasions last week, why can't we be the team that finishes second? You know, I look at the league table at the moment. I don't think we're good enough to win it. I think Arsenal are on a different level.

24:11But maybe we could do what Jose and Oli did. Maybe we could be the best of the rest. Why can't we finish second this season? I said that twice. I said it on the Monday and I said it on the Friday night show as well. Idiot. Moron. Pratt. turbo prats I mean I look that's what I look like this morning but if we beat Spurs next week and the results go our way with Liverpool and Man City we might be back there again and I might be going in a week's time why can't we finish second so football changes really quickly and I think that a week ago it looked really good because Liverpool Man City and Chelsea had lost they all win we draw and suddenly you're like oh god they're all gonna run away with the top four and we're fine for fit.

24:54Things can change really quickly in this league. We cannot, in my belief, I'm wrong on this. If I'm wrong, I want to be wrong on this. I said at the start of the season, that midfield is going to be a problem all season. And I know people want to talk about Dullo and some people want to talk about Sesko. But the number one problem I saw, and many of you saw in the summer, that we didn't solve was the midfield. The goalkeeper was a big problem, but we did do it right at the end. We are better now. but the midfield we left it we've left that donut uh with a hole in the middle and that is an area that is going to be a problem but we've got a good fixture list in december the next three games are challenging in the sense that palace away will be tough we don't know about spurs and i think we'll be evident so if we can come through the next three games and be there or thereabouts and have a good December.

25:47You're into January, you bring a midfielder in, momentum, momentum. I mean, imagine how good it would be if we do okay between now and New Year's Eve. We put ourselves in a position where we're like, I don't know, fifth, and then we go and get a midfielder. We're buzzing. And also remember that somebody said yesterday, and they made a great point, like, oh, Villa might be good in a race for fifth. Why will Villa be good in a race for fifth? Imagine Villa in March and April and May. We've been there when you've got important Europa League games. Look at what happens to your Sunday game in the Premier League when you play an important Europa League games on a Thursday.

26:26So Villa won't be getting fixed. Newcastle are nowhere near it. All the other clubs are going to have to play Europa. I think it would be criminal in a footballing sense not to go and do something in January. And I think that's what these conversations are all about. And that's where we've got to look at it. Let me just go. I just realised we've tangented off a little bit there off one comment but um there was other stuff um this was the most important bit conversations in private have taken place between amram and the board for the january transfer window amram's message to the board is that he wants players you can help today and tomorrow um which is a very interesting sort of statement isn't it he wants players that can help today and tomorrow no stop gaps then but that's a little bit that's a little bit different to the message i had late on in the eight o 'clock show last night because i think if you want players for today and tomorrow i'm okay with that because what we mean with that is is that if we go and look at grimaldo from um where does gralde play leverkusen i think is he at leverkusen gralde i'm bundesliga bridge and i'm I get confused between Frankfurt, Leverkusen and Leipzig sometimes.

27:44I think Grimaldo is at Leverkusen because he scored two freaks at three kicks again. Yeah, he's at Leverkusen. Thank you, man. If you go and get Grimaldo, very, very good left back. But he's for today, not tomorrow. Because his age is a fullback. Luke Shaw's not even 30 and he's never going to be a fullback again. So that would be a short-term thing. We have to go for players for today and tomorrow. We don't want players that are here for today. but not tomorrow and we don't want players that are here for tomorrow but not today so essentially it's a bit ageist but there is a profile of player that we need to sign and bar dorgu and yoro we've done it really sesko is a player that can play today but we'll get better tomorrow delit masrawi are for today and tomorrow because of their age profile so are kunya and so are embermo they're ready today and they're here tomorrow.

28:37And those are the signings we need to go for. Some people interpreted it last night that that means we don't need to buy players in January because January signings are stopgaps. We need to get that mentality out of our head. That's a Murtagh and Glazer thing. They always tried to dismantle the January transfer window for money. They always tried to make out the January transfer window was a desperation stopgap window. And it'd be interesting to see whether that changes over the next two months with Amirim and Eberada because United did that on purpose from a financial point of view they tried to diminish the January transfer window Murtagh used to do it used to like make out like it's a we don't like that January window it's like shopping in Poundland when we want to go to Harrods you know snobby knobheads who didn't understand football the great thing about football now is that it's still universal you united fans but you'll be aware of what's going on with liverpool so people like gap poe who are first team players for liverpool were bought in the january transfer window enzo fernandez one of chelsea's best players was bought in the january transfer window man city have done it we did it the stupid thing is we tried to diminish the january transfer window bruno fernandez was bought in the january transfer window so the january transfer window is a time where he can buy players for the now and tomorrow.

30:00I think just don't misinterpret what Romano is saying about what Amrim is wanting. He wants players for today and tomorrow. You can definitely buy players like that. Gakpo was a player for today and tomorrow for Liverpool. Mamouche is a player for today and tomorrow for Man City. Enzo Fernandes was a player for today and tomorrow for Chelsea. Conor Gallagher could be a player for today and tomorrow for Manchester United. There may be others. somebody just said what about Angelo Stiller

30:31I feel like Stiller has to fall into the category of Elliot Anderson of Carlos Balaba and Adam Wharton in the sense that he can only be bought in the summer because although there is a release clause it's really easy for Stuttgart to give him£2 million and increase that release clause I sort of look at it and go, if I was rebuilding Man United's midfield, it would be Stiller and it would be Anderson. And we're not going to do that because to do that, we've got to wait till the summer and that won't happen. We won't get too like that in the summer. Somebody's got to come in in January. So you either go, we're only going to get Anderson or we're only going to get the Labour or we're only going to get Stiller or you do something outrageous in January.

31:25Now, look, we are covering the Bundesliga a lot on That's Football. Stuttgart did sell Volta Meda right before the start of the season. So they're not a club like a Napoli that will go, we're not selling a player. They sold Volta Meda right before the start of the season. They sold him so close to the end of the transfer window that they didn't even have time to do a replacement. so Stuttgart will do a deal if it's a good deal but Angelo Stiller is such an important player for them and they are in the Europa League and they are in touching distance of the top five in the Bundesliga so you could do that deal in January but you'd have to be 100 % sure that that's the player you want and you'd have to put good money on the table I mean, look, I'd be over the moon if we went to Stille in January and Anderson in the summer.

32:23That would be brilliant. But we've got to do something in January. And also, the issue you would have with Stille and the reason it won't happen is Bruno. Stille basically does Bruno's job better than him in a midfield sense. Obviously, he's doing it in the Bundesliga. But what I'm saying is he is a midfielder who does all the passing, all the... So if you brought Stille, you'd have to drop Bruno. So we're not going to do that in January. So, yeah, I think we will end up with one out of Anderson, Stiller, Belaber and Wharton, unless we ignore the January transfer window and try and get two of them.

32:58But by doing that, what are you going to do to your season? Jacob says, is Anderson at Atalanta no longer an option? I think we spoke about this last week. Thanks for your super chat. I think with regards to Anderson at Atalanta, I don't even know how well they're doing at the moment, but he was very much a previous regime target like ten hague um and before him before hamrim so i've never heard of edis there was a couple of stories in the summer but it's not really a target i don't think anymore uh glenn c says if it was the old structure they would say we would minute with sorry glenn uh he says glenn c says if it was the old structure they would say may not get players today maybe not get players tomorrow but we'll get players soon that's a film that gone the wind or casablanca gone with the wind saint blanco says well i'll tell you what will be gone with the wind european football if we don't get him to be able to in january amram is genuinely uh state blanco says amram is genuine about cobbie being bruno's successor take the world cup talk away he probably wants the midfielders to go with not for maynew i mean saint blanco i would love you know sometimes i read a comment and i'm sure everybody who's watching live or not live is is there any of you that don't wish that statement was true before i dismantle it like is there anybody that doesn't wish this is true that mainu really does see cobi as bruno's successor and um he wants a midfielder to go with mainu and not replace him is there anybody who actually believes that because i would love to believe it absolutely love to believe it but i'm sorry i have seen no evidence that that is true absolutely none and and history shows us that it's not true saint blanco um you might be true but i think it's so unlikely i would say it's not true i don't see the behavior of amarin being about menu being the successor for bruno and the player who wants to build his midfield around because I have never seen a manager, never seen a manager, treat a player that they want to build their midfield around like this.

35:14And I'm not saying Amrim is wrong for doing this. Not at all. We're unbeaten in four games. We are getting better. But at no point in the last year has Amrim given any evidence that he rates Maynou or trusts him to build his midfield around. Conversely, Eric Ten Hag made it very obvious he wanted to build his midfield around Maynou. Meynou played most weeks under Ten Hag and was a key first-team player. In the last 12 months, Meynou struggled to get anywhere near the worst Man United side in Premier League history last season. And this season, it's even worse. He cannot get any game time. So I've seen zero evidence that Amrim sees Meynou as a midfielder that he wants to build a midfield round.

36:00Absolutely none. I'd love to be wrong and I'd love you to be right, but show me the evidence. He doesn't trust him. He doesn't trust him. He brought him on last week. Didn't bring him on this week. Barely starts him. Doesn't use him. Prefers Bruno and Casemiro over him. I just don't see it. If I look at somebody like Pep Guardiola and his treatment of people like Phil Foden in developing him, you see a lot of him. If I look at Sir Alex Ferguson and his development of Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, you see a lot of them. You look at the way Fabregas was treated at Arsenal, you see a lot of them.

36:40We don't see Maynou. So I don't see it. And this is why I completely agree with Maynou going, I want to leave. I want to go on loan. And I can't believe that because at the end of August, I was very annoyed by it. But I actually understand it. And this is the thing we don't get to know. We don't get to know what's going on behind closed doors. I don't see any evidence that he's trying to build a midfield around him. He might be setting that challenge and saying, I might build this midfield around you if you can prove that you can do it. But we don't see any evidence that he's looking to do that, in my opinion.

37:17As I said, the biggest indicator you can take from the weekend is that the midfield did not play well. I saw nobody give Casemiro and Bruno higher than an average six. and a lot of people get Bruno lower than that. You're chasing the game, you're not playing well and you still keep those two players on the pitch and you've got Mainu and Agate sat there and you don't use them. That to me, and Amram's got every right, I'm not criticising him, but he does not trust those two players. He doesn't trust them at all. Ten Hag let Alvaro leave and now we're stuck with Delos' cigar. It was the old, well, all I'm going to say about Alvaro Fernandes is that I do not want to talk about it at all because Ten Hag's not even the manager anymore.

38:04So what's the point in moaning over something that's not even here? But I remember the summer that we, well, I remember the summer and somebody said to me, it was two summers ago, they said, who do you think is going to be the breakthrough young player this year? And I said, I've got a feeling it's going to be Alvaro. I think he's going to be the breakthrough player because I think he's just got everything in his game to make that step up. Within three weeks, we'd loaned him to Benfica, well, we'd sold him to Benfica, and now he's playing at left-back for Real Madrid. And I'm not saying I'm the oracle, but I do remember saying that.

38:41And you look at it and you go, how did we miss that? I wasn't the only one that said that he looks like he's got... I mean, the thing about him as well is for a young player, he's really big. He's got the physique. He's got the speed. He's very cultured on his left foot. I mean, it's Piquet all over again. We had Gerard Piquet at Man United. We had him at Man United and we let him go to, well, he went back to Barcelona. I don't know how you misprofile that. I really don't know how you misprofile that. But, you know, Amrim's picking Deleuwe at left wing back. Why is he doing that? Ten Hag replaced De Gea with Inanna.

39:21I mean, he should be in prison. He should have got the Leverkusen job. and I you know I never really had a massive problem with Ten Hag I wanted him to do well but that Anana for De Gea thing that that that's like the police should be investigating that that's that goes beyond the football mistake so yeah we had a very good left back in our youth system that now plays for Real Madrid and we got basically no money for it uh Glenn C if it was I've done that one thank you very much um does United not always found a midfielder for Christmas says vinson i think man united owes this owes this fan base a lot more than that doesn't mean we'll get it jar bar drinks there's so much deja vu with the main new situation and what donnie went through maybe there is something for his fans to learn from the past situation yeah i um i read something this morning about the delo situation and um it was a post on x saying that this fan base always has a fall guy there's always a player that they have to abuse and um they never learn whether it's Fellaini, whether it's Harry Maguire, and now it's DeLoe.

40:25And that's why when I'm asked about DeLoe, I refuse to make it personal or anything like that because I don't think that serves a purpose. Also, I'm coming from a position where I know what DeLoe is like as a person and how hard he works at his career. Moto Casino, America's social casino. Welcome to Moto Casino, where the excitement never ends. With thousands of the hottest free-to-play social casino games, fastest payouts, and the best promotions in the industry. No tricks or gimmicks. Owned and operated in the USA. Moto Casino is a free-to-play social casino. No purchase necessary. 21 plus to play.

41:04Void or prohibited. Sign up today for a generous welcome bonus. Moto Casino, America's social casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. and he will be very aware of the feeling towards him in the fan base and that won't be a nice feeling for him so some people like to be quite blunt in the way that they you know he's talking shit get out of my club you know can't you know and all that sort of stuff i just think that he's not good enough that's the end of the car he's not good enough i don't know why amrim's using him i don't know i don't know it doesn't make any sense like there's not even a hint that he's good enough and I actually don't think he's good enough at a right wing back either so the low shouldn't be in the team but I think that we do also have to be very very switched on to the fact that as the super chat says from Jarbar drinks when it comes to Maynou a lot of us at the start of the season were sort of backing Maynou and having a little bit of an indirect to Amrin by going you know you should be building your midfield around Maynou not out of position bruno or legs have gone casimero um but we don't know what goes on behind closed doors and we can only we can own a lot of the time we're right don't pick anana he's rubbish oh we're out the carabao cup told you so prat man flying through the airy shit don't put the lower left wing back he'll cost us goals and games oh look we've drawn to forest so we are right we're not it's not like we're exclusively wrong a lot of what we know is right but not everything and in fairness I think if Maynou was given the starts that Bruno's been given, then we would see a different Man United side.

42:49I think we'd be better in possession. I think we'd feed Kunja into feet. But Amrind's chosen not to do that. And in the minutes we've seen from Maynou, I don't think we're missing anything. My only complaint is I think Maynou should have been given a run in the team ahead of Bruno Fernandes, who's not a midfielder. but in the fullness of time i think amram's been proven right um my only issue is i think you've got to let maynew go it's not fair on him you know he he is entitled to a career that you're not giving him over 12 months but yeah i think you make a good point like um as time passes by it's becoming more and more clear that we can't just leave maynew sat on the bench and we're not going to give him minutes because the manager doesn't trust him so um maybe maynew hasn't reacted very well to being not allowed to go in august um and wants to go in january uh maybe amrim didn't react very well to the stories coming out that he wanted to go in the final week we don't know what's going on behind closed doors but what's not going on is maynew forcing his way into the team um how can they prove their worth when he won't give them a chance as class of 99 so frustrating to see when managers act like this not a good trait um says class of 99 um would you rather loan or buy a profile like conor gallagher in january our signing should be starting quality and he may not be in six months to a year says james um i think look look conor gallagher in a way represents something to me it doesn't necessarily represent conor gallagher it's a january midfield signing that can come in and uh challenge and be an important player for us so that to me is sort of like what i'm looking at when i look at conor gallagher um it doesn't have to be him but what i would say with regards to what you're saying there is that you know you're sort of like saying conor gallagher's a stop gap um i don't see it like that i think if If we went and got him, he is 25.

44:52And I think a game like Forest at the weekend, he might have started Conor Gallagher and not started Casemiro. I think he certainly would have brought him on with half an hour to go. So straight away, you're getting more than you're getting from Agathe and Mainou. On top of that, if that midfielder then helps us get to Europe next season, instead of having a week off between Spurs, we've got another 10 to 15 games where players like that will play. So don't always think about starter. I think every player you buy should be somebody that can challenge for the first team. But not everybody will start for the first team.

45:28So someone like Connor Gallagher that I think could start ahead of Casemiro, but also will come on for Casemiro with half an hour to go, is better than what we've got with Maino and Agate at the moment. And if we get European football because of that, which we should, we'll have more games anywhere anyway with more rotation. I mean, what would we do this season if we were in the Champions League? with that midfield, what would we do? Would we be being embarrassed? You know, somebody said this the other day in the chat. Great comment. If we'd have qualified, if we'd have beaten Spurs, but we'd had the same summer transfer window, and that's debatable whether we would or we wouldn't.

46:04We still spent quite a lot of money. Let's imagine we beat Spurs and we're in the Champions League. What would we be doing this season with that midfield? Like, you can't play Casemiro and Bruno twice a week. so you would have to use Agate and Mainu and would that work? Would we be better by utilising them? I mean, I'm not saying we'd be worse or better but what I'm saying is if on Wednesday night we were playing whoever Spurs are playing and then we play Spurs at the weekend would we win on Wednesday and win on Sunday? Would it be worse? I think there's a case to say both. I think if Mainu and Agate were being trusted to start games more often would they be better players?

46:46Probably. I don't know. I certainly think we need more games. We've got too many players. But I go back to what I say. I don't think Amrion trusts Maino and Agate. And I think that is not up for debate. Just on outgoings, discussions have started with regards to players leaving in January. uh players outgoing are a big topic with Roma also being interested in Xerxi um Ruben Amrim has made it clear that he does not want short-term signings he wants players who can be in the squad for the long term which I've already discussed is there uh as well so look um there's a sense of boredom around I was talking to Beth about this last week she was going to do a show leading on Xerxi and I said please don't she was like why I said you're so boring um you're so boring to talk about Xerxi because like you know he's not playing and surely he wants to play so I don't know I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't know I don't know I think we're in this we're in this permanent state of um roller coaster ride at Man United you know one week we're really excited the next week we're like reality but what what's the most consistent thing at Man United is certain players are not getting game time and they've got every right to knock on the door and if we can move Xerxes on in January then we have to bring a forward in and we've just spent a long time talking about the midfield because I think it's the most important area of the pitch for Manchester United in a first team sense but there are there are those of you out there that are a little bit worried about Sesco and what I would concede is I think Sesco would be better with a little bit of competition which which funnily enough is what what rasmus wanted to be like rasmus initially did not want to leave man united and was content to be the backup striker challenging sesko believing that he could challenge him united decided against that so funnily enough we don't we now we do now need to do that uh kai says thinking gallagher will bench casimiro is laughable i'm glad you're having a laugh on a monday morning mate but you need to grow up and realize that you're not the Oracle and your opinion doesn't matter any more than mine and mine no more than yours.

49:07I don't think it's laughable that Connor Gallagher could bench Casemiro because I actually don't think Casemiro's as good as you think he is. I watched the game on Saturday, maybe you didn't, and our brilliant midfield of Bruno and Casemiro got absolutely dominated by Nottingham Forest's midfield. So you can laugh all you like, pal, but I don't think our midfield's any good. And if you think Conor Gallagher can't bench Casemiro, then I think you need to watch a little bit more football. I'm not saying he would bench him, but we do need to bring a midfielder in in January that can challenge our midfield.

49:43And I don't think it's much of a challenge. I really don't. And I watched that on Saturday. I don't think it's much of a challenge. I think we've got two midfielders who get the ball and get rid of it as quick as they can, pumping a long ball, trying to win set pieces where they're good at them. But we get run through all the fucking time. Every bloody game. Don't you think it's unfair to not give Maynou and Xerxes minutes as class of 99? I think it was a bit harsh on Saturday, but the manager must manage. You know, I don't have a problem with a manager making that. The biggest problem at United is not having the ability to pick the players that you want to pick.

50:22Having a manager with the luxury to be picking players that we think should be picked, I think, is a positive. The manager must always manage. If they lose their job because of things like that, then there can be no complaints. I think sometimes you look at it and go, they're getting the sack because they've not really been backed. I'll never have a problem with the manager picking players, benching players I think should start, because that's a luxury that they choose to take. Not enough games. We need injuries for Kobe to play. Kobe to play, says Tiao. um thank you very much there we go okay um appreciate your comments this morning good conversation feels like a a good morning show um don't forget um beth's back at two uh reviewing the weekend and all that um look i get the fact that some of you don't like conor gallagher but what you're not doing because you have an inability to do it is in the question of would you bring Conor Gallagher in in January or nobody you're just going Conor Gallagher shit and I understand that most of you have the ability to use your brain and some people do not have the ability because you're so lost on not rating Conor Gallagher the point is Conor Gallagher can represent whatever you want it could be another midfielder in January the point is we need to sign a player in January we can't wait till the summer and the point is we can't go I'd rather have nobody than that so that's where i'm coming from you can go i don't rate conor gallagher but you're not answering the question are you we need a midfielder in january we won't get anderson we won't get stiller we won't get belabor and we won't get wharton so we need a solution in january because if we don't we'll see more games like the weekend where our midfield is absolutely shit and the manager doesn't trust the guard say or may need to change it thank you um thanks everyone for watching this morning uh please do smash a like on the video we i'm back on the show at eight o 'clock lovely eight o 'clock shows um we've got a two o 'clock show for you as well i'm just about to drop a video on that's football which i thought i'd scheduled but i haven't either so thank you very much for that um trevor says agate is miles better than gallagher and that's when i decide about enough internet for the day because you're trevor you're not the manager of man united and Ruben Amrim doesn't agree with you.

52:44And until you get the job, your comment is completely and utterly your opinion, but it's not definitive that we all go, Trevor's right, let's leave it. He doesn't want to use Agate. He doesn't want to use Agate. So we've got to bring in a player in January that he wants to use. And I've spent the last two shows trying to explain this point to people, but they don't want to listen because they just want to listen to this. You're not the manager, he doesn't trust Maino and Agate. So we have to bring a player in, in January, that he does trust. Because we can't keep using Casemiro and Bruno for 90 minutes every bloody week, which is what he's doing at the moment.

53:22We have to bring a midfielder in, in January. And we're not going to get one of the big players. So we've got to find somebody like a Conor Gallagher, where Amirim goes, I like him. And then we bring him in, and he gets used. Because he ain't using Agate and meaning it's as simple as that thanks everyone for watching take care stay safe and i will speak to you later