232: Šeško SLAMMED Again! Amorim's CLEAR OUT Risk!

0:00Good morning and welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news as Benjamin Seško is slammed in the media again. Also, United slammed in relation to their treatment of Zirkzee by an ex, well, a current Dutch legend. He's an ex-player, but he's a current Dutch legend. We'll talk about that. Is there also a big risk around Rúben Amorim's clear out that if this all goes wrong, these players are gone? i.e. I'm talking about Alvaro Fernandes Carreras at Real Madrid, currently looking like one of the best left-backs in the world. He was a Man United player.

0:36David de Gea, we were spock him out for Inanna. So, look, we want to talk about that because there's more reports coming out from Europe today that Manu is getting closer to a move to Napoli, where Man United may well be willing to give an obligation to buy as well. Could that be a big mistake? We're also going to talk about Barcelona's concerns over Rashford and whether they can actually afford him. Maybe Man United should be pushing him elsewhere because he's having a good season. I've got the latest on Elliot Anderson too. I've got comments from LeMens. What could happen with Shea Lacey over the next or over the AFCON?

1:08Is Amrin preparing him for a place in the first team in December? And also a big, big, big glow up on a current midfielder from an ex-Man United legend. Lots to get into this morning. It's the start of the weekend. It's gone quite quick again, hasn't it? The weekend starts on Thursday on the United Stand because we have our live eight o 'clock preview for Spurs tonight, every Thursday at eight o 'clock. We've also got Amrim's press conference, which is on a Thursday again today at half past one, my morning show. The weekend starts here. I hope you're all feeling very, very positive. As always, get your comments in.

1:41So let's start off here with, look, some of you might actually agree with this. I don't agree with this. I think it's very, very harsh. um i just need to get it up on the screen for you so um effectively there was a comment that came in from troy deeney yesterday about sesco that some of you may have already seen now it's sort of hot on the heels of a bit of criticism from uh our live chat on saturday actually there's a lot of people giving sesco a lot of stick on the on the forest watch along last saturday obviously gary neville said that the uh the jury is still out which i thought was a very tame assessment of the situation you might not agree with this so Troy Deeney said um Sesko is too lightweight at Manchester United he looks like a baby giraffe I'm looking at him he scored two goals before the international break in back-to-back games and I was like okay you're going to have an international break and then come back full of confidence I'm not talking about scoring because strikers go through spells where they don't score unless you're early in Ireland but for most normal people you go through little breaks but I don't see what he does he's six foot four honestly I piss stronger than him at times.

2:50He doesn't run over people. He's always on his heels. You've got Kunjan and Bermot trying to play off him. If they need him to come short, he runs in behind. If they need him to run in behind, he comes short. He's never on the same wavelength as the rest of the team. So look, I'm not saying that, you know, Troy didn't ever play for Manchester United. I'm sure a lot of you don't really think a lot of his opinions. My point is here is that this is how um an opinion can snowball and i've seen it with yorkeraz and i've seen it with verts and there is this um confusion in the mainstream as they try to cross over into fan content that they think that this is the sort of thing that you know gives you growth and and views etc and as somebody who's done this for 10 years it isn't that that's not what it is people think it is because they'll see a little clip of me on tiktok going mad that's during a watch along it's such a miniscule part of what we've bought you know and when i when i see things of and i say we when we go viral the pink boots or you know harder than a wedding night dick or you know burying a is panicking like a cat trying to bury a poo on a marble floor these are the things that go viral but that's not what the united stand is that's not why people choose it tune in three times a day it's for the 99.9 percent of the conversation and debates where we're not doing that but they look at it and go oh i've got to say something controversial um and i think with sesco what gary neville said i didn't have a problem with the jury is out on him let's see what he can do as it is with verse as it is with jokeres as it is with prim pong as it is with lamens as it is with any player that's come into the premier league and has only been here for three months but when i see things like you know i don't see what he does um he doesn't track back he doesn't do this he doesn't do that then that to becomes like you know he's a baby giraffe and this that and the other i think it's just way way way way way too soon it's too soon and um i think that you know we've got to be very very careful here as to how we assess things because i i do i think it's just too early and look if croy deany wants to say that or Tim Sherwood or Jamie Radnatt, whatever.

5:05They're entitled to say what they want, but I don't think it helps a young player new to the system who has got a lot to learn at Manchester United and I feel like it doesn't help. Now, we're used to noise at Manchester United, but I look at Sesco and I answer it in this way. When I look at Sesco, I see a player that we haven't got used to delivering yet. You know, we can't deliver for Sesco. We're not putting crosses into the box. As Cloydini says, he's six foot five. Many of us have said it as well. He's occupying the defenders, as Jason Wilcox says and Rod Kelly said there. when I watch Manchester United I don't look at Sesco and go he looks like a baby giraffe when Kunjan Invermo wants him to lay it off he's running in behind and vice versa I don't see that I see a player that is playing in a role that for the last six years has been a graveyard shift and the brilliance of this community is that we're live every game and we have been for years and we talk about things and there's a running theme and the graveyard shift started six years ago we we're talking about Anthony Martial.

6:21It's a graveyard shift to play up front for Manchester United. And Cesco is still in that. We haven't changed that. We're not used to playing to a striker. We're not putting crosses into the box. We're probably not putting the ball quick enough into certain areas. You saw Rasmus go to Napoli and score those two goals very, very quickly with De Bruyne playing the ball quickly. You don't get that type of ball from Bruno. You don't get that type of ball from the flank so this is a this is a long-term project and it's also a project that's going to take time and i think anybody that's going you know he's a busted flush or you know he's not he's too lightweight for the premier league etc i think that's misprofiling the player i think there is you know good games and bad games and you'd expect that but we look he'll be fine in this fan base if there's one thing about this fan base we're very good at is protecting our players but I think we've just got to be wary.

7:13It's very rarely that we talk about Troy Deeney saying something. It's more about the movement towards Sesco. I sense there's a snowball effect where people are starting to see an opportunity to get at Man United. We're unbeaten in four games. You can't have a pop at Amrim, so let's start having a go at the players. And I'm happy with Sesco, but I think we do need to be very realistic about what we're talking about here as well. from one ex-player to another, we have a conversation from well, I wanted to pose this question here as well, let me just get into a couple of your comments before, Sesko is a baller, just give him service, says JK he will come good, says Ross John United says, honestly, the Sesko analysis is way over the top, we need to protect young high potential players and actually give them a chance to succeed, look I have total faith in this fan base there are morons in it but there are morons in society the vast majority of people know that there is a massive level of hypocrisy if you start taking a pop at Dorgou and Sesco and Lemens and any other young player and then say we need to be patient and give our young players a place to nurture and develop the reason we can't replicate the class of 92 is mainly because they were brilliant brilliant players but also it'd be very interesting to drop a young Beckham or a young skulls into this united side i don't know that whether they go on to be as good i don't know because the environment they came into they had goats around them to look after them you know cantonars roy keane's we don't have that now um so it's harder it's harder for a sesgo it's harder for a menu it's harder for a dogoo because they don't have those players around them and i think when you look at manchester united why would a man united fan listen to somebody criticising criticizing sesco or doggy or anybody else when in reality um we have to give them that opportunity and and i don't think we are by slagging them off um you know i saw it look i'm not having a pop at troy dini or gary neville or anybody because on our watch along on saturday i could see people going benjamin tesco and a lot worse part of that i laugh at because it's banter even though i don't agree with it but also there is a massive amount of impatience in this fan base where you get the shiny new toy it doesn't score 50 goals in the first 10 games and it's suddenly shit um but look i i do agree i think we've got to uh as ahmed said sesco will show up give him a few more months to form a connection with the attacking midfielders look the thing about sesco is that he has been misprofiled i've got a lot to get through this morning but i do want to say this the one thing um red red since 99 says tesco does need to come out the team market well eight o 'clock show headline you sort of get yourself ready for that later because i'm not talking about it here does amram drop sesco against spurs because i think there's a big chance but that's part of the eight o 'clock show so we'll leave that there but i think with regards to sesco the one thing i would say is that he wasn't prolific at leipzig he wasn't prolific at Leipzig.

10:24That was one of the things that we all spoke about in the summer. He wasn't prolific at Leipzig. He was a handful at Leipzig and he scored a few good goals at Leipzig and he was a good player at Leipzig, but he wasn't prolific. So this, you know, at Dortmund and Salzburg, Haaland was prolific. So this whole Sesko needs to be scoring every week. Well, he wasn't doing that at his previous club. He has potential, he has a brilliant mentality and he's going to work really really hard but you know what if sesco succeeds at manchester united or if sesco fails at manchester united i think i can visually give you my opinion on sesco on one clip and i mentioned it to the other day it was when we're going to sign him and there was that clip of the cross coming in and how high he leaps and if we're not going to put crosses into the box for a player that can leap that high then why the fucking hell did we buy him and i think it comes down to that if we're not going to put crosses into the box then why did we buy him because he's not prolific anyway but what he is is very good in the air and if we're not going to put those crosses in what was the bloody point i look at volta madea at newcastle and look newcastle aren't tearing up trees good result in the champions league last night but in the premier league they're struggling how many goals has he scored with his head already and he's not as good in the air as sesco so that's that to me is when i look at sesco i see everybody in the summer going look at how big he can how high you can jump and then I'm like we may as well have you know Bilbo Baggins up front at the moment because we're not actually utilizing that but you know it has worked the long ball to Chelsea the flick onto Mbamo the sending off of Sanchez it's not just crosses you've got to play to his strengths but I like Sesko but I absolutely like Dorgou I think this is a work in progress and if you're not ready for that then it's going to be a problem also look at Rasmus it didn't work as a work in progress was a work in progress the right striker for Man United was a work in progress what Amrim wanted you look at the profile of Jokeres in his mid-20s or Ollie Watkins who's 29 or Osserman who's mid-20s yes we approached the lap young yes we approached Eketike young but you know why was there such a in the summer transfer window why was there such a contrast some of the strikers we went for were experienced and some of them were inexperienced so who was driving what or did they not care were they not bothered about the age i don't know i don't know um talking about strikers i found this quite interesting uh this morning um let me bring this in because from troy deeney to rude hullet i mean look who's the better player but but he was talking about Xerxi and I found this quite interesting because it sort of fits in with a couple of uh couple of things as well um well this is look this is what Teddy Sheringham said about Sesco as well former man United forward Teddy Sheringham believes Arsenal's decision to sign Jochores was shrewder than the Reds decision to buy Sesco here we go again there was plenty of focus of uh the players blah blah blah he said uh Sesco and Jochores were both up for transfers coming into the Premier League and there was a question of who is going to end up with which striker.

13:38I would say in this moment in time, Arsenal look like they've got the better centre-forward. I'm not saying it's going to be the end result, but I definitely think Jokeres has settled into Arsenal's way of playing easier than Cesc at United. Again, look, I'm not here to dismiss what is being said there by Teddy Sheringham, but what I would say is that it was only two weeks ago that we had... I don't think it was even two weeks ago. It might have been last week, last Friday, where I think it was on Beth's show. Everyone was saying we dodged the bullet, not getting Jokeres and getting Sesco. And this is the thing that I find quite tough, is that it's exhausting.

14:23Life's exhausting anyway. I think back to the 90s, and I'm not going to take you down history, but you get up in the morning, you don't have a phone, you get on the bus to work you get to work you have a chat you do your work you go out at lunch time for a pint you have a chat you do some more work then you go for a few pints afterwards then you go home you watch a film your communication is just at a slower pace we live in such a fast paced environment now you know every you're taking on information all the time it's very hard to retain it your phone's buzzing you know but it is it is you know that's the world we live in now And I think that relates to football in the sense that, you know, last week it was like we've dodged a bullet getting Sesco over Jokeres.

15:05And this week it's like Arsenal dodged a bullet getting Jokeres over Sesco. And next week, you know, Sesco scores a hat-trick against Spurs. Jokeres is injured. So we dodged the bullet again. The reality is, and Teddy Sheringham does say one thing, at the moment you might think Jokeres is better than Sesco. I always did. Even when people were saying he looks crap, I always thought Jokeres was the better deal. and I think Arsenal did do the better deal. But it doesn't mean in a year's time we won't have done the better deal. And I think that's where we have to remember here. We shouldn't be judging Cesco against Jokeres because they're two very different profiles of player.

15:37One's young, potential, project, and the other has to deliver now. Jokeres has to deliver now. Cesco doesn't have to deliver now. That's the big difference. Cesco's assists from Bermot were solid. Does it really matter who the goals come from, says Paul? No. I had this chat with Robbie last week on win, lose or draw. And I was actually defending Jokeres. I said, I wouldn't give a shit if Jokeres has one goal or 10. Where are Arsenal in the league and are they playing well? Obviously, I think Jokeres will want to score more goals and maybe some Arsenal fans are wanting to score more goals. But if I'm the team and Arteta, I'm like, we're winning games.

16:14I don't give a shit. So it's a very good point you make there, Paul. But anyway, look, just to talk about Xerxe very, very quickly. we've got a comment here from Rude Hullet, who says that Manchester United's striker, Joshua Zerksi, should return to Italy ASAP. He said, I think from my point of view, he should have stayed in Italy anyway because he was really doing well at Bologna. And I was hoping that he would go to Milan. I think as soon as he went to Manchester United, it was the wrong decision. A lot of players move to Man United. It's been the wrong decision. And whoever leaves them plays well everywhere around Europe.

16:50I just hope that there's a solution for Zerksi. go back to Italy on loan, play football. He's a good player, but at the moment, it's difficult at Man United. They've had a bit of form in the last couple of weeks, and I hope Man United, that they can continue that because a good Man United side is good for the Premier League as well. But, you know, Dutch legend, footballing legend there, Ruud Hullit, basically saying that Xerxes made a mistake not going to Milan and coming to Manchester United. And look, I think that's a mistake that we can't hold against um we can't hold that mistake against amarin because he didn't sign zerksey and i don't know who i don't know who who look i think i think it's right i think zerksey probably should have looked at that better but i don't the reason i bring zerksey in is because there's a story just come in that severe are looking for him in in january as well there's not going to be a shortage of takers for Xerxe, but this needs to happen.

17:49I was reluctant to sort of make this statement in the summer because there was a lot of positivity around Xerxe. He'd been injured at the end of the season. He'd actually done well between January and the injury. We saw all the US tour stuff. He was there with the camera phone for Snapdragon doing all the promotion. Looks like he was a really valuable member of the squad. Everybody liked him. I don't think that's changed, but I felt it was the wrong some people were saying we should be getting rid of Zerxi in the summer and you've been proven right but I felt it was too early to do that because I felt the indication was that he was actually quite valued at the club and that you know he seemed to be well liked he seemed to be very very happy what we've seen is that Amram doesn't value him at all like he doesn't value him at all there's more than opportunity to use Zerxi and he doesn't do it so whether you like it at Man United whether your teammates like you or not he does need to get out probably more than Manu Manu's 20 Manu's from the youth.

18:46Xerxes not. So I think Xerxes does need to get himself out as soon as possible. Whether it was a mistake to sign for Manchester United, I think circumstantially it's difficult. I don't feel it was the striker that United wanted. Anyway, I don't think Ten Hag particularly wanted him. I don't think the club particularly wanted him. I think they needed a striker and that was the best they could get. He's had a few injuries. We've had a change of manager. And yeah, I agree with Hullet on that one. I think he's got to get out ASAP for his own career. But what I would say is, and just to hit Maynou into this, is that a story coming in from Sky Italy or Sky Germany or something like that this morning that a move to Napoli is getting closer and closer for Kabi Maynou and that Manchester United would also be looking to potentially put an obligation to buy into that.

19:43Now, that's probably going to cause a bit of a meltdown in the chat this morning. But, I mean, it doesn't necessarily surprise me. And obviously, we're still, what, five, six weeks away from this being that potentially happening. But once the internationals break out of the way, we're going to be on a fast track to January. There's actually a lot of games going on between December and January, and we've got the AFCON coming as well. So all this is coming on the horizon, and it's all going to come to a head very, very quickly. I just wonder, like, if you're Maynou, do you fall into the trap of, oh, it's the AFCON, I might get a few minutes here, but when everyone's back, I'm back where I was?

20:20Or do you just go, no, I want to go? That's going to be a big, big key. um also very very importantly is if conversations about an obligation to buy come in that becomes i mean look i'll be very very clear here there is no way back for rashford or rasmus at manchester united even if they score even if they both compete for the ballon door that they're not coming back to man united because when the club put an obligation to buy in there that's basically them saying well you don't want them back you know you're not part of our plans and if they're not part of the plans that means they're not part of the manager plans so the minute menu goes somewhere with an obligation to buy is the minute we understand for definite that the club ie amarin do not want menu to be part of it so i would expect you know if he does go on loan with an obligation to buy that's basically it unless amarin gets the sack now my problem with that is that and i'm sure a lot of people will agree is that i just don't feel Mainu's ever really been given a chance by Amarin and and I don't think 20 minute cameos here and there or starting against Grimsby is a chance I really don't when you compare it to the chances that Bruno's been given or Luke Shaw's been given or Casemiro's been given or Deleuze's been given so I'd be quite you know annoyed if we let Mainu go with an obligation to buy because that's basically a big indicator that you know Amarin doesn't rate him and then I sort of wander towards some of the mistakes Ten Hag had made, who I backed.

21:51I backed Ten Hag. Even when the Ronaldo interview happened, I was like, I backed the manager and I backed the club over Ronaldo because that's player FC and I do like Ronaldo, but Man United comes first and Ronaldo's basically doing a big, massive interview that's for himself. It's not for Manchester United. So I will always back the club and I will always try and back a manager. But where you've got to be very, very careful is, is that when you look at Ten Hag, however the Ronaldo situation was handled, and I don't really remember how the Ronaldo situation went. I don't know whether it's because Ronaldo wanted to go and the club decided to keep him or because Ronaldo wanted to stay and the club tried to get rid of him.

22:31I can't remember what happened there, but the reality is Ronaldo got proved right, didn't he? The reality is that Ten Hag decided he wanted to get rid of De Gea, and a lot of you backed it. oh, we need a ball-playing goalkeeper. And some of us were saying, this is the guy who's won the Golden Glove. This is the guy who knows this club. This is a guy that saved us literally loads of times. He knows the league. He knows the club. That's a very big thing to go, I'm going to get rid of it when we've just finished in the top four and won the Carabao Cup. It's a very, very big thing to get rid of. And some people are like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

23:11We need a ball-playing goalkeeper. So I'm not ridiculing Ten Hag for this because actually it serves a point. Ten Hag didn't go and do decisions that everybody was like, absolutely don't do it. Absolutely don't do it. The Ronaldo thing, I remember at the time, some people were like, yeah, get rid of Ronaldo. And the De Gea thing, a lot of people were like, get rid of De Gea. And then obviously we've had Carreras, Alvaro Fernandes, whatever he gets called, letting him go and now he's starting for Real Madrid as a left back at the top of La Liga and in the Champions League so you look at Ten Hag and there's three big things there Ronaldo de Gea at Eres and there's probably other stuff as well we backed the club backed him on it and they're huge mistakes the trouble with backing a manager is I really do think you do need to back a manager but also sometimes you can back a manager to the detriment of the club.

24:10So what I'm saying is if we did remove Maynou and then in a year's time Amram's sacked and Maynou's gone, you can't go back. And that's just my warning about it. I just think that if Amram wants to get rid of Maynou and Amram wants to get rid of this player and Amram wants to get rid of that player and you're convinced that you're going to have this manager for five years, it really won't matter because you will go through the cycle of distant memory. Look at Ganacho. Ganacho does not look like a risk at all, does it? Maybe he will do in six months, but at the moment it doesn't. But if you're going to make these big calls, you better be bloody damn sure that you've got the right guy because we won't get him back.

24:49We won't be getting Mani back if he's not the right guy and we let him go. So yeah, I think that's one to certainly keep an eye on as well. Just on the midfield, Elliot Anderson, a few people talking about that. I've got so much to go through this morning. We've still got to talk about Lacey. lamenz has been speaking uh there's a little bit around brashford as well but elliot anderson uh lots of stuff yesterday uh what's the situation with him

25:17with regards to um a january move because i think a lot of people were hinting at that um please do share the video by the way and smash a like on the video thanks for everybody last night with the camera wars i'm hoping to sort it out for the well i better play sort out the preview later um i'm actually up in here not because i need to be today i could be down in my studio but i'm actually up in here today because my camera broke last night so i've just reverted to something that i'm used to um so with elliot anderson there's a few stories going around about a january transfer and um whether man united would go from in january it feels like with Elliot Anderson at the moment, he is the number one midfield target.

26:00So I think that's fair to understand. I would also say that do Manchester United want Elliot Anderson in January? Manchester United would like Elliot Anderson in January last year. They certainly would have liked Elliot Anderson in the summer. Man United wanted him. Well, Amram and Wilcox wanted a midfielder in the summer. They didn't get it. So would Man United go for Elliot Anderson in January? I think you have to look at it like this. And we all know this, but sometimes you have to remind yourself, when you look at Manchester United and you look at desire of what's required, Manchester United don't necessarily go and say,

26:42we don't want a midfielder in January. Ruben Amrum, I don't want one in January. The market's not good. Wilcox, yeah, I don't want one in January either. what will happen is the manager and Wilcox will want Elliot Anderson or Belaber or Wharton. They'll want them in January. Absolutely. The reason it won't happen is because it can't happen, because United can't do that deal. So when we get told we're not signing anyone in January, it's not because we don't want to. Amrim would love a midfielder in January of the quality of an Elliot Anderson or an Adam Wharton, etc. But it's because it can't happen.

27:20And it can't happen because Nottingham Forest will say no, Elliot Anderson might say no, and the price will be too big. So I believe there are opportunities in January that we cannot dismiss. And there are things that can happen in January that can happen. But when it comes to the Belavours and the the Whartons and the Andersons, no, it won't happen because we won't have the financial power to do it and the selling clubs won't have the desire to do it. And I very much doubt the players will have the desire to do it. As I said to you yesterday, if you're Elliot Anderson, you're already starting for England.

27:56Why would you jeopardise that by going to Man United and potentially sitting on the bench and watching Casemiro and Bruno? So that will be something for the summer without a shadow of a doubt. Let me just go into some of your comments here because we're sort of half-timed through all the topics. Do you think we'll sign Ed Anderson? I think it will change, mate. I think at the start of the season, Belaba was the player that we wanted. And I think here we are in sort of early November and it's Elliot Anderson. By the time we hit New Year, it could be Adam Wharton. I think it's quite... There's a lot of moving parts and there's a lot of targets and there's going to be a lot of people looking at those players.

28:39so it might be that the player that we want we can't get so we go for somebody else as well so i think it will be uh yeah definitely moving targets um king callum says the main thing the main new thing reminds me of when ollie didn't want to play fred we all asked for a run of five games then you couldn't get fred out of the team good point good point how's it going says melchie hope you're doing well uh nick p says we need players who are happy to sit on the bench it's that simple this season we can't just replace serxy with someone hungry for games it says nick p no no and I but I think you do need to replace Xerxi because Xerxi one was not an Amrim signing and two he's been here for 18 months and can't get anywhere near the first team and there's obviously somebody that wants to play football so he doesn't fit the profile but you're right Nick we do need to bring in players that are comfortable being sat on the bench and there will be profiles of players like that it doesn't mean they're sat on the bench all the time but know your role and be comfortable with it and be hungry with it and i think we don't have the right collection of players at the moment for that because amarin has not even built his first 11 yet but you're right we do need those sort of players uh paul thompson um says sesco's assist for imberma was solid does it really matter i've done that one i when i he says couldn't you mount amad and sesco can hit 50 to 60 goals between them um it's about the greater good paul exactly um mma takedown says not all players need to be heard these are guys um have to pick on young players because they're too thick to figure out a better job after retiring says emma may take down uh chip says i don't get the sesco criticism at all it's like people just need something to complain about his link up play is great look at his first touch for the imbermo assist versus brighton this needs to stop also also also a little dip into the world here um fortunately we're not built on this we're built on 10 years of 50 people watching the first show then 150 people then a thousand then hundreds of thousands so we've built a community steadily over people liking the community and liking the shows um in the uk now there's a probably one or two new x player football podcasts every week and having done a podcast with will for two years i didn't like the podcast world it's it's a strange world it's you know i much prefer just doing stuff on youtube and video the podcast world is weird they're all chasing credible sort of sponsorship deals and to do that they need lots of listens and there are so many of them and they're all ex-player ones so what do you do it's like the producer says can you come up with a soundbite that we can clip something controversial okay ideally about man united because man united have got a huge fan base and that's That's also what goes on.

31:28You can choose to ignore it or you can choose to hit it face on. Well, we may as well hit it face on and say, look, you're not representing what Manchester United fans think. We're not thinking that. And you're also misprofiling a player that realistically is on a long list of many that have struggled to be a striker at Man United. Cavani struggled. Martial struggled. Rashford struggled. Hoyland struggled. Sesco struggling. I mean, Ronaldo struggled by his standards. 18 goals in the Premier League and the United side is very, very good. But Ronaldo is the sort of guy who can hit 30. So I always think like Ronaldo, when he got those 18 goals, it was amazing.

32:05But we're talking about Ronaldo. Like Ronaldo could easily score 30, 40 goals in the Premier League for the right team. You know, Ronaldo, when he was at United, Man City were looking at him. If he'd gone to Man City, he'd have scored 30 goals. So even though Ronaldo did well and got 18, it wasn't like the service was great. it's always been a graveyard shift and we've got to work on that and it's not always the striker's fault and i've said this for so many years and so many of you understand it um sesko will show up give him a few more months to form a connection with the midfielders says ahmed we need another striker to create competition united scouting 20 year old uh victor roche or cameroonian carl ayong says red ed i've got a bit about strikers we'll talk about that in a moment um john we've on that uh i see rashford at bayern says keel robinson well basically there's a story come out from spain this morning about marcus rashford that um if i get the exact details of this um where was that marcus rashford that's that's about hullet siraxi here we go rashford so this has come out from sprain last night that effectively the numbers don't add up for uh um barcelona um in the sense that despite his good performances the economic situation at barcelona once again poses a hurdle the salary cap imposed by la liga complict complicates any attempt at a permanent purchase rashford uh valued at 29 million euros 25 million pounds is a figure currently unaffordable for a board that must prioritise sustainability and other strategic reinforcements uh the player himself would of course be looking to stay but 26 million pound buy option is you know very much not something that barcelona can do at the moment uh it goes on to say that um he would be available to other clubs for around 40 million pounds with psg buy in and juventus having shown interests i i you know what i absolutely agree with that comment that I think that Marcus Rashford...

34:16It's difficult. I mean, I'm sure Rashford wants to play for Barcelona. I'm sure he's very, very happy there. I'm sure he really likes it. It's an amazing football club. But ultimately, Barcelona do have the power. Now, Rashford has done well. It's not like he's flopping or not turning up or anything like that. He has done well. But ultimately, it will come down to Barcelona and whether they think it's financially worth it. You know, he's not Jamal, is he? He's not like their best player. And they might look at it and go, Marcus Rashford's 28. Do we want to really push the envelope financially to bring him in?

34:48Now, they might do. They might not. What I'm saying is, if it doesn't happen, those around Rashford basically need to be saying, look, if it doesn't happen, we've had a good year. Where do we go next to sort of build upon this? Because Man United doesn't have a place for you. and I agree I think Bayern Munich when you look at the way Bayern Munich play I think I think it worked very very well in a Bayern Munich side PSG potentially as well so look I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for Manchester United Barcelona we've mentioned this a few times it's no reflection on the player and it's no reflection on Barcelona or us financially they're in trouble and it will just come down to whether they financially want to load themselves onto a a Rashford deal or go thank you very much but it's just not quite right for us they might go for something younger or whatever so it's just a watching brief but as things are going at the moment I think some people read that yesterday it's quite a negative thing I don't I think he's actually done well and I think he'll continue to do well because it's a World Cup year and he's on loan etc and he's motivated and at the end of that year he'd be stupid to go I'm coming back to Man United to sit on the bench so I would imagine that there would be opportunities but look Barcelona is not necessarily the best fit for manchester united because they don't have a lot of money but economically i think this will be one to keep an eye on uh the reason is we're so crap last season we didn't get europe if we had europe and stayed in the cup we could rotate and keep everyone happy says dazzo yeah i completely agree around that one um let me talk to you a couple of things here about current players then so um shay lacy um i've noticed this for a couple of days now and I thought there was something to bring into the show.

36:29He's a young player that we've mentioned quite a lot on the United stand over the years. He's currently only 18 years of age. There's been a few stories recently that Ruben Amrim is preparing him for first-team football at Manchester United that could be coming imminently. There's been talk of the AFCON. Now, Lacey, I would describe, in my limited knowledge of watching the youth team, because I don't watch it that much, I would say he's more of a 10. you know he'd be more of a Cunha Mbemo position than anywhere else certainly wouldn't see him as a midfield two or a striker or one of the wingbacks but um somebody that could play in the number 10 position certainly I think that's where Lacey's future would be now he's had a few problems with injuries hopefully he's over those um he has got the potential and he is a name that many of you will know to you know graduate into the first team surroundings whether that will happen um will be very interesting i think if we were to run a poll and i was to say would you rather see lacy playing in the number 10 position or xerxi i think we know which way that would go so maybe you know i think amrim doesn't have to do this but will do this at some point every man united manager gets a feather in their cap by promoting their own young player we've seen it with Oli, we've seen it with Ten Hag, I think even Rangit did it, didn't he?

37:50So there is always that desire as a Manchester United manager to say, this is my player, I promoted them, I gave them an opportunity and Amron's not really done that yet. So if it's to be Lacey and it's to be in the AFCON, that's quite interesting. There are some games in December that people are looking at and going, hey, you know what, we don't normally put ourselves into this position, but we might be in a position here in January where we could give certain people some minutes, whether that be Lacey or Maynou, Zerksy, etc. But yeah, December's difficult. Sorry, November's difficult. Spurs away, Everton at home, Palace away.

38:34But then you look at December, West Ham at home, Wolves away, Bournemouth at home Villa away Newcastle at home Wolves at home and then January Leeds away Burnley away all by I mean look we play one two three four five six we play eight games between Thursday the 4th of December and Wednesday the 7th of January so we've got eight games in a very short period of time and in none of those it's not it's not just that we're going to miss out on Ahmad and um Masraoui and Mbremo in the AFCON it's also the volume of games you've got to play eight games in the space of what five weeks and we won't have any of those players for that time really so eight games effectively when you think about it that's that's just under what is what eight games it's it's just just just just shy of a quarter of the season it's mad when you think of it like that isn't it 8 16 yeah i mean it's not quite that maybe it fit but it's a large proportion of the season so it'd be interesting if he is going to throw lacy into it um i um i hope so i mean as i say i don't think amrin will be judged exclusively on whether he brings in um any young players but um lacy will be an interesting player to bring in uh also le mans has been speaking about his issues at manchester united and why didn't go straight into the team this is from m united france um so obviously i think when we bought le mans we really wanted him to see to see him making his debut straight away and it didn't happen straight away this is what he's had to say there's never there was never a strict plan on when i was going to play i was always told that the best goalkeeper would play at the beginning i did have a bit of trouble adapting to training the manager noticed it and gave me some time to adjust the first match i played was the ideal opportunity for me and from there everything went well i couldn't have imagined a better start so effectively that sort of flies in the wind of you know he should have what was the first game he could have played so we played if we signed him on transfer deadline day and we came back from the first international break it was man city wasn't it was it man city feel like it was man city man city Brentford and then he started against Sunderland didn't he I think that would be right so yeah yeah I think that little bit of time was was probably um fair at the end of the day so um but look um I don't, you know, I know Wilcox mentioned it yesterday.

41:27I don't look at it like that. I don't look at it. I look at it like Man United messed up with the goalkeeping situation. That's nothing to do with Amrim or Le Mans or Biinder. We messed up with the goalkeeping situation. And I don't think it's ever going to be anything that gets scrutinised and I don't think it needs to be. But why did we start the season without a goalkeeper? But why did we even step into this season where Biinder was in goal against Arsenal and Anana was starting against Grimsby? Something went wrong. And I don't know whether it was financial. I don't know whether we were going to get a midfielder and we didn't have enough money for a goalkeeper.

42:02A lot of people in and around the club sort of hint at that, that the reason we weren't going to buy a goalkeeper is because we were allocating funds elsewhere. We didn't end up with a midfielder. So did that free up some money to go and get a goalkeeper? Maybe that was it. But we certainly started the season without a goalkeeper. And I don't really understand why that was. And I think whatever the reason was that we delayed it, Lemans could have been a Man United goalkeeper in June. He could have had a perfect player to have on the US tour, ready to go for the start of the season. We've ended up in not too bad a situation.

42:39But yeah, we should have got him in. We should have got him in a bit earlier, I think. Yeah, certainly. um also um i um saw something from endrick's agent saying that there's absolutely no chance that he will be joining manchester united in the january transfer window and let's that let me just summarize some of the other stuff that's coming in here um so um oh this is quite interesting united is said to be one of several premier league clubs that have watched yan diamonde multiple times he's on the list of many top top european clubs um and doing very very well at leipzig at the moment a few of you mentioned him last night so you know um this was the thing uh from uh romano rumors on endrick and man united endrick and aston villa zero chance zero because endrick wants to play endrick doesn't want to compete obviously he would be ready to compete as he's doing at real madrid but he wants to play he wants to have six months with the opportunity to play and show his skills to develop.

43:41So I suppose that makes sense, doesn't it, really? You know, his frustration is sitting on Real Madrid's bench. Why would he want to go and sit on Aston Villa's bench or Manchester United's bench? He's going to find somewhere that he can go. And he's Victor Roque. Victor Roque, who's different to Hendrik. He's obviously a former Barcelona player, currently at Palmares. This is what he's had to say. Today, we're receiving a barrage of calls from European clubs, mainly Premier League and Italian. They're calling to ask about the price, but we're in the middle of the season. We already had an offer from the Arab world of 35 million euros, which wasn't of interest.

44:15And now we're going to get a proposal in the region of 50 million euros from the Premier League. What about Manchester United? If a good offer comes along for everyone and they understand that he has to leave, he's open to listing, but he's very happy at Palmeiras. So that's Victor Roque, who, look, he was going to be the next big thing at Barcelona and found himself back in Portugal. I think the striker situation for Man United is really interesting like where we will go next you know it's sort of we've gone full circle in the sense that we were talking about Sesco at the start I don't want another striker because they don't break Sesco I want another striker because we need another striker I mean we're just like I think we've become so accustomed and experienced in these types of conversations it's not anti-Sesco it's reality like how many times have we been in this position over the last few years where key players get injured and you're sort of like why have we put ourselves in this position for example if sesco breaks his leg and he's out for six weeks who is playing up front who is playing up front we're going to play a false nine aren't we and and and that is not acceptable for a football club of manchester united stature um so yeah i think i think that i think that i think that's something that we're going to have to figure out i don't think sesco is that guy um obi's nowhere near the first team at the moment so i think we've got to look at at that but who who i don't know um default 66 says you love talking about sesco's potential but when harlem was 22 he had 49 goals in 57 games why don't you go for osman um i literally spoke about this before um default 66 and I know some people really struggle with this, but I don't actually see the relevance of what Haaland was doing at 22 and what Sesko is doing here.

46:07I spoke about it at the start. Like I said, Sesko was never prolific at Leipzig and Haaland was. So why are we comparing Sesko to Haaland? Because they're human beings and they've got a head. What's the relevance between Sesko and Haaland? There isn't one. They're different profiles of player. Sesko wasn't scoring the goals that Haaland was. Haaland was seen as potentially being the world's best striker when he was at Dortmund. I don't think Sesco was. We haven't bought Haaland, so we shouldn't be holding him up to that. I don't know that Sesco's ever going to be that prolific anyway. Maybe he's not going to be that type of striker.

46:44Maybe he's a 15-goal season striker who brings other people into play. I don't know. You can't compare him to Haaland. I like this morning's show. It's very chill, says Melch. Thank you very much. Thank you for being with us. Seth says since we're talking about Barcelona we are dealing the same situation Barcelona bought so many high players and ultimately got more debt now it's United's thank you Seth hope you're doing well this morning uh Riley says hi Mark hope you're well do you think we should go for a new right back in January as Delo hasn't performed well at all no because that's Ahmad's position isn't it and then you've got Masraoui as well so I don't think we need the right I don't well I don't think we will look at anybody in that position until at least this summer anyway but I don't think that's going to be a priority.

47:27Thank you very much for that. Okay. Just a few more comments I want to get into here. Welbeck will be a good striker for you guys, says Kieran. I think he's too old for what we go for. Cosmo says, give Sesko time, he will deliver the goals.

47:49And I'd take 15 goals a week, says Black Mustache. And as fans, we can see when a player needs to be sold, but it seems no one at United knows when to do it. Selling players at the right time is crucial to keeping a strong squad. We don't strengthen, we weaken, says music only. I think this is something that we've failed to do for many years. You know, I look at Man City under Pep and the players that he's moved on, whether it's Raheem Sterling, whether it's Kevin De Bruyne, whether it's Gundogan, whether it's Sinchenko. So there is just a long list of players that they've moved on that go for good money and still keep playing at the high level.

48:27But obviously Pep has noticed that they're not at the level they need to be to move them on. United are terrible at this. Oh, Harry, do you want another contract? Oh, Bruno, do you want another contract? Casemiro, we might give you a new contract. There's just no way at Man City Pep Guardiola would be keeping these players. He'd be moving them on and building again. and it's something that United have become increasingly bad at. And the worst thing is, if you were going to keep a proven leader and winner on, you'd keep Kevin De Bruyne on, but Pep moves him on. We keep proven failures on when it comes to winning things at the highest level.

49:04So I do agree with you. We're very, very bad at moving people on at the right time. Sir Alex Ferguson was brilliant at it, by the way. Sir Alex Ferguson would do it and you'd go, what are you doing? Why? Yaps Stam, still at the very top of his game. David Beckham, Reid Van Nistelrooy, even Roy Keane. I know he's coming towards the end, but I still think he had a lot to offer. But he was brilliant at just going, now is the time to do it. And as I've said before, it's so sad that we need to look at Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City now for advice and a blueprint when actually they looked at us. The way we used to run ourselves under Sir Alex was the way to run a football club.

49:44you know recruitment uh moving players on ruthlessness how we played on the pitch standards consistency you know everything was there um and the glazes allowed it to be torn down um okay rest of the day for you we've got amram's press conference coming in at about half one so make sure you're live for that we'll see what happens with that and then eight o 'clock live preview it's one of my favorite shows of the week live preview at eight o 'clock how we think we're going to line up talking about Spurs talking about whether Sesco is going to get dropped or not I suppose that will be a factor as well um Andy thank you very much thanks everyone for watching stay safe and I'll speak on the next one take care