234: Amorim's BIG Mainoo Message! Admits SESKO Is Struggling!

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0:33hello Lee good morning and welcome to the United Stands I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news it's Friday we're playing tomorrow it's the weekend the football starts here and we've got some very big comments coming in from our manager Ruben Amrim this morning around Maynud primarily that's where I want to start talking about really him saying that he should be playing for Manchester United but there's a reason I'm not picking him I mean do we do we buy into that we we can talk about that as well i need to get you out when the technology ain't my thing at the moment um also he's spoken about the future of casemiro and about the future of harry maguire and how you know he'd be very open to potentially keeping them for another year um also spoke about sesco and his struggles a bit about bruno fernandez as well a bit about cunha and then burmo so a lot of things for amir this morning to get into and uh what better place to start off than And effectively, let me just go to United Stand Twitter, actually, because this is the best place for me to read the direct quotes.

1:32So here we go. So basically what I had to say about Mainu is that I see Mainu training today and he deserves to play. But then I have to take one guy out that's playing really well. We should have played yesterday in the Carabaugh because I need to see Cobby playing. I need to see Joshua Zerzi playing. All these guys deserve to be playing. But in the end, with one game, you need to make choices. So we have both sides, but we are taking advantage of the good side, which is not playing in midweek. And effectively, he basically said that, look, Maynou, I've seen him train today. He's trained really well.

2:13He deserves to play. But, you know, I don't have space in the team. Bruno and Casimiro are playing well, so I can't pick. So ultimately, I think that the talking point there is, is he wrong? Is he right? I think that, look, if I'm being completely honest in that situation, if I'm Manu and I'm hearing my manager say that, I mean, potentially you could take the positives from it and say, well, look, I'm training really hard and he won't give me minutes. But the flip side of that coin would be, I thought in the second half against Nottingham Forest last weekend, bruno and casemiro had on their feet well you didn't bring me on then did you um there has been games this season where casemiro and bruno have had bad games you didn't pick me in the next game then did you i mean the reality is it doesn't actually matter i'm speaking as if i'm here it doesn't matter if you're saying i'm training well and i deserve to play because if that's the case let me go on loan because you're not going to use me mate like you can't publicly say oh I'm training well and I deserve to play because I can publicly say to you which is not public I could say to you well what about this game where Bruno played shit what about Brentford where Bruno played shit he didn't pick me the next game you know what about Fulham where Bruno was shit he didn't pick me the next game you know what about second half against Forest where Bruno was shit he didn't bring me on so it's all right saying oh I deserve to play more I mean you're basically saying I should be playing in the Carabao Cup with all due respect I don't think I should be playing in the Carabao Cup I think you should be playing in the Premier League so you're basically saying publicly that I deserve to play and then you're not playing me and then you're saying if we'd had a Carabao Cup game I would have been playing well that's not what I want I don't want to be playing Carabao Cup football I want to play Premier League football so look I think my take on it is and from a manager point of view like that that's the main new side it's important to give the manager side as well from a manager point of view like it's the perfect thing to say you know you're happy with Bruno and Casemiro you've got Agate and Maynou on the bench you say they're training well and it's just unfortunate there's not enough games but I've got to focus on the positives um what do you want him to say he ain't training well he ain't good enough for my team and that's why I'm not picking him and I don't trust him I mean so there is an element of of um i suppose pr etc there but the reality is my personal feeling having you given me what may know and amram's feeling might be is that i just don't buy it i i don't buy that he's training well and i don't well i do buy the fact that you're training well but i don't buy the fact that you know there isn't space in the team um i don't buy into the fact that you know i mean look the way Amrin puts it is that look it's a negative for the people who aren't getting game time but I don't have space for them um it's a positive for me because we're only playing one game a week um he spoke about he was asked a question about potentially rotating Bruno and he said um I can't remember where what what he said he said words to the effects that Bruno is a really important player for us we're only playing one game a week and he's playing well so we don't need to change it if in the future we have more games then you know we might need to rotate it but at the moment we don't need to rotate it maybe next year if we're in other cups or we're back in Europe but at the moment I don't need to rotate it because there's only one game a week um so look I think it's uh I think it's I think it is a big message to Maynou and I think it is a big message to everybody else that he has his favorites and he isn't going to change that um I don't mind that by the way you know for me when we did the preview last night what did I say I said in the preview that you know I never even touched on the midfield I never mentioned Agate I never mentioned Manu because I know his midfield is Casemiro and Bruno and that's the midfield he's very happy with and as a manager you know that that's we want to know what his best team is and it is Bruno and Casemiro so call it for what it is it's not even close if it was close and he really was feeling bad about not picking Agate or picking Maynou, then they would be coming on more often.

6:31Maybe they'd even be starting more often. But I don't buy into the fact that these players are training really well and they deserve to start, but I'm not going to. I think he has his preferences and that's absolutely fine. The final thing I would say about it is that when he says that these people deserve to play but I can't find a space for them as I said there are multiple games where people have played badly this season and let's just go back to last weekend Deleuze has been rubbish for three weeks and still starts in that game now you're telling me that Masraoui couldn't have played left wing back or Dorgou couldn't have played left wing back so I don't get the sense with Amrim that he picks a team based on who's training well I think he picks a team on who his best 11 is that's fine that's not a criticism by the way Sir Alex Ferguson used to do this many managers have done this I don't think Amrim looks at it in the week and goes you've trained well you're going into my team I think he looks at it and goes you're my best team how do we recover for the weekend I don't think he gives a shit if Casemiro trains badly or trains well I think he's in the team tomorrow um same with De Ligt if De Ligt has a bad training session I don't think he goes you're out the team Masraoui you're in I think he's I think he's establishing his best 11 and I said that ahead of the Forest game last week I think there's one or two positions in that team that are up for grabs one of them is Sesco's one of them has to be Deleuze apart from that I think his best team is pretty much set in stone but look tell me what your thoughts are I don't I don't know what do you do with that message that Amrim has sent to Manu um he deserves to play he's training really really well but we've only got one game a week and there's no space in the team for him because Casemiro and Bruno are playing well is that a good message is it a fair message is it a right message I personally think as the manager you've got every right to say that I don't have a problem with it at all I just think you're answering your own question if he deserves to play and you don't play him you've got to let him go in January because the minutes you're giving him is shocking you're damaging his career and I said that last night uh let me just grab some of your comments before we uh before we move on something else as well because quite a lot to get through this morning for better or worse selling Bruno would be transformative says at zero connection.

8:44Realistically, the midfield won't change if Casemiro and Bruno are still at the club. Rory C says no reason to rotate when he's not happy with that. And Simply Red says Casemiro hasn't had a bad game. Manu should come on for Bruno. I mean, that's just simply red. That's just simply not true, is it? Just simply not true. I don't even need to give you my opinion. Let's just go back through all the match ratings that are voted for by thousands and thousands of view from all around the world who don't speak to each other there's been numerous games this season where casemiro has been below a six so he's definitely not had a good game every game he's played this season has he he hasn't hasn't um what was the game where he got booked early and had to get subbed off was that they got sent off against chelsea for fox sake i mean come on that was a great game thanks for that you know very very comfortable game where we could have boosted our goal difference, ended up squeaky bum time.

9:37So look, Casemiro and Bruno are starting midfield. We can't argue with that. And they've done pretty well over the last three or four weeks. But let's not pretend that there hasn't been opportunities where they haven't played that well, because there has. About Casemiro, this is what he had to say. I read this in an article this morning. Casemiro, what's his long term future at Manchester United? These are the words of Ruben Amrin he said we will see um I I really do count on him uh Casemiro and Harry Maguire I'm very very happy with both of the players with regards to the summer and staying beyond that let's wait and see but um you know I'm very happy with them so look I remember being sent um a very very good sort of it wasn't an article it was a span it was a portuguese journalist about a year ago who literally emailed us with a big massive list of what to expect from reuben amrim and one of the things that always jumps out to me was the um sorry i said a little bit hi there uh one of the things that one of the things that always jumps in out to me was the was the whole just be prepared for the fact that there might be some senior players that you don't think should be at the club, he will keep them around for a long time.

10:54And are we starting to see that now? You know, I think that it may not go hand in hand with the way we want the club to be run. I literally was saying this yesterday. I think Manchester United are absolutely terrible, terrible at moving on players at the right time. And we mentioned Pep Guardiola and his ability to move on, people like Gundogan and De Bruyne and Raheem Sterling, you know, he just moves them out at the time he feels it's time to go even though they'll go elsewhere and still deliver he feels that you know for whatever reason at the very peak of what he wants to achieve they're not quite there anymore it might be age mentality whatever we saw what he did with Cancelo he's ruthless um Man United are not ruthless with this we're really poor actually at uh figuring out when the time is to move a player on um but look that stands out to me from a year ago from that Portuguese journalist that Amarim will shock you with, you know, two or three players that you think are past it, but he'll keep them around because he thinks they're good to have around.

11:59I don't know whether that's going to work out well, by the way, just to throw my two pennies worth here. I think when you're playing for sport, when you're managing sporting, keeping, you know, look at bloody Pepe. Pepe was at, was it Porto Pepe was at? I mean, he was playing until he was 50. He would not get away with that in the Premier League. So I don't know that what you did at Sporting, keeping a few senior players around because they're useful. I don't know whether that works in the Premier League. I think when the drop off happens, it can be quite damning. But look, from what he was saying there about how happy he is with Casemiro and Maguire, I wouldn't rule it out ridiculously that we might attempt to extend Casemiro's contract by another year, which will cost us a minimum£275 ,000.

12:48And if we get in the Champions League,£350 ,000 a week. So, yeah, I think it doesn't surprise me. But look, there are elements of naivety to Amrim. I've always said this. He has to be given the ability to learn. And then we have to then give him the benefit of the doubt, whether he learns from those sort of things. He might get proven right. You know, keeping Casemiro and Maguire for another year might be the best thing we've ever done. I don't think it is. But look, we'll have to wait and see. But Casemiro is definitely part of his long term plan at the moment and maybe even longer than this season.

13:27He also spoke about Cunha and Mbermo, which I really did like. So this was very, very interesting, what he said about Cunyren in Bermud. Because I think there are two big reasons that...

13:44When we look at this game tomorrow, I think there are two big reasons why Manchester United are different to that Manchester United side that played Spurs in the Europa League final. And look, this is a half-twelve game tomorrow, so get ready for it. but he basically said this. I think the two big reasons we've got to be hopeful tomorrow are Kunja and Mbremo. I think the goalkeeper makes a difference. You know, Anana messed up on that goal that we conceded. But I think Kunja and Mbremo are huge players in the sense of we didn't have them last season. I think every single game that we have them starting for Manchester United makes it very, very different.

14:22And obviously we do have, as I say, Le Mans and we've got Sesko. But this is what Amrim had to say. He said, look, in relation to Kunja, he's a Maverick. he has an aura that can do something to the opponent's head completely agree I think when you look at these two players they're massively empowering for us they give more confidence to the team they give more confidence to the fan base they make us better but I think they are very very different players and and that's why spending 130 million pounds on them combined was you know looked at as a very very big statement and we won't understand the full justification of that for maybe a year or two but I think in the first two or three months we can see the change and I think Amrim's right you know I think with Kunya you sort of have that spontaneity flair you know he is a player that can make something happen out of nothing and he has that you know maverick appeal as Amrim says in relation to Embermo he says he's more direct and you sense that when the ball is with the defenders he's already running and I think you know I think that is fair with Embermo I think Embermo is probably a little bit more simplified in his game in the sense that um he is direct um you know he can just get the ball put across in the box he can just get a shot up very very quickly and his work rate is fantastic and I think they complement each other really well and and as we know you know if they can deliver 30 Premier League goals between them then that's going to move us up the league and I was listening to what Amrin was saying about how does it impact Manchester United you know is it an opportunity for Manchester United playing one game a week and he was talking about how well it's a really competitive league and if you look at the last international break we were you know he was under pressure to lose his job I mean it was the last international break where Sir Jim Radcliffe came out and said three years it was the last international break where there was talk of a takeover from the UAE.

16:20That's the conversations that were going on in the last international break. Here we are a few weeks later and people are talking about top four. They're talking about, you know, Man United getting back in the Champions League. Positivity, positivity. But that could change again in the next three weeks. Like I say, if we lose tomorrow, I think we're in for a very different international break where conversations will probably be very different because we're closer to mid-table than we are the top four. shop the sherwin-williams 4th of july sale and get 30 off paints and stains june 26 through july 6 whether you're refreshing your interior or exterior we've got the colors to bring your vision to life and with delivery getting everything to your door is easier than ever shop online to have it delivered or visit your neighborhood sherwin-williams store click the banner to learn more retail sales only some exclusions apply see store for details Delivery available on qualifying orders.

17:14But the opportunity essentially is the opportunity to take every game and win it. Now, that obviously sounds very, very strange, but going back to what he was talking about there, he's got players on his bench that apparently deserve to play, but he doesn't need because he can't find a space for them. He doesn't need to rotate because people like Casemiro. I mean, look, the benefit of this season is it's unique. and I don't think it's really been spoken about in any depth and I'd love to get your thoughts on it, but Luke Shaw, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Harry Maguire, Bruno Fernandes, would they be able to operate like Liverpool are or Arsenal are or Aston Villa are with two games a week?

17:57I think we have picked up injuries, but I think we'd have a lot more injuries if these players were having to play two games a week. So it is an opportunity, whether we want to call it out or not. It is a massive opportunity for Manchester United this season. I would never say we have to get top four. I think that's ridiculous. I think fifth place is a challenge we have to try and achieve. But it's a massive opportunity. One game a week is a really bad thing for certain players like Maynou and Xerxi and Masraoui who just aren't getting game time. But the flip side of that coin is there isn't really any excuse.

18:35If you want to drop Luke Shaw and play Martinez when he's back, you can. Luke Shaw, tough. You're not going to the World Cup, you're not going to get picked. But there are benefits to it as well. And I think it has to be an opportunity. I don't think it's acceptable for this team to finish below sixth. I really don't. I nearly said fifth. I don't know what you think, but I don't think it's acceptable for this team to finish below sixth. fifth place I think we'll get as Champions League, sixth place we'll get as the Europa League. But with what we've got and the limited amount of games we've got, I think you have to take that opportunity.

19:13And, you know, I was listening to what you said about the second half against Sparrow, you work hard to get 1-0 up and then you give that away. You give that three points away. and you've got to try and get into that mindset of you know you've got to learn from that and you've got to we were talking about this last night you've got to learn from that and go you're one nil up you've got yourself in a position to get three big points and get yourself into the top four and you end up scraping a draw that's a missed opportunity that's something that for the for the next week you've got to all talk about and go what went wrong in that dressing room collectively everybody what went wrong in that dressing room for us to allow that to happen because it's not acceptable and those are the those are things that are going to hold us back it's this that's not a fitness thing we can't be what I'm saying is we can't be tired in the second half against I mean it needs more scrutiny like and Amrim no doubt will have scrutinized but you can't be tired in the second half against Forrest you haven't played for a week you've only played 45 minutes the tempo of that game wasn't that high either it really wasn't a high intensity game so you can't blame fatigue for why you gave up a 1-0 lead it can only be collective leadership mentality whatever um and remember amram didn't make subs amram didn't make subs in that game not well he did but not significant subs you know there were sesko bruno amad um kunya And Bermot stayed on.

20:52I can't remember what subs he made in that game, actually. Tell me. So, you know, we've got to we've got to take the learning from that without a shadow of a doubt. One hundred percent. There was a couple of other things I want to talk about. Sesco as well, what he said about Sesco, but a couple of things.

21:11He was also asked about what he's learned about himself in the past year. He said, I understand that that in the bad moments, my convictions are the same. I can deal with pressure. I can maintain my way of thinking under pressure. I didn't know that as a manager in the past. I know that we will have bad moments again and I will be prepared for that. This is apparently an interview with Men in Blazers. Amram's done a lot of bloody interviews. There's so many quotes out this morning. I've got one about Sesco to talk about and I just don't know what he did yesterday. But he in sports, press conference, Men in Blazers, you know, there's just so many quotes from Amram coming around.

21:46But look, he basically is admitting that he didn't understand that in the bad moments, my feelings are the same and I can deal with that pressure. I can maintain my way of thinking under pressure. I didn't know that as a manager in the past. Look, I would suspect mostly he hadn't been through that amount of pressure in the past that you get at Manchester United, that level of scrutiny. And I think what he's saying is I've shown that I can survive in those moments, which is interesting because that leads on to what he had to say about Sesco. He was asked about Sesco. And there's an article around this as well, basically saying that I'm really relaxed around Sesco.

22:26But he spoke about how Sesco basically went on to say that Sesco is, you know. Living the we already know that Sesco is like really focused, really driven. and what Amrin basically said is that he is struggling. He is struggling. He can't perform every week at Manchester United and he's realising that and you hear the external questions from legends and fans and everything and he wants to be in control but he can't be in control. You can't control Manchester United. Maybe when you're at Leipzig, you can get in control of the situation. It's less intense but you can't control this. and he needs to realise that he is going to struggle because that's natural.

23:15You know, if you don't score or you have a bad game at Man United, you will get criticised. You can't control that conversation. So effectively what Amrind's saying about Cescou is that he's got to, you know, he's got to accept and learn what being a Man United player is. And he's a very driven player, as we know. But at Manchester United, it's a rarity that you can play well every single week. Ronaldo at Man United got criticised and he's one of the greatest players we've ever had Rooney Beckham you know that's just the way it is it comes with the territory and Sesco is very young so Amarin basically saying look have total confidence in him also acknowledge that we've got to learn better how to utilise his skills which we've spoken about crosses into the box but Amarin says this a lot he said look there will be struggles you are going to struggle I'm going to struggle the team's going to struggle players are going to struggle it's how you deal with that you are going to get criticized and and it goes on to say um in the article about neville what you know about gary neville's criticism of sesco and amrin basically goes along and goes well he has been struggling you know you've got to learn to deal with opinion um it wasn't um you know it wasn't abusive or anything like that you know it's an opinion and he has been struggling a little bit so you've got to accept that that's going to happen and i still do think that But, you know, Ruben Amram is probably the best coach we've had recently at dealing with this sort of thing.

24:42Solskjaer used to do it a little bit differently and sort of try and, what's the word, protect his players and, you know, siege mentality, which can work. But I think Amram is more of an opinion that we need to embrace the fact that we're Manchester United. We need to embrace the fact that we're always going to get spoken about and we can't protect you from it. So, you know, maybe he could come out and say it's disgusting what Neville said as an ex-player, criticising a young player. How would he have dealt with it? You know, he could also say, well, you know, Cesco's doing really, really well.

25:16But he doesn't. He goes, look, I'm really happy with him. I'm confident with him. I think he's going to be a really good player for us. But, you know, he will struggle because he's a Man United player. You're always going to get scrutinised. That's what that's what it's all about. And that's exactly what I said about the Neville stuff at the start of the week. and a lot of you I know disagree that's what it's all about and some people overreacted about it but I said look the quote I saw from Neville wasn't abusive wasn't toxic it was basically the joke is out um and we need to see more from him and well Neville doesn't rate Sesco maybe preferred we'd gone for somebody else maybe he does rate him and he just thinks we need more from him but the point is there's nothing wrong with that we get over protective about our players sometimes but listen to the manager what is he saying I think he needs more from a lot more you know we he's probably very pissed off about the second half against Forrest last week I I think Amrim in his interview yesterday came across more relaxed than he probably is inside because you'd be fuming you know you would be fuming some of you were fuming some of you were It's a good point on the road.

26:29But the reality is it's only a good point on the road in the circumstances. And what were the circumstances? Well, one nil up at half time. We absolutely bottled it in the second half and then Ahmad produced the world. Those circumstances are it's a good point. But what the bloody hell happened in the second half? So and it's a massive game tomorrow as well. And look, if you haven't watched the preview, check it out, because I'm convinced yet that he may leave Cescou out. he obviously really really likes Mason Mount and he may leave him out so you know we'll have to wait and see wow that was a hot touch of tea um let me have a look at some of the stuff you're saying this morning uh we have got Ben Jacobs on the show tonight this afternoon as well that was meant to happen yesterday but Amarin's press conference was brought forward so that's why we are with that uh you think we'll get revenge on spurs mark i think the day you're saying do you think we'll get revenge on spurs is the day we hit the lowest point we've ever had i mean revenge on spurs just doesn't work like we're not looking for revenge against spurs um revenge against spurs is implies that we are somehow rivals of spurs and look there might be people out there that consider it that way and we are very close to them in the league but we went to Anfield and won a couple of weeks ago I don't look at this game as revenge um last season as I said to you a couple of weeks ago I don't judge Amrim on last season for me your win ratios I mean look I saw somebody going on about his win ratios gone down again now because he drew to Forrest and I'm like I don't actually care because so much of that is based on last season and what did we say a couple of minutes ago like can you make this team different having a goalkeeper makes this team different so why are we so focused on last season which was an absolute joke um I just don't think conversations about that Europa League final or last season or you know the damage the losses did to Amrim's win ratio it's almost like I don't want to get religious but you know like it's the year is 2025 Allo Domini and there's like 100 BC before Christ I think there is um BA and I'm not talking about British Airways there's before well you wouldn't call it before Amerim because obviously Amerim is um you know was here last season but I do think that there is something to be said um in relation to how we approached that game, that last season, and how we approach it now.

29:19So I don't see Spurs as revenge, no. I don't feel like we're having any revenge with anybody, to be honest with you. I think it's an opportunity. And I think, I don't want to go over old ground from the preview because it's well worth a watch, but as we get close, I mean, half past 12 tomorrow, it sets the weekend up, doesn't it? Although I think the weekend starts tonight on Bundesliga, because I'm biased. And that's football. Make sure you check it out. But look, if we lose tomorrow, Spurs fans will have every right to banter us. Of course they will. Andy Atherton says, It's interesting to see Kone, Lacey and Lyon training with the first team when you consider Mane and Xerxes want loans and were struggling at left-back.

30:00Coincidence. um well did i say this to you or did i say this in a chat group i think i said it didn't i i would not be surprised by march if kone has surpassed mainu now whether that's because mainu's gone on loan or whether mainu stayed i just feel like i just feel with kone there is this opportunity and he's not that similar in age to Mainu, is he? I mean, what, a couple of years? I don't think Amrim rates Mainu. I don't. And I think tactically, if we let Mainu go, there is a PR exercise here for the club to manage. I said this last night, you know, maybe, maybe in this conspiracy theory, Amrim's already let the club know, I don't want Mainu.

30:52And the club have gone, hold on a minute, getting rid of Ganacho is a piece of piss because he's walking around in a villa shirt. Getting rid of Rashford's easy because he's had loads of chances. Getting rid of Maynard at 20, who's come through the youth set up, that's going to bite you on the arse big time. The media, the fans, we need to manage this really, really carefully. So we can't just let that happen. If we're going to let it happen, there's got to be something to counteract it. Well, Kone coming through would counteract it. I mean, let's be honest, if May on loan in January and Kone was getting first team football in January, there would be a little bit of kickback, but a lot of people would just be excited about Kone.

31:31And I just have a theory. Much the same, I have a theory Bruno's off to Saudi before the end of June. I have a theory that Kone might surpass May this season. We'll have to wait and see. um with regard so it's good point Andy uh with regards to um Lacey we've spoken about him before I mean he can start to get a little bit of uh bench time Leon I don't know with Leon I feel like Leon has been training with the first team anyway because he's meant to be training with the first team he was brought in to train with the first team I wasn't aware that he'd not stopped training with the first team so I think Leon when he came in in the summer was always for the first team to train with whether he's close to the first team haven't heard anything um i mean at the moment you know he'd have to go ahead of dorgu who can't even start but look i'd say leon probably for the future naveen says with maynu i feel we all need to think what it is that bruno and casimero do that maynu doesn't and that could give us the answer i think i think it's a very intelligent point to be what is it that bruno and casimero have that maynu doesn't have um Amrim's trust.

32:45I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is because I don't want to go back to last season. I'm going to contradict myself now. When I go back to last season, he wasn't picking him then either. From day one, Amrim's never really took to Mane. Never. I was looking at it a couple of weeks ago and I was looking at all the teams he picked and every single game. and it was a depressing thing going through last season but the pattern was there and it hasn't changed it hasn't changed he's always preferred Agathe Bruno Casemiro over Maynou throughout his whole time here I don't know what goes on you know I don't know Maynou but everything I ever hear about Maynou is that he's grounded he's a good lad he's a hard worker he's focused on his football so it can't be those things um it must just it might be you know what it might be might be speed it might be not not the streamer it might be the lack of speed that some people perceive uh it might be that he doesn't feel that he's uh he suits his system you know if Marcus Rashford doesn't suit Amram's system because he's an attacking winger he doesn't suit Amram's system if Amram perceives that Manu is not a midfield pivot and he's not mobile enough to be a 10 then he doesn't suit the system so maybe he looks at it and goes you don't suit my system so I've got to work on you to make you suit my system.

34:06And maybe he feels he's got to mould the player. I don't know. But I personally think you could drop Maynou into that. Well, just go back in time two years ago when he was playing in a midfield three. I still think he can. I don't think there's anything. I don't think Maynou's broken his leg and can't do the things he was doing two years ago. I think it might be systematic. um bo before inana says julian lee get the links africa um that's why i think at billy ocean um bo basher

34:45i was thinking that does bo still exist i bet it does let's not try that one out it's bad body odor i wonder if bo stands for body of course it does god every day's a school out i just realized what bo stands for body odor isn't it bo basher we used to call him at school not me that would be well you were allowed to do it in the 90s um my brain sort of works like that though i i have i have a quite a creative brain but sometimes i miss the open goal like i've only just realized what bo stands for body odor obvious when you think about and then again i probably never really have to think about what it means um let me go back i've got some good comments coming in here uh people only talk about maynu because he's british meanwhile no one's talking about agate bruno and casimiro doing great no neither is maynu uh says david yeah i mean look i like i like the comment david um i think it will definitely generate a minute or two of conversation we do talk about maynu because he's british i accept that more more more more relevance and more relevant than that, we talk about Maynou because he is from the youth.

35:59And we talk about Maynou because two years ago, he was one of the best midfielders in the Premier League, which is why he went to the Euros. Well, sorry, not one of the best players in the Premier League, one of the most exciting young players in the Premier League. And that's why he went to the Euros. Obviously, being British will give him more focus because he was playing for England. So, yes, you're right about that. No one's about Agate because Agate costs£60 million and is in his mid-20s. So Agate is not a 20-year-old prospect. He's a player that was brought in to deliver today, and he isn't.

36:33So Agate is very, very different in that sense. Are Bruno and Casemiro doing great? No, but neither is Maynou. But Bruno and Casemiro, even when they play badly, still play next week. And I am a firm believer of this, and I'm not going to bore you about it, I firmly believe that Manu needs to be given two or three games starting. He needs to be given that confidence and he's not getting it. So he has to perform every, you know, in 20 minutes, every fucking, every couple of weeks. So, and he ain't stupid, is he? I know it. You know it. Bruno and Casemiro can have a bad half an hour and they'll still play next week.

37:12Naveen says, with Manu, I feel we all need to think they've done that one. Good question. Kai says, Manu needs the Elliot Anderson treatment. Send him on loan to a weaker team where relative and defensive responsibility lies on him every week. Yes. Yes. I think this is a great point as well, because it leads into what we're about to do in the summer transfer window or the January transfer window. The exceptionally impressive things about Stiller, Anderson, the labour when he performs well and Wharton is that they do it in very competitive leagues where they are not the best team. Now, with all due respect, if you are playing for Bayern Munich in the midfields and you're 20, yes, you're talented, but you're also surrounded by the best players in Europe.

37:58If you are Elliot Anderson playing well for Manchester City, yes, it's great and you're going to get a lot of hype. But you were also surrounded by some of the best players in Europe. When you're doing it for Nottingham Forest, you're not. When you're doing it for Crystal Palace, you're not. When you're doing it for Brighton, you're not. And when you're doing it for Stuttgart, you're not. So, exactly. And I wouldn't be surprised if that's something that Maynou actually craves, is the opportunity to go and prove himself. Because I do not think he's happy to just sit there waiting at Manchester United.

38:34But this is why Cunha and Mbermo are such good signings, because the goals and assists they were getting last season were very impressive, no matter who you are. But when you put it into a relegation team like Wolves and when you put it into a team like Brentford, it becomes even more impressive because you're doing it as a club where you don't have Mo Salah on the wing, where you don't have Alexi McAllister and Kai Sado in the midfield. It's difficult. The players around you are not actually at the highest level. I mean, look at Wolves. Look at Wolves. Wolves are going to get relegated. What's the difference between Wolves this season and last season?

39:14Well, look, there are other players that left. Alnori left. But I think the big difference is not having Kunja. Wolves are the worst team in the Premier League. They've got two points from 10 games, which is absolutely abysmal. And it just highlights again just how good Kunja was for them. And what an amazing job he was doing in a team that was really a relegation team. um so yes this is the impressive thing about some of the players that we're actually looking at this is the impressive thing about the likes of um um anderson etc um thank you andy atherton bad amram comments on mainu either say the reason comments at all just leave space uh of the fans and press to speculate says arid yeah so if you're tuning in a little bit late um basically what amram has said is that um you know looking at mainu in training he's doing really really well and he deserves to play, but there's no space for him.

40:09And that's a positive because, you know, we're only playing one game a week and there are advantages to that. But I don't think that helps Maynou. I don't. And I personally, as I say, I've seen Casemiro and Bruno have bad games. I thought last week, in the last half an hour, they both weren't playing very well and he still didn't bring Maynou or Agate on. So I don't believe that he actually really trusts Maino or Agate. And that's why he doesn't use them, regardless of whether they're training well. Malik says, Casemiro isn't going to be here next year. So why not play Kobe and get him adapted to the system, ASAP, because losing him is going to be another regret.

40:50Well, I think this is some really good comments coming in this morning. I mean, Malik, I agree with you. I don't want to get into the arguments I got into last night. But I'm telling you now, if I'm managing a team or, you know, whether it's a football team or a restaurant or whatever, and I've got somebody that I believe is talented and is going to be really, really good. I don't just say take the night off. I don't just say sit on the bench till next year. It's just not how you operate. You go, OK, I've got Casimir and Brunner. I'm really excited about him. I've got to get him in. I've got to get him in the game time as much as possible.

41:27come on for the last half an hour yeah you can start this game yeah you know we don't we're not getting that we we get the interviews we don't get the evidence like we hear that main is the successor to bruno and hamam really likes him and he's training really really well but there is no evidence of what that is you know you look at conor bradley at liverpool i know he's starting games now but for the last 18 months even when trent was here you'd still see lots of him he'd be coming on for the last half an hour he'd be starting the odd game here and there and yeah all right we're not in the carabao cup we're not in europe but there's still opportunities there are still opportunities to show that main is important um how can you say he's for next season and then basically sit him on the bench for most of you know there is no development i personally don't think he is the next season i don't think amram is behaving like being with next season because he doesn't use him.

42:25I think the plan is a different one. I really want to be wrong on this. I really want to be wrong on this. But sometimes you've got to look at it and go, I don't see any evidence that he rates him. I mean, look, how great would it be tomorrow to see the team news and see Manu starting in the midfield? You know, maybe there's a hint there that he's trained really well this week. I would love to, but I don't think any of us think it will happen. Casemiro hasn't had a bad game. Manu should come on for Bruno, just simply read. We've done that one. And Casemiro has had bad games, as we said. I think if we can get Anderson from Forest, he'd pair really well with Mainu in the midfields.

43:02I mean, I have hope. I do have hope that that might happen. But I don't think from my situation here, and I don't know what your thoughts are. I personally don't think that. And it's a relevant conversation to have at this stage of the morning show, but I don't think that next season, Bruno, Casemiro, Maynou go. I can't see Man United authorising the remover of three midfielders. I just don't see it. so we can twist and turn about the combinations about what could happen but I don't see Bruno going to Saudi, Casemiro leaving on a free and Manu being let go either so I can't and Agathe's not pulling a free so you know Agathe and three new signings I can't see that I just can't see it and I can't see Agathe being happy either I think he could be knocking on the door I mean you're right about Agathe why would Agathe not be knocking on the door at the moment it's a World Cup year and he's not even bloody playing.

44:07So why would he not be knocking on the door about a loan deal as well? So I don't see Casemiro, Bruno, Maynou going in the next summer transfer window. Two, I think maybe, three, no. So there you go, well, who won't go? Because you'd think Bruno, Saudi, lots of money. I think there's a big chance Bruno won't go if we get European football. So maybe it'll be Maynou and Casemiro and Bruno stays with Agate and two new midfielders? At the moment, that's the one I think is most likely. I think Bruno will stay another year or two because we get European football and Casemiro and Manu will go. On the other hand, if we don't get European football, I think Bruno will go.

44:55Casemiro might stay because he's a little bit cheaper and Manu might go. third hand we don't get Europe Casemiro fancies a bigger payday Bruno won't stay and Manu stays so I think Jack Cassidy says Bruno isn't leaving it's way too early I mean look brain Bruno is basically saying if you don't get Europe I'm off and if you do get you I'm going to stay I don't like that but I think that's Bruno's position I think from his interview a couple weeks ago about wanting to play the World Cup and then make his mind up. So I think if we don't get European football, Bruno will go. If we do, I think he will stay.

45:37Casemiro, I think, will look at what the pay options are and, you know, he'll make a decision based on that. So, and then you have to say, well, even if Maynus stays, where's the evidence that Amrim rates him? So you sort of go back to that, don't you? Amrim is under pressure to win games. He obviously seems to trust Bruno and Casemiro to do that for him. It's unfair on Maynou, Vigate, but he probably sees them as a risk. Yes. And I think this is exactly spot on. The voice of reason, Patrick Lynch. Now, I think you're absolutely spot on, Patrick, because what was the game? Was it Chelsea where we saw Yaro out of the team and Maguire in the team?

46:18I think since the Nasta international break and before it, he's doubled down on trying to get as many experienced players on the pitch as he can. And look, let's play devil's advocate, right? Tomorrow, Casemiro pulls his hamstring in the warm up. Menuh comes into the team or Agate comes into the team we lose and they play really badly and everyone's sat there going that's why he's been picking Casemiro and that might happen I'm not saying I'm certainly not all those heading the clouds fans going oh no no we'd be fine like yeah this is why when we do the preview I never go it should be Agate and Menuh in the midfield I don't I did at the start of the season but I don't anymore because I actually do think that Casemiro and Bruno I reach midfield too and we have won some games with them there so he's got every right to pick that and maybe that's why he does it because he's like Agathe and Mainu are too much like hard work they may end up being good players but I can't lose the on the journey to them becoming good players which goes back to what I was saying before I think if you gave Mainu three or four starts he would get better and become the midfield we need but in the first two games we might lose and then he's under pressure again.

47:35And that sort of goes into what people are talking about, about the lack of youth. Because how can he pick youth when he can't afford to lose? If he can't pick Mainu and Agate and play them into form because he might lose games playing them in. Look, essentially, I put Mainu in the midfield and I dropped Casemiro. I lose to Spurs, I draw to Everton, but then I beat Palace and I win the next three. So I lose to Spurs, I draw to Everton and then I go and win four games in a row because Manu settled. So Spurs and Everton, he's just getting used to it. And then by the third game, we're up and running.

48:11We're playing really well. The problem is if he loses to Spurs and draws to Everton, everyone's screaming and hammer him out and the pressure's on the team again. So it explains itself, Patrick, very, very well. He's chasing results. He cannot, cannot. I don't, and I agree with that. I don't think if you put Manu in the team tomorrow, he would have a worldie. I think he would do okay. And in the next game, he would do better. And in the third game, he'd do better than that. And by the third or fourth game, we'd have the proper menu back. But it's a great point. I don't think Amrim can risk that.

48:46He'd rather go with, Casemiro is going to give me a steady six or seven. Bruno is going to give me a steady six or seven. Go with me. I might roll an eight, but I might roll a four. And if I roll a four, you know, I'm under huge pressure again. there isn't any i don't think amram would say this in an interview what he will say is in a different and amram's very good at this so when amram says i can't pick maynew because even though he's training really well casemiro and bruno are doing really well i haven't got a space for him what he also might mean by that is casemiro and bruno i know what i'm getting maynew needs time and he might be better than them, but he needs time to adjust.

49:27I haven't got the time. I haven't got the time. I haven't got the time to develop him. I haven't got the time to get him up to form. I'd rather go with Casemiro and Bruno who do what they say. They're on seal. They do exactly what they say on the tin. Whereas a menu, you know, it's a little bit like being in a bar, isn't it? Right. You're in a bar. You're having a drink. You're single looking to mingle. and across the bar, a decent looking person smiles at you and you think, are they looking at someone else? And you look back, they're still looking at you. And you think, they're pretty decent.

50:06I think I'll go on over and talk to them. And as you're just about to do it, you look to the other area of the bar and there's an absolute stunner. And you go, that's too much like hard work. I'll go and talk to them. and we've all done it in various ways in life we've all taken the path that's the least resistance even though the path that's harder will lead to better rewards and I think at the moment Maynou is a path to bigger rewards that Amram can't afford to take because he's got to take the quick route but at some point that's got to change because the long-term plan cannot be Maynou, cannot be Bruno and Casemiro but maybe he'll bypass that plan maybe he'll go, I don't actually have the time so let's move him on let's bring Anderson and somebody else in we'll have to wait and see

51:03I think I might have said we lost to Forrest we didn't lose to Forrest of course we drew Bruno and Casemiro have a certain class that can't be taught, says Kai uh kobe kobe is a reactive player who needs to be proactive amram is i've done that one as well uh there we go okay lovely show this morning really appreciated that don't get i've got ben foster on the show at two o 'clock so uh normally on a thursday we'll be able to ask all about menu and incomings midfielders sale talk all that is on at two o 'clock with beth and ben um i don't know what's happening with the eight o 'clock show tonight because terry's away and I'm on That's Football with Bundesliga stuff.

51:43So watch the space with that. Might do something at six or something like that. But yeah, Bundesliga tonight live on That's Football, of course. And well, blink and you'll miss it. We're going to be live at like half ten tomorrow for Countdown to Kickoff. Very early game tomorrow, half past twelve. So excited. Thanks everyone for tuning in as always. Please do smash a like on the video. And if you want a bit more Premier League preview stuff, win, lose or draw with me and Robbie going through all the Premier League games of the weekend is up on that football now as well. Have a great day, everyone.

52:13Stay safe. And I'll speak to you all in a bit. Take care.