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13 Nov 2025 · 51m · 21 chapters

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239: Mainoo Transfer Plea! Adeyemi BID! Solskjaer BACKS Amorim!

In short

The episode is a Manchester United transfer and tactics discussion focused on January midfield and potential attacking moves. Topic: Fabrizio Romano-linked claim that Manchester United will only consider selling midfielder Kobbie Mainoo (spelled “Maynou”) if they decide to act in January; Napoli are on his list, but United are currently unwilling to let him go. The host argues Mainoo’s camp wants “play me or let me go,” because he’s not getting starts and risks rust.

Notable examples

Harry Maguire’s earlier “bench then return” pattern is contrasted with Mainoo’s situation; Sheffield Wednesday’s loan success for Harry Amass is cited as the model. Guest/agent angle: George Mendes is said to have exchanged with United about Dortmund winger/No.10 Karim Adeyemi, who wants a long-term Dortmund contract with a £70m release clause; the host also links Adeyemi’s personality concerns to past Sancho issues.

Key claims

Solskjaer praises Amorim’s low-possession, counter/vertical style as “horrible to face,” and United’s compact defending makes them hard to break down.

Guests

none named in the provided transcript (the show is hosted by Mark Oldbridge; Ben Jacobs is teased for a later segment).

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Chapters

0:00

Discussion on Maynou and Transfer Plea

Exploring Maynou's situation with Manchester United and his desire to play.

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1:18

Discussion on Maynou and Transfer Plea

Exploring Maynou's situation with Manchester United and his desire to play.

“We've also been linked to Adiemi, which brings a massive smile to my face because I watch a lot of the Bundesliga this season.”
2:40

Analyzing Midfielder's Situation

In-depth discussion on the implications of Manu's potential departure.

“And don't forget that we have got Ben Jacobs at 145.”
4:50

Consequences of Not Playing Maynou

The potential negative effects of not giving Maynou playing time.

“And he's not even getting that at the moment.”
6:40

Loan Options for Maynou

Examining potential loan opportunities for Maynou to gain experience.

“but he's playing in the championship every week on loan.”
8:10

Transfer Rumors: Adeyemi's Situation

Discussing Adeyemi's transfer rumors and his performance at Dortmund.

“I think I think he'd be a fool to sit there and go, I'm just going to wait for my chance.”
10:00

Personal Challenges for Adeyemi

Analyzing Adeyemi's emotional challenges and comparison with past players.

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14:00

Evaluating Adyemi and the Transfer Market

A deep dive into the potential of player Adyemi and Manchester United's transfer strategies.

“I think he will mature into, as I said at the start of the show, I think he's good enough that he can be like O'Sullivan.”
23:31

Solskjaer on Amorim's System

Discussion around Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's insights on Ruben Amorim's coaching tactics and their effectiveness.

“Maybe I'll tell him that's going to happen and it'll make him play better or something like that.”
28:01

Solskjaer's Insights on Team Strategy

Explore Solskjaer's comments on Manchester United's strategic gameplay.

“And then what we like to do with the Bruno and the Casemiro is count quickly, counter quickly into our quicker players like Mbume for sure and Kunja.”
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29:41

Lenny Oro's Development and Future

Discuss Lenny Oro's potential and future in football.

“And I know he's been dropped for Maguire a few times.”
31:37

Loan Strategies for Young Players

Debate on the best loan options for young talent at Manchester United.

“And some people have a problem with that because it's like nobody likes to think that their player might go to Real Madrid.”
33:33

Midfield Dynamics and Player Fatigue

Analyze midfield player fatigue and the need for more depth.

“coming in to play second fiddle to Bruno and Casemiro, says Cameron Lane.”
35:01

Manchester United January Transfer Needs

The hosts argue United should loan out Mainoo only if they sign a midfielder who will actually play, and explain why Casemiro and Bruno tire when playing 90 minutes weekly with under 50% possession.

“And he goes, well, I don't want you to because I'll only have three midfielders.”
38:15

Challenges Ahead for Manchester United

Discuss upcoming fixtures and the sustainability of the team's playing style.

42:01

Analyzing Team Fatigue and Performance

Learn how team fatigue impacts performance and game strategy in football.

“You're always concentrating, but you haven't got the ball.”
46:05

Scott McTominay's Impact and Role

Explore the implications of Scott McTominay's departure and his role in midfield.

“And again, four days before we play Leeds and then three days until we play Burnley and then it's the FA Cup weekend.”
50:08

Building a Future Without Legacy Players

Discuss the necessity of moving on from long-tenured players for team improvement.

“I did actually see something this morning about, I don't know whether I can find where it came from.”
56:03

Discussion on Team Building and Player Value

Explore the complexities of building a football team around key players and their market value.

56:54

Upcoming Show and Player Insights

Learn about the upcoming live show and discussions on player transfers and attacks.

57:19

Upcoming Show and Player Insights

Learn about the upcoming live show and discussions on player transfers and attacks.

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0:00Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a$30 coin pack for just$10. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Void where prohibited. Visit SpinQuest.com for more details. Save big money on everything you need at Menards. Your roof is the first line of defense against the elements, and it enhances the appearance of your home's exterior.

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1:17We're going to be starting off about Maynews transfer plea. We've also been linked to Adiemi, which brings a massive smile to my face because I watch a lot of the Bundesliga this season. That's football is the home of the Bundesliga. and Adeyemi is a player I was literally talking about on the highlight show last week about he's got a move in him. He's a player that can be not... I could see Adeyemi going to like Liverpool and being the next Mo Salah, you know, and that sounds incredible and I'm probably going to get clicked, but I genuinely think he is at 23 going to go somewhere and be really good if he makes the right move.

1:51Why couldn't it be Man United? People say we've got Mborma, we've got Kunja. Yeah, we've got Mborma, we've got Kunja. What else have we got? If anything happens, we've got Mount. We've got Xerxi. Bruno doesn't play there. Ahmad plays right wing back. You know, Avi Amy could go up front as well. So I quite like it. I do quite like it. We'll talk about that. Also, Solskjaer has been speaking with the overlap crew and he's spoken about McTominay, what a mistake that was. He's spoken about Marcus Rashford and he's also spoken about Amrim's style of play and how he likes it. Of course, he bloody likes it.

2:24It's very similar to what he did. You don't have possession. You're hard to score against and you rely on moments. So Solskjaer, Glading, Amorim, we'll talk about that in a little bit depth as well. Got a few other bits to get into too. But let me start off by saying, please do smash a like on the video and subscribe. And don't forget that we have got Ben Jacobs at 145. So we'll be delving into that Anderson midfield story in greater depth. But I want to talk about the midfield straight away. And I want to start off with Maynou. Now this is coming in from our source. We've not had much over the season really.

2:58we had a lot at the end of last season and a lot over the summer. But as I say, this is coming in first and foremost from Fabrizio Romano, who says that Manu remains on Napoli's list who are looking for a midfielder this January. Manu's move depends on Manchester United, who are unwilling to let him go at the moment. So effectively, probably what we basically know, Manu would like to go, Man United won't let him go and there are clubs that want him uh further to that what we understand and i actually said this on sunday night that we're waiting on a big story in this international break i actually thought there might be two again like there was last year but we haven't really had the one the one i was expecting was a little bit more around what we're putting here now around the main news situation it's coming to a head man united is starting to look to the summer and to January hopefully in relation to a midfielder and this is the this is the time to do it this is the this is the time where this is the last time people get off um we've got 10 games to play and we're not even in Europe or the Carabao Cup we've got 10 games to play basically by the start of January so the schedule is intense this two weeks is downtime for the board and everybody else to assess what they're going to do in January but it's not just incomings it's outgoings as well Now, as you know, Xerxes and Manu are not international duty.

4:20So this is a really key period for them to sit down and discuss with Manchester United what is happening. I expected that to come out this week. Maybe it'll come out next week. But what I can tell you is that from Manu's camp, they are very much at a point where they are just saying, let me go or play me. It's that simple. And I would argue that they have actually got every right to do that. And it might frustrate some people, but the reality is, what I was told is, is that even if over the next 10 games, Man United are cruising the 3-0 up against Everton and he brings Manu on for Bruno for the last half an hour, and then Man United are cruising against Wolves and Manu gets 45 minutes, is that really going to satisfy the itch of Manu who wants to play football?

5:08And he's not even getting that at the moment. He's not even getting the half an hour or the 45 minutes. so even if that did happen and the results go the way we think they can over the next 10 games and Manu gets a little bit more game time is he actually going to start if he came if he comes on for half an hour will he start will he get a start and that's the thing that people are missing here this is basically start me or let me go and I don't think he's going to start him to be completely honest with you so the ball is going to be in the in the club's court but from Manu's situation and Obviously, someone just said, what about Zerksy?

5:42We're talking about Manu. We're talking about midfield because obviously, if United let Manu go, they've got to replace him. And I think that's sort of where we are now. You know, who are the villains in this piece? Well, there isn't a villain. But who are the gatekeepers in this piece? It's Ruben Amrim and it's the board. If we want a midfielder in January, then Manu needs to go. And Manu does need to go for his own ability. So we're not even playing the game of, oh, it's sacrilege to let Cobby go. He wants to go because he needs to play football. And Man United have basically got this period from today until January the 1st to use him or lose him.

6:22The question is, will they say you're not going? Which, as we've seen with Harry Amas at Sheffield Wednesday, the feedback is incredible. Like, I know a couple of Sheffield Wednesday fans, but you don't even need to look at it. They absolutely love him. The only problem they've got is that they're going to have to send him back. So that loan deal for him is absolutely incredible. Championship, by the way, I know Sheckold Wednesday probably will get relegated, but he's playing in the championship every week on loan. They love him. It's doing really, really well. That's what a loan deal should be.

6:51So I think with Maynou, I'd be very surprised if this doesn't come out in the next few days, that that demand is there, like play me or let me go. Because ultimately, if you don't let me go in January and you continue to pick Bruno and Casemiro, which he will, then you're basically sabotaging my career. And some people might say that's harsh. He's got a contract. His contract's crap, by the way. I don't want to add that in, but his contract is rubbish. He's on like, I don't even know why I speculate, but I think it's below 40 grand a week. So he's on crap money. He's in a bad situation to negotiate a new contract because he's not playing.

7:31He's not being picked and they won't let him go. So he's sort of in a situation, and also he's very rusty. I mean, Manu is like the bike that's been left out over the winter. You know, it's just he is getting rustier and rustier by the day. So that conversation will be going on this week. And it's basically going to be Manu saying, look, either play me or let me go. Not in a demand way. It's almost like, are you going to play me or are you just going to keep me on the bench as a backup in case you have an injury crisis, which is not fair on me and it's not fair on my development at 20. So there are outs for Manu.

8:04There is Napoli. There is West Ham. There is lots of stuff. But it's ultimately going to come down to whether Manchester United want to do anything about it. But tell me he's wrong. I don't think he is wrong. I don't think he's wrong at all. I think I think he'd be a fool to sit there and go, I'm just going to wait for my chance. He's not going to get the chance. Not going to happen. It has happened before. I've got to say Harry Maguire at times has looked done. And then a couple of injuries at centre back and he's back. but he's up against two people who don't seem to get injured casemiro even if he got injured he might go with agate he's up against bruno amram said it himself he's up against bruno and bruno never gets injured so i personally think bruno is going to stay here for the whole season and play every week maynew isn't going to get picked you loan maynew out you bring somebody in like conor Gallagher or whatever and happy days because if Bruno got injured you could still play Casemiro Ogarte, Casemiro Gallagher, you could even put Mason Mount in there, there's things you can do so look I think United need to let Manu go and then they can bring somebody else in but we are still dealing with a club that's owned by the Glazers and I'm pretty sure they'll sit there and go so we spend a little bit of money and main you can go or we keep main you and we don't spend any money and also he's on really low wages i mean think about it from this point of view and i think it is a very good point you let main you go to napoli napoli will be like thank you very much we'll cover all of his wages because you know it's not like it's not a it's not a rashford going to barcelona or sancho going to villa on 300 grand a week we're probably you know i know i know i know barcelona are covering off rashford's wages but we didn't get a loan fee he's scoring goals he's getting assists and all they're doing is covering his wage because it's so bloody big main who goes to napoli they're not going to argue about anything they're going to go what he's on 30 grand a week yeah we'll pay those wages so what's going on everyone it's bluff here and you know what's more american than america's 250th birthday supporting american-owned companies like spin quest america's number one social casino with over a thousand games like live dealer blackjack and craps.

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11:04Oil doesn't just power your car, it powers the systems that make and deliver your medications, and when supply slows, access becomes less predictable. The difference between panic and peace is preparedness with Jace. The Jace case is a doctor-prescribed emergency supply of essential medications and prescription antibiotics delivered right to your door so you're already ready when you need it. Get your Jace case today at jace.com. What I'm saying is, if Man United went for Conor Gallagher and let Maynou go, Maynews probably 40 grand a week Connor Gallagher 100 grand a week so it's going to cost us to bring Connor Gallagher in just on wages so you can see why the Glazers might go let's not let him go so look we'll have to wait and see but logically for me let me know your thoughts I'm at the point now where I think at the end of August it was sort of like get your head down and work we don't want you to go I think now at the end of November or mid November it's like you know this situation has changed he's not trusted he's not getting minutes he's getting worse by the game because he's not getting minutes he needs game time he's a man united player get him out on loan i'd actually be excited by may new going on loan i'd actually watch him play for napoli that's how much i rate the player and how interested i'd be to see if he can get back if may new went out on loan i'd watch him i'd watch him play because he's still our player he's still he's only 20 he's still got a future but he needs bloody game time you know i wouldn't even be opposed to sending him on loan to a championship club he probably wouldn't he'd probably have a problem with that himself but i don't know whether you're with me on that i do feel like just get him out playing games he's our player you know forget this bloody battle between amram and manu and what what the bloody hell is going on i don't know get him out playing football he needs to play football and it's not going to happen at man united simple um let me talk to you we'll come back to that because we've got a lot to get through this morning we've got solskjaer's comments as well but this caught my eye this morning and i like it a lot So coming in from Bild in Germany, Adeyemi is causing a stir at Dortmund, not only on the pitch, but also on a personal level.

13:10His emotional outbursts and strange relationship with Kovac are raising questions. There has been an exchange between George Mendes and Manchester United about a move for Adeyemi. Further to that, Adeyemi wants a long term contract at Dortmund with a release clause of£70 million. Now, look, I'll be completely honest here. I'm a hypocrite. I'm a hypocrite because what draws your attention to that article beyond, I think Amy's a good player, George Mendes might be in conversations with Manchester United, is also the issues on a personal level and the emotional outbursts and the strange relationships.

13:47We have been here with a player from Dortmund before in relation to Jadon Sancho. But my... Excuse me. Let me just straight out.

14:05but i would balance that with the fact that i completely agree that when you've got a player that and he got subbed off i think it was against union berlin no it's cologne he got subbed off against cologne and he was not very happy at all um but he has been brilliant for dortmund this season and i think he's arguably their best player i also think at 23 he's gonna go somewhere in my opinion, like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, somewhere like that. And I think he'll go trajectory level. I think he will mature into, as I said at the start of the show, I think he's good enough that he can be like O'Sullivan.

14:44I mean, that's a big statement, I know, but I genuinely think he's got that. And I think you need to watch him a little bit more to understand where I'm coming from. But I think Abbey Amy's a fantastic player. Obviously, I'd want us to do our homework around personality, etc. But it's not like nobody else wanted Jadon Sancho. This is the thing I always say. People go, oh, we don't want another Sancho. Who else wanted Sancho? We went for him for two years. And I mean, this is something that never gets discussed about Sancho. We went for him one summer. Nobody went for him. And then we went for him again.

15:17And all that really happened is Dortmund just played us for a price. And we ended up paying it. But nobody else ever wanted Sancho. Nobody ever wanted Sancho apart from us. in the case of Adyemi I genuinely think Munich Barcelona and a top Premier League club will be interested in him so you know that that sort of lessens the risk of anything around emotion you know personality etc people say where would he fit in at Manchester United but if we're if we're projecting to be a big club for the next five years then why are we buying all these 16 17 year olds like it works in the first team as well you can't just go we've got we've got Mbemo and we've got Kunya so we're sorted like with all with all due respect Lissandro Martinez was bought a few years ago was sorted for the next five years half of that he's been injured you can't you can't predict what's going to happen and also what if they start playing badly what if they turn into a flop so I look beyond Kunya and Mbemo and them two number 10 positions and I think yeah Ahmad can play there but surely he's going to be the right wing back.

16:26Yeah, Mason Mount can play there, but when's he going to be fit? Xerxes is going to be gone. Bruno never plays there. So I do think that there is capacity for another player in that team, especially if you're playing Champions League football. And also you can move people around as we've seen with Cesc. So look, it's early days on that one, but it's interesting that George Mendes is now involved with Adiemi and he has apparently had some conversations with Manchester United. Where we would get the money from for that becomes you know massively challenging but we're early days conversation on it i i would really like him and obviously jim says what about the center midfield but sorry jim uh i think with regards to center midfield we we need to buy two midfielders of course we do um and interestingly i saw something this morning and i forget where it came from chelsea wharton there There was an article this morning about Chelsea and Adam Wharton and how they really, really rate him.

17:26And they're going to go hard to get him. And there was even talk of January, but more realistically, they'll go for him in the summer. And this is exactly what I'm talking about. And that's a big story because whether it comes true or not, it's exactly what we've been talking about. We will not have a free run at Wharton, Anderson, Stiller and Belaber and be able to sign two. We won't have a free run. and that Chelsea story, you can use it for everybody, every one of those targets I've just said because one of the days where you look at Chelsea and go, well, they don't need Wharton. They've got Caicedo, they've got Enzo, they've got Lavia, they've got Rhys James, they've got Cole Palmer, they've got God knows who else.

18:04That won't stop Chelsea going for Adam Wharton because their mentality is, and we've seen it already, look at how many wingers they've got. They'll get rid of someone very, very quickly. Maduaki, you can go to Arsenal, you know, we'll get Ganacho and Gittins. Estavao as well. You know, they won't just go, we've got Caicedo and Enzo. We don't need a midfielder. They'll go, he looks like he's going to be really good. Let's get him. You know, we've got loads of games. Let's get him. And they will do it. Chelsea will do it. And to a certain extent, Arsenal might, Liverpool might, Man City might. So when we're talking about midfielders, we do need to buy two.

18:38But I think there's this weird naivety that we're just going to choose two from Baleba, Stilla, Anderson and Wharton. And I'm telling you now, But Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal all probably get Champions League football, which means it's another£100 million of pure profit going into clubs that don't actually need it other than to spend it on players, as we saw in the previous summer. So I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool have a bad season that they go Elliot Anderson. We'll get him in. Yeah, we've got McAllister. Yeah, we've got Graven Burch. Yeah, we've got Curtis Jones. Yes, we've got Sabozlai.

19:11Yes, we've got Virts, but we want him as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal went, you know what? Like the look of that stiller. yeah we've got Zubamendi yeah we've got Rice but Norgard yeah Stilla Stilla just adds a little bit more to our midfield as well so these players could be gone very very quickly to rivals gone are the days where you go they don't need one they bloody do but going back to what the question actually was Adyemi what about midfield well if we think like that we're going to sink we can't just go we need two midfielders let's leave everything else we haven't even built a first 11 yet but we do need to build a squad if we want to compete absolutely so look let's see what happens with it it's tentative it's early days it could be Man United being used by Mendes who knows but I would be very excited about United going for somebody like Andy Amy and it does pose the question really that beyond the midfield we are going to have to do I would hate people to think when we've got two midfielders we're sorted we're winning the league I still think there's a hell of a lot of work to do on that team and as we saw at the weekend and it's not really been discussed enough.

20:15Kunja's performance at the weekend was crap. I'm a massive fan of Kunja, but it got forgotten about because De Ligt got the late equaliser, but Kunja was crap against Spurs. And why was he crap? You know, it was a bad game. I'll tell you why he was crap, because he's human. He's a human being. And footballers are not, you know, when we're doing the charity stream or the career mode, you know, why are they playing badly? Are you computer generated? because the controller, me, is crap. But a human being can have a bad game. Now, the very, very best players have very few bad games, but Kunja had a bad game at the weekend.

20:55I even heard somebody said, oh, the United Cursed is here already. You buy a good player and how long is it before they become a bad player? Well, that's not true. Kunja is just a flair player. He's a spark player and he got frustrated and the spark went out and he didn't have a very good game. So this is what I mean. We've got Kunja, we've got Mbemo, but they're not guaranteed to play well every week and they're not guaranteed to be fit every week. And look, what I'm saying is beyond the midfield, if I was in charge of Man United, I would still be looking to bring in nine players, nine good players.

21:30Some people might say less, some people might say more, but I would bring nine players in. We still need another striker. I still think we need at least another number 10 to compete, arguably two wide players, certainly two midfielders, certainly at least one centre-back. Obviously, we need another goalkeeper. So I think we need another nine players, ASAP, if we want to go where we want to go. And my standards, and I think that maybe your standards, are that we go to the very, very top of football. So that's why I think that one's very interesting. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here. And you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday?

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23:27Get your Jace case today at Jace.com. abbey amy clear clears kunya any day but embermo clears him says king wow yeah it's not really about that it's about a good player being available uh alum says amram in interview said next season bruno will be on rotation because he knows new midfielders coming in i never saw that at all um what he actually said was um he was asked about whether he would rotate bruno fernandez and he basically said that we'll have to see what happens next season with European football. Maybe I'll tell him that's going to happen and it'll make him play better or something like that.

24:05But yeah, I don't think Bruno Flans will be here next year. So I don't think we can say he's going to get rotated because I genuinely don't think he'll be here next year. Let me just move around a little bit here because Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been on the overlap this week and he was asked about Ruben Amman's system. Now, I don't know who was on the overlap. I think it was Scholes, not Carragher. Neville, Keane, Jill Scott and Ian Wright, I think. So I'm trying to think out of those people who don't like the Amerim system. I mean, Paul Scholes has said he prefers 4-3-3. And obviously, you know, Amerim system has come under scrutiny quite a lot.

24:42This is what Oli had to say. He said, in relation to Amerim system, it's horrible to face when it's well executed. man united seems to win more matches when they have less than 50 possession now a lot of people in the comments have said oh ollie knows ball ollie you know this that and the other listen to what he's saying on amram system it's horrible to face when it's well executed manchester united seem to win more matches when they have less than 50 possession now what i like and i liked i'm sure i liked it i'm sure i liked it okay um what i've noticed some people have started doing well um is calling this um

25:27they've started calling it vertical vertical teams are struggling when we play more vertical do you know what vertical is it's long ball people are people are trying to rename long ball ollie's talking sense ollie knows ball we're playing more vertical and teams are struggling with it call it what it is we're playing bloody long ball come on we're parking the bus and we're playing long ball we can all see it and that's exactly what solskjaer is saying he's basically saying it's a nightmare to play against when it's done well uh man you know i had a winning a lot of games without with less than 50 we've spoken about this multiple times i watched us against spurs in the first half and I was like I don't think we're going to concede you you look at the pitch when Spurs are on the attack and all you can see is red shirts it's a back five it's four ahead of them decent goalkeeper and you think how are you going to score against that and then we win the ball and it's this quick long vertical we've got a corner or we've had a shot on goal so I think it's um I think it's uh I think Solskjaer is absolutely correct and he basically did I don't know what the possession stats were for solskjaer when he took us to second but we all know what oliball was it was a low block it was um maguire what was it hoover harry and victor the vacuum stuck in everyone close to them to protect themselves from being done for pace uh mcfrey in front of them two fullbacks pulled in and then counter moments so that works really really well under Solskjaer and some of those players are still here so they'll adapt to this very very well but it is a night you know you know what I liked about what Solskjaer said is it is a nightmare to play against and I've visibly watched it on the watch along how many times have we got a back five with two or three players in front of it it's hard to break down it's I've not heard anybody call it anti-football thankfully and hopefully that won't happen but it's very difficult to break down especially when you compare it to a brighton or or a newcastle or not a newcastle a brighton or or a liverpool or a chelsea you know these teams with their them they're more higher up the pitch there's space in behind there's no space in behind man united you can't get in behind man united we're just so we're so compact and deep and we've got so many numbers most of the goals we're conceding do tend to come from crosses and deflections because that's the only way to really score against us put the ball in the mixer and hope for a deflection or someone gets on the end of it because it's it's really difficult to get into it so i think i think solskjaer's right i think i think we are hard to score against because of the way we play and then we counter really really quickly um i thought it was a really interesting comment because i think it's true i've sort of been trying to allude to it in the watch along for a while now We're really deep and there's so many others and it's really difficult to break that down.

28:31And then what we like to do with the Bruno and the Casemiro is count quickly, counter quickly into our quicker players like Mbume for sure and Kunja. Yeah, it's effective. but I think the next 10 games are going to be really interesting because if I was Wolves if I was Everton if I was Crystal Palace there's no way I'm walking into that I mean Crystal Palace will be a very interesting game because they basically do the same as us Crystal Palace have a back five put three or four players in front of it and then counter a pace so I think the Palace game will be really interesting it's almost like who can score the corner first and then the opposition have to come out so there could be some games of chess um i wouldn't you know again everton might come and do that as well so yeah um gb says it's not effective it's survival well it is we're a counter-attacking team and it is very effective um the hope is that we keep winning and it keeps being interesting um but yeah very interesting comment from solskjaer there you also had a couple of other things that um i was interested to bring into the show as well um he i've spoke to you about that one uh oh just very quickly lenny oro 20 today i mean happy birthday to lenny oro we don't do that for every player of course not a bloody birthday shout out but look one the reason i wanted to quickly bring that in about lenny oro is 20 today only just 20 you know menu only 20 um dorgu only just 21 and these are players that all right you know i'm not rubbing it in with menu but these are players that have had quite a bit of football for manchester united two years is a long time um a year is a long time in football and you know you think about lenny oro for me tell me i'm wrong lenny oro is our starting center back lenny oro with the lits is uh you know definitely a starting center back for me I know he didn't start against Spurs.

30:39Maguire did. And I know he's been dropped for Maguire a few times. And I think that does tend to happen because of Amrim's obsession with experience and sometimes the threat of height. But, I mean, that is scary good, isn't it? That Lenny Oro is only just 20 halfway through this season. He's been here for a year and a half already. and in two years time, which is another two seasons, he'll still only be 22. Development-wise, benefit, brilliant. I think he will go to Real Madrid at some point. I've always said that. I don't think it really matters, but I do think he'll go to Real Madrid. I listened to an interview with him last week where he said Man United's the best decision for now.

31:27I'd be very surprised if Leni Oro stayed at Man United for 15 years or 12 years and went into his 30s, I think he will move at some point. And I think that was part of the deal, really. And some people have a problem with that because it's like nobody likes to think that their player might go to Real Madrid. But where we are as a football club at the moment, in three or four years' time, he probably would go to Real Madrid. What we need to do is make sure that when that happens, we make a lot of money out of it or when that happens we can offer an alternative of we're the best team in england we're competing for the champions league so i'm comfortable with that i don't i don't with no i don't i don't think with any player we sign i want to go you're going to be here for life i think we have to provide that platform um but yeah i mean he's not going to go anywhere for three four years is he anyway and that's the benefit for us we get three or four years of this player developing getting better and better and better which i think is really exciting i want to talk about a few few more things from solskjaer but i've just realized i've had a few super chats coming in here that i need to catch up with um miles says laugh my ass off at those saying adi amy won't cut it in the prem elements of risk you get with every player i rate him highly only way to find out um martin galane says if main news loaned it needs to be premier league for premier league experience see i think they'd go opposite to that I think that they won't loan into a Premier League club because they won't want the doorstep embarrassment but we literally did it with Rashford last year it doesn't really matter he won't play against us it doesn't really matter I think he will want to go to Napoli anyway and I think he probably will go there I agree with you though if he goes to Napoli and does well how does that benefit us last season next season because we all know the Premier League is quicker than the Italian league.

33:25So I agree. I think I would like to see him go on loan to a Premier League club, to be fair, but I think United will try and avoid that. What's the incentive for a player coming in to play second fiddle to Bruno and Casemiro, says Cameron Lane. But I think that's why it needs to happen, Cameron, because Agata and Mainu are definitively second best to Casemiro and Bruno. Absolutely. We can tell that. Half an hour a month. you know they're fit and they're not being used so amarin as is right doesn't rate them so what you do is you say to amarin right hey everybody lady luck here and we're celebrating america's 250th birthday now all summer long i'm going to be celebrating by playing on spinquest.com which is an american-owned social casino it obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps, head on over to spinquest.com.

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34:57Delivery available on qualifying orders. We're going to loan Maynu out. And he goes, well, I don't want you to because I'll only have three midfielders. And you go, no, no, no, no. We're going to loan Maynu out. But what do you want us to bring in in January? and you've got to tell us somebody that you'd actually use, don't tell us someone that you're just going to sit on the bench. Tell us someone that you're going to use, and that's what you do. And it still might be Casemiro and Bruno, but it'll be less because Casemiro and Bruno cannot play 90 minutes once a week. I've seen it. They can't do it.

35:29It's impossible. So we saw it against Spurs. We've seen it against Forrest. They get tired. Casemiro gets tired, definitely. And I'll tell you why they get tired in a minute. So this is why he said it's absolutely got to happen in January for another reason as well. Maynou's not being used, so you let him go, but you say, tell it's a player that you will use because you clearly need to use somebody. And when that new player comes in, it's an Amarin pick. Maynou is not an Amarin pick and Agate is not an Amarin pick. So that's how you do that. Somebody just said, why does Casemiro get tied with one game a week?

36:06stylistically where we have less than 50 % possession i don't know whether you've ever played the game but trust me when you've got the ball you get less tired when you haven't got the ball psychologically you get a lot more tired less than 50 % possession in a game is a lot of work it's a lot of work and also the way we play is a lot of running i've taken on board what delit said last week and i actually understand it so when he said after the spurs game we're getting tired in the second half. It's there to be ridiculed because we've only got one game a week. But our subs aren't necessarily good enough.

36:43But the way we play football, the Premier League is still intense. It's still a very intense league. And the way we play it, no one ever gets a breather. It's 90 minutes nonstop basketball. It's to me, to you, it's Chuckle Brothers FC. So you imagine Casemiro in the Man United midfield. it's like there is never a period of let's just slow it down and keep the ball it's always they're attacking we're attacking they're attacking we're attacking and the way we attack it's so direct it's like the ball can be with luke shaw oh it's in the corner with embermo as a midfielder you can be 10 meters away from luke shaw on the edge of our box and then bumo's got it all there and you've got to you've got to run to the other edge of the other box and then that breaks down and then you've got to go back again.

37:30So there's a hell of a lot. There might not be a lot of possession, but there's a hell of a lot of running in that midfield for the likes of Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes. Now, if you just had 5 % more possession, that ball from Luke Shaw might go into Dorgou, might come into your feet, play into Bruno. Bruno might switch it to the right wing-back, who might give it back to De Ligt, who gives it back into the midfield, give it into Cunha, he plays it back to Bruno, back to you. you know it's just possession for five minutes you're catching a breather you're focused we're not doing that we're going bang bang bang bang so there's a lot of running required so we definitely do need another midfielder um and we would we would make subs if you trusted them uh tom grant says so that's to answer cameron's question what's the incentive for a player coming in to play second fiddle to bruno and casemiro i think amrin's crying out for a player to play second fiddle to Bruno and Casemiro who's got the legs who he likes what positions can Adiemi play how could we utilize him and what's his price tag looking forward to Ben Jacobs it's happening today yes Tom quarter to two we're live today I'm looking forward to it as well got some questions um Adiemi would primarily be a number 10 in our system um potentially you could use him as a false as well um arguably you could use him as a left wing back as well or a right wing back because he's not dissimilar to amad in the sense that he could do that but i think he'd be i think be a very interesting profile of player i don't see it happening to be honest with you i can see him going to i think i think he'll end up at munich or barcelona um i think he's that type of a player which is why man united should be looking at it um abel says hi mark two days ago you gave a shout out to abby ale ethiopia's top man united content creator he truly appreciates the recognition from a fellow red devil and sends his heart full thanks thank you thank you abel and thank you abby thank you very much um tunya bad cause no one what knows what they are doing says keel robinson shout out to our women's team in the champions league beating psg says tom grant yes well done to them um i probably would have watched that last night i wouldn't i had the eggs car show didn't i but um yeah i mean look it's it's very good and women's football is on the on the on the on the arc and um i know a lot of you really do get into uh the women's uh side so big shout out to them beating psg last night i don't know the context of how good psg are in women's football but i think manchester united in the context of the premier league we're sort of top four aren't we're not quite the best but i think we're sort of top four

40:17patrick lynch says in my opinion best foreign league for a menu loan would be the bundesliga not as intense to the premier league but it's the closest of the european leagues in comparison 100 i mean obviously we do the game every friday and we have the highlights and everything like that and um at times the bundes league can can feel quicker than the than the premier league it's not it's not the premier league is the quickest and most intense league in the world absolutely and i think the bundles league is the closest but it can feel sometimes like it's quicker because their referees let the game flow more so it feels like it's you know a game that doesn't stop and start feels quicker but what i would say is that i just can't see i can't see that happening um i can't see where he would go dortmund would be good but they wouldn't do it they've got a lot in the midfield bayern don't need to do it and i can't see him going to a leipzig or a leverkusen so i don't think there'd be a club in the bundlesliga patrick really um class of 99 says agree on the fatigue do you think it's unsustainable well i think this is a really interesting thing and i know it's more of an eight o 'clock show and i've got these solskjaar comments to come back to but maybe we can pick it up on the eight o 'clock show tonight actually um but i was talking to that wasn't a trump by the way it's my hand on a piece of wood that sounds even worse it was a trump um no it's like this

41:46um polished wood that's even worse as well just digging a hole here so i was looking at man united's fixtures i've got it again um cost of 99 i was looking at my united's fixtures over the next sort of christmas festive period and sustainability of this style of football it's very very tiring like the way brentford play and the way crystal palace play it is really tiring because you don't have the ball and as i say anybody who's played any level of football whether it's five aside, down the park with your mates, if the opposition have loads of the ball, it's really difficult because you're tired.

42:29You're always concentrating, but you haven't got the ball. You're always less tired when you've got the ball. And we're sort of playing that way this year. As I said on the show last night, we averaged about 54 % possession last season. We're averaging 50 this year. It's dropped by 4%, 3.5%, 4 % in one season. that's that's more work that's that's the ball and and also let's be clear that's that's not just a drop off in three and a half percent that's the opposition having three and a half percent more of the ball so you've got to be more concentrated more organized more physicality and i think at the moment one game a week we are and i do wonder whether amrim's done this on purpose whether he's gone, what's the best way to guarantee you're going to win games?

43:20Part of the bus and counter. But you wouldn't be able to do that if you're in Europe because your players would get injured and tired and exhausted because it's too much mentality. I don't think we could do this twice a week. We couldn't do this, what we did against Forrest, then go away to bloody Roma and do it there. And we wouldn't be able to do it. So maybe Amorim has gone, right, let's analyze 20 years of football i need to get champions league football what's the best way of doing it best way of doing it compact deep counter but it's going to take a lot of energy to do that but we've only got one game a week so maybe maybe it's a conscious thing but i've definitely noticed and it's i do shout out to lit for it saying they were tired after the spurs game i have i have sort of analyzed it and it's like you can see you can see bruno and casemiro in the last 20 minutes defensively they're really struggling.

44:15I think when we've got the ball and we go forward, you get a boost and we've seen that, but defensively they're struggling and he hasn't got the players that he trusts to bring on. So we're getting by at the moment, but you look at the schedule when we come back next week. We've got a Monday night game against Everton. Then we've got Crystal Palace on the Sunday. Then we've got West Ham on the Thursday. Then we've got Wolves on the Monday. Then we get a week off. then we get another week off like a week between wolves and bornness then there's six days between man united and villa then there's five days between us and newcastle um four days between newcastle and wolves what's up everybody it's bretsky and america is turning 250 and i can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, spinquest.com.

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46:34And I think that we are exerting a lot of energy in our performances at the moment. I mean, God, the last two games, we've had to go and get a draw at the end. You know, that takes a lot of energy as well. Tony says, what is more important, play, copy or a win? I think that's too literal, mate, because the answer is in your own question. I'm not saying sacrifice winning to start Kabi Meini. I'm saying let Kabi Meini go on loan and play football because he's a Man United player that we're not using and we are basically harming his development. Marlow says, Kunya is not suited for the current style of play.

47:15When and if Amrim will be able to implement his style, Kunya will thrive. Mount is certainly a better fit for that purpose at the moment, says Marlow. Thank you very much for that. OK, let me come back because I want to go through some. We went into a bit of an eight o 'clock show there. Maybe we can pick that up later. But there is still some bits that took from Solskjaer. He said that on Scott McTominay, I was almost shocked. How can you be almost shocked, by the way?

47:42Imagine that when he was reading it. McTominay's gone to Napoli. Well, I'll tell you what, Mrs. Solskjaer, I'm almost shocked about that. I'm not shocked, but I'm almost shocked. I nearly went, what? But then I went, what? Anyway, he says, I was almost shocked. I think you need a core of local players who know and understand the club. He's shown in Italy what a superb player he is. He has an excellent, excellent personality that you want within the club. So that was Oli in relation to McTominay going, who he loved. He loved Scott McTominay. And he did go on to say, actually, that he probably picked McTominay out of position because of the physicality of McTominay that was lacking in the team.

48:25So, again, you know, I find that really fascinating. You've got Oli Gunnar Solskjaer, who loved Scott McTominay, basically saying that, you know, he was shocked they got rid of him. But further to that, also, he probably did play him out of position because he was physical in the midfield because he didn't have players like that. So what Solskjaer is basically saying is even when he was here, the midfield was neglected and he had to play somebody out of position. Now, it's not quite the same as moving Bruno Fernandes from a number 10 into the midfield. But effectively, that's what Solskjaer is saying.

49:03I had to play McTominay out of midfield because I was lacking physicality in what I had. So how many years? I mean, there is a strong case to say that we've neglected the midfield since Michael Carrick left. You could even argue we've neglected it since Roy Keane left. I mean, some of us do agree that we never really replaced Roy Keane. Michael Carrick was a very good player to bring in, but it wasn't a Keane replacement. So it's a position. I mean, can you remember the summer of Vidal that we didn't do? I just feel like United and midfield is something that we've never really done. We've tried it.

49:39We've either ignored it or tried badly. Even Casemiro, at his age, was really a stopgap. It wasn't proper. Schweinsteiger, too old as well. Schneidlin, not good enough. But it's interesting that Solskjaer speaks about McTominay and says that, you know, shocked, almost shocked, whatever, that I was effectively playing him out of position because I needed his physicality in midfield. you know, we need to solve this midfield issue. Games are won and lost there. And yeah, 100%. I did actually see something this morning about, I don't know whether I can find where it came from. Sources concrete interest as Man United ready to re-sign Scott McTominay.

50:18Man United are one of the clubs eyeing up Napoli midfielder Scott McTominay after his superb form since moving to Serie A. That's coming from court offside. I mean, I don't know what... Would you... I think it's got to be a poll. Would you re-sign McTominay? Yes or no? Let me know in the chat. Would you re-sign Scott McTominay?

50:51I have answered this question before. And the answer is no. because as much as I think players like that are valuable, I agree with Solskjaer, they are valuable in the sense that they know what the club's all about. We have got a few players like that. We're keeping Harry Maguire for this. How many more cheerleaders do we need? Would Scott McTominay start for Manchester United is the answer I would ask. And that's why it would be a no from me. He doesn't start for Man United because he's not, as Solskjaer has now admitted, as we've all seen since he went to Napoli. He's not a midfielder, so he can't play in the midfield too.

51:31So that's my priority and you can't play there. He's a number 10, but he's not really the type of number 10 that we want in this system because Amarim doesn't want to play Bruno there because he's not mobile enough. So McTominay's not mobile enough and he's not got enough flair. So I don't think McTominay suits the Amarim system, so it's got to be a no. So, yeah, that would be it for me. I can see why we'll get linked to him leaving Napoli. But one, I don't think you should go back. Very rarely should you go back. And I don't think we should go back in this case. But also, he doesn't suit the system.

52:11It's like saying, would you bring Marcus Rashford back? No, for a lot of reasons. But mainly, he doesn't fit the system that Man United play because he's not a striker and he's not a number 10. So, no, it would be a big no from me on that one. Let's keep moving. Everybody's grooving. Amrion system we've spoken about. I've done that one. Yeah, this is what he said, Solskjaer. In my squad, Scott probably wasn't allowed to play in his best position enough. Was that because of Bruno? Yeah, Bruno and maybe the lack of physicality we had in midfield and legs we had in midfield. I mean, I know it's popular to sort of take a pop at Bruno at the moment, and I certainly would agree with you in relation to Bruno Fernandes playing as a midfielder, but I will anticipate it before somebody says it.

53:06Bruno blocking off another young United talent. Obviously, Bruno is blocking Maynou at the moment. We all know that. And from what Solskjaer said, Bruno was blocking McTominay playing as a number 10. In no way, in a million years, I'd be dropping Bruno as a number 10 for Scott McTominay. McTominay's position is a number 10, but I'd never have dropped Bruno for McTominay. No, never in a million years. So, yeah, I don't subscribe to that. I'm sure McTominay was blocked off by Bruno because in a 4-3-3, there's only one number 10. But I'd never have dropped Bruno for McTominay in a number 10. So, no, I'm quite comfortable with that.

53:45honestly we should never go back it's never worked time to build for the future and move on from x players and anyone who's been here for four years is john yeah well i i i do agree with that i do i do agree with that i think it's um and look before i go back to that john because it's a better comment than this there was a comment from ollie about uh rashford saying i've not spoken to him since he left but takes texting a little bit i don't know what's happened but you can see he's enjoying himself probably looked like he didn't enjoy himself at man united at the end i I mean, it's nice that you spoke about Rashford, but I don't really have anything to talk about that.

54:17I'd rather speak about what John said. And I'm still very much of the opinion that anybody that's been here over four years, we should be moving them on. Because ultimately, they're ingrained in failure, I suppose. and if you've been here for four years i think the youngest person that's been here for four years is delo so you can't really say he's at the end of his career but in the case of delo four years ago i still held hope that he might become one of the best fullbacks in europe it hasn't happened so it's time to go um luke shaw he's been here over four years been here nearly 10 years where are we at you know even if you think he's doing quite well at the moment 10 years to be quite well time to go so i think i do agree with that john i think i think we do need to move some of these players on certainly um and i think you know in the case of the low four years ago there was talk of rail ladrip you know there's talk of you know big clubs coming in for him and i just think that we do need to move on from from this and build something new um i think about people like phil neville and nikki butts who you know their class of 92 members they were very very good players for us they hit a point where they went off to everton and newcastle because they wanted to play and they were very good players that got moved on so you know kevin de bruyne has just gone to napoli we're thinking about keeping casimero like i think there's a mentality that we need to get into that players that have had time here and it's not really got where we wanted it to you replace them but that is the glazer tactic the glazers would rather keep something and spend no money then replace it and potentially improve uh we built will we build our team around elliot anderson to win trophies or sell him if he does well not sure what so jim means by his future talk says francesco i made it very hard to sell him on if you spend a lot of money on him i would hope that we would bring in players in that like that to build a future um thank you very much francesco i've done that from class of 99 as well okay lovely stuff okay so we are back ow we are back at 1 45 um this uh this afternoon uh not two o 'clock for 1 45 because ben jacobs has got to be done by half two so we'll go live at 1 45 with ben jacobs i mentioned that because it's always a good show every thursday and also we can delve into that elliot anderson thing and see if we can understand why his price would be less considerably less than 100 million pounds even if we have to start guessing and see how he reacts um we'll also talk about adi amy we'll talk about the attack we'll talk about other midfielders uh lots of other things as well thanks everyone for watching eight o 'clock show tonight as always with me looking forward to that really enjoyed them this week take care stay safe i'll speak to you on the next one

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