246: Mainoo Wants Napoli Move?! Amorim’s TRANSFER Request!

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1:02United Stand Hosts: Hello everybody and welcome back to the United Stand. I am Beth and I'm here for your latest Manchester United news and transfer news. Thank you everybody for getting in the show. But on today's show, there is Maynews Transfer Plea. Really likes the idea of going to Napoli. Napoli are very interested in him. Reuniting with Scott McTominay, with Rasmus Hoyland. Is that where Manchester United players go to revive their careers and get back off the mark? Well, it's working for Scott McTominay. He's massively working for Scott McTominay. He's starting to work for Rasmus Hojland as well. Kobi Meynou wants that move.

1:35United Stand Hosts: Should we let him go or is Amarim still going to block it? Also, Ruben Nevers on the list for Manchester United as a midfield option. Currently playing in Saudi Arabia. When I saw this come out this morning, I thought, isn't Ruben Nevers like 35? He's still only 28. I mean, 28 is not exactly really young in football in terms, but you've still got a good few years left in you. Is that something you would do? Or is it again just a stopgap for Manchester United? And should we be looking at bigger targets? Also, I want to touch on Fabrizio Romano saying that Ruben Amarim would like a new winger slash number 10.

2:10United Stand Hosts: I want someone to love me the way that Ruben Amarim loves number 10s. Because, I mean, I'm all for it if it means bringing Semenyo in. So maybe that is slightly hypocritical in that sense. But for me, I look at it and I go, do we need another number 10? It's not top of the list. It really isn't top of the list. And then also Shu Amini transfer requests and Luke Shaw's future. Luke Shaw, there's more talk coming in about him as well. Someone's knocking at the door in our studio. Someone needs to go and answer that. Sorry, guys, I'm getting a bit distracted. Someone's trying to get in. All right, never mind, guys.

2:51It's being handled.

2:52United Stand Hosts: Sorry about that, everyone. Really, really sorry about that. But yeah, Shuamini, transfer request. There's more news coming out from Spain this morning that Amorim really likes a player. What do we think? A bit too injury-prone, we talked about earlier on in the week. But we'll talk about it again because if you could keep him fit, he would be absolutely fantastic for Manchester United's midfield. Thank you very much for everyone getting your comments in already, smashing a like on the video. How are we feeling this Thursday morning? Have you got a tea? Have you got a coffee? what other drinks you wake up to in the morning have you already been up since like 5am you know getting up early getting getting it in while the while it's still dark outside can't believe it how freezing it is at the moment how are you starting off your day you excited for football being back you excited for manchester united coming back monday night we've got to wait till but it is monday night football and i am so excited to be back at old trafford and i have a feeling we're gonna we're gonna play a good game on that one so yeah maybe we'll look ahead a little bit to that game against Everton as well.

3:50United Stand Hosts: But let's get into the first bit of news that is coming out and it is coming from Gazetta over in Italy. So quite a decent Italian source. Kobi Maynou is very keen on making the move to Napoli, driven by the desire to reunite with familiar faces Rasmus Hoyland and Scott McTominay. I want to put a poll in straight away. would you sell and i'm not even talking about a loan would you sell cobi menu to napoli i have made my stance very clear on this one however is if amarin is going to continue to not want to go to menu to not want to utilize menu then there really does need to be a discussion to be had because how much money could you get in for menu it is pure profit would you sell him and i'm not going to go into it for the 1500th time about how much I rate Manu and how much if I was Ruben Amrum, I would keep him and I would be devastated to see him go.

4:49United Stand Hosts: I do think he'd do really well elsewhere and I think it'd come back to haunt us. I think he's that good. I've spoken about it multiple times. It's one of the things that Amrum does that I disagree with. I don't agree with his opinion on Cobby Manu. I think he should be playing more. There is this theory within the fan base which I actually played a part into and sometimes you know when you want when you want something it makes you believe it more you know the term you just want to believe that because you want it to happen you're thinking that and for me that is what a lot of fan base has done with Kobi Maynou and I hope it does turn out to be a theory that is right but I believed it at the start as well Ruben Amarim's just testing Kobi Maynou this is what top managers do young players they see what they're made of, he's seen if he can get through this spell of being on the sidelines, he wants him to go away and he wants him to train really hard to get into the team, he wants him to work on a few attributes to get himself into the team, and he's just testing him and he is going to be Bruno Fernandes' successor in the midfield.

5:51United Stand Hosts: When Bruno Fernandes goes to Saudi or moves on to a different European club, because that could be on the cards as well, we don't actually know what's going to happen with Bruno Fernandes, he wants Kobi Manu, he wants Kobi Manu to be the successor, it's just for now because Bruno's captain and because Bruno's Amrim's guy and that's where Kobi plays, as soon as Bruno departs, Kobi Manu will take over and he's done all this legwork, he's been in the background, he's been the, you know, when you have the master and the apprentice, you have Bruno as the master and you have Kobi Manu as the apprentice, he's done that dynamic and now he can take over, They are different players in the way that they play, but they play the same position.

6:32United Stand Hosts: However, I'm not too sure on that. I used to want to believe it, but then when you get linked to potential Bruno Fernandes replacements, why do you need a Bruno Fernandes replacement if Kobi Maneu is going to be the replacement? When he is coming on after Mason Mount, after Manuel Ugarte, he's currently Ruben Arrium's last choice midfielder. And just based on substitute appearances and starts for Manchester United, Kobe Maynou this season is Amarim's last choice first team midfielder currently so if you really were invested in into a player surely you would be at least giving them just a little bit more game time I think we would see him a bit more he has spoken publicly about him saying he deserves to play more from what he's doing in training and that kind of made me think oh you know what maybe Codney Maneu has got a chance and I do think Ruben Amrim has proved you always have a chance under him by the way he's treated Casemiro.

7:28United Stand Hosts: Casemiro was below the pecking order even after Toby Collier, Amrim's own words, and now he's one of the first names on the team sheet but Casemiro also is very experienced, he's won multiple Champions League, he's been around the block, he's got a massive amount of respect in the game. I mean you saw Bruno Gamera's quotes on the show with Marge yesterday about how much he's respected in the Brazilian national team and just in football in general so he's a big leader in there. Kobi Maynou is a young guy that I just don't think Ruben Amarim fancies his attributes in his system. Hope I'm wrong and I hope he can come through it and I hope he does become Bruno's successor in that midfield but I'm just struggling to see any sort of signs that Amarim is planning for that.

8:10United Stand Hosts: He has come on off the bench to replace Bruno a couple times, but it's not happened enough for me to really buy into it. So would you let him leave? Because if, say for example, a lot of the community, right, a lot of the community would love to have Angelo Stiller. I mean, get in the comments. Would you love to have Angelo Stiller? A lot of the community would love to have Angelo Stiller. I feel like I mean I rate Angelo Stiller I know Goldbridge wants Angelo Stiller but Angelo Stiller would be coming in in my opinion to play the Bruno Fernandes role that is taking game time once again away away from Kobe Maneu and you've got to have competition for places you've got to have more than one player per position but surely if you want Maneu to be that first choice you maybe go for a slightly different profile than Angelo Stiller who would come in and I think would expect to be first choice at Manchester United.

9:07You can never expect to be first choice every single game,

9:09United Stand Hosts: but the level he's playing at, you would think so. So there's a few signs to me that it's like, is he actually going to be that Bruno Fernandes successor that we all want him to be? And if he's going to have a role next season where he's not necessarily a starter, but he's coming off the bench, yet again, there is a player there that you could... I mean, I think when he was playing under Ten Hag, he was a£60-70 million player. I still think he holds that value. I still think Carly Manu is a£60-70 million player. I absolutely do. But I think you'd struggle to get more than£45 for him in the current climate because he's just not playing games.

9:46United Stand Hosts: He's just not playing football. I think you'd probably get max£40 million for him. So his value has decreased because he's not played. And is it worth selling him for that money? He would be pure profit because he's from the academy. It breaks my heart to let go of an academy product that I generally do believe if he went to Napoli, go and kill it. I believe if he went to another club, I know multiple clubs interested in him, if he went to a different club, even a club in the Premier League, he would kill it and I think we would regret it. But if he's not going to play games under Ruben Amrim, we can't have a situation go on forever where it's, let's keep Cobb-Mainu because he really is a good player, but Amrim don't really want to use him because only one person is going to win in that scenario and it's either going to be Amrim or it's going to be Cobb-Mainu.

10:32and I'm not saying for one second

10:34United Stand Hosts: Kabi Manu sat here waiting for Amarim to get sats because I don't think he is he's not that type of professional but if Amarim did end up getting sats then it would probably benefit Kabi Manu in terms of he might get more game time under the new manager because he might like him for his system if he played a three-man midfield I absolutely think Kabi Manu would be playing every game so Hi, I'm Angie Hicks co-founder of Angie when you use Angie for your home projects you know all your jobs will be done well Roof repair? Done well. Kitchen sink install? Done well. Deck upgrades? Done well. Electrical upgrade?

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11:55United Stand Hosts: If that happens, then he could come into the team. but if Amarim is a success here which I want him to be I want Ruben Amarim to be a success and I never want it to be Amarim versus Mainou but if Amarim is a success at Manchester United will Kabi Mainou play a big role? Because I feel like we're in a limbo stage at the moment where it's when's Mainou going to get in and what if he doesn't because he just Amarim just doesn't rate his attributes for his system and then you've got to make a decision are we just going to wait around and hope that Mainu can get into the team and hope that Amarim suddenly has a change of heart or maybe, you know, say if things went wrong with Amarim, then at least we've got Kobi Mainu who can play a three-man midfield.

12:39United Stand Hosts: I don't think you should think like that as a football club. I think you should think Ruben Amarim's the long-term manager. Ruben Amarim's the project we've got behind. We're expecting him to be our long-term manager for the foreseeable future. So if Kobi Mainu isn't getting minutes and he's not going to get minutes, Amarim, let's have a frank conversation. Can you see Kobi Manu being a starter in your team within the next year? Well, if he does this and this, then maybe. Can you see him currently? In his current state, and where you think he's potentially that, do you think he's going to be a starter within the next year?

13:10United Stand Hosts: Not sure. Then you'd probably look to sell him for his own career, because he's too good to be sat rotting away on the bench. He really is. He's too good. I want to see Kobi Manu play football. I miss seeing Kobi Manu play football. So he's too good to be on the bench, in my opinion. He deserves to play games every week and Man United would benefit from the money that's coming in from him. So it's an interesting one. I mean, him and Scott McTominay playing together and killing it in Serie A in Napoli would be an exciting thing to kind of witness. Rasmus Hoyland's kind of had a decent start to his Napoli career, but you wouldn't see him play regular football unless you're watching Serie A week in, week out.

13:50But I would really, really like to see Kobi Manu, if he left Manchester United, stay in the Premier League, just so I could watch more often.

13:57United Stand Hosts: I do like to watch teams in different leagues, but I don't always get the opportunity. I am near enough watch every Premier League game, at least the highlights every week. And then I'll watch a lot of Premier League over the weekend. So you would get to see him a bit more that way. But ideally, in an ideal world for me, and I'm going to come to the poll in a second. in an ideal world for me Kodmine would go on loan from January until the end of the season and you would see him for what he is which is a top player and then Amorim kind of thinks you know what can get a summer out of him I think I need to give him a chance he comes back to Manchester United in the summer he has a fantastic pre-season because I think it's quite I mean the chances are very very slim he'd get picked for England even if he does really well from January until the summer.

14:47Thomas Tuchel's quite settled with his picks currently in that England squad. You've got Elliot Anderson, you've got Adam Warton, you've got Jude Bellingham. I know he's more of a forward midfielder but still can play in midfield. You've got Declan Rice. I mean, he's taken Jordan Henderson, which personally I wouldn't be doing, but he's done it for the experience levels. I think Komi Mania would find it difficult to go to England anyway. If he does really well on loan from January until the summer,

15:12United Stand Hosts: then Amorim could have a full pre-season with him and he could really hit the ground running next season and he could make it his. That's my dream scenario for Cobby Maynou. But is a club like Napoli going to be comfortable with a straight loan with no option to buy between January and the summer? I don't think so. He would have to be a club that is willing to say, look, we just want a straight loan. We just want a straight loan. January's to the summer, maybe a cheap deal. Cobby Maynou's wage is pretty small in comparison to the other players in our squad as well I'm pretty sure Cobb Emanu is on around£40 ,000 a week or something like that.

15:48United Stand Hosts: Most Premier League clubs could cover that. So alone in that aspect where a club is crying out for a bit more quality in their midfield, but they've not got the biggest budget in the world, that could work really well for Cobb Emanu to go and tear it up in the Prem. For example, do you remember when, I mean it didn't end up working out, But remember when Jesse Lingard went on loan to West Ham from January until the summer and he was genuinely knocking on the door to go to England because he played that well in that loan period. That's what I'd kind of want from Cobby Manu. That's what I'd love to see for Cobby Manu.

16:25I'd love to see Cobby Manu do a Jesse Lingard where he goes to maybe a West Ham or West Ham are not the same West Ham as they were then.

16:34United Stand Hosts: like a mid-table club potentially goes and does really really well knocking on the door for England but I think Jesse Lingard just ended up missing out and I don't know if Cobby Mania would make it but knocking on the door people are asking the question they've got videos on Talkspot coming out in the morning with two people going on why Cobby Mania should go to the World Cup that's what I want to see in six months time for Cobby Mania but instead of when Jesse Lingard ended up staying and it didn't work out for him and then he ended up just not working out went to Forest and didn't work out. Cobby Manu takes that time period.

17:08United Stand Hosts: He will be at a younger age. He's 20 years old, Cobby Manu. I think Jesse Lingard at the time was like 28 or something, something around that mark. He's 20 years old, takes that experience, uses it in the pre-season and goes in and smashes it for Man United next season. That's what I kind of want to see happen to Cobby Manu. But let me know, would you sell Cobby Manu to Napoli? Yes or no? I'm just going to put a no in there because I don't want to see him leave. I want to see him go on loan. and the majority of you guys so far have gone 57 % no and 43 % yes so there's a there's definitely some debate to be had but I think the majority of our community still thinks there's more to come from Kabi Mainu and doesn't want to give up on that prospect yet and I'm absolutely on that track with you guys the the no the 57 % I feel it's one of them where you just you're just not quite ready to let go you're just not quite ready to let go you can see the vision you had an idea in your head of how this is going to work out and you're just not ready to let that dream go it happens in life all the time and i still think we can make it work with kabi so i'm really hoping he gets that low move in january i don't know if he will i hope he goes and shows what he's about and i hope that amram and kabi mania can make it work i really do it's like i mean it's like a relationship isn't it it's like a relationship I just I don't want to let I don't want to let you go yet we can be something we can and I feel like with Kobe we would regret it you know one of them you you'd regret it if he went off and did really well and he is literally Manchester Barnabas from the academy and he's already had some special moments at 20 years old so I wanted to give both sides of the coin because there is money to be made from Kobe Mania there is money to be made but we can make money in many other places.

18:55Just like with Bruno Fernandes

18:56United Stand Hosts: when Saudi was on the table last summer and there was money to be made. We could make money from other places. Last summer it was Rasmus Hoyland, Marcus Rashford's wage being off the books, Alejandro Garnaccio was a significant fee coming in of pure profit. Anybody else that we got rid of? Next summer it'll be a lot of wages going off the books. You don't know what's going to happen with Bruno. You might get a move on the cards which means I think you'd probably get at least£50 million. I would expect maybe a little bit more. And, you know, there could be other players that go as well. You never know.

19:29United Stand Hosts: So there will be money coming in. It doesn't have to be Cobbemani that departs. And, yeah, so let me know. Let me know your thoughts on that. Also, Champions League football is a big one. And this brings me into another topic. I know Semenyo, I mean, I'll get into it. I'll wait. I'll wait. I'll come to some Super Chats first, and then I'll get into Semenyo stuff. Because I saw Goldbridge's video that he dropped from Central Park. And by the way, absolutely, I just love New York. I've never been at Christmas time. I've been in like the summer months and the spring months. I love New York. I'm so jealous.

20:01I think United Stan should go and do United Stan tour over in New York. I mean, please, I would love it.

20:06United Stand Hosts: So I watched Goldbridge's video from Central Park and he was saying, Semenyo, I don't get why people want Semenyo. I'll explain why people want Semenyo. I've already explained it, but I knew a shorter version of why and how getting him in in January could actually mean we have more money. for a midfielder in the summer. What? You're spending£65 million and you could have more money for a midfielder. Yeah, because bringing him in could help us get money from the Champions League. Seth says, if he doesn't start next season, then sell because Amarim doesn't like him. No one expected Casemiro to be in our starting line-up, so it could happen for Maynou.

20:38Yeah, maybe just a little bit more time and then you make a decision, maybe a tough decision at the start of next season. Frank Potrouse says, I think Maynou and Xerxes need to stay and be humble. this wouldn't be the case if we weren't in one competition they need to work together for more game time yeah i suppose the one game a week does come into consideration it is really tough to get minutes when it is only one game a week but still as a figure like cobby menu if you work and you're

21:03United Stand Hosts: absolutely socks off week in week out you've got to see some pathway you've got you've got to give you something in life i feel like we've been having some therapy sessions on these shows was these morning shows while Mark's not been here or having some motivational conversations. But in life, you've got to have some sort of motivation. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. When you use Angie for your home projects, you know all your jobs will be done well. Roof repair? Done well. Kitchen sink install? Done well. Deck upgrades? Done well. Electrical upgrade? Done well. Angie's been connecting homeowners with skilled pros for nearly 30 years, so we know the difference between done and done well.

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22:26United Stand Hosts: You've got to have some sort of light you can see in the future, some sort of goal you are working towards, or else where's the drive? Where's the get-up-and-go? When you get up in the morning, what are you getting up for? What is your drive? What is your ambition? what are you doing in your day to get you to your end goal and it might just be little steps but with Kobi Manu if you want him to train super hard if you want him to put in all the work and all the effort to be a starter in this team which Amarim absolutely does want apparently Kobi Manu's been doing separate sessions he's been doing individual training sessions he's been working on the stuff that Amarim wants him to he's had one-on-one conversations with him and Amrim's given him things to work on to get himself in his best possible shape to be in this team.

23:13And Amrim's even said previously, Kobi Manu's a really good player, but I think he can be better. He's putting pressure on him.

23:19United Stand Hosts: If he wants Kobi Manu to do the work, you've got to give him something to go off. You've got to give him a little bit of encouragement. It's why we live in a rewards-based world. It's why when you do really well at your job, there's companies that have bonuses, that have, you know, rewards, that have, you know, whoever wins a certain, in a certain department gets to go on the company trip at the end of the year. That's why there is rewards in life because when you're working towards something, whether that be a goal, whether that be an incentive, incentives are massive for people to have that drive.

23:56United Stand Hosts: And for Corby Maynard to keep working every single day relentlessly to get in his team, Amram's just got to show him a little bit of something. Bit of game time here and there. I'm going to start him, you know, I'm going to start him against Everton at home. Let's see what he's about. Let's give him an opportunity. He's got to give him something. And some people will say he's getting paid to do it. Some people say, well, he gets paid every week to go and show up. And absolutely, footballers should be 100 % professional every single day. And Kobe Maynou's goal in his head might be, I just want to be the best version of myself.

24:26It's not always an incentive of game time or, you know, money or anything like that. It might just be, I want to be the best possible professional. But whatever drives you, you've got to tap into it. and for Amarin to get even more out of Mania I think he should tap into the fact of give you a bit of game time there it gives him that encouragement to keep going because if you keep, you know when people say you're barking up the wrong tree there when you keep driving and driving and driving and driving

24:50United Stand Hosts: and you're just not seeing any signs of getting close to your destination or you're not giving anything in return it knocks you back a few times and you've got to be a really strong character to just keep going and keep pushing through and keep pushing through and some people do that but you've got to see light at the end of the tunnel it's with everything in life even you know when you start going to the gym when you start eating healthy when you start to see them small changes and then when you look into the mirror that makes you want to go to the gym again and again and again to get in the best possible shape when you decide you want to take up running or you want to do hyroxes and you go for a 5k and suddenly you know you feel like you're breezing it I'm gonna go do a 10k okay that was really difficult but the next time you do it not out of breath at all my muscles feel really strong I feel good it's that dopamine hit that you get that serotonin where you're like this is giving me some encouragement to keep moving forward to keep to keep driving and I think Amarim just needs to give Komi Manu a little bit of incentive to to keep working really really hard to get into this team but yeah uh i mean vincent says amram doesn't owe cobbett anything he doesn't he doesn't but if cobbett may knew amram sat there saying he should be playing more games and he's the quality of he that he is i just think it'd help from a man management perspective to give him a little bit of encouragement to be honest with you that's my that's my that's my that's my take but you're entitled to to say he doesn't owe him anything and I agree he doesn't owe him anything he's Manchester United manager and he should be doing best what he thinks is the best for Manchester United to win football games and progress but for me a fit and firing Kobi Manu absolutely contributes to Manchester United being a better version of themselves give him a little bit of encouragement and I think that would all be a contributing factor Ashley Jane says or else you could or else you could risk you could risk losing him and then that's a detriment of Manchester United so it's about working things in the right way Ashley Jane says morning Beth I don't think he has been given enough time in the team to be able to prove what a player he can be neither do I honestly Seth says if he doesn't star next season I've done that one thank you very much Seth for your super chat in there thank you for being in a member let me get some of more of your chats in as well uh Luke Hayden says no room for sentimentality when you've just finished 15th in the league sell him bring in addison and wharton there are plenty more youth prospects to get behind and he isn't good enough that is very strong i don't agree but you are entitled to your strong opinion malopa says i feel like some people have given up on manu because of his 10 minute cameos where he's not been playing well what do you expect for the poor kid be man of the match and forget grimsby that's what i mean grimsby was just a i'm parking that that was just a horror show and plus he was put into a team that isn't even our starting 11 uh it was it was a mismatch and a jumble and i i genuinely do believe in that grimsby game the reason we were super poor is our heads weren't in the right place absolutely the team was massively mixed and the back line he switched too many members of his back line and anana was an absolute horror horror show so i'm not blaming cobby for the grimsby game i know he was in the in the starting 11 but you know messi's been in a starting 11 before and lost not maybe against Grimsby but you never know and I'm not saying Kami Mane who's messy but it's not just a one-man team with with the fact of the 10-minute cameos I agree it's really tough as a midfielder maybe if you're coming on like a winger like Alejandro Ganacho used to do and he used to take the game by the ball of the horns and you could really see him impacting the game and getting them opportunities in the final third when you're lightning quick when you can go at your defence then you have more of a chance of affecting the game in the last 10-20 minutes but is a midfielder coming on to a midfielder that's already pretty open midway through a game?

28:52United Stand Hosts: It's difficult. When you're not playing regular football, when you're not Matt Sharp, it's difficult and I think people need to kind of give the benefit of the doubt there. I would judge Kobi Manu after three games starting and even that's like a bit early but I want to see him start three games and see what he can do. We're not going to see it though so I don't think there's any point of discussing it. But yeah, anyway, keep your comments coming in on that. Thank you everyone for getting involved. smash a like on the video. Also, Premier League football's back. Would Khabib Maynou start against Everton?

29:22Should he start against Everton? We know it's not going to happen. It's going to be Casemiro and Bruno Fernandes. But there's loads of Premier League football to get stuck into on. That's football. You have Burnley versus Chelsea at 12.30 on Saturday. That's going to be a good game. I'm excited to get up and watch that. The first game back of the weekend of the Premier League. Very excited. I will be there. And also, Newcastle versus Man City. St James' Park, 5.30 Saturday night. What a way to kick back off the Premier League while we wait for Manchester United on the Monday. Be there on the watch lungs on That's Football.

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30:33Keel Robinson says, what exactly does Amorim want from a player? I would love that.

30:38United Stand Hosts: I would love for Amorim to be in an interview or a press conference. and someone to directly ask Amorim. Amorim, you've spoken about the fact that Kobi Manu deserves more game time. You've spoken about how you think he's a good player, but you think he can be better. What does he have to do to start in this team? What does he need to change about his game? What elements of his game needs to change for him to be a successful midfielder to start and warrant a starting place in your XI? I'd love to hear the answer to that. And he'd probably say, or Bruno Fernandes would need to stop playing as well as he is.

31:15But I don't know if he would go with that answer, but I think that would be a bit of a cop-out. I would say forget all the players. For Kobe Manu to be a starter, what does his game have to be like and what does he need to change? I would love for him to be asked that. But speaking of midfielders, and this is the thing, we've got Kobe there, we're not anywhere on the bench, but we keep getting linked to multiple different midfielders who can play that role. And it's coming a little bit about Ruben Neves. Ben Jacobs has mentioned this on the show before, so I am going to ask Ben about this at 2pm.

31:44Ben Jacobs is back on the show at 2pm, by the way. The BNB show is back. Make sure you stay tuned. Al-Halal midfielder, and this is coming in from court offside, Al-Halal midfielder Ruben Neves is keyed on a return to the Premier League, Ahmed Interest from Manchester United, Newcastle and Tottenham. The experienced Portuguese international has previously shone in England with his former club Wolves. We love a Wolves player, don't we? And he's too good to keep playing in Saudi Arabia for much longer. I mean, that's obviously an opinion piece from the writer. As reported, it is an exclusive piece this morning.

32:20Neves is now nearing the end of his contract with Al-Halal and could be on the move for just€20 million. Not sure if it's exclusive when Ben Jacobs has spoken about it previously, but anyway, it's news coming out. That will surely be appealing to a lot of top clubs that have already been in some contact with the Premier League sides, according to sources. However, one key issue with Ruben Neves is that he currently earns as much as£410 ,000 a week with Al-Halal and is going to be too expensive for most European clubs. Man United manager Ruben Amrim is also keen on Neves, while Newcastle also continue to monitor his situation, but he'll surely have to reduce his wage demands to make it happen.

32:57he's not getting any younger and has been playing at the highest and has not been playing at the highest level in recent years so might be a bit rusty coming back to the english top flight just on reuben nevers hi i'm angie hicks co-founder of angie when you use angie for your home projects you know all your jobs will be done well roof repair done well kitchen sink install done well Deck upgrades? Done well. Electrical upgrade? Done well. Angie's been connecting homeowners with skilled pros for nearly 30 years, so we know the difference between done and done well. Angie, the one you trust to find the ones you trust.

33:36Find a pro for your project at Angie.com. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, spinquest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes, spinquest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. I believe these links, by the way. he's 28 years old will be 29 in march just finished with thought in terms of his age i thought he was much older to be honest with you 20 million euros is a really good price and i absolutely believe that reuben amram likes him he's portuguese he will have seen him a lot he will have seen him a lot for sure you have trapped him and he knows him so i believe amram's interested i think 20 million euros is a decent fee for a player of that of that level I actually do believe that Ruben Neves is a real quality player do I think he'd be a starter no but I think he'd come in and do that Christian Eriksen type role that you know sometimes starts and plays really well sometimes he's on the bench I don't think 28 is too old I mean he'd be 29 maybe it may be by the time we signed him depends if we go for January in the summer January it would be January wouldn't it if it's if it's the 20 million euro fee so he'd be 28 when we signed him I don't think it's too old for 20 million euros which 20 million euros in pounds what is that around 70 million pounds or something however but but but but 410 000 pound a week is an absolutely laughable wage that manchester united will go absolutely nowhere near for reuben nevers at 28 years old so that's why i would rule this out and reuben nevers might well be open to decreasing his wage but I think the maximum you'd want to pay for a player like Ruben Neves now would be what?

35:43120 grand a week? 150 grand a week max? He's not going to go from 410 grand a week to 150 grand a week. It's just not going to happen. So I don't think this deal is happening and I just don't think he'd accept the wage. 20 million euros? Absolutely. I'm there. Ruben Neves is a player. I think he's a good player. I'm going to be so honest and he's Premier League proven as well he's got experience under his belt might be a bit rusty coming back in but I think he'd do well I don't think he's going to accept 100, 100, 150 grand a week wage which is the max Manchester United could offer for a player in his position so yeah I don't see it happening for that reason it's a temporary fix isn't it as well it's not long term but sometimes them sort of players can really come in clutch for you they really can stop gaps always gets looked upon as being a bad term and sometimes it is and I'd probably say the majority of the time it is but there can be some stopgaps that are kind of cult heroes and cult favourites.

36:44I do believe that and I think Ruben Neves could come in and do a really good job for Manchester United in a time of need. He could add depth for the midfield. He can play multiple roles in that midfield and I think he'd be utilised. I think he'd play well. It's just that wage thing. It's the wage thing and he'd probably give you a good three or four years as well at 28. probably would so i would i would so be open to that for a little 20 million euro move i think i think that'd be absolutely worth it for the quality that you're bringing in but it's just the wage i don't think we'll ever get past what is 20 million euros in pounds i guess 17 nearly on it 17.6 million it's a steal for a player that quality really mini 19 says casimir amenu in the middle bruno 10 with embimo rotate cunha and zirks it up front charlotte that works look many a lot of people would agree with you we've pushed for that on the fans forum before however however i think we need to stop talking about bruno fernandez playing as a 10 people have cried out for it people still want it to happen a lot of fans still believe it's his best position ruben amram who loves that system and he's married to that system does not like bruno fernandez in the 10 because if he liked bruno fernandez in the 10 he wouldn't have gone and bought two number 10s in the summer he wants Bruno Fernandes in the midfield and you might come back to me and say well he's only playing Bruno in the midfield because we don't have a midfielder that he likes if that was the case you would buy one number 10 in the summer and you'd buy one midfielder you wouldn't buy two you wouldn't go and buy Cunha you'd buy in Bumo and you'd buy a midfielder to go alongside Casemiro or play in there.

38:29Ruben Amorim has very specific qualities he wants from his number 10s and he clearly doesn't like Bruno Fernandes as a 10. He likes him in the midfield. He thinks for his system, Bruno Fernandes' attributes are best suited to the midfield. Of course, he can push him up into a 10. It's not as if he will never play him as a 10 ever in his life there. He can play him as a 10 mid-game. He might switch it up. one game this season you might see him play in the 10 but he's not started in the 10 yet once this season and I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't start in the 10 once all season he likes Mbumo there, he likes Cunha there he likes aggressive players in them positions and he likes Cunha being the ball carry of that position and he likes Mbumo being able to be that lightning quick wing arrest number 10 that can get through defences, he likes that combination Bruno Fernandes, he likes him to dictate from that midfield that's what Ruben Amarin's preference is so he's not gonna he's not gonna play in the 10 to be honest with you but yeah that was it on Ruben Neves just speaking about number 10s I know Terry covered this on the show last night but I wanted to bring it in a little and it is the Manchester United are looking for a winger slash number 10 that is electric skillful talented and fast and that is coming in from Fabrizio Romano on this bit of news I was a little bit shocked at first because we've just spent quite a bit of money on two number 10s in the summer.

39:58But the more I think about it, the more I think this could be a hint at Anton Semenyo. And I don't necessarily think it's the fact that Ruben Amrum wants specifically a number 10 because the forward line is quite fluid in Amrum's system and he likes players that can play in multiple positions. For example, Mbimo could play anywhere across the front three and he could probably play wing back as well. that's four positions that he can play Cunha I think can play two positions in that team absolutely, he can play up front, he can play off the left and I'm not sure about him off the right but I'm sure he could play there if needs must, I actually think Cunha could drop into the midfield if needed he's that aggressive and hungry I don't think he's best position but he can do it I think he could do it Benjamin Sesko is a striker and that is it, I do have to admit that but there's players in that team that can play in multiple positions.

40:48Xerxes can play probably across the front three. There's players that can do it. Maynou can play multiple positions. Bruno can play multiple positions. He likes players like that. So I think he's basically probably just looking for another forward and he wants that forward to be versatile. And with links to Anton Semenyo, the Semenyo story so far, Goldbridge was calling this rubbish, but I don't agree. I do think we sat down with Semenyo in March last year which was what was reported I know we absolutely did want Mbumo and Kunio and they were top choices for us and I am still very very happy we got them two players and I wouldn't trade them I wouldn't trade them but we would have had more than just two people on the list I do believe we sat down with Semenyo I do believe that Ruben Amarin had had a meal with him to test out his character I believe them reports and I believe that we're interested again and are considering a move for him but we probably don't have the money to do it and we don't want to use that money to do it after we've just spent so much money on attackers however I think Amorim probably wants another versatile type forward with the Semenyo links happening at the same time is it for me is it just a coincidence I think you want someone who could play across the front three people have spoken about Semenyo playing as a left wing back I don't really see it but I think he could if needs must and I'm not in absolute shock about it because if you think about it if anything happens to Mbimo, who would play there?

42:14Ahmad. Ahmad is being tailored into being a right wingback, a winger playing as a wingback. He can play there, but you want players who can play multiple different positions, which Ahmad is, that can fill in. Cunha, Mason Mount, got injury problems. I hope he can stay fit. I think he's fantastic. You know that, but got injury problems. Xerxi, seems like he's surplus to requirements, even though I think he deserves more of a chance. Sesko is the only striker we've really got at the club. Out and out striker. Zerzi can play there, but he's a 9.5, as he said. Semenyo could solve multiple issues. Can play anywhere across the front three.

42:52He is quick, he's clinical, and is a hard worker and could play at wing-back if needed on the left. I don't think it'd be somewhere where he plays often, but I think he could do if needs more. So I think he'd be a really, really, really good player to bring in. and I know multiple people will say midfield, midfield, midfield. Unfortunately, Manchester United are in a position where our first choice midfielders or anyone of real, real quality in the midfield is not available in January. You want the money to go and spend on Elliot Anderson? You better be in the Champions League. You want the money to go and buy Carlos Beliber if he's your top pick?

43:35Try and be in the Champions League. I think Belieber would come if we weren't in the Champions League to be honest but Anderson absolutely Wharton absolutely Shu Amini who we're going to talk about in a minute who I don't think we'll get but if we did want to go for him you're going to have to be in the Champions League how do you get in the Champions League? you have to get in the top five it's an absolute dog race to get in that top five it's so hard to get in the top five in the Premier League now with all the clubs that are competing for it but we are actually in that race how do you do Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie And one thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home.

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45:29probably need another midfielder now or do you go for the real deal this time next year nobody I can bet my bottom dollar I don't want to bet everything because things change in football but nobody's going to be sat here saying I wish we didn't sign Semenya Semenya's not very good is he Semenya's class he's really really good so it's not just the stopgap January signing it's an opportunity in the market where you're bringing someone in who is real real quality and who will be in and around the starting 11 this time next year if you go and go and go and get a stopgap hoping they'll help us get champions league this time next year they might not even be in and around the starting 11 and you might be looking to offload them well while you're trying to bring in another player in their position for example if you went and got a gallagher that could be the case as much as i think gallagher could do a job is he going to do a job this time next year so i think it's something to think about there's comments coming in savage says lacy can do that lacy might get an opportunity and I didn't expect him to do so but Lacey isn't going to be Semenyo quite yet he's still pretty young and working his way in you don't want to put too much pressure on him CY says Semenyo is class but will not suit the system one purple patch does not rectify Bayern so when he plays in a position we don't have in our system on that CYU, it's not a purple patch he was really good last season as well so he's been doing it for quite a while now and Mbimo literally, you know, I think his probably best typical position is a right winger.

46:57Does he not suit our system, being our best player? Good quality players play in different positions and can play in multiple positions and have tweaks to their game. And being most probably best position in football would be as a right winger. He's playing as a right-sided 10 and he's still playing basically as a right winger, linking up with Ahmad on the right-hand side. You know, you can twist and turn these positions a little bit. It's not absolutely set in stone

47:25Navino says Semenyo is better than Mount and he's not going to AFCON I'd love Gallagher on loan says Tom McBride Roald says we don't need him and he's over 60 mil he is expensive but spending that 60 mil could get you Champions League football which I mean let me search you now how much money does a Premier League team get for ucl football so okay

48:05this was okay so you get you get you get a fee each time depending on where you get to in the champions League so I'm going to use Liverpool as an example for last season so Liverpool made from where they got to in the Champions League a total of 82.7 million from being in the Champions League I'd have to get my figures absolutely correct because it depends where you finish in the league and they obviously they obviously finished it as the Premier League winners and it depends which stage of the Champions League you get to, but you get a lot of money. You get a lot of money for being in the Champions League.

48:45For initially getting in, you get a fee, and then for getting past the knockout stages, you get another fee. For getting to the quarterfinals, you get another fee, and so on and so on. I don't know where Manchester United would get to, but you can really earn a lot of money from getting into the Champions League. So you've already earned that. Basically, you could be in a position where you pay£65 million for Semenya in January, if it helps getting you in the Champions League, by the time you start playing in the Champions League next season, you get past the knockout stages, you've earned the money back for Semenya, you could be in that sort of position and even when you're talking about, oh maybe it doesn't quite add up to£65 million the money you get for initially being in the competition and then for getting to knockout stage, it'll be a large sum of money.

49:28Shirt sales, sponsorships uh brands want their sponsor being on a club that's in the champions league they want it on united because it's the biggest club in the world but when you're in the champions league you can charge a premium so brand deals and sponsorship deals go through the roof match day revenues you've got an extra match a week and it's a champions league game what a lot of people want to come and watch the money you would make is it's massive it's a huge huge injection of cash for getting of the Champions League. So it's food for thought. If your top quality midfielders aren't available in January, then why not go and get your top quality forward?

50:04Because we're looking for a striker to go alongside Zesko anyway. I know Semenyo's not a striker, but he's a quality forward player and Amorim likes to play with a versatile forward player. So it's food for thought.

50:16Shuamini, someone just said there, Savage says, Semenyo is a brilliant player, no doubt there. I just thought 65 million is a lot for a wing-back. I don't think he'll play wing-back. If it's Liverpool's dream, then we could sabotage it. I think he'll go to Liverpool, if I'm being honest, but I would like to be in the race. Vincent says, Semenyo is best dreamio. It's not as if he's my absolute dream,

50:38United Stand Hosts: but what I like at United and what my goal is at United is for us to have top-quality players who can play top-quality Premier League football. Semenyo ticks that box and Bumo ticks that box can you take that box like players that can play at the top level and are gonna come in and you just know equality that's what i want because you have better players all over the pitch you're gonna do better anyway this is the news that i'll finish up on on shu amini so it's coming out from spain that arum side have earmarked shu amini as a serious option and have already submitted a formal proposal worth around£79 million to sign him.

51:22The structure of the bid is a£62 million in guaranteed fee plus£17 million in add-ons. Yeah, and I've submitted a fee to buy a Lamborghini tomorrow. Not happened. Not happened, I'm going to be so honest. However, Real Madrid consider the Frenchman untouchable and have rejected the offer. Although the former AS Monaco star received criticism last term, he's established himself as an undisputed starter in Jabby Alonso's start 11 this campaign. The Spanish outlet report that despite seeing that opening bid turned down, Man United haven't given up hope of securing Shu Amini's service and are determined to lure into Old Trafford.

51:57United have also started trying to entice the player to join. The 25-year-old is 6 '2 in height, is a defensive midfielder by treat, but is also comfortable in the box-to-box role. Furthermore, he can provide cover in the centre-back position if needed. Shu Amini is dynamic, technically sound, strong, good in the air and he has an eye for a longer range pass, making him efficient in that area. And he's also efficient in defensive contributions. He possesses the necessary attributes to flourish in the Premier League. So the Real Madrid star would be a great coup for Manchester United should they eventually manage to purchase him.

52:35And do you know what? I agree with all them points. I think he would be great in the Premier League. I think he's a really good option for that system. Can play centre-back if needs must, but I wouldn't be playing him at centre-back. Can play box-to-box, can play the centre-defensive midfield, really good in defensive transitions, really good at winning the ball back, really good passing range, technically sound, press-resistant, good long-range passing. I really agree that physical and I think he'd be a quality, quality player to play in Ruben Aron's system in that midfield. However, a couple of things I would go off is we've not submitted a proposal worth£79 million.

53:14the most you've probably done is knocked on the door and asked but we've absolutely not submitted a proposal of 79 million I think someone's pulled that out of out of I mean I don't want to disrespect if they've got an exclusive and it comes out in the next few days from top top tier journalists that you know Man United have put together a 79 million proposal to sign Shu Uemini I'll sit on this show and I'll say fair play you are you know you are correct and you have just got a brilliant scoop I just don't think United have put that put that bid together to be honest with you I don't know where that's been pulled from but I don't agree with it but I can imagine that we have got interest in Shuamini because he kind of was in and out of Real Madrid's team and he never really hit the heights that was expected of him but he is a good quality player and you can see the quality that is there with him and he would really see what Amrim's trying to do and and and and with Shuamini, he is, I'm pretty sure, 25, he's 25 years old, so he's at the perfect age to come in, he's got experience behind him, he's won stuff, he's played for one of the biggest clubs in the world, he knows the pressure of putting on that kind of shirt, so I can see why United would be interesting in him, he's always been, I've done shows before where I've said Shuamini is my top target for midfield, I would love Shuamini United, I wanted him before he went to Real Madrid, but he would be my top target for a midfield if he couldn't get fully settled at Real Madrid, however I just think it would be difficult to do this deal and the community mentioned something the other day when we spoke about on the show which I thought was a great point injury he's quite a few injury problems with his foot and ankle which puts me off slightly we need players that are that are really fit and and and ready to hi I'm Angie Hicks co-founder of Angie when you use Angie for your home projects you know all your jobs will be done well roof repair done well Kitchen sink install?

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57:00issues with injuries before but as a player I really really like him but Mr Miracle has put in a chat I have a French man in my discord I have a French man in my discord so I watch all the France games and PSG and Real Madrid he's like McTominay in midfield very low poor very poor IQ and decision making when I've watched him I think he's been really good but also So we could do with McTominay in Armifield right now. McSauce was untapped potential, I tell you that. I mean, he provided for United in some really good moments, but what he's done since he's left? Fantastic player. Did you see that overhead kick he did?

57:37Overhead kick he did for Scotland. What he's done for Napoli? Ballon d 'Or. Ballon d 'Or contender. Scott McTominay. So I wouldn't use that to try and discredit Shuamini. I do think Shuamini is a good player, though. I don't agree with what you've just said. From when I've watched him, I've obviously not watched every Shu Amini game. You might have watched him way more than me. And if you watch someone more, I would suggest you have, if you've watched all the French games and you watch every game for Real Madrid, I suspect you have watched him more than me. The games I've watched him, I've watched quite a lot of Real Madrid and I watched him before I went to Real Madrid.

58:06I've really, really liked him. Just my personal opinion. But when you have a bigger sample size to go off, players will make mistakes, of course they will. I think Ricky sent me before. Scott McTominay's overhead kick the height he hit the ball was 8 foot 3 in the air incredible really really is incredible we've got a super jack in here from Mini19 this is the best time to play Mania you've got a few games before January window opens I would love to see Mania start getting some game time now and I think this is a real opportunity to do so because now no international break for a while I think is the next international break March?

58:46I think it is we've got a lot of fixtures you know clogging up the christmas period which i love i love loads of games in around christmas i think it you know adds to the christmas spirit we're gonna have to do a little bit of rotation here and there you know a lot of a lot of christmas fixtures and we we have got some midweek games i'd really like to see mainu start getting some games game time in them and i would actually like to see him getting some starts as well i would like copy mainu within this busy busy christmas period to start getting some game time and more so getting some starts in this starting 11 I think that was the opportunity to do so I'd like to see it but thank you everyone for watching Idri says Luke Shaw yeah I can bring in the Luke Shaw stuff another time it's not it's not too much in it just Ruben Amram basically thinking Luke Shaw is is is a world-class player stating is a world-class player and it means that Leitcha Martinez might have to fight through sport I don't think he's automatically going to come back into this team but let's see smash a like on the video if you've not already speaking of Christmas the link to the Christmas jumper

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