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25 Nov 2025 · 1h 6m · 20 chapters

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252: Amorim OUT? We Need to START AGAIN!

In short

Mark Goldbridge rages about Manchester United’s identity collapse after a “pitiful” 1-0 home loss to Everton (largely against 10 men). He argues the club lacks control from owners to players, that the football is “crap” and inconsistent, and that a reset is needed—especially ownership change. He supports Ruben Amorim for now (“Amorim in”), but says Amorim may not be the right long-term fit because he can’t adapt tactics vs 10 men and keeps underperformers like Luke Shaw on.

Guest backgrounds

No guests are interviewed in this transcript. It’s a solo monologue with references to public figures (Paul Scholes, Gary Neville, Carragher, Sir Jim Radcliffe).

Key claims

United’s midfield and striker depth are inadequate; the summer recruitment didn’t prepare for Europe; players are “not trustworthy” and allegedly get better during international breaks then drop off; Amorim’s system fails late-game vs Everton.

Notable examples

Luke Shaw’s second-half decline; Bruno Fernandes’ post-match comments; James Garner outperforming Bruno/Casemiro; “bomb squad” PR; failures vs Brentford/Everton; reliance on young goalkeeper/striker (Lemmens/Sesko) and lack of backup.

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Chapters

0:45

Reflections on Recent Performance

Discussion on feelings of frustration and loss of club identity after the recent match.

“Maybe you want to go with my go and be silent.”
2:00

Critique of Management and Players

A deep dive into the managerial choices and players' performances, highlighting trust issues.

“And we're not heading in the right direction.”
5:50

Dissection of Individual Players

A critical analysis of specific players, their roles, and their effectiveness on the pitch.

“It's got no identity and that is represented on the pitch as well.”
8:40

Managerial Accountability

Mark discusses the need for accountability within the management and its impact on the team.

“You couldn't control the tempo of a fucking radio.”
11:40

Fan Reactions and Future Outlook

Explores fan sentiments about the team's situation and their expectations moving forward.

“They turned a switch when Mourinho got sacked.”
14:00

Frustration with Team Performance

Discussion on the disappointing style of football and fan reactions.

“because we beat Brighton, Liverpool and Sunderland and some of them did come out and there was one guy before the start of the game yesterday who said, I don't care if you win 4-0.”
15:08

Analyzing the Amorim Situation

Exploration of the arguments for and against sacking Amorim as manager.

“Many of us spoke about in the summer that that midfield needed investment and we didn't get it.”
17:28

Team Weaknesses and Squad Depth

A detailed analysis of the team's weaknesses, including midfield and striker issues.

“And in this level of football, and let's not forget, before Idrissa Gueye got sent off, we were being dominated in the midfield.”
21:04

Concerns Over Team Construction

Critique of the team's construction and preparation for the season.

“But the midfield, up front and out wide is really weak.”
22:54

The Reality of United's Challenges

Addressing the overarching problems of ownership, management, and player quality.

“midfield, I mean, you look at the bench yesterday and I mean, I can't understand why OB wasn't there.”
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24:46

Cycle of Managerial Changes

Discussion on the cyclical nature of managerial changes and their impacts.

“I understand the frustration, But we need to be more pragmatic about this.”
28:00

Evaluating Amorim's Management Decisions

The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of Amorim as a manager and the implications of his decisions on the team's performance.

“What I've just described there, and I'm almost going back to myself and going, you're a fucking hypocrite because I am.”
39:01

The Call for Major Change at Manchester United

The segment emphasizes the need for deeper structural changes at the club rather than just sacking the manager, addressing ownership and culture.

“The only way to fix Man United is a reset.”
42:00

Examining Managerial Failures

Discussion about the Glazers' impact on the club and the managerial failures of Amorim.

“At some point, you've got to realise that the Glazers are sinking this football club.”
43:40

Cultural Issues at Manchester United

Exploration of the cultural and leadership problems within Manchester United's squad.

“The bomb squad are still there because the bomb squad played in the Europa League final.”
47:06

Accountability and Future Prospects

Discussion on the lack of accountability at the club and the need for a comprehensive rebuild.

“Yoro will only get dropped if Maguire's fit.”
51:36

Ineffectiveness of Current Strategies

Critique of the current strategies employed by the manager and the team's inconsistency.

“but when we got him, I got very excited because I was like, I like sporting, I like Amarim and we're going to have to spend a lot of money to get the team like that.”
56:00

Analyzing Player Attitudes and Privilege

Discussion on the mindset of players and how privilege affects their performance.

“Reds, and we're dismantling our heritage for an unproven manager.”
57:55

Amorim's Management and Team Dynamics

Debate on whether Amorim is the right manager and the players' commitment to the team.

“His 72 needles Look I think With Amrim You've got 59 % of you Amrim in And 40 % of you Amrim out I think that's about right I think he needs more.”
1:00:41

Frustration with Inconsistency and Club Management

Expressing frustration over team inconsistency and the management's failure to address issues.

“It needs to be said because what will happen is we'll beat Palace, Bruno will get a hat trick and everyone will go, oh, shut up with your Bruno agenda because that's flip-flops.”
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0:00Thank you.

0:37Sorry, you didn't miss much. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. This is your latest Man United News. How are you all doing this morning? Let me know in the comments. Maybe you want to go with my go and be silent. I don't want to be silent. I've got lots I want to talk to you about this morning. Give me your thoughts. Look, ultimately, it's time to be real. I'm still absolutely stunned about last night, how you can turn up and deliver that to us, the fans. But, you know, I was listening to Paul Scholes this morning about how he doesn't know anybody at the club.

1:10And if he wants tickets, you know, he doesn't know who to talk to. And I know that's a minor thing, but that represents what we are as a football club. We've lost complete and utter control of our identity. We're only Man United to us. The club from top to bottom is rotten. And I don't trust these players. You can trust them. I think you're a fool if you do. You cannot trust these players. You cannot trust these owners. And we're now in a position where we've got to look at it. And the reality is, when we start off talking about Amorim, he is presiding over the worst tenure of a Man United manager, probably in our history.

1:46I mean, certainly in Premier League history. I know he beat Liverpool, Sunderland and Brighton. But even in doing that, I said he's got to win 12 games in a row just to get near Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's win ratio. And he hasn't done that. He's drawn two and he's lost one. His win ratio is abysmal. Their team is abysmal. And we're not heading in the right direction. Like that's the bottom line is we're not heading in the right direction. The football is crap. Like we did a video in the international break about how we don't have 50 % possession most games. We're just really direct. We're going with short-term stopgap football to get results.

2:25So now we're not getting results. You know, it's a shambles. And to talk about the players, I think it's really important to realise that last night, if that had been away from home, I think we'd have got beat 4 or 5-0. I think we were protected by an old Trafford environment, stopping it being a thrashing. It was pitiful. And to lose 1-0 to 10 men, and there'd been 10 men for most of the game, I think people need to understand it wasn't just 1-0. That was the sort of performance that if we'd done that away from home, that would have been 7-0, 5-0. That's how bad it was. It was unbelievable. And to talk about the players as well, because I'll forget some of this stuff I want to get out.

3:13Isn't it coincidental that, you know, we're trying to figure out how the players can go on the pitch and put in an abject performance like that? I've sort of figured it out. Is it a coincidence now that some of these players are getting new contract conversations? You know, Casemiro, you know, oh, Man United want a new contract. Fucking shit. Next game. Oh, there's no international break until March now. A load of shit. How many players have been playing for national team call-ups. That's what I'm saying, because some of these players have been playing unrecognisably well, and then, oh, the international breaks are over now.

3:51I'll be shit again. They're just not trustworthy. They're not trustworthy. And I rarely agree. In fact, I'm claiming this. I heard that Gary Neville called Luke Shaw a waste of time or a waste of space. I'm claiming this. I've been saying it for weeks and so have some of you. He is a bloody waste of space. He's only playing because he wants to get in the England squad. He's fucking useless. Second half yesterday is blowing out of his arse because every bloody game he plays, he's knackered in the second half. And Amrim keeps him on all game. And that goes back to the manager. But these players, they're not worth the name on the back of the shirt.

4:29They can have it this morning. They can fucking have it. They all can have it because not one of them turned up yesterday. But you can't trust these players. You cannot trust them. And if you do, you're a fool. You're an absolute fool. I can't understand why, you know, I feel sorry for these kids who walk around with Bruno on the back of the shirt or, you know, anybody else on the back of the shirt because you can't trust them. You may as well put your name on the back of the shirt because you get it and you can trust yourself and you can trust your support for this football club. Nobody should have a player on the back of the shirt.

5:02They're not worthy of it. Absolutely not worthy of it. It was. And also, I want to say this as well. Like there are there is scrutiny on Barada. There is scrutiny on Wilcox. Who are these people? Who are these people and why do people trust them? We've got to do this. We know what we're doing. We've got this plan. Who are you? One of you was a bloody Southampton director of football for about five minutes and was a youth team coach at Man City. You were a bloody backup guy at Man City, Barada. Who are these people? Why are we trusting these people over 20, 30, 40, 50 years of fandom knowing what this football club's all about?

5:43Sir Jim Radcliffe's a lifelong Man United fan. Is he bollocks? The Glazers are bloody vampires. The club's on its arse. It's got no identity and that is represented on the pitch as well. And yes, there's a conversation to be had about the manager, but I'm telling you now, replace the manager. I don't think anything changes because the club from top to bottom is done. And that's not going to be a one-off. We've already had Brentford and Everton this season. Isn't it coincidental that our two worst performances have come against teams we need to beat? Brentford and Everton, shambolic. And you know what?

6:19I feel a fool. I feel a fool because after that Liverpool result, I'm like, oh my God, we've been to Everton. We've been to Liverpool and won. Forget that Anfield result now because it's just been nullified by losing. You don't go to Anfield and win and then gloat about it when you come to Old Trafford and lose to 10 men Everton. Forget the Anfield win. It means fucking nothing. Liverpool are shit anyway. That doesn't mean anything. Winning at Anfield means nothing now because we lose at home to Everton because that's what we do. It's like Lyon. Lyon was an amazing night at Old Trafford, but it means nothing because we don't turn up against Spurs and that's who we are.

6:57So look, a few home truths this morning. I mean, you've got Bruno... I mean, I'm going to be all over the place this morning. This is what Bruno Fernandes said after the game. I tell you what, I feel like banging a bloody table because I'm tired of these gormless prats stood there like this. He's got bloody earphones in and he stood there like this. Fuck off, you useless twats. I'm so fed up of them. I'm so fed up of them. Every time they win a game, they're on socials going, go for it, bro. oh yeah, you're so hot. Oh yeah. Oh, you're cooking. You're cooking. And then you just sit there and you go, knobheads.

7:34Knobheads. Because there you are jumping. They've probably got their agent going, get online. Get online. You've won a game. Who knows when it happens again? Get online. Milk it like a cow. And they're there. As soon as we win a game, oh yeah, banter, banter. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, banter, banter. Yeah, we're so good. And then here we are again. 4K, losing to Everton at home against 10 men, rolling out with, you know, it's that vacant look of shock. You bloody did it. What are you shocked about? You've just walked around for 90 minutes playing shit. Anyway, this is what our captain had to say after the game.

8:10I'm a player who plays the ball forward a lot of times and I break the lines. We have two number 10s who need that service to play the balls through. That's why the manager wants me in midfield, to have more of the ball and control the tempo of the team. He knows I can run a lot, press high and get my body back there when we need to get to the box and defend. Oh my God. If that's what you're meant to do, mate, why don't you do it? If you understand why you're in the midfield, why don't you do any of those things? I'm meant to control the tempo of the game. You couldn't control the tempo of a fucking radio.

8:43Absolute prat. I've got to move the ball and control the tempo. I run around a lot. Yeah, like a fucking headless chicken. You've got no discipline at all. At all. I can press high and I can get my body back when we need to defend. Mate, if you can get back, I'd rather have a cardboard box blowing in the wind as a defender than you. How many goals have you cost us this season for not tracking runners and not getting back? Yesterday, Fulham. There's another one, Man City. You're responsible for about five goals this season. But I can get back. I can get forward. I can control the game. What? What are you doing?

9:21Is Bruno picking one of these up at home and doing that? Because he ain't bloody doing it on the pitch, is he? I can control the tempo. I can get back. I run around everywhere. No, you bloody don't, mate. I feed the strikers. Come on. You're deluded, pal. You're as deluded as the bloody manager. You aren't a midfielder. You're not a midfielder. You're not a midfielder. Don't fall for the bloody gimmick. You're not a midfielder. You don't control the tempo. You don't defend well and you aren't disciplined. You are one of the biggest problems in that team because you are being played out of position.

9:58And yesterday, James Garner made you look like a cardboard box and made himself look like prime fucking Rodri. You know, it's Dewsbury Hall rinsed you like a bloody cloth. Yeah, I mean, some of the bollocks, but you have to always avoid it because if you read it, it just antagonizes you more. I can't listen. I can't listen to a United player anymore talk about how we're good and how we're bad. You're a waste of space, lads. You are a waste of space. You're an absolute bunch of frauds. You are not worthy of that shirt. And I'm tired of all of them. All of them. It's not individualized. I'm fed up of all of them.

10:39Because if you are part of that team, you are part of the problem. And you're all a fucking joke. Absolutely. I don't want to bloody interview any of you. Forget it. I wouldn't be allowed anyway, but I don't want to. I'm not interested. The only thing I'm interested... You are pawns on a chessboard. I'm interested in the king and the queen. you know, I'm interested in who's running this shop, not you lot. You fucking turn the turn. You turn up, you turn the switch on and off. Oh, you know what? I had a message from someone last night. They travelled fucking nine hours, nine hour trip there and back to watch that shit and spent all God knows what money, all that travelling.

11:22Absolute. You just can't trust them. And the ironic thing is, I remember saying when Solskjaer got his contract, we went away to Everton in the April and we lost, I don't know, 3-0, 4-0. And I said, you can't trust this squad. It was very recently we'd sacked Mourinho. They turned a switch when Mourinho got sacked. They played really well for three months. Oli got a contract and then they turned the switch again. And I went, you can't trust this dressing room. They're not worthy of our support. You cannot trust these knobheads. And you can't, you just can't trust them. They're not trustworthy at all.

12:04And you know what? I definitely think there's something in that. I really do. I really, really do. I think there's something in the fact that we finished the international season. I do. We've had three international breaks and loads of players have been playing really well. The international break season is over and suddenly you get a performance like that where you go, what the hell? Where has that come from? And it will be because some of those players don't need to play well for international call ups. You know, the mentality of that team is weak, weak, weak, weak. And we're going to see that every week.

12:43Now, we might beat Palace on Sunday. You know, let's not pretend the flip side of the coin. We're not going to be totally shit. This is what they do. They'll probably not like the criticism this week. So they'll turn the switch on against Palace and then they'll turn it off again. That's what they do. It's as simple as that. But look, going back on track. Well, I suppose it is on track in a sense. But when I look at that United side last night very, very quickly, because I don't want to talk about the game too much. But, you know, you know, like all this bollocks that comes out when we're doing well and you get, you know, Ineos.

13:18Oh, Sir Jim. You know, it makes me laugh. That's what I was going to say. You know what? All through the international break, if you watch the eight o 'clock shows, they're brilliant. Make sure you tune in for those. All through the international break, I've been coaxing the Amory Mouters. I've been saying you're still there. Don't be afraid. You can express your opinion in here. you might get a bit of shit in the chat but I will give you the time of day because I don't believe you can be sack Amrim after Grimsby sack Amrim after Brentford and then suddenly because we win three games and we've only won three games by the way we won three games in a row and we drew against Forest and Spurs and we were shit in them games so the warnings were coming I was like well you know the Amrim outers you are welcome like you can't just disappear because we beat Brighton, Liverpool and Sunderland and some of them did come out and there was one guy before the start of the game yesterday who said, I don't care if you win 4-0.

14:10This style of football is bloody embarrassing and I don't want it. Well, they had a premonition because we played shit football, but we didn't win. So look, in fairness, I think that a lot of people and what they've been saying are right. I'm not saying Amarim's out is right. I will talk about that in a moment. But what I'm saying is it's almost like we got, you know, for the last month, you've been ridiculed and criminalised if you had anything negative to say about Man United because we've been unbeaten for five games. And that is why I don't look a lot of my, I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated.

14:46I don't understand the ranters. You know, I saw a few people ranting last night and I don't understand it because a lot of these ranters are amory-mouters. So what are you surprised about? I go back to the days where I was used to rant under Solskjaer and all that. I was in shock. I couldn't believe what was happening to my football club. If you can't believe that result last night Where have you been for 10 years? That's not a shock The frustration is why it keeps happening I don't think Amrim out is a shock I don't think Amrim in is a shock I don't think Amrim doubters are shocked I think we're just angry We're frustrated And I think that's sort of like where we are And I think when I look at the Amrim out argument And I'm going to go through some of your comments as well I get it I do get it You know There's this Amorim doubts thing That's sort of Growing in this community And I completely Do get that I don't think You can sit there And say You know Everything is Is good at the football club The only thing I would say is If you sacked Amorim Where would you go And this is very relevant Because when I look at Unless that's not I'm not saying Don't sack Amorim Do what you bloody well like You know I've said that for a long time I said it with 10-hog last year.

16:00I'll tell you what I would do in a moment, but looking at it pragmatically, I look at that United side and I've got to speak honestly about the CEO, Berada, Wilcox, Sir Jim Radcliffe, the Glazers, take them as a collective here, right? Many of us spoke about in the summer that that midfield needed investment and we didn't get it. And here we are struggling. And I have to say, we're very bad at this as a fan base. In the summer, we nail it. We list the problems and we go, this is going to cause us a problem. But as soon as the season kicks off, we forget and we start judging results. And we go, basically, we start judging Solskjaer.

16:44We start judging Jose. We start judging Ten Hag. We start judging Amrim. But most of the time in the summer, we've highlighted where it's going to go wrong. but because the human body moves on we can't relate back to what we said in the summer because it was a few months ago but we all said it well most of us said in the summer that midfield is crap and it's going to be a problem and it has been a problem and we are losing games because of it now we know for a fact that Amram wanted a midfielder the club didn't deliver it so I think you've got to, you have to hold that. That's not an excuse entirely, but you do have to remember, we did discuss the need for midfield reinforcements and the club decided not to do it.

17:29And in this level of football, and let's not forget, before Idrissa Gueye got sent off, we were being dominated in the midfield. Casemiro and Bruno were horse shit last night. They were absolutely abysmal before the red card and inexplicably even after the red card. So that's something that's really important. But also, I look at that team. I look at this team. And if you sack Ruben Amrim, it still needs the thing I'm about to stay. So if you want to sack Amrim, that's fine. But I'm going to tell you this clearly. I look at that United side last night and I go, Amrim in, Amrim out. You've got no striker.

18:10There's no striker in that team. Sesko's injured. But, you know, is Sesko the guy? We don't know. We hope he is. But even if he is, we've only got one striker. We've got no striker. We're playing a team with 10 men and we can't bring a striker on. I can't. You know, I'm watching the game yesterday and I'm going, if I'm the manager, I'm taking off Luke Shaw and I'm bringing a striker on. Well, I'm taking off Luke Shaw, but I'm not bringing a bloody striker on. where I haven't got a striker to bring on. And that's not just because we're playing 10 men. I need a striker. I need a striker on that bench and we haven't got one.

18:50We haven't. The midfield, as we know, is redundantly shit and we're rubbish out wide. We're absolutely shit out wide. Let's be honest. I mean, Dorgue's a prospect. Lyon's a prospect. Deleuze left wing back again when you're trying to win a game. What the fuck's that all about? I mean, it's almost like a bloody, you know, what's that when you take your kid to school, take your kid to work day? I mean, when I watch Deleuze at left wing back, I'm almost like, are we doing this for charity? Where do we donate? Because, you know, there should be a hashtag on screen, donate here. You also could play left wing back for Man United.

19:29Masraoui looks miles off it. And Ahmad is our best wing player. And some people aren't convinced by him. So I look at that Man United side and I find it preposterous that Jim Radcliffe thinks that we've got a squad for top four. Mate, if you're a lifelong Man United fan, I don't think you're a week-long football fan. I don't think you know ball, pal. I really don't. That is not a top four side. Whoever let that brief out is a twat. I mean, we are not a top four side. Absolutely not. No chance. And that's not even taken into account the inconsistency. Look at the squad. And I'm going to scare you about something else in a minute.

20:12Look at that squad. It is not fit for purpose. 38 game Premier League season, you need need a squad. The midfield, our starting midfield is dodgy. Like it's dodgy. So the midfield is a huge problem. Up front, we're reliant on a new signing from a different league who's in his early 20s and that's it. There's nothing else. So Sesko not only needs to be a success, he needs to stay fucking fit every week. Well, that's not happening on either of those two things at the moment. So we've got no strike force. We've got no midfield. And out wide, which is a massive part of our system, that's dodgy as well.

20:56There's three areas of that team that are in trouble. The only two areas we're okay are centre-back and number 10. We've got loads of those. But the midfield, up front and out wide is really weak. And that's over half your team. And the scary thing is as well, and I'll back this player to the hilt. He's going to make mistakes. is a young player. If Lemens doesn't work, Lemens is like Sesco to me. We've got a young goalkeeper in his early 20s where if he doesn't work, we're fucked. You know, there is no, you know, goalkeeper and striker. There is no backup at all. And we're relying on kids. How the hell have they constructed this in a season where we need European football and we're nowhere near it.

21:43We're nowhere near it. What the fuck have they done in the summer? And this is why I go back to Wilcox, Barada, Ineos and the Glazers. When you look at it, what have they actually built in the summer to prepare us for European football next year? It's just not ready. It's just not ready at all. They've left massive... It's like having a castle and you're going to get attacked from all sides, right? And all you've got to do really is, okay, we might not have everything we need, but let's make sure all around the castle, there's no holes in it. Let's make sure there's no easy areas to exploit. Let's make that wall solid.

22:29And then at least we're not, people can't get at us. And we've left three big holes in our team. And there could be four or five by the end of the season. It's, you know, as the confidence drops, performance drops, we've seen that before. But look, Lemens and Sesko, hopefully they're going to be good. But if it goes wrong there, that's another two areas where we're really in trouble. But out wide, midfield, I mean, you look at the bench yesterday and I mean, I can't understand why OB wasn't there. Anyway, I've got to tell you what my thoughts are on Amrim. Let me do a poll on this because I just want to grab.

23:06I meant to do this at the start, but let's do this while I explain mine. Because there is some topical stuff I need to go through as well. Please do share the video and smash a like on the video and make sure you get your comments in as well. I have had a few super chats, which I will read all of them. So don't worry if you put one of those in. I'm just, we'll be going till 11 o 'clock this morning, I think, because there's a few things I want to go through. So look, am I Amrim in or Amrim out? You won't be surprised by me saying I'm supporting the manager at the moment. But I think in the past I've supported managers and I've said things like, you're not a real United fan if you want the manager out.

23:46I get passionate. I'm a human being. That's the way it is. I've got to say this morning, I have got no problem with anybody who was Amram out. I've got no problem at all. I respect it. I understand it. I think you might end up being right because history shows us you will. He is on the pathway to being sacked. I said it after Brentford. I said he is on the path. This could be the beginning of the end. And what sadly bothers me is that when I said that, and when I said after the Spurs game, that's horse shit. Loads of people jumped in and went, you're miserable Mona. You're so negative. The negative stand, this, that, and the other.

24:27It's not the negative stand, is it? It's the real stand. That's what it was built for 10 years ago. Real opinion. It doesn't mean it's right opinion, but it's how you feel opinion. And my opinion is that those people who are screaming Amram out, and I hope you're not screaming Amram out because why would you scream it? You don't need to. I don't understand the ranting and raging at the moment. I understand the frustration, But we need to be more pragmatic about this. This club is rotten from top to bottom. And I think that's the biggest problem. And it's scary what the focus is because we might beat Palace.

25:02We might go and win four games in a row and everyone will start about top four again. And I'm going to sit here and go, it's good we've won the last four games in a row. But don't tell me that next week we might not have another Everton because it's definitely going to happen. How you predict a Man United game now, we'll do previews, but I'm not predicting results. There's no point. What's the point? I don't know. I don't know. You know, I thought we'd beat Everton 3-0 comfortably. And I think everything, everything, you know, people spoke about jinxing. I'm like, hold on a minute. Our home record this season's really good.

25:34The crowd's been good. The players have responded to that. We've scored loads of goals. We've been really good at home this season. Sunderland, Brighton, Chelsea, even Arsenal. We've been very good at home this season. And then that, and you sort of like go, you can't trust that. You just can't trust it. Anyway, I'll answer the question. I am absolutely convinced that the two biggest issues, and I said this a few weeks ago, there are three issues at Man United. There is ownership, manager and players. I'm absolutely convinced And I said this under Ten Hag And I said it under Oli as well The biggest issues If I could remove The vast majority of that playing squad I'd do it before I did Amrim And if I could remove the owners I'd do that before removing the players and Amrim So for me, Amrim is the third thing I would remove And I'm tired of us removing the thing That's not totally responsible He is responsible But I don't think he's totally responsible and I feel the same about Solskjaer and the same about Jose and the same about Ten Hag and I'm tired of removing the thing that's not actually the main problem.

26:45For me, in the ideal scenario, I remove the glazes in Ineos, I bring proper owners in, they look at the manager, maybe he's not their guy, they get rid of him and they massively revamp this squad and that's the only way back for United and many of us have been saying that for years and that I sit here today and go, I'm tired of saying it, but that's the only way we're coming back. Change the manager. Okay. Iriola, Glasner, whoever else you want, right? They come in, same problem in the next year or two. We will keep having this problem because the new manager will come in and he will go, well, Amrim's the past.

27:24I'm in charge now. I just love Bruno. I just love Luke Shaw. I just love Harry Maguire. I love DeLau. I love the smile on their face. I I love how they're so well respected in the dressing room. And I love these players and they'll be playing again. And, you know, we'll buy a few players and then they'll get infected by the other players. And the results will start. And we've been around this block so many times. I just can't do it anymore. I don't see any excitement in sacking a manager and doing the same thing again. However, however, that doesn't mean Amrim's the right guy because that is symbolic.

28:00What I've just described there, and I'm almost going back to myself and going, you're a fucking hypocrite because I am. What I'm describing there is I don't want to keep doing this cycle. That doesn't mean Amorim's the right guy. Maybe Mourinho shouldn't have been sacked. Maybe Oli shouldn't have been sacked. Maybe they should have been sacked. But with Amorim, I don't want to sack him because I don't think the manager is the problem at Man United. But it doesn't mean he's the right guy. And that's a point because when you look at Amorim, like his inability to change his system in a game like that is scary.

28:39It's really scary. Like I'm watching the game and I'm watching Luke Shaw be a waste of space in the second half when I need to win that game. and I'm going, it doesn't matter whether it's Lacey or Agata. It doesn't matter. I need to take Luke Shaw off and put that body high up the pitch. It's illogical. It's so illogical. I'm watching the game and I'm going, you've got Yoro, De Litt and Luke Shaw, and then you've got your two wider players pushing forward. But I don't need those three centre-backs. I don't need them. And yeah, Yoro's on the edge of the box, whatever. But if I take Luke Shaw off and I bring on Lacey or whoever, and I say to them, go into the box, I'm not going to lose anything.

29:27But, you know, it's not like Everton are attacking me. I'm going to gain a man in the box. I mean, Moyes must have been stood there on the halfway line going, how much longer is he going to keep playing three centre-backs here? It's just making my job easy. And I'm like, I'm watching that and I'm going, that's not about formation, by the way. This is a unique situation. If you're playing against 11 men, I ain't got a problem with him playing a 3-4-3. But when you're playing against 10 men, you don't need that. And also Luke Shaw was having a shocker. So, you know, Amarim has to be at fault for that.

29:59But also, I would love to know, and this is important, and it keeps rearing its head. And the reality is, if I could be asked, I'd go and get the clip from the video because it would make you and me look very, very intelligent. But to be honest, most of the club, most of the fan base know this. I remember before the Europa League final, when Bruno had been approached by Saudi, there was a lot of people saying, oh, I don't know whether we should take the money or not. And then after the Europa League final, it was still being discussed. And most people had just had enough of the fact that we'd lost the Europa League final and we'd not turned up.

30:41Hey, anyone remember that? Anyone recognise that? So we don't turn up against Spurs. We know that Bruno's in talks with Saudi. And a lot of us said, if he's playing in the midfield, sell him to Saudi. And Amorim and the club said no. And at that time, when we were doing the show about that, a lot of people were saying that decision might be the decision that costs him his job. And that was said, I'm not being melodramatic, that was definitely discussed on this channel around that time And it was that symbolic that people felt that Bruno Fernandes had had his time at the club Thank you very much, off you go, take the money, rebuild the midfield and let's have a proper rebuild And for whatever reason, and Amrim has to take responsibility for this because that's what the manager does we decided to not take 80, 90 million pounds and use him in the midfield.

31:45And now look at what's happened. That decision isn't the reason we are where we are, but that decision by this manager was catastrophic. And I remember at the time saying, I want to be wrong. We all need to be wrong on this because it's such a big call. And if he gets it wrong, it's going to be held against him. And that call was wrong. And I said it last night, so I'm not going to dwell on it anymore. And there's some comments I need to go through. But I am tired. This is the third thing I'd say about Amrim. I am tired of managers. And I said it about Ten Hag as well. And Mourinho did it with Van Gaal.

32:27Every manager, and maybe it's just a manager thing, but every manager we employ walks into the club, turns their back on the previous manager and just goes, I'm here now. I don't know whether it's ego or what, but I've never known, never known. It's like, you know what? A plane lands in New York, right? And the pilot gets off and you're flying the plane back. And the pilot who's got off says, fucking hell, that flight was terrible. Turbulence here, there and everywhere. Look, if I was you on the way back, I'd avoid this thing. And you go, shut up. I'm not interested in what you've done. I'm the pilot.

33:12I'll do it, right? And that is the best explanation I can give. Like, there's so much learning from what Mourinho could have took from Van Gaal, what Oli could have took from Mourinho, what Ten Hag could have took from Oli and Ranić, and what Amrim could have took from Ten Hag. But nobody does. They don't need to have a chat with those managers. You can just literally go and watch it back. Like, nobody takes any learning from the previous manager at all. Because in the case of Ameren, like, it's so bloody. Look, and people say, well, I got rid of Rashford. We got rid of Rashford because of his wage.

33:55The club want to get rid of Casemiro. We want to get rid of Sancho. Most of the players we've got rid of is because of their wage. It's an Ineos-driven thing. Like, I look at what was going on And look, Deleuze got Ten Hag the sack Like he missed the fucking open goal And he was playing shit But he's a key player for Amrim Bruno has been pretty Look, his stats cover up a lot That's all I'm going to say about Bruno It's not like a shock that Bruno Bruno's, in my opinion Been ridiculously inconsistent for about two years Casemiro, legs have been gone for two years And these are all key players for Amrim And I go, you know, if Amrim leaves The next manager has to learn from the previous manager Because none of them do And I think we're all going to share this I think we're all very, very tired of knowing better than the manager And that sounds ridiculously arrogant, but you do There are so many things that we knew that Ten Hag didn't know No.

35:02There are so many things that we know that Amrim doesn't know. There are so many things. And the reason that happens is because you're fans of the club and you're here week in, week out, year in, year out. And you've got learning and experience. But these managers don't bother. They turn up and go, oh, I'm here now. And it's the most, if I take a job because something's in trouble, I don't walk in and go, I don't care what the trouble is. We'll figure it out. I go, what went wrong? What went wrong then? Why did it go? It's mad. It's madness to me. Do I think we can get top four?

35:48The harsh reality is every single one of us have said that we're inconsistent. So we can't moan about top four being impossible when we're not consistent. You know, the definition of inconsistency is what we did last night. You go to Anfield and win and then you lose to Everton with 10 men at Old Trafford. Like, that's inconsistency. Games are won and lost in the midfield. We don't have a midfield. We don't have a strike force. We've got a young goalkeeper and the width is crab. You know, I think at centre-back, we're not too bad. I think at number 10, we're not too bad. obviously they get dragged down by everybody else.

36:28We've seen that the likes of De Ligt and Yorou can be good players when we're playing well. And we've seen that Mbermo and Cunha can be good players when we're playing well. But the rest of the team is a bloody mess. And as I said, the fact that Sir Jim Radcliffe thinks that this is a top four team shows you exactly what he knows about football, which is very, very little. But the only change we genuinely need... Sorry, anyway, let me just clarify. I can't believe I'm saying this I understand why people are hammering him out I think sacking the manager changes nothing So I would stick with the manager But if we don't change the ownership of this football club At some point in the very near future I think we're destined to be stuck like this for a very long time They're trying to build a new stadium that's going to make them money But that won't make them money for five, six years You know, five or six years they're going to lose a shitload of money not being in Europe again I don't think we're going to be in Europe again at the moment so another season like this is going to you know we're heading down a road where things are actually going to get worse you're not going to get Elliot Anderson you're not going to get Stilla you're not going to get that quality of player we're going to end up with Baleba who will be like Man United you know he'll have a good game against Liverpool and he'll be shit against Everton I mean Baleba at the moment is perfect for us talented player who is ridiculously inconsistent.

37:55We need the... Well, I'm not going to say we need the protest back. We need a movement that removes these owners. They are going to sink this football club. And you know what? Going back on Amrim, it's a safe space to say this. Maybe Amrim's not the guy. Maybe I'm not going to sit here and say he's the guy. Have I said that? No. I just don't want to sack another manager. It's symbolic. It's not about him. I like Amrim. I like the way he speaks, but his performance is a shit. And correct me if I'm wrong, the scary thing is he's chasing the ball to get it back for throw-ins. He stood up for all of the game.

38:37He's on the touchline for all of the game. And he can't get anything out of those players. That, my friends, is probably the most definitive thing I'm going to say. The manager was trying everything and we were getting worse. But when he can't get something out of that team against 10 men, there's a big, big problem. So we are in huge, huge trouble. The only way to fix Man United is a reset. That's it. The only way to fix United is a reset. And you're never going to get a reset while the Glazers own the football club. And the Glazers own the football club. It's not Sir Jim Radcliffe. So I think we've got a group of people who don't actually know what they're doing.

39:16The Glazers are useless. I don't think Sir Jim's any better. And I'm not convinced Barada and Wilcox are. I think they live off good results. If we win, oh, let's do an interview. If we sign a player, oh, yeah. But when it's wrong, that's when it matters. And I think that the scary thing is, I don't think this club can afford not to be in Europe. And it's not going to be in Europe. Now, the January transfer window is coming. If they don't do something significant in that window, then I dread to think where we could be in a year's time. It's perilous. And that old statement, again, is if we tolerate this, then our children will be next.

39:59And what that means is this could get a lot worse for a very, very long time. We need major change at that football club. Yeah, we can sack the manager, but we need major change at that football club. And what we need is people like you and me, somebody who's got the money to buy that football club who knows what Man United is. We've lost control of what that football club is. It's not Manchester United anymore. It's a brand. And that's where the success is. We'll still make a lot of money. As I said last night, oh, Adidas, can you design a kit that's a bit like a kit from when we were good? Everyone will buy that.

40:32It's nostalgic. We're just nostalgia. That's what we are. Right. Let me go through some of your comments because we've had a few coming in this morning. 10 ,000 watching. Thanks to everyone who's watching. Make sure you smash a like and share the video. So let's have a look at what you lot have got to say because I've had quite a lot to say. And I've still got a lot more. There's a load more stuff I want to say. I'll bring it into the seven o 'clock show tonight. But I want to get into your comments. So Max says, Salmenu, Shaw, Deleu, Baisemenu and Anderson. Marlo United says Rashford, Sancho.

41:09I mean, can I just go back to that comment? Salmenu, Shaw and Deleu and Baisemenu and Anderson. I mean, that always makes me want to throw up. So you want to keep Bruno and Casemiro? You want to, you know, mate, fucking hell. It's not that simple. You've sold three players and bought two and oh, we're fine. Come on. This is pandemic. throughout this football club. Amrim would have held Scholes back for McClare, says the beautiful game. Matteo says, if you look at certain clubs that have gone through resets and have had some success, either the manager or the best players or both get the boot. But we've done that, mate.

41:47That's what I'm saying. We've sacked managers. We've bought new players in. And what you're basically saying is, oh, if we want to be successful, we need to sack the manager and replace some players. We've done all this. At some point, you've got to realise that the Glazers are sinking this football club. And that's the change we need to make. But no one wants to talk about that. Mark, statistically, Amrim is clearly the worst manager we've had in the past 13 years. Please name one achievement he's done since he got here, says Default. He flips so fast on Amrim, it's engagement driven, says Thomas.

42:23I mean, Thomas, I almost feel sorry for you because I think we're having quite an intelligent conversation here and I'm wasting too much time on an idiot. But you don't listen. I'm not Amram out. So why am I flipping? Literally haven't said that. In fact, the opposite. So sorry for wasting my time on Thomas, but he did do a super chat. Also, Marlow's here. Marlow's very intelligent when it comes to being realistic. Says Rashford, Sancho, Ganacho were just symptoms of a bad culture. Amram will not be able to change that culture with the leadership team he's picked. If he doesn't realise it, he deserves the sack.

42:58I think this is a great point from Marlowe. The bomb squad was the biggest PR bollocks I've ever heard. The bomb squad were named the bomb squad because they were apparently the issue at the football club. As I said many times, Rashford, Anthony, Sancho, Malassia weren't playing for Man United for most of last season. Ganacho was the only player that was. So Ganacho was the problem at Man United. I'm glad we've got rid of him, but the Europa League final team is basically what happened last night. Ganacho didn't start, none of the bomb squad were there. We got mugged off by the club spinning the bomb squad as the problem.

43:43The bomb squad are still there because the bomb squad played in the Europa League final. Now you can decide which players they are. I know who I would go for, but we never got rid of the problems. It was just packaged up that it was Rashford and co. Those players did need to go. I'm not saying they weren't the problem but the problem wasn't five players. It was about 12. We've not even got halfway there removing the culture that the problem is at Man United. Look, I'll give you names. Luke Shaw needs to go. Casemiro needs to go. Deleuze needs to go. Bruno needs to go. I would move Maguire on. I don't mind Maguire, but I would move him.

44:25I mean, I like Bruno. I like Casemiro, but they need to go. They're basically the leadership team. Need to go. They're not leaders. They're the wrong players to have to rebuild the football club. They're attached to the past too much. We'd be better off. I don't mind losing to Everton at home if we don't have any of them five players playing because they're gone and we're building something new. But we're trying to build something new with the old. Makes no sense. 999 says maybe we should have seen the warning signs when West Ham decided against Amrim He has great potential but no willingness to adapt Laura says what makes you think we're going to get so many points out of the next games You said a lot of wins just don't see it It's a lottery each game with United Laura I said that before yesterday I think we were talking about it on Sunday night That from the 30 points available And there's only 27 available now We had to get a minimum of 22 That's not going to happen We're not going to get, you know, 22 points out of 27, but the games were very favourable.

45:26But I agree with you, Laura. I think after last night, I don't know whether we're going to lose to Wolves or beat Wolves. I don't know whether we're going to lose to Villa or beat, but I don't know what we're going to do anymore. We should get Moyes back, says I am. Morning, Mark. Where do we go from here then, says Roller. Well, it's very easy where we go from here Because we're Manchester United fans And whether Man United are bottom of the league or top of the league We support Manchester United And that's the love we have for the club Where we go from here is We demand better You know And that's what we've just spent the last hour discussing But What Man United will do is what's important What we would do As a democracy Is we would find ways to get Man United back on top We'd vote for it.

46:13We'd discuss it. We'd agree. We'd disagree. What Man United will do is what they always do. They'll stick their head in the air and their arse in the air and they'll bury their head in the sand. They won't do anything. They'll go, this is what Man United will be doing this morning. Tumbleweed. They won't do anything. There'll be nothing. The players know they're still going to get paid and they're still going to get picked. Amrim knows he's not going to get sacked because the owner has said three years. and the owners will go, at the end of the day, it takes time. There'll be no accountability for that shit.

46:47And that's why we fail, because there's no accountability for that shit. Realistically, a proper football club would be warning the manager, looking in the transfer market and transfer listing some of these players. We won't do any of that. And that's why we keep doing it, because the players go to work today and know there's no accountability. this is what I mean from top to bottom it's from top to bottom because the top don't do anything so the bottom goes there's no accountability there is no accountability at that football club Amrim's not under any pressure the players aren't Amrim's going to pick the same team on Sunday there's not going to be you know we can't beat 10 men at home he'll pick basically the same team who's he going to drop who's going to get dropped on Sunday the men's won't get dropped Ahmad won't get dropped And Bermot won't get dropped.

47:38De Ligt won't get dropped. Yoro will only get dropped if Maguire's fit. Shaw won't get dropped. He'd probably play Deleu at left wing back again. Scooby-Doo, great. Casemiro and Bruno won't get dropped. He won't make any changes for that game. Mount might start instead of Xerxes. That'll be it. So, you know, one or two changes from a team like that. There's no accountability. So that's what happens next. We wait for the next disaster. Tam says the team is lost like a horse at a disco with the system. If they don't want to play it properly, change it. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

48:14Look, on the system, Tom, I think you make a good point. These players have got low IQ, low mentality, and they're not capable of playing this system. If Ruben Amrin was in charge of Man City, he could make them play because they have the players to do it. These players can't play this system. I disagree I mean Carragher was straight in last night Talking about the system and the formation again Because he's got to justify buying his white trainers For Monday Night Football The system and the formation Is still not relevant Because We may as well have got Thomas Frank in Because Thomas Frank's system would suit these players Part of the bus and counter Which is what Amrim's been trying to do These players Aren't capable of playing the brand of football we want That's the bottom line.

49:05Do you think if we'd signed Grealish instead of City, we'd still be playing for us instead of Everton and that made us mid-table clubs as Sarvish? I mean, we don't sell players, yeah. Becker says, I've been a Luke, Leek, Ashore hater for at least a year. Get the leech out of our club. Thank you, Becker. Why are we making excuses? Both player and manager are just not Man United material. Second-rate collective will give you second-rate results, says Dave the Brave. We played 80 minutes against 10 men chasing an equaliser and our best player was at centre-back. That speaks volumes about our lack of ability, says Slazy.

49:34Mark, this manager is not it. You cannot play five against, five the back against Everton at home when they got 10 minutes. Unacceptable, says Evan. The fact we didn't go to a four is on one person, says Robert. I mean, again, like I say, we're having a conversation here. It's a great community. I'm not going to ridicule or shout or say you're wrong. I'm not. Would you welcome back James Garner, says Rajaf. I mean, James Garner is not the solution to our midfield, but he's better than any midfielder we've got. But there's a long list of that. Watch them go and beat Palace as it's Josh. I mean, I would not be surprised.

50:09You know what? Thing is, loads of people are saying Palace are going to beat us and maybe they will. But the definition of inconsistency is that you can go to Anfield and win and you can lose at Old Trafford against 10 men. That's what inconsistency is. So I wouldn't say it's impossible for us to beat Palace. Only hope is the Glazers are on the Epstein list, says Simon. Sack or don't sack the manager, who cares? No player deserves a contract extension. Any player that's been here three years can go or are accountable, says John. I mean, the fact that we're negotiating with Casemiro for a new contract symbolises exactly what this football club is.

50:45As useless as a chocolate fire guard, says James, when Ineos employed Amrim, only two or three players in the squad fitted his system. No company would employ a leader that is so ill-suited to its workforce. Absolutely criminal. Marlowe, again, absolutely nailed it. Like this, we've been talking about this for a long time. I was shocked when we gave Amirim the job because he doesn't suit this football club. I don't like anything other than a back four. But what excited me about it was, logically, if you give somebody the job that doesn't suit your team and doesn't suit your club, it means you're going to have to spend a lot of money to make it suit.

51:22We haven't done that. So what we've actually done is we brought in a manager that doesn't suit our club and then gone. Why isn't it working? I didn't want a manager that plays 3-4-3 and I didn't think Amarim was a good fit for Man United. but when we got him, I got very excited because I was like, I like sporting, I like Amarim and we're going to have to spend a lot of money to get the team like that. Well, we haven't done that. We haven't done that. So what, which goes back to Ineos, Barada and Wilcox, their chances, they've basically done what idiots do. They've gone, if we get a good manager and bring him here, he'll be a good manager.

52:08But it's like saying, if we put Erling Haaland up front, he'll score the same amount of goals as he will for Man City. Well, no, he won't if he doesn't get the service. And it's the same with a manager. If you put a good manager at Man United, doesn't mean he's going to be a good manager. We've ruined plenty of managers. And I think I'm starting to think, and I have done for a long time, that we recruited Amarin because he was a good manager. And we didn't actually consider that, like, it's not, if you bring a manager in like that, that doesn't suit your club, you need to spend a bloody lot of money to get him to suit it.

52:43And we're balls deep in this now. Like, they're not going to change their mind. But how long is it going to take them to back Amorim to the level that he has 15 players that can play his system? I'd say at the moment, he's got five definitive players that suit his system. So it could be a long, long time. And it could sink us as a football club. I agree with everything you're saying this morning, Jack says. But why the 4-0 prediction based on what? The result yesterday didn't surprise me at all. Look, if we want to self-reflect and blame each other, we need to grow up. I don't understand the people that are saying, why were you so confident you were going to beat Everton?

53:23I could have predicted 9-0. I'm just a fan predicting a score. It's got nothing to do with me. I'm not in the dressing room. I'm not making the subs. And I'm not responsible. But the reason I said 3-0 or 4-0 was because we beat them 4-0 last year and we were shit. So I think that if we can beat them 4-0 last year, why can't we beat them 4-0 this year? On top of that, we've been very good at home. On top of that, it's the start of a good run of games where we can solidify our top five race. So I think everything suggested that we would win that game. But stupidly, we didn't turn up. Amrim must disband his leadership team Because there's no leaders in that team Says Glenn Look, you know what?

54:04I'll give you a little bit of insight It's been described to me many times As the What was the term that was used? I can't remember the term If I could, I'd tell you But effectively it comes down to this There is a group of players at Man United That run that dressing room Rightly or wrongly there is Let's say it's the leadership team If Amirim disbands that leadership team, it'll lose the dressing room because Man United's dressing room is weak, easily led and inconsistent. And that's a reflection of the leadership team. So United are in a bit of a rock and a hard place here. Whoever the manager is, he has to kiss the arse of the leadership team.

54:45That leadership team has been the leadership team for a few years now as well. It's basically Ten Hag's. So if you don't remove it It will run you And Amrim is now beholden to that leadership team Because if he doesn't pick it He will lose

55:04Which is what I'm saying This is not just let's change the manager This is like a whole fucking rebuild again Well it's not a rebuild again We've never had a rebuild Amrim plays a part in this but it's sad I wasn't surprised by last night Like performances like that have been happening for years over different squads and managers. I don't know where we start to fix things, says Patrick. It's big, isn't it? Not the player's fault. It's the home fans, says Umper. He only wins playing counter-attack versus better clubs, says David. Mate, we did a video in the international break talking about how bad our football is this year.

55:40Counter-attacking, low possession, and it only works against teams that, you know, push forward. Arsenal. Brighton. Liverpool Sunderland you know the three teams that play high up we've beaten Forrest sit Spurs sit Everton sit can't break them down can't get results how can anyone blame Amarin when these players turn it on and off no manager can win with this shower of shits says Mr Saunders I agree what happened to Shaw last night he didn't try says Matt why is Luke Shaw playing games for Man United you know the international breaks are over now so Luke Shaw will give up It's Groundhog Day again.

56:18How can we break out of this cycle? Nothing seems to change, says Ginger. Reds, and we're dismantling our heritage for an unproven manager. This is because of the Glazers, says Kiel Robinson. I think from top to bottom, it's a joke. What is it that you think, despite of quality difference, Everton, Brentford, Grimsby players want it more than Man United players? Because they're privileged players, mate. Why does a guy get up in the morning at five o 'clock in the morning and work till eight o 'clock at night to feed and clothe his family and then does it again and again and again. And why does somebody wake up at 10 o 'clock in the morning, roll out of bed, their clothes are ironed for them, they go downstairs, the breakfast is made for them, you know, they laze around all day.

57:03It's privilege. We have created a privileged, you know, Carrington looks great, doesn't it? Oh, look at that. What has a brand new Carrington done for this lot?

57:17Nothing. Because they're a bunch of privileged players who have higher opinions than their ability. And we've had this for a long time. They're entitled. That's exactly what it is. They're entitled and they behave like entitled players. We lose the game yesterday and Bruno Fernandes comes out and justifies why he's playing in the midfield and why he's good at it. We win a game They're all over social medias Kissing each other's arse They're entitled players They're not They're not the right mentalities I think we missed Kunya yesterday But Can one player change it? Amrim can only work With what he has The Glazers and Ineos Need to provide him With the right tools And stop being stingy Much love marks His 72 needles Look I think With Amrim You've got 59 % of you Amrim in And 40 % of you Amrim out I think that's about right I think he needs more.

58:09He definitely needs more. But he's also making shocking decisions. And that's why I think it's on a knife edge at the moment. Amarin plays a direct style of football. We are first for winning second balls and eighth possession. We don't break teams down with the ball. We play 50-50s. And guess what? We sit 10th in the table, says Moad. What is it, done that one? Do you think the players are playing for the manager? Says no trophy, Abby. I think they're playing for themselves. And I think sometimes they play and sometimes they don't. I don't think they play for the fans. I don't think they play for the badge.

58:41I don't think they play for the manager. I think they play for themselves. And I was listening to Amram after the game yesterday and he knew within the first two minutes he was in trouble because the intensity wasn't there. And he spoke to them two minutes before. So he's done all the training. He's given them the team talk. And within two minutes, he knows the attitude's not right because they play for themselves, don't they? If you can't trust the players What makes you think you can trust this manager What has he done since he was appointed That thinks you make him trustworthy Says Sully These players can't Deal being favourites Mentally And Paul says So it can't be the manager because we've had a few really So the same people that wasted over a billion On 10 to 15 poor players Couldn't possibly have appointed three bad managers in a row But blame the new players okay I mean, Paul, I think you're having your own conversation there because I literally said, I don't want to change the manager because I don't want to change the manager, but he might not be the manager.

59:39I've already explained that. So I don't know what you're talking about there. Also, who's putting the blame on new players? I've not heard anybody putting the blame on new players. I've not heard the name Embermo, Cunha, Sesco, Lemens once. So, sorry, Paul. I'm all for reading out comments, but I don't really know where you're going with that one.

1:00:02Marlo says, you started on my first super chat, but then jumped over it. Would be realistic dream lineup next year, says Michael. And I hate the fact that I'm feeling like Amorim should be sacked. But at the same time, I hope he can turn it around. The club is messing with my head. The problem I have with sacking Amorim is that if you sack Amorim and bring a new manager in, I guarantee you Bruno and co. will turn up again for six months and they'll get away with it. I'm tired of the players getting away with it. You know what? I'd rather keep Amorim and sell Casemiro, Bruno, Shaw and Deleu, which he won't do anyway.

1:00:38so we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't but i'm tired of these players getting away with it i'm tired of i'm tired of a repackaged man united i'm tired of paper in the cracks i'm tired of a new manager coming in and and and the same players being used i'm tired of this leadership team um i'm tired of us not making the change that needs to happen and if we sack the manager the same players will be here again and like bruno needs to piss off to saudi casemiro needs to piss off. Luke Shaw needs to piss off. Deleu needs to go. And so do a few others. And it needs to be said. It needs to be said because what will happen is we'll beat Palace, Bruno will get a hat trick and everyone will go, oh, shut up with your Bruno agenda because that's flip-flops.

1:01:17The flip-flops in our fan base just go from one result to another. The consistent people, whether you're Amrim in, Amrim out, Amrim down, Glazers out, there are some of us that when we drew against Spurs, we didn't say, well, that's a good point. We wouldn't have got that point last year because that's not how life works. You can't compare this year to last year. You've got to live in the now. And I thought against Spurs, we were fucking lucky. We were shit. And I was worried after the Spurs game, I was worried because I sensed bad times were coming. And lo and behold, I didn't think it was going to happen against Everton, but it did.

1:01:52and you know if we beat palace 4-0 at the weekend and everybody plays well certain people will be going oh shut up you're negative this that and the other and i'll be saying what about everton what about brentford when's that coming again because it will come because that's what inconsistency is and the only way we're going to beat inconsistency is by ripping it out of the football club those people who are responsible for that and that goes from the top right the way down to the squad. Max says, Casemiro is our best player. Dump Mayno ASAP. And if you look at certain clubs that have gone through, you've done that one from Matteo as well.

1:02:28Thank you very much. There's still a lot more I need to go through, but that's an hour. So I'll be back with you at seven o 'clock. We've got a two o 'clock show as well. Rios says, we don't score against 10 men. Instead of blaming the attackers, you blame Bruno, the two tens, the striker, the wingbacks are all okay, but it's Bruno. I mean, again, do people not listen? Do people not listen? I literally said the attack, the wide and the midfield are not good enough. Rios, you're the problem. You know what? You're the problem. People like you are the problem as well, because you can't move past player FC.

1:03:04All you hear in an hour show is Bruno. Yet in an hour, everybody's had it. But all you here is Bruno because you've got your bloody Bruno shirt and your Bruno agenda. People like you are the problem because you cannot accept that Bruno's shit in the midfield because you fucking love Bruno. Oh, we scored a hat trick in the internationals. I don't care about international football. How many of our players played well in international football and played last night? I couldn't give a toss what they do for Portugal or England. I don't Give a toss. I care about what they do in the United shirt. Some people whack one out to the international.

1:03:40Oh, look, we're cooking on the international break. How many points did we get for that then? How many goals did we score against Everton because of that? Nothing. All I'm bothered about is Man United. And I couldn't give a shit about player FC or anything else because there's no player that can be defended from last night. The manager can't be defended. The club can't be defended. The only people I'd defend from last night is you, the fans, the people who actually do give a shit. Very frustrating to see a lack of intensity, started to feel we had some signs of improvement. Why are we conceding to Everton with 10 men, says Kieran?

1:04:12Because Bruno doesn't make the tackle, Joron misses the tackle, and Le Mendes makes a mistake. That's why we conceded. As De Ligt said, you can concede. I mean, somebody was saying it was Everton's only shot. And as De Ligt said, it's the Premier League. it only takes one shot sometimes. That's all it takes. I better go because I'm meant to be on with Terry and he'll be sat there twiddling his thumbs.

1:04:42Thanks everybody for watching. Absolutely fantastic show and I will speak to you. I'm on the seven o 'clock tonight because I'm doing Chelsea Barcelona. You can guarantee Rashford will score a hat-trick tonight. Have you ever noticed and Ganacho, whenever United do badly, the ex-players do well. But yeah, seven o 'clock show tonight. We're live again at two o 'clock and obviously if anything else happens, we'll be live as well. Take care, everyone. Fantastic show this morning. I think most of it's been, we've been very, very positive, very, not positive, but very, very good. And I don't necessarily think there is a side to have.

1:05:16I don't think you're wrong. Unless you're still like Rios kissing the arse of these players. I mean, Player FC can go in the fucking bin. Speak to you later. Take care.

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Mark Goldbridge is absolutely FUMING after another disastrous Manchester United performance. He brutally dissects the club's systemic failings, holding Ruben Amorim accountable for poor tactics, slamming the Glazers' ownership for crippling financial decisions and lack of vision, and calling out the underperforming players for their pathetic attitude and lack of fight. Goldbridge predicts more trouble ahead for Man Utd, warning that the Old Trafford crisis is only just beginning unless serious change happens from top to bottom. Get the latest Man Utd News on The United Stand

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