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1:28And I think we know that if you thought this week was bad, next week will be even worse. But we've got some breaking news coming in this morning around Elliot Anderson and Ivan Toney. And it's not necessarily good news around this. We're going to start off with Elliot Anderson. But before I do that, you can see a lovely Christmas jumper behind me. The Christmas tree could be up later today. If things go well, it could be appearing there. I think it is time. But we've only got 100 of these left. These limited edition knitted jumpers, there's only 100 left. There's no mediums left at all. So you've either got to go a little bit bigger with a large, which I think you'll be finer with.

2:05But if you want to get one, there's only 100 left now. We do ship them worldwide. Get your order in this morning. Links in the description and the live chat or go to United Stand Shopify. But there might be only 100 Christmas jumpers left, but Elliot Anderson might not be left at all. This news coming in this morning from Craig Hope, who was very good in the Daily Mail around the Sesco deal in the summer, you might remember. He says Manchester City are ready to make England midfielder Elliot Anderson their top target in 2026. The word inside Premier League rivals is that it will take a fee in excess of 80 million to sign him.

2:41City are said to be aware that both Liverpool and Man United will be interested in Anderson. and there is a feeling that a player who will likely be an England regular for several years is too good to pass by. He is their preference over Adam Wharton. And look, I want to get into the Amrim stuff from yesterday. I know Terry and Beth have spoken about it. I think one thing just to pop in your head that we'll talk about in a few minutes time. Amrim speaks in depth about the characteristics of the team still need to be worked on and we're a work in progress. I do, even as somebody that wants him to succeed, say, why after 12 months are you still talking about a team that lacks intensity?

3:15I think that reflects terribly on the manager unless there's a bigger reason here. And we'll talk about that in a moment. But look, to improve that intensity and to improve the characteristics of the side, you want to bring in players like Elliot Anderson. And I draw your attention to comments this week that have come out from David Ornstein, Laurie Whitwell, other journalists around Man United talking about Elliot Anderson being the priority for Manchester United. And people get very excited about that because they think if he's the priority, we're going to sign him. But the reality is that Manchester City will want him.

3:52Liverpool will want him and other clubs will want him. And are we not walking down the same old track that we did with Kenda and Ineos a year ago? Oh, we want Kenda. Doesn't mean we're going to get him. People had him in our best 11 in February this year because Ornstein said Man United won Kenda and they were putting him in the team for the summer and the team next season. And, oh, if we can just get through this season, we've got Kenda. I'm seeing people doing it with Elliot Anderson and I'm like, hold on a minute. Do you never learn about this football club? Elliot Anderson's the priority. What chance have we actually got of getting him?

4:24If we haven't got a clear run at him and he's not cheap, that's two big barriers for United straight away. Ineos don't want to pay over£70 million for anybody. And they don't want to go in a battle against anybody because they will lose. So already I'm looking at it and I'm going, it's going to be Belieber. It's going to be Belieber on the cheap because nobody else wants him. And that's what it will be. Because I don't... Elliot Anderson as a midfielder is absolutely... It's correct. Tick in the box. He should be a priority for Manchester United. You watch him play as a couple of weeks ago. You look at him week to week.

4:58You look at his stats. You look at the eye test, you look at him playing for England, you look at what he's doing for a club that's in the bottom half of the table. You know, I'm not saying, you know, we bought Roy Keane from Nottingham Forest. He's not Roy Keane. Forget about that. But he is potentially a Declan Rice like from West Ham. You know, he's potentially a Caicedo like from Brighton. He is a player that's definitely got to move a McAllister from Brighton. He's certainly a player that can go from a certain level to a top level. And you want that at Manchester United. But we've got to stop falling into this trap of, oh, we're going to buy a midfielder in the summer.

5:32It's going to be a top midfielder. And Elliot Anderson's the priority because that's just spin. That's just journalists doing what they do because the club are telling them to do it. And, you know, basically it's getting you to renew your season ticket. It's getting you to buy a bloody Man United kit for Christmas. It's playing on your emotions that, oh, it's, you know, let's ignore how bad the reality is because in the future we're going to do this. And are we going to do it? I'd sit here now and say the chances of us signing Elliot Anderson have got to be 25 % or lower. Nothing higher than that.

6:03But you read the headlines and everything, and everyone's sort of like, oh, it's a sure thing. He's a really good midfielder. He would massively improve our team. But it will come at a price, and there'll be competition. And I think it's, you know, I know that's what we need, but getting that done is going to be really, really, really difficult. And I think when it's only November still, and you've got Man City in there, I mean, imagine what it's going to be like come March, April, May, when the real negotiations take place. We're still four months off that and we know Man City are in there. We know Liverpool are in there.

6:36It could get better. It could get better for Forrest. It could get better for Anderson. It could get worse for United. And remember, the price will go up the more people are involved. So I think it's a really difficult... I mean, look, breaking news on a Saturday morning. I think that Elliot Anderson deal is really difficult. for Manchester United to do in any circumstance, even if we were in the top four, even if we had Champions League football, which is not guaranteed. And that's a really difficult deal to do. And people need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop falling for the spin articles about him being a priority.

7:10You know what? You might be walking down the street today and see somebody who's absolutely gorgeous and say, that's my priority. I want to marry them. What you might not realise is they find you very unattractive and they're already married and very happy. So your priority doesn't mean you're necessarily going to get it, does it? It really doesn't. So let me know your thoughts on that. Also, maybe not as significant, but certainly something for January before we talk about Amrim and his latest comments. It's just come in from Ben Jacobs, actually, that Ivan Toni, unlikely to leave Saudi in January.

7:47Initial but genuine inquiries from Premier League club sides, but Al-Alai, sporting director, doesn't want to loan or sell. while Tony remains settled in Saudi. So there was some talk of a, well, I think Man United need an experienced striker. We haven't got Sesco at the moment. There's some concern that that injury might be a little bit longer. I don't think it is. I think he'll be back early to mid-December. However, as we saw last week, even if we'd had Sesco against Everton, you'd like another striker to come on and maybe play with a two. We don't have any at the moment. And Sesco is very inexperienced.

8:22So looking at an experienced striker as ASAP would be preferable, but it is not going to be Ivan Toney by the looks of it. He's going to be staying in Saudi. So as I said to you yesterday morning, I sort of look at the January transfer window and go, we absolutely need one midfielder as a minimum and ideally an experienced striker. And I sort of look at it and go, I think we're already being set up for another Glazer Christmas where it's talking about summer holidays instead of actually doing something in the winter. and what's new about United and Ineos if we're doing the same things we've always done, which is neglecting a window that we absolutely need to utilise.

9:04Marlowe's our first super chat at the morning. He says, the problem with our squad is the chopping and changing. They never reach the level where the playing style decisions and chemistry becomes an instinct. Well, I think I will just stop what I'm saying there for a moment because there is some topical stuff to go through, Marlowe. I think you're right and wrong in the sense that there is consistency in that team. There's one player that plays at nearly every minute of every game for the last four years, and he's named Bruno Fernandes. I think it's very, I'm going to say this, I think it's very difficult to build rhythm, chemistry and, you know, strategic style patterns of play with a player like that in your team.

9:45I think it really is because I don't, I think Bruno Fernandes can be a fantastic player but I think he's an instinct player. I don't think he's a strategic player. I don't think, you know, you sometimes watch teams like Brighton and you can see what they're doing from the back. You can see Liverpool when they're at their best, they do that. Certainly Manchester City do it. Arsenal do it. Bayern Munich do it. These are really good teams to watch but it's very strategic what they do. It's, you know, you can see the patterns of play and it's almost telepathic when it works. People know what other players like and they know where other players are going to be.

10:25Obviously, it's not working for Liverpool at the moment, but it has done. And with Man United, we've never had that. And I just don't think Bruno Fernandes, if you drop him into a Man City side or a Bayern Munich side, I'm not saying he wouldn't do well, but I guarantee, you know, I think if Bruno Fernandes went to Bayern Munich and he did really well and people said, oh, you said he can't do it, I'd say look at him. He's gone somewhere and suddenly he's disciplined. It's a bit like Rashford at Barcelona and it's a bit like Ganacho at Chelsea. Have you noticed how Ganacho crosses and passes now?

10:57Have you noticed how Rashford does it as well? But at Man United, they wouldn't do it. I almost guarantee you if Bruno Fernandes went to Bayern Munich, he'd start playing disciplined football. But at Man United, they don't do it. And Bruno plays every minute of every game and he doesn't play. He's erratic. That's what I'm trying... He's good. I'm not digging Bruno out here he's a very good player he's arguably our best player but he is on you know you don't know what he's going to do every time he gets the ball he might hit a 60 yard pass that way he might play a simple 5 yard pass and that's why we don't have rhythm and pattern and that's why we haven't had a style of play for a decade because nobody plays with any fluidity consistency, rhythm or pattern it's vibes football isn't it it's moments football and how many years have we been saying that so I think you raise a good point We don't do that.

11:49And user says it's not the players. Mate, it's 100 % the players. 100 % the players because it's transcended five managers.

12:16casino app today. Moto Casino, the social casino board were prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit Moto.us for more details. Moto Casino, America's social casino. It's 100 % the players. Of course it's the players. They just don't respect what's going on at Man United. I know what you're saying. You're saying, well, if they go to another club and they are disciplined, how's it the players? Because Ganaccio's gone to Chelsea and basically been told you pass the fucking ball or your career's over because this is your last chance, pal. Rashford's gone to Barcelona and basically been told, you're in your last chance saloon.

12:49If you want to work and play for this team, you better play like everybody else. They've already got established patterns of play and you either, you know, what are you going to do? Carry on doing what you were doing at Man United. You won't be playing football. But at United, we've created this environment where you're allowed to be indisciplined in everything you do. You're allowed to not turn up for a match like Everton and start against Palace. I can't wait to see the team tomorrow because I guarantee you he's not going to make many changes and even if they win, I'm still going to say before the game, that is a fucking joke.

13:18Why is he not making changes? Why is it okay to... I mean, Bruno Fernandes and co should have been on social media on Tuesday offering refunds to everybody who went to that game. It was that bad. But there won't be any accountability because there never is. Before we talk about some of Arim's stuff though, let me know your thoughts on what we've spoken about so far. So Elliot Anderson to Manchester City is now a possibility. They want him. And look, honestly, who are you going to choose? Manchester City title contenders in the Champions League with one of the best managers in the game and has ever been or Manchester United with a manager that could be sacked at any moment a team that's indisciplined and isn't even in Europe unless he's a unless he's a childhood Man United fan I don't think we've got a cat in hell's chance really I don't think we can survive off Cunha and Embermo style transfers for long they love Man United because they grew up liking Man United I don't think Elliot Anderson did.

14:14So I don't think that's going to work. And it's not going to work all the time. What are we going to do? What are we going to do? Every player we want to look at, we're going to look at whether they had any pictures as kids with the United kit on. I mean, that seems to be our strategy at the moment. Potential Caicedo in Orozco, says Rajaf. Mate, if you want to do that, I'm sure somebody somewhere has done a video about Orozco being the next Caicedo. I'll say to you this in a very calm way. It's always great to sign exciting young players, but tell me the last young player that got developed at Manchester United.

14:47And I use Jude Bellingham. Jude Bellingham could have come to Manchester United. He went to Dortmund. He's now playing for Real Madrid. There's absolutely no way Jude Bellingham, if he'd signed for Man United at 17, would be the player he is now. No way. And that's what worries me about these players. I see people online going, oh, we bought another worldy teenager. He's going to be the next Caicedo. And I go, I really hope you're right, but look at what we've done over the last few years. And why are we buying these players when we're absolutely terrible at developing players? And it's such a toxic environment in that team will actually burn them out.

15:23Because I'm telling you now, you say Orozco, I say Dorgou. Dorgou, two years ago, was basically going to be one of the best left backs in the game. And anybody who knows anything about football knows I'm right. But people will go, oh, bollocks, he's not that good. I'm not talking about Dorgou, the Man United player. Two years ago, he was being spoken about as being one of the best up and coming left backs in world football. He's now at Man United and people ain't saying that, are they? So that's what I worry about when we start talking about these teenagers that we're buying. I'd rather we were buying I mean it's impossible but I'd rather buy Caicedo now than when we were trying to buy him because we wouldn't develop him there's no point buying amazing talent if you can't develop it and I don't think we can develop talent at the moment so it is exciting to buy them but who's going to develop them?

16:13who's going to nurture them? who's going to give them the minutes in the environment that's going to nurture them? I don't think we have that at the moment and I think that feeds into what Reuben Amrin was saying And there's a couple of new comments coming out about it. But I was listening to his press conference yesterday and I was sort of listening to it. And there was a couple of things that sort of jumped out to me where he spoke about how we need to improve the characteristics of the team. We should have had enough to beat 10 men. It's these characteristics we will try to change. and effectively saying, if you play for Manchester United, you must be ready if it's 7am.

16:53It's a privilege and a big responsibility. The time of the kickoff doesn't matter. It's the same for both teams. It's a way, it's talking about the 12 o 'clock kickoff against Palace, to be fair. But he says, our fans will be there. It's not an issue. We just need to do our job. If anyone has been doing these things right since last year, it's our supporters. Now it's our turn. He spoke about Monday night and said, I felt like we had more intensity in certain games and then we didn't have it on Monday. And I've got to say, look, Reuben Amrim has to sit in front of the press. That's his job. And, you know, I don't blame him for what I'm about to say.

17:25But I don't know about you, but even as somebody that wants him to do well, it's hard at the moment to think it will go well. but also I think I just feel so sorry for Amriem I don't you know I know there's a lot of people that want him out and I know there's people who want to criticize him the majority of us are actually with him and want him to do well but even I am listening to his press conferences I'm going this is a car crash like this is what is he what is he supposed to do what he can only what are you supposed to do when you've had a horrific first season you show a little bit of promise and then you have an Everton result like that.

18:06You can't spin a positive out of that. That's what I'm saying. It's almost like being the politician that has to stand in front of the cameras knowing that there is nothing good to say and you're going to get absolute rinsed and you've got to try and say something that in some way, shape or form shows hope when you know there's not really anything you can say because it's going to be full of holes. And basically what he's saying is we need to improve the characteristics. We need time. We need to bring intensity. You know, we're Manchester United, it's a privilege to wear the shirt and we've got to turn up whether it's 7am, 12pm or 8pm at night.

18:39But the problem is they didn't turn up on Monday, did they? And it's all right saying, you know, we need to improve the characteristics and I need more time. My only positive interpretation of that is that you need to sign a lot more players, which I do agree with, because if you think that you can pick the team from Monday again and expect them to turn up for the next 10 games and win your 10 games, well, you know, you're massively mistaken. And the problem he's got at the moment is, and, you know, it is right in a sense, is that he keeps saying the same things as he did a year ago. You know, it's going to take time to improve this.

19:20We're going to suffer. You know, we've got to get the intensity up. We've got to improve the characteristics of the team. But when you're fundamentally using the vast majority of the players that played in the Europa League final. Is it any surprise there is no change? I mean, I think at the core, you're still asking Amrim to polish a turd and he's being blamed for it. I do believe that. And people are going to go, oh, you just live up the arse of Amrim. I don't live up the arse of Amrim. I'm actually quite critical of him. And some people think I'm a subtle Amrim outer. I'm not. I'm just on the middle ground.

19:52I'm not massively saying he's the guy. And I'm certainly not Amrim out. But when I look at it, I go, he keeps talking about the characteristics of the team. He keeps talking about the intensity of the team. And he keeps talking about having time to improve those things. When in reality, I think what he's really saying is, I need new players. And I agree with that. You know, I look at that midfield and I go, yeah, you need new midfielders. I look at the attack and I go, yeah, you need an experienced striker. I look at the wingbacks and I go, yeah, you need that. And let's not forget, he might need a goalkeeper.

20:25I mean, I like Clemens, but how anybody can say he's definitely the guy is incredible after a month. Like, he looks decent. He's got my backing and we have to be patient and he will make mistakes. But what if he's not the guy? what if like Dorgu or Yoro he just starts to really struggle with the intensity and the pressure of it so who knows what positions he needs but he definitely needs a lot of players unfortunately he's got an ownership that's gonna deflect put it on him um I mean when the going gets tough the manager gets gone that's that's the strategy of the glazes when I think you can look at every single manager and say realistically it comes down to you know the right backing for the right manager and has every manager had that right backing as far back as Van Gaal.

21:12He said, look, I didn't get the players I wanted. And I think it's very, very clear that Amrim didn't get the players he wanted in the summer as well. I don't know why we won't have that conversation. It's very, very clear to me that Amrim didn't get the players he wanted. And I think it's because of the glazing of Sir Jim Radcliffe that people want to pretend that something new is happening, but the Glazers don't like spending in January. Are we going to spend in January? Well, I thought it was a new world under Ineos. So why aren't we spending in January? The Glazers were very bad at getting Jose or Oli or Van Gaal or Ten Hag's first choice.

21:48But Ineos aren't. But, well, they are. Like, Sesko was not, was not categorically Amrim's first choice and he didn't get a midfielder. And on top of that, he wanted an experienced striker and Sesko's not experienced. So we're not, Amram hasn't had what he's wanted. Let's be very clear. Dorgu wasn't the left back he wanted. I mean, to be fair, it was Mendes and that's very, very difficult, but he hasn't had what he's wanted. You know, I would say Kunia and Mbermo are probably what he wanted. Lemenz wasn't what he wanted. Sesko wasn't what he wanted and he didn't get a midfielder. So he hasn't got what he wanted.

22:27And I think when I look at that side, I do sometimes wonder when Amrim says you don't know about the difficulties I've had. I do wonder if a lot of it's to do with the profile of players that he wanted to bring in. because, I mean, I don't intend to, I might do a video about this at some point, but I genuinely think that there are sack fears around Amrim. I mean, there's two results tomorrow that put a load of pressure on Amrim. Losing to Palace and Liverpool winning at West Ham changes the whole dynamic of the media. At the moment, thankfully, it's all about slot and rightly so. And United have sort of been left alone.

23:06If Liverpool were doing okay, this week would have been a lot worse for Amrim. And if Liverpool win tomorrow and we lose, it's going to be horrific for Amrim. So I think that in some ways that Everton loss hasn't been as bad as it could be for the club and for the manager. It's been bad for us as fans, but I don't think it's been as bad as it could be. Two results tomorrow change everything. And we're on the cusp with that. But look, I do share the frustrations. Well, I do understand when people say he talks about characteristics, he talks about intensity, he's the manager. How is he still talking about this near to Christmas in his second season?

23:46How is he still in a situation where he's talking to the fans and the media about the players lacking intensity and essentially not doing what he wants them to do? That's the thing. I was listening to Terry's show last night, you know, bad sign. It's a bad sign when the manager is sat in an interview talking about the intensity of players not being there, the characteristics not being right, that will always reflect on the manager. It will. If you are a manager of an office and you've got a couple of workers that are abusive to staff and other customers, and they keep doing it, at some point people are going to go, well, why have you not done anything about that?

24:27I know it's their fault, but you're their manager and you manage them and they're impacting your results. So why have you not changed that? Now, if you say, well, it's the boss's son and daughter, I can't sack them. You know, people might have a bit of sympathy, but, and there might be mitigating circumstances for Amerim. But I think, I personally do think, I go back to Emery, Sean Dyche, David Moyes. There are managers, many managers that, you know, 12 months into their job are showing sometimes three months, sometimes three weeks into their job, are showing major improvement because the players react to them.

25:03I think the worrying thing about United, and I saw it under Ranić, is that when we change a manager now, we don't get a manager bounce. And we haven't had a manager bounce under Ranić and we haven't had a manager bounce under Amrim and we're 12 months in. That's a worry. You know, that's a worry. And the logical thing is that you need to change the players, but it's always cheaper to change the manager. But it's a massive worry. And, you know, as I said, I was listening to Terry's video last night and I thought, you know, this is a huge concern. Like it's a real concern. I have total empathy with the manager because I don't think he's not setting the team up right.

25:44I don't think he's not giving them the right instructions, but they're certainly not responding to it. I mean, Monday night was a big up yours to every Man United fan, Ruben Amirim, the board and anybody that cares about Man United. I don't think anybody said that. And I think if someone like Roy Keane said it on the overlap, it would go viral. But the reality is, and I'd say this in front of the dressing room Man United and maybe they'd try and beat me up or something. I'll take some security in. But I would say every single one of you may as well have walked out to Old Trafford and just gone like that to the cameras.

26:17of everybody, you know, and, you know, shown as a screen print of your wages because you basically went out and went up yours to everybody that cares about this football club. That performance was a big fuck you to every single Man United fan, to Ruben Amrim, to Sir Jim Radcliffe, to anybody that's emotionally attached to this football club. You basically walked out and went, nah, fuck this. And they did. They did. Nobody can tell me any different. Not one of those players even hit a six out of ten in a Man United shirt. A Man United shirt. You know what? I don't want to get sentimental, but you think about the greats that have worn that shirt, the Duncan Edwards, the George Best, the Bobby Charlton's, the Dennis Laws, the greats that have managed that club, the Samat Busby's, the Sir Alex Ferguson's, even players that are still around now.

27:04We mentioned one, Roy Keane, the David Beckham's, and then we look at that performance on a Monday night and you sort of go, it's not that they lost and they gave everything. They lost and they didn't turn up. And that does reflect on the manager. Of course it does. But is it the manager's fault? And I'm at that point now where I don't think it is. I mean, I saw what Oli Gunnar Solskjaer said about Ancelotti and obviously Ancelotti hasn't said it. It's third-hand information. But Oli's done this interview saying that something along the lines of that he spoke to Ancelotti about why he wouldn't take the Manchester United job.

27:42And he said something along the lines of, no, no, no, the pressure is too much. And, you know, I don't really think Ancelotti means the pressure is too much from the fans and the media. He's managed Real Madrid. He's managed AC Milan. He's managed PSG. He's managing Brazil. I think he's talking about a different type of pressure. I think he's talking about the pressure of trying to do your job with shit owners. I think he's talking about the pressure of not being able to implement your plans because you can't remove and buy players. He's managed by Munich as well. I saw people completely misinterpret what Solskjaer said about Ancelotti, about the pressure.

28:21It ain't pressure from the... So I saw one reply going, this is the problem. Our fans are our biggest problem at United. And I thought, shut up. The fans are the best thing about this football club because most of us are moaning because we know the standards. there ain't no way Ancelotti would say no to United because the pressure of the fans on social media or the media that's you know Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Brazil, PSG ain't gonna worry about that that comes with you know every manager knows you're gonna get shit from the fans if you do bad he's talking about the pressure of waking up in the morning and going I can't build the team I want because these people won't let me do it and these players aren't good enough That's what he's talking about.

29:04And it's amazing how people misinterpret that. One of the world's greatest managers, one of the greatest managers ever been, apparently wouldn't take our job because basically the pressure would sink him of not being able to do what he wants to do. And I think that's how I interpret it. there's a myth among our fans that if player A on the pitch is not playing well then player B on the bench who had all week to prove himself in training must be better and the manager is stubborn says K.A. Well I saw something this morning about Maynou and Napoli again Moto Casino America's social casino Welcome to Moto Casino where the excitement never ends with thousands of the hottest free to play social casino games fastest payouts and the best promotions in the industry no tricks or gimmicks owned and operated in the USA.

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30:30At six, I'd go with him on a Sunday morning for his Sunday morning team and just stand on the sides and watch football. You know, I love football at all level. That's why I do. That's football. And I sort of I look at it and I go, you know what? But it's sad where we're at at the moment because I look at United and I don't think it's got anything to do with what people think it is. In the sense that I don't know what's gone wrong at Man United. I don't recognise Man United. As I said in the preview on Thursday, if you've not seen it, I don't recognise this football club anyway. but tomorrow if I see Casemiro and Bruno in the midfield, I've watched football, like I said, at all levels all my life.

31:20I've played football and I've never, ever known a team that doesn't turn up get picked again, especially in the midfield. I don't care, you know, 40 years ago with my granddad's Sunday morning team or whether it's my school team or whether it's a Sir Alex Ferguson team or a Sean Dyche team, if you if your team doesn't turn up in a massive game and embarrasses you you don't pick it again no i i just i just don't i don't and somebody will come in and go well this happened in this league or you know whatever but i don't recognize that as a consumer of football i think we've all got patterns of play in the in the way that you know we all have our favorite formation we all have our favorite game we all have our you know distinct style of you know style of football that we want, our favourite type of goal.

32:10Some people want a worldie from outside the box. Some people like free kicks. Some people like an individual goal. Some people like a banger volley. Some people like a team goal. We're all unique in what we like about football. And I don't recognise in all the years I've been watching football, I don't recognise a team that does what it does on Monday and then gets picked again on the Sunday. And I have a fear that that's what I'm going to see tomorrow, especially when you've got Mainu and Agate, who are both internationals, both have good reputations, both have had a bad season. But Casemiro and Bruno were fucking awful on Monday.

32:53And I've got people going, well, Casemiro, Agate and Mainu will be worse. You're mad if you think you're picking them. And I'm like, that's football. That's literally football. You have four midfielders, and if two of them are shite, you give the other two a chance. Otherwise, why are you paying them? Why are they there? That's called management. That's called standards. That's called reacting to something. So basically, you know what? Formula One race at the weekend, your driver smashes it into a wall on purpose and you've got a backup driver who's a good backup driver. No, I'll trust you in the car again.

33:35You make the bloody change. Otherwise, what's the point? But I think we're almost indoctrinated into the fact that he won't do that. And that to me is, I think that's so wrong. I mean, we haven't had the team news yet, but the fact that so many people are going, you know, no way should Agathe and Meynou play tomorrow. He won't do that. And I'm like, absolutely, they should play. Because what normally happens is you give those two people a chance and they're starting the game and they grab it. And I'd rather give Agathe and Meynou the start. And if they fuck up, go, OK, right, we definitely need a midfield.

34:14But it'll be bloody Bruno and Casemiro. Of course it will. It won't be Kunia though. He is out. Now, I don't want to say I told you so because that's three words I don't like. Four words. But I did allude to this on the morning show in Manchester yesterday. I did say if Kunia got knocked out last Saturday, the concussion protocols are 10 days. So he can't play on Bay 8 against Palace. So Amram did confirm it at lunchtime. I didn't know that. I didn't have that information. It was just logical. So he's not playing tomorrow and I suspect that will be because of the concussion protocols. Apparently it was quite a severe head injury.

34:51There was talk of him being knocked out for a bit. I don't know whether that's true or rumour. However, he's clearly adhering to the concussion protocol. So he'll be back for the game at home to West Ham on Thursday, but he'll miss the Palace game. And that is a big miss. That is a big miss because you look at Monday night, obviously it's a big miss. And Kunja is one of those players at Wolves that really turns up. so you want players that are going to turn up and he's a good player however even if Kunia you know was only available for the bench it would have been a help and I think the big problem is with no Sesko and no Kunia you know Mason Mount can't play 90 minutes and you're very reliant on probably playing Ahmad out of position Xerxi again probably yeah and there's not then there's nothing on the bench so I think that's a problem tomorrow I mean I spoke to a Palace fan on I think they're coming on the fan forum actually tomorrow I spoke to a Palace fan in the studio on Thursday or in the office on Thursday and it's weird what rival fans do now he was like 3-1 I'm really confident we're gonna beat you and I was like you are playing Strasbourg tonight and you only get two days rest and he was like no we'll be fine so look I haven't done my prediction for the game I think it might be a draw if you want to know, but I think it's going to be very, very difficult.

36:11Really, really difficult. I wouldn't be surprised if we turn up on one. If it wasn't for a horse, we might have ended up with a slightly better owner. It is what I guess is what it is, I guess, says Callum. Thank you for your super chat, Callum. Kiel Robinson's in the house. He says, I wish him well, potentially Ancelotti at Everton situation, but I'm Amrim out. It's like a loving relationship. Only one partner wants a baby, says Kiel. There we go. Can you see Amrim losing his job this season and who could slot in temporarily or long term by the way i'm still not amring out but doubting him more says gamer look i always think while gareth southgate's available that's a very very dangerous person very dangerous person i feel like you know it's like being one of the little pigs and you know the big bad wolf is lurking around and you know you forget to lock your door um whilst that prat as a coach i don't know him as a person is out there i think that worries me it really does Amrim doesn't deserve any new players says Marvin his new signings has not hit the ground even if he gets the players he wants it's not guaranteed they will work well I disagree with you Marvin because I think that whilst I understand your point completely I look at it and go if you're gonna if you're a team if you're a counter-attacking team that can only play 4-3-3 and you bring in a manager that plays a totally different style of football with a totally different style of play and a totally different formation you can't just buy him four or five players that's not backing the manager so i understand you say i don't think he deserves more players because you don't think he's good enough but logically he does deserve players because they brought in somebody that could never work with the players they've got and they haven't completed the journey so i think he does deserve players yeah he definitely deserves midfielders because he's basically working with Ten Hag's shit midfield at the moment.

38:04I mean, that midfield was shit for Ten Hag as well. Eric says, which combination is... Sorry, I've just lost that. It's completely disappeared. I will come back to you, Eric.

38:24Which combination is worse, McFred or Bruno and Casemiro? we desperately need midfielders I can't keep watching this every week I got asked this the other day Eric and I think Bruno and Casimiro are better than McTominay and Fred because Fred was crap first touch and McTominay was a rubbish midfielder number 10 George Best Belfast this morning Mark reality is anyone united by are players no one else wants or they are long life United fans and are offered wages no one else will pay says George Best or they're really young and need developing and we can't develop players so you've probably nailed we've probably nailed the three patterns there we don't need to develop them in the United pressure cooker, just send them on loan like Chelsea and bring them back as we find gems.

39:02Start with Maynou. I like this, Kai. I was actually having this chat with Ricky on Thursday night. And I said, there is no point in buying all these young players and then thinking we're going to develop them. We either buy them afterwards, which is too expensive, or we buy them young and we get them out to clubs where they go and develop for two years. But the interesting thing is that's obviously not the plan because Kone's been here a year. OB's been here a year. Heaven's been here a year. And Lyon, we didn't ship him out straight away either. So our plan is crap. We buy these young players and then we sort of like go train with the under-18s, train with the under-21s.

39:42We obviously think we're going to develop them and we're not. You're right. You should get them out on loan to the Championship or to Europe or something like that and let them go and develop, which is exactly what Brighton did with Caicedo. I've done that one okay. Right, let me carry on because a couple of other bits from Amarim. Just on Semenyu, I'm telling you now, we ain't in for Semenyu at the moment. Like, we're not. We were never in for him. And it still keeps circulating like a shit that won't flush. It's a rubbish story. And essentially, I think Semenyu wants out of Bournemouth in January.

40:17So you use Man United.

40:22actually can I just scrub that and say if Man United signs Semenyu it would be hilariously thick because it's just not the position we need but it keeps floating around and I don't know a United fan that wants it to happen anyway it's just not the player we need at the moment also on Martinez Amrim said he's on the bench that's because he's ready we have to manage his playing time but if he's on the bench it's because he's ready to play I mean, I sometimes wonder about whether these managers just aren't very good at interviews. So if he's on the bench, he's ready, but we have to manage his playing time, but he's ready.

41:00He's not ready, is he? He's not ready if you've got to manage his playing time. What you're saying is he's not match fit. His body's ready, but he's not match fit. That's the truth. Some people will read that and go, well, why isn't he playing instead of Luke Shaw? Luke Shaw's shite, but he's not match fit. It's like Xerxes. He's not match fit. It's like Maynou. You know, these players aren't match fit. Some of them aren't match fit because they're coming back from injury and some of them aren't match fit because you don't play them. Martinez is not ready to start games because he needs match sharpness.

41:32But we've got to start bloody getting in that. And the problem is every game is a bloody cup final at the moment. So I think he's scared to put Martinez in. but like again I'm sort of stuck with it like if Martinez obviously I know he's not going to be match fit but how does he get match fitness without playing? Luke Shaw was bloody awful against Everton start Martinez tomorrow and give him like an hour get that match fitness into him like it's the only way people say oh yeah but he might make a mistake but where's the we've got no crappy Europa League game or Carabao Cup to get him You only get match fitness by playing.

42:12And I know every game's a cup final, but what are you going to do? Just stick him on the bench for the rest of the season because you can't afford to give him, you know, we've got to get him involved, really. He also said, we have to win every game like last year. Sorry, sorry. It's the same thing. We had to win every game all the time last year and we took criticism because we're not winning. There are no excuses. If I look at the game, we should have more points. We lost control. We should have more points. And that is disappointing. I saw something today and if I find it, I'm going to...

43:13download the moto casino app today say this uh let me i will i will find it it was it was really really interesting and uh yeah okay so basically manchester united in the first i mean it's a strange stat because obviously every game's 90 minutes but if you take the points we would have had if we'd only played first halves this season we'd be in third place so our first half performances if that was what you got points for we'd be third our second half performances if that's what you get points for we'd be 18th and their end of the lesson so you know amrim i'm sure because we're a very data-driven club knows this, but the question has to be why.

44:04Why are we third in the league for the first 45 minutes and 18th in the league for the second half? So basically we're a title contender in the first half and we're a relegation contender in the second half, but we're not in Europe, everybody. Oh, somebody call Ainsley Harriot because we're cooking in the second half when we've got only one game a week. What the hell is that about? Why the hell are we a relegation team in the second half, but we're a good team in the first half. It's inconsistent TFC, says Wizard, but it's also unforgivable. We're not in Europe. I mean, when you think about it across a season where you do half decent in the Carabao Cup, FA Cup and Europe, that's another 20 games.

44:49That's an increase of a third on what we're going to play. And yet we can't play well in the second half. What's that all about? And it can't be fitness. So it's got to be mentality. It's like Switch FC, isn't it? I mean, honestly, I'm tired of pointing the finger at players, but bloody hell. What does that say about you as a player? If in the first half you're decent and then the second half you're total shit, it says you are inconsistent. It says you are unreliable. It says you can't be trusted and it says you shouldn't be at Man United. It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. And, you know, I don't think Amrin sat there at half time saying, get the celebrations out.

45:33Let's all have a beer. Because that would be a reason why you'd be shitting the second half. You're a bit tipsy and you've had a bit too much to eat. I mean, that's not happening, is it? I guarantee you the half time talk is the same as the first. But it's almost like, you know, the first half is eating your lovely roast dinner on a Sunday lunchtime. And the second half is, oh, asleep afterwards. It's almost like the first half. Oh, I'm loving this. Then second half, oh God, I'm full up now. You know, it's mad. It's mad. Also, I think, I've said this before, I think the inability to rotate hurts you because what happens in the second half, you have to make subs.

46:11Everybody does. And our subs come on and the levels drop because they're not match fit. So if you bring someone like Xerxe on, he's not match fit. It's a drop, isn't it? Because you're playing against players that are match fit. But the rotation of our squad's terrible because Brighton aren't in Europe, Bournemouth aren't in Europe, but they make subs and they still do well. And that's because their manager has rotated the squad and kept everybody sharp. We haven't kept our players sharp one game a week and we've just not been able to do it, which is strange. Amrim's failure to sell Bruno and buy two midfielders may sink in.

46:46We could get Gallagher and Belaber. The fans would probably be more patient as well, says Jason. It can't change the pass, but I don't disagree. My problem when we discussed whether or not Kunja and Mbemo have been good signings is that even Mbemo looked much better in his former team. Well, you know, somebody said to me yesterday in relation to Kunja, has he been a good signing? We all like him, but he's actually been out quite a lot, hasn't he? I'm hammering him in, but if he doesn't change up the team tomorrow, as you say, he's essentially sacking himself and none of us can defend that. It's a sound dog.

47:14I think tomorrow's results and tomorrow's team. I think we're in a bit of a false sense of security at the moment. I don't think people realise what happens tomorrow if we don't get a result. I think tomorrow is a line in the sand game and he needs to get something out of it. And he needs to send a message as well. Because I think even if he wins tomorrow with the team from Monday, people won't trust. They'll just go, oh, here they go. They've turned up again. I think he needs to get a performance tomorrow with a team that gives us something to go, okay, this is it. I think it's a huge game. I think behind the scenes, they'll be looking for a new manager, says Rory.

47:51if he makes it to summer, it's sack or extend his contract. Very, very true. Thanks very much. Okay. Well, thanks everyone for watching today. Really, really appreciate it. The football's not that good today, so I'm not actually even thinking about doing any watch-alongs, but tomorrow's a massive day, as we know, and United's game is midday. Midday. So we're live for Countdown to Kickoff at like 10. The 10 o 'clock show is Countdown to Kickoff. Weird, weird kickoff tomorrow. But we have got an evening show for you as well, and if anything else happens, we will go live. So thank you everybody for watching as always.

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