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The United Stand

4 Dec 2025 · 42m · 15 chapters

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262: Shocking! Man United 1-1 West Ham Goldbridge Reaction

In short

Mark Goldbridge’s United Stands reaction to Manchester United’s 1-1 draw vs West Ham, calling it “shocking” and criticizing Ruben Amorim’s tactics and substitutions, plus the club’s lack of progress/identity and failure to secure European football.

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No guests are interviewed in the transcript; it’s a solo reaction host with fan comments read aloud.

Key claims

United are in “freefall,” playing “crap” long-ball/long-throw football (“Stoke FC”), dropping points at home (Everton and West Ham), and relying on luck/set pieces. Amorim’s in-game management is blamed—especially taking off attackers (including Cunha) while defending a 1-0 lead, “inviting” West Ham pressure. The midfield setup (Bruno as midfielder, Casemiro) is said to force long ball and drag players down.

Notable examples

Palace win via set pieces/Thursday fatigue; West Ham goal from a corner with poor marking; multiple long throws; upcoming Wolves/Bournemouth/Villa/Newcastle fixtures. Player ratings highlight De Ligt/Amad/Masraoui/Shaw/Casemiro/Bruno/Deleu, with Deleu man of the match.

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Chapters

0:30

Match Reaction: United vs. West Ham

Analyzing the disappointing draw between Manchester United and West Ham.

“If modern life feels a little loud, you're not alone.”
1:36

Match Reaction: United vs. West Ham

Analyzing the disappointing draw between Manchester United and West Ham.

“That was not good from Ruben Amarim or Manchester United.”
4:04

Managerial Decisions and Team Structure

Discussing the managerial decisions and the structural issues within Manchester United.

“I don't think you need to be, get the manager out.”
6:43

Performance Analysis and Future Outlook

Evaluating player performances and the future challenges facing the team.

“He decides to go, let's take a couple of attackers off and go defensive.”
14:39

Frustrations with Manchester United's Performance

Discussion on the poor performance and tactics of Manchester United in recent matches.

“Like, you look at that performance today, and I'm trying to remember.”
22:38

Concerns for the Future of the Team

Analyzing the long-term implications of current team decisions and management.

“What has happened to that football club?”
28:00

Short-Term Selection and Club Direction

Discussion about the short-term strategies in player selection and their impact on the team's future.

“Unfortunately, you've got short-term players that people don't even trust, bad performances and bad results.”
29:00

Referee Decisions and Game Dynamics

Analysis of the referee's performance and its implications on the game outcome.

“He was the best player on the pitch, but he should have been sent off.”
30:40

Fan Reactions to Manager's Performance

Fans express their dissatisfaction with the manager's tactics and decision-making.

“The worst thing about that goal from West Ham is that every corner they've taken was shit and then the one that was decent.”
33:00

Upcoming Challenges and Team Performance

Discussion on the upcoming matches and the team's current form in relation to those challenges.

“but what has he done to show us he deserves time?”
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34:20

Player Performances and Ratings

Detailed player ratings and evaluations based on their performances in the match.

“And you're looking at a team with attacking options.”
34:40

Player Performances and Ratings

Detailed player ratings and evaluations based on their performances in the match.

“Mark, I'm not one for picking on players, but Bruno needs to be rested.”
38:03

Long-Term Issues and Player Development

Discussion on long-term player performance issues and strategies for improvement.

“And, you know, he did so well, so well to try and stop that goal.”
42:00

Analyzing Kunja's Role

Discussing the challenges faced by Kunja in the game and his need for better service.

“At least with Mbamo, he likes the ball over the top.”
44:34

Post-Match Reactions and Reflections

Sharing thoughts on the match outcome and player performances.

“We're not spamming Amrim out because then everyone will think, oh, I should have kept him out.”
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1:24Mirror of all resorts, Wellness for real life. Learn more at miravalresorts.com. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. Manchester United won, West Ham won. Shocking is the word. Electric ELFC. That was not good from Ruben Amarim or Manchester United. And I think there needs to be a serious assessment of what is progress at this football club. In the international break, we had these 10 fixtures where people were talking minimum 22 points, potentially 26 points. Well, we've already dropped four in the first three. At this rate, we'll do well to get 15 out of 30. It is shocking.

2:04It is unacceptable. We've taken one point from Everton and West Ham at home. We're going to have another bloody year with the midweek off. We're not going to be in bloody Europe next year. This form is shocking. It literally is electric ELFC. It's not good enough. And those substitutions, look, I don't like I told you so. I don't like it. But there needs to be a conversation about the gear shifting of some of our fans. You know, first off against Palace, we were absolutely crap. We get a couple of set pieces and everyone's going, oh, you know, stop being so negative. Stop being so negative. And I said after the game, the only reason we beat Palace is because they played on Thursday night and they were dead on their feet.

2:48Even Amrim admitted it. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. You know, a few days before that, we've been played off the part by fucking Everton at Old Trafford, but we beat Palace because they're tired. We're back. And then against West Ham, we put in another shit performance. The reality is we are what we are. We're crap. I look at Verrarder. I look at Wilcox. I look at Sir Jim Radcliffe and I say, change the bloody record of positivity because I don't see any bloody progress. We're crap. We're playing really crap. The last good game we played was Brighton. And that's because Brighton let you play. Forest, we were shit.

3:23Spurs, we were shit. Everton, we were shit. Palace, we were shit. And tonight we were shit. We're playing really bad. Really bad. We've taken four points from nine and we want to be in the top five. We're eighth again. We're eighth again. And you know what? You know what? It's almost like we're living in the bubble. We're living in a bloody bubble. Fairy Liquid FC, that's bloody West Ham blowing bubbles and we're living in the bubble. We are, we're living in a bubble. We have awful results like this. But we'll beat Wolves and everyone will get positive again. And I'm confused about what Manchester United used to be and what it's meant to be now because it ain't this.

4:04I don't think Amrim can make this work. I'm not Amrim out. I don't think you need to be, get the manager out. I'm talking about the structure of the club. I think it's too simple to say sack the manager. I don't think we have an identity. I looked at Barada and Wilcox at the end of the game and they're not Man United people. They're not. They're just a couple of prats. They're not Man United people. I look at them and I don't think they know what they're doing. I want to see Nicky Butt and Roy Keane. I don't want to see Wilcox and Barada. They've got a bloody clue. They don't look bothered. They just look like a couple of rabbits in their headlights.

4:39And, you know, you can sack the manager if you want to. What I will say about the manager is he ain't turning this ship around. He's not turning it around. Like I'm telling you now, performance-wise, he's not turning it around. We're never seeing good football. They're not capable of it. Embermo has already caught the Bruno bug. Comes in as a good player, drops down to their level. Embermo's already caught it. It took him three months to go from a consistent performer for Brentford to a Man United player. It happens to all of them. I'm not even blaming him. Every player that we buy that's decent gets dragged down to the level of what we see week in, week out.

5:21It's shocking. It really, really is. But look, let me talk about the game very, very quickly, and then we'll delve into everything else. This club is in freefall, by the way. The way it's being run, the people at the top, the focus on a new stadium and not a new team. We're in free fall. We need European football and we couldn't be any further away from it. We couldn't be any further away from it. And don't talk to me about Maynou. I don't know who that is. Who is Maynou? Who is Kobi Maynou? Who is it? I don't know. Does he play for Man United? But you know what? I want to talk about that game because so many people live up the arse of coaches.

5:58And over the years, we've seen Van Haal make stupid mistakes. We've seen Oli make stupid mistakes. Ten Hag made stupid mistakes. and Amrim did it tonight. Like, as soon as I saw him take Kunia and Zerksev, I was like, there's 15 minutes to go. There's 15 minutes to go and we're only 1-0 up. If this Premier League has taught us anything, it is that one goal is not enough. It doesn't matter whether you're Man City. Look at the Man City. They were 5-1 up against Fulham. One goal is never enough. And for some reason, for a team that's only kept one clean sheet this season, Ruben Amram at 1-0, when we're not playing well, at 1-0 against West Ham, where we're in control of the game, West Ham aren't attacking.

6:43He decides to go, let's take a couple of attackers off and go defensive. So that if they score, we will never score again. Because we were never going to score with Bruno Mountain and Bermot and Agartin. We were never scoring again. We never looked like scoring again. I know Bruno had a couple of half chances, but we were never looking like scoring and again. I can't understand why he took Xerxes and Kunyar off. Unless they had injuries, I thought that was absolutely incredible. Because what it basically said to Nuno was, I'm now going to defend and you can attack. And I'm thinking, if I'm Nuno, I'm going, I've not been attacking all game.

7:23And you're basically saying attack me. I never understand this. And look, I've seen other managers do it, but they were not attacking us at all. We take off two attackers to defend, they attack and they score. And I'm like, our best form of attack in that game was to score the second goal, not defend the first goal. And also at Anfield, when we were holding on, it was Cunha and his ability to hold onto the ball, run into the corner, buy us free kicks, buyers minutes. Cunha's the perfect player when you've got a one goal lead with 10 minutes to go to knock the ball into his feet. He'll win free kicks.

8:04He'll run it into the corner. And he hasn't played the last two games because he's had a headache. He's not coming back from a calf strain. He's been doing the concussion protocol. He's match fit. So we take Cunha off, who's match fit. And we take Xerxes off. Oh, look, Xerxes had a few minutes. I understand that. But But those substitutions basically invited West Ham back into the game. And you sort of like go, that's naive, mate. That's a misinterpretation of what this league is. Everybody could see that. I could see it in the Watchalong live chat. I said it on the Watchalong. I said, I don't like that substitution.

8:43I don't like those substitutions at all. We're basically inviting the pressure against the team that hasn't really had any pressure. and if they get a goal, we don't look like we've got a goal. And lo and behold, they didn't even get their goal in stoppage time, did they? So I think it's really concerning because we're playing really bad football. We're not winning games and we're reliant on a little bit of luck. I mean, the goals against Palace were set pieces. The low goal was a little bit lucky. We're not creating lots of chances. and were always conceding goals as well. So I'm sort of like, I mean, to be fair as well, the goal they scored, you can't argue with it.

9:30It was a brilliant clearance off the line by Masraoui. I mean, I don't know who's marking who. I don't know who's marking anybody on that corner. It was abysmal. But look, I think, look, the bigger picture that a lot of people are talking about is where we go from here. Well, we go to Wolves, who've only scored seven goals all season and have only got two points. So hopefully we go to Wolves and we win. But the concerning thing is we then got Bournemouth at home. We're a better team than West Ham. They're a better team than... I mean, I worry after Wolves because with all due respect to West Ham, I mean, Paquette is out.

10:07They're in the bottom three. Not anymore. Everton. Everton, West Ham don't have an abundance of talent. They've got two or three good players And that's it Bournemouth have got more better players Than West Ham and Everton And Villa have got more better players than Bournemouth And Newcastle have got more better players than Villa So after Wolves I think we've got three games Where I don't think we'll win three in a row And that's the problem When you drop in the points to West Ham and Everton I was thinking Well we might draw against Villa We might draw against Newcastle But if we beat Bournemouth We beat West Ham we beat Wolves, we beat Everton, we've got a little bit of money in the bank.

10:47We haven't got a bit of money in the bank. We needed the win. You can't take one point from Everton and West Amatone, basically. That's shocking. That is absolutely shocking. And I think over, look, I think Arsenal have got it right. I was speaking to, well, I said it on That's Football. I said, look, you know, Arsenal against Chelsea, 10 men, most of the game, you draw the game, you're probably a little bit disappointed. And you draw and people say, Arsenal drew against 10 men. But you look at a 38-game season and you go, you're six points clear at the top. You've been to Stamford Bridge. You didn't get beat.

11:22You've been to Old Trafford. You've won. You've been to Anfield. You've lost. But you're six points clear and you've been to a lot of places. It's a 38-game season. And what worries me is a few weeks ago, people were saying, wow, we are very much in touching distance of the top four and we've played a lot of difficult games. And I was like, yeah, we have. But we've now taken one point from six against Everton and West Ham at home. So all the supposed good work that we've done, we've fucked it up, which is typical of United and the light switch FC that we are. But the big problem, the big, big problem we've got is that we're playing shit football.

12:00You know, shit football. We're being disappointed on a weekly basis, you know, I'm on a self-ban for predicting results now. And I'm glad I'm on it. I feel better for it because you've banned me because I said Everton would be an easy win. And you've said you're not allowed to predict games anymore. And I'm comfortable doing that because I can't get the blame. And also, I don't have any expectation because we're playing so badly at the moment. And in that West Ham game, I was like, as long as we win three points, at some point, maybe the club will buy him the players that he wants and we'll play better football.

12:40That's sort of where I am now. He is not going to get a tune out of those players. He's ignoring Mainu. Agate is clearly messed up. You know, he's not there, is he? Bruno's out of position. Casemiro is, you know, coming towards the end of his career. You know, Deleuze is not really a bloody left wing back, is he? Let's be honest. It's a mess. The whole team is a mess. I mean, I'm looking at the goal here for West Ham.

13:11I don't know. Luke Shaw goes with somebody else. I mean, nobody's even marking the guy. He wasn't actually being marked. He stood on the edge of the six yard box and nobody actually marked him. I thought somebody had left him. He was actually just unmarked the whole time.

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14:49the first 25 minutes all you've got is long ball then for 20 minutes we start playing short ball and we looked okay then in the second half we sort of fused the two and what we did by fusing the two is confuse everybody I don't know what we are doing what are we doing in training all week because for 20 minutes we're in a long ball then we're playing short passes you've got Deleu doing long fucking throws to West Ham players as well, which are, you know, I don't know why some of you don't have a problem with Deleuhe chucking the ball from both sides of the pitch. It doesn't fucking work. It worked once.

15:28He's done about a million long throws. They are, it's boring. It's shit. It's embarrassing. We're playing like Stoke and we're getting results like Stoke and we're Manchester United, basically. That's what's happening. And you, you know, you can put a different label on it, but that's probably as disappointed as I am and as confused as I am. I think you always want to label something. I think we're playing like Stoke under Pulis and we're getting shit results. Well, Man United shouldn't be playing like Stoke and they shouldn't be taking one point from Everton and West Ham at home. So something's got to change.

16:06Something's got to change really, really quickly. Now I know what I would change. I would change my fucking midfield so I can get the ball through the midfield into the feet of Kunia. I mean, there's nothing more disappointing in the world of football than buying a player like Kunia and then not playing the ball into his feet. I mean, that is absolutely vomit inducing. But he's got to change the way he's playing. This Bruno Casemiro midfield doesn't actually work. It forces us to hit long ball. And the reason we hit long ball, by the way, I saw it in the first half. I don't think it's even because we don't necessarily want to play long ball, what happens is the back three get the ball.

16:45The midfield is overloaded because we're playing a back three instead of a midfield three. So the ball's in the back three. The midfield's overloaded with West Ham players. Casemiro and Bruno, well, Bruno's not a midfielder and Casemiro's too slow. So they don't move to create space. The attacker goes to the ball. You pass it sideways. The attacker goes there. And eventually you go, I can't play through the midfield because they're swamped. I'll hit it long. And that's what we do. Would you sack Amrim? Mate, we've drawn a game, having won a game. That's not on the agenda. That is not on the agenda.

17:24But the football is crap. The results are crap. I actually look at that Palace game and say, at least we got three points there because that might have been a draw. So at least we got three points against Palace. But, you know, you sort of look at the Wolves game and go, I mean, somebody said it in the watch along. We're in trouble when the AFCON happens because Villa and Newcastle are better than us and we won't have Ahmad Masraoui and Embermo.

18:02And we just haven't got many attackers. Like Mason Mount is basically injury prone. We've got Cunha, we've got Zergsy, we've got Sesko, and that's it when Ahmad and Embermo go. And we've got to play Villa and Newcastle and we're not playing well. That's the big thing. You might give yourself a chance against Newcastle and Villa if you are playing well, but we don't play good football. I think I worry where we might be on New Year's Eve. You know, I do. I worry where we might be on New Year's Eve now because we're dropping too many silly points. And respect to West Ham, they deserve the point. And respect to Everton, they deserve to beat us.

18:41But we're dropping points that a midfield, a mid-table, we're behaving like a mid-table team and we can't be a mid-table team. But you know what? You know the people who shout, I'm out, this, that and the other. I ain't got a problem with it I haven't got a problem with it The football's not very good He's making bad decisions I don't know how Manu's not getting a minute In a game like this by the way But I think it's stubbornness Because he's being asked by it for the fans and the media So I think it's actually become stubborn now But if I was Sir Jim Radcliffe And I was looking at this situation And Sir Jim Radcliffe is not intelligent When it comes to football But if I was looking at this Even though I'd appointed Amrim I'd be saying and I'd probably have to have a chat with him, I'd be saying, I've got two major problems here.

19:27One, we absolutely cannot not be in Europe next season. And two, you don't look like a team that's going to get anywhere near it. So I don't want to sack you, but how are you going to change this problem for me? Because I have to be in Europe next year and you don't look like being anywhere near it. And if we get to the end of this season and you're not in Europe for the second year in a row, I'm a fucking idiot if I keep you because this is Manchester United. I can't keep a manager that hasn't qualified for Europe two years in a row. I can't do it. That's ridiculous. But the problem is if you do sack him, and we're not at that point yet, but if you do sack him, who do you bring in?

20:12Like, who do you bring in? Southgate? I mean, like, what do you do? and how does it get any better? I mean, there are some players that I'm not going to name that irritate the shit out of me and they're not going anywhere and they irritate me because, you know, it's always so self-centered. They're self-centered players. It's all about personal glory and can I get in the England team and can I get in the, you know, I've let one of them out there, which I didn't want to do, but they're self-centered players. They're not about the team. There's no identity in that team. It's not about Manchester United.

20:47It's not. Anyway, let me catch up on some of yours and then we'll do the player rating. So Kazumi says, I said at the start of the game, no, Mainu is bad. Driving Hoyland out with this attack is criminal, says Montesor. I mean, you know what? I was never going to mention that. So I'll give you a shout out. But Rasmus was willing to stay and fight for his place and United removed him. I mean was that just financial? I cannot understand considering Amrim liked Rasmus I can't understand how Amrim would say get rid of him No manager is going to get rid of a backup striker when he hasn't got a backup striker So was that the club saying you know we need to get rid of somebody's wages?

21:27It just didn't make any sense Jack says instead of spending in January on average players we think will improve us but won't use the money to pay off and replace Amrim one year in and playing awful says Jack Look, results like tonight remind me of Brentford and Everton, where I said he's on the pathway to the sack. It's just how long. After Brentford, I said he's on the pathway to the sack. After Everton, I said I don't think he's going to make it through the next 18 months. After tonight, it's not a loss, it's a draw. So I would say this is why I don't think he's going to get through the next 18 months, because I don't think he is.

22:02Like, I look at Aston Villa under Emery. In a very short period of time, they were playing good football and they were winning. I look at Sean Dyche at Forest. In a very short period of time, they're playing his way and they're winning. So I look at Man United and we're playing shit football. We're using a crap player to launch long throw-ins into the box. I cannot overstate how bad that looks to an institution like Manchester United. like Real Madrid and Barcelona and Bayern Munich would watch Man United and go, why are they launching long throw-ins into the box? What has happened to that football club?

22:43Now, if you're doing that, but all around it, you're playing good football and you're winning 4-0, you'd put up with it. But that's a big part of our game, to launch rocket launcher throws into the box and hope it flicks in. This is not acceptable. I'm sorry, I might be totally on my own here. But tonight I am christening Manchester United Stoke FC and I'm saying, who in our fan base is happy with this? Who in our board is happy with this? I see Deleu with the towel and I cry inside. I'm like, we are playing abysmal football and we are basically every opportunity we can getting a guy that's not good enough to start to launch a throw in into the box.

23:27And the hilarious thing is we didn't even have anybody that was capable of getting on the end of it because we didn't have anybody good in the air in the attack today. Madness. And that's the tactics that we're watching as fans. We've had a bad 10 years. We've had some bad times, but I don't think it's ever been this bad in relation to style of football. You know, you can criticise Ten Hag, you can criticise Oli and his counter-attacking football, Mourinho and his defensive style, Van Haal and his madness. But I don't think we've ever seen such shit football in the last 10 years. It is long ball.

24:04It is long throw-ins. It is set-piece FC. It is abysmal. And performance doesn't matter if it's Crystal Palace because you've won and everybody sweeps it under the carpet because winning is all that matters. But if you're not going to win games, you're going to get called out. And I don't know who can defend this style of football. It's abysmal. I don't need to swear. I don't need to rant. It's like watching Stoke. And I'm very proud of what Manchester United is. I'm very proud of the videos my granddad showed me from the 60s and the 70s and the early 80s. And I'm very proud of what I've watched from the late 80s to about 10 years ago.

24:43We are an institution. We have a style of play. We should not be drifting away from it. Do you think Barcelona are going to abandon their style of play under a new manager to chuck long throw-ins into the box. Do you think Bayern Munich are going to abandon what they're all about to hit long balls and long throw-ins? Why have we done this? Why have we done this? Should have bought a midfielder instead of Kunja, says Keegan. No, we should utilise Kunja for what he is. Kunja's no good birdwatching. There's no point watching the bloody ball fly over his head into his feet. But we haven't got midfielders to do that.

25:16Kunja's a waste of space if you're not going to use him properly. Anyone who understands what Amri is doing is probably insane even against Palace the sun on Henderson's face Amrim reminds me of Van Gaal I hate that I'm seeing the club dying says Pelimo I've got to get into your comments before we do player ratings terrible from Amrim taking Xerxi off his six foot plus and was helping his defense set plays well it was an amateur change says LJ Agarte looks like he's got out to play soccer says Yusuf I mean Agarte's in this position now where every time he comes on we're conceding goals Pengus says whether players aren't good enough or are fact remains that they are professionals and have a job to do beating Liverpool Chelsea Palace then dropping points to relegation fodder shows this club and team lack directions says Pengus 3-4-3 and Amrim's holding us back and you talk long throws says Zona well it's part of his tactics mate you know you're slagging off 3-4-3 and Amrim holding us back and you've literally just mentioned something that's part of the thing you're criticising Mojo's in the house he says Mark tactics aside I don't see any player who's improved Even Kunja and Mbemo are getting dragged down in standards.

26:21We're no better than we were last season. And you know what, Mojo? That is like an echo because the same thing happened with Ten Hag. When it started to go wrong, people were saying, who's he actually improved? We're saying it about Amrim now. I don't think that's even a manager thing. I think that's a culture thing. I think it's impossible to improve players at this football club because it's happened with Ten Hag. It's happened with other managers. And yet the Ineos strategy is to buy teenagers. We are the worst club to buy, you know, it's like Ronald McDonald saying he's going to breed cows to show them to win rosettes.

26:58You're not. You're going to put them in a bloody burger, mate. Be honest. I'm not amring him out. I'm indifferent. We are craps, says that boy. BJ says, be honest, you know he's not the right man. Mate, I don't believe sacking a manager will improve the situation. and we've drawn a game, we've not lost it. But as I've said to you, and I said it after the Everton game, and I'll say it again tonight, he won't be here in 18 months. He won't be here in 18 months unless something drastic changes because if he's going to keep relying on these players, and look, you know, look, look, look, this needs to be said as well, right?

27:34Yoro gets dropped for giving up a penalty against Palace, right? He's dropped, ceremoniously dropped. Dorgou has been dropped and publicly criticised. Maynou can't get on the team, right? So Maynou, Yorou, Dorgou, right? Whatever you think about them, they all have an average age of 20. Consistently not part of my plans, right? Deleu, Shaw, Casemiro, Bruno, all experienced players who've sacked multiple managers, playing every opportunity he can. Aaron can do what he bloody well likes but what message does that send I am going to stick with experienced players that have sacked multiple managers and don't even play that well and I'm gonna neglect young players that could be part of our future so we don't even know what the plan is because the plan is very short term so basically you've got this weird cocktail of short-term selections on players that have got no future, bad football and bad results.

28:39That is a cocktail for a sacking, mate. Unfortunately, you've got short-term players that people don't even trust, bad performances and bad results. And unfortunately, you could argue that we're in a better position when Mourinho got sacked, we're in a better position when Oli got sacked, and we're in a better position when Ten Hag got sacked. The system isn't the problem, but I hate it, says Jack. I'm not Amirim out but I've been seeing a lot lately I must agree that Amirim's in direction contention with a lot of the values of the club three back three selling Cobby not going for the win in Fergie time says Blake he's not going to change Mark so he needs to go says Shaw is not six foot Jamie welcome to the members club thank you very much Ruben playing this counter-attacking football give us Deitch instead at least he got the balls to play with four instead of five we need an extra midfielder says Chuck look what I will say is Wolves on Monday night isn't as straightforward as you think I think we'll probably win but it's not a given I was watching their game against Forest last night on Multiview they're competitive if they could put the ball in the back of the net they could get a point out of us so it's not a given that we'll go there and batter them 3 or 4-0 I mean I hope we do but if we're the and I tell you what if by some miracle they beat us that's not a good look you know no second yellow to Wan-Bissaka VAR is extended for the World Cup Look, Wan-Bissaka was man of the match.

30:02He was the best player on the pitch, but he should have been sent off. Having said that, we'd have only had about three minutes to score against 10 men and we couldn't do it for 70 against Everton. So I don't think it makes a massive difference. Arim's so stubborn and has no credit to back it up, says Gideon. If these owners don't sign a midfielder in January, I don't see us finishing higher than eighth, says Aylas. I don't blame the players. How can you change an entire back three and expect to don't concede goals? It's madness, says Richie. Long shot deflections only get you so far, says Daffet.

30:30Don't think Amri knows what he's doing says Glen Castle. Compare United's squad to his sporting squad. It's worse, says Ryan. These players must take accountability. How you go ultra-defences and concede from a set play says CM. The worst thing about that goal from West Ham is that every corner they've taken was shit and then the one that was decent. We can't defend it. We didn't hold that lead that long. Shocking, says Showtime. The ref was shite. He signals that he'll add more time during injury time but doesn't. Clear bias decisions. Where was Wambersak in second yellow? I think, Sec, the referee being shit is something very separate.

31:03We can't use that as an excuse. We can't. There's nothing about that referee performance that cost us the win today. Like, that's on us. Andy says, 10 years of shit. You pressured the club to sign Dorgue when we could have waited for Elk Nori and you're doing it again with the Gallagher talk. Who is this idiot? Who is this idiot? I didn't even know we were signing Dorgue. We were meant to be signing Mendes. It's got nothing to do. You're wasting my time. You're wasting my time. What are you talking about? Nobody likes to sack a manager, but now is the time. Too much doubt for too long. We can still salvage a decent spot in the league with the manager bounce and Kobe can play.

31:40Continues to rely on Sean Deleau like Oli and Ten Hag, says Luke. Kiel says, if Amman doesn't succeed, I'd consider Carrick or McLaren or both, says Kiel. Yoro literally leaves the guy alone, Mark. That's twice Yoro has cost us points, says FedEx. Goal difference for United is at plus one. We need goals for the tie, says Andrew. West Ham and everyone is this team's the only difference is players like who can turn something into an upmate. I don't know what you're saying there. I'm Jensen. You need to rewrite that. Terry said sack Amorim. The owners are the issue. Says MMA takedown. Oh yeah. I mean, sacking Amorim just is like very, very short term.

32:17But that's what fans do. Like the owners have caused all this. Give them another opportunity to send us even further down. The sub hurting us again. Ben, I'd really want to sell Agate and Lone Dorgou. Casemiro is hanging by a thread. I don't understand Kunya being subbed at all. I completely agree, John. Wabersaka should have been sent off, says Nathan. Martinez needs to start. No leader in the back line. Shaw was exposed, says Patrick. Amrim is leaving. That he shouldn't make any sub, says Kai. We've blown our chance after our mini run. Simple, says MUFC Music. If we lose to Wolves, is that Amrim's Watford?

32:49Well, I think it probably would be, Docco. Yeah, I think that's what I was sort of trying to say. I don't think we will lose to Wolves, but I think it could be his Watford. Yeah. I've tried so hard not to be Amrim out, says Jordan, but what has he done to show us he deserves time? The owners are the problem, but Amrim isn't good enough. Thank you, Jordan. Richie, thank you very much. I was Amrim in for so long and hoping he could replicate what he did at sporting, but it's time to go. We're up against a relegation contender and with AFCON coming up, we have very little threats, says Watson. Hi, Mark.

33:19Another disappointing result. The midfield is all over the place. Do you think Ten Hag had the team set up better than Amrim? says claim your own i mean it wasn't good under ten hog was it the midfield was wide open with him but you know you're judging two turds really aren't you i'm finally amram out says sammy we can blame the players for sure but you don't blame soldiers for losing wars you blame the generals we're cross and pray fc bring in total football much love mark says sammy i've never seen a manager with worse in-game management skills than amram says marlo and he is not improving Doco says in all honesty I'm starting to be Amrim out his decision making is shit Eric Ten Hag had no plan Amrim has a plan but it isn't working and it won't change thank you very much uh Amrim is not good enough says Oni the subs were awful he's tactically clueless he will not turn things around he has to go uh Amrim messed up should have gone for the jugular says Pete if that's what we do against West Ham what we do against the likes of Bayern says Frank look the worrying thing is It's Boxing Day.

34:15You play Newcastle. You're not looking at a team like West Ham. You're looking at a very good defence. You're looking at a very good midfield. And you're looking at a team with attacking options. Like we're playing teams that you don't expect to cause us a problem. And they're causing us a problem. When we play Villa and Newcastle, they're good teams. I don't know what's going to happen because we're playing bad. This team should be sponsored by five guys because they barely ever turn up, says Avia. Mark, I'm not one for picking on players, but Bruno needs to be rested. he's everywhere but nowhere he's supposed to be.

34:46Also, we concede and bring on a defender. Why? Says Slow Sports News. The look on Barada and Wilcox's faces at the end said enough. It seems the rope is running out for Amrim. Jim can't even manage Nice properly. Fans beating up their players. So what do we expect at United? Says Adoni. Xerxi being overlooked is such an English thing to do. Dumb fans, dumber manager. Says Abbey. Amrim is poo. Why are you confused, Mark? Says Jadon. In Man City's system, Haaland has the most shots and from great positions. Here we don't create for our striker. Embermo equals 0.04 XG. Harland equals 0.91 XG, says Hayder.

35:20One clear chance at home to West Ham. Counter FC, says Anthony. Embermo and Kunya were lacklustre. If either one of them turned up, we would have had an easy path to three points. But is that because we're not giving them the right ball, Dylan? You know? Sean McDermott, thanks for being a member for 23 months. Amarim is objectively the worst coach in the Premier League, says Ben Leach. When have we played well for two games in a row under Amarim, says MUFC Music. Amrim's system is a modified 3-2-5 like Arteta and Maresca. His system works. It's the players, says Ryan. Once again, Ruben dropped the ball with the subs and games management trying to keep a 1-0 score, taking Xerxiav when he was man of the match and main out like it was naive.

35:55Yeah, we tried to hold on with 15 minutes to go, which in this league tells me he doesn't understand it. I can't believe how bad Bruno is, says Marlowe. No leadership. Bowen and Bissaka, man of the match. Embarrassing. And how's Old Trafford become such an easy place to visit, says Marlowe. Amrim need to go. So Amrianna and Bruno need to go to progress as Anthony Jury. How is Bruno playing every week? Side passes all game. Right, let's do the player ratings because the fan forum are waiting for us as well. And it's only fair that they get their chance to. Loads of good comments coming in. Look, in summary, a lot of people are saying it.

36:28I think the big thing to say is, and we said it in June. Unfortunately, the decision to keep Bruno Fernandes and then to play him as a midfielder could be, as we said in June, the decision that costs you your job. Ultimately, the way Ten Hag treated De Gea was the beginning of the end for him. And you could look at Amrim deciding to use Bruno as a midfielder as the beginning of the end for him too. These big decisions, if you get them wrong, you fall on that sword, don't you? And I think many of you said that. We discussed it. Ten hours on my feet, traffic, noise, everybody needing something from me.

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38:34I think he was back to his best today. He was our best defender. And, you know, he did so well, so well to try and stop that goal. But unfortunately, we decided to unmark somebody in our own six yard box. Aidan Heaven struggled five. You know, he did struggle. But, you know, he's a young player who's been thrown into a game. And I think he's got a bright future. Luke Shaw today I'd probably give him a 5.5 um again a decent first half second half he's blowing out his ass and I've been saying this for a while um Luke Shaw cannot play 90 minutes in the second half of every game he falls asleep you know he's not he can't do it he can't do it uh ahmad mixed bag six for me um good bits and bad bits defensively he was okay going forward there was good moments but i don't i thought it was a six for ahmad today average casimiro was below average today 5.5 for me uh 5.7 from you no i thought i thought first off i didn't even know he was in the game um i probably give him a five for first half and a six for second half so 5.5 for me.

39:46I thought first half he was out of the game. He was desperately trying to get the yellow card. I felt really sorry for him because he really did try to get the yellow card so he misses the Wolves game and is back to the Bournemouth game but couldn't get it. Bruno first half I thought was like good but not as a midfielder. He was like he was in right wing, left wing. He was all over the place and he was playing quite well. He nearly scored a good volley. Second half I don't know whether he was tired but he fell away so I'd probably just give Bruno a six. five 4.8 I do think first half Bruno was okay second half he got tired but uh Deleu

40:28I'd give him a seven for the goal and a fucking two for the long throw in so it's a 5.5 for me I can't stand the long throwing I can't stand the long throwing I'm sorry um and the goal was just because nobody marks him. So, you know, he took it well, but you'd all have scored that. Stevie Wonder would have scored that, but it's the long throw-ins. It's the long throw-ins. And Bermot, 5.5 today, he's caught the bug, hasn't he? He's caught that bug of, I mean, look, this needs to be studied. You know, there's people doing all sorts of thesis for their, you know, for their degrees. Somebody needs to study this.

41:06You know, can we get in contact with the British Science Museum or something. Please study how a player can be performing week in, week out over a long period of time, and then they come to Manchester United and they gradually lose that ability. What is it about the culture of Manchester United that takes that down? It's madness to me. I don't understand it because at Brentford last year, he was week in, week out, like that. And Colby says it's one gain. No, it's been going on for a while. He wasn't that good against Palace. He wasn't that good against Everton. It's starting to happen with Mbamo.

41:49Like, it doesn't look anything like he did at Brentford. It's the United curse, says Lord Kempo. Same with Kunja. But I sort of understand it with Kunja because I've said this from the very start. We're not utilising Kunja. At least with Mbamo, he likes the ball over the top. Kunja needs a menu or a mount to play the ball into his feet. When I think about Kunja at Wolves and I'm watching the highlights, he gets the ball into feet, he spins, he runs into space. We're so slow at moving the ball forward that when he gets the ball, if he gets the ball, he's got six players around him and he very rarely gets the ball.

42:27So Kunja is a player that needs the ball into his feet quickly. And we're not utilising him. It's like buying a striker and not giving them service. So I like Kunja, but we're just not giving him service. 5.5. I thought Xerxes, for me, was at least a six today. I thought that, you know, he played a good few potential assists. He worked his arse off, but he's in the graveyard shift. Simple as that. Yoro I'd have to scrutinise the goal But probably a 5.5 No no I would like to give Yoro a 6 He made a couple of good blocks I'd have to see the goal again But he did make it I thought Yoro did alright when he came on actually Martinez wasn't on long enough Agate was on long enough Dorgue looks like he's got no confidence Probably because Amrim's called him out publicly 5 Mount was a 5 He really struggled I don't think he was fit he looked like he was running around in trainers.

43:25Didn't look like he had the right studs on. Amirim today, look, I'll be honest with you. If Amirim gets the win, we're sat here going, you know, poor performance, but give him a six or seven. But those substitutes, and more importantly, trying to defend a 1-0 lead with 15 minutes to go against a team that wasn't attacking, I'll never understand that I'll never understand it right you can anticipate they're going to start to have chances but when he made those subs we were still attacking we'd gone 1-0 up and we were still on top and it was like I'm going to give you 15 minutes to attack us and I'll never understand that I'll never understand that why would you do that?

44:12they weren't attacking us and you allowed them to attack us you literally allowed it to happen So four for me today from Amrim, I think. Man of the match, Deleu. Well done. I'm glad you voted for him. Scored a goal, didn't he? Scored a goal. Right. We need to get over to the match reaction. The fan forum, sorry. We're not spamming Amrim out because then everyone will think, oh, I should have kept him out. If you go over there spamming Amrim out, you're basically going to make them think I told you to say Amrim out. And I didn't. I would say shocking. That's my word of the night. I'm shocked. That's what I am.

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04/12/2025 - Match Review! Man United bottle a 1-0 lead to West Ham at home, in a gutless performance all round, and we fail, once again, to capitalise on a top four/five spot. Amorim's subs are the big talking point.

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