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5 Dec 2025 · 1h 9m · 21 chapters

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263: Amorim in BIG Trouble! GONE By Christmas?

In short

Manchester United crisis under manager Ruben Amorim, with calls for change “by Christmas” and criticism of INEOS/ownership, club standards, tactics, and player selection.

Guest backgrounds

No guests appear in the transcript; it’s a solo host segment (Mark Goldbridge) with live audience comments and references to other shows/people (e.g., Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Darren Fletcher, Ben Jacobs).

Key claims

  • United’s “performance, results, and vision” are all failing; style is long-ball/long-throw/set-piece dependent and lacks identity.
  • Amorim’s Premier League win ratio is cited as 42% (6 wins from 14 games); home points cited as 27 from 20 games.
  • Bruno Fernandes and Casemiro in midfield are blamed for poor results; younger players like Kobbie Mainoo are criticized for not getting starts.
  • Ownership (INEOS/“Glazer puppets”) is accused of lowering standards and lacking a replacement plan if Amorim is sacked.

Notable examples

  • “Three points from 15” against Brentford, Everton, West Ham, Spurs, and Nottingham Forest.
  • Long throw-ins from the wrong side; Deleu launching throws.
  • Mention of upcoming perilous fixtures: Wolves, Bournemouth, Villa, Newcastle (with injuries like Amad, Diallo, and Masraoui).

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Chapters

1:50

Ruben Amorim's Troubles at United

Mark discusses Ruben Amorim's precarious position and the club's performance issues.

“How are you feeling this morning then as Ruben Amrin faces big trouble at Manchester United?”
4:33

The Problems: Performance, Results, and Vision

Mark outlines the three major issues plaguing Manchester United: performance, results, and vision.

“And that's basically what Roy Keane was saying.”
9:15

The Need for Change in Management

Mark emphasizes the need for a managerial change and discusses the club's identity crisis.

“My mate messaged me last night, my best man from when I got married.”
14:00

Frustration with Midfield Choices

Discussion about Bruno Fernandes and Kobi Maynou's roles in the midfield.

“I'm going to put Bruno Fernandes in the midfield and I'm going to destroy the career of Kobi Maynou and I know better.”
18:08

Concerns Over Managerial Stability

Analysis of the managerial situation at Manchester United and potential repercussions.

“Liverpool apparently have got a slot replacement ready to go if they need to do it.”
21:44

Ownership and Accountability Issues

Discussion on the need for accountability and potential changes at the club.

“You're still going to have Deleu, Shaw, Casemiro, Bruno and crew.”
23:54

Vision and Future of the Club

Debate on the lack of vision and future plans for Manchester United.

“It's either removing players that have been here for years, which is very unlikely, or it's the manager changing his principles, which is really unlikely, or it's the manager being removed, which is what we always do.”
28:00

Critique of Managerial Decisions

Discussing the team's poor performance and management decisions.

“I don't get that argument that, well, he's going short-term because he's trying to win games.”
33:02

Future of the Team: Manager and Players

Debating future management options and player performance expectations.

“Planzo says, if Ruben gets the sack, where do you think that leaves us as a club?”
42:00

Urgent Changes Needed at Man United

Discussion on the need for a tactical change and potential managerial issues at Manchester United.

“Or you go, you're not the guy and you make a change.”
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44:31

Frustrations Over Performance and Management

Listeners express their frustrations about poor performances, managerial decisions, and the team's direction.

“Totally, Alfie says, Amrin was laughing at a reporter, suggesting Mainu as an attacking sub is disgusting.”
47:26

Reflections on Recent Managers and Rebuild Needs

Debate on the impact of recent managers and the essential rebuilding process for the squad.

“We've taken three points from Brentford, Forest, Spurs, West Ham and Everton.”
51:14

Mismanagement of Players and Tactical Misfit

In-depth analysis of player mismanagement and tactical mismatches within the team.

“We keep bringing these managers in who are blinkered.”
56:00

Reflections on Management and Player Performance

Discussion on the management decisions impacting player performances and team dynamics.

“This reminds me of the end of Noel Hunt at my local club, Reading, with too many draws costing him his job in the end.”
57:26

Critique of Managerial Communication

Critique of the manager's communication style and its effect on team morale.

“Look, we might have a slightly longer show this morning.”
59:19

Declining Standards and Fan Expectations

Discussion on the declining performance standards at Manchester United and fan expectations.

“We can't afford to be relaxed when we're leading 1-0.”
1:01:28

Player Transfers and Tactical Decisions

Exploration of player transfers, tactical decisions, and their implications for the team.

“One of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Premier League.”
1:03:17

Managerial Decisions and Tactical Acumen

Analysis of the manager's tactical decisions and their justification in team performance.

“He's disappointed to be missing out, but it's a tactical issue.”
1:05:26

The State of Manchester United

Discussion about the current state of Manchester United and its leadership challenges.

“Because what I was told 10 days ago is that United have got nobody lined up if Amorim needs to be sacked, which leads me to think they won't do it.”
1:10:00

Accountability in Football Standards

Discussing the current standards of the football club and the need for accountability.

“And I'm like, to be honest with you, Roy Keane's right.”
1:10:30

Fan Reactions and Polls

Exploring fan sentiments regarding the club's management and recent polling results.

“World Cup draw, Bundesliga, evening show, lots going on.”
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1:44Available at Lowe's. Hello, everybody. Good morning. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge. How are you feeling this morning then as Ruben Amrin faces big trouble at Manchester United? I mean, breaking news straight away. We've had a live poll going and you can vote in it during the show, but it has been going for a few minutes. Amrim in 40 percent. Amrim out 60 percent. That's the first time in this community we've seen that swing. He's in big trouble. I don't intend to sit here and rant and rave. You might stoke me into that mood. But the reality is something has to change at the football club.

2:18I think there are three things that, you know, I think everybody waking up this morning who's a United fan is getting a strong dose of reality. I think the big problem is I'm seeing people that are still backing the manager, backing the club, being ridiculed, being called Glazer Lights, you know, Amarim Rimmers. You know, some horrible names. Amarim Rimmers. Amarim Rimmers. That was it. Amarim Rimmers. Amarim Rimmers. Rimming Amarim. So, yeah, look, I think people are being ridiculed for it. But also, I also think that, you know, as I've said before, in a watch along, in a match reaction, your tensions are running high.

2:59I don't think the people who scream and shout actually really help us. I can come at this in a very pragmatic way and say that there are three reasons Man United need to make a change. And Ruben Amrim needs to change very, very quickly, which I don't think he will. or United need to change Amarin very, very quickly? Because, I mean, the thing that resonated with me last night the most was what Roy Keane said. You've got players being applauded off the pitch and players applauded on the pitch. Where are the standards at this football club? Every time I watch Man United, they're disappointing. Where are the standards at this football club?

3:35And we've spoken about that. I mean, you know, it's great when a legend of the club like Roy Keane says it, but we have spoken about that. The standards of this football club are in the mud. Now, some of the younger fans can't help that. This is not about age. This is about what this club is. There are people who are older than me who, you know, saw the 60s, saw the 70s when we got relegated. I don't know that. What I did see was the 90s and the noughties under Sir Alex Ferguson. And I saw how we can play. I saw what we can be. And it's a bit like we're a bit like Cinderella at the moment, Man United.

4:08we're like, we're this beautiful thing that should be on top of the world, that's in the basement scrubbing the floor, smelling of shit. And it's like, some people are okay with that. They like it. But I look at it and I go, we're better than this. We are better than this. And I don't care if I'm the only person in the world saying it. We're better than this, and we deserve better than this. And it's not being a moaner, and it's not being negative to hold standards. And that's basically what Roy Keane was saying. And I bloody agree with it. The standards are terrible. And I don't want to point fingers at people, but the people this morning who are waking up and going, it's not that bad.

4:47We need to stick with it. You know, patience, progress. I'm sorry. I think you are the problem now. It's flipped 100%. You are the problem. If you're waking up this morning and going that in any way, shape or form is acceptable. I'm sorry. As I've always said, I don't want to see managers sacked. I don't like these owners and 100 % they've caused this problem. But it gets to a point as a football fan where you've got to say that's not acceptable. And little things to me, I mean, symbolic of, you know what, I thought Amrim's symbolism was going to be playing Bruno Fernandes in the midfield. It's now having Deleuze launch long throw-ins into the box from the wrong side of the pitch.

5:25To see him running from left-back to right-back to take a long throw, my heart sinks. You know, it's disgusting what this club has become at the moment and it's not acceptable. And you know what? Just to throw a few facts as well. We've taken three points from 15 against Brentford, Everton, West Ham, Spurs and Forest. Three points from 15 against them. Oh, yeah, we played well against Arsenal. We beat Chelsea, we beat Liverpool. We've taken three points from West Ham, Everton, Brentford, Forest and Spurs. Three points. His win ratio in the Premier League is 42%. Apparently, he's took 27 points from 20 games at home.

6:09Like, the only thing that's stopping me saying hammer him out is the fact that he's only been here a year and they haven't bought him a midfielder. That's it. That is the only thing that's stopping me sitting here this morning saying he's got to go. And also the fear of who comes in next. Because if you're telling me it's Southgate, I'll keep hammering forever. So the only reason I'm not saying Amri Mout this morning is because he's only been here a year and he hasn't been given midfielders. That's it. I can't give you anything else. I mean, I do like the guy. He speaks well in interviews, but so did Rangik.

6:40The only reason I'm sat here not saying Amri Mout is because he's only been here a year. I don't like sacking managers and they haven't bought him in midfield. Apart from that, and I don't think those things really do stack up. I would say to the people saying Amri Mout this morning, you have got every right. to come back at me. A year? What does that mean? You're either shit or you're good. A year was long enough for Emery. So, you know, I agree with that. We need midfielders, but he could be playing different midfielders with what he's got. So, you know, you don't like sacking managers. What if it's not the right guy?

7:18But what I would say is, though, there's three big problems, right? My brain's whizzing around here and I've already got some good comments coming in. Slow Sports News says, What angers me the most is when an opportunity arises to take full advantage of a bad situation from other teams being badly. Losing and drawing at home is simply not good enough. It's like Roy Keane said last night. When the opportunity is there, it's almost like they're scared of it. This is not the opportunity to go top. It's not a team bottling going top. It's a team bottling going fifth. Man United are scared of being fifth.

7:50So you're absolutely spot on, Slow Sports News. But look, the three things, I call it PRV, right? The big problems, the three big things we've got that are, I think, why people are waking up this morning, not screaming, not shouting, just going, this probably needs to stop, is performance. performance for the P is abysmal. It was abysmal against Palace. It's been abysmal for weeks. The performance is absolutely awful. Long ball, can't play against low blocks, long throw-ins, relying on set pieces. Absolutely abysmal style of football. I mean, there are teams in the championship where people can go and watch a mid-table championship side and they have an identity.

8:36We have no identity and it's certainly not attractive. So performance is a massive problem. Results is a massive problem. I mean, a 42 % win ratio in the Premier League is crap for Manchester United. And some of the points we're dropping is unacceptable. So terrible performance, terrible results. And then the V, vision. If it was terrible results and terrible performance, but you had a team of youngsters or a team with a vision, you might go, let's give it time. But it's terrible performance, terrible results, and a team of players that have sacked multiple other managers and are short term and we've had enough of them.

9:17My mate messaged me last night, my best man from when I got married. Very different opinions as Man United fans, very different opinions. But he messaged me last night and he said, you know what the biggest problem is, and he's not like this at all. He said, I don't actually like any of the players. They're very unlikable. And I went, I don't totally agree with you because I think there are three or four players I do like in that team, but he's not wrong. They are totally, I wouldn't say they're unlikable. They're unrelatable. They're unrelatable. Dem says you can be a hypocrite at times. Well, you can be a knobhead at times because you can't say someone's a hypocrite and then not tell them what they're a hypocrite for.

10:01I mean, you must be a great mate. Mate, you're such a hypocrite. Are you going to tell me why? No. I mean, it's an irrelevant comment, mate, but I'm happy to field the comments from the knobheads. Tell me why I'm a hypocrite and I'll tell you why I'm not. The point I'm making is the team is totally unlikable. The manager has no vision, no performance and no results, and the owners are despisable. the only thing I relate the only thing I'm loyal to is the name Manchester United the only thing I'm loyal to is the badge this morning absolutely everything else can do one I don't care I don't feel loyalty to the manager I don't feel loyalty to the players and I don't feel loyalty to the ownership and there is nothing wrong with having that view absolutely none we're guilt tripped into into people saying you've got to do this you've got to back the players you've got to back the manager.

10:50You got to do it. No, I don't. Support Manchester United. Sir Alex Ferguson's not the manager anymore. David Beckham doesn't play on the wing anymore. I support Manchester United for the reasons I support Manchester United. I don't support Manchester United because of this manager or this team or this ownership. My loyalty to Man United was way before them and it'll go way after them. I don't have to support them. I support Manchester United. And that's why when we play shit and we win, I'm happy because I just want Man United to win. But I'm tired of this. I'm really tired of this this morning.

11:24There is no performance, there is no results and there is no vision. And you know what's starting to become really, really, really, really evident is that the fans are right again. And I'm tired of managers coming into our football club and telling us they know better without doing their own homework. I mean, the mistakes are incredible. And you know what? I'm not saying we should go back to an ex-player, but for the God, you know, Nicky Butts sat there doing a bloody podcast. Get him in the bloody club. Get somebody in that football club that came through from the youth to the first team that knows it.

12:01We do need people in that football. I mean, what does Darren Fletcher do? Like, I haven't heard from Darren Fletcher in months. We need people of high status who will come into that football club for the next decade and take it back to where it needs to be. You know, you've got Paul Scholes saying he struggles getting tickets. These are people that should be part of the tapestry of that football club because we have no identity. If you've got no identity, go on bloody get one. Because I look at like, I look at, you know what? I look at Wilcox. Look, let's be very, very clear here. If Amrim is to go, then Wilcox and Barada need to go as well.

12:41Who are these pretenders? Who are these people? One was at Man City. They're both from Man City. Apparently, they're best in class. They're not best in class because they don't understand football at Manchester United. And we keep bringing these managers in who don't understand what we are. You know, I listen to Ten Hag. I listen to Amarin. And I'm like, I couldn't pass up this opportunity. It's Manchester United. What a massive club. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you talk about Manchester United, you talk about this massive club, and you do absolutely no homework on it at all. You come in, you play the game.

13:21Oh, I love Man United. I love it. It's such a big club. I couldn't turn it down. Oh, I'm absolutely in awe of it. I know all about it. You know, bloody nothing about it. You come into the club, you press the stubborn button and the stupid button, and then you sit there going la la la la la. Like, you know, you know, Ten Hag, when he got rid of De Gea. That was it. You were done, mate. You've just gone and got rid of one of our fan favourite players who's delivered through the tough times year after year and is one of our best players to bring in a prat. You're gone. You don't understand Manchester United.

13:55You've shat on a legend. Get out. Amrim comes in. I'm going to put Bruno Fernandes in the midfield and I'm going to destroy the career of Kobi Maynou and I know better. No, you don't. You look an absolute prat. Bruno is never going to be a midfielder. My cat knows that. And Maynou should be getting minutes in a team that's shit. I don't mind Maynou being dropped. I don't mind Maynou being dropped if the team is performing well. But I've watched Casemiro and Bruno take a shit in our midfield for the last three months, and he can't give Maynou a chance. He can't give him a start in a Premier League and say, let's have a chance.

14:36Aidan Heaven gets to start last night, but Maynou doesn't get to start because Bruno's got to fucking play every week. We've got to bring in people who understand the tapestry of this football club. It's an awakening. We have to bring people in who know what the club's all about. And also, don't bring bloody Rio Ferdinand in. He'd be doing vlogs. He played for the club. He understands the club, but there's no way he's got a bloody clue out of what to do. Bring intelligent people in. Bring people in like Nicky Butt, who've already worked at the club, who may not be David Beckham or Rio Ferdinand in relation to Korea, but is an intelligent person who knows the club.

15:17Bring people like that into the club and let's properly start building it because we have got no identity. And I'm telling you now, if we've got fans in our fan base that are sat there happy with a a substandard fullback playing out of position, chucking, launching the ball into the box at West Ham players. I mean, I tell you what, if I'd have had the choice, if Sir Jim Radcliffe had rung me up last night at 10 o 'clock and said, shall I sack him? And I said, yes. You know why? Because of them long throws. Sack him and get Deleu to throw him out the door. That's how I feel, Sir Jim. Now this morning, I don't feel like that, but I'm sick to the back teeth of that.

15:57That's what I'm fed up of. Eighth in the league playing absolutely shit. Absolutely shit. And you know what? Look at that league table. Look at the points we've dropped. We should have another four points at least. At least we should have beat West Ham. We should have beat and we should have beat Everton. That's five points. We lost. We should have another five points. Five points where we are now puts us third. We're shit and we should be third. Imagine what would happen if we were run by somebody who knew what they're on about and had a manager who knew what they're on about as well. You know, we are where we deserve to be because Everton deserve to beat us and West Ham deserve to draw.

16:46But like, you know, you look at the hands tied behind our back as well and you go, So, you know, incredible. I mean, look, I said after game 10 is where we're going to learn about United. I did not expect us to fall off a cliff. If you look at from game 10 to now, one point against Spurs, no points against Everton, three points against Palace and one point against West Ham. So we've taken five from 12, but it's against Everton, West Ham, Spurs and Palace. It's not good enough. It's not good enough. And for anybody who's saying, well, you know, do you think you'll get sacked? As I said on That's Football this morning with Premier League predictions with Robbie, Ten Hag, West Ham sacked.

17:32Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Watford sacked. Amorim, were for West Ham, were for Watford, were for Wolves. I mean, it could happen. The only thing is I think West Ham are absolutely shit. Sorry, not West Ham. I think Wolves are absolutely shit. So I don't think so. But if he doesn't, if he lost to Wolves on Monday, I think he'd get sacked. I think he'd have to get sacked. Now, we've got Ben Jacobs on the show at two o 'clock. And I think one of the interesting things are going to be, are United prepared? Because the last I heard, and I think it was about 10 days ago, much the same as Solskjaer, they don't have a plan.

18:09They've got no one back. They've got nothing planned. Liverpool apparently have got a slot replacement ready to go if they need to do it. that's quite well known in the industry. Man United, as of 10 days ago, are totally in on Amorim, still sticking to the three-year plan and do not have anybody lined up. If we lose to Wolves on Monday, he would have to go and they don't have anybody lined up. Why do we keep making these mistakes? If Liverpool have a manager lined up to replace Slott if they need to and they only won the league in the summer and they spent half a billion in the summer, why do Man United not have a manager lined up when we sack managers all the time?

18:50It's that continuity which is laughable, really. However, look, I don't think we'll lose to Wolves on Monday, but if he did, he'd be in big trouble. But I tell you where the problem's going to be. Beat Wolves, maybe beat Bournemouth. Villa away, Newcastle at home. Forget that. We are not good enough to beat Villa and Newcastle at the moment. something would have to change massively. And let's not forget, we won't have Mbamo and Ahmad either, or Masraoui. So the chances of us going to Villa and beating them and then coming to play Newcastle at Old Trafford on Boxing Day and beating them in our current form with no Mbamo, Ahmad.

19:31I can see two losses there. I can see two losses. And at some point, like there's got to be a reaction from the ownership. Like I feel that some of our fans and maybe some of them are in this show today. I feel you've been indoctrinated. I feel you're part of a cult. I feel you've had your standards lowered so much you don't even know what's acceptable and what's unacceptable anymore. You know, I genuinely think there's people going, we just got to give it time. You know, we have just got to give it time because that's what Ineos want. They don't want to sack him. They want to keep him. They want to stick with it for years and years and years.

20:05They want to pretend it's like Sir Alex in the late 80s. You've got Sir Jim Radcliffe in an international break saying three years. And they're bloody clueless. They're absolutely clueless. But I'm telling you now, Villa and Newcastle, they're going to be a big problem. Very, very, very, very, very, very big problem. Friend says, Nick says, what are we supposed to do? Nick, put me and you in charge today. I'll tell you what you do. When your business is failing, you take action. You don't sit there and pray. You don't pretend everything's going to be OK. I'll tell you now, when you've got no performance and you're getting bad results and you've got no vision on the pitch, what are you waiting for?

20:46What are we waiting for? People want to call it progress. No performance, results are shit and no vision. What are you waiting for? Seriously, what are you waiting for? Why are you letting that happen? You are shitting on the name of Manchester United. This is absolutely unacceptable. Something has to happen. Now, what that something is, is either open the checkbook in January and buy Elliot Anderson. Tell the manager to start using Mainu and other players or get rid of the manager. You know, there's three options there. But ultimately. Removing Amrim still leaves us with an absolutely incompetent pile of shit ownership that will probably make it worse.

21:31So I don't think it gets better by sacking Amrim. I think we have to put our hands in the air and say he may well be heading towards the sack, but it doesn't get better. I don't think we're a football club where you sack the manager and everything gets good. I don't think we're Aston Villa under Gerrard where he's completely out of his depth and then Emery comes in and it's time to fly. I don't think that's going to happen. You're still going to have Deleu, Shaw, Casemiro, Bruno and crew. You know, you're still going to have the Ineos in charge who, you know, are basically just the Glazer puppets.

22:01So yeah, sacking Amrim, I don't think things get instantly better because you're still left with the problems that we've had before. But this can't continue. Something has to change. Something has to change. And for all those people saying, well, what are we supposed to do? Get the fucking, get MUTV on or get your DVDs out and remember what this club's all about. Standards. Where are your bloody standards? This is not acceptable. People booing at the end of the game yesterday, I don't even like booing. Well done. Well done. Don't be guilt tripped. Don't be guilt tripped by a football club that doesn't care about you.

22:40Don't be guilt tripped by an ownership that basically is playing a PR game because they just want to build a new stadium and get rich. This is about day to day Manchester United. You should watch a game on a Saturday or a Sunday or a Monday and be entertained. You should not be sat there going, what is this shit I'm watching again? It's not acceptable. We have the fourth best wage bill in the league. Only Man City pay more on their midfield than us. And we're absolutely crap. There has to be accountability for performance. We're not a bloody charity. I think Ineos and the Glazers have done a fantastic job of brainwashing you into going, what can we do?

23:32You know, what can we do? We're playing rubbish football. We're getting rubbish performance and we're using players that have sacked multiple managers. Come on, call it out for what it is. Where's your bloody standards? This is unacceptable. And I tell you what, it's got to change. Something's got to change at that football club and it's either at the top, which is very, very unlikely. It's either removing players that have been here for years, which is very unlikely, or it's the manager changing his principles, which is really unlikely, or it's the manager being removed, which is what we always do.

24:07And I don't necessarily think any of those things, the number one thing would be to change the ownership, but the club's on its arse. And I'm tired of saying it. Things can get worse. Things can get a lot worse. But we need new ownership because even if you remove Amarim, Wilcox and Barada... I mean, why do Wilcox and Barada survive if Amarim goes? Did they not make that decision? I mean, it's not just Amarim. Like, Wilcox needs to go. Barada needs to go. It's been a shower of shit from day one from them. They need to go as much as Amarim does. You know, it's not just the manager. The whole club from top to bottom.

24:44Bruno's got to go. Got to go. It's gone beyond a joke now. He's got to go. People like Luke Shaw have got to go. But this is what I mean about vision. Performance and results obviously are always going to be the talking point. United played crap last night and they drew. Their PR, performance and result is always going to be the focus. But what about vision? What about vision? I was thinking this morning, if we'd used Mainu yesterday, And we'd started Yoro. Yeah. And we'd brought Lacey on for half an hour. If we'd drawn that game 1-1, we wouldn't be as angry because we'd be like, well, at least there's a bit of a vision of what he's trying to do.

25:29There is no vision with that team. There isn't. Jem says Luke Shaw hasn't done much wrong. Don't, don't, don't, don't go there this morning. I told you, I'm trying not to rant and rave. Don't go there with him. He's an absolute fucking waste of space. Gary Neville's right. He's a waste of space. Get him out of the club. Waste of a wage. I don't even think he played well yesterday. I thought he was shit in the second half. I mean, the point about Luke Shaw is he's touching 30. He only plays loads of games in a World Cup year or a Euros year. And he's not part of the future. He's not part of the future.

26:03Now, Trev says he just wants to win games, mate, but he's not winning games. He's not winning games. Trev, I'm not getting angry with you. I saw people say this today. The vision doesn't matter because he's just trying to win games. Who made you God of Man United? What do you mean the vision doesn't matter because he's just trying to win games? He's got a win ratio of 42%. We sacked Ten Hag with 53. We sacked Oli with 53. I think Mourinho got sacked with a win ratio of 58. So shit football, but it doesn't matter because he's just trying to win games. So let me get this right. We are now saying it's OK to have no vision because he just wants to win games.

26:53So we've got no vision, no performance, and we're not winning. So at what point do you go, OK, there's no vision. The performance is horrible and we're not winning. So what's your next excuse then? So he's picking Bruno in the midfield with Casemiro and he's using all these experienced players and he's going short term to win, but he's not winning. I get that. I get that. You know what? If you're in charge of Real Madrid and that, you know, you're just trying to win the league and you're using the old players and it's not very good football, but you're winning and then you win the league. You get to the summer and you go, look, we got away with it.

27:36I used the experienced players to win the league. It was short-termism. We're now going to build for the future. I get that. I do get that. I understand that. But our experienced players are experienced in failure. They're not winners. So we're using all these experienced players, we're still playing shit and we're not winning. So if Amorim was winning games with these older players for a short-term fix, I'd go, yeah, I get it. But we're rubbish. We're rubbish. Absolutely rubbish. So I don't get that at all. I don't get that argument that, well, he's going short-term because he's trying to win games.

28:14We're not winning games. We're not winning games. The decision making is abysmal. Anyway, let me read some of your comments. So Amirim is ass, but I have to hear, if I have to hear Maynu moans anymore, I might have a breakdown. The guy is slower than two snails fucking and wanted big books, says Andres. But mate, that's, you know, you could get sued for that if he gave a shit because you don't know any of that's true. And he hasn't been given an opportunity. And you know what? When somebody says, well, Maynou's shit, well, he hasn't been given a chance. And Bruno's shit and Casemiro's shit. So it doesn't make any sense.

28:53So it doesn't make any sense to me. We're going to lose Maynou sticking with Amarin, by the way. Just think on that. We're going to lose Maynou sticking with this manager. Now, I believe that a manager should always be backed. And I think Mourinho wanted rid of Martial and Shaw and the club wouldn't do it. And maybe they should. But at this moment in time, are you happy to see Maynou leave this football club for Amarim? DF says results are improving. Mate, we've taken one point from six at home to Everton and West Ham in our last two home games. I mean, I don't want to sit you down and make you look like a completely not an idiot, but you look like an idiot.

29:35Would you agree that with the exception of Arsenal, the standard the Premier League has dropped in comparison to other leagues? I think this is the thing. I think the standard of the Premier League this season is atrocious and it should be an open door for Manchester United, but we can't take it. It is a really crap Premier League this year. It makes it interesting because everybody's beating everybody. But standard wise, I mean, look at Man City, 5-1 up against Fulham. They're holding on 5-4, 3-2 at home to Leeds. Arsenal are the best of the best, but the rest, it's such an opportunity. It is.

30:10Naif says I'm watching from the US No manager can turn the ship around The way the club is ran Relegation feels inevitable at this point The club needs that reset MUFC Music says Amrim out I'll tell you how I feel this morning I don't care if they sack Amrim I don't care And I've seen a lot of people saying this I don't actually care What they do anymore Because they don't represent As fans They don't represent me so they can make a bad decision. They can make a good decision. I don't care. I don't trust these owners. I think they're incompetent. Yeah, you're a billionaire, but you're not a billionaire because of football.

30:47You're a billionaire because of petrochemicals. You don't know what you're doing. So, you know, the appointment of Amram in the first place needs to be questioned massively. I think a lot of us got excited about it because we looked at it and went, well, we don't play a 3-4-3. So if they bring in a manager in that plays like this, they must be ready to spend half a billion very quickly. And they weren't. They basically went, he's a hipster. They didn't even get what they were doing. I'm absolutely convinced now, a year on, they basically went, he's a good manager, he'll make us good. And nobody in the room went, but he doesn't play the way we play.

31:22And our players don't play the way he plays. And we haven't got the money to buy the players he needs. absolutely convinced. We just went, well, he's a good manager. If he comes here, we'll be a good team. They never looked at, like I said it when we appointed Amrim. I'm very surprised. I'm very excited, but it surely means we're going to spend half a billion very quickly because we haven't got the players for the sporting system. We haven't done it. We haven't done it. So that's on Ineos as well. Amrim in or out, I don't care. I'm all about the manicures United, but mark my words, these players will be back here in 13 months.

31:58So, oh yeah, they will, Saunders. I mean, I can see a lot of these players still turning out for United in 12 months, which is why I don't trust them. Now it's time for a little word from today's podcast sponsor. And as a preview, they have a great discount for you. It's been a long season so far and after a year of grinding, you've earned a little something special for yourself. This upcoming festive season is all about taking a break, recharging and actually enjoying the things you want. and that's where Air Up comes in. Air Up lets you drink plain water that tastes full of flavour through scents alone.

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33:09Look, I'll concede if we brought Thomas Frank in tomorrow or Sean Dyche in tomorrow, we'd probably start to play a style of football that we could all see. We might not like it, but we'd all see it. And we'd probably stabilise results because these players love to play part of the bus counter-attacking football. I don't think we'd like the performance, but I think that we would start to see a vision. We haven't got one. I don't want to see a Deitch style of football at Manchester United. Personally, I still think Conte would have been a good shout. I don't know where I'd go afterwards. I mean, that's one of the questions I want to ask Ben Jacobs at two o 'clock.

33:49Like, how safe is Amarim now? And are they lining anybody up? 222 says, I'm backing Amarim until the summer, but I think he should go then. Even with signings, his football hasn't improved and he seems too stubborn to change. Well, remember, Man United have got to make a decision on Amarim in the summer because they really need to extend his contract. You can't have him going into the last year of his contract. Would I like to see him get the season now? I don't know whether I can put up with this every week. I'll be honest. I've always said I'd like to see him here next season because that means we'd be in Europe.

34:23I've always said I want to see him complete the season. But I'm really not enjoying watching Man United play football. I'm really not enjoying it. The long throw-ins are killing me. The long balls are just as bad. it's chaos football it's just I can't believe this is what we are I can't believe this great football club is just a point of ridicule now it's embarrassing what we are and what you know I understand that Ineos are business people and they want the stadium to make money but for the love of God that club needs ripping apart in a playing staff it needs ripping apart how can you have players walking into a dressing room with Bruno Fernandes and all those other players there still telling people what to do.

35:15It's a mess. It's an absolute mess. What's up, Sham says, out of all our sacked managers, Amrim is the only one who actually deserves it, even for his Portuguese bias alone. Well, look, the big problem he has is he's got, I don't, you know, when I talk about a win ratio of 42%, I'm talking about Premier League games this season. I'm not talking about last season. I don't use last season. It'll be worse. It'll be worse. I'm talking about we've played 14 Premier League games and he's only won six, which is about 42%. I'm not even including Grimsby. This is purely Premier League games this season, win ratio of 42%.

35:53I don't even include last year. So it's abysmal. I'm officially amring him out due to his stubbornness to pursue this system and inability to adapt. His system isn't feasible long-term because world-class wing-backs are rare, so we wouldn't be able to compete consistently anyway, says Mitesh. Big Chris says, I hate the owners and I don't like most of the players, but even I could manage this team better. I had to say it, but it's time for him to go. Neese and United are both struggling under this ownership, says Sal. Well, the ownership thing, we can't change it, but fundamentally, you know, it's the shit that rolls downhill.

36:28Keel says, I'd consider McLaren and Carrick combo to reconnect our club with our culture. our strategy is to make do not jabi we'd have the same problems um uh reese says win for west ham watford and wolves what sorry w for west ham watford and wolves what about w for what we're going to do with these wank players and tactics because it's w for wimbledon ball says reese um if amarin gets sacks how much time do we give the new manager says esberg look if it's gareth southgate i'm southgate out from minute one that's all i'm gonna say um but it wouldn't surprise me I mean, just when you think it can't get any worse, it gets worse.

37:05Next manager must prioritise winning the midfield, says Haider. Look, one thing I would say is that if you change the manager, we would go to a back four straight away and we'd have a midfield three straight away. YouTube says I'm in the top 4 % of viewers on this channel. Thanks for the content. Is Amrin making those subs to make a point about transfers in January, says Jabba. I hear this I heard this before mate like I've heard this before people start saying the manager is doing it on purpose to send a message well that message is going to get you sacked I genuinely don't think managers do things on purpose to get bad results because they'll get the sack so no he needs a midfielder in January but he might not be here in January I mean these games are perilous we said this in the last international break you don't tend to get the sack because you get beat by Chelsea or Arsenal.

37:59You get the sack because you lose to West Ham or Watford or Wolves or someone like that. So he's got some really perilous games coming up because Wolves on Monday, Bournemouth could come to Old Trafford and players off the park, if we're being honest. As bad as they are, they could. And then Villa and Newcastle away, you can't be losing to them. They're not meant to be beating us. So his next four games, he might not see New Year. I think he'll see Christmas, but he might not see a new year. Bring in Roy Keane, says Timothy. If Manu had started 10 games, well, actually, I tell a lie, he probably will still, you know, I'm acting like there is an ownership that actually wants to sack him.

38:38He could probably put us into 15th again and they wouldn't do it. That's assuming this football club would sack a manager for crap performance, no vision and crap results. Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe that the lowering of the standards by Ineos are so low now that they actually wouldn't change it. If Maynou had started 10 games in a row, he'd be one of the best in the league. Why does Bruno get away with shit performances relying on Bruno moments, says Matt? Red Stan says, you might as well be Amrim out then because as long as Bruno's here, it will always be him in the midfield and someone else.

39:10The defence work too hard. If Amrim gets sacked now, who do we go for? I've got no idea, AS. Morning Mark and legends. Barada and Wilcox are just clones of Arnold and Murtagh. Nothing has changed. If Amrim goes, they go too. Look, I've said this before. Will Cox has got no experience at all. He came in from Southampton after one year there and being a Man City youth coach. Barada was a COO, not a CEO. It's a football club that, let's be honest, could buy what it wanted. This is not the people that Man United need. I mean, why we've got a CEO from Man City makes no sense. Man City and Man United, you couldn't get two different clubs to run.

39:46Man City, it's about let's get these big sponsorship deals in. Let's spend, spend, spend. It's not the hardest job in the world, is it? Wilcox got no experience. I think they've recruited bad people there. I do. I do. I think I watched them at the end of the games and I've got no confidence. They may as well be the Chukul brothers. Absolutely nothing. Dumb and dumber. I really don't think they're best in class. I think, you know, you do need to look at those things as well. You do need to look at those things. Why are they qualified for the most difficult job in our history in the Premier League?

40:19You know, the club's on its arse and we bring in somebody that's just win, win, win at Man City with an open checkbook and someone with no experience. Darren Fletcher is in charge of the under 18s at the moment. We'll leave him out, Carol. Amrim Alters are misunderstood. Everyone thinks we love some of these players. Shaw, as an example, can't stand him, but Amrim said he's world class, says Haider. Jim has condemned us to another two years of this inconsistent, unidentifiable stat padded performance, says Josh. I tell you what should be front of house. I tell you what should be front of house.

40:49I forgot about this We're not in Europe this year And it's abysmal It's costing us money The players aren't adapting well to one game a week We're playing crap Europe has been Not being in Europe has been the disaster many of us thought it would be Some people thought we were going to cook Because we'd have all week off We're not cooking These players need two games a week So not being in Europe is killing us Where we are now We're not going to be in Europe next year I wouldn't say it's relegation form, but three points from Everton at home, West Ham at home, Spurs away, Forest away and Brentford away is not European form.

41:32Three points from those sorts of games is not European form. So as I sit here this morning in the middle of December, we won't be in Europe if this continues next season. So if there's anybody out there that could come in and stabilise this club and get us into sixth or win us the FA Cup, you know, as I say, something's got to change. You've either got to get Amrim in a room and say, whatever you're doing, stop fucking doing it because we need Europe. Or you go, you're not the guy and you make a change. Sitting there and hoping this situation is going to change, it's not going to change. Ruben Amrim needs to change that team now, specifically the midfield, or you need to change him and go back to a 4-3-3 because we need to be in Europe next year.

42:23We cannot be out of Europe for two years. And when I say Europe, I'm not talking about the Champions League. I'm talking about the bloody Europa League. Like we need to be in Europe. I'd rather play Kunja than Bruno in the midfield. He'd run, says Lev. Amrim needs to go, says Sal. The last two games have proved that Amrim lost it, says TH. Why aren't we talking about our captain? Shouldn't he be the one dictating play, encouraging the other players? He does the total opposite. I think most of us have woken up to that. Matt, he's a waste of space as a captain and he's out of position in the team.

42:54Default66 says, since Amrim came in, the standards have dropped at an all-time low. 280 million spent, a pre-season, a year in charge. He's got rid of eight players that were the problem last season and were still shit. Sevo says, I'm sick of it, Mark. I feel bad for my boy who's never even known half decent man United side. We need change. Not a minute for Maynard. I want to manage with conviction, but not stubborn to a fault. Change. Why didn't he prioritise a centre midfielder in the windows, says Kiel? I know. You know what's going to happen. So Jim will back Amram again. We won't spend in January.

43:25We'll finish 15th and Amram's gone in the summer, says Jim Jones. Why did he pick Angel over Lissandro and Lenny? poor subs as well but too cautious and always gets cooked says nah worst decision ever was keeping bruno in the summer you said it bruno shaw maguire delo casimiro all need to go but it seems like he wants them says mats and i feel our manager needs to be back through a complete squad rebuild but the players being sidelined and those being trusted will leave as hamstrung i think this is a great point by james i do agree that we need time and patience for a rebuild but where is the rebuild in the first year.

44:01Like, he's still using Luke Shaw, Bruno Fernandes, Casemiro, De Lowe. He's still using those players and he's sidelining younger players for the future. One billion debt and consecutive losses since COVID season, yet no urgency. We might go a second season with no Europe. I guess Amorim is bigger than Man United. Jim has been sabotaging for a cheap Man United, as my ad. I'm Amorim in if they back him in January and get him a midfielder or two. If not, it's irrelevant if we're either in or out. The team will sack him anyway, says Rajaf. Totally, Alfie says, Amrin was laughing at a reporter, suggesting Mainu as an attacking sub is disgusting.

44:38His disrespect to him and Dorgi was out of order. No respects. It's totally Alfie. And the change we need, I'll bring some of his comments in in a minute, actually. JC says, the change we need to make is getting rid of Bruno and getting a proper midfielder. Sacking the manager will change nothing. We need Stiller and Anderson. Yeah, but he's the manager who's doing that. I think that's the problem, JC. I agree with what you're saying again. A new midfield and removing Bruno makes us a better team. But only him in the history of the world is playing Bruno. He's done that. I'm not saying Agate's good, but would that midfield be better with Agate and Casemiro in it?

45:14Probably. Would that midfield be better with Manu and Casemiro in it? Probably. He's the guy putting Bruno in there. I don't think there's many people in football that would do that. So he's doing that. That has to be questioned. Rome wasn't built in a day. To me, it seems like he does care about the club. I'll back him until he succeeds or has shown the door. Amor him in, says Tom. The way he laughed when asked about Maynou being an attacking player was the final nail in the coffin for me. Has he not seen his vital goals, says Matt. Well, last season, many of you were saying that Maynou's a 10.

45:44So I haven't seen him laugh at that. But, you know, I did see him say, what attacking changes could I make? Well, you know, you could have used Maynou. You could have used Lacey. They are young, whatever, but you didn't need to take... He took Kunja off because of performance. I think that was stupid. Petulant. All right, Kunja might not have been having the best game, but did he not watch Liverpool in the last 10 minutes when we were holding on by a goal and he can hold the ball up and run the channels? I thought that was mad. And Xerxes was defending the front post well from corners and our only striker, so I would have kept him on, yeah.

46:23It was ridiculous. He cost us that game. We would have won it. if he hadn't made those stupid subs. Cameron says, lack of intensity is on the players. How many times did Amman travel 15 yards sideways and pass backwards because he was too slow to see the forward pass? Thank you very much, Cameron. Just catching up on your comments because there's been a few. I did my waiting, 12 years of it in Azkaban, Sirius Black. We've given the time and patience more than a decade. Things need to change now, says Tom. Fair point and a good quote. We're two points off top four, not even halfway done clearing the 10 hard draws, thinking West Ham is an easy three points.

46:56That squad is delusional, says Randy. Yeah, Randy. Crap performance, crap results, no vision. You can shove your two points up your arse. You know, Everton are three points off fourth. This league is shit. Two points off top four doesn't wash. That doesn't wash. That is the worst argument in the world. Two points off top four. So bloody what? We've taken one point from Everton and West Ham at home. We've taken three points from Brentford, Forest, Spurs, West Ham and Everton. We're playing rubbish football. The only thing that's identified... You know, when I think about Man United style of play, I see Deleu in a towel about to do a big long throw.

47:40That's all I think. No, sorry. Two points off top four doesn't wash. I'm sorry. Mark, if you was the manager with this team, what would you do? Sack the manager, get a new one. Then the manager don't get the players you want. We'd be back here again, says Armijit. If I was the manager... You said if I was the manager. If I was the manager, I'll go back four. I'll go back four. I'll go midfield three. And I'll go front three. That's what I'll do. I'll go four, three, three. I'll stop the bloody long throw-ins. I'll stop the long ball. I'll get the ball into the feet of Cunha as much as I can. And I will get down the flanks with overlapping fullbacks.

48:20We might be shit. I might be sacked after six months, but that's what I would do. It's very different to what we're doing at the moment. But I'd have a midfield three. Out of what we've got at the moment, that midfield three would probably be...

48:35I probably would play Mainu as the box-to-box. I'd probably sit Agate or Casemiro for now. And I'd play either Bruno or Cunha as the 10.

48:47Embermo off the right. I'm a bit stuck on the left because we've got no wingers. So maybe I'd put Cunha off the left. Maybe I put Ahmad off the left.

48:58Yeah, that's what I would do. Should we have stuck with Ten Hag, says Disson. Shoulda, woulda, coulda. I mean, we should have stuck with Mourinho. Rennie Mullenstein needs to come. No, he doesn't, Frank. Do you think in hindsight, Ruud could have been the better option? Oh, yes, Jack. I really think that Ruud van Nisseroy, the guy who went to Leicester and got sacked, would be the good option for Man United. I mean, yeah, it's getting worse here. You've said it from match day one, Mark. Most of them players are the same players that got 10 hogsacked. It's been over a year and no progress at all, says Totally Athletic.

49:27You know, you can't polish a turd. These players and the... Look at what's happening with Embermo. The culture in that club is the same. It's the same. Embermo levels are dropping. Cunha levels are dropping. You get dragged down at that football club. You don't get lifted. You get worse. because the senior leadership team are in charge and they drag you down. The best in class motto died really fast, says John. Thank you very much, John. Daniel says he's got to go. He has no idea how to make things work. If things aren't perfect for him, he has no knowledge other than three at the back. I think he's really struggling with the identity of what Man United's all about.

50:11And I think Ten Hag did as well. And I think it's really important that when and if we make a change, We need to bring somebody in that actually understands what we want at this football club. I don't think the owners understand it. So unfortunately, they'll be interviewing people and they won't be able to portray it. But we need, we're going to be very lucky to get it, but we need somebody. You know, like Klopp went into Liverpool and he got it. And Arteta went into Arsenal and he got it. We need somebody who comes in and gets it. And to do that, you've got to research. And how many times have we said this?

50:44you know Eric Ten Hag came in and ignored anything Oli had done and Ranić didn't want to talk to Ranić Ranić sat there for six months saying this needs to happen this needs to happen open heart surgery these players would be good Ten Hag came in and went yeah thanks for that bye didn't want to listen Amrim didn't want to look at the players that sacked Ten Hag in fact he's using them now every manager we get comes in even Mourinho with Van Gaal didn't want to listen I'm in charge. We keep bringing these managers in who are blinkered. They don't want to learn from the previous manager. And I don't understand why.

51:22If I take over a job and the previous manager's already been sacked, they're no threat. So me even looking at where it went wrong, or maybe even having a chat with them, but certainly looking, they don't want to look. They're so locked in on, I'm amazing, I'm amazing. They don't want to look and they don't want to look at the culture of the club either. Hi, Mark. Thanks for everything I've done. You're amazing ignore the hate and keep up the amazing work says plans i've got no hate i've noticed any hate this morning but i would ignore it anyway um nate says problem is that we are run and managed by people who don't get our club and don't feel the consequences of what they're doing they don't love the club exactly nate exactly was that the game it was a shambles and it's not changing soon says charlie i don't think it is i don't think it is going to change i honestly don't think it's going to change.

52:06I think the Everton game shocked me. The West Ham game, the equaliser shocked me, obviously. The electric eel did. But I feel like we are consistently playing bad football now. We're not a good team. The best thing that happened to Man United since Sir Alec is Ralf Ranić. Strategic transfers are all or once we build a unit, we sacked him at six months. Yeah, we never should have got rid of Ranić. The list of players that he was looking at, we never should have got rid of Ranić. The way he spoke, we never should have got rid of him. I don't know which idiots buy Cunha's knowing his style of play, driving with the ball at his feet and then putting Tom Brady Bruno publicly stating he plays long.

52:44I mean, Frank, I'm glad somebody said this. I'm glad somebody said this. Like, I'm so tired of people complaining about Cunha and then mis-profiling him. Like, I was talking about Cunha with you over a year ago and it was just a throwaway comment. And I said, you know what player I'd love at Man United, couldn't you? I love his passion. I love the fact that he's a match winner on his own. He gets the ball and he makes things happen. I'd love him at Man United. We then buy him and all I've seen for three months is as completely and utterly misunderstand what he is. It's a misprofiling of player again.

53:21It's like when we bought Juan Mata, we didn't know what to do with him. Put him on the wing. You know, Kagawa, the same. Mkhitaryan, the same. We've got a tremendous, tremendously bad hit rate on bringing in creative players in the number 10 position. And we're doing it again with Kunja. Like, we are not doing the things that make him good. Kunja wants quick ball into feet with his back to goal, and then he's off. He'll spin, he can control it, he'll run into space. What are we doing? Hitting balls over the head so he's bird watching or slowly building up so that when he gets it, he's got four or five players behind him, around him.

54:01He's not playing well, but we're completely wasting him. You put him back in the Wolves team, he'd be doing well again because there'd be loads of space on the counter. You put him in a Man City side, he'd do well because he'd get the ball quick. We're completely misusing Kunja, completely misusing him. And I'm glad that people are actually waking up to that because he's not playing well. But the people who are slagging him off and misprofiling what he actually is. He's not going to perform in a team like that where we're not getting the ball into him. Because you know why? Got too much focus on Bruno again.

54:33I would almost argue you can't have Kunja in a team with Bruno because Bruno's too similar in the stance that everything's got to go through Bruno. He's the guy, but Kunya's the guy as well. And then Ahmad wants to be the guy and Mbamo could be the guy. We've got too many people who want to be the guy and we actually need one or two people to be the guy and everybody else to feed the guy. And we're not feeding Kunya. That's the problem. Because Bruno's too... I'm the guy, you know? And he wants to hit long balls. All Things Manga says, Dan Ashworth said no to Amrim and got removed. If you're not part of the majority, they'll remove you and the majority don't know anything.

55:15Well, I think Dan Ashwood was a load of shit anyway, if I'm being honest. Even if we get into Europe, we aren't good enough, says Totally Alfie. And even the new players don't suit Amirim's system, says Roy. Sack Amirim, let him resign. We will be having the same chat next year this time. Eight managers since Raddix. It's the same song all these years later, says Rafi. The only thing that will definitively change the club is a change of ownership. But how do you get that? The club is a mess and recruitment has been abysmal. Since Ranić was here, 25 first-team players have come in and 25 have left.

55:43And here we are, says Ian Tracy. Have you seen the recent tweet from Indy Kaler about Ruben Amarim? Mate, you've just wasted£10 putting that in, DJ. Indy Kaler guessed on Balaba and that was it. I see their posts every day. Huge news at half ten about Liverpool and it's a load of bollocks. This reminds me of the end of Noel Hunt at my local club, Reading, with too many draws costing him his job in the end. Artak Gaming says, Morning, Mark. What are we really losing with Maynou? We were hesitant to move on from Ganacho and yet we don't look any better. It's atrocious. For me, this team doesn't move forwards until Bruno goes, says Stephen.

56:23Doesn't matter who the manager is or the formation. Mick says, I watch more Sir Alex games more than any other manager, but Sir Alex changed formation based on his opposition. We are so predictable. And Marlo says, we praise Amarin for clearing out the bad apples, but maybe that's just how low I'm hanging through. What if the leadership team is the real bad apples? Well, I agree with this. I agree with this. How many times have I said it? The bomb squad, hold on a minute, Malassia, Short and Sancho and Rashford and Anthony were all on loan from Christmas. Ganaccio was the only player that was consistently playing in Amrim's team.

56:58And yet that was missold as, oh, yeah. You know, that was just another PR spin bullshit bollocks, wasn't it? I mean, oh, look at Barada and Wilcox and Amrim. They're cooking. They're cooking apples here. You know, nonsense. It wasn't even the body. They weren't even relevant. They weren't even part of the team. And Gannaccio didn't even play in the Europa League final. So none of those players were anything to do with the Europa League final. Let me go see. Look, we might have a slightly longer show this morning. So if you want a slightly longer show, please do smash a like on the video. But I think we might be slightly longer.

57:34This is Paul Scholes on Instagram. Bullshit. The kid is being ruined, not being played in a team that can't control a game of football. Hate seeing homegrown players leave, but it's probably best for him now. Enough is enough. Yeah. And that's Paul Scholes responding to Amrim saying, I consider him a starter just like the other players, which was bullshit from Amrim. And I called that out 48 hours ago. Twice he said he's a first team player and yet he doesn't use him. He's destroyed him. so yeah absolute but look they've they've paced they've they've

58:17there's been a lot of people saying a lot of things after the game yesterday and you can't argue with any of it but this is what Amrim said after the game

58:29he doesn't talk to players until after the game I can't believe this he said he talked to the team the following day after the game. In that regard, I'm always consistent. I had one incident after the Brighton game last year, but I don't address the team until the next day. I mean, what bollocks is that? So if I watch my team not do what I want it to do, I don't speak to them until the next day until I've calmed down. That's like me saying to you, I'm not going to do a watch along or a match reaction anymore. I'm only going to do a morning show after the game. You're not going to get the best me, are you?

59:01You're not going to get the real me. You're going to get the me that's calmed down, you know, has had a sleep. I mean, that's ridiculous. If that's true, that's a joke. The manager doesn't speak to the players about a result until the next day. What a load of crap. I won't be, I'll tell you what, I won't be doing the match reaction until 24 hours after the result now. I mean, it's bullshit. That's bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Roy Keane says, show some intensity. Everyone was a bit too relaxed. We can't afford to be relaxed when we're leading 1-0. Finish the job. Man United have got better players than West Ham, but it's not a good team.

59:34You can't relax. It was the substitutions. Every player at Old Trafford now gets a standing ovation. Where are the standards at the club? Where are your demands on the club? Your expectations. You're waiting for something to happen and get the job done. Then you can relax at 3-0. And I think he's right. I think I think we've been and I'm part of it. I think we have been downtrodden and manipulated into people that accept these standards. I think if you'd said when Sir Alex Ferguson retired, we'd be finishing 15th, we'd be playing crap football with no vision. you know there'd be riots but they've gradually gradually um you know it's like it's like having a bowl of cornflakes right and you don't have any and every day you open the cupboard and go no one's had any but they take one away every day and eventually you don't notice that it's gone from three quarters full to half full and that's what the glazes have done to this football club over 10 years they've gradually lowered the standards to a point that we're not even aware of how low the standards have gone.

1:00:34Roy Keane's right. Where are the demands on this fan base? Where are the protests? We've never been as bad as we are now. Today, when has it been as bad as it is today? 15th last year, eighth again now. I don't think we've played football this bad over the last 12 months, even under Van Gaal, even under Oli. It's the lowest point we've ever been. And people are going, oh, well, you know, it is what it is. It's not what it is. It's not what it is. I don't know why it's like this, but it's not what it is. And as Roy Keane says, the fans are cheering everything these days. Where's your standards?

1:01:13Absolutely. Absolutely. Amram after the game, who would be more offensive? Mbermo has a lot of pace to win the ball in transition. That was my idea. Asked about his substitutions. He said he's frustrated. He's angry. That's it. And Roy Keane says they're facing Wolves next week. One of the worst teams I've ever seen in the Premier League. We'll see what happens. Amrim was asked if he regretted his substitutions. No, we are losing because of the second balls. We have more men to put into the offence. Who would be more offence? One of you said this last night, though. I mean, look, there's so many things we'd love to know about Man United.

1:01:49There's so many things we'd love to know. Why we didn't buy a midfielder? But why did we let Rasmus go? Was that on Amrim? If so, that's another reason to be very, very scrutinising of him. Rasmus didn't want to go. I know that for a fact. He wanted to stay and fight for his place. He fancied himself to be able to compete with Sesko and he was willing to start on the bench and give it a go. United basically said, no, we've got an offer for you. We don't want you here. When Rasmus was here, we didn't have a backup striker. So when you get rid of Rasmus and you bring Sesko in, you don't have a backup striker.

1:02:23We've now got a manager sat there going, I haven't got anybody else to bring on. You're telling me, do I regret the subs, but I haven't got anyone else to bring on. Why did you let Rasmus go then? Why didn't you replace Rasmus? Like Sesco, Rasmus, we had no backup last year. So we need two strikers. We don't have two strikers. Sesco is injured. We don't have two strikers. Why are we as a football club trying to get Europe, trying to get top five, but leaving ourselves in a position where an untested young striker like Sesko is the only solution. Zerkes is not a striker, by the way. Zerkes is not a striker.

1:03:03I wanted to bring this in. Have we got time? He said, I spoke to Lenny before, this was before the game talking to Gary Neville about Lenny Yarrow not playing. He said, I spoke to Lenny, not about leaving him about him out, but about the message. He's disappointed to be missing out, but it's a tactical issue. It is a clear option and a tactical option today. We need to win no matter what. So that was him dropping Yoro, dropping Yoro for a tactical reason before the game yesterday. And the question always has to be, if this guy is making tactical decisions on why he's picking players, why are we not seeing any tactical acumen in the team?

1:03:50I mean, I read that this morning. I thought I'm going to bring it into the show because it massively confuses me. Lenny Oro was not dropped. He was left out for tactical reasons. But then I'm watching a team hitting long diagonals and throwing long throw-ins, playing shit football, and I'm wondering what the tactics are. I mean, it's almost like the guy who thinks he can run when he can't walk. you know he's speaking in an interview about leaving players out for tactical reasons and then i'm watching a game with no tactics i don't i don't i don't know you know what i mean i wanted to bring it in for that because maybe i'm missing something he leaves euro out for tactical reasons and says that publicly and then we watch united again with no tactics i'm like what what tactics are you talking about mate you know i do understand sometimes you know you might put Casemiro's centre-back so that he can bring the ball out from the back and it gets you Agate in the midfield with more legs.

1:04:47That's tactical. I can understand putting Ahmad on the left wing for a natural left cross because West Ham don't like crosses from that side. That's tactical. But I don't understand leaving Lenny Yorou out for tactics and then we see no tactics. Yeah. Anyway, I think we're about there for now. I don't expect anything to come out from Man United, by the way, it'll be the same as Everton. You know, horrific result that's totally unacceptable. And then radio silence from the owners. That's what we'll get. But we have got Ben Jacobs on at two o 'clock. So I do want to get into him. Big questions. How safe is Amorim?

1:05:27Are there any plans in place? Because what I was told 10 days ago is that United have got nobody lined up if Amorim needs to be sacked, which leads me to think they won't do it. They'll stick with it. But I think that's what Roy Keane's talking about. By sticking with this, you're lowering the standards to a point where we just have to accept it. And at some point, there has to be some group of people that go, this is not acceptable. We're basically peasant. We're being dictated to by the Sheriff of Nottingham, who's basically saying, I will raise the taxes. You will live in shit. When did Man United become a dictatorship?

1:06:06Why have we got owners that won't do things for the football. They're just one billionaire basically is saying, all you millions of fans mean nothing. Your standards, your need for results and performance mean nothing. I'm in charge. I am the king. I am the dictator. And no matter how shit the team is, no matter how bad the performances are, I'm not going to make a change. That's where we are. That's what Manchester United is now. one person basically saying, no matter how shit this is, I will still keep them. I will still be in charge. And that's not football. That's not what Man United is. That's not the principles of Manchester United.

1:06:47We're basically in the clutches of a dictator saying, it's acceptable. This is acceptable. That's not Man United. Might work for fucking Nice, but not Man United. It's disgraceful. Amazes me how the stadium still gets packed as an eighth. Yeah, but it's good and bad, isn't it? It's amazing we have a fan base that loves the club so much and want to go and watch them. But it's amazing that we have no power, no skin in the game to make changes. Why is nobody talking about the fatigue factor of United players yesterday? First midweek game in months and they got tackled from behind while walking, says Mohamed.

1:07:22Well, they shouldn't be tired. Mark, my love, I agree we need better players, but we can't just want talent. Man United is the biggest club. We need good looking players too, says official Margot Robbie. No difference between the performances versus Everton, Palace and West Ham. The results were the only difference. I agree, Larry. I think we were crap. I actually think Palace first half was worse than Everton and West Ham. Give it to Glasner, says class of 99. You would have attacking options off the bench if you didn't shoehorn them all into the 11. Ahmad is not a wingback, says Dave the Brave.

1:07:56uh hi mark i got 0.2 percent viewer for the united stand and watched 1.1 thousand videos last year appreciate you mate thank you very much for your super chat a lot of people were talking about this on the watch along last night i've actually got my that's football youtube wrapped now so they've they're doing this thing on youtube now if you go on the app and then you click the you um tab it will give you your yearly stats so a lot of you have got united stand as your number one channel Some people have watched over a thousand videos in a year and you're in the top 0.3 % or 1%. So I find it fascinating.

1:08:30Fair play to YouTube because I've been doing that on Spotify for years, but it is interesting. So thank you for all your support. Incredible. A thousand videos. Wow. Come on the league, even though even Liverpool struggles, says Rios. What will it finally take to say I'm out, mate, says Mike? Like, you know what, mate? I really appreciate everybody who's watched this morning live or not. And I think in the main, the conversation has been the same. I feel very calm and I feel very pragmatic. And honestly, I'm very close to saying I'm out and I don't care. I'm not being guilt tripped by anybody.

1:09:10I'll have my own opinion and I'll do it right. and I think a lot of people are waking up like this this morning. The football is crap. The players that we're using have sacked so many managers and then, you know, why is he using them? And the results are crap and I don't see it changing. So to sit here and go, I'm Amram in is idiotic. I don't want him to get sacked. I think he needs midfielders. He has only been here a year and I do like him, but that's not enough. That's not enough. So if they sacked him this morning, I would go, well, I'm not surprised. They won't do it. I'd be surprised if they did.

1:09:45But I'm not sitting here going, oh, no, don't sack him. Don't sack him. Like, I'm really at the point now where I actually just don't care. I want to watch Man United be entertained. We are playing crap football. Long throwings are unforgivable. Long balls are unforgivable. The performances are unforgivable. The results are unforgivable. And I'm like, to be honest with you, Roy Keane's right. The standards of this football club, what we're basically saying is the standards of the football club at the moment fall way below the level they should be and there should be some accountability something's got to change ideally the owners need to fuck off but they won't so you know what i would say is though the big the big big elephant in the room is if you do sack hammer him does it get better and i think that's the problem isn't it that is the problem right we're back at two uh thanks everyone for watching busy day today um World Cup draw, Bundesliga, evening show, lots going on.

1:10:40Thanks everyone for watching. Take care. Some fantastic comments this morning. Ivan says, Amram's destroyed my life. Well, it's not really Amram. That's the Glazers, mate. It amazes me how they've still done that one from Nath. Take care, everyone. Stay safe. 58 % of you are Amram out. 42 % of you are Amram in. That has shifted. It was the other way last week. It was 60 % in and no, 70 % in and 30 % out. So that's a shift. That is a shift. Speak to you in a bit. Take care.

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