264: CHANGE IT! Players TURN On Amorim! INEOS Losing Control!

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1:57can, will and should Manchester United be letting Maynou go and making a big move in an area of the pitch that we know we are really struggling in. So good morning. Busy day for me today. If you're going to be on Mets Football, it's basically half past 12 to half past seven. Premier League watch-alongs all day over there. But the United stand will have an eight o 'clock show with me on it as well. So we are here servicing the best and biggest fan community in the world. And how are you feeling this morning? You know, your club won't do anything for you. They'll just come out with crap through Romano about backing the manager on what grounds.

2:31I don't know. Look, I appreciate that there is a lot of different opinions out there. That's the way it should be. Absolutely the way it should be. But as I've said to you yesterday, I'm not being guilt tripped anymore. I don't really care. I'm not bothered. Make your own minds up. I'm not here to influence yours. You make your own minds up. I'm not being guilt tripped. The club's on its arse. I've never known it so bad and I can't see a way out. So unfortunately, that means I'm going to be very vocal. every opportunity I get about the problems within this football club. And it seems to me that we're looking at players now who are doing what I'm surprised they haven't done already, to be fair, starting to question the manager.

3:09We saw Masrawi after the game on Thursday night, and I think it got missed in the result. He was asked the question about football being frustrating, and he said, yeah, it's more than sometimes though, isn't it? Because the question was, sometimes football is frustrating, and he said, yeah, it's more than sometimes now though, isn't it? And ultimately, I think the players are frustrated. Some of these players are top level professionals. Delitz, Masrowis, Kunyas, Embermos, even Bruno Fernandes, they're top level players playing for a football club that's, you know, an embarrassment. And I think, you know, we're probably not far off that point.

3:48I mean, look, you hear rumours. I'm not here to discuss rumours, but I thought the Masrowi comment was very clear. I thought the way the players behaved after the game was very clear. I think the way they've performed over the last few games has been very clear. They know the game, they've played the game and they know what it takes to make a change. When the fans are shifting towards Anrim out, and they are, they are, you know, whether it's 50-50 or it's beyond that, they are. It won't be long before the players go, hold on a minute, we're not taking the blame. We know what we need to do here.

4:19And I think when you look at that United side, I don't think a lot of them can play the way Amrim wants to play. Well, it's very obvious, isn't it? It's very, very obvious. And I do want to talk about the media. I thought there was a bit of a pile on with Amrim yesterday, which is just the typical media of Manchester United, which we'll talk about in a moment. But let's stick with this. I think this is a significant issue. I think that the way that the players are performing on the pitch shows you that they are very, very, very low IQ players, which we've seen before. Rangnick came in, abandoned his plan after half an hour.

4:54Ten Hag abandoned his plan. And Amrim hasn't abandoned his plan, but may as well as abandoned his plan because he does not have a squad of players that can do anything with any level of intricacy. I mean, these are players that can't even keep possession. They can't even beat a low block. And that was before he came in. So I would suspect that there is a lot of frustration in that dressing room because their performances are poor. They're getting it in the neck again and they will be looking for things to blame and they will start to blame the system. They will start to blame the formation. They'll start to be like, well, if we played a back four, we'd be happier.

5:30And those sort of conversations will be going on. I don't think Bruno Fernandes is particularly happy in the midfield either. I don't think he is. I don't think that, yeah, I don't think Embermo looks completely comfortable as a number 10. I think he'd rather be out on the wing. I think there's a lot of players in that team that are unable to operate within this system. and it starts to get to that point now with the results and the games that we've got coming up. I don't think we're there yet, but I think that another bad result, another big pile on, and I think you've lost. I think the players are gone.

6:06I think what we're getting now is players are starting to look at the situation and going, I'm not performing in this situation. The team's not performing. We're heading down a similar track. I'm out. And we've seen that before. That's why Oli lost to Watford. That's why Ten Hag lost to West Ham. That's why Mourinho lost to Liverpool, because it gets to a point where the players go, right, I'm out. Psychologically, I'm out. I don't need this shit. Obviously, it's my fault, but I'm not taking the blame. He can take the blame and we'll start again under another manager. And that is something that United fans cannot ignore because that's happened at this football club for years.

6:42And some of those players that have done that before have done it before, are still here. so I think it's all one thing saying why are why are Ineos backing Amorim should I back Amorim should Amorim be sacked all those conversations are relevant but the only people that are really going to make the difference are the players and they are really really incapable of playing to the standard of football that we want at the moment and and I don't think that's about to change anytime so I would very much monitor that and I thought what Maz Raui said after the game probably reflects a lot in the dressing room.

7:17I think they're starting to get frustrated themselves. And they're not robots. You know, I don't trust this squad. I don't trust this squad at all. But it would be a very unique situation if we had a set of players that didn't, like, think, I look shit in this system and I'm playing shit in this system and I don't want to play shit. You know, people want to go to work and be satisfied. And I think we're starting to see that frustration in the team now. Even on Thursday night, you know, Ahmad, I thought was OK. But watching it back, holding on to the ball for too long again. Definitely holding on to the ball.

7:59There was early passes into Mbermo that I think a month ago he was playing and now he's not. I don't know whether that's people overthinking it. I don't know whether that's people starting to get frustrated. but I do think that we are starting to see that frustration. Mark, not just Amrim's way to play this, Schauer can't play any style of football. Well, I think this is a very relevant point, Mr Saunders. I really do. I think that, I've said this before, change the manager, keep the manager, whatever happens, I don't think this is going to get any better. I mean, there is no manager in the world that's going to come in and suddenly get that set of players to play really well because they're not capable of it.

8:35They're just not. It's the open heart surgery that somebody spoke about. I mean, how many years ago did Rangnick say open heart surgery? It's scary. It's scary that from that point, we're still in the same position now. Guten Tag, Mark. Amrim won't play Kobe no matter what. That's why just let him go and bring another who Amrim wants and will play when it's needed, says Ayus. Well, let's talk about that for a moment because this is still a conversation that is on the lips of every United fan. We spoke about it briefly last night. I thought that Amarim's interview, honestly, Amarim's interview after the game on Thursday night and the way he did that laugh about Maynou has not gone down very well.

9:17I've watched it and I'm sort of like, he could be laughing because it's another question about Maynou from journalists that I thought behaved badly after that game on Thursday. They're not United fans. They're just baying for blood. And we'll talk about those in a moment. But you could defend Amrim on that laugh or you could be appalled by Amrim on that laugh. But the thing for me is the laugh is irrelevant. It's what he said. And I covered this last night, so I want to move on. But it's the way he said, well, I pick the team basically. And if people perform in training, then they're going to play.

9:52But two weeks ago, he said he was performing in training. And then he's like, Bruno's always fit. So that's why Mainu's not playing. And I'm like, but Bruno's shit in the midfield. So I just think like we're Manchester United and we've got a manager that's just been ridiculously stubborn. And you know what? I did think this about Maynou. Imagine if Maynou played on on Monday night and played really, really well. I think that damages Amarim anyway. I think he's damaged now. I think the way he's behaved over the last four months, he can't. The only solution for him is to somehow turn this around without Maynou, because if he brings him in and Maynou does well, Amrim doesn't recover from that either like I was listening to somebody a few weeks ago and they were saying he just needs to give Amrim a run he just needs to give Mainu a run in the team now and maybe a few weeks ago that might have been okay but I think now even if he did start picking Mainu it's not like everyone would go oh at last well done I think they'd go oh this is why he's rubbish look how long it took him to use Mainu four months we've wasted this season so I think it's point of no return between Amrim and Mainu anyway And Amrim's very stubborn.

10:58We saw what he did with Rashford. We saw what he did with Ganacho. We saw what he did with Anthony. And I think he was right to do all those things. But the problem with the stubborn manager is when they pick the wrong player to do it on. And maybe he is right on Maynou. You know, maybe Amrim gets sacked. Maynou plays in the midfield and everyone goes, he was right. I mean, some of those things did happen with Ten Hag. But the issue with the Maynou situation is that it just can't be resolved now. Somebody was saying that Maynou liked to post on Instagram last night. I don't know. I don't know.

11:25I haven't seen it. But I think that we have hit the point of no return. And I thought his interview, his answers to the questions about Manu on Thursday were almost farcical to the point like it was just like two people that don't want to talk to each other anymore. It was just like, I'm not, you know, it was playground stuff. And we're Manchester United. And we've also got that at the top of the club as well, haven't we? because we've now got an ownership model that picked Amrim, know they picked Amrim, know that if they sack him, they basically say they're incompetent. So we've got these two ridiculous scenarios now where we've got a manager that won't pick a player on stubbornness and an ownership that won't sack a manager on stubbornness.

12:08And I'm sorry, in any walk of life, in any business, in any relationship, stubbornness doesn't actually serve you well. It doesn't. It doesn't. I know people that have died not talking to family members on stubbornness. Well, they're not going to solve it now. That's not how it works. And back to football, though. Stubbornness is not the way to run a business, and it's not the way to run a football club, and it's not the way to run a football team. And that's the fundamentals of what we've got going on at Manchester United at the moment. So this is what Chris Wheeler has said overnight. He said, And Manu's hopes of leaving Manchester United in January depend on whether Man United can bring in midfielders this January transfer window.

12:50They obviously did block his departure in the summer because they couldn't get agreements with Belaber or Conor Gallagher. United do admire Anderson and Wharton, but could come back for Belaber or Gallagher and has also talked about Tyler Adams and Jao Gomez. So, again, you've just got this really, really strange situation whereby Maynou clearly doesn't have a future under Ruben Amrim and it can't be resolved. But the club might be so stupid as to say, we can't let you go because we're not buying until the summer. I mean, how ridiculous is that? it's like it's like being in a marriage with somebody that you don't want to be with but saying you know what you're spending Christmas with me because I'm not divorcing you till the summer because I want to start you know I want to lose a bit of weight for the summer and get a bit of a tan and some nice shorts and then I'm going to start looking to mingle but until then you've got to stay I don't like you I don't actually want to see anything I don't want you know we'll have separate bedrooms we'll eat separately we won't have anything to do with each other but You're staying till the summer because I want to get a tan and I want to lose a bit of weight for the summer because that's the best time to be single looking to mingle.

14:03It's not fair, is it? It's not fair on that person who is saying, I want to leave now. And you're going, yeah, I don't like you either. It's mutual. You can say you want to leave. Trust me. Your face makes me want to throw up. You know what? Your food's shit. Your personality's shit. I can't stand you. But we're not doing anything till the summer. and I'm not talking about Manu there I'm talking about the relationship analogy and I do think it's unfair I do think it's unfair if Man United say you're not going anywhere till the summer because we're not going to get a replacement till the summer that's just ridiculous so look I hope for his sake that he gets a move in January because they'll be queuing up for him but the question is can Man United bring somebody in and I do think you know what I almost want to whisper this but I don't do that I mean look Baz says Maynou's slow and has a weak mentality fine fine I like the alternative view I want to hear from the Amrim Inners as well but look I think like like Kaj says Amrim outers are acting like we're 19th we're two points off top four and doing better than slot Howe and Frank and that's why this football club struggles because we have people like Kaj whose standards have dropped so far that they come up with absolute nonsense like that So, Kai, you're basically saying we shouldn't be critical of Amrim because we're acting like we're 19th.

15:31We're two points off top four and we're doing better than Slott, Howe and Frank. Oh, thank you, mate. I feel so much better this morning now. Standards in the sewer. Standards in the fucking sewer. I cannot believe that people actually subscribe to that point of view. But you know what? I've had my say. It's the United stand and that stands as an opinion. And some of you might agree with it because that's how opinions work. So there you go. There are people out there saying I'm amoring in because we're not 19th. We're two points off top four and we're doing better than slot how and Frank. I mean, I would answer calmly and say we've taken one point from six at home to West Ham and Everton.

16:13we've played absolutely shite our number one identifiable attacking trait is the low in a towel throwing a long ball our football is atrocious our team is disjointed and there is no vision of this changing in the future I don't care whether we're two points off top I'd still be saying the same there is no sustainability there is no plan and the football belongs down the toilet with a big fresh turd I don't want to be two points off top four with this vision. I'd rather be mid-table with a bunch of kids playing good football thinking in six months we're going to be really good. I don't recognise your positivity, Kai, but some people will.

16:57I don't look at league tables and go, we're two points off four, because I guarantee you we're four points off 15th or something like that. So I'm sorry, it's not that basic for me. And it maybe isn't for some other people. When I look at Manchester United, the principles of Manchester United, what my granddad taught me about Manchester United, the Busby Babes, George Best, Dennis Law, all these players, is that we're not just a name. We're not just a football club. And the Ineosses and the Glazers of this world might want to make us into just a name, just a business. We're not. We're more than that.

17:37Manchester United is the greatest football story ever told. We have principles, we have standards, we have beliefs. We are not just a football team. Tragically, people died playing for this football team. We rose from that. We've had ups and downs. And we play a brand of football that gets people on the edge of their seats. That is it. Businesses have principles. Football clubs have passion. We are a passionate football club and we should be adhering to those things. Barcelona do it. Other football clubs do it. Why are we, as a football club, being allowed, and I think this is a great point, why is Sir Jim Radcliffe allowing Ruben Amrim to let this team chuck long throw-ins into the box?

18:29Why is he allowing them to hit long balls? Why is he allowing fans to turn up and be bored? Since when was that okay at Manchester United? And that's Glazenomics for you. That's what happens when a bunch of people who've got nothing to do with the football club who live on the other side of the world, who are business people, grab hold of your club and turn it into a franchise. We have lost our soul. Our soul disappeared years ago. I want that soul back. So I don't care if we're two points off fucking fourth place. I'd rather be two points off the bottom, building something for the future, playing good football, entertaining than where we are at the moment.

19:09Long answer, but there you go. I just don't know why we've lost that. I mean, forget your signings, forget Manu, forget Amrim, forget Ineos, why has Manchester United had its soul ripped out and flushed down the toilet? Like, is it so hard to say, whatever happens, we've got to get the ball down the wing, we've got to get crosses in the box, we've got to take people on, we've got to take risks, because that's what this football club is. And as part of that, we've got to be really good at promoting, developing and nurturing youth. And none of it's happening at the moment. Hi Mark, you're not far off.

19:45We're actually two points off 14th as well, says Stig. Yeah, there you go. People never look behind at the danger, do they? Umbros says, no matter how right it may be to fire the coach and sell the players, it's like fixing a window when the roof is leaking. And Kanna Dave says, under Sir Alex Ferguson, one loss was unacceptable. That should be our standard. Something has to change by January. And Ramazan says, they wouldn't cash in on Bruno, but they seem willing to cash in on Manu. Make it make sense. I mean, I think that is, Luke, thanks for being a member for three months. I think that's a great point as well.

20:16You have an opportunity in the summer to take£90 million for a 31-year-old that you're not even going to use in his best position. You say no because he's so important to the team. And then Maynou, who's 20, who's come through the youth, who is a very talented player, yeah, he can go. Again, it sort of flies in the face of what I was just talking about there before. But as I said, they've got to be able to let him go in January. Obviously, I want him to stay from a Man United point of view, but we can't treat a player like that. And also, I do worry. I do worry about the mental state of Mainou.

20:52Like, you know, they're not robots. He hasn't had that contract that he should have. Like he, you know, he's still on the contract that's not very good. So and people say, well, you know, still 30 grand a week. come on you know he's not had a new contract he's not getting game time he's almost being ridiculed now by the manager um i do worry about what we're doing to a 20 year old kid here i do and people will go oh come on he's living the life of riley he's um you know he's in a bubble he's a professional footballer he'll be absolutely fine maybe he will but i still do it still doesn't to me it still doesn't mean that the way that we've treated him is the right way um I don't think we have.

21:37Luke, thank you very much. If Maynou leaving is the condition to sign a midfielder in January, we'd all do it ASAP. This is media spin against Amrim. Maynou was bad last year, says Caleb too. Mate, if you want to back this manager at the moment, which you clearly are, that's absolutely fine. What some people don't understand is, and I said it after the West Ham game, I don't care what happens to Amrim anymore. I really don't. I don't care what happens. Ideally, he turns it around and we don't sack a manager. That's my stance. That's what I would like to happen. But how wishful is that thinking?

22:13If they sack him tomorrow, I would say, well, mate, you can't complain. You can't complain. I mean, I'd love you to complain and tell us the truth of what's gone on. There's no doubt you've had a few, you know, bad decisions go your way in relation to where's your midfielder. But maybe you didn't want a midfielder. Maybe you said, I don't want a midfielder. I'd rather keep Bruno. I don't know. But the reality is, his win ratio this season in the Premier League is virtually 40%. The football is atrocious and he's picking people like Bruno Fernandes and Deleuze out of position. I'm sorry, if he gets the sack, I've seen better managers than him get sacked in the last 10 years for less.

22:53Like you think about Mourinho, he got sacked for less. You think about Oli, he got sacked for less. And I would argue that Ten Hag got sacked for less. So if he got sacked, there was a great comment yesterday on X and I wish I knew the account. They basically said, for anybody that doesn't think the standards of this club are worse than ever, Amorim is sat there a year in with a record and a team that's performing worse than any manager we've sacked in the last 10 years. And I thought, hang it in the Louvre. You know, it's not wrong. But in fairness, he has only been here a year. So in a year, you know, has he been given a fair crack of the whip?

23:39You know, that is a fair point. As I said, the ideal scenario is that he somehow turns this around and we don't have to sack a manager. The dream scenario is Ineos and the Glazers piss off and we get a proper owner in that, but that's never going to happen. As I say, I don't see a pathway out of this. I see another Solskjaer coming in. You know, it could be a Southgate. I don't know. We play really basic football and get results. And some of you will love that. But I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. Mainu just doesn't have the quality to play in the Premier League. We should cash in and invest in a world-class wingback instead, says Enchanted Angel.

24:18I find this Mainu doesn't have the quality to play in the Premier League thing absolutely laughable, right? And I'll tell you why. There's only one person you're trusting on that opinion, and his name is Ruben Amrim. So that's fine. That's fine. But who is it that's telling us that Manu is not good enough for the Premier League? With his actions, it's Ruben Amrim. He won't use him. So some of you agree with that. Oh, he's slow. He's not good enough for the Premier League. So you agree with Amrim, the manager of Man United, that Manu is not good enough for the Premier League. some of us go well hold on a minute he's 20 he's going to get quicker and better and stronger that's factual that's just basics you know as you get older from 17 to 22 you get stronger and quicker and everything like that unless you've had a really bad injury so Manu's not good enough to play in the Premier League apparently but 18 months ago he was playing holding midfielder for Manchester United and England so he clearly is good enough because that wasn't a dream it actually did happen so what you're basically saying is you agree with Mainu you agree with Amrim that Mainu's not good enough to play in the Premier League despite the fact that he was and he's only 20 that's fine and well and you might be correct and I'm not sitting here saying you're going to get proven wrong my issue with it would be is that you are trusting a guy that picks Bruno Fernandes in midfield every week, who in about 14 games as factually had about nine, five or below out of six.

25:58So shit. And also puts Deleuze at left wing back, who's not even a very good right wing back. So you're asking me to agree with Amirim on Maynou when I don't agree with Amirim on Bruno and Deleuze. Maybe the guy's got it wrong on Maynou as well. All I'm saying is maybe the guy has got it wrong. Why should I trust Amrim on Manu? You know what worries me is that Manu gets in this team and absolutely proves him wrong, or Manu goes on loan and absolutely proves him wrong. And I cannot judge Manu until he's given that opportunity either in our midfield or at somebody else's football club. And anybody who says, well, he played against Grimsby or he played half an hour here or there.

26:48Look at Xerxes. Xerxes, his first game against Everton was shit. Absolute shit. And I said, don't judge him. He's hardly had any football. He won't be match fit. First half against Crystal Palace, shit. That's a game and a half where he was miles off. Second half against Palace and against West Ham, a lot better. so if Xerxes needs a game and a half to start getting up to speed with things then why doesn't Maynou need a game and a half to start getting up to speed with things and actually he's playing in a harder position because he's playing in the midfield so until he gets game time I don't think you can judge Maynou uh your thoughts on Pochettino says Umbrose I never wanted Pochettino I never wanted Pochettino because I wanted Ten Hag and I stand by that but I don't know I don't know I don't know look I take Pochettino over Southgate.

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29:04He sounds like a fucking broken record. Thank you, Sam. And Hollis says, so we'll put up with the Glynios for 10 years, but a manager comes in, gets three or four players. After we all said six or seven, he sat Casemiro for months as well. It'll come. And Manu just said, look, you know, interesting, interesting. And look, as you'll notice, I don't sit here telling you that any of you are wrong. And actually, in relation to Amrim, I've got to say, the press conference after the game for West Ham, I actually felt sorry for Amrim because I don't actually think these journalists have got the best interests of Man United at heart.

29:43I think they've got the best interests of their editor and that's the only thing they're interested in. And some people were championing some of these journalists for going in on Amrim on Thursday night. But you know what? I actually I've got no respect for those journalists at all because it's always the same with them. It's very basic and they're just looking to, you know, trip up a manager. The reality is none of them ever say anything about the Glazers, nothing about Ineos. It's always about the manager. I've not I've not seen a decent article written about Ineos or Glazers for months from any of these journalists.

30:19they're just pile on merchants and at least the conversations we have here there are people having a very serious conversation about amrim but it's always balanced with you know there's a bigger problem at this football club so these journalists when they get amrim in a room and they all gang up on him and start you know going on and on about you know oh you said that word i mean there was a question about him saying a certain word a number of times and i thought hold on a minute I'm not happy with Amrim. And a lot of you aren't happy with Amrim. But let's not forget this is not his first language.

30:53We had this with Ten Hag as well. Sometimes when you're speaking a foreign language or a second language, you use words that we don't use as a filler, as a bit of time to think. Because when I'm talking to you now, I'm not thinking. English is my language. It's what I was taught as a baby. It's natural to me. There are no pauses. There's nothing. If I was speaking to you in Portuguese, I would be having to think about what I'm saying because it's not my first language. So I thought the pile on on Amrim on Thursday night was poor, really, because there's better questions that could be asked. And also, there's never a question about why you didn't get a midfielder in January.

31:35I mean, you know, if I'm in that press conference on Thursday night after the game, I can go along with the crowd and go, why aren't you picking Maney? Why aren't you picking Maynou? Oh, you've said that word a lot of times. Or I could just go, Ruben, I've got a question for you. Obviously, results are not acceptable. You're under a lot of pressure at the moment. The midfield is a really key issue. I know every one of my colleagues has asked you about Maynou. But can I ask you, clearly you're using Casemiro and Bruno every week. You don't use Agate and Maynou. Why did you not buy a midfielder in the summer transfer window?

32:07You know, Belaba, you were in talks with apparently, Conor Gallagher. But why was a midfielder not bought? Was that your decision? Oh, my God, you've just dropped the best question in the last six months that every United fan wants to know. I've got another two as well. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You shut up about me. I want to know, Ruben, again, why didn't you buy a midfielder in the summer transfer window? And was that your decision? Because ultimately it looks like a really bad one. Let's get your answer to that. I mean, it's just bloody easy, isn't it? It's easy. Oh, also, I've got another one as well.

32:42Sesko, arguably not your first choice striker. You can answer that one if you want, but we know that you tried to get Liam De Lapp, Joca Rez, Eketike. Sesko, very inexperienced, needs time. Why is he your only striker? He's injured now, you don't have a striker. Was the decision to let Rasmus go when he would have stayed and fought for his place a bad one? And was that yours as well? and also can I just ask why Lemence who's come in and done really well why did you only sign him on the last day of the transfer window was that a panic signing because you dropped points not having a proper goalkeeper was it your idea to not get Ananda replaced until the last day of the transfer window or was that the club as well you know these are questions that would be very interesting to know when our manager is on thin ice.

33:35And there's loads you could ask, loads you could ask. But we don't ask those questions because we get these bloody playground journalists who just go after the most basic thing. I mean, they should all join Lockhurst at The Sun because it's just crap journalism. And there is so much they could be asking about Ineos, about the Glazers, about the state of the football club, because I know for a fact and you know for a fact that there's multiple people very unhappy at that football club about how it's being run the very basics are and this has to go hand in hand with Amrim we've had a shockingly bad transfer window in relation to we've still got a lot of players that should have been moved on we didn't do anything about the midfield the goalkeeper thing was very very late there is no backup striker so this summer transfer window that we cooked in we definitely didn't why did that happen we've got nearly a billion pounds worth of debt.

34:28We're not in Europe. We're nowhere near Europe this year. The football is crap. Senior players on the leadership team, I wouldn't trust them to make a bloody cup of tea at the moment. They're useless. So everywhere you look at that, there are no young players coming through. There's no great talent in that team. what are the positives about Man United at the moment? You know, and not even like, oh, it's okay. Like, what are the big positives about Man United and what are the negatives? And I'll tell you now, you're building, the negative tower is like the Empire State Building and the positives, you know, it's like a mine.

35:11You're going down, like you're digging, trying to find them. But the negatives are stretching out high in front of us. There's no positives around Man United and there's a massive list of negatives. And I tell you what, an analyst would look at Man United with no passion or emotion and go, well, this is only going to go one way. You've got a huge pile of things that are really bad and you've got no positives. So if you think you're going to move up the league table, I'm sorry, you've got to remove your negatives and build some positives for that swing to happen. It's like a set of scales, right?

35:58This side is the positives and this side is the negatives. And the only way that's going to go up is by removing negatives and then the weight starts to balance out. It's so logical. And you do get people who go, we're only two points off fourth. We're doing better than Thomas Frank. I mean, is that what Man United is now? Two points off fourth FC. Better than Spurs FC. I mean, we used to be a club, even in the late 80s when I was a kid, first getting into football. You'd start the season thinking maybe this could be United year. That's just the way it was. This is the first season in my life I started it and went.

36:44It's the first season in my life I've never put us in the top four. And that wasn't being sensationalist. That's the first season in my life I've sat there and gone, we're not getting top four. That's not even in our parameter to do that. I mean, God, what happened to this football club? Bradley says, I want Ancelotti. is the don, the aura, builds with the tools in the shed instead of the tools in the shop. Also would sort out the players' egos. Caleb says, such good questions. If we were Bayern, we would know the answers to these types of questions because the owners have the nuggets to face the media.

37:15The reason they don't ask the question right is because I could be journalist A at a credible outlet who has a very good relationship with the club. Money might be changing hands. I don't know. You know, certain news outlets do pay for information. I am not allowed to ask anything that's going to cause a problem with that relationship. I will get the sack. So I cannot do anything other than within the parameters of what suits the club and my newspaper. that is client journalism most journalists in football are client journalists now and what client journalism is we've got a bit of information for you to put out oh thanks thanks so much thanks so much uh in return we'll give you an interview with this player brilliant thank you and that that's all we get now we don't get proper journalism at a time where football needs proper journalism there's so much going on so much going on fifa uefa premier league man united but We don't get proper journalism anymore.

38:21Why can't you send Beth in with good questions? We're not allowed into the press conference, mate. I don't know where you've been, but we're not allowed into Premier League press conferences. Yeah, it's a closed shop. Let's get rid of Ruben. Keep these players. Give them a new system. Let Manu play every game. Player power came back. It's done as well for a decade, says Raphael. If the owners spent the dollar needed, Amron would be flying, says Ross Stephen. Class of 99 says, Does it only apply to Maynou? We can say Rashford and Anthony proved him wrong. Some just using Maynou as a stick to beat him with.

38:53I'm Amrim out regardless. Thank you very much. Since you already called him a mistake on X, just own it and say Amrim out. Isn't Fence sitting a bit hypocritical, says Kai. Oh, Kai's come back. He stood up again. He got sat down so much with his low standards. This is the guy that said we're only two points off fourth. Things are improving. We're doing better than Howe and Frank. He's come back. He's got a bit of bite. He says, you called Amrim a mistake on X. Own it and say Amrim out. Isn't fence sitting a bit hypocritical? Mate, I've been doing this for 10 years. If you can explain why I'm sitting on the fence, then I'm more than happy to justify it.

39:29But I've done three videos since West Ham and in every single one of them, I've explained my stance very, very clearly. I don't care if Amrim gets sacked. I don't care. I'm not bothered. If he did get sacked, I don't think anybody could be sympathetic to it. however my preference would be that we don't sack another manager and by some miracle he turns it around that's not sitting on the fence that's just me not saying two words that I find very very basic I don't I don't actually think saying Amriam out does anything because a lot of people who are Amriam out you'll ask them who they're going to get as a manager and they go I don't know I'm just angry.

40:08So, you know, I like a little bit more depth to what I'm saying. I'm absolutely fed up of the football club. I'm absolutely fed up of Amirim. I'm so fed up of how we play football. I'm so tired of those players. But I don't blame Amirim exclusively for it. You know, I'd sack Bruno Fernandes before I sacked Ruben Amirim. I'd chuck the Glazers and Ineos in prison before I sacked Ruben Amirim for crimes against this football club. So I don't sit here getting any joy out of shouting Amram out because I don't blame him exclusively for the problems. I think he's a symptom of a disease that will continue long after he's been removed.

40:50You know, you can remove the tissue, but you won't remove the cancer. And the cancer is not Ruben Amram at that football club. So I don't really get a lot of satisfaction out of saying sack a manager. It might need to happen. I think it probably will happen, by the way. But my dream would be that he turns it around and we start playing good football. Do I think that's going to happen? I think that's very wishful thinking. Do I care if he gets sacked? Well, he probably deserves it. That's not sitting on the fence, mate. That's having an in-depth conversation, which somehow you do not seem to be able to understand.

41:25But that's not my problem. And I won't be guilt tripped into whatever it is you think. Does it only, we've done that one as well. Kai, thank you very much for your super chat, by the way. Today, Delo said he sees Maynou as a United captain. I saw that totally, Alfie. So Delo said that he thinks that Maynou is a future captain of Manchester United. I mean, if you ever, ever, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't get into a car with Delo. With decision-making like that, I just, I wouldn't get into a car with him. I mean, what is he talking about? You know, the guy that's giving you a career will not pick Mainu, but he's a future captain for Man United.

42:02I mean, the guy's so bloody clueless. I mean,

42:10Amarim is giving you a career. And then you've just gone and said that Mainu, a player he doesn't want to give a career to, could be a future captain. Well, I hope you get dropped on Monday now for that. What three questions would you ask Amarim and Sir Jim Radcliffe? Well, I've just done about three there, Old Trafford. Sir Jim Radcliffe, I wouldn't even bother asking a question now. I think after two years, I know the answers. I'd have asked him some questions in the first six months. I've got no questions for Sir Jim Radcliffe. It's his problem to prove us wrong now. At the very start, I'd have been very interested about, you know, when are Man United going to be back on top?

42:49Are you going to spend on a team that needs spending? Those sort of things. I think two years down the line, it's very, very clear to me that Sir Jim Radcliffe is a glazer puppet. it's very very clear to me that the only win there is to build the stadium and make a lot of money that's all they're interested in and it's very clear to me that he's got absolutely no clue about running a football club look respect to what he's done he's a billionaire from nothing and he's clearly an expert in the field that he chose but the three i don't need to ask him any questions because in my opinion it's all about building the stadium he's a glazer puppet and he's got no clue about football.

43:27So why would I ask him any questions just to get lied to? You know, that's where I sit on that. Victoria says, it's funny how you behave to me when I told you about Amrim and his awful tactics. No progress, no performances. He's truly an awful coach.

43:50I can't think of an answer. I can't think of an answer, but I don't have all the answers. he's been here a year. Pardon me, in his first six to eight months going, he needs a summer transfer window, he needs a pre-season. I think since the start of this season, I haven't really spoken about anything other than he needs to start delivering results, and I think he will. But obviously that's wrong.

44:19But I do think there was a pile on at the end of the season that I wouldn't acknowledge as being, I told you so, because I do think he needed a summer transfer window and I do think he needed a pre-season. It hasn't worked, but I still stand by that. He has been lucky with all the other teams' inconsistencies, Liverpool being one of them. Without that Liverpool win, he would have been gone, says Mr B. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I think we're all, I mean, God, if you think, I mean, this is nothing. This is just natural debate. I haven't got a problem with it. You know, I actually enjoy what Kai said.

44:54I like what Victoria says. I enjoy it because it means that people have different opinions. I haven't got a problem with it. You know, it might get a bit heated, but ultimately we're just we're just we're just competing with our own opinions, which which is what should happen. You get on yourself on X at the moment or Twitter. It's a bloody cesspool. Like it's a horrible, horrible situation. But as I said, I think the truth will set you free. And since West Ham, I'm like, I'm not being guilt tripped. I'll say it again, I am not being guilt tripped. I have my own opinions and I'm going to give them.

45:24And if you don't like them, create your own. But I actually feel like I really wish this could turn around. I really wish it could work. It's the best scenario. Of course it is. It costs us less money. We start winning. Everything moves in the right direction. I wish that would happen. But the reality is if he got sacked tomorrow, I can't sit here and go, he didn't deserve it because we're Manchester United and there should be standards and we have no standards.

45:58So, but do I think it would get any better? Not to the level I want it to get to. Not to the level I want it to get to, really. Viiple, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you very much. Daniel says, I'd get rid of Bruno Delo, Shaw, Casemiro, Maguire, Mount before getting rid of Amorim. Main problem will always be the Glazers and Ineos. And that's the problem, Daniel. And that's the sympathy I have. I'd get rid of a lot of players and certainly the Glazers and Ineos before I got rid of Amrim. Absolutely. But that unfortunately is not how it works. When things go wrong, you keep a manager or you sack a manager.

46:34They're always going to be the thing that gets removed. I want half that team gone. I want these owners gone and they deserve to go before the manager. I mean, the Glazers have sacked every single manager. They're still here. the players have sacked every single manager some of them are still here how is that right how is it right that it's always the manager that goes and not the people who make the decisions or perform on the pitch but that's the stupidity of this football club we just keep sacking the managers when actually we all know the real problems but we can't remove the real problems and i wish we bloody could but we can't we can't and i see a lot of people saying that don't sack Cameron, get rid of these players, get rid of these owners.

47:14But we have no say in that. We can't do it. So the choice is stick with the manager or bring a new one in. And it's not fair, but that's just the way it's going to be until we get a miracle. I also find it sad that people have revised opinions on Mainu. He's one of the brightest graduates and he's truly gifted. I hope he stays and can flourish in the midfield three. This guy bossed it for England. And Victoria, I think you're absolutely spot on. I think the midfield three is part of the problem. There aren't many midfielders in the modern game that can play in a midfield too. I also think that there's a valid point to say there's not.

47:50I remember this being said by Pedro, the sporting journalist right at the start. And he said, it's worked really well at sporting, but I think he called it a positive, but a negative as well. He said, if Amram gets his system working, it's really, really good. But the profile of player for the system is very unique. Well, we don't have a free pick in the European market. We're not big enough to do that. So I don't think there are many wide players in European football or world football that can play his system. And also, we're not a football club that can just go out and buy them. I mean, I look at someone like Mendes at PSG.

48:37I think he'd be perfect for the left-hand side for Man United. But you can't just go and buy him. So if you play 4-3-3, there's loads of left backs. There's loads of right backs. But if you play the way Amrin plays, there isn't loads of those wide players that need to be good going forward and good defensively. There's not loads of them. And they come at a premium. So again, I would say this is part of the mistake, Kai, because we have owners that looked at Amrin before they appointed him and went, that's the guy. And this is what we said when we appointed him. I'm quite surprised because he doesn't play a 4-3-3 but if they're bringing him in they must have half a billion to spend and they didn't they didn't Amarin was a very exciting appointment if you had the half a billion to build the team we didn't have the money we didn't have the money which goes back to what I said loads of times I think they just went he's a good manager, that'll work and they didn't realise it's like getting Lewis Hamilton and going why aren't you driving fast?

49:33well where's my Ferrari? you know we didn't get we didn't understand that good manager doesn't mean good team. There's a reason he was a good manager. You've got to give him the ingredients. I mean, we haven't. And the wing, the wide profile, that's very unique in his system. Very unique. If you're playing a 4-3-3, if you're Liverpool, you've got Salah on the right, Gakp on the left, and you've got Robertson and, you know, Bradley behind them. Even Man City, you've got two people ahead of your fullbacks. In a United system, the wide player's got to do both roles. How many players in world football can do that?

50:12You might be able to name me 20, but how do we buy them? And also, I think in the midfield, playing in midfield two is very unique. And most players are used to playing in a midfield three. So we're not just trying to build a team on the cheap. we're trying to find very very niche profile players of which they're not we need Man United need players that there's loads of them because we can't go and pick from the best we can't pick the best apples from the tree so we've got a manager that plays very unique players where there's not an abundance of them we don't really have the money to get them and most of them are unattainable anyway and it's a problem the 3-4-3 is a problem the system is a problem because without the players it doesn't work and finding the players isn't easy.

51:02But that's on Barada, that's on Wilcox, that's on Sir Jim Radcliffe, that's not actually on Amrim. Amrim's at Sporting doing his job. Man United come along and say, we want you. They sell him the dream. He comes in and they've not thought it through. Where are the two midfielders that can actually play Amrim's system? We haven't got them. Where are the two wide players that can actually play Amrim's system? We haven't got them. Have we got the three centre-backs that can play a system? We've got a kid in goal. We've got a kid up front. I mean, there is a very valid point to say Amrim deserves to lose his job.

51:43But there's a very valid point to say he never should have got the job in the first place because these owners just haven't got a clue what it takes to build an Amrim side. And that would be my big statement of the morning is that we're never going to get him the players he needs. He's never going to have the players he needs because we're not going to get them. So why is he here? And we can all blame Amrim for this, that and the other. For me, if he is to go, it's because it's not working and it's never going to work. It's not because it couldn't have worked. It's because it's not going to work with these owners because they don't know what they're doing.

52:21But again, that's too niche for some people. This is why I don't like the words hammer him out, because it's just so it's two words. It's not layered. And it's just very get him out. You know, if he's to be sacked, it will be because we're about six players short of what he absolutely needs in his system. You need two midfielders that can play that system. We don't have them. You need two wide players that can play that system. We don't have them. And they are ridiculously niche. most teams play with a midfield three. Most teams play with a wingback and a winger. We don't... Where are these players?

53:01And secondary to that, where's the striker that can play this system? Because I don't think it's Sesko. There's too many problems that they're not going to solve. Caleb says, I missed my chat earlier, I think, but what about... What is your KPI for Amrim now? Because it was touching distance of top four by Christmas at the start of the season. Um, mate, I actually, can I be completely, I don't care. I don't, I don't, at this moment in time, I do not care because, you know, win games would be great. But I just don't see, I don't see this situation improving. We're just so far from where we need to be.

53:44I don't see it improving. I just don't. All I want at the moment is Manganite to win games. you know that's the only positive I can find but major you know looking forward positives I don't see them I don't see how we're going to get any better we've got the Empire State building of negatives and we've got no positives that to me is not going to change while that pile is that big and I mean look if we can win if we can win games of football somehow it's always going to be a you know a positive but I can't see any vision I can't I can't it's like he's sending a team out to try and get a result and we should be more than that so unless there's some big signings coming in in January which I don't think there will be I don't see the situation improving look one thing I would say is Ineos don't want to sack him if they don't want to sack him I would be saying to them you're going to have to sack him at some point.

54:39This is only going one way. And the only way you get him out of this is by giving him the players he needs. Now, have you got the money to do that? If they went out and bought him two or three players in January that instantly come into that team and make it better, there might be a chance. But I don't know whether they'll do that. Cantona made his debut this day back in 92, says Sound Dog. Oh, it makes me sad. You know the underlying issue which has started to creep in again is toxicity. I may be wrong, so Sanch, what's toxicity, mate? Like we're losing games, we're playing shit football. Is toxicity just not reality now?

55:13It's not toxic. I mean, I think some people just throw words around and they don't think. It's not negative and toxic to be moaning. That's standards now. You're confusing toxicity and negativity with reality and standards. Like it's not toxic to be moaning about playing shit football with a shit team and losing and not winning. But that's not toxic, that's standards. Toxic would be being second in the league, three points off the top, playing good football and people moaning about not being top. You know, Arsenal fans do that. That's toxic. You know, when you're finishing second and you're still moaning about stuff, but you can see the progress.

55:51Like we've got no pro. That's not toxic. I don't think. I think it's, you know, people have just had enough. We've never been as bad as we are now. I don't think. I know you want what's best, but we need to trust the manager. No, we don't. no we don't trust his earned mate you you can trust the manager if you want you can trust the the owners if you want don't tell me i've got to trust the manager oh why why are you overlooking amrim stubbornness says tillak i i'm not about half an hour ago i literally spoke about his stubbornness being a massive problem i find it farcical that our youth players don't play the first team system says average i mean yeah i agree completely agree um

56:34uh mbappe boy says i know you you know what wants what's best but we need to trust the manager and he decides main is not good enough and we need to go with it it's not going to change well absolutely i've answered this question we don't need to trust the manager on menu because if you trust the manager on menu do you trust the manager on delo at left wing back chucking long throws in. Do you trust Bruno in the midfield? Exactly my point. I would trust him if there was a reason to trust him, if he'd earned that trust. But he's not earning the trust, is he? Hope you're well. Mark, a United stand always a great show, says Daniel.

57:04Fact there's doubt about beating Wolves, says it all, says Kiel. Sam says Bruno is the problem. Awful against West Ham and doesn't work. Why isn't he getting dropped? Maybe Bruno's the manager, Sam. Maybe Bruno's the real manager. Nick says United fans are ridiculous and I'm one. Four weeks ago, the club was turning around and on the move. Now we're firing again. Where was Arteta year one? No, Nick, in fairness, I think that's you and some. Remember after the Spurs game, which was over four weeks ago, I went mad and people said, you're being too negative. So I'm not being in that club of four weeks ago saying the club was turning it around.

57:40I distinctly remember me and some others after the Spurs game going mad saying, here we are again, light switch FC. We're not going to amount to anything. it's the same old problems creeping in. So some people were saying we're back and talking about haircuts and stuff. Some of us were like, nah, I don't think we're back at all.

58:01We can't, look, we're all entitled to opinions and thank God we all have different ones. You can't just chuck an entire fan base and say four weeks ago we were all being really positive and now we want to sack a manager. I think some people were being really positive and are really less disappointed. and I think some people were saying I can see the signs of last year creeping in and we're now going, oh yes, we were right. Question for Amri Minners, says Theo. Will you be Amri Mao if we don't beat Wolves?

58:33I'm not worried about Wolves. The three games that worry me the most are Bournemouth, even though they're shit, Bournemouth, Villa away and Newcastle. Those three games, we have to beat Wolves and I think we will beat Wolves, but Bournemouth, Newcastle and Villa they're the three games that worry me the most because I mean if we can get four wins in a row happy days but I don't think we will the Glazers were blessed with Sir Alex Ferguson now expect every manager to be him says Old Trafford Malik what if he gets four players and we still play long dead balls and throw-ins what if his system and tactics don't work in the league very good question LZ what is his style of play in the Premier League I know what it was at sporting but maybe he's never going to do that Kai says inconsistency is part of growing pains but we're not inconsistent, mate.

59:20We're not inconsistent. We're very consistent. We're playing shit football with no vision and we're getting bad results. That's consistent. That's not inconsistent. It's consistent in something we don't want, but it's consistent in my opinion. Right. Thanks everyone for watching. I've got a very busy day today, but we have got an eight o 'clock show. Saturday night live at eight o 'clock. United stand but drop in and out on That's Football today I'm live for Villa against Arsenal half past 12 I'm live for the 3 o 'clock Sunderland at Man City at Chelsea go to Bournemouth Spurs play Brentford and then half past 5 Leeds against Liverpool so it's a very busy day on That's Football if you're watching all three with me great if you're watching one or two great tune in but we will be back at 8 o 'clock as well thanks everyone for watching fantastic show this morning thoroughly enjoyed it make sure you're subscribing to the video and smashing a like.

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