280: HUGE Transfer Blow!

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1:21It's off apparently. Also, Semenyu, is that on or off? We've got some updates on that. Bruno Fernandes, injury latest. We'll talk too about that. A little bit more about Amrim's transfer policy, whether you like it or not. Well, I don't, but some of you do. Also, we'll be talking about success for me, for McTominay and for Rasmus winning the cup in Italy last night. A brighter future than Manchester United. Is that something that's on the agenda again? I don't know. But look, lots to get into this morning. Hope you're doing well. it was the night before Christmas, Christmas, Christmas Eve, if they want to call it that.

1:56Probably going to give it 10 years and we'll be giving presents out for this. But on that context, Solid Blake says, Merry Christmas, Mark, and all the United Stand team, the brilliant mods and the great community we have here. Here, here, Merry Christmas to everybody. Okay, let's start off. I do want to talk about Semenyu. This is what Fabrizio is saying. More contacts took place with Semenyu and both Man United clubs who presented their projects, ideas and financial opportunities to the player. Liverpool at the moment have not properly entered the race. That's from Fabrizio. We'll talk about that in a moment.

2:27But first of all, I want to start off with this story coming out from Sky this morning. Maynou is set to stay at Manchester United in January due to Bruno Fernandes' injury. Now, what are your thoughts on this? I almost want to

2:44run a poll on this. Should Maynou stay? Yes or no? If you're watching live, let us know. If you're not watching live, put a comment in. I find this ridiculous, right? Because, so let me get around this. If Bruno Fernandes doesn't get injured, he plays every bloody minute of every game, yeah? And Maynou gets ignored, right? But the minute he's injured, Maynou gets used. So I'm sort of like, hold on a minute. You basically took the kid to the brink mentally. You know, you've basically made him feel worthless, you know. And now, because you can't use Bruno, you're like, oh, I want you to stay now.

3:24You're not going anywhere. I mean, I just think, does this not reflect really badly on the club, maybe the coach, Wilcox, whoever, that we didn't just make him feel valued in the time that we might need him? I don't like the way we're treating players. And look, some of these players have behaved badly at Man United, but cause and effect, anybody? You know, people go, oh, they're entitled this, that and the other. As we said last week, they're on social media doing things they shouldn't do. But Man United are telling them to be on social media all the time doing things they shouldn't do. We create these monsters, if you want to call it that.

3:58But I think in the case of Maynou, I want to see him go in January. I think we have destroyed that relationship to a point that it's hypocritical to now say, can we use you? Because let me use an analogy, OK? You've got two, let's say, girls, you know, women. It could be men. It could be cars, whatever, right? Two things, yeah? And you favour one of them, right? So you're always going, love, I'm taking you out tonight. Love might get you a slap around the face in 2025, to be honest. I'm acting like I'm dating in the 90s. It's been that long. I'm a happy married man. But I'm taking you out tonight.

4:37Here's a nice new dress. Isn't she great? you take her out, you know, paparazzi, paparazzi. Oh yeah. What do you want for Christmas? This, that, and the other. And then you've got another one on the go and you're sort of like, nah, is it my turn? No, no, no, no, no. And then you send them WhatsApp messages going, you know what? It could be you tonight. It could be you. It could be, I do value you. I do like you. Well, why don't you take me out? Well, it could be you tonight. Guess what? It's not, it's not. Where's my Christmas present? You're not getting one. You're not getting one. And then the one that you've been giving all the gifts and all the praise and taking them out, suddenly they piss off on a holiday for a month and you go, I want to spend time with you now.

5:18I do want to spend time with you now. And that's how I feel about it. It's sort of like, or if it was a car, you've got two cars in the garage and one of the cars, you're always taking it out. You're always washing it. And the other car's there in the garage getting dusty and you're going, dangling the keys going, hey, I'm going to take you out for a drive. Fuck off. I'm only joking. Piss off. Put them keys back in the house. And I feel that that's how we've treated Meynou. And now Bruno's injured and it's like, you're not going, I need you now. And we should, surely we would have been in a better position for this if along the last four months, we'd have been giving Meynou game time.

5:57We could still have started Bruno, but if we've been giving Menuh more regular game time to make him feel valued and he'd be more prepared. And what we've actually done is devalued him in more ways than one. And now Bruno gets injured and it's like, you're not going anywhere. We need to use you. I don't like the way we've done this. I also think it's very similar to Xerxi because if we miss out on Semenyu, we'll say Xerxi's got to stay. But if we get Semenyu, we'll go, oh, you need to go. It's not a very good way of treating in either of those two players. And I think that reflects badly on the club.

6:30If I was in charge, I would have been using Xerxi and Mainu a lot more, making them feel more valued and being more honest with them about my intentions, but making them feel part of it. They both want to leave. We're now going to say you're not going because it suits us. And I think that's just not a good way to run a football club. So I find it a bit weird. Obviously, Sky might not be correct. But having said that, the flip side to the coin is that it's always been said that Maynou is Bruno's deputy. So with Bruno out injured, then Maynou as the deputy probably does make sense. But what we've also got to factor in, and I didn't speak about this last night, and from the rumour mill, nobody is buying the fact that he had a calf strain against Villa.

7:19Nobody. In the industry, nobody's buying it. They're like, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. You played well against Bournemouth in a cameo. Your brother wore the T-shirt. You never came out and said anything about it. You're ready to start against Villa. You're not even on the bench with a calf strain, but apparently you're going to be back in a few days. I mean, who has an injury that, you know, you miss one game, but then you're back a couple of days later. So nobody's really buying that either. So it's messy. It's messy, isn't it? And what needs to happen by the sounds of it is that we need, Maynu to feel valued It's like Degas says They're just sloppy seconds Maynu and Xerxi And I don't like that I don't like that statement but You're probably not wrong We've treated them really really badly And now we need them And I think this is why we fail Because I don't think we treat anybody well I don't think the club treat you well Who does this club treat well?

8:17I think they treat fans like shit I've said that for years I think fans are treated like morons, mushrooms, feed us on shit, keep us in the dark, take our money. So I don't think this football club represents what, you know, it used to anyway. But it's going to be very interesting now because surely Maynou's in the position of power. You know, if he says, I want to go, you know, he could easily force a move. He could easily force a move. He could easily put it out there again that he wants to leave and he doesn't want to play for Amrim. in which case we as fans would go well he doesn't want to be here so I think there's um I think there's a I'd say I'd say Maynou's in the position of power I don't think he was in the position of power last week I'd say he's in the position of power now because United are desperate and they don't want to buy a midfielder so and they haven't got Bruno so I suspect Man United for all their bravado last week are suddenly going to be on their knees begging Maynou please don't go you know so it's gonna be very interesting um Esclad says I'd leave on principle I personally if I was Maynou I'd be like I want to leave I don't want to leave permanently but I want to leave I don't want to play for you this season I want to leave my headspace I want to go on loan because I just don't think that this I don't think this relationship will work out but we'll have to wait and see Jack says hijacked the Gehi deal in January experience and no system we have defence injury concerns keep Martin as CDM allows Maguire to leave in the summer as well I would love to sign Gehi from Crystal Palace in January, mate, but I don't think we've got the money to do it.

9:53Also, I don't think he'd want to come to Man United. I think he seems like he's quite switched on. And although that's massively offensive to this club, but, you know, I saw a quote from, I think it was Andy Mitton was talking about it yesterday. And he was going on about where Manchester United, basically, where Manchester United were massive. We've got a massive fan base. And I thought that's all we got. That is literally all we've got. Or the only card we can play now is we're Manchester United. We're massive. Look at our fan base. Yeah, the fan base that's absolutely neglected by this ownership and not listened to.

10:26That's actually their only card. You can't say to a player now, come to Manchester United and be successful. You can't say to a player, come to Manchester United and get better. All you can say is come to Manchester United. We've got a huge fan base and your status will grow. And that's literally all we've got now. And it's right. You know, I want some men you to sign for Man United. I want Gahee to sign for Manchester United. I want Anderson to sign for Manchester United. But on every single one of those, all we've really got is look at the size of the fan base. Look at the size of the fan base, you know?

10:54With everything going on, I don't know how people do it. Groceries are so expensive and I never know what to make. Have you ever tried Wild Fork? Wild what? Wild Fork. They blast freeze their meat at the peak of freshness, which keeps prices low. Their selection is amazing, so you never get bored with your meals. Meal planning is super easy. Wild Fork also has tons of sides, desserts and ready meals. I stock my freezer, so I always have something great for my family. You will be amazed with convenience and affordability. Great. I can't wait to visit a store and go to wildforkfoods.com. Amrim has got interpersonal issues, says Kiel.

11:28Martinez has, as a six, gave me comfort like Le Mens did, better than what we had. Is that good enough? We need midfield sorted in January to have any chance of Europe, says Chris. Tom Grant says, morning all and Merry Christmas. As I said yesterday, nice. Nice signing midfielders. We aren't. Fabrizio's tweet from last night, even when we have injuries, says Tom Grant. I need to look at this tweet because I didn't look at it. El Book says Feliz Navidad. Terrible news about Chris Rhea. Enjoy the festive period with the Goldbridge family and forget about United till the 27th. It's the 26th, El Book.

11:59But Feliz Navidad and Merry Christmas to you as well. Yeah, very sad about Chris Rhea. He sang Driving Home for Christmas and he died yesterday. but yeah let's just let's just have a quick look at this Fabrizio Romano tweet

12:23so what was he saying about last night, 10 hours ago Barcelona Rasmus, Arrighi Falkrug Liverpool, Napoli Nice, make approach which is a Moroccan midfielder. Okay, that was from Fabrizio McKennie. The only stuff I can see about Fabrizio was the Semenyu stuff, which I'm going to talk about now. I mean, look, in relation to Amirim's quote, there was another quote from Amirim, which I think I'd missed. He said, sorry, it was from Fabrizio Romano. He says, Ruben Amirim doesn't want short-term signings, even if he has to suffer with injuries. He wants players for the present and the future. That's the mission.

13:05I mean, what does that even mean? what does that what you know that's just such a politician statement isn't it what does that mean and that's clearly come from the club to romano as well what does that actually mean amrim doesn't want short-term signings even if he has to suffer with injuries he wants players for the present and future that's the mission okay tell me a short-term signing let's analyze this bollocks before we talk about some enu right what does that mean amrim doesn't want short-term signings he wants them for the present and the future. What does that mean? So we're giving up, basically.

13:40We're abandoning being successful now to hopefully be successful in the future because a 17-year-old doesn't make us better now. So that's the future. He wants players for the present. He doesn't want short-term signings. What's a short-term signing? What's something for the present? Connor Gallagher is not short-term, Drush. He's 25. If he doesn't want Connor Gallagher, that's different, but he's not short-term, is he? Ruben Neves is not short-term, he's 28. If he doesn't want Ruben Neves, that's fine, but then they're not short-term. There's loads of players like that. So what we're basically saying is, Anrim doesn't want anybody apart from Elliot Anderson or Belaber.

14:20Well, I tell you what, mate, tough shit. Christmas morning, sometimes you don't get a PS5. Sometimes you get socks. You get what you're fucking given. We're Manchester United. You need socks. You haven't got any left. So you're getting socks. I want, I want, I want. Like, I'm sorry. I think Elliot Anderson is not coming to Manchester United because we're not good enough. So I want, I want, I want. You need, you need. This is what we can get you in January. You need that. Now, of course, I don't think that's the situation. I don't think United are going, we can get you this. We can get you this.

14:57We can get you this. I think they're going, we can't get you this. Let's put it out there that we don't want anything. There's definitely deals to be done in January in the midfield. Definitely. And they're better than what we've got. So to sit there and go, we don't want short-term signings. A short-term signing would be Thiago Silva for four months. Ribé Neves is not short-term. Conor Gallagher is not short-term. If you don't think they're good enough, fine. But that's not short-term. There's plenty of options out there. and if we're not going to do it I mean you know it's frustrating isn't it Columbus says I used to think Ricky was always harsh on Bruno but he's 100 % right midfield is where the game is likely to be won sell the low Bruno Shaw Casemiro thank you Columbus he might just want to play for us if he's United Blood says Robert McCormack who Semenyu he's not got United in his blood though he's an Arsenal fan isn't he I don't know who you're talking about Robert actually maybe you're talking about Manu maybe that's what you're talking about let's talk about Semenyu for a moment lots to go through this morning but I think that what we've got let me just get rid of this idiot in the chat we're trying to talk about football and we've got little twats in the chat I want him to stay if he doesn't start next to left midfield in midfield against Newcastle I'll lose it and it will be the last straw with me supporting Amrim, says the lemon lover.

16:27Maynou? But how can he start against Newcastle when he's got a calf strain? How can you completely not, how can he not even be on the bench against Villa and then start on the Friday? Are we assuming that the injury wasn't real? If he starts on Friday, I don't think that injury was real. I don't see how you can completely miss a game on Friday, but be back. Sorry, I don't see how you can completely miss a game on Sunday and be back starting on Friday. I'm sorry, there ain't no fitness coach or anybody who's going to tell you that's true. You can't have a calf strain that keeps you completely out on Sunday and then be starting a game on the Friday.

17:05That's just not how it works. That's not how it works at all. Andy Atherton, so I don't, you know what, we'll have to wait and see. I mean, I hope he is playing, but if he does play, I'd say, yeah, injury. Andy Atherton says, look, maybe it's a one match ban. Maybe I'm said to him, I can't pick you because of the T-shirt. You know, we'll cover it up. But, you know, you're not involved. It might be that. Might be that. Or maybe Luke Shaw will give him a calf strain rub. I mean, I tell you what, all I want for Christmas is what Luke Shaw's drinking. I mean, it's a miracle. This guy cannot stay fit.

17:41He's basically been injured for the last three years. He's not been injured since May. I'll have a pint of what he's having for Christmas, please. because he, I mean, it's a miracle. It's a Christmas miracle. Nobody's talking about that enough. Luke Shaw's fitness record since May is outstanding. I mean, how does a guy that doesn't play football for three years basically get fit for eight months in a row? I want to be in America. Tip us for tea in America. America. America. Morning Mark. Yeah, the World Cup's in America. Morning, Mark. Merry Christmas. The Semenyu signing is exciting as a left wing back with Ahmad as a right wing back.

18:22But to do that, we need two disciplined midfielders. For me, Belaba and Neves have huge red flags and are not the answers as Andy Atherton. Well, look, let me talk to you about, could also want a new contract as Ken Shambles as well. Tony, Jem, welcome to the Members Club. You are a Jem. Thank you very much for that. Let me talk to you about Semenyu. Right. I think Manchester United have to sign Semenyu, right? Before I give you the latest, I think they have to sign Semenyu. And we've got the latest on Bruno's injury as well. I think Manchester United absolutely have to get this Semenyu deal done.

18:59If they don't get it done, I think it's going to cause massive embarrassment because we've gone public. And when we go public, we need to get the deal done. Now, I'm not worried about Man City, insert clip. I'm not worried about Man City because Man City are better than us. They're a better team. They're a better club in the way that they're run and they've got better prospects. So Man City are better than us. It's not about who's better. If you're choosing the better team, it's Man City. but I still think we can beat Man City because we beat Man City before. We beat Man City to Alexi Sanchez.

19:40So we can beat Man City whether they're better than us or not. So that doesn't worry me too much. What worries me about the Semenyu deal is that I don't really understand what the attraction is for him to come to Manchester United. Because I look at Bournemouth and I go, I've got a full back behind me. I'm a winger. Yeah, I've got to work hard because I play for Bournemouth and we don't always have the ball, but I'm not tracking wingers. I'm not standing on the back post. I'm a winger. I get involved and I work hard, but predominantly I'm a winger. You come to Man United, you are going to be on the edge of your six yard box for 50 % of the game, defending crosses to the back post, tracking full backs and runners, running double than what you do at Bournemouth.

20:34If he wants to do that, that's great. And I see a lot of people going, oh, we're going to cook with him at left wing back. But I've got to say, it's a very hard job at a very hard club where there is no patience. And, you know, I think that might be a factor is like, if I go to Man City, I'm playing on the wing. If I go to Liverpool, I'm playing on the wing. If I go to Man United, I'm going to play left wing back. I'm going to have to mark people like Mo Salah. I'm going to have to mark people like Saka. You know, they're going to be one-on-one against me and I'm going to be expected to defend, there's going to be crosses into the back post where I'm going to be up against people like Erling Haaland, etc.

21:20You know, 50 % of my game, I'm going to have to basically be... With everything going on, I don't know how people do it. Groceries are so expensive and I never know what to make. Have you ever tried Wild Fork? Wild what? Wild Fork. They blast freeze their meat at the peak of freshness, which keeps prices low. Their selection is amazing, so you never get bored with your meals. Meal planning is super easy. Wild Fork also has tons of sides, desserts, and ready meals. I stock my freezer, so I always have something great for my family. You will be amazed with convenience and affordability. Great. I can't wait to visit a store and go to wildforkfoods.com.

21:56A very good left back as well as getting forward. Now, if he fancies that challenge, I agree with a lot of the chat. If we want to play an attacking wingback, it's very exciting however it's a very very big change in your job and he shouldn't walk into it with any allusions of the fact that you're going to have to work ridiculously hard and the evidence is Ahmad has I mean the work Ahmad has to get through it's incredible defensively he has to get through a lot of work so yeah I agree Semenyu on one side and Ahmad on the other is very entertaining it's very exciting but it's a lot of work it's a lot of work and um i don't think choosing man city over us is going to be the problem i think the problem is going to be persuading him that that's a good move for him positionally um drusha says ahmad is forward most game um maybe watch man united a little bit more mate because ahmad's not forward most games at all we have 50 possession he's defending a hell of a lot in that United side, a hell of a lot, a hell of a lot on the back post.

23:01So I watch watch-alongs, mate. I'm sure you do. You need to watch Ahmad's position. He's forward a lot against Bournemouth, definitely forward a lot against Bournemouth, but not when we're playing away from home, not when we're playing against good teams. There's a lot of defensive work there. That's the role of a wing-back in Amrim's system. You've got to defend. So I think that it will be a hard job for him and he's got to walk into it eyes open. But I think United have got to get that deal done. You can't publicly go in for Semenu and not get him because all it will be is just spin. We've lost the game against Villa and we're going for him.

23:40So, yeah. Rob Always United has gifted five members. Well, it is Christmas and Rob's gifted five memberships. You're an absolute legend. Also, we've had five memberships gifted by Andy Atherton, another legend of the chat, if you've got one of those. Thank you, Lance, Andy and Rob. We beat other teams with big wages, says Kiel. Andy Atherton says, don't let Maynou leave and use Martinez as a centre midfielder. It costs us nothing in January. We can use injuries and AFCON as an excuse, says Andy. I think he's been a bit sarcastic there, but you're not wrong. Artad says, I saw a clip of Semenyo saying he wants to play as a number nine.

24:20If Amarin pitches the idea of left wing back to him, does that weaken our chances of getting him? This is our tads. Look, maybe we buy him and we don't use him as a left wing back. I think sometimes we get it wrong. Sancho was going to solve our right wing problem. He never played on the right wing. So maybe we're not going to buy him as that. Ginger Red says in the 1960s, there was a notorious crime syndicate in Manchester called the Quality Street Gang. It's criminal what's happening at United. There we go. The Quality Street thing might be going a little bit viral, but it's true. um solid blake's gifted five memberships now as well that everyone's gifting thank you very much solid blake you're a legend uh do you really think says devil's charm that uh do you really think any midfield signing in january will actually help given the fact that we he will have to play alongside bruno what i would like to see is man united sign a midfielder on january the first bruno not be back till the end of january and we get to see a proper midfield for three or four games.

25:19That would be great to see. James says, Amrim seems quite obsessed with Semenyo. Is it possible that Amrim's been promising to adapt his team to him when he took him for dinner? Has he took him for dinner? I didn't know he'd taken him for dinner. That's news to me.

25:38The question is, is Semenyo that good? you know is he that good i think he's a good player but are we are we are we over hype i mean to be honest with you i think kunya is better i think between embermo and some menu you can have an argument i think kunya is the better of the three but is he is he gonna really change us that much i mean he could do he might not i don't know but i don't think beyond the excitement I don't think signing Semenyu is going to necessarily definitely get his Champions League football. I really don't. I also think Liverpool would be stupid not to swoop in and sign him.

26:22I think Liverpool is the perfect place for him, to be honest. But whether they're going to come in or not, I don't know. Dave the Brave says, we don't need him. How about buying wingbacks that can cross for our 70 million striker? There's a thought, says Dave. Yeah, I don't think Semenyu is much of a crosser either, is he? I don't know. I must admit I don't watch Bourne with a hell of a lot and most of what I see of him is goals. But I don't know whether he's a creative or not. But Clive says he's brilliant at crossing mark. Oh, there you go. So look, you're not going to get any negativity from me about signing Semenyu.

26:59I just think the club have got to do it. I also think it's hilarious in a not hilarious way that we're not buying a midfielder. but I don't personally think Amrim knows what he's doing. Wilcox knows what he's doing. Barada knows what he's doing. Also, Jim Radcliffe knows what they're doing. I don't think they know what they're doing. I don't know what the vision is. So therefore, I don't know what they do. I don't think they know what they're doing. I'll keep saying it. If we buy two midfielders, stick them in the midfield, we'll start seeing progress and I can get behind the project. But buying forwards, I just don't think that really is the thing to be doing at the moment, even though it's another good forward.

27:36I'm like, it's, you know, are we really understanding what the Premier League is all about? I look at good Premier League sides. Chelsea, very good midfield. Liverpool, very good midfield last season. Arsenal, very good midfield. Man City, very good midfield. Newcastle, very good midfield. Aston Villa, very good midfield. Man United by another attacker. I'm like, I don't know what the plan is. And until I see that, well, look, it's not even until I see that. I'm not throwing out question marks. I'm throwing out facts. And I think a lot of you agree with me. Buy two midfielders as soon as you can, and this team will be better as it is.

28:21You don't even need to buy Semenyo. You don't need to buy him. If we do get him, great. But I don't even think we need him. I really don't. I think you've got Ahmad, Embermo, Mount, Bruno, Xerxi, Sesko. I don't think we even need an attacker. I would spend£60 million on two midfielders and we will be fine. We'll be in the Champions League. And then in the Champions League, you can go and get another forward. I think we're doing it wrong. I think get Champions League football, then buy your left wing back, who could be somebody else. I think we're doing it the wrong way around, but you can't deny he's a good player.

28:59The latest on it is that we are heavily in contacts presenting projects to the player and the club. Liverpool at the moment have not entered the race. This is from Fabrizio Romano. Man City are involved as well. I do feel... No, I'm not going to jinx it. I'm not going to jinx it, but I do feel we have to get this deal done. I think we've made too much noise about it that if we don't get it done, it's embarrassing. And one thing I do know about that football club is that they really don't want to be embarrassed. So I think there's a very good chance that we will get him. Whether he's making the right move for his career, well, that's on him.

29:43But I think there's a good chance we will get him. Having said that, Eugene says, well, we did make an embarrassment of ourselves with Belaba. Yeah, they have. Well, yeah, you're right. We have. We have done that with that. um thanks everyone who's tuning in this morning get your comments in uh let's talk about bruno fernandez um a bit of a story this morning coming out um i think it's in the sun so you know take it for take it for what it is but they're saying that man united are worried that bruno fernandez might not be back for the manchester derby in a month's time um one thing you can say about bruno is that he is a player that works you know ridiculously hard on his fitness and has a very good fitness record um look at the end of the day i'm absolute i'm very very surprised that he's injured in the first place um i i you know bruno and muscle injuries is just not something that i would normally uh expect now we're playing man city on the 17th of january so that's what one week two weeks three weeks it's about it's about four weeks away aren't we from it so you know he could be back he might not be back i think the problem with this is is that bruno fernandez with an ankle strain or a knock on the ankle missing a game here and there i'd be i'd expect that you know sometimes bruno goes into tackles he gets a kick on the ankle it's sore, he can't run properly, he needs a few days.

31:16This is a muscle, a soft tissue muscle injury. So with hamstrings, there are different grades. If he's done it really bad, which I don't think he has, he could be out for three months. If it's medium, he could be out for a month to two months. If it's just a minor tear, grade one, it could be four weeks. But you can't rush people back with this. It's not like bruising. It's like if you rush back, you will tear the muscle again. You have to repair it and then you have to do the rehab on it to make sure it's not going to happen again. Because what we're going to do when he gets back is throw him into the midfield at 31 and ask him to run around a lot again.

31:57So it's one of those injuries where it's not even about can we get him back quick? It's like we've got to get him back and he's got to be fully fit because Because the minute he's on the pitch, he's going to be intense again. And when he's intense, if there's any weakness in that injury, it's going to go again. So as Gaz says, he's going to need the time needed. And he's going to be impatient. And Amrim's going to be impatient. So we've got to be very, very careful with this. My thing, and I have said it a couple of times. I might have said it on YouTube. I've certainly said it on Twitter. My issue with this is that, and I just want to just double check this.

32:34because obviously I think Bruno is 32 in September. I think that's right. Yeah, he's 32 in September. With everything going on, I don't know how people do it. Groceries are so expensive and I never know what to make. Have you ever tried Wild Fork? Wild what? Wild Fork. They blast freeze their meat at the peak of freshness, which keeps prices low. Their selection is amazing, so you never get bored with your meals. Meal planning is super easy. Wild Fork also has tons of sides, desserts and ready meals. I stock my freezer, so I always have something great for my family. You will be amazed with convenience and affordability.

33:13Great. I can't wait to visit a store and go to wildforkfoods.com. So what we've done, XCO says, I thought you didn't want him. Yeah, but that's the sort of moronic opinion that a moron comes up with or somebody that doesn't actually watch the show. to be fair i've heard this so many times over the last few days oh united fans are moaning about bruno being injured and and yet they didn't want him but that's not i've even i've even i've even heard people calling in on radio stations going united fans are idiots you know they're moaning to sell him and then the minute gets injured they're crying about it no no and they're all smug on the phone doing it yeah i'm like don't call united fans without actually having the evidence.

34:00Most United fans just want Bruno to play as a Ted. And if he's playing as a midfield, we'll sell him. I saw Jamie Carragher's Premier League team of the season so far. Bruno Fernandes was in it. The hilarious thing was he was a number 10. I was laughing my head off, right? Laughing my head off about this. This is Jamie Carragher's Premier League team of the season, right? So Rufus in goal, Munez, Gehi, Gabriel, Calafiori, Xhaka, Rice, Bruno, Semenyu, Rogers, Haaland. So Carragher has picked Bruno Fernandes in his team of the season as a number 10 and he doesn't even play there. He plays in the midfield.

34:44So that's what United fans think. the vast majority of us are playing as a number 10 not as a midfielder so of course we're gonna you know miss him because even in the midfield he'll still go and take a corner or a free kick which you do as a 10 and make things happen but I do think and some people might say this is harsh I actually think Bruno in the midfield doesn't work. That's not harsh. Amrim using Bruno in the midfield is on Amrim and the injury is on Amrim. And people go, oh no, this could happen anywhere. Well, it could. It could happen anywhere. But Bruno Fernandes, throughout his 20s, didn't play as a midfield two pivot, having to become a number 10 as well as attracting the runners.

35:34The running Bruno does as a number 10 was a lot. I think he covered the most distance for his last season as a 10. But you stick him in the midfield, Savage says the injury's not on Amirim, yet let me speak. You've put somebody in the midfield, they are running in a different way, they are running more because he wants him to press as a 10, but he wants him to track runners as well. He's taking corners. He's still going to be running around as much, but he's also got to put more tackles in. The load on Bruno's body this year will be more than it was as a 10. And to do that to a 31-year-old is probably not the best advice.

36:17Bruno doesn't get hamstring injuries. And guess what happens when you start getting overload? Soft tissue damage, strains, hamstrings. I definitely think there is a correlation between Bruno Fernandes and a hamstring and being put into the midfield at 31. I'm absolutely convinced about it. And the scary thing is we're only playing one game a week, one game a week. And we're still picking up injuries like that. So, look, of course, a lot of people are getting it. Are you being harsh? It could happen to anybody. Well, why hasn't Bruno picked up hamstring injuries for the last 10 years? He doesn't get those type of injuries.

36:54We stick him in the midfield every week and suddenly he does his bloody hamstring. So I just think, look, I might be wrong, but I do think we are very demanding of him. I really do. The football we watch and the owners watch are two different games, says Seth. All are saying midfield, they go attack. Do they think by agreeing they seem weak? Merry Christmas. Maybe they're just clueless, Seth. We need Amrim gone. Arrogant, stubborn, narcissist, says Fraser. I think you've got to give him the season, in my opinion. Give Amrim the season. I don't want to sack another manager without knowing So my stance hasn't changed We have to give him the season If he fucks it up and we sack him At least we know He'll have had two really bad seasons But you can't sack a guy On half a season that he inherited And half a season that's about him He has to be given the season I know it could be a bumpy ride And I know he gets a lot of criticism But I think most people are on board That we've got to give him the season I mean some people want to give him another season as well And I think he will get another season But, you know, that doesn't mean at the end of this season I wouldn't say get rid of him.

37:59That win ratio has got to go up. You know, it has to go up. I mean, the win ratio last year, whatever, no preseason, no transfers. But the Premier League win ratio of 41 % is crap. And apparently we're making progress. Like, we spend 60 on a left wing back instead of a midfield, says Callum. Dave the Brave says, we don't need him. How about buying wing backs that can cross for 70 million? I've done that one from Dave. thank you very much. Amrim talking about not wanting short-term signings while having 18 months left on his contract and being under massive pressure. Ineos talking points as Chip.

38:34Well, that's sort of a, I mean, it's a great point, Chip. That's sort of why I said about Amrim doesn't want short-term signings, but he wants to give Casemiro another contract. He wants to give Harry Maguire another contract. I mean, we can all rinse it if we really want to think about it. I don't want a midfielder in January. I want to wait till the summer, even though it's a glaring hole in our team and they cover it up with. We don't want short-term signings, but we are talking to Maguire about a new contract. And Maguire's been injured for a lot of the time in the last two years, but we want to give him a new contract.

39:09And we also want to give Casemiro a new contract. And we're probably going to give Tom Heaton another contract. Why not? So Luke Shaw, probably probably going to keep him aren't we you know that it's not um there is a there is a hypocrisy there of course there is um let's just talk about some of i mean look antonio conte made a very interesting point i don't know whether you know but napoli won last night two nil against i think it was milan in the italian cup so rasmus posted something about uh what a good great decision looks like holding a trophy. And then Antonio Conte said, now all people keep talking about Hoyland and McTominay.

39:51Remember, they were not playing at Manchester United. Ask yourself some questions. Me and my staff must have done something right. There has to be a reason. I'd love Conte at Man United. I would love Conte at Man United. I really, really would. I said it at the time. I think it was Neville who was saying that Conte is not a Man United manager and he can't be a Man United manager. I mean, that's probably a big reason for Conte not to be a Man United manager because you don't want the ex-players against you from day one. I think Mourinho had that, didn't work out well. But I remember saying I wanted Conte at that time when Neville said no.

40:26I would love him at Man United. He will never be a Man United manager, but I would love him at Man United because he doesn't take any shit. I genuinely believe that we need somebody with experience who doesn't take any shit at that football club. Now, there aren't many people like that in the modern game, but we definitely need a disciplinarian that gets backed. I don't think Cameron's a disciplinarian. I think he's a young manager with great potential who's trying to learn his way, but he's not a reputational disciplinarian. He's coming from sporting. Conte's been at Chelsea, he's been at Juventus, Napoli, and he succeeds everywhere he goes.

41:04so I think that I would love look we won't get Conte we won't get him but he has a very good knack of improving players and there's nothing wrong with Scott McTominay by the way and there's nothing wrong with Rasmus Hoyland in relation to mentality you may have your issues with their suitability I mean McTominay was not a midfielder as a number 10 I think he worked very well for us he scored a lot of goals Rasmus was not a problem mentality wise He just was struggling He wanted to stay at the club And then this opportunity came up And he took it He wanted to stay and fight for his position And it would have been a very interesting season if he had But he definitely made the right decision So you can't knock McTominay and Rasmus For going off elsewhere and doing well The question is How many more players are going to do that and how are we going to change this culture at Manchester United?

42:04Because I agree with what McTominay said at the weekend. It's a myth that Man United, you can't be a good player at Man United. You can be a good player at Man United, but we've got to create the environment for that to happen.

42:17And, you know, what Conte said is true. They must be doing something right that Man United aren't. And I think it's the culture. I think that's what it's all about. We do need a disciplinarian, though. With everything going on, I don't know how people do it. Groceries are so expensive and I never know what to make. Have you ever tried Wild Fork? Wild what? Wild Fork. They blast freeze their meat at the peak of freshness, which keeps prices low. Their selection is amazing, so you never get bored with your meals. Meal planning is super easy. Wild Fork also has tons of sides, desserts, and ready meals.

42:49I stock my freezer, so I always have something great for my family. You will be amazed with convenience and affordability. Great. I can't wait to visit a store and go to wildforkfoods.com. But we also need a vision. You know, I think if you brought in a Conte or a Pochettino or whoever, you would expect what you know about them. You know the way they play. You know what they're going to try and do. And then they'll do the other things as well. I think the concerning thing about Amarim is that I thought I knew what he was going to do based on sporting and we just haven't seen it but then again with ten hog i thought what i thought i knew what he was going to do and we haven't seen it and that has to that that that comes from above that where is the support because there's no point bringing a manager in and going oh i really like what he does and then a year later you're like well he's not doing it is he because they haven't had that so uh michael doherty says merry christmas to mark and the united stand community may var be kind trophies return and belief stay strong always united says Michael thank you very much for that um Jal says we've had Mourinho Van Gaal and Ten Hag um yeah and Mourinho won trophies and Ten Hag won trophies like I think I think what you're trying to do is say that um we've already tried that and it didn't work comparable to now it was a bloody it was Christmas you know Ten Hag won the Carabao Cup and the FA Cup Mourinho took us to second one is the Europa League and the Carabao Cup so I regret sacking Mourinho I don't think we should have sacked Mourinho I think that was the opportunity to you know kill off player power and we we promoted it so look at the time we all wanted to sack Mourinho but in hindsight we're in a lot better position then than we are now um so I don't think I would look I don't what I'm saying is I can't get on board with your opinion that well we tried that and it didn't work no we tried that and we decided it didn't work but in hindsight it bloody did compared to where we are now um ten hog finished two third as well the what look i don't regret i don't i'm not criticizing people for saying jose out or ten hog out or or whoever the problem is at the time we sacked jose we didn't think that was acceptable he'd just finished second and we were probably what i don't know in the league so at that time we felt that was unacceptable when ten hog was heading out of the club winning the fa cup and being eighth wasn't acceptable so he got sacked now we're losing europa league finals to spurs and finishing 15s.

45:37And that's just what we are. So it's not wrong to have said sack Jose, sack Ten Hag. But what is absolutely clear is that the standards are dropping because where we sacked Jose, where we sacked Ten Hag and where we are today is a lot lower. Jose and Ten Hag would have been sacked weeks ago if they were doing what's happening at the moment. But Amarim's only had a year. So, but Jose and Ten Hag's first year shits all over Amrins. So what I'm trying to say is confusing. It's confusing. There are no standards, says Anonymous Lee, but there is no vision either. It is a very confusing time and maybe it's going to be a different time.

46:25but when I look at when I look at Jose and I look at Ten Hag their first year were good they were good like Jose won us the Europa League and the Carabao Cup and we qualified for the Champions League Ten Hag finished third and won the Carabao Cup and we qualified for the Champions League so they had good first years and then things started to go wrong under Amrim the first year is shit but maybe it's going to get better but I need to see a vision and that vision for me is that midfield Sid says so is Amrim out then Sid literally in the last 10 minutes we've just spoken about this and you might have come in in the last 5 minutes but I'm a bit tired of so you're Amrim out then because I've said it multiple times I think he's got to be given the season I want to know I want to know the story before I want to read the book before I give a review on it And I think he has to be given the season.

47:27No matter how bad it gets, he's got to be given the season. That doesn't mean I can't sit here in February and go, he's never going to be the guy. But the January transfer window is really important. And signing Semenyu is very exciting. But I'll tell you now, I'll tell you now, I've told you, I've told you. If we get two midfielders and stick them in that midfield, I'll be a very excited person, right? I will be on board. I will see progress. I'm absolutely convinced that two decent, disciplined, composed midfielders will take this team to the next level. And I don't know whether anyone else has picked up on it yet, but I find it really frustrating that we can see it and everyone else can see it.

48:15but the people that matter in the club cannot see it. And if he puts two composed, disciplined midfielders in there, we have a future, we'll have progress, we'll have a vision. And his reluctance to do it, and the club's reluctance to do it, is very, very frustrating. But when that happens, we'll be okay. And that's what makes me, even in a 3-4-3, we will be okay. And that's what makes me think, you know, when are we going to do it or aren't we going to do it? And I tell you what, if Amrim ends up getting sacked because he never got midfielders, that will be massively frustrating. It was massively frustrating when Jose got sacked because the players stabbed him in the back.

48:55Because I think we could have been onto something there. If they'd bought into it, I think we could have been onto something there. But if we end up sacking Amrim because he didn't sort the midfield out, oh my God, that will be so frustrating. What do you think is going to happen with Semenya, Mark? Look, Sky was saying yesterday there could be a decision. Um, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like we will. I feel like we've made a strong play, so it should happen.

49:38some menus january transfer clause can only be activated during the first 10 days of the month and a winter departure from bournemouth is increasingly likely well i mean that that's from ben jacobs but we already know that it's it's january the 11th isn't it um david ornstein says i think elliot anderson is top of man united's list i mean look i like david ornstein but that sort of stuff just doesn't help us it doesn't help us oh david ornstein says Elliot Anderson's top of our list. Whoop-de-doo. So what's top of your Christmas list that you're not going to get? That stuff doesn't help us. I think Elliot Anderson is top of Magninon's list.

50:13David Ornstein's doing his job. I'm not slating David Ornstein at all. That's his job. But David Ornstein saying, I think Elliot Anderson's top of our list just creates this buzz in the fan base and they move away from reality of, we won't get Elliot Anderson. We won't get Elliot Anderson if we don't get Champions League football because there's so many other clubs and he even says it as well there's so many other clubs in it um yeah going back to Semenyo um I think that um if Liverpool are out the race I think we've got a really good chance because I don't think Man City have got a very good record of beating us in a head-to-head for whatever reason so as long as

51:02as long as Liverpool stay out of it it should be fine should be fine

51:21um okay

51:34sorry i was just reading something there yeah the the menu stuff was was what ben jacob said on the show a few weeks ago it's a 10-day thing uh ray karl brown amore i hope you're doing well ray have a merry christmas he says it is the board that has set the standards now i've been screaming for years to them for a vision inios came in and i still see no vision two years tomorrow since Ineos were announced as Man United's owners. And have we seen any progress? We're going to talk about that on the eight o 'clock show tomorrow night. Merry Christmas to Mark and the United Stand community. Mate, I've done that as well.

52:03OK, well, look, thanks so much for watching this morning. We've actually got loads of shows for you over Christmas. I've got an interview with Ben Jacobs that we're doing tomorrow. So we've got the end of the year. Sorry, not the end of the year. The year highlights. We've got a Newcastle preview, morning show, evening shows. We've got it absolutely covered. somebody said what's the transfer blow oh you know 10 o 'clock every morning mate 10 o 'clock every morning huge transfer blow Maynou apparently is not allowed to leave so it's a huge transfer blow for Maynou I think I think he should be allowed to leave I think we've treated him badly um thanks everyone for watching we are back at two I am back at eight and I'll take out for a mince pie.

52:50I'll speak to you later. Take care. Thanks for watching. On should Maynou stay, 62 % of you say yes, 38 % say no. I think no. Honestly, I think no. I think the way we've treated him is shit and I don't think you can start going, oh, I like you now when they've neglected him for five months. But then again, that's how this football club behaves and we wonder why players are unhappy. Speak to you in a bit. Take care. With everything going on, I don't know how people do it. Groceries are so expensive and I never know what to make. Have you ever tried Wild Fork? Wild what? Wild Fork. They blast freeze their meat at the peak of freshness, which keeps prices low.

53:29Their selection is amazing, so you never get bored with your meals. Meal planning is super easy. Wild Fork also has tons of sides, desserts, and ready meals. I stock my freezer, so I always have something great for my family. You will be amazed with convenience and affordability. Great. I can't wait to visit a store and go to wildforkfoods.com.