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31 Dec 2025 · 1h 3m · 28 chapters

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287: Amorim OUT Of Ideas! INEOS Must WALK!

In short

Mark Goldbridge reacts to Manchester United’s recent poor performances, focusing on Ruben Amorim being “out of ideas” and arguing that the real cause is incompetence from INEOS and the Glazers, not individual players.

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No podcast guests are interviewed in the transcript. Mentions include football figures (e.g., John Daly in an ad, Gary Neville in commentary), but no guest appearances.

Key claims

  • INEOS/Glazers should be blamed for appointing Amorim and for failing to back managers and build a coherent football structure.
  • Amorim is overly defensive/counterattacking, makes baffling substitutions (notably at half-time vs Wolves), and lacks a clear vision.
  • Personnel problems: Luke Shaw, Deleu, Bruno Fernandes (as a midfield choice), and Harry Maguire are repeatedly blamed as “infected by failure.”
  • Sacking Amorim without changing ownership/decision-makers will just repeat the cycle.

Notable examples

  • Home draws vs Wolves/Bournemouth and earlier poor results (Newcastle, Brentford, Everton, Liverpool 7-0).
  • January transfer window: Goldbridge fears United won’t act unless forced by dropped points.
  • “Strategic review” criticized as slow and superficial (Brailsford).

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Chapters

1:16

Amorim Under Pressure

Discussion about the criticism of coach Ruben Amorim and the team's current state.

“I've seen the usual suspects screaming sack Amorim, Ineos sack Amorim.”
5:05

Critique of Management Decisions

Criticism of Manchester United's management and their decision-making processes.

“You know, it's not even worthy of a statement.”
9:40

Performance on the Field

Analysis of the team's performance, strategies, and player roles.

“I'm not bothered about Amrim, to be honest with you.”
14:00

Survival Mode and Disappointment

Discussion on the team's current performance and lack of strategy.

“Kunyuri, Mbemo-y, Amadi, Bruno-y, you know, Delo-y.”
15:27

Critique of Ineos and Player Decisions

Analysis of Ineos' management decisions and their impact on player retention.

“And also I saw people again, like, let me just answer this one, right?”
17:49

The Root of Manchester United's Problems

Examination of the underlying issues at Manchester United beyond player performance.

“It started off with the players that turned on Mourinho and won because Woodward allowed them to, and they've taught every player ever since.”
20:59

Ownership and Management Accountability

Discussion on the responsibilities of Ineos and Glazers for the club's failings.

“And the sooner people stop distracting people to go down avenues that are completely irrelevant, the better.”
23:12

The Futility of Sacking Managers

Reflection on the cycle of sacking managers without addressing root causes.

“We will not succeed under this ownership.”
28:00

Managerial Decisions and Transfer Needs

Discussion on managerial decisions and the urgent need for transfers.

“They won't sack Amarin because if they do, they have to admit they've been here for 18 months.”
29:10

Home Record and Fan Atmosphere

Analysis of the team's poor home record and the fans' unwavering support.

“Now we've drawn to Wolves, they might be going, we need to buy someone.”
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30:20

Players' Attitudes and Team Dynamics

Exploration of players' attitudes and potential dissatisfaction within the team.

“The Stretford end yesterday with the flags and the banners was absolutely incredible.”
31:35

Summer Transfers and System Failures

Discussion on summer transfers and how they have impacted the manager's system.

“The biggest problem is that the players are being bought in are also not good enough, says Andre.”
33:00

Cultural Impact on Player Performance

Insights on how club culture affects player performance and mindset.

“So, but of course, if Sesco's not doing well, it's totally Amrin's fault.”
34:30

Managerial Responsibility and Team Structure

Discussion on the manager's responsibility and the overall team structure.

“the pitch and boardrooms is listy uh all things vinny says all things vin says inios need to go but that wouldn't make amrin better he talks a good talk but i've not seen anything from him yet and his coaching is awful.”
35:30

Historical Context and Current Problems

Contextual analysis of the team's historical challenges and current issues.

“But I mean, I don't I mean, look, I should have done this at the start.”
37:00

Ownership and Management Critique

Critique of ownership decisions and their impact on management choices.

“If Cunha and Mberma are infected already by the culture in this club, can they be reversed and get back to how they were at their respective clubs?”
38:40

Reflections on a Difficult Year

Reflections on the struggles faced throughout the year and future expectations.

“You know, we've not actually done the things that need to be done.”
40:50

Final Thoughts and New Year Wishes

Final thoughts on the current situation and wishes for improvement in the new year.

“Has there been a worse year than this in the Premier League for Man United?”
42:00

Analyzing Amrim's Coaching Challenges

Discussion on Amrim's coaching style and its implications for the team's performance.

“It's very, very niche and it needs huge backing.”
44:24

Ownership and Management Critique

Critique of the current ownership and management structure at Manchester United.

“Ruben should have gone after that final debacle, says Rhys.”
47:16

The Deteriorating State of Manchester United

Discussion on the slow decline of Manchester United and the factors contributing to it.

“Glazer out is our only chance, says Forza.”
49:10

Debating Potential Managers and Future Vision

Debate on potential managerial candidates and the future direction of the club.

“If you don't understand why after last night, I can't help you.”
53:02

The Need for Structural Changes

Emphasis on the necessity of structural changes within the club for sustainable progress.

“I mean, I don't think you can go back to Sir Alex Ferguson and start at Man United and compare it to Reuben Amrin, mate.”
56:00

The Challenge of Rebuilding Manchester United

Explore the necessity of removing existing issues to rebuild Manchester United effectively.

“It's going to take years to get us back.”
57:15

Community and Support Amidst Frustration

Discuss the importance of the fan community and upcoming content despite frustrations.

“You know, that's the I mean, what would we do without this?”
58:04

Critique of Ownership and Media

Analyze the failures of Manchester United's ownership and media complicity in the club's issues.

“You know, there are standards at this football club and you are upholding them.”
59:46

Evaluating Player Performance and Management Decisions

Examine the impact of player choices and tactics on recent match outcomes and managerial accountability.

“back the manager in the transfer window.”
1:02:31

Debate on Managerial Change Timing

Discuss the strategic timing of potential managerial changes and future prospects.

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0:28Here's golf legend John Daly. This is the story of the one. As a maintenance engineer at a beverage manufacturing plant, he starts his day knowing every line is ready to run because Grainger delivers the industrial-grade products he needs to keep mixers, conveyors, and packaging equipment moving. With Grainger's vast selection of bearings, belts, and motors, he keeps operations running smoothly, so nothing grinds to a halt. Call 1-800-GRAINGER, click grainger.com, or just stop by. Grainger. For the ones who get it done. Hello everybody, good morning. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news.

1:08How are you feeling this morning after last night's debacle? That was absolutely shameful. So much to get into. I've seen Terry saying last night that Amorim must resign tonight. I've seen the usual suspects screaming sack Amorim, Ineos sack Amorim. And you know what? I don't disrespect it, but I almost laugh at it. There There are so many people, in my opinion, going off down the wrong road again that you almost go, we're never going to get out of this mess. I mean, I can literally see people on social media last night saying, well, I thought we were better without Bruno. And then I'm getting tagged in it.

1:45Goldbridge, they're talking about you. Hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. Bruno Fernandes, we're better without Bruno. Who said that? Who's who's who was who has ever said that? I've heard people say Bruno shouldn't be playing in the midfield. he should play as a number 10. I don't remember anybody saying we're better off without Bruno, so I don't remember that one. As for Amirim needs to be sacked by Ineos, are we ever going to look at the people who appointed him in the first place? So you actually want Ineos to sack Amirim and pick the next guy? Absolutely incredible. Absolutely amazing that people are there going sack Amirim and trusting the people to sack him who recruited him in the first place.

2:25At what point are you going to figure it out? At what point are you going to realise that this circle, this cycle is not going to change? Oh, bring Bruno back. We'll be fine with Bruno. What, the same Bruno that sacked Oli? The same Bruno that sacked Ranić? The same Bruno that sacked Ten Hag? The same Bruno that's going to sack Amrim? And I don't mean him individually, but he's part of the plan. Doesn't work. Doesn't work. I mean, I woke up this morning And I actually thought, you know what, before we talk about Ruben Amrim, why are we doing the job of our owners? I mean, what does Omar Barada, Jason Wilcox and Sir Jim Radcliffe actually get paid to do apart from be bloody incompetent?

3:09I mean, it's almost like they've told us they're not sacking Amrim. Sir Jim Radcliffe said three years. Barada said Amrim's the guy. Wilcox has said Amrim's the guy. So if they do sack him, it's only because of pressure from you. So you're doing their job. Why are we doing their job? Somebody said this morning in the chat, surely we'll buy in January now. Surely we will, but they weren't going to. You're doing their job for them again. We've all been saying we've got to sign players in January. They're all going, we don't want to panic. We must suffer. They'll now do it because their plan is awful.

3:43And that's what scares me the most is that you sack Amrim, you bring a new guy in and you're just delaying the inevitable, you know, the next guy will fail because the path is already trodden. I can't understand how Jason Wilcox, Omar Barada, Sir Jim Radcliffe and Joel Glazer recruit Ruben Amrim and then sit there with a smile on their face when he's picking people like Deleu and Bruno in the midfield and Luke Shaw. Like, has nobody at that football club done any research? Can I go in tomorrow morning? Well, it's New Year's Day. Can I go in on Friday morning and just give them one hour of, you know, a little bit of recent history for Manchester United.

4:21You do know Deleuze's been here for quite a while and has always been pretty shit. You do know Luke Shaw's been here for 10 years and has always been up and down. You do know Bruno's been here for a long time and is not a midfielder. Like, what about your plan did you not figure out wasn't going to work? At what point did you get a stiffy about Amrim picking Deleuze and Luke Shaw and everyone else and get really excited? At what point did your brain not kick the fuck in and go, this isn't going to work? Because every single one of us have been sat there for months going, this does not look good.

4:55And yes, I respect the people who say sack Amriem and we will talk about what he said. And look, he's out of ideas. Breaking news. He's out of ideas. You know, he's on the pathway to the sack. You know, it's not even worthy of a statement. but in the problems of Manchester United as a percentage pie I still think the manager doesn't take any more than 25 % I think the players takes about 25 % and I think the owners take 50 % and let's not forget the owners appointed Amron the owners look what I'm trying to say is if you were the owner of Man United or I was the owner of Man United this morning well not even this morning you know four months ago I'd be sat there going hold on a minute mate what why why are you so obsessed with the low?

5:39Like, do you want me to, he's been shit for years. Why are you picking Luke Shaw? Like, he's not even that good and there's no future with it. Why have you been playing Bruno in the midfield? Like, there's just so many things you'd go, that won't work. But you've got morons in positions above him who've got, you know, I can't believe, I can't believe Jason Wilcox has not done his homework. Like, he needs sacking as well and so does Omar Barada. So if you're sacking Amrim, they've got to go because their job is literally over the last year to pull him into the office and say, what are you doing?

6:15And neither of them have done it. They just sit there like this. Have you seen them in the crowd? They're just sat there like this. I would not be sat there like that as a director of football watching Man United. I would not be sat there like that as a CEO. They look like a couple of prats. They've got no idea. Absolutely no idea. Man United's biggest problem is we don't have competence and we don't have DNA. We don't have people who understand the structure of Manchester United. Nobody with a brain in power would sit there watching this over the last few months going, why is Deleu taking long throw-ins?

6:51He can't even throw it far. Why are you even picking him? Why is Luke Shaw constantly playing in the back three and he does next to nothing? Why is Bruno Fernandes playing in the midfield? Why have you got a six foot five striker and you don't put crosses in? Like there's just so many things. They've sat back and gone, OK, this is a good idea. You know, there is no look. Amarim's made loads of mistakes, loads of mistakes. Amarim is in trouble. But at what point do you go? We've got a director of football. We've got a CEO. We've got an owner. And none of them have figured it out. I mean, you know what?

7:31If I was Sir Jim Radcliffe, I'd actually be locked in the basement at Carrington, you know, with my hands tied behind me and a blindfold on and a mouth gag on. Because I'd be going, I've not spent 1.8 billion to watch this shit. What is this prat doing in charge of this football club? He's got no idea. And what worries me is, is that you sack Hammer him and they bring somebody else in, but you're still left with the same decision maker. Do you get what I mean? Do you get what I mean? This is my big issue this morning. It's like, I'm not saying don't sack Hammer him, by the way. What I'm saying is the people who appointed him have sat back and smiled at this shit for a year.

8:07They've actually just sat back and gone, yeah, it's fine to pick Luke Shaw. It's fine to pick Bruno in the midfield. It's fine to do the low. It's fine not to sign a midfielder. Amirim's bad. But let's not lose sight of the people in charge have allowed this. They've actually applauded this. They've appointed this. they are incredibly shit at their job and they will still be here. Ineos, in my opinion, Ineos need to go. Ineos need to go and expose the Glazers because they can't afford it. Ineos need to go. They need to go. You know, it's not what I want to talk the show about, but Ineos need to go.

8:50They're absolutely dreadful. They've appointed absolute shit from day one. They've made stupid decisions, they need to go. They are not fit for purpose. They are absolutely dreadful. They are actually worse than the Glazers when you look at the last two years. Nothing they've done. You know, they're like Timo Werner in a blindfold. So many open goals they've missed. They're absolutely woeful, absolutely dreadful. They've got no idea of what they're doing. You brought Brailsford in to do a strategic review that just basically sacked half the workforce. you know you're holding the Glazers hands to a new stadium to make a load of money on the footballing side you're an absolute joke Wilcox hasn't worked Barada hasn't worked so Jim Radcliffe hasn't worked Amarim's not working the whole thing is an absolute shambles and I don't know why I don't know why Man United are in the worst position they've been in and nobody's doing anything about it I don't know why I don't know why this is not happening So look, before we start, you know, my big fear about these people who say Ineos need to sack him this morning is that you're absolutely so naive that you think Ineos actually know what they're doing.

10:05Ineos need to go. I'm not bothered about Amrim, to be honest with you. Amrim will get sacked by new owners anyway. The owners need to go. We should be protesting. There should be protests. There should be games getting cancelled. There should be, you know, merchandise vetoes. I mean, I tell you what as well over Christmas, how many new tracksuits have we released? How many new tops are we released? Has anybody noticed that? The volume of new tops that get released by Man United. It's like one a week. Oh, David Beckham's in this one. Oh, someone else is in that one. It's an absolute sham. It's an absolute sham.

10:39And we're an embarrassment. I'm tired of being an embarrassment. We're an absolute embarrassment this morning. People are laughing at us again because we gave Wolves a point at Manchester United. So look, yeah, sack your manager, whatever. But there needs to be some focus just on how incompetent these people are. You know, you know, you know as well, when I see Sir Jim Radcliffe or Omar Barada or Wilcox, do you not just die a bit inside when you see them and go, you've got absolutely no correlation with my football club at all. You are nobodies. You're not even fans. You've never played for the club.

11:15You don't know anything. You know nothing about it. you're just bloody hired prats. They've got nothing to do with this football club and they've got no idea about this football club. For the love of God, get someone like Nicky Butting or someone who knows what the club's about. It's absolutely shameful. It's so embarrassing. And this is what you get. This is what you reap. You know, it's, I'm not going down this road, but as I said last night, for the last two weeks, there's been a lot of you in the comments saying, why is it so negative? Why are you moaning all the time? Because I've got a brain, because I can see what's going on.

11:49Because the Newcastle win was a joke, if we're being completely honest. We should have lost to Newcastle. We should have lost to Bournemouth. Bournemouth should have beat us. Newcastle should have beat us. And we were very shit again last night. I'm not convinced by anything, which is why I brought in PRV, performance results and vision. We have been getting the odd result, but there is no vision and there is no performance. I mean, look, talking about Reuben Amarim, what I will say about Ruben Amrim is what I said after the Brentford game and I said it last night he's on the pathway to being sacked he's out of ideas he's got absolutely no idea what he's doing I listened to what he said about Xerxes at half time and I just was like I can't I can't believe it I think he took Xerxes off as a scapegoat I think he took Xerxes off because he was annoyed with him so he took him off that's fine that's absolutely fine but the nepotism is unreal the favoritism is ridiculous.

12:43How many times have we seen Bruno or Deleu put in a shit first half and they'll play the next game, the next half and everything. Xerxes has a shit half, off he comes and he'd actually scored. But what I found incredible about what he said about Xerxes coming off was that we had too many attackers on the pitch and we needed to get control of the ball and I think we basically replicated the first half in the second half. We had no more control in the second half than we did in the first half, but we took an attacker off. Why would you take an attacker off at half-time? In the second half, you're bringing defenders on.

13:17Like, I just, I don't understand. The Xerxes substitution was wild to me. Absolutely wild. I'd rather he didn't start Xerxes and had him as an option in the better. I can't believe he didn't bring Obi on for Luke Shaw, but why are you trying to get control of the midfield at home to Wolves at Old Trafford? Why are you respecting Wolves so much that you're trying to get control of the defence in the midfield? We're meant to attack, mate. And I just, look, I did see Sporting a lot. I don't recognise this. But he is ridiculously defensive. Like, he is a defensive coach. He is a counter-attacking defensive coach.

13:55He's Ole Gunnar Solskjaer with a Portuguese passport. I'm sorry, he is. He's going to start adding a Y on everybody's name next. You know, it will be Zerksy. Well, Zerksy's already got one. Kunyuri, Mbemo-y, Amadi, Bruno-y, you know, Delo-y. It's going to be all like that. He's Oli with a Portuguese passport. And I'll tell you why. Because he plays counterattacking football. And every time we go in front, he defends it. He's worried about what everyone else is going to do and not trying to impart his game on them at all. We don't create enough chances. It's embarrassing. It's incredible to me.

14:32and he's out of ideas as well. And the players have given up. I've seen this movie too many times. The players have given up 100%. That is not a team last night that is focused on this formation or trying to develop. We're in survival mode, basically. We're in survival mode and nobody comes out of survival mode. Survival mode is about how long you can survive. it's like hanging on to the rope you know you're between two mountains you've got no energy and you're holding on to a rope you've got absolutely no chance of climbing up and getting to the other side you're just holding on for help you're holding out you just seeing how long you can hold on that's that's Amram at the moment he's absolutely got no chance of climbing out of this mess he's just holding on for as long as he can it's survival football so um massively disappointed to be honest with you.

15:27And also I saw people again, like, let me just answer this one, right? When you're talking about Bruno Fernandes, right? I don't get it. I genuinely don't get the Bruno argument. I don't get it. And I think this is where we go wrong. Everybody should be focusing in on Ineos. That's where I think everybody, I can't tell you to, but everybody, every road leads back to Ineos basically. Every bad decision that Amrim's made leads back to Ineos. The team, the fact that we're still picking people like Luke Shaw and Deleu goes back to Ineos. What needed to happen with that strategic review? And it's a piece of piss.

16:07So David Brailsford took six months to do his strategic review. I could write down in six minutes a load of stuff that would take them a year to do in six minutes, right? One of the first things that should have happened is how many players have we got at this football club that have been here for multiple managers? They need to go. They're not experienced. They're not leaders. They're not role models. They need to go. You know, I'm sorry, Luke Shaw, Deleuze, Harry Maguire, Bruno Fernandes. You've all got to go because we're building something new and you've been part of failure and you can't teach new players when you know failure.

16:40It's not your fault necessarily, but you are tainted by failure. You need to go. I would have done that straight away. Ruthless. Get rid of them. What did Ineos do. Embrace it. Embrace it. Deleuze on the leadership team has been promoted. Bruno is the captain. Maguire they're trying to give a new contract to. You know, Luke Shaw's on the leadership. They've all been embraced when they should have been booted because they are failure. They represent failure and they're teaching new failures. Why is it so contagious that a new player comes to Man United? Like Kunia and Embermo were brilliant last year.

17:15They're now Man United players. You know what I mean? You know what I mean. They're inconsistent, they're frustrating, and they're not the players they were. Every single player we bring in gets infected by what we see. Why is that? Because we haven't got rid of the shit. The leaders teach the new players, and the new players get taught how to be shit. It's so obvious. It's so obvious. It doesn't get spoken about, and it's bloody obvious. Pogba and Co. passed it on to a new breed. He who passed it on to a new breed, who passed it on a new breed. This has been running through our dressing room for a decade.

17:49It started off with the players that turned on Mourinho and won because Woodward allowed them to, and they've taught every player ever since. So what we have at Man United is a dressing room culture of light switch, arrogance and inconsistency. So you buy a player like Mbumo or you buy a player like Cunha who show consistency and performance every week and a hard work ethic at a club like Brentford and Wolves, They come to Man United and within six months, they're light switch players because they've been infiltrated and taught by a dressing room that isn't good enough. So the most obvious thing you would do if you were an owner is you would say, thank you very much, Bruno.

18:27You've got great stats, but you're off. Thank you very much, Deleu. You're off. Shaw, you're off. Maguire, you're off. Thank you very much. You've been paid well. See you later. We're rebuilding this club and you are infected by failure. You've got to go. Enjoy yourself somewhere else. Napoli's good, right? And you build a new dressing room and you build a new culture. And what we've done is we've actually embraced that failure. And this is on Ineos. How have they not seen that that's a problem? Because they don't understand football. So when people say to me, we missed Bruno last night. Okay, Bruno plays, we beat Wolves.

18:58What does it actually do though? We roll onto the next failure because we should beat Wolves and we probably would beat Wolves with Bruno, but it's fucking Wolves. Did we beat Brentford with Bruno? No. Did we beat Everton with Bruno? No. Did we lose 7-0 to Liverpool with Bruno? Yes. Bruno will not take us where we need to be. We would have been better with Bruno. And hold on a minute, Larson. We're not playing Bruno's fault again because I wish I'd said this at the start. It's people like you that caused the problems at this football club because last night is not about Bruno. Last night is not about Luke Shaw.

19:32Last night is about Ineos. But what some people like you do is, is you turn it into something where you can moan about something completely irrelevant. So I saw someone last night going on about, well, I thought Bruno was the problem. What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you bringing Bruno Fernandes into this? What's Bruno Fernandes got to do with the club being in turmoil and steady decline for 20 years? With Bruno or without Bruno, we're still shit. That's proven over the last five years. We've had Bruno for five years and we're still shit. We might be slightly better shit with him, but we're still shit because one player cannot be responsible for all of this.

20:12So these people going, well, well, you know, well, well, yeah, well, this is what happens when you want Bruno to be dropped. I don't even know anybody that wants Bruno to be dropped. I want Bruno to play as a number 10, but I'll tell you what, with or without him, we're still shit because one player doesn't solve all of this. So the people talking about Bruno, as far as I'm concerned, you're enemy of the club because you're distracting from the real issue because you've got some sort of player FC fetish. What's Bruno got to do with today? Nothing. With or without him, we're still shit. The problems at Man United have got nothing to do with whether Bruno plays or not.

20:52This is an Ineos problem. This is a Glazer problem and they've caused it. Simple as. And the sooner people stop distracting people to go down avenues that are completely irrelevant, the better. Every road leads back to Ineos. Every road leads back to the Glazers. And they are the real issue at this football club. So I don't care if we sack Ruben Amrim. I don't care. I'm not Amrim in. I'm not Amrim out. I've said give him the season because at the end of the day, I do not want Darren Fletcher for the next five months where the players try hard. He gets a contract and it's Oli all over again, but it's a Poundland version.

21:27I'd rather get to the summer where there's a load of managers that are going to be available after the World Cup and we actually get a decent one in. But it won't matter because there is a proven track record that we do not have the funds to back any manager at this football club. You've got Arsenal beating Villa 4-1, top of the league by five points and their manager says we're Arsenal, we'll be active in the January transfer window. You've got Man United who are terminally shit saying we're not going to do anything in the window, we don't want to. So, look, do what you want. That's your prerogative.

22:03That's your entitlement. But I would just say anybody who's trying to distract people away from the real issue is a problem. You know, the Bruno fan club, the Deleuze fan club, you know, the result fan club, whatever they are. This I don't even think I don't even think focusing on Amrim is really the way to be. but I've got to respect it. You know, the manager's doing shit. The performances are shit. The results are shit. We're shit. You know, we're Manchester United. A manager's job should be on the line. You've got to respect that. But who appointed him? Who's not backed him? And who comes in next and gets not backed by this?

22:41And ultimately, Ineos need to go. Ineos need to go. And the Glazers need to go. And that's what needs to happen. And we're so, we're so, you know, what scares me the most is they sack Ruben Averin Amirim. Everyone thinks everything's okay. They bring in a Glasner or they bring somebody else. Everyone's, you know, oh yeah, it's the future, it's the future. And a year down the line, we're exactly where we are again. I'm tired of it. That's not negativity. That's not moaning. That's just experience and reality. We will not succeed under this ownership. We will fail under this ownership. They do need to empty the stadiums.

23:20People do need to rip up the season tickets. People do need to stop buying merchandise. People do need to protest, but it won't happen. And I'm responsible for that as much as anybody else. It won't happen. The Glazers have been getting away with it for 20 years. They wouldn't get away with it for 20 minutes at Liverpool. They wouldn't get away with it for 20 minutes at other clubs. But at this football club, we are the perfect environment for survival of cockroaches and they will keep getting away with it and we will be nothing. We will not win anything big under this ownership ever again. And people say, well, didn't the Glazers, weren't the Glazers in charge when we won the Champions League in 08?

23:59Weren't the Glazers in charge when we won three Premier Leagues in a row? Yeah, because we had Sir Alex Ferguson, who basically the previous 15 years before the Glazers came in, had built a dynasty and had enough left in the tank to keep it running for a few miles. but it was it was going to run out we won things under the glazes in the first few years because we had sir alex who'd built the dynasty and knew we had a few years left it was going to run out quick though he wouldn't he sir alex couldn't have stayed another 10 years and kept us on top absolutely not not with the glazes in charge he got everything he could out of that team and then he was gone um so you look that yeah that's where i'm at but look somebody said well so are you amuriman or are you amurim out look the guy's gone i've seen the movie before he's gone it's just the case of when.

24:45But I said this after Brentford and, you know, I understand in the modern world there is this obsession with, you know, instant, instant decisions. Sack him now, resign now. But you've got to get real. He's not going to get sacked now, is he? He's not going to get, you know, he's not on a walk now. It's not going to happen. It's going to be a long goodbye. I said it after Brentford. It will be he's on the road to the sack and I can't see anything. In fact, he's on more of a road to the sack now than he was after Brentford and I thought after Brentford he was on the road to the sack his tactics are shit his system is shit um and um his style of play is shit and the results are shit there's nothing endearing about what he's doing some people get very excited about results but the results have no substance Newcastle had no substance to it at all we were shite um Crystal Palace away we were shit but we won um there's just no sign of a revival there isn't there's no there's no sign of a revival and also might be a little bit controversial here but i actually don't think if he goes to a back four everything will get a lot better and i don't agree with gary neville and many of you lot i don't i think the back four looks better but it won't be enough tenard got sacked playing a back four i think i think i don't think i don't think the back four is the answer people think if we play a back four we're going to win the league we won't because the problem's the same as the start of the show we've still got Deleu we've still got Luke Shaw we've still going to play Bruno in the midfield we've still got all these players that aren't good enough you can put him what you can put him in whatever any formation you like I mean look if you gave Deleu to Arsenal Man City or Liverpool they wouldn't use him wouldn't even get anywhere near the first team and there's multiple players like that at United but these are key players at United so it doesn't matter whether you play a 3-4-3, a 5-3-2, a 4-4-2 or a 4-2-3-1, if you pick certain players, we will fail.

26:45So the formation might help a little bit, but the personnel is not going to help, which is why Ten Hag got sacked in a back four. So I think some people are obsessed with the formation as well. I prefer the back four, having seen it against Newcastle in the first half, but it won't make a huge amount of difference. It really, really won't. And the situation we find ourselves in with Amorim is that Ineos are desperate not to sack him for the reasons I've just been speaking about for 20 minutes. They are shit. Wilcox is shit. Barada is shit. Sajim is shit. Ineos's ownership has been shit. But sacking Amorim makes them more shit.

27:23So they won't do it. so we've now got cowardly crap owners crap owners are bad enough but we've got cowards in charge as well and they need calling out for it they're cowards they won't sack him because it's their decision and they'll get more shit so you look at Wilcox and Barada since they've come in absolute shit show they've not even been here two years and they'll have sacked two managers and spent 600 million quid so they need sacking but Sir Jim doesn't want to sack them because he likes them. So he doesn't want to expose them. He doesn't want to expose himself. So they can't sack Amarin.

27:59Again, maybe a journalist might figure this out and put it in an article, but they're cowards. They won't sack Amarin because if they do, they have to admit they've been here for 18 months. They've sacked two guys, which has cost them over£30 million, and they've spent£600 million on transfers and were worse than they were when they came in. that's a hell of a CV for Wilcox, Barada and Sir Jim. So they won't do it. They'll keep sticking with this, hoping for a miracle, which is actually worse than we've ever been. Because at least with Jose, Van Gaal, Ten Hag and Oli, sackings were made at the right time.

28:35You know, it got to a point when it needed to happen, even though they didn't want to do it, the Glazers would do it. Ineos won't sack a manager. They won't sack this guy. They'll just keep letting it get worse and worse and worse. So look, amour him in or amour him out. He ain't going anywhere. Get down on your knees and pray that a miracle happens. But they have to be active in the January transfer window, in my opinion. But whether they will be or not, they have to be. They have to be. But the scary thing about that is that if we'd beaten Wolves, they wouldn't have bought anyone. Now we've drawn to Wolves, they might be going, we need to buy someone.

29:13The fact the fact that conor gallagher or ruben neves isn't lined up now is is scary like ruben neves in that midfield would make us better um conor gallagher in that midfield would make us better i thought agate and casemiro would just bang average you know bang average yesterday um that i i i don't i don't want to read this but i'll give um i'll give some credit here to um I think it was Beth who dropped this in our chat last night. So, look, actually, it was a tweet from Tyrone Marshall in the Manchester Evening News. West Ham, no wins in eight before they came to Manchester United and drew.

29:52Bournemouth, no wins in 10 before they came to Manchester United and drew. And Wolves, no wins in 15 before they came to Manchester United and drew. Our home record is absolutely pitiful. And you know what? I just want to shout out our fan base. Yet again, yesterday, the Stretford end was incredible. You know, the best ground, I mean, we can't replicate what they do in Europe, but, you know, Premier League grounds are notoriously quite timid. The Stretford end yesterday with the flags and the banners was absolutely incredible. So let's never try and say that the home record is because the fans don't give an atmosphere.

30:31Yet again, the fans turned up in the numbers and gave an atmosphere and the players didn't turn up. So I don't know what's going on with our home record. It's uninspiring. But in my opinion, the players have given up. The players have given up. I would not be surprised this morning if we started getting news articles about players being unhappy because they need to deflect the blame as well. But yeah, look, let me get some of your comments. Totally Alfie said, you say he may as well have walk if he dropped points to leaves. He may not have the players, but I think it's obvious his system doesn't work in this league.

31:04I don't think he will walk Alfie I mean I know Terry said Amram needs to resign All I'd say to Terry is if you were on a job That if you get sacked from it You're going to get 15 million pounds Would you walk away I mean huge respect If you would Why should you give These knobheads in charge A free paycheck You know they've fucked up As much as you know I think they're totally responsible, to be honest with you. So why would he walk? The biggest problem is that the players are being bought in are also not good enough, says Andre. Look, it's hard to say this without it coming across negative. But did he want Sesko?

31:44No. It's well known. I mean, you know it. I think you do. He didn't want Sesko. And it always I've said this so many times and so many of you have as well. Many things get said in the summer and then get forgotten when we start playing football. So in the summer when he didn't get midfielders, everybody was saying, we must remember that Ineos fucked him over. So if things go bad, we must remember that it's Ineos that fucked him. But we don't. Amor him out, amor him out. And no one talks about Ineos. But in the summer when there's no games and there's plenty of time to reflect and discuss and debate, people go, if this goes wrong, it's on Ineos because not buying a midfielder is criminal and he needed a midfielder.

32:26And they didn't buy him one.

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33:11But it is his sixth choice. He didn't want Sesco. He just factually didn't want him. He wanted Ollie Watkins over Sesco. You know, Ollie Watkins is 30. Sesco is a prospect. so is Amrim wrong for wanting Olly Watkins over Sesko I mean loads of people wanted Sesko because he's young he's exciting he could be here for a long time Jason Wilcox was there with the banner for that so was Favell but maybe Amrim was like I ain't got time for this I've got too many prospects I need a guy that delivers now um so look I like Sesko I hope he can do well at Man United I certainly don't think we play to his strengths but it wasn't the guy that Amrin wanted you know and how many more players are not what Amrin wanted um I saw Beth say Ricky took his grandson to the United game thinking United would beat Wolves and then to watch that shit show it's heartbreaking says Mrs Stone so many parents took their kid to their first man United game last night tactically a win you know if you're taking your kid to your first man United game Wolves at home is the most open goal game of the season and we still didn't win think about all those kids and their first impressions ruined by that shit last night uh people blaming lording individual players as saviors destroyers of united don't see this is a systematic thing absence of talent on the pitch and boardrooms is listy uh all things vinny says all things vin says inios need to go but that wouldn't make amrin better he talks a good talk but i've not seen anything from him yet and his coaching is awful.

34:45No, I agree with you. But if Ineos go, Amrim's gone anyway. No new owner keeps the manager. So Glazers and Ineos are at fault, but when will Amrim be responsible? No style of play or vision. His substitutions, it's getting frustrating. Oh, look, Gary, I'm not, I'm not. I totally respect people who say Amrim out because you can't have a win ratio of 40 % in the Premier League this season and overall below 35 in his time here. We're a year down the line. We're more confused than ever. He's basically become a Portuguese ollie. His tactics and substitutions are so negative. It's abysmal. I think they got booed at half time yesterday as well, which, you know, each their own.

35:31But I mean, I don't I mean, look, I should have done this at the start. Apologies. I don't know where we do this every few weeks. you know sometimes after good results sometimes after bad results where are we at amram in or amram out get you voting except bruno and pogba name one world-class player below 30 united bought post sir alex pogba failed but every other player below 30 were not world-class says rimos blaming blaming inios more laughable than blaming the manager we are lucky barada and wilcox will see through all this bullshit and actually stick to the job says ryan ryan incredibly brave respect, but I've got no idea what you're talking about.

36:10So you don't agree with blaming Ineos. You think it's more laughable to blame the manager. And we're lucky that Barada and Wilcox will see through the bullshit and stick to the job. OK, that's got to be a troll. Happy New Year. What you are saying would take one billion in players bought in one single summer. And what's with the people like you? You are just the same, says Kalev. Again, apologies, everybody. Another a strange comment. I don't know what that's all about. Rajaf says, I went to bed because I had work and thought it was an easy win. Planning to watch the replay. I saw the score and skipped the highlights.

36:43Watched Arsenal, Odegaard's Aura, Unreal, says Rajaf. I mean, Rajaf, you're not a United fan. I would definitely not watch Man United Wolves back on a replay. There's a saying in my language that translates to, you are what you surround yourself with. If you're surrounding fisherman, you are fisherman, says Seth. If Cunha and Mberma are infected already by the culture in this club, can they be reversed and get back to how they were at their respective clubs? It might already be too late, David. I mean, I thought Cunha last night was shit. I never thought that he would be that crap in a Man United shirt so quick, but he was crap because it's infectious.

37:19You know, I've said it so many times, right? If you're somebody that works in a company and you're there early and you work really hard and you out achieve everybody and you're really talented and you're so good at your job consistently week in, week out, day in, day out. You're an absolute superstar. And then you get headhunted by another company and you go to that company with the intention of being what you were at the other company. But when you get there, everybody's got their feet up. Nobody's doing any work. How long before you become like that? That's what I'm saying, the culture in the club destroys players.

37:54If we had the same culture at Brentford as Brentford had last season and the same work ethic, you'd get the same Mbermo. But amazingly, Brentford and Wolves have a better work ethic and a better culture than us. And Wolves are about to get relegated. That's the problem. They're not shit players. They become shit and lazy at Man United. and that reflects on the owners more than the manager because they set the tempo they set the culture you know if i'm the owner of the football club i'm in carrington a few times a week and i'm saying what's going on here why why is this not working you know the sacrificial lambs never happened as well you know unfortunately we've never done that rashford was not a sacrificial lamb rashford plays for fucking barcelona he's in a better place um ganacheo's not a sacrificial lamb he fell out with Amrim.

38:45You know, we've not actually done the things that need to be done. The strategic review hasn't actually happened. Chip says, all the major long-term decisions Ineos has made has been shit. Eric Ten Hag, new contract. Amrim appointed. Ashworth, slow rebuild. The bold cyclist guy, strategic review. How about making a decision for the here and now, says Chip. Pogba's fault. Who are you? Graham Souness, SL. I mean, these are the people I'm talking about. You know, you mention a name and they're instantly focused in on that. What are you talking about, Pogba's fault. What? Oh, oh, oh, oh, I sound like bloody Gavin and Stacey.

39:21I know what you're on about. Yeah, well, no, I'm not going back on that. The player culture started with the Pogba dressing room. He was in it. I could say, I can't think of any other players that were in that dressing room at the time. But mate, if you want a history lesson, the night before a big Champions League game, Pogba's agent put a shithouse of an interview out, slagging the club and the manager off. So player FC sacked Mourinho and it's been here ever since. So when I say Pogba, I just can't think of any other players that were in the dressing room at the time. It's been a long time, but that's where it started.

39:57Our dressing room has been shit ever since we sacked Mourinho. So it's been going on for 10 years, mate. Ineos out, Conte in, says, I would love Conte. I don't care. I'm in the minority. I would love Conte at Man United. I've said it for ages. Ages. I would love Conte at Man United, but it will never happen with an ownership like this because they're bloody cowards and they need a puppet. They don't need a lion. They need a puppet. Southgate will be next. Someone like that. Fitting end to a crap year, says Mr. Hand. Clueless manager, insufficient squad and shambolic ownership structure. All the best for 2026.

40:34We all deserve so much better. Well, look, happy new year to everybody. We have got more content for you today. Beth's live at two. We've got an eight o 'clock show, but I won't be live again before 2026. So look, it's been an absolute shit. Has there been a worse year than this in the Premier League for Man United? There can't be. There can't be a worse calendar year. I know seasons don't run calendar years but if you think about the end of last season in may we finished 15th and we lost the europa league cup final to spurs and then this five months of the season we've got a win ratio of 40 now some will say we're only two points off fourth that's because the premier league shit but it's been a it's been a horrific year um things can hopefully only get better but the reality is they can get worse actually um they can actually get worse um shinzu says since the owners are crap and refuse to give any manager what they want you need an adaptable manager bizarrely the appointed amram who is the complete opposite of that of that that's crap decisions yeah yeah you do i think if you've got no money um you need a manager that's you know like you say adaptable we bring in a manager i mean you make a great point shin basically what shin's saying is that United don't have the money to back a manager.

41:56They don't have very good players. So you need a manager that can play multiple systems and get the most out of what he's got. That is not Amrim. Amrim plays one system. It's very, very niche and it needs huge backing. So well done, Ineos. You've brought in exactly what you can't work with. Well done. Pre-arrange a coach for summer by at least two players of his preference in January, since Amrim could get none of his. four more in the summer and hopes, says Tripp. How Bruno gets dragged into this is embarrassing, says Ryan, yet he's not getting dragged into it, mate. Although he is involved in it because so is Deleu.

42:33But you know what, mate? You're the problem. You are the problem, Ryan, because you've fallen into the trap. You're not listening. What part of this show makes it about Bruno Fernandes? It's about Ineos. It's about the Glazers. what I'm saying is you got idiots last night making it about Bruno this is what happened when Bruno doesn't play like when Bruno does play with the best team in the league Bruno might have won us the game last night but we're still shit with him in the team he plays in the midfield the manager doesn't even pick him in the right position he's a number 10 and he plays him in the midfield and we've lost loads of games because of that so Bruno is irrelevant is what I'm saying.

43:14With or without him, why are people talking about it? Because we've lost games with him and we'll lose games without him. I don't think we're better without him, but it's not about him. It's about Ineos. But there'll still be morons out there with their Bruno t-shirts, making it... Mate, get yourself on social media. There are people out there that think the problem is because Bruno didn't play. They think if Bruno plays, we'd have won and everything'd be okay. Hey, absolute morons. They're morons. I'm sorry. With or without Bruno, the problems are still the same. They are, 100%. Cycle keeps getting shorter.

43:52I'm not saying don't sack him, but who's the next hit manager? Ineos came in and somehow made the club worse. So many mistakes, says John. Look, I'll say it for you now. I'd rather see Barada and Wilcox sacked before Amrim because a proper CEO and a proper director of football wouldn't put up with Amrim anyway. so if you're asking me in order of who I'd sack Barada, Wilcox, then Amrim because a good director of football and a good CEO would sort the bloody football club out it's a joke the team are now playing like the owners no drive and no ambition it's filtered down from the top says Chris Amrim is going you won't give me what I want I'm struggling and you guys are not backing me so I'm going to fail might as well fail on my terms says Seth well didn't he say after the game last night that he's confident that we're going to become a great team

44:41mate you're losing the fans that i it's hard to come back from that any big club would be working on the gelsman or tucal after the world cup but this ownership will let it run to july before making their mind ups as james spot on mark inios has to go but i don't think that's going to happen as long as they have the project that's going to get them and the glazes of millions of pounds as andy yeah they're not going anywhere build the stadium that's all they're interested in um trish says Amrim told Ashworth told them not to hire Ruben he won't work at Manchester United and they sacked him they hired the guy and didn't listen to his opinion well you don't know that that's just a that's a myth you don't know that um and I think Dan Ashworth's a bag of shit to be honest I don't think he's very good at his job either so I'm not going to wander down conspiracy theories that Dan Ashworth was the great savior and Ineos sacked him they never should have appointed him in the first place um his track record's not actually that good a lot of the good stuff at Newcastle was done before he was there um I don't think Dan Ashworth deserves a glow up.

45:35I'm sorry. Ruben should have gone after that final debacle, says Rhys. I think Amrin was recently enforced to play youth, says Melch. I mean, you make a good point. Has Amrin basically just become a bitch to somebody who's told him to play a back four and pick the youth as well? Because he wasn't using the youth and he wasn't playing a back four and now he is. I get the owners, but they aren't picking the team. A back five at United doesn't work. I've never known a manager to obsess over defensive subs, says Sean Turner. Thank you, Sean. How was Wilcox and Barada doing well at City but not at United?

46:06It's Glynios. It's all the way to the top, says Mrs Stone. Barada was a CEO at a football club that chucks money at everything. Wilcox was a youth coach at City and had one year as a director of football at Championship Southampton. They're not. They're prospects. Everything we do is prospects. We needed lions. We recruited kittens. That's what United's policy is all over the place. you know, Amirim is a prospect, Barada is a prospect, Wilcox is a prospect, Sesco is a prospect, Jorow is a prospect.

46:44It's baffling. We're obsessed with Chelsea, basically, but we don't even do what Chelsea do. And look at what Chelsea do, bottle top four. It was like watching the turgid crap towards the end of the 10-Harg era, says Simon, but also insert any manager's name in the past 10 years. Do you think Ineos would rather spend 100 million if it means Europa qualification or would they settle for ninth and spend in the summer, says GGM yet. God knows, mate. I don't know what their plan is. Can't fully support the club until the Glazers are gone. Need to look at what Sheffield Wednesday fans did to get change.

47:13Every time you buy a shirt, go to a game, you are supporting the continued pillage of the club, says Rob. Happy birthday, Sir Alex. We miss you, says Mrs Stone. No manager will ever do it. Glazer out is our only chance, says Forza. What's the point of the sacks, says Mrs Stone. New manager, new ego, new favourites, same shit, because same shit owners. Look, I can tell you what a new manager will come in. I know what happened. Sack Amrim. Give the job to Glasner. He'll come in. He'll love Deleuze. He'll love Luke Shaw. He'll love Bruno. He'll love Casemiro. He'll love Maguire. We'll have the same leadership team and he'll get sacked in a year.

47:48If you're Amrim in by extension, you're back in, Eos, says class of 99. Loser or drawing with Wolves is like turning down a free meal and telling them that we want to work for it, says Maliki. You said anything less than three points, he's got to go, says Robbo. Mark at what point does the manager need to go says Kyle and are you Barney Stinson in disguise because the resemblance is in Cani says Amit okay Daniel Thompson says hope you're well Mark and United Stan thank you for the brilliant shows in 2025 despite United being dreadful you and United Stan community are fantastic happy new year mate happy new year to everybody look as I said I'm not going to sit here and say I told you so.

48:25I found it quite alarming over the last two weeks, the amount of comments from people saying, stop moaning, stop being negative. But I'll do it my way and you should do it your way. I've done it like this for 10 years. I don't moan as an act and I don't celebrate as an act and I don't get positive and excited as an act and I don't get negative and moany as an act. I wear my heart on the sleeve when it comes to this football club because I care about it and I go with my mood. And my mood over the last two weeks has been very, very, very negative and very, very concerned. But I hope last night, as a minimum, regardless of what you think, and you must think and do what you want to do.

49:07But for those saying, oh, he's always moaning this, that and the other. If you don't understand why after last night, I can't help you. That last night is exactly why I'm moaning and exactly why I'm negative, because I'm so fed up of this shit. And apparently moaning about this shit is negative. But my focus has been always on Ineos and the Glazers. They are an absolute poison. They are a cancer to this football club and we are dying. And I know that's a very harsh analogy, but in a footballing sense, we are dying. We are slowly dying and people are applauding it. You know, if you want an analogy, what the Glazers have done over the last 20 years is loosely put a noose around the neck of Manchester United and slowly tighten it.

49:59And with every titan, people have just sat back and watched and sometimes applauded. But that's what they're doing. They're slowly killing the club in front of your eyes. And some people can't see it. That's what's happening to Manchester United. we're slowly dying. Everything we're about, everything we were, everything we can be is becoming more and more distant. And it amazes me that people think we're under new ownership. The new ownership, if you think it's a new ownership, isn't a new ownership. So Jim doesn't even own 30%. 50 % of this club is Glazer owned. He just owns a little bit of it.

50:33He's making us worse and the people who've destroyed us are still there. So you're there being positive and hopeful about something that hasn't changed and is actually killing us and no one wants to do anything about it. Who would you choose in the summer? Deschamps or Pochettino, says Jojo. Mate, honestly, I can't get excited about that. I know some of you do and that's fine, but I can't get excited about that. There's nothing about a new manager that excites me because I know we're going to be back where we are very, very quickly. The solution is not the manager. That's not going to change a hell of a lot.

51:13Look, I'll be blunt. Finishing second, 25 points behind Man City is not progress.

51:23Finishing eighth and winning the FA Cup is not progress. It's better than finishing 15th, but it's not progress. And I think this is where people go wrong. I've seen people go, what are you moaning for? We're better than we were last season. That's not progress. If you have standards of where Man United should be, Progress is not being eighth and winning the FA Cup. Progress is not being second and being 25 points behind Man City. Progress is not finishing fifth. Not for Manchester United, it's not. That's not progress. That's just better than last season. where we should be is playing good football with a vision on a pathway to winning the Premier League I've not seen that since Alex Ferguson left and I don't think I'll see that for a very long time I agree you might bring a manager in that gets his third Ten Haag got his third and was sacked within 18 months Mourinho got a second and was sacked within six months nothing no progress we supposedly make is ever sustainable.

52:23If you get in the top three, you'll be out of it the next year. If you finish second, you'll be out of it the next year. In fact, you'll be out of a job. This is not progress. Progress is a vision. It's sustainable. It's got performance behind it. It's got foundation behind it. Everything else we've done in the last 10 years is just chancing it. It's not sustainable. You finish second, you're gone the next year. You win the Carabao Cup, you win the FA Cup, you're sacked the next year. Nothing ever is built with longevity or structure or vision. It's not. Danny says, born in the 90s, not in the 80s, but I still see us win it all.

52:59Didn't Sir Alex also start with a low win ratio? Would a new manager change things, says Danny. I mean, I don't think you can go back to Sir Alex Ferguson and start at Man United and compare it to Reuben Amrin, mate. I mean, I barely remember it because even I was young then, but yeah, you can't compare it. Jeff, I completely agree with you. Removing Ranyik killed the hope of improvement. I mean, some people get it. Some people ignore it. I've said it a few times myself. I think the removal of Ranyik, that was an opportunity. And that's why a lot of people still talk about it. Ranyik was an opportunity because he could have rebuilt the football club and they fucked it.

53:37Will the fans go on strike? This is shit, says Rajaf. No. Can't rely on United. All I want to do is watch match of the day happily says simon uh tab says i'm not arim out i'm not glaze i'm not glinios out i'm local fans out you are the ones not able to remove these owners this would never happen in any other club oh come on mate that's a bit silly ashworth walked because he knew arim wasn't the guy why not that why is that not being spoken about because it's a myth it's not true dave um i am destroyed still up till four with bad health and ended up vomiting this morning and now may miss the year ending panic picnic hopefully absolutely disgraceful says tech we'll get well soon pal hope you're feeling better uh the problem is with the club and not with the manager i back 10 hog and i'm not going to throw amarin under the bus either says karan um don't worry they'll turn up next week and he'll get praised as totally i'll be mate we probably will beat leeds and burnley and then all the positivity toxic shit will come back and we will be ridiculed again but give it time because we'll be back here in reality very very quick so we probably will beat leads in Burnley.

54:38And then, as I say, all of us who are, you know, realists will be called the problem. But I don't, I don't doubt it for one minute, really. I don't, you know, we will win some games, of course.

55:01I mean, look, this, this comment from Nicky Butt is basically, I hadn't read it it basically summarized everything we've just said um he says this is from nicky but he says for me it's fundamentally that the club is rotten from the bottom up at the moment if you bought prime sir alex ferguson back in he wouldn't be able to turn it around straight away it would still take time if you put pep or klopp it wouldn't work either ultimately think i think the players were buying and the players that were able to buy aren't at the level we used to have so it's about accepting the fact that it's going to take five to eight years in order to get the club back to anywhere near winning the Premier League it's been a shit show um and that's if you've got the right people in charge but he's right you know and in a way Nicky Book's a hypocrite not a hypocrite contradicting himself because he says fundamentally the club is rotten from the top to bottom and it will take many years to get it sorted but they're not the right people to do it if the club is rotten from top to bottom.

55:58So he's right. It's a shit show. It's going to take years to get us back. But that clock doesn't start until you remove the shit. There are still people in our fan base that go, well, it wasn't going to get better overnight. It will take time. But listen, listen, listen, right? He's worked in the football club, Nicky Buck. He walked. He worked at the football club and he left because he didn't like the way it was being run. It will take years to get us back. But that's only when you remove the shit. It's not going to take six years from now because all the shit's there. You've got to remove that.

56:34You can't build a house on a swamp. It will sink. So you need to move from the swamp first onto strong foundations, then take your time to build the house. So don't fall into the trap that the current project's going to take years. The current project is shit. It can't be built like this. It will keep getting worse. not until we have the right structure can we rebuild well we don't have the right players we probably don't have the right manager and we certainly don't have the right owners so don't fall into the trap of it's going to take Sir Jim three years that won't work that won't work it's about tearing it all down and then it will take three years it won't work with this lot happy new year all and always look on the bright side of life says Gav at least we got each other you You know, that's the I mean, what would we do without this?

57:22What would we do without this community? Absolutely spot on. Make sure you smash the like on the video and subscribe, by the way. We have got another. We had a Christmas Day treat for you last week with a Ben Jacobs interview dropping in the morning. We've got another Ben Jacobs interview on New Year's Day for you dropping in the morning so I can recover because I will be a little bit hungover. I'll definitely be having a drink tonight. So, yeah, but we've got that and I'll probably go live around to tomorrow just when I'm up and ready. But we have got that for you tomorrow as well.

57:59We have a quick look here. I just want to catch up on your comments. But, yeah, fundamentally, totally respect everybody who's angry about. You know, there are standards at this football club and you are upholding them. All I would say is I do think you'll be back in the same position very quickly when you sack Amrim and replace him, because how can you back or support or trust these owners who haven't got a bloody clue what they're doing? And surely Wilcox and Barada need sacking as well. Ineos need to go. They're an absolute, they're destroying this football club. I just don't understand. And one thing I would say, journalists are parasites.

58:37Let's be honest. You know, that's a well-established rule. They're also client journalists at Manchester United. And a client journalist is somebody who is basically a bitch to the club. They get stuff from the club and they put it out, but they don't question the club. So 99 % of the journalists around Man United are just there to feed out propaganda. They won't do anything negative. The ex-player community can be a mixed bag But, and the media as we know, is a waste of time Nobody, nobody apart from you Can say what the real problem is at Man United Nobody this morning will talk about what the real problem is All the radio stations, all the TV stations It will just be about Amrim Because it's the easy sell Sack the manager, bring a new manager in And they get the glow up They make a load of money from sacking the manager and they get a load of call-ins from that.

59:28And then a new manager comes in and they get a load from that. They are just on a cycle. We need to remove the owners of the football club. That's what we need to do. Probably impossible, but that's the only way. They are the people that appoint the manager. They are the people that back the manager. They are the people that don't back the manager in the transfer window. They are the people that spend hundreds of millions of on shit. They are the problem. And the reason some clubs are better than us is because they've got better owners. Owners are point and sack managers. Managers don't run the finances.

1:00:05Managers don't recruit the director of football and the CEO. The owners do everything. The owners run the football club. They are responsible. And as Gav says, this deflection from the media and journalists onto the manager is baseless. The manager is under fire. He's under pressure. I'm not saying keep him. But how many more times are we going to go around this road? I'm bored. It's like a roundabout. It's boring. I've seen it so many times. Change the fucking roundabout. Change the owners. It needs to happen. Ineos needs to go. Can't listen to this, says Ryan. And I don't know if you saw, but Kunja shouted back with fans walking off the pitch.

1:00:45Dello was giving dirt and looks to fans booing him outside back at square one, which is totally healthy. Look, I don't rate Deleu. It's not, I don't blame Deleu for the problems at Man United, but I could go through loads of players. Luke Shaw's a waste of space. Tactically, he should have been took, he shouldn't have started the game. There's no, it was almost like a bloody job for the boys. It was like a work experience. We didn't need Luke Shaw. That whole left centre-back thing was a waste of time. We only needed two centre-backs. They had one player up front. Luke Shaw was just a waste of space.

1:01:15he shouldn't have started we should have played a back four and we could have had an extra attacker and we would have won the game if Luke Shaw had been dropped yesterday and we played a back four or Luke Shaw had played left back and Dorgue played on the right we'd have won the game that three at the back killed us too many defenders not enough attackers simple as that but look in relation to Deleu he's not a Man United player he's rubbish he's absolutely rubbish I don't know who he would start for actually in the Premier League. That's how bad I think he is this season. I don't think he would start for anybody in the top 10.

1:01:51Would he start for Crystal Palace? No. Would he start for Everton? I don't think he'd start for Everton actually. Maybe. They're in the top 10. He wouldn't start for Brighton. Yeah, he's not very good. And the long throw-ins, I figured it out yesterday, he can't even throw it very far. But that's on the manager. That's on the manager saying, right back, run to the left wing and throw a throw-in into the box. It's incredible. but you know that's part of the problem if Amarim is picking Deleu and making him do long throw-ins whose fault is it? Ineos they're watching the same game as us we're losing our shit about it but we've got no power they control the football club and they're letting him do it that's on them that's on them um right thank you everybody for watching we are back to oh hold on a minute this is interesting.

1:02:38I'm quite intrigued by this. 40 % are still Amri Min and 60 % are Amri out. I am surprised that 40 % of you are still backing this manager. I am. Where am I? If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to be Amri Min to the end of the season. I wouldn't sack him now Because I think there's better managers available in the summer And I don't want Darren Fletcher as an interim And I don't want Oli Gunnar Solskjaer back And I don't want a manager that's available now So I would have to wait until the summer But After last night I thought more people would be Amrim out Because there's a lot of angry People out there I don't really think I can vote on Amrim in or Amrim out I think he's going to get the sack but I think we have to get to the summer because there's a better market.

1:03:35I mean, it terrifies me that they'd sack him before the summer and give the job to Southgate. And you know what'll happen in the summer? Tuchel will be available. Nagelsmann will be available. Ancelotti might be available. Yeah. Thanks everybody for watching. Take care and we'll see you on the next one. Thank you for everyone today. Stay safe and happy new year if I don't speak to you before. let's hope next year's a better one

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The draw against Wolves is the final straw. While Ruben Amorim is rightfully under fire for a tactical disaster at Old Trafford, we have to look at the bigger picture. Sacking another manager is just a band-aid on the deep rot within the INEOS ownership.

The "new era" is failing, recruitment is a mess, and the club has lost its soul. It’s time to stop blaming the dugout and start holding the board accountable. The fans shouldn't just be disappointed—they should be protesting. We’re watching the decline of Manchester United in real-time, and enough is enough.

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