288: Bruno and Mainoo Can Go?

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0:39It maintains wood's natural color and provides durable year-round protection from water and sun damage in just one coat. Save big money on Thompson's Water Seal Products. Our knowledgeable team is ready to help bring your dreams to life one gallon at a time. Stop by your local Menards today. Save big money at Menards. Hello everybody, good morning, welcome to the United Stands. I'm Mark Goldbridge and this is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news this Friday morning. As a story breaks that Manchester United could be willing to let Bruno Fernandes go in January and do want him gone in the summer.

1:17There's also more on Mateta, Xerxi coming in as well and a little bit around Maynou that should he stay or should he go, but he wants to stay, but the United want him to go, all that to get into as well. and also it's bloody cold this morning it's bloody cold i'm a little bit late this morning because i've been out to get a little bit of the haircuts which most people will never notice with me because when i get my haircut it's always the same style it's just slightly shorter um but we had a bit of snow overnight in the uk and um normally it's a 10 minute drive to my hairdressers it took me about 30 minutes because there's not many cars on the road but the cars that on the road are driving like Noddy who's had a bloody stroke.

1:56It was, just don't drive in the, if you don't want to drive in the snow, don't drive. And people will go, well, maybe they've got to get somewhere. Well, learn to drive in the snow then. I mean, we're talking slower than bloody Matic in midfield. Bag of cement drivers, absolute idiots. But I'm home now, I've had my air cut, I've got a lovely cup of tea and I'm with you lot, which is the main thing. So I hope you're doing very well this morning and we'll get straight into it. Ah, that's lovely. That's lovely. So lots to get into this morning. I'm going to lead on this Bruno Fernandes story because there is an undercurrent to this that's always been there.

2:32And essentially what we've got is this report coming in from let me get it for you here. It's just loading it up. So Football Insider Transfer News Live says Manchester United are planning to sell Portugal midfielder Bruno Fernandes and are not ruling out the possibility of a January exit. The Portugal international has a 52.5 million release clause, which can be triggered by clubs outside of the Premier League. So this is rather interesting because this... I'm just getting more stuff being sent in for me as well.

3:15Lovely club.

3:18Effectively, Bruno Fernandes could have been sold in the summer. and he very nearly did go. He spent a lot of time thinking about it. He felt underappreciated. This is not lies. This is not sensationalist. This is all factual. He nearly left in the summer. United could have got a lot of money. He stayed. Amrim wanted him to stay. The club wanted him to stay. A month ago, an interview came out saying that he nearly went because he felt underappreciated. The club denied that. So there is still this thing going on between Bruno Fernandes and the club, which is not stable. It's just been forgotten about amongst Christmas and bad results.

4:00That interview he did just before Christmas basically was as bad in some people's eyes as mainly his brother wearing the T-shirt because he was saying, you know, the club don't appreciate me. So it's not a stable situation. So when you get this coming out that Bruno is up for sale and people go, never, the club would never do it. You've got to tell the story. They were thinking about doing it in the summer. And Bruno says he feels underappreciated. So it's not necessarily as sensational as people might be going in the chat going, we'll never do it. Because Bruno himself feels underappreciated.

4:37The club themselves nearly did it in the summer. So this is a trajectory towards a sale in the summer. What I know is what I know from what we've seen publicly. But what I also know from sources in the club is that Bruno will be gone in the summer. If we're not in Europe, he'll go. He won't stay at Man United. And if we are in Europe, he still might go, dependent on what Man United qualify for and what he feels it's worthwhile. Well, basically what I was told is if United qualify for the Champions League, he still might go because he might look at the quality of the league and what United are going to do in the summer.

5:18Because he's been at the club when we've qualified for the Champions League and then not been in it the following year. So he's not he's not naive enough to be, well, if we qualify for the Champions League, I'll stay because he's 32. He's 32 this year. So the chances are that unless Bruno Fernandes sees Champions League qualification and a proper vision, for the future, he probably won't stay. And what are the chances that in the next five months we're going to qualify for the Champions League and show Bruno Fernandes that we've got a vision to compete for the Premier League and the Champions League?

5:51It's very, very slim. So I think he'll go in the summer. Somebody said to me about two weeks ago, it's more than 50-50 whether he'll go. And I think 50-50 is worrying, but they were saying it's more than 50-50. They wouldn't give me a percentage, but they said it's more than 50-50 slanting towards him leaving than staying. So, I mean, that could be 55-45. It could be 60-40. It could be 70-30, but it's more than 50-50 apparently. So he will go in the summer. There's a very high chance of it. But we cannot do this in January. This is where I draw a line under this. This has to not happen because I don't think there's a United fan out there.

6:33I don't even think Ricky would agree with selling Bruno Fernandes in January. That cannot happen. The reality is it can. The release clause is there and it can be triggered from clubs outside of the Premier League in January. So if somebody comes up and spends£56 million, they could do it. But I don't think anyone's going to do that in January. I can't see a club that would need to do that. PSG, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Barcelona, they don't desperately need to spend£56 million on Bruno Fernandes in January. And I don't think the Saudis have the£56 million release clause. I think that there's a different clause for them.

7:09So I don't see it happening and it can't happen. In fact, I would say about Bruno Fernandes, by all means, move him on in the summer. I think we should have done it last summer. But it's such a symbolic thing to do that you've got to give you. You can't just sell him in January. you know you need to strategically plan what you're going to do we should have done it last summer but we're going to do it it's got to be next summer you can't do it now for me it's the same as it's the same as Amrim like if we're going to sack Amrim wait till the end of May don't do it now and if you're going to sell Bruno wait till the end of May don't do it now I'm absolutely adamant that that is not a good idea and some people won't understand that because they'll go, oh, how can you be, how can you be hammer him in, but you don't rate him, but then you'd sack him in May?

7:59Because it's all about timing, isn't it? It's all about timing. You know, you don't dump your girlfriend two days before Christmas Eve. You wait till after Christmas Eve so you can get your presents. You know, it's all about timing. And people might say that's harsh and ruthless. And some of you probably would dump your girlfriend two days before Christmas Eve. But you know what? I've just got a brand new PS5 and I can still dump her the day after Boxing day. That's ruthless. But I'm happy. She's unhappy. But she'd be unhappy anyway. And I wouldn't have a PS5. So it's all about timing. I think.

8:33And I also think that's a good lesson because all you Amrim outers, you're dumping them before Christmas Eve. You're not getting your present, are you? You can still say, let's remove Amrim after Christmas and get your presents. So for me, that's the way Man United should look at it. And it's the same with Bruno. I would take the money for Bruno in the summer when I know I can do a proper rebuild, but I wouldn't take the presents now. I mean, I just wouldn't. No chance. So, look, I don't know whether anything will come to pass. But what I would say is that, you know, sometimes you see a story and you know stuff and you go, you know what?

9:14I do think there's something in that. I do think there is something in that. I do think Bruno's on a trajectory to leaving this summer. I said that last summer and nothing has changed. I was quite surprised when Bruno did that interview, basically slating the ownership. Not because of putting us into debt, not because they're crap owners, but because they don't appreciate Bruno. The players couldn't give a toss about the Glazers or Ineos. They've got no interest in that. As long as they've got money going in the bank account and they can drive into Carrington in a nice car, They couldn't give a toss about season ticket prices.

9:47They couldn't give a toss about debts. They couldn't give a toss that we're a shadow of our former self. They're just paid players. Bruno's not happy with the club because they haven't begged him to stay and given him a new contract or whatever it is. But he's not happy with the club. I think they know they need to cash in and I think it'll happen in the summer. But you've got to remember as well, there is a big player in this game and that's Ruben Amarim, who absolutely, every opportunity he can, speaks glowingly about Bruno. So, you know, there's a bit of a, there's a bit of a, you know, collision point there in the summer if the club pushed to move him out and Amirim doesn't want him to go.

10:26But look at what's just happened to Maresca. How powerful is Amirim? I mean, you know, out of what happened to Maresca yesterday and how Man United copied the Chelsea model, how much power does Amirim actually have? I mean, one of the reasons Maresca is leaving Chelsea is because the fitness department have more of a say than him. So, you know, when you see Ruben Amrim subbing a player off after 60 minutes, some clubs, Chelsea, the manager's got no say in that. You know, the fitness department, overall, the manager, this player cannot play longer than this. He's got to come off. so I don't know how much power Amrim would actually have over Manchester United if they decided to sell Bruno Fernandes but I definitely think we're on the trajectory to him going I think Bruno's almost at the end of his tether anyway and I think the clubs see it as very good I mean look, we're run by the Glazers we're run by the Glazers imagine the Glazers have got a field full of cows right and some of the cows are young and they're going to grow into big bulls that you can get some money for.

11:38But then you've got a proud old bull that's on his last legs and soon will be retired. And then somebody comes and pays you really good money. They're going to be going, they're going to be all over it. You know, getting 50 million pounds for a 32 year old, they're going to think it's Christmas in the summer. So they will do it. They will do it. They will want to do it. and ultimately I think Bruno will want to go in the summer as well. I just think Amorim and some fans will be against it but I think we're on the trajectory to him leaving. I think the club are on board, and I know the club are on board with it and I know Bruno's on board with it.

12:19It's just about timing. And as I said, the only thing that I think could rescue it is if United suddenly looked like they were going to compete for the Champions League, compete for the Premier League and I don't think that's going to happen in five months. Is that a depressing thought, says Garfield Patterson? Look, we need Bruno Fernandes now. Nobody can argue with that. We need Bruno Fernandes now. We need him fit. He will massively enhance our chances of getting into Europe this year. Even in the midfield, he will help us.

12:52But we should, in my opinion, have started this project in the summer And I'd love to know which or how many incompetent fools on our board went against it. But we have to do that this summer. Slow Sports News says, I heard from a friend who's familiar with Lee Gallagher. What's Lee that Lee's in Madrid and says United are in for a permanent move for Conor, but still unclear. Slow Sports News there. I mean, not the best name when it comes to having a source, but we'll have to wait and see. OK, reminds me a little bit of Kev and his window cleaner at Old Trafford, Slow Sports News. But look, we'll have to wait and see.

13:34What I can tell you about Conor Gallagher is that Atletico Madrid are absolutely adamant they will not let him go on loan in January. So that's come out again from Spain overnight that Conor Gallagher can go, but they want money in January. There won't be a loan deal. So what will happen is United will not do a permanent deal and they will wait until the end of the window to see if Atletico Madrid will do a loan deal at the end of the window, which means we'll go all the way through January without bringing a midfielder in and maybe not getting a midfielder at the end of January. So that's what's going on with Conor Gallagher.

14:13So thanks very much to Slow Sports News, because I would have forgot to bring that in, that they are still saying only a loan deal. So United, you know, my opinion is this. I don't buy Conor Gallagher. You don't buy Conor Gallagher. We've got different opinions. I accept that. But the reality is United tried to get him in the summer and they're trying to get him again now. So it's clear that the board have decided Conor Gallagher is the guy they want. pay the money why are you obsessed with a loan deal just pay the money it's 25 million quid pay the money like just just do it you know or he's not good enough isn't it you know if you're not willing to buy him then don't buy somebody else but you know this obsession with a loan when do man united when does it ever work out for man united with a loan deal anyway so bits didn't work, Agarlo didn't work, Veghorst didn't work.

15:09They're either good enough or they're not. And try before you buy is quite rare for a big club anyway. When do Man City loan players? When do Arsenal loan players? When do Chelsea loan players? It's quite rare to do that. So you either do it or you don't. And that's my stance on it. I want to talk about Maynou and Mateta next, But Rogue 12, Rogue I2 says Ineos has to go. Look, on that point, I just want to say this. You know what? I saw Fabrizio Romano overnight basically say, and I'll give you the quote on this, and I thought this is, I've got to bring this into the morning show. Can't believe, it's so cold my cup of tea, which was hot five minutes ago, is cold.

15:55That's not acceptable. So this is what Romano said overnight. He basically said that Manchester United remain on their stance supporting and backing Ruben Amrim. United are not planning for anything different at this stage. So Romano will be well briefed saying that the club back and support Amrim and they're not looking to change anything at this stage. Now, Premier League predictions with me and Robbie is on That's Football at Midday today. Spoiler alert, Robbie predicted a Leeds win against Man United, right? But he said to me, if you lose that game, surely he's got to go. I said, mate, it's amazing that you can look in from the outside as an Arsenal fan.

16:37Four points clear at the top. Remembering the days of rivalry between United and Arsenal, Wenger and Sir Alex, Keane and Vieira. It's amazing that you, somebody I respect because we're around the same age and you remember the days of United versus Arsenal and the United success. it's amazing that you can sit there and go if we lose to Leeds at the weekend surely Amrim goes but I can tell you as a Man United fan there's no chance of that and he was like that's ridiculous and I went but that's Man United like that's what we are now those standards are in the mud and even rival fans look at it and go well surely if that happens on Sunday he's gonna go But we know he won't.

17:20So Ruben Amirim, sorry, Romano's update that United's stance is that they're still going to back this manager, even if he loses at the weekend and, you know, all the bad points we've dropped over December. But I'm calm about it because as somebody said there, Ineos need to go, the Glazers need to go. Why would I get angry or surprised or bothered about Ineos backing Amorim despite bad results? Why would I get frustrated about the Glazers being comfortable keeping Amorim despite bad football and bad results? To me, it's totally logical. They're shit owners. What do you expect? If they are shit owners, you're going to get shit decisions.

18:09You know, if they're clueless owners, you're going to get bad judgment. So to me, I'm sort of quite relaxed because I'm sort of like, what's the point in getting stressed about it? The problem at Man United are the owners. They're not going to have, you know, you're not going to get Romano saying Amrim's on thin ice. You know, meetings are taking place all the time about replacements. You know, that's what a proper football club would do. We've got bad owners, so they will double down on their bad decisions. If this was Liverpool, if this was Arsenal, if this was Chelsea, you'd be getting leaks out from Ornstein and Romano that United are really unhappy a year into this project.

18:51The results aren't what they expected and the manager is under pressure. that would be coming out from a proper football club but at man united no they're sure they've got the right guy you know they're confident they've got the right guy what what what makes you so sure and confident that you've got the right guy because any united fan i speak to even the ones that backhammer him won't say he's the right guy they'll just say he needs time let's give it to the end of the season the fact that united are putting it out there that they're confident in their decision and they're sticking with by the manager doesn't surprise me because bad decision makers make bad decisions so i don't really give a shit what romano or ornstein or any other good journalist says about what inios think about amrin because i don't give a shit what inios think about anything because i think the crap so people need to stop getting stressed about the updates that are coming out that the owners are going to back the manager bad owners bad decisions i don't know why by people you know you're almost trusting the owners to make the right choice you You know, you're almost like bothered about what they think.

19:56Like, oh, my God. You know, don't worry about it. They're crap owners. And, you know, that's all that matters. Don says, we are in sixth place. Use your eyes, brother. Yeah, but, mate, this is what I said last night. And this is what anybody with a brain realizes. Liverpool are in fourth and they're crap. Like, Liverpool fans are absolutely pulling their hair out with their team and they're fourth. And they're rubbish. I watched them last night. They are absolutely shit. and have been shit all season. Chelsea have just removed their manager and their fifth. And we are crap and we're sixth. The league is weird beyond the top three.

20:32There are three decent teams. The rest of the league is chaotic. And any other season, we'd probably be about ninth. But because it's just so weird, you're right. We are very close to Champions League qualification, despite being shit. Liverpool are in the Champions League spot, despite being shit. Like Newcastle are in the bottom half of the table. You know, it's a weird season. And you're absolutely right, Don. That is a reason why he will survive, because the league is just so chaotic. We could lose to Leeds and beat Burnley and still be in fifth place. I mean, figure it out, right? We've lost to Everton.

21:16I'm trying to figure it out. So Everton, no points. Crystal Palace, three points. I need to write this down. I need to talk about Maino and Arteta. So what was it? Everton 0. Why is this pen not working? 0, 3 against Palace. Then we drew against Bournemouth. Drew against West Ham. We beat somebody at home, didn't we? We lost to Villa. We beat Newcastle. And we drew against Wolves. That's our last seven games, isn't it? Lost to Everton. Beat Palace. Drew to Bournemouth. Drew to West Ham. Lost to Villa. Beat Newcastle. Drew against Wolves. So we've got five, nine points. Is that right? We've got nine points from one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

22:10From 21. Is that right? Oh, we beat Wolves as well. So we've got 12 from 24. So we've got 12 points from our last 24. And we've got... That was at home. That was at home.

22:38Everton was two points.

22:44I can't figure out how many points we've got from home. None from Everton, one from West Ham, one from Bournemouth, three from Newcastle. Is it six from 15 at home? Something like that? Six from 15 at home, I think. I think that would be right, wouldn't it? Yeah.

23:09Yeah.

23:13Six from 15 at home, yeah. so we've got 12 points from our last 24 got six points from our last 15 at home we could lose to leads at the weekend and beat burnley which would give us 15 from 30 and we'd still be in touching with the champions league how how can that happen how can you drop half your points and still be close to the champions league it's it's crazy um uh 12 points from 24 is not a 50 % win ratio. It's not a 50 % win ratio at all because we've only won three from 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. We've only won three from eight. So whatever three from eight is your percentage, not 50 % of the points.

24:03It's a weird season. Anyway, I digress on the Romano and the Ineos thing, but I wanted to get that in. Let me just catch up and see your points, and then I'm going to talk about this Menu and Mateta stuff. Michael Martin, who says, not cutting my hair until Mark starts five shows on time in a row.

24:27I don't know, is the honest answer.

24:44sorry sorry i don't know michael says i'm not cutting my hair until okay i i don't know whether anyone else gets this but over over the last few weeks i've seen a few people going i'm not cutting their hair until Man United win five, this, that and the other. Look, there's one guy who did the hair thing. It's still going. And I'm sort of looking at it and going, yeah, just leave it to him. Welcome to Members Club, GMAC. Thank you very much for getting your badge in in the new year. Welcome to 2026. Castle says, why would United let Bruno and Manu both leave? We'll talk about Mayna in a minute.

25:25Bruno will be the summer, mate. Why would you not let six players go in the summer? Paul says, Morning, Mark. We ain't selling Bruno mid-season even if we get offered 100 million. I bet we bloody would. I bet we bloody would. I bet we would.

25:45What keeps you supporting this great club? Mate, you don't abandon who you support just because they're run by idiots. You know, you choose your club. That's it. Rajaf says, excellent point made yesterday by you, Mark. Even if there are fans out there who think the players and the manager are 99 % of the problem, if you change the 1%, i.e. the owners, they change the 99. It's baffling that fans don't get this. Rajaf, it is an eternal, confusing point for me that there are literally fans out there that don't care about Ineos. They don't care about the Glazers. All they want to do is sack Amrim.

26:26And essentially, you change the owners, you get to change all of that. Stephen, welcome to the Members Club. Couple of members joining today. Thank you very much for that. Keel Robinson says the commercial success of Ronaldo and Messi has created messiah delusions in players and teams. Bruno can get lost. And Hitton says, Happy New Year to you and the family in United Stand. Happy New Year to you, mate. We must realise Amarim was never fully backed. Ineos and Co are scapegoating yet another manager, but sacking him mid-season is a blunder for us. Look, what I will say is, some of you would sack Amarim today and appoint Xabi tomorrow, right?

27:02Xabi comes in tomorrow. What's Xabi going to want to do? He's going to want to play good, quick possession football like he did at Barcelona. He's got no wingers. He's got no flair. He's got no ballers who can control the ball. and the team just isn't a Xavi team. He needs midfielders that are tenacious and good on the ball. He doesn't have that. He needs flair players that can create down the flanks. He doesn't have that. He would need... I don't think there's a manager in world football that can take this job.

27:50sorry i'm getting sent something here

28:03i don't think there's a manager that can take the job and succeed

28:11um ai says conte could do it but i don't think there are i don't think there's a manager that can take this job and succeed under this ownership now we're taking 10 steps ahead because they're not going to sack amrim and they're not going to leave the glazers are they but even if you do sack amrim i just don't i don't see a pathway what what what united are trying to do if nobody's realised it and you probably do need to realise this in 2026 because it'll make your life a little bit easier. The strategy at Man United is to scam Champions League football and utilise that money to keep getting Champions League football until we've built a new stadium and then when we've built a new stadium and we've paid it off we'll then hopefully be able to start winning things again but it's a flawed logic just because you've got a new stadium doesn't make you win things.

29:02look at Spurs, look at Arsenal, it doesn't. So at the end of the day, I think that there has to be an acceptance that all you're going to get out of this ownership is the occasional Champions League qualification where you will never win it, no Premier League title, and the occasional domestic trophy. Because increasingly, and you'll see it next weekend, the big clubs are going to take their eye off the ball with the FA Cup. There ain't no way Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle are picking strong teams in the FA Cup. So that will open the door to Crystal Palace, Man United to try and win that as Palace did last year.

29:44We're not going to win the Premier League and we're not going to win the Champions League with this ownership. All they're bothered about is the investment that Ineos have made into the Glazers to build a stadium that's going to make them double their money. That's the big play. This is like putting your money in a long-term interest high account where you can double your money in five years' time. That's the only reason Ineos and Glazers are working together is to build that stadium, regenerate the area with the government and double their money. Double your money, try to get rich. That's what they're trying to do.

30:18The football is a byproduct. There is an element of importance with the football because they can't be in 15th place. They can't get relegated. They do need European football, but they're not going to invest to win the Premier League. That's not going to happen. If I could get an interview with Barada or Wilcox or Sir Jim on a lying detection test and I said to them, will you do what it takes to win the Premier League? Are you and have you got the funds to support this club to win the Premier League? The answer will be a big flat no. Our limitation is to try and get into Europe every year. The Premier League is not what we're looking to do.

31:00So you need to understand what the aims of the football club are. It's European football and build a stadium for the next five years. That's all it is. There is no intention of fighting to win a Premier League or spending the money to win a Premier League. so even if you sack Amrim and you bring Javi in or Tuchel in or Nagelsmann or whoever your hipster manager is now they will walk in and find the same problems I need this this this and this and they'll go we'll give you this but you've got to work with that and then in a year's time people will go this isn't what I expected get him out and we'll be back here again there is no manager in world football that's good enough to take this job that doesn't need at least half a billion within 18 months of walking in.

31:48And we won't have that. So even if Xabi comes in, he'll still have to work with Deleuze. He'll still have to work with Luke Shaw. He'll still have to work with Agate. He's still going to have to work with players that we need to move on. It ain't going to change. And that's why we'll keep failing because those types of players don't play for Arsenal. Those types of players don't get in a Man City side. New manager, same problem. Exactly. But it surprises me that we think that a new manager will change things because it is true Amrind may well not be the guy for this job he may be massively out of his depth and he may have been massively out of his depth at Man City even with money you know I saw a great comment a couple of weeks ago where somebody said Manchester City were looking at Amrind even with the open checkbook he would fail he's just not a Premier League manager I thought there's a lot of if buts and maybes in that however you know maybe he's not the guy, maybe he is the guy, but he certainly hasn't had the backing he needs at this football club.

32:50Sarvesh says tie up with clothes brand to print free United laser out shirts. Brand takes the profit, but you promote the messages so you're not accused of profiteering, says Sarvesh. Ryan Jazzy, Jazzy, too Jazzy, says a prosperous new year to you all at the United stand, love from South Africa and to you, Ryan, as well. If If Kunia had most assists, you'd be glazing. It's Bruno, so you don't care, says Pizza. It's got absolutely nothing to do with anything what you're talking about. And I will, in 2026, expose people who try to be stupid. We're talking about Manchester United Football Club and why it's in terminal decline.

33:29And we're talking about the owners. You're trying to start a Bruno Player FC wank fest. And we're not interested in it, mate. I'm not interested in Player FC. I'm not interested in your little, you know, sad arguments about player FC. We're not even talking about that. We're talking about something far bigger. And if you'd actually listened to the show, we're talking about Bruno Fernandes leaving in the summer, which I'm pretty sure he will. That's the end of the conversation. But what I did say is we can't let him go in January. He's one of the players that could help us get European football.

34:04So I don't even know what you're talking about. Why are you talking about him and Kunja? what's going on in your head weird have you seen Ineos board may force Sir Jim to step back from running Man United to sort Ineos' financial crisis clubs a joke and it breaks my heart says Brian you know somebody said yesterday why do you blame Ineos for saving the Glazers it's the Glazers who are responsible I mean how do you deal with a comment like that because Ineos literally saved the Glazers. They needed investment to stay at the club and the Ineos did it. And people say, well, there was an American investment fund that were going to do it.

34:46That would never have worked. It had to be local lad, British billionaire who supports Man United. It was the only way they were going to survive. Sale in January, when we turned down 100 million this summer, would be your jokes as Fraser. Pizza's back again. Glazers 72 % majority plus Ineos minority equals 100%. Do you understand this, Mark? Mate, you're an idiot. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry in 2026 I'm having to go down this road again. But you are an idiot. You're wasting everybody's time. If you're going to come in here and try it on, you better come armed with facts because the Glazers do not own 72 % and Sir Jim Radcliffe owns 28%.

35:29The Glazers don't own 72%, mate. You know, this is the United stand. If you're going to come and talk about Man United, make sure you've done your bloody own work because we are not 100 % owned by the Glazers and Sir Jim. There are shareholders that own about 28 % themselves, 22%. The Glazers own about 50%, 51%. Then it's Sir Jim with 28 and then it's shareholders. Sorry about pizza wasting everyone's time, but these people need to be put in their place. Goldfridge says Ineos are not sure on Amrim. Their ego just won't allow them to sack another manager after Ten Hag. Ashworth and sacking half the workforce.

36:04Absolutely spot on. And Grunt says, what do the club mean by backing him? It isn't shown through their transfer activity to allow him to achieve his vision. Just words from Ineos, says Grunt. Bruno Rocha says, let's be honest. Look at these players' attitudes. No manager will succeed until they clean the squad. Amrum is a great young manager. He took sporting from the slumps. He needs players and time. And Dazzo says, only way I sell Bruno now is if Elliot Anderson comes in in January. I don't think we need to worry about that happening in January, if I'm being honest. 10 ,000 watching already.

36:39You're an absolute bunch of legends this morning. Thank you so much. Big January ahead. Make sure you subscribe to the channel and get involved. I want to talk about Maynou and Mateta next. thank you everybody who's tuning in there was something I was going to say there yeah you know when you talk about players and attitude I think we've spent a lot of time over the last 24 hours talking about the owners and Amerim and one set of people who've been pretty much left alone are the players you know what I look at the game against Wolves and I was getting my hair cut and the guy who was cutting my hair was basically taking the piss laughing about Wolves.

37:20And we were talking about attitude and passion. And he's not a Man United fan, but he was saying, you know what? There's just no passion in that team. You associate Man United with drive, determination, sweating blood. There's not many people doing that in the United shirt. And you know, when you look at the senior players in that team on Monday night, Casemiro, who I've listened to people all season tell me is back, he's lean, he's doing really well. It's funny how since the November international break, Casemiro has been shit. Have you noticed how Casemiro was decent from like August till the November international break?

37:58But now there's no international break coming up and he's established in the Brazil team. He's gone crap. I don't see the Casemiro glazing anymore for the last few weeks. He's been absolutely bang average for weeks and was terrible against Wolves. Deleuze on the senior leadership team. He's crap. And then you've got Luke Shaw, who, in fairness, is on some miracle staying fit plan. But as a leader of that team, couldn't inspire a packet of crisps. So, you know, it's a very fair assessment that there's very little leadership in that team. I think Martinez tries to bring it, but he's coming back from two years out being injured, you know, and he's a centre-back.

38:44But there's very little in that team. And, you know, Bruno's a very frustrating captain, but at least when Bruno's on the pitch, you do get that moment. I wouldn't even say he's an inspiring leader, but you do get those moments. But yeah, there's a distinct lack of... There's too many passengers in that team, you know? There's too many passengers. We're carrying too much Deadwood as per usual. We've been carrying too much Deadwood at that club for 10 years. I remember when Van Holl was in charge and we went into a summer transfer window and it was like, we've got to get rid of the Deadwood. That's when it started.

39:24And it's still there now. Rog Fed, thank you very much for your super chat. Only way... I've done that one from Dazzo. Let me talk about Maynou. So look, a little bit, a little bit overnight about Maynou. To be fair, it's coming in from the crap journalist from The Sun saying that Maynou still sees a future at Manchester United. what we know about the main new situation is that he is injured and there is an opportunity to play for manchester united um now conspiracy theorists have been talking for the last week or so is he really injured is he just waiting to move in january but united won't let him go anyway because they won't let anybody go until people start coming back like bruno and the afcon lads so I think the Manu injury the longer this goes on especially if he's back today we've got the press conference with Amri in the half one if Manu's back for Leeds there's hope and I think Manu wants to play for Manchester United so I don't know what's going to happen with Manu I don't know what's going to happen in this transfer window and that in itself is another example of how bad the ownership is that this is a transfer window.

40:46This is something you should have been working towards for three months. And now it's here. It's as chaotic as it was three months ago. There is no plan. You know, what's happening with Xerxi? What's happening with Maynou? Are we bringing any players in? And United just sort of dithering around going, do, do, do, do, do. Let's wait till everyone comes back from the AFCON and let's wait till Bruno comes back. If Maynou can be fit, he's got an opportunity. I mean, the problem with Maynou is, if he's fit and we don't know whether he is fit can he play 90 minutes against leeds probably not probably not because he's he's been out for two weeks um when when when did put the t-shirt on can anyone remember when when when did mainu put the t-shirt on was it it was before the villa game it was bournemouth so we played bournemouth on Monday night I'd just got back from Centre Parks so that was the middle of December so he's been injured for easily two weeks with a calf strain if it's a genuine injury which it looks like it is so you know that's a long enough injury that you're not going to just be able to come back and play 90 minutes so it's going to be about three weeks by the time even if he's back for Leeds it's nearly three weeks isn't it so even if he can play against Leeds he's not going to play 90 minutes then it's very unlikely he's going to be allowed to play against Burnley because it's only three days later then it's Brighton in the cup where he might be able to play 90 minutes and then Bruno will be back for the Manchester derby so he's probably got a game and a half if he's back for the Leeds game before he's going to be out the team again So I think with Maynou, it's like I'm sure he desperately wants to play and I'm sure he desperately wants to stay.

42:39But the worst thing, I'll give Maynou a bit of advice, right? The worst thing you can do is think in February you're in this team. Because there's a lot of games at the moment and there's a lot of people missing at the moment. But once we hit February, we'll be back to playing one game a week. We might be out the FA Cup, so definitely one game a week. Bruno will be fit. Casemiro will be fit. Agate will be fit. We're playing one game a week. We'll need to win every week. And you'll be lucky if you're getting 20 minutes off the bench. But the window will be closed and you'll be wasting a whole season.

43:15So if I was Maynou, I'd be very wary that they're only using me because there's nobody else. And as soon as everybody's back, I'll be back where I was a month ago, sat on the bench, not playing week in, week out. That's the reality for Maynou because there's no way that Ruben Amrim rates Maynou enough to drop him, enough to drop Casemiro. Well, he can't play Bruno and Casemiro. He can't play Bruno and Maynou. He won't do it. He won't play Bruno and Maynou because it's not got enough defensive cover and he's not going to drop Bruno for Maynou. So the cold, harsh reality is Maynou needs to be pushing for the move this month because if he doesn't get it, he's going to be sat on the bench till the summer.

43:54And then the next time he starts a game will be in August.

44:00So whether Mainu is going to go or stay, I think he's got to be pushing to go if he wants to play football. I don't see anything massively changing in that arena. But hopefully he's back because I'd love to see him playing against Leeds in a game where we're so short. And I think he could make a massive difference. I'd love to see Maynou playing next to Casemiro on Sunday rather than seeing Casemiro and Agate, which were just so lacklustre against Wolves. At least Maynou gives us a bit of creativity. But Platonic says Maynou's staying and playing. I mean, I'll have a pint of what you're having, even though it's 10 o 'clock in the morning, mate, because you've clearly not been watching this club for the last year.

44:48Amrim doesn't rate Maynou, so I don't think he'll use him. But it's encouraging and it's positive news that he wants to stay. I don't want Maynou leaving this football club. I mean, worst case scenario, he doesn't get picked. He doesn't play. And he leaves in the summer.

45:12But if he doesn't play and Amrim leaves in the summer, he could be back wearing a Man United shirt at the start of next season. So I think we've got to protect the asset. And also,

45:28protecting the... I mean, look, some people in the chat are being a bit, in my opinion, over the top. I just want to protect the asset. If Manu's going to play for Man United next season, whether it's under Amram or a new manager, what's the best thing that can happen to him in January? Answer me that question. So if you want Manu in a Man United shirt next season, because it's not going to be this season anyway, is it? He's not going to displace Bruno. So if you want to see Manu starting for Man United next season, what's the best thing that can happen in January? Him going on loan and doing really well.

46:04That's the best case scenario. So I want to see Manu playing for Man United next season. I want to see him in Amidfield next season. That's a positive. he's still at Man United he's wearing a Man United shirt he's playing for Man United the only pathway to that is loaning him out because keeping him and not playing him will mean a whole year of his career gone at 20 years of age that is such an important year if he'd done his cruciate ligament and he was out for a year I'd be worried about him losing a year of development what's different than sitting on the bench and you're still losing a year of your development.

46:44So somebody, this is where, this is Jason Wilcox's job. This is literally Jason Wilcox's job. His job is not to babysit Ruben Amrim. He might need to sack him at some point. His job is to have the short-term and long-term best interests of the club at heart. If he can't see that Amrim doesn't want to pick Maynou, then he's an idiot. So he needs to protect and develop Maynou. And the way to do that is to get him on loan. get him on loan but he's probably got so jim saying we can't afford a replacement so just keep him which doesn't help anybody apart from the bank balance um could a movement against the glazers start again with intense as tech uh mate i've got absolutely no idea how you get the glazers out i don't know beyond everybody's singing from the same him sheet and does you know cancels games, doesn't go to games, merchandise, completing up a block.

47:47And how do you do that? Mark, you should start a GoFundMe campaign to buy the club, says Rog Fed. I'm sure that'd go down well. How do you feel about United signing Jesus, says George? I've never heard of us being linked to anyone like that. Look, the Mateta story is out there again. I think in relation to Arteta, Manchester United, sorry, Mateta, not Arteta. I feel like the Mateta story is a little bit about a new contract at Crystal Palace. That's just my take on it because it's very rare that Sky for years have breaking transfer stories. They just haven't for years. They're not very good at this.

48:35I mean, occasionally they are going to get something, but they're not very good at this. So for Sky to say that Man United want Mateta, his contract runs out in 2027. So he's still got a year left on his contract. So if he's not going to sign a new contract, Crystal Palace may want to cash in. But if you look at Gehi, they've let him run his contract down because he's so important to them. So there's no guarantee that Palace will do a cheap deal with a year left on their contracts. Quite the contrary. So it just feels to me like Mateta, who is what, 28? He's going to be 29 in the summer, which means by the time his contracts run up, he'll be 30.

49:13I don't think United are in for Mateta. I think Mateta and his agent are just trying to sort out an exit or a new contract. If we sign midfielders in the summer and Bruno stays, then Mano won't be a regular starter, says Sal. uh copy and 70 million for bellingham says masrawi yeah i'm sure that they'd be all over that i really am a couple of other brits to bring you as well uh where were they just having a quick look um um any incomings in january are likely to be dictated by outgoings united have no interest in loaning out unless there's a commitment to buy after the loan their squad is small as it is so there is no benefit in giving another team fresh blood for no fee this is coming in from the athletic by the way um i i completely disagree with this by the way um again it's just another example have of how badly we are run united see no point in loaning out unless there's a commitment to buy um there's no benefit in giving another team fresh blood for no fee i mean this is just so idiotic we've literally just spoken about it so we're not going to loan a player out unless there's an obligation to buy what about mainu who's 20 who isn't getting any game time if you loan him out and he gets game time then he develops and doesn't sit on his ass for five months we don't need to loan mainu with an obligation to buy we need to loan him to give him game time that he's not getting at united but everything's about money you see they're all about money they're like why should we loan Manu out if we're not going to get a fee for him at the end of it because he's an asset that if you loan him out he'll be more valuable to you in the summer I mean it just doesn't it doesn't surprise me how thick they are um also says United were not going to pay Semenu any more than the three outfield players they went for in the summer um had he signed it would have accelerated the summer plans uh yet those are not set in stone a new central midfielder Defender was on the target list.

51:19Now the club have heaven. They're not so sure. United will also see which formations are used and whether there's European football next season, which is the make or break aim for the campaign. Also goes on to say that Harry Maguire can sign a pre-contract agreement with another club now. United have not held substantive talks with him about next year because his situation is still in play and he's been injured. He's 32 and one of the best paid players at the club, but he's also still a huge figure in the dressing room. These are all considerations to be weighed up. I mean, it's amazing how contradictory the football club is, isn't it?

51:57You've got Harry Maguire on nearly 200 grand a week, who at 32 is getting injured three or four times a season now. But we're going, well, he's a big influence in the dressing room. Is that not the manager's job and the assistant coach's job and the captain's job? I mean, we're literally considering keeping an injury-prone player who's going to be 33 on 190 grand a week. And we're considering keeping someone like that. And you've got a 20-year-old in Mainu who's not getting any game time. And we won't let him get any game time. And you sort of like go, what a bunch of hypocrites. I just, I don't get.

52:34And also, we value leaders. They think Luke Shaw's a leader. They think Deleuze's a leader. They think Casemiro's a leader. Where was that leadership on Monday night? Like they're not, what we think is leadership isn't leadership. And the sooner we reset this football club, the better. I'm not so sure that we're ever going to hit that reset, to be honest. So would you let Maguire go? I like Maguire. I mean, I love the goal against Liverpool. I love the goal against Lyon, but they're not enough to keep him. I mean, I've got to say Maguire being injured, he got injured against Forrest. He's basically been injured for two months.

53:10At no point have I thought we missed Maguire. Honestly, I don't. I like him to have him about, but I don't see him as a starter. I don't miss him. I do like Maguire. I think he's come through a lot, but I don't miss him. And I don't really see that I need him next season. So, no, I would let him go. I would let Casemiro go. I'd happily let Luke Shaw go. I'd happily let DeLoe go. I'd probably let Mason Mount go as well now. I'm probably in the minority because he has played well, but I'm so tired of a player that is just not reliable. It's like going out with your mates and one of your mates is the life and soul of the party, but you never know whether he's turning up or not.

53:53And it's sort of like you get a little bit fed up of inviting them because, you know, you can't rely on them. So I do miss De Ligt. I do miss De Ligt. I do miss Bruno. I do miss Ahmad. I do miss Masraoui. I do miss Mbermo. I miss those five players. but I genuinely I think it's a good way of looking at a player if a player was out injured for a month do you miss them? so I would miss Le Mans I would miss Martinez I would miss Kunja I would miss Bruno and we are missing Bruno I wouldn't miss Deleuze I wouldn't miss Shaw and Mason Mount's sort of getting into that category now I think he's had five injuries this season already again they've just not been very long Liverpool Spurs Chelsea aren't planning to sack their manager so why should we sack Amorim in his first it's his first transfer and they didn't fully back him Rios I don't know whether you were pissed yesterday or hung over or just in a coma but Chelsea have removed their manager yesterday mate if we sign midfielders in the summer in Bruno Stad I've done that one from South okay thanks everyone for watching great show this morning great to see so many people tuning in we have got it's Friday today we've all got to figure out what day it is that's the breaking news It's Friday.

55:09It is Friday today. I thought it was Monday. It's Friday today, which means another weekend of football and a press conference with Ruben Amarin today, half past one. So the big thing I'm looking for from that is what is anybody back fit to play against the Leeds? The only ones I think could be back are De Ligt, Maguire and Maynou. Bruno won't be back and no one's back from the AFCON. Maynou's the one that's important. I mean I do think that it's the best of the three but we can play Heaven we can play Jorreau we can play Martinez and we can play Shaw so Neynou is the one I want back so fingers crossed we get that news at lunchtime take care everyone stay safe and keep warm I'll speak to you a bit thanks for watching Premier League predictions on that's football out at midday as well