


Manchester United transfer talk and match reaction. The “mystery January loan” for a midfielder may be off if Jadon/Amad? (Maynou) is now trusted by Michael Carrick; Romano says no loan for Maynou. Mark Goldbridge argues United still need a real midfielder/left winger, not “better than nothing” loans, and that Carrick’s pragmatic tactics are a short-term fix.
No named guests appear; the host references Fabrizio Romano and Ben Jacobs (journalists) and discusses comments from members in chat (e.g., “Colombo,” “Emily,” “Jimmy,” “Roy Keane” via Sky Sports).
Maynou won’t leave on loan; Carrick’s “renaissance” solves a midfield problem. United won’t kill the window in two weeks; any loan is likely for depth/injury cover. Carrick should not be given the job yet; evaluate after ~10 league games.
The Man City win via compact low block and pace on the break; Seb’s team losing 3-1 on a 4G pitch with a cone-related goal incident.
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Discussion on Manchester United's recent performance and reactions.
“other bits that are coming out this morning, but lots to get into.”
Exploration of the potential mystery loan deal and its implications.
“Tom McBride said, was that Elaine yesterday or Elaine the pain?”
Analysis of the need for additional players and the squad's current condition.
“But the club's problems are still massive.”
Discussion on Maynou's future at the club and his recent developments.
“There's no guarantee we're going to do it.”
Reactions to fan opinions on players and the club's direction.
“And you see, you know, you trip and twist your ankle.”
Debate surrounding player selections and criticisms from former players.
“You know, Carrick's giving them a bit of paper over the cracks.”
Discussion on differing opinions about players like Martinez and Maynou.
“Because, you know, we get people struggle with different people's opinions.”
Analyzing the need for a new midfield player and the team's current strategy.
“Some of you didn't want Tell from Bayern Munich.”
Debating the effectiveness of simplicity in football tactics compared to complex styles.
“If he picks loads and loads of young players and United don't get Europe, does that get him a job at Crystal Palace?”
Discussion on Carrick's potential as a long-term manager and the club's performance issues.
“because he played to the strength and he'd be very used to it because he did it with Ollie as well.”
The discussion centers on the implications of potential managerial changes at Manchester United and the importance of proper backing for the team.
“But if they want to do it, I ain't going to get stressed about it because why should I?”
An analysis of Michael Carrick's approach as an interim manager, focusing on pragmatism and understanding player strengths.
“And that's when I'll assess it, definitely.”
Discussing upcoming matches and potential challenges for Manchester United, emphasizing the need for tactical adjustments and player performance.
“You don't do it when you've got a four or five month interim job.”
Exploration of potential loan deals and the dynamics of the midfield under Ten Hag.
“but do you think we have any chance of a last-second subits of type loan?”
Analysis of Michael Carrick's approach as an interim manager and its implications.
“Bloody hell, it wasn't meant to be that long.”
Wrap-up of the discussion with reflections on the team's performance and future.
“We are not magically doing this every game.”

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0:44We'll also talk about the reaction to yesterday and a few other bits that are coming out this morning, but lots to get into. And, you know, I've just actually been interacting with Ben Jacobs about this because, you know, we can give you the latest on what might be happening in the next two weeks around this January mystery transfer deal for Britzio Romano with his update as well. And as I said, we've got quite a bit to get into. But look, I was at Seb's match this morning. A lot of the dads aren't Man United fans and a lot of them were saying, you know, that was entertaining yesterday, wasn't it?
1:16And I think that's always the best feedback from people that don't support Manchester United. So waking up this morning, I think we have to accept that there was, not only was it a good result yesterday, But I think we earned a lot of credit in the general football world, which I think is also a very, very big positive as well. Not quite a big positive with Seb's team in the cup. They lost 3-1. Look, you know, life's about picking yourself up from defeats. As United fans, we know that. But let me just say this. They were playing on a 4G pitch. The goalkeeper's penalty box was marked out by cones.
1:52We're 2-1 down with five minutes to go. We're peppering their goal. They hit a long ball. The ball is going to go out of play. Hits one of the cones, slows up, and their striker puts it in. I mean, man of the match to the fucking cone, as I said, on the sideline. Some people got it. Some people thought, what a moaner. But yeah. Anyway, but Man United won yesterday. Man United won yesterday. That's what it's all about. Tom McBride said, was that Elaine yesterday or Elaine the pain? Okay, it wasn't very good, was it? But look, let's get into it because a lot of people are going to want to know the news.
2:20So basically, this started off because Fabrizio Romano said there'll be no loan deal in January. And he was talking about Maynou. Maynou won't be leaving, which we'll talk about in a moment. So I got in contact with Ben Jacobs. Obviously, on Friday, he put it out there that Man United were in talks for a mystery midfielder. He knows who it is. I still don't know who it is. But, you know, obviously, we have Ben Jacobs on the show quite regularly. and I said to him, is this Maynou thing anything to do with that? And he said, no, look, the Maynou thing is Maynou's not going to leave on loan in January.
2:52With regard to the mystery loan deal, it might be with the renaissance of Maynou, Man United decide that Bruno can play in the midfield. You've got Casemiro, Maynou, Agate. They don't need to spend anything on another player in January. However, they might look at it and see it as an opportunity to move Agate on if Carrick doesn't like him. so you know it could still happen in the next 14 days but obviously you'd be you know it'd be wrong not to say that Maynew's renaissance under Carrick solves a problem that wasn't being solved before so look I'm sure we'll find out who this person is at some point I you know I'm as intrigued as you are but in some ways we might be better off not knowing comparable to who it could be and they may well not be the savior that some people think they're going to be I mean God when the name comes out, I think it will cause a meltdown.
3:42But we need, look, let's be real. I spoke about this last night. Fantastic performance from Manchester United yesterday. And whatever the connotations of that are, maybe we go to Arsenal and we build on it. Maybe we lose to Arsenal, we lose to Fulham and we're back where we are. Maybe Michael Carrick gets the job full time and we're back here in two years saying, why did we do that? Maybe Michael Carrick gets the job full time and becomes the next Sir Alex. Or maybe he doesn't get the job and we bring Ancelotti in. There are so many if, of buts and maybes coming up. But I think one of the consistencies is that we do need to be bringing players in.
4:13And I would much rather be in Man City's position today than ours. Well, why wouldn't I? You know, we're winning. If I'm a Man City fan, you're winning leagues, you're ambitious, you've just bought one of the best centre-backs in Europe, you've bought one of the best wingers in Europe, you've got the best striker in the world, and they're in a title race. So look, that's the truth. The result yesterday is great. We've all got a smile on her face. But the club's problems are still massive. And maybe it does paper the cracks for some people, but I don't think it does. We can praise Carrick, we can play as the players and we can be happy.
4:52But the bottom line is we shouldn't be guessing who a mystery loan deal is in the January transfer window. we should be chucking some money at a midfielder or a left winger to build now. Because one thing Man City have done in the last two January windows is buy players for the now to prepare for the future. So look, Maynou we'll talk about, but Maynou coming into the first team can't be a reason not to strengthen that midfield. One of you said it last night, we're one injury away in the midfield from a major problem in there. And I'm still not convinced because we parked the bus against Man City and countered.
5:30Actually, I want to rephrase that because we played clever against Man City yesterday and, you know, basically sucked them into our half and then pounced on the break. And it was very effective. You can't do that every week. We're going to have to be more expansive. And then how how much space will be in our midfield? Have we got the right players for it? So we definitely should be bringing somebody in in this market. But look, as Ben Jacobs said himself on Friday, Man United are in talks in the last 24 hours for a mystery midfielder. Let's see if it happens. It doesn't mean it happens. And as he said to me on Friday, there's an interesting story to be told about this in the future.
6:09But for now, we can't tell it. So we'll wait and see. There's no guarantee we're going to do it. If they, is it Glazenomics to go, we've beaten Man City, Manu played really well, put the checkbook away, Jason, we're not even going to do a loan deal. And I think that pressure needs to be there. Of course it does. I mean, look, I don't know who the loan deal is. But if the loan deal is a festering, fresh turd out of a bloody donkey's arse, it's still better than nothing, isn't it? So look, we'll have to wait and see. Do I think we'll do the loan deal? I don't know because I don't know who it is.
6:44But even whoever it is, I'm sort of like going, we'll do it because it's about... It's like, look, the way for me is maybe it's not very entertaining. Maybe it's not very inspiring, right? But, you know, if you're going on holiday and you've got a missus and... I probably shouldn't tell this one. You go on holiday, you've got a missus, you go on holiday with the mates and you say, I'm absolutely not going to do anything on holiday like that. You know, I'm happily in a relationship. We're thinking about getting married. We're going really, really well. Forget it. I'm not buying any Johnnies from Boots because there's just no way I'm going to do anything.
7:23And then three days into the holiday, you know, you're out there birdwatching. I mean, like with binoculars, you know, you're not in a club. It's not like that. It's not like a few drinks and you've seen someone. You're out there doing something that's, you know, deep and meaningful. you know, maybe on a nice mountain walk. And you see, you know, you trip and twist your ankle. And then this beautiful woman comes along and she's a doctor and she helps with your ankle. And she says, do you want to go and have a glass of wine? And you have a little bit of a chat and you get on really, really well.
7:51And then she says, you know what? If you want to be with me, let's go in the bedroom on day three. Day one might put you off. And then you go, I haven't got any
8:02Johnny's, you're not prepared. A better one would have been not having a spare wheel in your boot when you break down. What I'm trying to say is, no matter how good this midfielder is, it's better to have what we need than to go we don't need it. Because Maynou, Casemiro, Agate is three people for two positions. And if one of them gets injured, you haven't really got a sub. Whereas if you've got this loan deal, and let's pretend it is, I don't know, Zakaria or Loftus-Cheek, at least you can use them. I'm not saying they're going to start, but you hit the middle of March and Manu's out for two months, Loftus-Cheek might be quite useful now.
8:50Now, I don't want Loftus-Cheek and we can rip the piss out of the football club for going for players like that. But who do you care about more? Man United being in Europe or the Glazers? You know, Man United winning games or Sir Jim Radcliffe? And that's what I'm saying. I don't know who this loan deal is, but if United are debating not doing it, they're bloody idiots because at some point you might need something that's better than nothing, you know? So let's wait and see what it is. It's not great. It's not great. But no, it's not as true. Michael, that's not how I met my wife. There's a bit of poetic life.
9:27It's not dissimilar. I mean, there was nothing like that in the first three days. Trust me. But yeah, I wasn't looking for love, but it found me. I'm sure there's a song like that, isn't there? You never know when you're going to get shot by that Cupid arrow. You think you're in a happy relationship and then you're not. But look, we'll have to wait and see. But look, this has all been sparked by what Fabrizio Romano has said in relation to, what's his name? Maynou. So look, if you're just tuning in, the mystery loan deal, which may or may not happen, could be off if United decide the renaissance of Maynou is sufficient to get them through to the end of the season with Maynou, Agate and Casemiro and Bruno, who can play those midfield positions.
10:15I think that's a mistake. I think most of you think it's a mistake. But as Ben Jacob said to me, you know, maybe they'll move their attention to Agate now because there's been talk about Agate going to Turkey. So, I mean, look, let's see. United will not kill the... You can take this to the bank. Man United will not kill this transfer window dead with two weeks of it left. They won't do it because it's this. It's clicks. It's social media. It's deflection. You know, Carrick's giving them a bit of paper over the cracks. If they talk about transfers, that papers the cracks a little bit more. They like the interaction.
10:51So even if they're not going to do anything, they'll still put it out there that they might just to keep you excited. And I still believe that they have to do something. In relation to Maynou, this is what Fabrizio Romano has said. Michael Carrick really, really trusts Maynou. So forget about any loan deals happening this January. The board were not convinced to sanction a green light on Maynou's departure. Even in December, Maynou will be an important player for the club's future. Well, it's a huge turnaround for Maynou. And I think we've put it in the title about his contract situation. He's out of contract in the next 12 months.
11:30Now, there is an option for another year, which I'm sure Man United would hit. And he is on very, very low wages. But the opportunity that is there for Maynou now is really, really important. And obviously he's outlasted Amrim and that puts him in an even stronger position to start playing for Man United week in, week out. I think this is an open goal for anybody that comes in. If I was the manager of Man United, then I'd be playing three in the midfield and I would be using Manu in there as well. And I thought he played well yesterday. So he's got a great opportunity. And sometimes patience pays off for people, doesn't it?
12:06So look, I was certainly one of those people that wanted to see Maynou playing more games of football. And it's incredible to me that, you know, it's only now that we might start to see a run of games for him. I wasn't that bothered about people saying it was just average yesterday or people saying it was world class. To me, it doesn't really matter because he needs a run of games. Every player needs a run of games and he is still very young himself. So Maynou playing for the next few games week in, week out is really important. Obviously, we need him to stay fit. I mean, I couldn't actually give a shit about England.
12:37I've got to be honest, if he gets in the England squad, it's good for him. But from a Man United point of view, I'd actually think finish the season well, have a good pre-season and come back strong next season as well. But look, if he gets in the England squad, you know, I saw John Terry saying, take Harry Maguire to the England squad. I'm sure Luke Shaw is desperate to go. I mean, I don't think Thomas Tuchel would be well advised to take Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire and Maynou to the World Cup. We do want to try and win it, but maybe one or two of them will make it. And that's up to them. You know, if they play well for us, then they might go for England.
13:09But I think the main thing with Manu is to just keep him playing in the team. And look, I think Man United would have sold him. I think if a decent offer had come in and they kept Amrim, let's not. There's people out there that, in my opinion, are morons in the sense that I've seen some of it last night where they're trying to blame it all on Amrim and play Carrick against Amrim. But there's a dictator behind all this and it's Ineos and it's Wilcox and Barada and they're the real issues at Man United. But people blame Amrim for Rashford when the board wanted Rashford out. And people might blame Amrim for Maynou, but the board would have sold him.
13:50So because it's money, hopefully now we'll sort the contract situation out. We'll play week in, week out, and we'll start to build out somebody that we actually should be using. And it's funny, isn't it? Because, you know, we get people struggle with different people's opinions. And I think that, you know, I call it the TikTok generation because we're all part of it. You go from absolute depression and I'm fed up to absolute over the top toxic positivity at times. for example like I couldn't believe yesterday well I can believe the amount of people talking about what Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes said about Martinez and the whole time I was thinking are we not going to talk about what they said about Manu then so they're the problem because they they've criticized Martinez but they've also been consistently saying pick Cobby for weeks and months and saying it's ridiculous that he's not playing it's what Man United should all be about so I doubt I doubt very much if you've got it in for Butt and Scholes for what they said about Martinez, I very much doubt you're a Martinez-loving, Maynou-think-he-shit fan.
14:51So you're a hypocrite because they've been talking about Maynou and how he should be playing in that midfield for months. But because they've said something about Martinez, you don't like them. But that's life. It's opinion. You don't like one of their opinions doesn't mean you're going to really struggle. You're going to really struggle in life if you write somebody off because they have an opinion you don't like, because you're going to find very quickly that they have opinions you do like. And a lot of us were saying that Manu needs a run of games. And I think that's what I want to see over the next few weeks is, you know, Manu getting stronger and stronger.
15:23And I think he will be motivated by the opportunity anyway, but I think he will be motivated by maybe pushing himself into the England setup, which is massively beneficial for us. But I don't see him leaving Man United now. And I think we should start negotiations on the contract. I'm pretty sure or Manu's going to want to stay at Man United. Michael Carrick's going to be very, very encouraging of him as a midfielder. There's a lot he can learn from him as well. And I think, you know, when I look at the performance yesterday, there was a lot of Michael Carrick to it. Some of you might be too young to remember what Michael Carrick was as a player, but some of the passing we were doing yesterday reminded me of United with Carrick.
16:08You know, moving it quickly through a press, one-touch passing at times, quick three or four pass movements to get into space. Obviously, it's quite, it's easier to do that against a team that presses and plays a high line with a bad defence. But there will be opportunities against teams that play a low block to play like that as well. And I think that's going to be the evolution that's going to be really interesting. So, look, I think it's an exciting time for Maynou. And hopefully that's going to be an exciting time for Manchester United. I certainly don't think there's many of us that were thinking that we do need to get rid of Maynou.
16:39But as I said at the start, I still do think that whoever this mystery midfield loan player is, and I'll be at the front of the queue to criticise Wilcox and Barada and Sir Jim for pitifully using a January transfer window to bring in a loan deal. But let me be very clear. I said this last January as well. Some of you didn't want Tell from Bayern Munich. And I said, he might not be ideal, but I'd take it over nothing. And a load of people went, wow, he's not done very well at Spurs. and I was like, hold on a minute. There is definitely a case to say that somebody is better than nothing. If they come on for half an hour and do okay, somebody gets a rest.
17:17How many injuries did we have in the latter half of last season because we didn't have any attackers? Ahmad got injured straight away. We got rid of Rashford and Anthony. I do genuinely believe that sometimes just somebody who sits on the bench gives you 20 minutes to take somebody off and give them a rest so they don't get injured. So I do think that whoever it is, it's got to be better than nothing. We can still laugh at it. We can still ridicule it. I mean, we should be spending money on somebody decent, but I still think it's better than nothing, you know? Kiel Robinson says, now the first team in the academy are playing similar football.
17:49Is there any promising kids in the centre midfield role that may step ups as Kiel? Look, I do think that obviously Lacey can be involved now. And I do think that he will get some game time because he can play off the right. In relation to the midfield, we've already got two players that are obviously going to get used. Fletcher was on the bench again yesterday. Do I think anybody else is going to break through? I don't really think Michael Carrick can use this next five months as a conveyor belt to play young players. He needs the results to have any chance of getting the job and secondary to that, getting a job beyond this.
18:28I think if you're Michael Carrick this morning and you took it into your roast beef and your Yorkshire puddings, you're probably going, I'll have more gravy. But you're also going, you know what? I want to win every game. Not just because I'd like the Man United job, but the more games I win, there's a Crystal Palace job available in the summer. There might be a Fulham job available in the summer. There might be an Everton. You just don't know what jobs there's going to be. And if Michael Carrick has a good five months for Man United, but it's not good enough to get the Man United job, there might be a job for him elsewhere.
19:00So Carrick needs to win games. If he picks loads and loads of young players and United don't get Europe, does that get him a job at Crystal Palace? Probably not. So I think there will be some usage of younger players and I think Lacey and Fletcher will be used. But I don't think he's going to start using it as a conveyor belt to everybody else. But good question. Emily Derry's in the chat. She normally has a good one. She says, Carrick was so underrated when he was playing. He's one of the most intelligent passes of the ball. Never really been replaced. Stiller is probably the closest to our summer targets.
19:34Look, if Favell has got anything about him, he'll be all over Stiller. I love Stiller. I mean, Stuttgart are the Aston Villa of the Bundesliga this year. And he has been absolutely sensational for them. He's a leader. He's a natural Bruno replacement. You probably don't bring him in if Bruno stays, but I don't know that we can let Bruno go in the summer now. If he's going to play as a number 10, I just love Bruno Fernandes as a number 10. And I hated him as a midfielder and I'd have sold him. But as a number 10, I just think he's just too important. The Prince of... Prince Rodriguez says, I love how Roy Keane talked yesterday at Sky Sports.
20:10I'll come back to that. Manchester is and always will be red, says Tarek. Don't ever sing again, Dad. You're embarrassing, says Seb Goldbridge. Don't see why a bit part player would want to come anyway, says Rob McCormack. Bruno G may extend at Newcastle why not turn his head says Red Devil Girl I'd love Bruno Gameres Hi Mark I was top 0.7 % for United Stand on my wraps and I'm travelling 37 hours from Australia to Manchester in March for the United Villa game can I be on the United Stand for absolutely anything that week I'm sure we can sort something out BZDead we'll meet you down there and do a little clip or something like that sounds great especially if you look you've got to watch United Stand as much as you can if you want to be in the top 1 % at the end of the year so well done BZD I know there's a lot of people saying they're going to being the top 1%.
20:51There's a lot of competition, but well done to you last year. Does yesterday prove simplicity is the key to progress rather than the convoluted styles and formations these European managers employ? Like it or not, I think most players just respond to basics, says Colombo. I think this is a great point. I want to come back to this. Can't stop watching the game and the Rondo on Cherky, says Carlo. Yeah, we basted the Cherky yesterday again, didn't we? I mean, I think he's, I think he's going to be, you know, very, very soon. Although he lives in Manchester, I think he's going to have to avoid within a mile radius of Old Trafford because he gets absolutely roasted, doesn't he, every time he goes anywhere near it.
21:30Tariq, welcome to Members Club. We are English Celtic. Only way to change this is to sack the board. Protest like Celtics fans. Tariq is our Martin O 'Neill, a.k.a. the board's stooge and shields as Perth Luxury. Hi, Mark from Australia. I woke up at 1 a.m. for the game. 100 % worth it, says Tariq. And Wynn and the board think they've got away with it, says Andy Hale. Thank you very much. Okay, a couple of things I wanted to go back to. One person was talking about Roy Keane. Columbo, with a really good point, says, do a piece on Steve Holland, Mark. Mate, I don't rate Steve Holland. I don't care.
22:04I'm allowed an opinion. I don't rate him. He's been Southgate's sidekick for 10 years. People are delving back, talking about what he did with Ancelotti, what he did with Conte and all this. I don't rate him after one game, right? I rate Carrick. I don't rate Steve Holland, right? Colombo is absolutely spot on. Simplicity is the key to progress at Man United. Like it or not, most players at Man United are basic. They are. They're low IQ players. We've seen it. They can't play a 3-4-3. They can't break a low block. They're really basic players. If you tell them to sit deep, stay compact, be aggressive and counter quickly with pace.
22:46Is that the same as the way someone like Enrique plays with PSG or Pep plays with Man City? Absolutely not. Could they play like that? No. So you're right. It was good yesterday and it was good under Oli and it was good under Ten Hag at times and it was good under Mourinho, although a lot of these players wouldn't have played there. But if you go back to the Oli years, they're just very basic players. Play a back four, compact, counter with pace. And that's, you know, that's Maguire's bread and butter. In a way, it's Martinez's bread and butter, although he can play in a more progressive team.
23:24It's certainly Luke Shaw's bread and butter at this day. Deleu needs simple instructions. That's the back four sorted. Casemiro hasn't got the legs. Nice, easy, compact team helps him. Manu's just started to get going again. Bruno loves having space to probe in. And then three quick players going forward. So it is very simplistic. It's certainly the way we, the instructions yesterday would have been a lot easier than what Amrum's been trying to get in for the last 12 months. So I think this is a fantastic point from Colombo and it's not a negative point from him. You know, I don't want people saying, oh, you know, simplicity, just enjoy the win and, you know, players are basic.
24:02It's a positive. We beat Man City yesterday because we played to the player's strengths, and the player's strengths is a low block, compact, and hit with pace.
24:33and supplies in store and on menards.com. Plus, check out the weekly flyer for more great deals happening now. Save big money at Menards. And Carrick deserves credit because he played to the strength and he'd be very used to it because he did it with Ollie as well. The question will be, what's the longevity with that? And is that what we want as a football club? Because we won't play teams that come to Old Trafford and attackers like Man City every week. But it worked really, really well yesterday. So as for your piece on Steve Holland, I need to see a little bit more because I saw the team yesterday and I said we'd play exactly like we did.
25:16And what's really interesting to me is, and somebody picked it up in the comments last night, when I was doing the match reaction yesterday and I was going through the player ratings, I spoke about how it really suited Martinez as well because it's so compact, it allows him to go and be aggressive. And he said it himself in the interview after the game. And I hadn't heard that. So it just shows you that it was quite simplistic the way we approached yesterday. But it was very effective. And it suits our players who I think are quite basic. I don't think they're intelligent enough to play pet ball or Enrique ball.
25:47So it would be very interesting to see how Carrick evolves this team and Steve Holland and Jonathan Woodgate when we play the low block. I think that's the one we're waiting for because we can basically blueprint what we did yesterday against Arsenal because they're going to have a lot of the ball. They're at home. They're going to play high up the pitch and we're going to basically do the same. And I wouldn't change the team for Arsenal. I mean, I know it's not preview time, but I wouldn't. But look, I don't know how people feel this morning, but I actually feel happier this morning than I did yesterday.
26:18And I felt very happy yesterday. I think the elation of yesterday and the excitement of yesterday is always going to happen after the game. But once you've had a sleep and you've got time to reflect, sometimes that can dilute and you can get a bit realistic. I mean, a lot of what Roy Keane said yesterday was very interesting about, you know, Carrick got sacked by Middlesbrough. Johnny Evans isn't even a coach. You know, there's a long way to go. Calm down. You know, there's a lot of problems at the club. I think all those things can be true. but also is it not right to say well I want Wilcox sacked I want Sir Jim out I want the Glazers gone I passionately want all those things we we are a broken club and we won't get any better with them in charge there is no way back like we will still be able to beat Man City maybe Arsenal maybe Liverpool this season under Carrick but there is no way back because you can't just win battles, you've got to win wars.
27:14And we're not equipped to win wars because we haven't got the armory to do it and the ammunition to do it. And we haven't got the investment to do it. So we're not going to be back. If anybody's like waking up this morning thinking, yeah, you know, I really believe we can be back. You can't say on one hand, there's no manager in the world that could turn this ship around and then go, interim Carrick's going to do it. He's not a bloody miracle worker. So we won't be back in any way, shape or form to the levels we want to be under this ownership. However, However, I'm quite relaxed. I don't think Michael Carrick should be given the job in the summer regardless.
27:49But if they give him the job, I actually won't sit there and go, Carrick out, he's fucking useless. I like Carrick. But if they give him the job, I'm pretty sure I'll be sat here in a year or two going, I told you so. But if they want to do it, I ain't going to get stressed about it because why should I? I don't, I'm not involved in the conversation and they'll just be reinforcing what many of us think. They're incompetent and they're cheap and they'll fall for the, you know, Ollie's at the wheel. He's won eight out of 12. Let's give him the job. And if they want to do that and we're in Europe, all I want to be is in Europe.
28:25If it all comes crashing down next season again, well, I think that's going to happen regardless because whoever the manager is going to be is going to get, needs to be backed in the summer. So if it's Carrick next season or it's Ancelotti next season, unless they're going to give them the amount of money that they need. I can't be a hypocrite. I don't really care. I actually don't care if they give it. I don't think they should give it to Carrick. I'm very firm on that. But I don't care if they do because I think it will come crashing down anyway. You know, you can't be a hypocrite and say, I don't think there's a manager in world football that's going to turn this ship around and go, well, they've given it to Carrick over Ancelotti.
29:01I'm fuming. I'd be like, well, I don't think Ancelotti's turning it around either. I I don't think Southgate's turning it around. I don't think Conte's turning it around. So if you give it to Carrick, I don't think he's turning it around either. I don't think it really matters. If you're going to spend half a billion in the summer, for the love of God, bring Ancelotti in. But if you're going to spend half a billion on Carrick, I think that's up to them. So I enjoyed the game yesterday. I'm quite relaxed about the team and the manager situation. I want European football. As I said last night, I think we can get it.
29:35I'm not going to stress about the club giving him the job or not giving him the job because they're idiots and you can't argue with idiots. So let them do what they're going to do. The bigger thing is, is there any incentive? Is there anybody out there? Regardless of protests, I think everybody wants change at Man United. It's not breaking news, but there's got to be an alternative and at the moment i don't think there's an alternative so what we need really is is the story from october to be true or another story to be true that there's actually somebody out there going i want man united because the protests and everything like that are fantastic but they won't do anything if there's nobody else as well so look at the moment we've got very very very little to be optimistic about in the long term Michael Carrick gave us something in the short term yesterday and I'm very relaxed I'm very relaxed I don't as I said last night I think nobody should be saying give Carrick the job until April and in April we'll have a lot better understanding of the situation I mean let's have a quick look but he'd be massively helped by some activity in January.
30:58But I think that's the problem as well, isn't it? You know, I was talking to a journalist today and they were like, we were talking about this January transfer and we were also talking about the summer transfer window. And then we got onto Carrick and the result yesterday. And basically the conversation was being told that you do realise that United, when they were interviewing Solskjaer and Carrick, they're basically playing them off each other as well because they're going, well, he wants this. Do you want this? And although it's pure speculation, it was like if one of them was going, I want the job, but you need to buy me a midfielder in January and the other one's going, I don't need anything, where do you think Man United go?
31:46And that's no detriment to whatever Carrick said or whatever Solskjaer said, But obviously, it's like negotiating your house deal, isn't it? You're probably going to go with the one who's going to give you the most money. And for Man United, they might have an interim at the moment who was so determined to get the job, may have just signed up for stuff that you or I wouldn't have signed up for in a position of strength. For example, in the summer, if they want Ancelotti, he's probably going to go, I'll take the job or Tuchel, I'll take the job. If you give me this, you're in a position of strength.
32:22But as an interim, when you're competing, you might have to go, I'll take the job for this wage, which is lower. And I don't need any signings in January. I don't know whether Carrick's even made a play for that. But this is our next few games. So we've got Arsenal away, Fulham at home, Spurs at home, West Ham away, Everton away, Palace at home. That's six. And that takes us to the end of February. Then you've got Newcastle away, Villa at home and Bournemouth away. That's nine games plus City. So I think by the next international break, you've got 10 Premier League games. perfect time to sit down and go where are we 10 games that's when I'll start looking at the Carrick situation 10 games and it's all about there's enough low blocks there as well isn't there when you think about it there is enough low blocks there you've got Bournemouth will play quite expansive at their place but you've got Villa who will come with a high line Newcastle at St.
33:33James' Park will be difficult. You've got Palace at home, low block. You've got Everton away, low block. You've got West Ham away, low block. You've got Tottenham, God knows. You've got Fulham, probably a low block if I'm being honest. So look, there's some good games in there. And if he can win, if he can win seven or eight out of those 10, he's going to put himself in a really good position. Yeah. And that's when I'll assess it, definitely. Sophie welcome to the members club thank you very much I just want to say 12 ,000 people watching on a Sunday lunchtime you're absolute bloody legends thanks for tuning in today we have got the eight o 'clock show tonight as well I'm just about to go and do a video on that's football actually about the 115 which is interesting but that's for that plain basic will only get us so far it might steady the ship and raise the floor in the interim but won't raise the roof the club needs a plan but look again look Columbus said it and I think it's really important that people understand when we say play basic and to the player's strengths, that's what an interim should do.
34:38That's literally what an interim should do. If I was Michael Carrick and I was coming into Man United or you were Michael Carrick and you were coming into Man United, would you come in and go, let's play Goldbridge ball, right? I want to play a 4-3-3, but I want every pass to go forward. I want us to play a high line. I want us to use the width. I want the fullbacks going back and forward. I want to get crosses in the box. I want to entertain. Would I do that for the next four or five months? No, not in a fucking million years am I going to play a high line. No way. No way. I've got five months on trial.
35:13I'm not going to ruin it on principle. I'm going to go, hold on a minute. Let's have a look at the last. The first thing I'm going to do and where I take my hat off to Michael Carrick is that I think every Manchester United manager that's come into this club has gone, There's the past. I'm in charge now. I have a huge ego. We're going to do it my way. I don't care whether you were shit in the past or good in the past. You were good in the past. You dropped. You were shit in the past. I like you. It's my way. Blah, blah, blah. I'm not listening to anything behind me. I think Michael Carrick has spent the last few days going, what happened under Amrim?
35:46What happened under Tenarg? What happened when I was here with Ollie? Who's in the dressing room? What are they good at? Who've we got coming up? Right. Man City, weak at the back. If they sit deep, we'll use Sesco and we'll pepper there and we'll get crosses in and we'll take advantage of their weak centre-backs. If they play high, we'll use pace on the break and we'll sit deep. That's intelligent. And the blueprint was there from Oli, you know, when Carrick was there. So I respect what Michael Carrick's done because he's basically come in and gone. the way we played yesterday wasn't the way he played with Middlesbrough either it wasn't very similar to how he played with Middlesbrough really but what he did is it was similar to how he played with Oli you play that back four, deep line, compact midfielders close, pace on the break play to people's strength I mean who in the team yesterday was out of position or not playing in a system they don't like?
36:45Bruno is a number 10 looking for the through ball Mbamo, Dorgou and Ahmad running into space. Luke Shaw as a left back, but stay back and help his defenders. Martinez next to Maguire on the edge of the box, not worried about pace over the top. Deleu with plenty of support around him. Casemiro with plenty of support around him. Manu just sitting in, doing the job, probing. Everybody in the team yesterday did a job they used to doing and we won the game. And I think that's exactly what you should do as an interim. And it pisses me off the amount of managers that come into this club. Tenarg, Amorim to a certain extent, Jose did it.
37:24It pisses me off the players that come in this club and ignore all the problems from the past as if they're not relevant because I'm here now and everyone gets a new chance. I think you've got to walk into the club and go, yeah, you've been shit for the last two years. You know, you don't work in that situation. And I think that's intelligent. So look, playing basic football or playing to the player's strength when you're an interim is a very intelligent thing to do. Building your world, you do that when you've got a two or three year contract. You don't do it when you've got a four or five month interim job.
37:55You've got to work with what you've got and get the best out of what you've got, which in a way is quite scary if you give them the job because what they do in the four or five months is not going to be what they do in the next two, three years. because what you're doing in your four or five months is basically try and get results in a in the simplistic way but if you get the job you then maybe try and do new things and that's the that's why so many interims fail because and it's not just a man united thing so many interims fail because they come in and they do things to get results that the players like because they play to the player's strength and then when they get the job what they did to get results isn't really sustainable.
38:39So they start doing things for the long term and the players go, and it doesn't work a lot of the time. So it's that balancing act. But I think that for us as fans, we need to see more of yesterday because I want European football. That's what I want. And there's nothing wrong with being pragmatic, says Jimmy. No, I think the job of an interim is to steady the ship, get results. I think it is. I think if you're Mikel Arteta, it's a five-year project and they've not won the Premier League, but they're building towards the Premier League, aren't they? They're building something gradually. We're not building something over the next five months.
39:20We're trying to achieve something, which is European football. Midri says, afternoon, Mark. I totally agree. We need a midfielder. Something is better than nothing. Exactly. Any news on Neves? Well, The mystery midfielder is not Nebes because it's not a Saudi-based player. What's your opinion if the dressing room stops using toilet papers and uses a jet spray? Because toilet paper leaves dingleberries and it's not good for hygiene, says Manchester's Blue. OK. Mark, your ball knowledge is fire. I'll be winning dollars on your knowledge, low-key. Respect, says Black Wolf. OK. I think he's talking about my predictions for United yesterday.
39:52Predictions today, I've got Wolves winning and Villa winning. Oh, I tell you what. NFL last night was amazing. Oh. My team got knocked out in overtime, but what a game. What a game. Hope you're well, Mark. United stand. Hope Seb's game went well. Lost 3-1, Daniel. It's a good game, but they lost. Sophie, welcome to the Members Club. Thank you very much. Thoughts on Carrick's tactics at Middlesbrough versus Highline? I haven't really watched Middlesbrough. I just read a lot of what a lot of people wrote about Middlesbrough. And, you know, I think it was sometimes a back five, a back three, this, that and the other.
40:26but he doesn't need to replicate. I said this on the preview, like you can't look at how Carrick played at Middlesbrough and say he's going to play like that at Man United. His coaching CV is so small and also he was a massive part of United under Oli where we played a very compact back six and countered. So I think you've also got to, I think the mistake people make is that, oh, he played like that with Middlesbrough, he's going to play like that at Man United but I think you've also got to bring in the two years under Oli or the two and a half years under Oli because he was a massive part of that and that was very different to how he played with Middlesbrough and he might play different here and how he played at Middlesbrough might have been because the players he had so I just think let's see what happens look I completely agree the big games for me Arsenal let's get that out of the way but then the next few games where we can't really part the bus and counter are going to be really interesting.
41:26Emily says, the good thing about clear and simple basic principle is that it's easier to put in little variations to adapt to different situations, though there is the risk of it getting figured out, says Emily. Can we all agree that Mbamo is the king, says Tariq? I'm glad he got his goal yesterday. And Mojo says, I watched the game in my office last evening. Staff thought I had gone bonkers while shouting, howling, celebrating both goals. Bought drinks for all after office. Sounds great, Mojo. Hope you're doing well. Legend. Seth says, I hate that the win will prolong the owners for the first time.
41:53I can't be 100 % happy for the win. Another draw. What a win, though. We demolished them, says Seth. And I know it's scraping the bottom of the barrel, but do you think we have any chance of a last-second subits of type loan? Also, you look handsome today, says Mas Rauhawi. Thank you very much, sir. Look, I don't know. I think a loan deal is very, very interesting, and I think it's going to be better than nothing. I do. the only thing i would say constructive is that um and not negative is that um this is a this is ten hogs midfield two years on casemiro menu and bruno is ten hogs midfield now ten hogs midfield got obliterated because there was too much space we we didn't do that yesterday because we were compact and deep when we play teams where we have to open up a bit how much space is there going to be in the mat that midfield now we have michael carrick who is a former midfielder so hopefully he'll be able to solve that.
42:45But that's the thing that sort of in my head, this midfield is our midfield from two years ago and it was getting, there was too much space in it. It didn't have the legs. So how are we going to counter that? Mark, is your NFL team the 49ers? No, they got battered. No, I like the Bills. But yeah, it was a good game. Yeah, good game. Okay. Thank you everybody for tuning in. 45 minute show as well. Bloody hell, it wasn't meant to be that long. That's what she said. but we are back at 8 o 'clock tonight so thank you so much for tuning in we've had nearly 1300 likes as well which means it's been a good show and it's obviously a good show because it's made by you some really good comments there I really appreciated the look there's nothing wrong with Carrick coming in being pragmatic and getting us to do something that the players are comfortable with you are playing to the players tune and I know people say player FC but his job is to get results in the next five months he can't go in there and go, I'm Michael Carrick.
43:43I've got an ideology that's going to take two years and we need to get rid of these players and bring these players in and we're going to play this way and we're going to learn this way. He's got five months. He's got no budget. He's not selling people in the summer. He's not buying people now. In a way, it's a simpler job being an interim because if you come in with three years, you've got to look at the squad and go get rid of them. You've got to upset them and drop them. You've got to be saying, bring me these players in because I'm a new manager. He's got none of that. He's not going to upset people.
44:14He's not going to buy people. He's got to work with what he's got. And you've got to get results in a short period of time. So you've got to play to the way they want to play. You're a people pleaser in a sense. And that's why so many interims do do well, because you've not got to upset people because you haven't got to sell them. You're not going to buy anyone. You've got to work with what you've got. You've got to build team mentality and you've got to play to people's strengths. And that's the way he should do it. That's the way he should do it. But to see that as a longer term project, I think is a mistake because the minute he gets the job long term, he has got to sell and upset people.
44:51He has got to buy people. And then the whole dynamic changes. Take care, everyone. Thank you so much for watching. Casemiro arguably played his best game. Manu has just gotten back into the mix. We are not magically doing this every game. We need an equal quality six or eight for this and next year why wait says mr richard take care thank you so much and um i'm back with you at eight o 'clock speech in a bit saving money on everything for your next project when you shop at menards get your project started right with our huge selection of concrete and mortar mixes our concrete products are great for a variety of applications from installing a walkway to setting a post.
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