304: INEOS Ruining UNITED! Carrick Job BOOST!

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1:26that the factual decline of Manchester United, we're down to eighth in the world list of revenue. And we're out at the bottom, we're out of the top four in the Premier League. Embarrassing detail against Manchester United this morning. And yet there are still people there ready to sing songs about buses and Michael Carrick and watching the youth. And are we going to keep Bruno for another year? And, you know, let's blame it all on Amirim. And the reality is the football club is sinking like a bloody brick to the bottom of a swimming pool. It really is. And we're going to delve into that this morning because wake up, wake up.

2:04Also, also another story coming out that Sir Jim Radcliffe's impressed with Michael Carrick. I mean, we're stunned by that. We're stunned by that, aren't we? Fans can be impressed by Michael Carrick. Fans can jump on the bandwagon. Fans can consider giving him the job. But Sir Jim Radcliffe can't. You can't do that, mate. We've been down this road before. One game and you're impressed by Michael Carrick. Of course you are, because you'd probably do the job for free. You can get yourself a load of bloody champagne, couldn't you? They're sinking the bloody club and they need calling out. But this morning, we've got facts behind it because we can factually tell you that with the release of Deloitte's Football Money League report, Manchester United are down to fourth in the Premier League for revenue.

2:49Liverpool are top with£702 million. pounds. Man City are second with 700 million pounds. Arsenal are third with 690 million pounds

2:59The United Stand Team: and Manchester United are way down in fourth with 667 million pounds. We are dropping and it's going to drop even more because that's revenue for 24-25 when we were actually in the Europa League. Can you imagine what the next one's going to be for 25-26? We're only playing 40 games, the least amount of games we've played since 1913. It's going to get worse, people. It is going to get worse. Also, I can tell you in relation to worldwide Man United's ranking, in 2017, we were number one in the world for total revenue and global rank. That went down to third in 2018. It went down to fourth in 2020.

3:45The United Stand Team: It went down to fifth in 2021. And then this year we're down to eighth. Look, look, Man United's a business. Manchester United is a business. We know that. But it's a failing business. We're failing on the pitch. You know, you can project the most important thing, which is when Sir Alex Ferguson retired, we were number one. Who wants to plot a graph on what United have done. Maybe someone can write it down in the live chat and I'll read it out. Read down our league position since Sir Alex Ferguson left, because I guarantee it's been up and down and 8th and 15th and 2nd and 4th and 5th and 6th and all that shit.

4:21We know, we know that we are falling apart on the football pitch and have been for 13 years, but we're also falling apart financially as well. The thing that they're here for, they're actually bad at.

4:35The United Stand Team: Manchester United are dropping like a brick in a swimming pool, like I say, in relation to our revenue. And you know what? How are they going to change this? How are they going to change this? We've just spent half a season out of Europe and that doesn't take into account that. We're also looking to build a stadium, which we're going to throw debt into the club. And you think we're going to go out there and start buying world-class players and recruiting world-class managers and go for it. you know where this is going to go. Spin, spin, spin, spin. We are walking to the end of a January transfer window.

5:10The United Stand Team: I thought about this just before I went live and I thought, you know what? At the start of the January transfer window, the main thing everybody was angry about was we better go in the January transfer market and sign someone. We better sign somebody in the January transfer market. We better show some ambition to go and get fourth place, which is clearly there. That was at the start of the window. Now, now, we're not buying anyone. We haven't even got the manager here anymore. We've got an interim manager and we're not buying everybody. And Wilcox has won. Because at the start of the window, it was like, we're not buying anybody.

5:44The United Stand Team: And here we are at the end of the window. Well, we haven't got a manager anymore. We've got an interim and we haven't bought anybody. Because they've won. Because they've bloody won again, haven't they? And what are fans talking about? I'm fed up with ex-players and I can't believe Amarim didn't go and watch the youth. sometimes you worry about the general intelligence of this fan base. You really do. Because you start a month going, the only thing that matters is putting pressure on the board to buy somebody for Amarim in January. And we're now sat there without Amarim, without any signings. Oh, Carrick went to watch the youth again.

6:18And oh God, I wish Paul Scholes and Nicky Butt would stop talking. Oh God, you know. I got sent another clip of some twats on the radio. So, Nicky, Paul Scholes. And you're like, shut up, you uneducated fools. Why aren't you talking about what we're talking about? Why aren't you talking about the factual degradation of Manchester United? Why aren't you talking about the fact that year on year we're getting worse? Why aren't you talking about the fact that Manchester United are getting worse? Or do you actually wallow in it? Do you actually enjoy it? Do you actually like being part of the bloody spin cycle where you protect that for your own good.

6:59Because something sinister is going on, isn't there? And it should be called that. I mean, it's not acceptable. We know that Man United's run like a bloody business. We know it's run like a business. I would expect if we're not going to be good on the pitch, we might be top of the league for revenue. You know, we might be performing well financially. We're not. We're actually getting worse. You know, the absolute mic drop here is if we'd never been bought by the Glazers, We'd be top of the revenue and we'd be top of the league. That's the frustrating thing. We'd actually be top of the league for revenue and top of the league for performance if we'd never been bought by the Glazers because they've sunk the club.

7:40You know, we're making, what,£650 million a year in revenue. Real Madrid are making a billion. A billion. Ten years ago, we were competing with Real Madrid for, like, number one in the world. They're nearly double the revenue what we're doing. And I'm not, look, I couldn't give a toss about the money side of football. I really couldn't. I know it's a big part of it, but I want to be good on the pitch. But they're not even performing in relation to financials. And actually, before we get into some other bits, please somebody tell me how this gets better.

8:15The United Stand Team: How is this going to get better? Right? It's not a blip. Roll out Omar Barada. He's not in a wheelchair, but you know what I mean. Get him out and Omar Barada, the CEO of Manchester United, can tell us, one, how we're going to get back to the top of English football, but two, how we're going to get back to the top of being the most lucrative club in the league. It's embarrassing. We can't sit there and say, we're Manchester United. We've got a big fan base. Well, clearly that's not working, isn't it? I mean, we have got a massive fan base and you still can't make as much money as Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal.

8:49So, you know, what does that mean? We've got a huge fan base. We've probably got a bigger fan base than those clubs. But you can't get the money out of them, can you? Because you're failing. You're failing. You've got an open goal. An open goal. And you can't actually make Man United the number one revenue producing club in the league, even though we've probably got the biggest fan base. Because you're crap at your job. And how are you going to turn that round, Omar? What are you going to do? Bump up the season ticket prices and skim off the fans that actually are loyal to the club. release another replica kit that's something to do with the legend.

9:21You know, maybe you can, you know, get another kit out that looks a little bit like a kit that we won in 20 years ago. What is your plan? Because the plan of most of us would be to invest in the team, make it good, have a manager that's good, have players that are good, climb up the league, get in the Champions League, increase revenue and people will buy more stuff. I mean, that's football. That is football. Simple. What are you going to do? No. Cut our cloth accordingly. Employ learner drivers. Look long term. And continue to fail and sink the club. And you know where we sit here now? Going back to what I said before about we want signings in January so that we can get Champions League football.

10:05The fans want signings in January so we can get Champions League football. They don't want signings in January so they can go and buy a shirt with the name on the back. We want signings in January so we can get Champions League football. Champions League football earns more money. You're happy, we're happy. Oh no, we're not going to do that. We're not going to listen to that. We're not going to listen to that rubbish. Sack the manager, get an interim. That's what we're going to do. Spend the money on an interim. Spend the money on sacking a manager. And you sort of look at it and you go, the chances of us getting into Europe are probably 50-50 in relation to the Champions League.

10:40It's probably 50-50, although Liverpool did look very good last night and you don't know what's going to happen with Chelsea. So we probably got a 50-50 chance of getting into the Champions League.

10:49The United Stand Team: And we're not spending anything in January. We'll wait until the summer. If we don't get into the Champions League, the revenue report that's come out this morning is for 24-25, not 25-26, because you can't do 25-26. It's halfway through the year. So we're talking about Man United. How many games did we play last year? I would hazard a guess in excess of 50, maybe 55, maybe more. So we're going to play 40 this year. We're playing 15 games less this year than we did last year. And last year, we were in fourth place by a long way for revenue. What I can tell you next year, we're going to be even worse.

11:30Based on this season's revenue. So if we don't qualify for Europe, you know, the next two years of our revenue report is going to be worse than it is now. And it's shit now. So how are they turning this around? How are you increasing the revenue at Man United? I want to know these questions. You may as well, you know, you may as well bin off every Man United journalist if they ask this question. How are you going to improve the revenue at Man United when we've already seen last year's revenue report and it's crap and we already halfway through this year know it's going to be worse? How are you going to improve this revenue?

12:00How are you going to improve Man United? You absolutely amazing. We must all bow down to you. You amazing business people. How are you going to improve it? Because I tell you what, I don't think you know football at all. You probably know bloody finance. You probably know spreadsheets. You know petrochemicals. You know about getting your money off your dad, but you know nothing about football because you ain't turning this ship around. You're not going to do it. You're not going to suddenly increase Man United's revenue from 650 million a year to 750 million a year with what you're doing. Continually sacking managers, recruiting directors of football who haven't got a bloody clue and don't know their arse from their elbow.

12:39An ex-Manchester City COO who spent most of his time just writing checks because that's what they did. He didn't deal with a club that was run by Prats, did he?

12:49The United Stand Team: What experience has he got in turning a football club around that's massively in debt and has got morons running it? He worked at a club where his owners were like, I want to be the best, let's write a check. That's not Man United. Omar Barada has got to be the worst recruitment. He's arguably worse than Wilcox because his experience is, we want to be the best, let's write a check. He's now at Man United, we want to be the best, let's not write a check. So I don't get how we're coming back from this financially. And the finance of Man United goes hand in hand with the football because we've got owners that are bothered about finance.

13:24And the only thing I can see that's going to happen is that we're going to build a stadium that's going to make it more restrictive. And we're going to get worse and worse. We're going to get worse and worse. And even if Carrick ends up being the next Sir Alex Ferguson, how are you going to fund it? How are you going to fund it? I don't know. And it's pitiful.

13:44The United Stand Team: It's pitiful because Real Madrid have never really been massively more lucrative than Man United in the Premier League era. But they're nearly double now. They're at a billion revenue and we're at 650 million. And they don't even play in the Premier League. Florentino Perez is desperate to create a Super League because he's jealous of the Premier League. We're in the Premier League and we're still nearly half the revenue that they're making. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's so embarrassing what they've done to Manchester United. As I say, I'm not interested in the brand and the money, but it's an absolute open goal to make money out of Man United.

14:19It's absolutely simple and they failed at it in a very, very big way. So anyway, we'll move on because I want to talk about this Carrick story. But there is something I just wanted to bring in and I should have brought, I apologise, I should have brought this in earlier because it probably, well, actually,

14:36The United Stand Team: it probably works bringing it in next. So it's, I think it was Simon Stones wrote this, the 1958 group expects in excess of 5 ,000 fans to join their protest ahead of the game against Fulham on the 1st of February, which is Sunday, isn't it? Are we playing on a Sunday or are we playing on a Saturday? I don't know. What's the date today? 22nd, 23rd is Friday. Yeah, it is a Sunday. No, it's a Saturday. Oh, come on. I blame the Glazers. You should know the answer to this.

15:14I don't even know what time we're kicking off against Fulham and I don't even know what day it is. We are playing Fulham on Sunday. It is a Sunday at two o 'clock. I thought it was a Sunday. So they are expecting in excess of 5 ,000 people to turn up for the protest ahead of the game against Fulham. And Simon Stone writes this, that they view Sir Jim Radcliffe as a target for their

15:39The United Stand Team: frustration now in addition to the Glazer family. Good. Sir Jim Radcliffe chose to get in bed with the Glazers and in our opinion is helping to keep them in charge. 21 years of a debt mountain, mismanagement and financial greed is 21 years too long. So we protest not just against the Glazers, but now against Ineos and Radcliffe, a man once seen by many, including ourselves as a possible saviour, a beacon of hope, but now revealed as complicit in the ongoing erosion of everything that makes our club what it is. It's sad, isn't it? It is sad. And I actually respect the honesty there because I think while some of us never wanted to Jim Radcliffe, that doesn't mean we would say, I told you so, because we are a fan base.

16:19The United Stand Team: And if people accept they're wrong, they should be welcomed back in. I think there was a lot of people that didn't want the guitar model and that was their right. And they wanted to Jim, maybe because of his local connections, lifelong fan, British, whatever. They wanted to Jim. A lot of people wanted to Jim. And And as that statement says, absolutely exactly. He is not a beacon of hope. He is not a possible saviour. And he has been revealed as complicit in the ongoing erosion of everything that makes our club what it is. He is in bed with the Glazers. He is a Glazerite. He is. And he could easily, in the last two years, have refuted that, refused that and challenged that.

17:04The United Stand Team: You know, so Jim Radcliffe could pick up the phone tomorrow and do an interview with Simon Stone or whoever and say, no, no, no, no, no. But, you know, what can't speak can't lie. We've seen what they've done to the football club. And again, today, we see again the failings of the finances. It's like it's terrifying. It's terrifying what they actually think. It's like, let's reduce the wage bill by young players. and then you look at the revenue and you look at what's happening on the pitch and you go, you haven't got a clue. Right. I'm going to say this, right? So Jim Radcliffe and the people he's appointed haven't got a clue.

17:45The United Stand Team: I actually think we were slightly better under the Glazers and that's saying something. And I can't stand what the Glazers have done to this football club. I'm not praising them in any way, shape or form. We're talking about different shades of shit, But I actually think we were better off two years ago where we were then than where we are now. What he has done with the Glazers, and it's not just the Jim Radcliffe, Joel Glazer is still there. That's why he's on the thumbnail. He is still there making decisions. But without a doubt, Ineos and the Glazers together are worse than it was with just the Glazers.

18:20The United Stand Team: It's shocking. He's not a lifelong fan. I would argue that to his face I'd say you're not a lifelong fan because you've done if you were a lifelong fan you would put what being a Man United fan is ahead of what you've done to this football club you've put your own personal interest and your own personal money at the forefront of this project you have not put yourself forward as a Man United fan everything you've done is about business bad business but business you have not done anything that a Man United fan would have done in your two years at this club What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250.

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20:23And if you have, you've got no idea about football. Your recruitment in the board and in managers is shocking.

20:32The United Stand Team: Your decision-making is shocking. And what you've done to the very fabric of this football club is shocking. You're going to be the guy that knocked Old Trafford down as well. Some people agree with that. Some people don't. So he has to be involved in the protests and shame on those people in the summer that attacks the 58 for doing the protests. You know, I know content creators who did videos calling out the 58 saying they shouldn't be doing it. Well, are they going to do apology videos now? I could start naming them people if you want, doing videos, actually taking a pop at the 58 for doing a protest and including Sir Jim Radcliffe in it.

21:07The United Stand Team: Oh, they won't be doing that now. They'll be doing their little hipster videos about, you know, this, that and the other. They won't be apologising to the 58 and calling them out for doing that protest and including Sir Jim Radcliffe because we thought we were going to get the Labour. No, no, you'd just be doing your little hipster videos, weren't you? You should be apologising. You were wrong. Accept you're wrong. I've done it multiple times. Multiple times I've apologised to this community for being wrong. I didn't think Rashford had gone out on the piss. I was wrong. We could have had this protest at the start of the season and it was stopped by certain people jumping on a bandwagon that we shouldn't do it because we're signing the Labour.

21:43The United Stand Team: Well, here we are. It's happening now. That's good. Everyone should get behind it this time because it's six months too late. And they were ridiculed and lambasted and called out for doing that. And they were right. They were right to include Sir Jim Ladcliffe. They were ahead of the game. And we've wasted six months. We need to get on it now because Sir Jim is a Glazer and the Glazers are Sir Jim. And they are sinking this football club. There is nobody, nobody, whether you're watching this live or not, who can give us a statement or one area where we go, well, you know what? I think we're a bit premature.

22:18The United Stand Team: I think things might turn around. There isn't. I can only see worse. And even if you want to focus on the financials, if we're fourth place in the Premier League now for revenue, a long way behind Arsenal, Liverpool and Man City, that's based on last season. What's it going to be this season? It's going to be worse. It's going to be way worse. Let me read some of your comments. Amit says, non-negotiable urgency of restructure is imminent. Hope you're well, Mark, says Daniel Thompson. The greatest thing the devil ever did was make you believe he never existed when all along they were hiding in plain sight.

22:53The United Stand Team: Unfortunately, it's what Sir Jim Radcliffe has turned out to be. Real Madrid are government funded. No comparison, says Andy Hart. No, mate, you might want to go and understand finance. We're not talking about government funded. Man City are funded by... I always get it wrong. Is it Abu Dhabi? We're talking about revenue. The government don't chuck revenue into Real Madrid. Whether they're funded or not, revenue is what they make from TV deals, success, merchandise. Revenue is not funded by Abu Dhabi or Saudi or anything like that. I think this is good news. The more the club loses value commercially, the more the owners lose their investments and interest in the club.

23:39The United Stand Team: Clowns running this club will only accelerate the process, says Ami. Look, I was talking to Terry the other day and he was saying, if we don't qualify for Europe, no Man United fan should buy any merchandise in the summer. I said, all they've got to do, there are so many aggregators out there that start leaking the new kit. I'm surprised they haven't done it yet. You know, we'll have record sales even if we get relegated. Like, you're not going to stop that. but we are the revenue as Neil Fish says the fans are the revenue and if the fans turn the tap off you know maybe don't buy Man United top you know maybe put it towards your holiday fund and wear this season's kit I mean look there's lots that can be done but we're failing on the pitch and we're failing off the pitch Nick P says failing financially is great news that's all they've ever cared about anyway they can't flog a dead horse anymore so may as well sell and move on success on the pitch also translates to success off the pitch and as we're failing on the pitch were also failing off the pitch, says Henry.

24:35The United Stand Team: Look, I know we're talking about Glynios here, but we've had many a chat over the years about the Glazers. And the one thing I can never understand about the Glazers, and it really does show their lack of football knowledge, is that they've had people like Sir Jim Madcliffe, Sir David Brailsford, Ed Woodward, Richard Arnold, all these people around them, and they want to make money. Why has nobody ever said to them, you know, if you spend a little bit, you'll make a lot more? you know if you have a successful team you'll make a lot more they've never figured that out they've never figured it out I'm amazed anyone believed the mystery signing news when has anything come out of the club been a mystery says Jbox I think we will get Champions League and become better over time says Charlie you know what Charlie I hope you're right I really hope you're right but if we qualify for the Champions League I look at teams like Newcastle I look at teams like Tottenham and I think how the hell how the hell is this squad gonna deal with Premier League and the Champions League, the Premier League and the Champions League.

25:33The United Stand Team: I actually think if we get in the Champions League, it'll be one year in and we're out again. I don't think we are anywhere near set up to sustainably stay in the top four and compete in the Champions League. I actually think we would get in and drop straight back out. We'd have one year of good revenue and then we'd be straight back out. The club's just not set up for it. We're not thinking long term. We're not building long term. We're not building a squad that's capable. Hi, Mark. Nothing won't change until those prats have gone. We're still a sinking ship getting deeper. It would take a long time to get back to the surface.

26:08The United Stand Team: Ineos and Glazers out, says Mark. Palmer to United. Yes or no. Spin continues, says Sam. I feel like a fool, but I want Carrick as coach, says Liffa. I mean, mate, look, to be honest with you, you're not a fool. If you're a Man United fan and you're starting to think that you want Carrick, that's just the naivety of being a football fan or even, you know, an even nicer a word. That's just the emotion of being a football fan. It's impossible for football fans to think long-term. You go game to game, you win a game, your head says, we can't get behind this manager. But then you go, we've just beat Man City.

26:42The United Stand Team: I want him to get the job. I like him. There's no logic being a football fan sometimes. So you're not a fool for wanting Michael Carrick to be the manager. But the board is. The board are morons. I wouldn't call a Man United fan a moron if they want to give a job to Michael Carrick. I'd say it's laughable, but I wouldn't say you're a moron because you're led by your emotions. This is what we did with Oli Gunnar Solskjaer. I was one of the people outside Old Trafford singing Oli's at the Wheel. And I feel a bit silly for doing it, but as fans, you're allowed to get emotional. But the board can't start dancing around and doing it either.

27:21The United Stand Team: The board have to be responsible they have to be intelligent they have to take emotion out of it i i saw something today actually just reminded me i'll bring it in um so effectively um it came in from i think it was let me get it here

27:49came in from Jeremy Cross

27:53The United Stand Team: who's a journalist look take it with a pinch of salt but it's news the executive meeting that had been planned to take place in Monaco Carrick said he couldn't justify travelling to the south of France when he had important work to do on the training pitch he told his bosses he would be adapting a different approach to training and match preparation that he was invested in quality more than quantity. Talking to each other player and being honest, however brutal that might be at times, was just as valuable as having the ball at their feet on the training ground. Club sources say Sir Jim Radcliffe was very impressed with the calm and intelligent demeanour of his new interim manager.

28:29I mean, that, look, that to me is terrifying because as fans, you can fall for it. It doesn't matter. It's emotion without responsibility.

28:41The United Stand Team: But if Sir Jim Radcliffe is sitting there going, well, you know, I actually like Michael. You know, I think he might be the right guy. It's the same old bullshit of, wow, you know, at the end of the day, you know, Dan Ashworth is a 10 out of 10 director of football, you know? And, you know, at the end of the day, Ruben is here for three years. At the end of the day, we've had a thought, think about Eric, and we're going to keep him, and we're going to give him 300 million pounds. You know, at the end of the day, you know, I talk shit and get proven wrong all the time. And it's scary. it's very scary and it's very real that Sir Jim Radcliffe could be impressed by Michael Carrick and go there's a three-year contract and that's what scares me I don't mind fans saying give him a three-year contract you know that's why we're not running football clubs we're emotional people who get emotional about things um but it terrifies me that Sir Jim Radcliffe will sit there and go well he's cheap he's a puppet he'll do as he's told he's very very intelligent he's a very nice person he's nice to jason he's nice to omar he's nice to me he's cheap um he's played for the club before the fans really like him he's cheap um he's you know he's not going to be too demanding in the transfer market um he's a good shield for us from the fans because he's a club legend he's cheap and we won't have to spend loads on his coaching team because they're cheap.

30:09The United Stand Team: And he's the sort of manager that might be able to keep us hovering around fifth place for the next few years while we build a stadium and he's cheap. And I think that that's what scares me about this is that I don't think it will take that much. Take Michael Carrick out of it and whatever you think, just think about your board. Think about the first 20 minutes of this show. Think about the sinking revenue. Think about how the club is falling. Think about the money problems. Now, if you're in charge of that football club, do you want to go and invest another 200 million pounds on another manager and his staff and the manager?

30:44Or do you want to work with somebody that's desperate to stay cheap and will work pretty predominantly what he's got and do what Jason Wilcox says? I think it's inevitable, inevitable that they're going to push the Carrick. Now, you might be happy with that as a fan. You might be not happy with that as a fan. I'm not talking about your opinion as a fan. We can have that conversation. I'm talking about a board that's financially in trouble that gets shit all the time, who I think will do exactly, scarily, what we did with Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and do exactly the same thing again and go with an interim to protect themselves in the short term that is cheap and a yes man.

31:25And I think we're heading straight towards that again. Absolutely. It's terrifying, but I think we will do it. I think we will. And there's nothing wrong with you wanting Carrick. I'm not going to slag you off for it.

31:34The United Stand Team: What I'm saying is the board shouldn't be doing that. They shouldn't be going anywhere near this. In fact, they shouldn't even be keeping an open mind. It should be an absolute public statement that under no circumstances will Michael Carrick get this job. We are not going down that route. That is not our vision. They should have a vision in January 2026 that isn't Michael Carrick in the summer of 2026. And nothing should change that. They should be absolutely working their arse off talking to managers for the summer now. They shouldn't be going, well, maybe we'll give it to Carrick because it will end in disaster.

32:09It will 100 % end in disaster. Maybe two years, maybe three years, maybe one year. But we shouldn't be doing it. But again, would I be surprised? No. because we've just spent 20 minutes talking about how they're ruining the club. And part of ruining the club is continually making bad decisions. And they will continue to do that. And Carrick is cheap. And I think they will stick with him. Somebody just said, why are you ruling it out? I'm not

32:34The United Stand Team: ruling it out. I'm talking about the decisions that the incompetent board will make for different reasons to us. You might want him to get the job if he wins 10 games in a row because you're like, I genuinely believe he could be the next Alex Ferguson. We don't have that evidence yet, but you might do that. They'll do it for a different reason. My stance is not until April do you even start thinking about it. And even if you want to do it, you still interview a load of other people in the summer. You don't just give it to Carrick because that's what we did with Oli. You've got to interview everybody else because you might think Carrick's good.

33:06And then you interview Tuchel and you go, yeah, he's on a different level. You've got to interview everybody else in the summer. You can't just give it to Carrick. Even if we get Champions League football, You can't do that simply because you look at, I mean, Ryan Mason did well at Spurs. Is he the Spurs manager? You know, there aren't many interims who become permanent who do well. And there's a reason for that. Feel good factor.

33:29The United Stand Team: Everybody's in it together. The minute you become a permanent manager, you've got to accept people. You've got to say you're going, you know, I've got to bring in them and them in.

33:40interim managers it's a false economy because everybody knows it's short term they know it's short term so you cut corners you don't make the difficult decisions Michael Carrick for example might be in there and he might go you know what I really do want to get rid of Maguire and Casemiro in the summer but for now I'm just going to I'm not even going to mention it because I need them now and then in the summer if he gets the job he's like i need you to go and then people go oh look at the way he treated that you know and it becomes very different but as an interim you've just got a very simple job you don't have to think about long-term decisions you don't have to think about hurting people um do fans realize if glenios build a stadium the club will be in two and a half billion of new debt yeah and i mentioned this last night and i think it's a conversation that well look protests are happening aren't they um the club is sinking financially already um we're not doing particularly well on the pitch so them announcing the new stadium and a load more debt you know will that go down well um owners are going to milk the club dry then leaves as chickens and um so jim radcliffe in his tenure has more done more damage along with the Glazers have sunk the club and it's still sinking.

34:58It's a disgrace what they're doing to our club, says Daniel Thompson. Amit says United went from Gryffindor to Hufflepuff. Okay. Of course being funded helps these

35:09The United Stand Team: figures. Inflated sponsorship are now allowed. United don't do any of that. Could easily have 500 million in your sponsorships, says Andy Hale.

35:21Yeah, but what we're talking about is still revenue, isn't it?

35:26The United Stand Team: And you have clarified yourself better because, first of all, it sounded like you were saying, well, we can't compete with Real Madrid because of that. You're right. Look at what Aston Villa have done in selling their women's team. Look at what Chelsea have done in selling hotels. Ineos could get 10, 20 million pounds into the club straight away by calling it, you know, by sponsoring Ineos at Old Trafford or something like that. They don't want to put their money in.

35:52so yeah look yeah yeah it's a fair point but look these football clubs are built on wanting to be successful these football clubs are built on they are businesses but think about Real Madrid think about Manchester City is that they are how do I put this

36:18The United Stand Team: they may be criticised. You know, the Saudis having control of Newcastle, if they could spend, would make Newcastle probably the best club in the world or one of the best clubs in the world. And you get criticised for that. But there is a hypocrisy, huge hypocrisy in our fan base because we look at Man City, we look at PSG, we look at Newcastle and go, it's immoral. It's immoral how these rich people can come in, buy football clubs and pump money in to be successful it's a moral it's a moral it's a moral and maybe it is maybe it is a moral but hey guys lady luck here are you going on any road trips this summer i know i'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips and being that i'm going to be passenger princess i love playing on spinquest.com spinquest has all of my favorite slot

37:29Is it not immoral for a football club, an institution, that people died playing for in Munich, that has been through so many ups and downs. One of the greatest footballs in sport, one of the great stories in sport, Manchester United, tragedy, success, that gets acquired by a bunch of bankers who buy it on debt, not their own money, leveraged debt that they pay off with our profit and are allowed to do that for 25 years. well I'm sorry if somebody rich wants to buy Newcastle and pump their money in it to make them good that might be immoral but what the Glazers have done to Man United well it's criminal it's not immoral it's criminal how it's been allowed to happen how they're still here to this amazing football club is a disgrace so I don't I think I think I think I've changed my approach in relation to Newcastle and PSG and Man City.

38:38Maybe it's not good for football, but I tell you what, compared to what we've got going on, I'd rather have that as a problem than this as a problem. I'd rather have an owner where everyone's going, it's immoral what you're doing. You've sold your soul. They're just pumping money in. I'd rather have that and get to watch good football than what we get from people who shouldn't be anywhere near this football club. I just don't think we have a case to answer anymore when we criticise PSG or Man City or Newcastle or Real Madrid or Barcelona or anyone else. Even Barcelona with their levers. Is that right?

39:13But why are they doing it? They're pulling all those levers. They're selling their toilet paper rights or whatever they sell. They're pulling all those levers because they want to compete with Real Madrid. They want to win things. It was only about five years ago. How many years ago was it that Barcelona let Messi go? And it was like people were crying at the stadium. It was a huge moment in football. Barcelona had to sell Messi. Messi. They had to sell Messi to basically survive. And now they're winning La Liga again. They're performing good football again because in a short period of time, they've gone from being on their arse to being back.

39:55we've been shit for 13 years all because the owners are shite it's criminal how long Man United have been irrelevant you go on holiday and you speak to people from Spain or America or whatever and you talk about Man United and non-Man United fans will talk to you and go

40:17The United Stand Team: I can't believe you're not in the Champions League I can't believe how big a club you are and how long you've been shit basically it is embarrassing it really is embarrassing and we have been bad for so long like we are the Real Madrid of England we are the PSG of England we are the Bayern Munich of England but none of those clubs would be in the wilderness for 13 years they bounce back because they've got people in charge and fans that are like well this is not acceptable pull a few levers get some investment in we've got to be the best but we're not because we just don't employ best in class.

40:56We end up with absolute morons in charge of the club running it. Are you feeling confident that we can get a result against Arsenal, says Ron? Well, it's look. I know this morning's been very heavy on bigger picture, but it's a preview live at eight o 'clock tonight for the Arsenal game. So we'll go through all that. I've got a lot of stuff I want to say. Slazy says, interim managers are like substitute teachers. It's fun because we get away from the boring and demanding teacher, but in the end, we don't learn anything. Very, very good analogy. I like it. Emery to United with his Villa PSR frustrations.

41:28It's going to have a lot more frustrations at Man United J3. Man United are always looking for a quick fix. Everything they do is for a quick fix rather than build little by little, says Dylan. Yeah, yeah, Dylan. But you know what? I almost agree and disagree. Because in football, I think you've got to go long term but short term. and I think with Amrim, when you look at his win ratio, look, I think Amrim should have stayed till the end of the season. I think he should have been backed in January and stayed till the end of the season. But forget Amrim, let's talk about Sir Jim, Berada, Wilcox, the Glazers, right?

42:09What they did with Amrim was go long-term, long-term, it's a long-term, it's a long-term, it's a long-term and people were going, but look at the win ratio. Look at how we're playing. Okay, you can see a long-term plan, but why haven't you bought a midfielder? Why haven't you bought wingbacks? Why are you talking about next summer? With Amorim, everything was like in the future, in the future, in the future. And that's fine, but you've also got to deliver now. Now, they should have bought midfielders for Amorim. They should have bought in wingbacks. They should have done those things, but they didn't.

42:45They went long-term, long-term, long-term. Are they going to keep doing that with the next manager? Because there's a right way of doing it. Look at Manchester City. It's a long-term plan with a short-term plan. It's Semenyu and Gehi now to help the team now. But in the summer, it was people like Cherki, who is a bit of a long-term signing. And a year ago, they brought a couple of players in that were more long-term as well. Kushanov, the midfielder. So Man City do it the right way. They bring long-term and short-term in. So you've always got players that can help you now, bring it brought in, but also players for the future as well.

43:28And ultimately they're bringing players in. We don't bring players in in January. So I think in football, because it's a results business, you've got to be winning now and for the long-term. Look at Arsenal. Look at what Arsenal did in the summer. Hincape, Kepa, Norgard, Jokerez, Maduweke, Eze, and I feel I'm going to miss somebody else as well. Mascara. Not many learner drivers there. Quite a few players ready to go now, but also a bit of an eye on the future as well. that's how you do it you go for the now and you go for the future as well Zubomendi that was the other one as well Zubomendi for now you know and look somebody I saw somebody say well yeah we might be fourth in the Revenue League but look who's in the top three the Champions League whores I thought that's a bit harsh but I think what they meant is well yeah the reason Man United are in fourth is because Man City and Arsenal and Liverpool have been in the Champions League more than us.

44:43Yeah.

44:47Well, what's the answer then? Exactly. They're in the Champions League because they're better than us because they've got owners that are building teams for the now. Of course they're going to earn more money. Hello? If you're in the Champions League and you're not in Europe, there's going to be a big difference in your revenue, isn't there? Why aren't we in Europe? Well, there's only one reason we're not in Europe. And that's because of the people who run the club. We can change the managers as much as we like. But, you know, ultimately, the people who run the place are responsible for it. History has shown how bad owners can ruin clubs, says Neumann.

45:20Blackburn Rovers were once a mighty club, now fighting to stay up from relegation. Let's force them out. Ahmad says, I don't know what Ahmad says. He's on one today. Welcome to Members Club, NK. You're an absolute legend. Thanks for getting your badge in. And Emi says, the Barca example is well cited. They bounce back up in no time because sporting excellence was their primary objective, not commercial success. But you know what? It's been said many times because it is true. If Man United win the Premier League and it costs you half a billion to do it, you're going to make a shitload of that half billion back.

46:01And you're going to be in the Champions League. So if you spend half a billion on players to win the Premier League, it's only an example. I'm not saying we could win the Premier League by winning half a billion. But if Man United spent half a billion to win the Premier League, straight away you're in the Champions League. So that's 100 million that we're not getting. So that's 400 million, right? Right. Plus, there's going to be a load of extras for that in relation to shirt sales, pipe, everything like that.

46:30The United Stand Team: If you win the Premier League, there's a very high chance that you're a good team that's going to be in the Champions League for the next couple of years anyway. So that's another 200 million coming in. It's not long before that expenditure is going to feed more money coming in. but if you don't spend that half a billion all right you don't spend it but also you're not in the champions league for the next three years that's 300 million you're not getting my point is in football if you spend you probably will get it back in the modern day maybe not 20 years ago but now if you spend you will get the money back it's only in recent years that you were basically guaranteed of 100 million pounds for being in the champions league so that's why arsenal went and bought half a fucking team in the summer.

47:13That's why Liverpool did it as well. The money you get from the Champions League is incredible. And if you can get into the Club World Cup, that's another 100 million, isn't it, every four years? So you can project expenditure against income. And that's what clubs are doing now. Arsenal were never really massive spenders, but they're now going, well, look, we've been in the Champions League the last three years in a row. We're good enough we're always going to be in it we can afford to spend our fan base is growing you know the stadium's full every week speculate to accumulate united just don't do it they're like well we don't want to whose money are we going to spend i'm not spending the glazes like well we're not spending my money and so jim's like we're not spending my money so it's sort of like well you know let's just potter along uh and see what happens but look this is an entertainment sport.

48:03It's not meant to be a business. Unfortunately, we are being run by a business, but Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, they're not businesses. They're football clubs. Their reputation is football. They're big names because of winning football games. They're not big names because they're next door to HSBC Bank. It's football. You've got to win football matches. it's a competitive sport there's only a limited pool of managers and good players you've got to get them at your club that costs money but they will bring money in people are going to start switching off from man united uh every business has long-term goals supplemented by short-term ones we claim to have long-term aims but subvert them when the decision is made in the short term it's totally counterproductive look patrick you're right even the united stand has long-term projections against short-term short-term is what we're doing today.

48:56We've got a 10 o 'clock show, two o 'clock show, eight o 'clock show. There's a match at the weekend. When's the preview?

49:02The United Stand Team: There's short-term goals that you have to hit. There's then long-term things like we're doing a live show in Dublin, or we're going to be going on tour in the summer, or we're going to sack. I'm not going to tell you. We're not sacking anyone, but you know what I mean? Or we're going to do this. We're going to do that. Or we're in talks with this. That's any business but you've got to look after the short term glennios don't want to win because if we do they need to invest and they can't compete with other good owners all they need is tv rights hence top four so stratford signal i'd like mate it's it's incredible because i literally said this yesterday and i think a lot of people have figured this out i think there is a document or a hidden conversation maybe they only do it verbally so only a few people know but i guarantee you in that boardroom, they have sat there and said, if we can finish fifth for the next 10 years, we'll be fine.

49:54And that rips your heart out as a fan to know that there are people in power dictating the emotions of millions of fans saying, if we can finish fifth for the next 10 years, we'll be fine. And I guarantee it, I'd love to get into a room and interview one of them because I'd get it out of them, as I'm sure you would. Not with violence or anything like that. I just think you'd be able to ask certain questions and send them down an alleyway where they'd get stuck. And those questions would be, why Man United are not winning the Premier League? How are we going to win the Premier League? What's your plan to win the Premier League?

50:27How much are you going to invest to win the Premier League? Why aren't you spending that money to win the Premier League? You'd have them going no comment in a very, very, very quick period of time because they wouldn't be able to deal with the bombardment of moving them down an alleyway of where they actually are. Fifth place is where they want to be. I'm absolutely convinced by it. I mean, Omar Barada basically let the cat out of the bag a few months ago anyway, didn't he? When he said ahead of the Europa League final that we've factored in qualifying for the Europa League final for the next two or three years.

50:57So they've already run them and run what football club runs the numbers on. We're OK for in the Europa League for the next three years. What football club does that? Do you think Liverpool sit there and go, it's OK? the only reason you run the numbers about being in the Europa League for the next three years is when you're projecting what you want to spend. So if the Glazers and Sir Jim say to Omar, we only want to spend this much, and then Omar goes, okay, that's doable as long as we're in the Europa League for the next few years. That's why they're running those numbers. So I'm absolutely convinced that their projections are based on fifth place for the next 10 years, which is not acceptable, is it?

51:42um tom says morning everyone nothing will change till glenios are gone no matter how good the results or signings we will not stop protesting till they're gone thank you very much tom uh history has shown i've done that from no man uh as well but look you know what we are our own worst enemy in a way because it was a fantastic result on saturday and there's been a lot of you know justifiable happiness but how many times have we done that in the last 13 years how many times have we beaten Liverpool, Onefield, One Matter how many times have we beaten Man City multiple times we will not be successful over 38 games we are not we are not running that way however we can turn up on occasion and do something like we did on Saturday but where's the consistency going to come from look for the next few weeks it's interim it's like it's like that substitute teacher everyone's enjoying themselves because it's not real like maybe we will go and win a load of games but we fucked the season up anyway haven't we really you know we're not in we're not in the fa cup we're not in europe and we're not in the carabao cup i mean god these these lads should be should be playing well for 90 minutes every bloody week you know they've had a holiday this year.

53:00I mean, it's amazing we've got any injuries because it's the easiest season they'll ever have in their careers. I mean, they're basically getting a season off ahead of the World Cup. Every international manager should be calling up Man United players going, they've hardly played at all. It's like a new signing. So, we should go and get some results over the next few weeks because we're going to be playing teams that have played a lot of football. Next season, I think it will be back to reality, whoever the manager is. the only reason they don't want to spend on the team is because they don't trust the team an owner who doesn't trust his own team will never succeed says doku mate i think that's it i think that's a lot of bollocks so you think so jim radcliffe sits there saying i don't want to spend on the team because i don't trust it so so basically what you're saying is i'm the owner and i don't want to spend money on my team because i don't trust it that's exactly the reason you would spend money because you don't rate it if i've got a striker i don't like i'm not going to go i'm not going to spend any money on a better striker because i don't trust that striker of course you're going to go and spend the money.

53:55Plus, you're also making the mistake that they actually know what they're on about, which they don't. Cole Palmer is supposedly frustrated with Chelsea's lack of vision. Oh, yeah. Eric, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, great, Eric. So, Cole Palmer is frustrated with Chelsea's lack of vision and wants to sign for Man United. I tell you what, we've got such a lack of vision, we're blind. So I don't know. I mean, Cole Palmer being frustrated at Chelsea and signing for Man United. I mean, there's an analogy there that's just a mic drop. And, you know, even as somebody likes analogies, I can't think what it is.

54:31It's like, you know what it is. It's like having your finger in your fishing bowl, in your fish bowl, and your goldfish is nibbling on your finger and you're going, this is painful. So you go and jump into the sea with a great white shark and you think it's going to be better. It's literally out of the frying pan and into the fire, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, he'd have to be a different level of stupid to sign for Manchester United. I think he's a childhood Man United fan and I think he's from Manchester. So maybe that would be a reason, but he'd be a bloody moron to come and play for this club. Let's get real.

55:08He's not fingering his goldfish. That's disgusting. The goldfish is nibbling on his finger. On FM26, I sold Bruno and Xerxi, Martinez and Maynou Paz at 10 and a 110. We'll take the job junkyard, James. You can have the job. There we go. Okay, I'm going to stop there, but a fantastic show this morning. We have got a live eight o 'clock preview of the Arsenal game tonight. Definitely tune in for that because I love a live preview. And we've got Ben Jacobs on the show at two o 'clock with Beth as well. So always like that show. You can get some latest stuff on what's happening. Apparently, Real Madrid don't want Ruben Neves.

55:53So Ruben Neves is still out there, isn't he? But whether United are going to do anything or not, I don't know. I mean, look, when you look at the revenue and everything else like that, you can say, I mean, where's all this money coming from in the summer, by the way? Reduced revenue. we're going to get reduced revenue again where is all the money going to come from for this um that's what worries me next you get you know you get the client journalists talking about you know i don't want to spend in january because they want to go big in the summer i guarantee we start getting those same journalists in april going you know with the um with the issues with the team uh united can't spend any money we'll have to wait and see don't forget to smash the like button on your way out as per gabrielle uh legends thanks everyone for tuning in really enjoyed it with you this morning and i'll speak to you all a little bit later take care

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