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1:28from Manchester United's Twitter account, like bigging up longevity of players that maybe shouldn't be here anymore. We'll talk about that in a moment as well. Also got a bit coming in from Barcelona around transfers for the summer, but we're going to start off with Fabrizio. Now look, Fabrizio Romano, David Ornstein, they're good journalists when it comes to transfers and you can only put what you're told. But this story that I read last night, I thought, you know what? Some people are going to talk about it and they're going to go, oh, Ruben Ham, Ruben Ham should pay for his crimes. So basically, this is what Fabrizio said.

1:59If Ruben Amirim hadn't been sacked, Manu would likely not be a Man United player right now. He was set to leave on loan to Napoli. Talks with the player were already very advanced. I call bullshit. I call bullshit. And I think, you know what? I don't know whether you feel like this, but I get this a lot with United. Like, players, manager, I know the role. You're there to win. You're there to perform. If you do, you get praised. If you don't, you get criticised. But the structure of the board and the way the clubs run and the vision comes from the Glazers, Sir Jim Radcliffe, Ineos, Barada. And I think, is this all you've got?

2:36Do you sit there in the boardroom thinking, what can we feed out there to spin to make ourselves look good? Why don't you actually just do something? I mean, is this all you've got? Is this the plan? Take things and spin it to make you look good in hindsight? because I tell you what, we can all play the game of the stupid mistakes you've been making for two years, 20 years. And this Manu story, I wake up this morning and all I can hear is, oh, thank God we got rid of Manu. Thank God we got rid of Amarim. Oh, this was the problem. People even go, Wilcox got it right with Amarim. Absolutely spot on.

3:11And I think, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. Like, Beth doesn't rate Amarim. That's fine. Terry, I don't think rated Amarim. That's fine. I would have only given Amirim until the end of the season. I wasn't happy with some of the things Amirim did. But we've also got to call out the bullshit when it's quite clearly spin. It's quite clearly nonsense. This is quite clearly... Manu's playing well in a 4-3-3, by the way. Let's try and justify a shit season and pin it all on a manager that we actually appointed. Because when you break it down, right, this is nonsense, right? Ruben Amirit... Sorry, Fabrizio...

3:47I'm getting mixed up this morning. I've got Ruben Amrim, Kobi Meynou and Fabrizio Romano. And for some reason, my mind is struggling with all three trying to differentiate. So bear with me. Fabrizio Romano is saying that it's likely that Kobi Meynou would not be a Man United player now if Ruben Amrim was still in charge. But it's nonsense. I'm sorry. It's nonsense. I mean, are we just going to ignore the truth here? for Maynou to have left Man United in January, we would have had to buy a replacement, which the club have said they weren't going to do. So, I mean, they couldn't lie straight in bed.

4:23So Maynou would not have been a Man United player if Amriem had stayed, but Man United have said they never planned to sign a midfielder in the summer. So you're in January. So this is what I mean. And look, someone in the chat says you talk nonsense. Well, I don't talk nonsense, mate. and you're more than willing to get in the chat and tell us why I'm talking nonsense here because I just deal in facts. Some people don't like the facts. Some people are player FC. Some people actually are Glazerites. But Amrim is gone. This is not about defending Amrim. This is about calling out spin that is still continuing after Amrim's gone as the club tried to push everything onto Amrim and alleviate themselves of the blame when it is their fault.

5:09I don't know what Fabrizio's talking about. I don't know who's told him this nonsense. I'm sure, I'm sure Maynou was talking to Napoli. Like, Tonali appears to have been talking to Arsenal behind Newcastle's back, but Newcastle weren't selling him in January. And whether Maynou was wearing a bloody t-shirt saying free Maynou, wasn't he? So, no, Maynou's brother. So, see, I'm flustered this morning. But my point is, I call bullshit. I call bullshit. I do not believe for one minute that Maynou wouldn't be a Man United player now if Amorim was still here. Because that would have meant letting a midfielder go and going down to Casemiro, Bruno and Agate.

5:49No manager's going to do that. They're not going to do that. So this whole, oh, it's a good job we got rid of Amorim because Maynou wouldn't be here. Hold on a minute. You're in charge of the club. You wouldn't sign anybody in January. It's one of the reasons Amarin left. And now you're trying to say, well, if we'd kept Amarin, Meynou wouldn't be here. Mate, you're the people who signed the deal off. You wouldn't have signed it off. There's no way Agathe or Meynou were going to leave in January unless a replacement came in. And now we're suddenly being told, well, if they hadn't have sacked Amarin, Meynou wouldn't be here anymore.

6:24Oh, what was Meynou going to rip up this contract and leave, was he? Come on. It's just, it's just, is this all they've got? Is this literally the plan of Manchester United to just spin and turn stories to make themselves look good? How's about going out there and actually doing something? How's about going out there and actually getting a midfielder in January? Because you can't say Maynou was going to leave in January and then say you weren't going to sign anybody. It's complete nonsense. Complete nonsense. You know what? I did a little bit of research as well. Against Wolves in December Maynou came on off the bench And Agathe was unused Against Bournemouth 4-all Maynou came on with half an hour to go We were losing 3-2 And we got in front to 4-3 He then got injured And was injured until Amrim got sacked So in the last game Amrim could have used Maynou He brought him on for half an hour He was going to, apparently he was going to start him against Villa, but then Maynou got injured and was out.

7:27So he actually, he actually used him against Bournemouth. I think it was Bournemouth the t-shirt game. It might have been, I don't know. He used him against Bournemouth for half an hour and we were losing 3-2. And then he got injured until Amrim got sacked. So I don't think he was going anywhere. In fact, if he stayed fit, he would have been playing next to Casemiro when Bruno got injured for two weeks. So, look, I just think I just I just I just I'm not I don't want to drag up old stories, but that's exactly what the club seemed to want to do. It's just this constant. Is that all you've got? And everything they try and put out there is riddled with contradiction.

8:08You can't say Maynou was going to get sold if Amrim stayed and then say, well, we sacked him because he wanted transfers. You can't do that. You just can't. Anyway, look, I wanted to just cover that because a lot of people talking about it. this morning, so-called content creators, so-called journalists. And, you know, if you're going to talk about something, I think you really should do your research and you really should look at the other side of this. And we've just, we've just, we've literally three days ago and for the last two days been told that United never planned to buy anybody in the January transfer window.

8:37And now we're being told Manu would have left if they kept Amrim. Yeah, because we were really going to sanction that. We weren't, we weren't, we wouldn't have had any, we wouldn't, we wouldn't have gone for anybody, would we? We really wouldn't. And also, just the main point here isn't Mainu. I think it's great. Mainu's playing. I've always wanted him to play. I want him to sign a new contract. I want him to be a big part of our future. And I agree, he probably should have got more game time under Amrim. But I think he genuinely was going to get game time and he got injured. It's a shame. But the point is, he probably doesn't suit the 4-3-3.

9:10He suits the 4-3-3 more than he suits the 3-4-3, as do some of our players. But the club never should have appointed a 3-4-3 manager and not backed him. It was stupid. But I do... Everything seems to come back to... And I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Do you just find yourself sometimes thinking about this club that we love and going, what's the plan? Like, what is your plan? Because the only plan seems to be papering the cracks, distracting fans telling lies being caught out that doesn't I would have thought when Ineos came in and said to the Glazers we'll take 27 % we'll give you 2 billion we're going to run the football side of things I would have thought they had a better plan than this I really would because I was thinking about Michael Carrick actually what do you think about this right I like Michael Carrick I like the fact that we've won three games in a row.

10:09I think we'll win the next three as well. I think there's a big chance that they may give him the job in the summer if that happens. And, you know, it's very entertaining watching United at the moment. I think it's very dangerous to give him the job because we don't know what the vision is. And I think being an interim manager is very different to being a full-time manager. However, taking it away from that, are you telling me when Ineos got hold of Man United after two years, their plan was to stumble upon an ex-player who'd managed Middlesbrough and a bunch of out-of-work coaches, and that was the plan.

10:44You know what I mean? I sort of think, well, I've got no problem if Michael Carrick gets the job because he wins a load of games. But it still puts a focus onto the ownership and says, so you basically bought 25 % of the club with a vision to rebuild the club, and two years in, you're stumbling on an ex-player with very little experience and a bunch of unemployed coaches. And that's the plan. You know what I mean? Like, I've got nothing against Carrick. Maybe Carrick could be the next Sir Alex Ferguson. But my point is, if I buy a business, I have a plan. Two years in, I don't just see somebody who's out of work on the streets and say, do you want the job?

11:26Oh, you're actually good. That's not, this is what I mean. Everything just seems to be stumbling along. Oh, we're going to give Amram three years, three months later he sacks. Dan Ashworth's the best director of football in the world. No, he's not. He's sacked. We're keeping Eric Ten Hag. We're giving him£300 million. No, we're not. He's sacked. It's like this has got nothing to do with Carrick getting the job. What I'm talking about here is similar to the main news story coming out. There's no structure. There's no vision. There's no plan. It's like stumbling along. And if Michael Carrick gets the Man United job and becomes the next Sir Alex Ferguson, I'll still say this in 20 years time.

12:03No credit goes to Jason Wilcox, Sir Jim Radcliffe, Omar Barada, because you cannot take credit for stumbling over your own shit into a bloody goldmine. Like you can't. If Michael Carrick was the plan, why was he not the plan 18 months ago? If Michael Carrick was the plan, why didn't you give him the job after Eric Ten Hag? You've stumbled on this. And that's scary. That's scary that we have an ownership that just hasn't got a bloody clue, hasn't got a plan and might stumble into something that works. But they should be strategically walking into that position, if you know what I mean. So I do just despair.

12:44Like. They're clueless. They're absolutely clueless. And I hope Michael Carrick succeeds. And if he gets the job, I hope he succeeds. and I do like Michael Carrick, but this wasn't the plan from Ineos. This wasn't what they were talking about two years ago. This wasn't what they were talking three months ago. This was not the plan. So I suppose in a way that suggests that really they shouldn't be recruiting Michael Carrick. They should have a better plan than that. But I genuinely don't think they do. I don't think they do. I don't think they know what they're doing. I think they're stumbling along, making it up as they go.

13:19And I think they probably will give it to Michael Carrick, to be honest with you. They probably will. But no, I just wanted to get those two things off my head because I think it's like, I do think there's a lot of opinion out there. I do think there's a lot of debate and a lot of good debate. I think there's a lot of good conversation. But I do find myself, and I'm sure you do as well, constantly thinking, is this the plan? And look, we've been down this road so many times. We've seen this movie so many times before. You wake up, you see the Maynou story and you go, that's just from the club.

13:50That's from the club. Hey, maybe put this out there. If we hadn't sacked Amrim, Maynou would be gone. No, he wouldn't. Well, he would. Amrim didn't like him, but he wouldn't, would he? Because the last game Matt Amrim could use him, he used him for half an hour and he changed the game. And then he probably would have started him, but he got injured for a month. And then you sacked him. And also, you said you weren't signing any midfielders in January, so you wouldn't have sold him anyway. It's bullshit. I'm sure Maynou was talking to Napoli, but we would have said no. So why are you putting it out there now after a transfer window where you were shit.

14:21Oh, could it be distraction? Could it be popularist bullshit to make yourself look good? Oh, that's not like Man United, is it? It's not like Man United to put out distracting positive stories to make other people look like idiots and themselves look good. You have to scrutinise it. Some people don't, but I think you do. I understand your point, but I think there's a reasonable level of hypothetical talk on that Maynud comment, but I get your point. I don't think there is Kiel. I genuinely don't think there is. I think if you think Maynou wouldn't be a Man United player today under Amrim, you're having a laugh.

14:55Why would you go down to three midfielders? I'm sure Maynou would have pushed for a move, but if he'd stayed fit, he would have been playing anyway. And we weren't going to buy anybody. So you can't hypothetically say, well, I think Fabrizio is right. I think Man United are right. I don't. We've just had a football club come out and say they didn't want to buy anybody in January. So you wouldn't let a midfielder to go. Look at Xerxes. Xerxes is the prime example. Xerxes is not going to get any game time between now and the summer. And he didn't get hardly any up until January. Did we let Xerxes go?

15:27No, because we didn't want to get a replacement in. And the same thing would have happened. And Manu could have worn some t-shirts. He could have, you know, he could have moaned as much as he liked, or he could have got on with it. But we weren't going to let him go because we weren't interested in bringing a replacement in and you're under contract. And look at Xerxes. He ain't going anywhere. He hasn't gone anywhere, has he? Morning, Mark. Hope you're well. We have yet to see evidence of a plan on anything. We don't seem to have any plan or strategy on anything, says Mike. I just think we're...

15:56I just think Man United spend... I used to work with somebody years ago, right? They were lazy and they spent so much of their day putting energy into getting in a way with not doing any work. I always felt you could spend half of that energy just doing your job and you'd be better off. And I think with United, they spend all this time spinning plates, putting bullshit out there just to survive when actually, if they actually had a plan, they'd get a lot more respect. Patrick Lynch says, the constant disparaging of Amrin by the hierarchy is similar to what they did after firing Ashworth. It's being used as a distraction.

16:36They tried to hide their bad decisions by making out moving them on was necessary. Well, look, Patrick, we were always going to be in this situation because they've completely, I mean, it's arguably one of the worst January transfers with windows we've ever had.

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18:24With the best one in the world, if you're David Ornstein, Ben Jacobs, Fabrizio Romano, whoever, you can't be an island. You can't really get the stories off your own back. You've got to build relationships. And sometimes it is. I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. We'll give you this if you say that. You know, I just think that main news story is a load of bollocks. It's got more holes in it than a hedgehog's pillow. Please could give my boyfriend Joe a shout out for his birthday. He's 26 and watches the show all the time. Emily, thank you very much. Big shout out to Joe. You're an absolute legend.

18:56I hope you have a great day. You've got a great girlfriend there looking after you as well. So happy birthday to Joe. I'm sure everyone in the chat will say as well. Big Tong121 welcome to the members club thank you very much for getting your badge in Ryle says hi Mark why do you defend Amrim no no no no we're not doing this Ryle right I know there are people out there that hate Amrim and that's absolutely fine but I will not in any way shape or form be a hypocrite on the things I said before he was shockingly sacked I would have given him signings in January and I would have given him till the end of the season and I always said that so it's not about defending Amrim it's about defending the view I had before he was sacked so not defending anybody and being consistent with my opinion there was people when I was saying that who were saying sack him I respect that so respect my opinion that hasn't changed throughout the whole season I was very frustrated with Bruno playing in the midfield I was very frustrated that we couldn't defend the lead but we did need to buy players in January and ultimately that's why he got sacked and we didn't buy anybody in January anyway so I and ultimately as well Ryle it's like blaming the cook instead of the people who employ him like why don't you why are you a Glazerite why are you so obsessed with Amrim do you think Ruben Amrim ran the club do you think Ruben Amrim decided not to buy players do you think Ruben Amrim decided not to buy a midfielder do you think Ruben Amrim put the club into debt do you think Ruben Amrim appointed himself from sporting it's like whatever you think everything goes back to the same people

20:34um Glynios trying everything before Amrim's interview says Frank and Gringer says if the wins continue is it still a new manager bounce or strong evidence Amrim was misusing half a decent squad funny what putting players in their correct positions and an orthodox formation does says Gringer I mean I think this is a great point but I'll give you the counterpoint to it so you're basically saying that if Carrick gets Champions League football does that mean sacking Amrim was correct and that the 4-3-3 is the best formation for United. Well, I don't know whether you watched the Fulham game, but we nearly drew.

21:08We did. And I don't know whether you watched every game that we played under Amrim, but we were in the top three for chances created with him. We were. So what that tells me is that we weren't far off. We should have beat Bournemouth. We should have beat West Ham. We should have beat Spurs. We should have beat Forest. We should have beat Fulham. There's loads of games that we weren't far off. And when you're building a project, You would expect those results to turn into more wins, but we abandoned the project a year in. So I don't see Carrick's football as a project. I see it as a stopgap. I see it as what Oli did.

21:424-3-3 is exactly what these players want to do. But it won't work next season. It won't. It's not going to work. This is just like, this is Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea. This is for three or four months, let's do what everybody likes and let's get results. and then in summer, whoever the manager is, we will have to rebuild. And then next season, they won't do it because it won't be shiny and new and it won't be about what they want. It will be about what the coach wants. And then we'll have to start the project again. And the problem is, Gringer, is this is not a project. This is a short-term fix.

22:14The minute we start a project, will these players react to a project or will they not react to a project? Because when you're building a project and a vision, it can't be a 4-3-3 playing the way we are because actually we all know it's not sustainable. We all know it will get found out and we all know these players won't be able to do it week in, week out. So I think it's a good question, but I think it's a difficult question. And in no way, shape or form should anybody be critical of Michael Carrick. He's doing exactly what I would do. I would go in there and just play the way the players want and minimise training and focus on energy.

22:53but you're getting confused between building a project and a stopgap this is a stopgap if Carrick gets the job he won't carry on like this he'll do whatever his long vision is and we don't know what his vision is maybe Michael Carrick can't stand playing Maguire and Martinez at centre-back but they're the best two centre-backs he's got to get results maybe Michael Carrick doesn't like playing Ahmad on the right wing I don't know what I'm saying is he will have ideas that he will bring in when he gets given the job. This is not his plan. This team is not his plan. He's not going to use this team next season, is he?

23:28He is not stupid. He's going to want to change three or four. Well, he's got to change Casemiro as well. Morning, Mark. Have a nice day, says Christopher. Thank you very much. This brings me on to actually something I wanted to bring in here. I don't know what your thoughts are about this. It caused some it caused some debate last night. In fact, somebody mentioned it on the seven o 'clock show last night and I didn't know the context of it. So Man United posted this last night. Longest serving current United players, right? Look, the thing about United is they'll always do the same old things.

24:04They will subvert the negative into a positive to try and influence you. And so they put this out yesterday celebrating the longest serving current United players, right? When I saw it, I wanted to go out and have a walk. I was like, I actually can't believe that we would celebrate this. But here we go. Luke Shaw's number one, 11 years and seven months. I mean, I'm just going to have to just go over here a minute. 11 years. 11 fucking years. 11 years.

24:42All right, I'm all right now. 11 years and a half, actually. 11 years and seven months, Luke Shaw. Deleuze, seven years and a half. Seven years and seven months. Maguire, six years and five months. And then Bruno Fernandes, six years at four. I mean, I haven't got a problem with Bruno. Look, I like Deleuze. I like Maguire. And I used to like Luke Shaw as a decent left back. but when I look at that right when I look at our longest serving current United players with all due respect to Shaw and Deleuze 11 years and a half seven years and a half if I said to you now or at any point over the last few years do you think Luke Shaw and Deleuze are fundamental parts of a title winning team the answer would probably be no maybe Luke Shaw at one point for a year but firmly probably no for most of that 11 years and below seven years and I look at longest serving players at Liverpool and Arsenal and Manchester City and look it might be a freak of nature where it's somebody like I don't know Curtis Jones or something stupid like that because he's a youth player.

25:58But those players are first team players for Man United. And I'm not saying they're bad players. I'm just saying it's indicative of the issues of Man United that when you look at Luke Shaw, Deleuze, Harry Maguire as our three longest serving players, they're all consistently first team players as well. And none of them are going to win as a Premier League and none of them ever would win as a Premier League. So Manchester United are meant to be a side that wins Premier Leagues and our three longest serving players would never win you a Premier League. They should be, Deleuze, Shaw and Maguire would be Spurs players for me.

26:36That's where they should be. If I was looking at Spurs and Luke Shaw had been there 11 years and Deleuze had been there seven years, even Spurs fans might not be happy by that. But it's a fair point. I saw a lot of people reacting to it. Deleuze is playing well for us at the moment. Luke Shaw has had a year or two. Harry Maguire is a great servant to the club. But your three longest serving players probably do say a lot about what your club is. And if that's your three longest serving players, you can sort of see why we don't qualify for the Champions League very often. And we don't get into title races because 11 years and seven months from Luke Shaw is unbelievable.

27:17Seven years and seven months from Deleuze is incredible. if they were at Man City that had been got rid of ages ago. If they were at Liverpool that had been got rid of ages ago. So what I'm saying is, and I think, look, again, it's not being critical of them. It's just reflective of what we are. You can't moan about what we are and then you've got information like that. I think when you look at that, what do you think? When you look at Man United's longest serving players and you've got Luke Shaw for 11 years and seven months and you've got Deleuze there for seven years and seven months. That's a long time.

27:55It's a very long time. And they've never not been first team players, have they? They've always been in that time. They've always been knocking on the first team door. So it sends a message, doesn't it? It sends a message that if you've had that quality of player near your first team for that many years, it probably explains why you don't get where you need to be. It probably explains why it's always a flip of a coin as to whether you're going to be in the top five or not. The quality is not at the level it should be. But the bigger question is, it's not their fault again, is why they're still here.

28:38If those players are question mark players, which they are, why have they been here so long? And again, it evidences the complete and utter incompetence of the way the club has been run that we retain players of that level for so long. And let's not forget, if you'd done this six months ago, Lindelof would be in there in the top three because Lindelof had been there longer than Maguire, which again, evidences exactly the issue of we retain players that aren't good enough for too long. Deleuze would probably be a very good right back for somebody like Burnley or Crystal Palace or Everton. but at Man United it's been proven that he isn't the level that you know Man United need a right back that's one of the best right backs in England don't need to be English but one of the best right backs in the Premier League we don't have that we haven't had one of the best right backs when was the last, great point when was the last time Manchester United had one of the best right backs in the Premier League?

29:41Gary Neville?

29:46you could go through the whole I think this is a great point. When was the last time we had one of the best goalkeepers in the league? De Gea. What, two years ago, three years ago? When was the last time we had one of the best right backs in the league? I'd say Gary Neville. Valencia did all right. Valencia did all right, to be fair, but that's a long time ago. When was the last time we had one of the best left backs in the league? I mean, I do think Luke Shaw had a year, but out of 11 years, that's a shit hit rate, isn't it? I mean, Timo Werner's better than that. one year out of 11 that's not really good enough is it?

30:18Centre backs when was the last time we had two of the best centre backs in the league? I mean I want to say we've done better than Rio and Vidic but

30:31I mean I think Maguire's done well at times I don't think he's ever been one of the best centre backs in the Premier League though yeah I'm struggling when was the last time we had one of the best holding midfielders in the league? Casemiro had one good year. I will give him that. His first year was good. So, you know, fair play, one year of Casemiro out of the last 13 years, really. Bruno's done very well. When was the last time we had one of the best strikers in the league? Probably Ronaldo for that season. But you know what? For a club like Manchester United, that's a really good exercise in the issue.

31:09When you go through your 11, you should be able to say well we had the best laugh back in the league two years ago we had the best right back in the league four years ago we had the best goalkeeper three years we've got the best centre back now we're not in these conversations so I think when United post out look at our longest serving players it just serves the point that we've just said there we keep players that aren't good enough for too long and when you look at our squad it's not good enough either Manchester United should always have four or five of the best players in the league. We should.

31:43I know that sounds ridiculous now, but we should always have four or five of the best players in the league. We've only got one. Bruno Fernandes, that's it. And that's a debate, but I think it's true. Yeah, Patrice Everett was one of the best left-backs in the league when we had him. We all watched Amrim's Man United team for months as rain, lacking risk. Yeah, I'm not here to talk about Amrim, mate. Thank you very much for your super chat, but we're not here to go back on that. We're talking about Man United still blaming Amarim for a lot of the things they did. We're not talking about whether you think Amarim should have got sacked.

32:18I don't think that serves a purpose. I think we should have kept him till the summer and backed him in January. We didn't. We've had that conversation a month ago. If you think that we're having that conversation, you're not listening and some people don't listen. And I'm sure we'll get comments about people not listening. But the point is, why are Man United putting out stories about Manu wouldn't be here if they kept Amarim? It's bullshit. They weren't going to buy a midfielder in January, so they would never have let him go in the first place. It's all about distraction. It's all about blame shifting.

32:47If you didn't want Amrim, fine. We're not talking about that. We're not going to have an argument about you thinking Amrim was shit. That's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is our ownership, lack of direction, how they stumble on things and don't have a plan and spend so much time distracting everybody because they're shit at their job. That's what we were talking about. Casemiro has also been the best DM in the Premier League this season, since class of 99. Mate, you're having a laugh. Mate, is this the same Casemiro that in December people were saying is shit? Is this the same Casemiro that's better than Kaiseido and Declan Rice?

33:23Bollocks. Come on, mate. Let's get real. Another Glazerite in the chat. Mark, Manu wasn't playing. We even had a poll. Amrim out or sell Manu. Ownership is horrible, but let's not change history. Amrim wanted him out, says Aman. man. We're not, again, like, look, I apologise to people in the chat. I have to put up with this all the time. People who don't listen and just wander off on their track. I don't know whether it's low IQ. I don't know whether it's player FC. But it was detailed to you quite simplistically. Man United sacked Amarim in January. Amarim's not here anymore. Romano is saying that there's a high chance that Manu wouldn't be here now if Amarim had stayed here.

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34:35Because Maynou played half an hour in the last game for Amrim and then got injured. He would have been starting because Bruno got injured, but he was injured. And then Amrim got sacked. And in January and February, the club have put it out there that they had no intention of signing a midfielder in January. So they have the final say. And even if Maynou's banging on the door and Amrim's banging on the door saying, get him out, Man United wouldn't have done it. because they didn't have a plan to bring a midfielder in and you wouldn't be allowed to go down to three midfielders. And actually, Amrim wouldn't have let him go because he wouldn't want to go down to three midfielders either.

35:08But you're not listening. You're trying to hypothetically do what the Glazers are doing. You're trying to write a hypothetical headline which only serves one purpose. Distract the blame from the club and pin it all onto a manager that was appointed by that club. For me, Shaw was the best left-back in the Europe two to three years ago, says Robert. Well, I agree with you. I agree.

35:34I do agree with you on that one. But one year out of 11, I think the fact that Luke Shaw has been here for 11 years and eight months is disgusting. I do. I'm allowed that opinion. I think the fact that Luke Shaw has been here 11 years and seven months is an absolute disgrace. And I don't blame Luke Shaw for it. I blame Man United for it. like when I think of players that spend 10 years at a club, you've got to be a club legend. Otherwise, somebody's fucked up. You don't keep players that aren't club legends for more than 10 years. You only do that if you're being run badly and they're allowed to just survive.

36:15And it's not. Can I just say, Anthony, at no point have I said Amrim was good. So this is what I mean. I think sometimes we do get infiltrated by idiots who don't listen to what we're talking about. At no point have I said we should have kept Amirim. At no point have I said he was the guy. I'm just saying that here we are again and you're the morons that fall for it. You are falling for it. You're talking this morning about how shit Amirim is. That's exactly why that story is there. I can lead you to water, but if you don't want to drink, that's absolutely fine. The reason you're talking about how shit Amrim is is exactly what the club want you to do.

36:58They've just orchestrated the shittest transfer window ever that closed three days ago. And here you are talking about a sacked manager and how shitty he is. That was the point of the story. Has the mic dropped yet? That's literally what we're talking about. Why are we talking about how shit Amrim is today? Because that's the story. That's what they want to do. Oh, if Amrim had been here, Maynou would have been sold. We shouldn't be talking about Ruben Amrim. We should be talking about the club's direction, why they didn't buy players in January. What's the plan for the future? And the reason you're talking about how shit Amrim is because you've fallen for their shit again.

37:34That's exactly what the story is about. Why is the story out there? For you to start doing that and you've walked straight into it. Straight into it. Is there any point this morning in talking about how shit Amrim was? No. It's got nothing to do with anything, has it? But it has because that's the story that's been put out there, which is completely and utterly hypothetical bollocks. Maynou wouldn't be here if Amrim was. What a crock of shit. Nobody can prove that. Nobody can prove that. And it wouldn't have happened. Hi, Mark. Ineos League record says it all. Man United 8th, 15th, Nice 5th, 9th, 5th, 9th, 5th, 4th.

38:18Luzon relegated twice, promoted twice, mid-table at best. Best in class, you're having a laugh, results don't lie. Steve, that is absolutely... I mean, I don't know whether this is true, but if that's Ineos' record of owning three clubs, 8th, 15th, 5th, 9th, 5th, 9th, 5th, 4th, and relegated twice. I mean, they don't know what they're doing then, do they?

38:45I still think about the conversation between Ganaccio and Amarim. Good luck finding somewhere. How did it get to that point? Well, we're not defending Ganaccio now, are we, Kiel? I mean, he's going to end up at Strasbourg, isn't he? Why is Ranyuk a hero for calling out the ownership that Amarim is being demonised when he got the chop for doing the same as One Inch Wundo? Because, unfortunately, when you've got a very, very big pool of people, some of those people will be easily led. And we have a lot of people who are easily led by this ownership and they spend a lot of money analysing how to manipulate you.

39:21And it works. They just want to bury Amarim so we don't bury them. It needs calling out, says Mike. Yeah, but that's exactly what I'm doing. But you call it out and

39:35people defend the glazes. Robert McCormack says Amron wanted to be sacked. I think he did. I do. I do, Robert. I think he did want to be sacked. But I don't want to go back down now because the people who matter are the ownership. The people that matters are now. That's the whole point. Why are we back talking about that? Because that's in their interest to do that, to deflect on the fact that three days ago, the transfer window closed and they did absolutely nothing. Let's talk about Michael Carrick. Michael Carrick's got a very difficult job. He's trying to get a Man United side into the Champions League that isn't really expected to be in the Champions League at the start of the season.

40:12One or two injuries to the midfield and he is screwed. That's the real story. The story really is what happens if Casemiro or Menuh get injured? Carrick's down the creek without a paddle. But we're not talking about that, are we? We're not talking about the relevant topical thing. Look at Spurs on Saturday. They are decimated. We should win this game. They are decimated by injury. They've got Van der Ven, Romero, Solanke, all doubts on top of about eight players that are out as well. They're absolutely down to the bare bones Spurs. And that could benefit us on Saturday. But what if that happens to us in a month?

40:49And we've not strengthened a team that needed strengthening. That's the story. The story is why the club have kept their hands in their pockets at a time when Michael Carrick could have done with a couple of lone players. That's the story. Red Devil Girl says people need to stop referencing the Europa League final. If not for Mickey van der Ven's goal line clearance, it'd be a different conversation. And we let attackers go in January and didn't replace them, says Red Devil Girl. I mean, to be fair, Red Devil Girl, you won't get any sympathy from me on the Europa League final. I thought it was a shit show from Amrim.

41:17I thought it was a shit show from the players. I thought it was an absolute embarrassment, to be honest um toad emperor says they are not clueless just couldn't be bothered uh thank you very much pal and daniel thompson says hope set hope everyone's well whether people were amory min or out shake it all about the fact remains the ownership again not taking blame for their errors deflecting blame spinning a narrative and thus surviving like gloria gainer well look i suppose what you're saying daniel and and you're absolutely correct is that at any point Has Sir Jim Radcliffe come out and apologised?

41:50Has Jason Wilcox come out and apologised? Has Omar Barada come out and apologised? Or have they just stood there oblivious to the fact that it's their fault? If I was Sir Jim Radcliffe, I would have done an interview at the end of January to communicate with the people that matter. I mean, he sat there in October when we'd won a couple of games and communicated how Amarin was going to be for three years and was very stubborn about it. In January, he sacked him. I would have done an interview. I would have said, look, at the end of the day, we've made mistakes. We didn't intend to make those mistakes.

42:22We'll learn from those mistakes. We apologise to the fans. They're very loyal to us. They understand there's a lot of work to be done and we've made some mistakes. But we felt that it was right to do this now rather than continue down the path of making that mistake. And obviously we take full responsibility for making that mistake in the first place. But we feel that we can amend that mistake by doing this. But it's not ideal. I don't know why. All my life when I make a mistake, I'll front up. In an entertainment sport, it actually makes sense. You'd be more endearing to the fans. It's a dictatorship though, isn't it?

43:02It's arse covering. Why you couldn't do that, I don't know. Instead, they spend all their time trying to deflect and make out they were doing the right thing. But look, even if Amrim was the worst thing that ever happened to Man United, they still should come out and apologise for appointing him in the first place because they did it. But they don't. They try and make it all about him and take no responsibility themselves. Seb Goldbridge says, I agree, Dad. Romano's fell off lately. By the way, can you bring me some McDonald's for lunch to school? Rajaf says, when will Masraoui replace Deleu at left back?

43:36He's clear of Deleu. His origin pass for the winner last week was underrated. Amazing aura. No way Deleu does that. Look, mate, some people think it's an easy pass because Bruno does the feint, doesn't he? But Masraoui did get involved in that goal and I just think Masraoui should be starting over Deleu. He's a better player. He's a better player. I think as a manager, I never understand coaches that stick with the player that's not good enough. Put your best players on the pitch. Maz Raui should be starting ahead of Deleu. There's something about Deleu that every manager picks him. Like, Ten Hag chose Deleu over Wan-Bissaka, which I agreed with, to be fair.

44:20Amrim obviously loved him, and it looks like Carrick's going to stick with him as well. But Maz Raui's better than Deleu. You're right. That doesn't mean Deleuze not played well, but Masraoui is better than Deleuze. 100 percent. The January window exposes their lies. They didn't buy anyone in January. Ineos is like when you lost your driving, you take a turn and somehow landed on the right road. None of this is planned, says Ray Carl. Yeah, it's stumbling management, isn't it? One Inch Wonder says my mum's name is Claire. Oh, my God, I'm in trouble. And she has a fridge magnet of Wilcox because she says he's handsome.

44:51Do you think those two things are connected? Oh, no, you're right. You're right. yeah thank you very much for that United and Amrim stating the player is the future of the club and will not be allowed to depart in January reports from December Wilcox interview soon says Stretford Signal

45:13and Imran says I just had laser eye surgery I feel like this summer is make or break if we don't get the centre midfielders and other players will be left behind for good says Imran thank you very much Michael Carrick's been nominated for Manager of the Month. Beth's just messaged me there. Well, he should be. Would he not win it? Trouble about Manager of the Month is you don't want the Manager of the Month cursed, do you? I mean, didn't Amrin win Manager of the Month as well this year? So, be wary of Manager of the Month. But he should win that, shouldn't he? Because I suppose it's only three games out of five.

45:49I don't know who else had a good month. Let's have a look.

45:55I'll be able to tell you if he's going to win it. Because it's got a form guide, hasn't it? So we've won three out of our last five. One of them's... He only won two in January.

46:15I don't know how he can win it, because it wasn't Fulham February. He only won two games. Fulham. Fulham was February, wasn't it? So I think it's because we were unbeaten in January, wasn't it? So Carrick gets it by default. We beat Arsenal. We beat Man City. We drew with Burnley and we drew with Leeds. So there was four Premier League games and we were unbeaten with two wins and two draws, basically. so I don't know that anybody's got a better record than that nobody's got a better record he will win it because nobody has a better record than two wins and two draws in January um

47:18Newcastle got two wins a draw and a loss Literally We had a better January than anybody Because we were unbeaten So he will win it Because nobody's won

47:34Nobody was unbeaten in January apart from us So he will win it He will win it Beware the manager curse Beware the manager curse What was Rosinha's record? Yeah, they lost one and they won two, lost one, drawn one. So it's a bit of a weird one, isn't it? Because Newcastle also won two, drawn one, lost one. I mean, technically, Eddie Howe and Rosinha should get it because they manage more games, but I think Carrick gets it with a little bit of help from Fletcher and Amrim's results as well. um idios and glazes are like a broken record because the same spin news that keeps popping from the club and they try and get the fans hope up so it doesn't work thank you very much pal for that uh don't forget we've got the press conference for you today reaction and we've also got um what else have we got we've got the preview live at eight o 'clock tonight which i'm really looking forward to i love doing the live preview so you can join me for that um wilcox interview soon we've won three games as Stratford signal and I don't you know what funnily enough I don't think they will do it I don't think Sir Jim Radcliffe or Wilcox will do an interview at the moment because they as much as we've won games the natural question would be but didn't you make a mistake with the previous manager which they won't want to ask um Shaw has a similar number of appearances than Bruno who's been here half as long shows how our squad management has been awful over the years is patrick and uh yeah look luke shaw's been here for nearly 12 years bruno's been here for six and i think bruno's played the same amount of games which again shows you the ridiculous i mean think of the wages like think how much we've paid luke shaw in 12 years and how much we've paid bruno in six years and they've played the same amount of games going off the news yesterday that was skint if we then don't make champions league do you think that that would then make them having to sell the clubs as thomas they're not selling the club they've got a bloody they've got an actual focus group now working full-time on the stadium regeneration um is it colette roach from the club is now working on that exclusively they're not going anywhere uh i've read your super chat rajaf it was about um masrawi wasn't it uh mike says i'm not having this laid at amram's feet who hired him and then decided not to back him incompetency is exclusively a glenius trait.

50:09Thank you very much for that. Appreciate you.

50:16Okay. Thank you, everybody, for watching. I'm going to go and get a cup of coffee. Fantastic show this morning. Good conversation. You know I'm not afraid of it, and I don't think you should be either. The only thing I would say, slightly frustrating, is that some of you have fallen for the... Some of you walked into the trap. Hopefully, not many of you will do in the comments but some of you walked into the trap you're there talking about um

50:43but there we go um the whole point of that story from romano is to make you slag off amarin and be positive about the ownership three days after the window closed and they didn't do anything sounds a little bit deliberate to me thanks for watching take care we've got the press conference I think the press conference might be a little bit later so just watch out it might not be at 2 o 'clock I think it might be at 3 o 'clock so just keep an eye out for that one but 8 o 'clock definitely live as well thanks so much for watching have a great day stay safe if you're in the UK the weather's absolutely crap again it's been raining for about a month I just saw Noah with some animals heading towards a big boat actually so be careful speech in a bit

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