319: RESIGN! Sir Jim Must GO! Tuchel SNUBS United!

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0:33Find out your welcome offer after you apply, which could be as high as 175 ,000 points. Learn more and find out your offer at americanexpress.com slash explorer dash platinum. Terms apply. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the United Stands. I'm Art Goldbridge, and this is your latest Manchester United news, as Sir Jim Radcliffe puts his foot in it and surely must resign. and Thomas Tuchel snubs the Manchester United job. He's expected to sign a new contract with England today. But look, with Manchester United, it's never plain sailing, is it? And look, I think get out, resign for Sid Jim Radcliffe is the way to go.

1:12I mean, look, there's a few things I would say at the start here and obviously everyone's going to have their opinion. But what I said last night has been proved right. You don't politicise Manchester United Football Club and he has done that. And what he has actually done is divide the fan base because you've got one section of people who are pro-immigration cuts on his side and ignoring the football because he said something they like and they're passionate about it. And then you've got a load of other people who are pro-immigration who are coming out saying he's an absolute disgrace. And ultimately, we're a football club being politicised.

1:45And that is exactly what I said last night. I mean, look, I have seen the Prime Minister come out against this. I've seen the Mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, come out against it. And yet he's doing a project with the Glazers and Sir Jim Radcliffe. So, you know, politicians spinning for their own benefit. Surprise, surprise there. I've seen nothing from Manchester United Football Club. I've seen things from the Kick It Out campaign. I've seen it from Manchester United support groups, etc. The 58 have come out as well. Nothing from Manchester United at all. And if you don't understand the severity of what Sir Jim Radcliffe's done because you agree with what he said, you're completely missing the issue.

2:24Let me break it down for you. Maybe I agree with Sir Jim Radcliffe. Maybe I agree that there's too much immigration in the UK and it's killing the, you know, killing the economy and there's too much going on. Maybe I agree with it. Maybe I don't. Maybe I agree with people putting up flags. Right. OK, maybe I do. Maybe I don't. Maybe I think the flags are ridiculous. Maybe I think there's not a problem with immigration. The point is, it doesn't matter whether I agree with it or not, because he runs Manchester United Football Club and my politics and his politics should not be utilised by his ownership of Manchester United.

2:56It's not about being left wing, right wing or sat in the centre. My politics mean nothing. Your politics mean nothing. His politics mean nothing. This is Manchester United Football Club and we're being politicised. So it doesn't matter whether you agree or disagree with it. I mean, I look at the news this morning. You've got lefties being rolled out saying it's a disgrace and this, that and the other. You've got righties coming out going, he's absolutely spot on. And I think, get out of my football club. This is not what Manchester United should be for. You should not be using Manchester United to further your political arguments.

3:29If you want to do that, resign and go and join reform or Labour or whoever you want to join. This is not a political animal. This is a football club. And what people don't understand is it doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not. You're being played. You're being played. You're being politicised by a man who's meant to be changing the football side of Manchester United and is failing and sits there in an interview saying he thinks he's doing a good job. And then tells us about his political beliefs in relation to immigration. What's he going to tell us tomorrow? What he thinks about the death penalty?

4:03You know, what does he think about overcrowding in prison? Should we take everybody and drop them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? I mean, maybe I agree with that. Maybe I don't. But the point is, you don't politicise Manchester United. It's incredible that he's done that. And also, is Manchester United not meant to be about inclusivity? Wherever you are in the world, whatever time you get up in the game, wherever you come from, Manchester United support our football club. We're a club about inclusivity. Well, not anymore. Not anymore. Not unless you're paying your taxes. So look, again, the point is not whether you agree with Sir Jim Radcliffe.

4:40The point is, why is he using his position as a Manchester... No one wants to listen to Sir Jim Radcliffe. The only reason we're listening to him is because he owns Manchester United. So he's basically utilising Manchester United Football Club to further his political beliefs. And that's wrong. Whether you agree with them or not, that is wrong. And it's disgusting that Manchester United Football Club have done nothing in the 12 hours since he did that interview, which was premeditated and he knew he was doing it. It's for Sky News. It's disgusting. So all these people going, I agree with what he said, or all these people going, it's disgusting what he said.

5:14It's irrelevant what he said. The point is, you believe it, you disagree with it, you're on the fence about it, whatever. You don't politicise Manchester United. He should be gone. He should be gone. He can't come back from this. If he apologises, what you meant, you clearly meant it, mate. You clearly meant it. And you might appeal to some people, but you're not going to appeal to others. And also, can I just say, I couldn't give a toss about his politics. I don't. I really don't. I'm not bothered about his politics. They don't really bother me. I'm not like they're screaming and shouting. He shouldn't say it.

5:51And I'm not screaming and shouting saying he should have said it. But what I will say is when people are using it for political points, because we've got Keir Starmer, the prime minister of the UK, and we've got Andy Burnham coming out and they're saying it's a disgrace. They've done plenty of things that are disgrace as well. I'm not interested in politicians scoring political points. There's a massive regeneration project that's going to get Old Trafford knocked down. and this government and Andy Burnham are part of that project. So don't start coming out slagging Sir Jim Radcliffe off when you're actually going to do a big project with him in the Glazers, which a lot of people are against.

6:28So that's one thing. And also, when he talks about immigration, let's get real. I've seen people listing off Lenny Yorro, Martinez, Bruno Fernandes. Come on. He's not talking about that, is he? He's not, though. He's not talking about that. He's talking about mass immigration into the UK where people aren't paying benefits and the system is paying for them. That's what he's talking about. He shouldn't be doing that because he's Man United's partial owner and he's here to talk about football. He's not here to be political. If he wants to do that, he shouldn't be Man United. But this is what I mean.

7:03If you agree with him, the people that don't agree with him are going to come up with silly arguments as well. And this is why he shouldn't have said it, because he's politicising Manchester United. You can't just sit there online going, I agree with him. I agree with him because other people are going to twist his words and make him look like the next Hitler. Like, so this is what I mean. It makes absolutely no sense what he's done. None at all. And the best bit is, is that when he says things like, you know, the country can't put up with all these people coming in here and living on benefits, mate, you literally got into bed with the Glazers who put no money into Manchester United and sit back and take the benefits.

7:45The hypocrisy is incredible. The Glazers took Man United for nothing, basically came over here and took Manchester United for nothing and then take benefits from it. And you're sat there talking about something political where, all right, it's not the same, but it's not dissimilar, is it? The Glazers came into England, took Manchester United for nothing, never put a penny in and take everything out. So, you know, it's madness to me. But look, the big thing is this should be the end of Sir Jim Radcliffe. And that to me is a big positive because what he's doing at Manchester United is a disgrace.

8:25The club is a joke. It's an absolute joke. The last two years have been ridiculous. The statement from the 1958 is absolutely spot on. Talking about ticket prices, the obsession with money, sacking people where we are on the pitch, not buying people in January. The football side of it is absolutely abysmal. And I think it's a disgrace that he's politicising Manchester United in a position of power to basically play on the political emotions of some of our fan base to curry favour with them. It's a disgrace. And there's people in this chat and there's people online going, he's right, he's right, he's right.

8:58That doesn't bother me because that's your belief. But this is a football club. It is not the political club. Manchester United is never going to be a football club that stands up and says, get rid of immigration from the UK. You know, we vote reform. That's not what Manchester United should be. Manchester United is never going to be that. So if you think Sir Jim Radcliffe cheering for your cause makes Man United a better football club, you're a moron. You're not a moron for your political beliefs. You can believe what you like. But Manchester United should never, ever, ever, ever be utilised for somebody who is an owner to push their political beliefs on a fan base that doesn't actually follow those political beliefs in its entirety.

9:36We're about inclusivity. So he's an idiot and he should go and he should be forced out. And if you are Jason Wilcox or Michael Carrick or Head of Communications or the Glazers or Omar Barada, you should be having serious questions about yourself this morning and how Manchester United Football Club is going to react to that because you are associated with that as an employee of his. It's a very serious thing that he's done to politicise Manchester United. And an apology, what's the point of an apology? He clearly sat there and meant it. I've listened to the interview. It's premeditated. It goes on about colonisation.

10:16He clearly means it. It's incredible. If this was Arsenal's owner or an owner of another football club, I would go, wow, what the hell are you doing comparing Manchester United and immigration? like what are you doing as a Manchester United owner sitting and doing stuff like that it's incredible so there should be a statement from Manchester United I assume there'll be an apology from St Jim Radcliffe although why apologize when you believe it and you have every right to believe it but I don't know how he thinks he's going to get listened to and the scariest thing is when you bring it back to football if that's the judgment of the guy that's meant to be taking Manchester United back to the top of football, we ain't going back to the top of football, are we?

11:01Because if he thinks that's a good idea, if he can sit there as a deluded billionaire thinking this is a great idea, this is really going to make me popular with the entire Manchester United fan base, if that's his judgment to do that type of interview, then it explains a lot about how we spent half a billion on two sacked managers, Dan Ashworth's been sacked, we won't by in January. It explains a lot. If this is the justification of our owner, that he thinks that sort of thing is a good idea, it explains a hell of a lot to me. So look, a lot of people will avoid this. I mean, I guarantee someone like Rio Ferdinand, who's on the Man United payroll, he ain't going to say anything about this, is he?

11:42He's very vocal about everything else. I would love to think he will come out and say something, but there'll be a lot of people who are on the United payroll being very quiet this morning. And I think that's a joke. I think that's a disgrace. Because as I said, an owner of a football club should not be pushing their political beliefs onto the fan base of that football club. Because owning a football club means you understand inclusivity. You understand that everybody has different opinions and ultimately they're here to support a football club. And whilst you might be popular with some people who agree with what you're on about, you're going to alienate and annoy the vast majority that don't.

12:17That is why you don't bring your politics into a football club. It's incredible. And it's a very serious thing. So look, if you're sat here this morning agreeing with him, absolutely fine. You publicise your political beliefs. You don't own the football club. That's absolutely fine. If you disagree with him and you're ringing up bloody talk sport or whatever, whatever. Again, that's your beliefs. Personally, he just shouldn't have done it. He shouldn't be doing that. He shouldn't be pushing those sort of things and politicising Manchester United. Shame on him. And remember, what Manchester United really is about is about football.

12:53What Manchester United is really all about is what we were remembering last week in relation to Munich. Somebody who uses this great football club to push their political beliefs is wrong, in my opinion. Whether you believe them or not, he shouldn't do it. because ultimately, even if you agree with what he's saying, there's a load of people that don't who are going to use that as a stick to beat him now and cause division, an issue. So he shouldn't do it. Simple as that. Keep politics out of football. Absolutely. Let me just read this because this sort of sums up a lot of people in the chat. So Jim Radcliffe said, nothing wrong, you mug.

13:30Right. I'll appease it again because people like you are low brain cells. I mean, I would love you to write 10 points about how you'd improve UK because it would just be amazing reading. I'm sure you're an absolute idiot. But let me just let me just break this down, because I know exactly the sort of person you are and you haven't listened. Maybe I agree with Sir Jim Radcliffe and what he said about immigration. Maybe I do. Maybe I think the death penalty should come back. Maybe I think we should take all the prisoners in the UK and put them on an island with their own supply of food and leave them there.

14:02Maybe I do think that. Or maybe I don't agree with what he said. Maybe I think we should let all the prisoners out with electronic tags and integrate them and rehabilitate them. And maybe I don't agree with the death penalty. Does it matter? Does it matter which way I go on that? As the owner of a football club, I shouldn't be telling you because I'm here to run a football club. I'm not saying I agree with him. I'm not saying I disagree with him. It would be ridiculous for me, for me as a presenter of United's biggest fan channel, to start getting political. It would be stupid. Some of you might agree with me.

14:40Some of you might hate me for it. I would never do it because they're personal to me and my job is to be talking about Manchester United. So for all you people who agree with Sir Jim and think I'm a lefty, you're a moron. I haven't said I agree or I disagree with it. I just don't think Manchester United Football Club should be politicised. That's what I'm saying. And I'm passionate about that because it causes division. It causes issues. Football's meant to be inclusive. They don't sit there as the owner of a football club and say, I don't think those people should be involved. I don't think they should be here.

15:12What if they're Man United fans? has anyone ever thought about that what if all these immigrants coming into Manchester United into into the UK Manchester United fans oh you don't matter this is what I mean his political beliefs might be absolutely fine but you can't do it as an owner of a football club and you can't use Manchester United as a political beast to push your beliefs it's disgusting Manchester United need to put a statement out if they don't I think he's in trouble I think he's in trouble anyway I mean the thing that annoyed me the most about last night was the fact that he thinks he's doing a good job at Manchester United.

15:45And I'm not going to go over that because that was last night's show. But it's the fact that he thinks he's doing a good job. Listen to the interview. If you agree with his political beliefs, that's absolutely fine. But listen to the interview and tell me what you think about that man. I think he is absolutely up his own arse. I think he is a billionaire who deserves to be a billionaire because he's an intelligent guy who has absolutely dominated his specific niche. But I think he's been a billionaire for so long that he actually thinks his shit don't smell. And I think he thinks he's more intelligent than everybody else.

16:18And I think he thinks he can sit there and say what he likes about anything. And he doesn't realise what the modern world is because he's removed himself from it for so many years on his yachts and on his bikes and, you know, and his billions. He's got absolutely no idea about the modern world at all and absolutely no idea how you have to operate in that modern world and what you do and don't say publicly and privately. And he's absolutely exposed himself. I couldn't give a shit about his political beliefs, whether I agree with him or not. I give a shit about him running Manchester United and he is not equipped to take this football club anywhere near where it needs to be based on the interviews that he has done over the last two years and what he believes is a good job at Manchester United.

16:59Look, if you want Ineos out, this is probably the best thing he's ever done. I don't really see a way back. So if you're Ineos out and Glazers out, I don't really see a way back. We've got a guy who is politicising Manchester United and pushing his own personal beliefs on this fan base. And we've got a 50 % ownership who are complete and utter mercenaries who have ripped the soul out of this football club, ladened it with debt and sit on the other side of the ocean buying more franchises in cricket to do the same there. The whole ownership is absolutely screwed. All we need now is a group of people with the right morals and principles and money to come in and say, we're the alternative.

17:44Everybody gets behind that and we force these idiots out. Hopefully that's in the making because we just need an alternative. That's what we need. Somebody just needs to come forward and say, I've got the money. We're going to fund the groups and the protests to get them out. Let's get these idiots out. Now's the time to shine. And I'll tell you what, it makes me laugh as well. It's the whole thing we had with Qatar and how we don't want Qatar because of their human rights and this, that and the other. And you look at where we are today and you think, yeah. I mean, look, putting the Manchester back into Manchester, which was Sir Jim Radcliffe's quote, means something completely different this morning, doesn't it?

18:21I mean, I never really understood what putting Manchester back into Manchester meant. Now, I think that takes on a very sinister term, doesn't it? And also, he probably needs to understand what the origins of Manchester are in relation to the amount of people who aren't originally from Manchester who came to live in Manchester. For example, the Irish. So there we go. John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I. I live life daily. That's why I only spend on Moto Casino. Moto's got daily free bonuses, daily tournaments, new slots added daily, and the best part, guaranteed daily jackpots.

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19:40And you're an absolute moron if you think there are. But this is what happens when you try and politicise Manchester United. I will sit here and if you want to talk politics with me, you'll get nothing back. You don't know my politics. You don't know what I believe in. And I will not impart them on you because we're here to talk about football. But I will call out people who do. And I'll call it the other way as well. I turned the news on this morning. And what a surprise. What a surprise. The pile on comes from the lefty do-gooders slagging Officer Jim, saying it's a disgrace. Deport him. Take his knighthood off him.

20:11That's as preposterous as well because they're politicising Man United now. And this is what you do. It's disgusting. I don't really give a shit which side of the fence you're on. The argument's wrong. We shouldn't be talking about this. We should be talking about Manchester United. To be fair, the Stonewall partnership with the FA forced politics onto the prem for years. The game has been a stage to push political views for ages, says Mark Callaghan. Thank you very much for your super chat. Welcome to the members club, Ryan. Thank you very much. Faz says, you have millions of reach. You managed to not push politics or personal agendas, yet a billionaire, sir, can be this much of an idiot.

20:46I mean, I'm stunned by it. I'm stunned by it. And look, I know good people at Man United and they will be very concerned about it because you're associated with it, aren't you? Since Sir Jim Radcliffe has joined, where has Man United improved, says Acorn. Exactly. We're going to talk about Tuchel in a minute. It's the fact that he wants to present his opinions as a co-owner of United. He can have his opinions, but I don't want to hear them. I don't want to see results and improvements on my team when we haven't seen them, says Mike. Exactly. Exactly. It's essentially like if you if you look, maybe you agree with what you're saying.

21:24Right. I ain't got a problem with that. No one's telling you you're wrong. Well, some people in the chat will tell you wrong. Personally, I don't care if you agree with him and I don't care about what he says. But you can't do that as an owner. Resign and pump your money into reform. and no one's going to say anything about you. You're basically Nigel Farage FC. No one's going to say anything. But as an owner of a football club, especially Manchester United, where people won't hold those opinions, I think it's bloody disgusting. And it doesn't mean you're wrong for having those opinions, by the way.

21:53It just means you shouldn't... Imagine if you're an immigrant, right? Of any background or whatever. No, you don't even need to be an immigrant. Imagine you're just somebody that doesn't agree with what he said and you support Man United and the owner of Man United saying that. You've got to be able to put yourself in those shoes, whether you're in those shoes or not. I can put myself in both pairs of shoes. I can understand the people who like what he said going, go on, Sir Jim. And I can understand the people who don't like what he said being appalled. That's why he shouldn't fucking say it, because it's divisive and you shouldn't do that as an owner of a football club.

22:25And also, the scary thing is the people who are backing him are suddenly now thinking he's done a good job at United. I saw some morons last night going, go on, he's absolutely spot on and he's doing a great job at United. And then you look through the timeline and they're going mad a month ago about Wilcox and this, that and the other, because the problem with politics is it's way more passionate than football in a way. And if you if you grab latch onto somebody's politics, they won't care about what you're doing in the football because they're like, this is more important. So I don't know whether he's a genius or an idiot.

22:57You know, Mark likes Starmer just calls people names because he doesn't agree. No actual substance is wrestling. I mean, I think to be honest with you, that's probably the most informative I've been in the entire 10 years I've been here. And I actually haven't said anything that should offend anybody because I haven't said anything that's not that's that's actually either side. what I'm saying is you shouldn't politicise Manchester United and if you are you're a moron so if that's making me Keir Starmer that's very worrying that your brain works like that because there's nothing in the last 15 minutes that picks aside at all it's just saying Manchester United Football Club needs to act so Jim Radcliffe needs to fuck off and you shouldn't politicise Manchester United it means much more than that to me what do politics do divide people what does this ownership like to do, I wonder, says Ryan.

23:48Exactly. A billionaire who's out of touch with reality. No way I'm shocked, says Hemi. But look, realistically, I don't do politics, so I'm not that arsed. At no point in the last 12 hours have I gone, oh my God, I can't believe he said that. In a political sense, I really insensitively don't give a shit. I don't do politics. I don't watch Newsnight. I don't care. I'm too busy with the thing I care about, which is football and family and friends. But what worries me the most is that these people, and this is why the 1958 statement is the bigger important statement, what worries me the most is that these people have control of the thing that is a massive part of my life on a day-to-day basis.

24:33So Manchester United is in the hands of the Glazers, who I know are completely incompetent, and Sir Jim Radcliffe, who I now know is a complete and utter moron as well in relation to his decision-making. I mean, the fact that he sits there and thinks that's a good idea and this is the guy that's going to recruit the next manager, this is the guy that's in charge of the transfer budget. I mean, that's the thing that worries me the most, is that he's just completely and utterly out of touch. And if he's out of touch on his own fan base, imagine how out of touch he's going to be in relation to making this football club great again and his decision-making.

25:07Toyin says put the Manchester back into Manchester is the same as Maga he told us who he is from the start Jim out says Toyin regardless if the fans agree or not at the end of the day Manchester United is a football club not a political party it's a disgrace what he said says Midri spot on Glazer's big 1.8 billion for a cricket team that would fix Old Trafford and pay off their debt on our club should Jim not be highlighting that over the crap he said says Neil. Well, look, we've got a Labour government in this country and we've got a mayor of Manchester and both of them are fundamentally involved in the regeneration project slash rebuildable Trafford.

25:42They've both come out slamming what Sir Jim Radcliffe said, but they're going to fund the regeneration project that's going to make Sir Jim Radcliffe and the Glazers very quick. Realistically, if those politicians are worth anything, they'll be pulling out of that, but they won't because money's involved. So don't listen to the Prime Minister or Andy Burnham, they're politicians and they're more spin than Man United. So they're absolute, I haven't got no time for what the Prime Minister said or Andy Burnham said, because they're actually, they're just posting that for virtue signaling. They're not going to pull the rug on this massive amount of money that's going to come into the government because they're working with the Glazers and Sir Jim.

26:22So I'm not interested in the politics, as I say. Manchester back into Manchester, says Kiel. Why should he go? Because he's got an opinion. That's the problem with this country no one can have opinion free speech is dead says et i think we've explained it mate and i think you've already um tried to call me um an idiot or whatever it was you were before if you can't understand the last 15 minutes then there's no help for people like you there's nothing wrong with what he said but as an owner of manchester united where a vast majority of that fan base won't agree with what he said and be against what he said he's an absolute moron for doing that interview.

26:58I mean, I don't know. I can't explain it any more than the first 10 minutes, pal. I don't know why you think everybody's against your politics. Nobody said anything about your politics. We're saying that the owner of Manchester United should not politicise Manchester United. It's meant to be about inclusivity. And he's sitting there pushing his politics onto this fan base because he owns the club. No one would give a shit about him if he was sat in Monaco as the owner of Ineos. Did he do it intentionally to split the fan base or is he just daft? Who knows, Isaac? Sir Jim Pratt-Cliff says Shinigan.

27:30This man does not run the club well enough to have his opinions taken seriously, says Brendan. He's gone up massively, in my opinion, says ET Wrestling. I mean, mate, you are clearly not a Man United fan. You are spending money. I've never heard of you before and I'm not going to read out your comments again. You've had three. This is not a political place. This is about Manchester United Football Club. need amram on the overlap exposing man united's board and owner just like ang exposing spores bird publicly i've got to watch that uh amald actually um nathan says politicizing the club is a crime sack him now california here glazes out too while rat it lousy american says nathan a uk man talking about colonizers lemmy stops as sulai such a hypocritical hypocritical statement as well when he's enabling another country's owner in my opinion says tom kent we're going to have to have carrick being asked more about haircuts and immigration policy than he is about the thing he's actually employed to do and that's deal with football exactly exactly no manager can be successful here says patrick did you see that gary neville said on sticks to football that tottenham need to challenge their owners to be successful idiot says luke granger well the interesting thing about tottenham and i've not watched the ang thing yet and we're going to talk about tukul next is that and i got this message from tr so it's actually not mine but It's a good point I wanted to bring into the show.

28:43United, right? So Jim Radcliffe, the Glazers. They're obsessed with a new stadium and how it's going to make us great. Look at Tottenham. Amazing stadium. NFL games every year. Beyonce. They're in a relegation battle. They're in the bottom half of the table last year. This new stadium bollocks needs calling out as well. Because there's so many people in our fan base that think when we've got a new stadium, were going to be sorted. Tottenham have got a new stadium. They're shit. A new stadium doesn't make you Real Madrid. And that seems to be the big play. We're not buying anybody in January. You know, we're going to keep it cheap.

29:23This new stadium is not going to be the magic bullet they think it is. Imagine a Liverpool owner saying anything like that. They'd be chased out of the club in no time, says Dan. I mean, yeah, we're not Liverpool. I don't know why we're not Liverpool. Obviously, they're our biggest rival and we don't want to be Liverpool, but they wouldn't put up with the Glazers. They wouldn't put up with this. They have a way of how that football club should be. And to be fair, we've lost that at Manchester United and I don't know why. Let's not use politics to feed agendas, people, says Robert McCormack. Truth hurts, says Stuart.

29:55Mark, Sir Jim and Ineos need to go because it's Glazers round two, but Sir Jim is talking facts. UK is finished, says Bully. I love my UKLA. Yeah, but you shouldn't be... Look, mate, OK. All these people, I don't mind, but you're really just saying, your pro-immigration policy, whatever. That's fine. I don't care. We're not actually talking about that. We're talking about an owner of a football club using Manchester United to push political beliefs. What if tomorrow he says something you don't agree with? This is the thing I was trying to say. Just because you agree with him on that, are you going to forgive everything he's done at Manchester United and think that he's right to push those beliefs on people that don't believe them?

30:34What if tomorrow on the show he said something you don't agree with? You're all going to be here going, oh, we shouldn't be saying that. What about that bloody footballer who played for, what was his name? John McLean. No, he was the one from Diode. James McLean, who wouldn't wear a poppy, was from Ireland and pushed his beliefs. And people were like, you shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't be doing that. Because they didn't like that one. And this is why in football you shouldn't do it. Because some of you this morning are like, oh, I love Sir Jim. He said something I agree with. But what about tomorrow when he says something you don't agree with?

31:09You'll all be going, he shouldn't have said that. And that's why you shouldn't do it. It's so bloody obvious. I love my club and every day the owners embarrass us more and more. He's gone too far. I want Glynios gone. I want Glazers gone. We need to be sold now, later, now, says Make. Have a great day, everyone, says Ian O 'Connell. And what's even worse, says Red Devil Studio, is that this shows he can speak out. He said nothing about the recent sackings, lack of transfers or vision for the football club. This is just a vanity project for him. And I think this is a great point from Red Devil Studio.

31:37Because he said, so Jim comments don't make any sense from a football or business perspective. Has he forgotten United are one of the biggest clubs in the world? We don't need this bad press right now. It is incredible what he has done because this is a guy, like Red Devil Studio says, who is running one of the biggest football franchises in the world with a huge worldwide fan base. And from a business point of view, which is clearly the motivation here, because that's what the Glazers are about. why would you split, divide, isolate your fan base? Because it's going to cost you money. It is. And second of all, why will he sit and do an interview about something he's passionate about, politics, but he never does an interview about transfers or the mistakes they've made at Manchester United?

32:23Is this not just another insight into the guy and why he's really at Man United? He's at Man United for money. It is a vanity project. It's about doubling his money. because he's clearly a very passionate guy. You know, he's a Brexiteer. He voted Brexit. He doesn't pay tax. He's in Monaco. He clearly doesn't like immigration. I haven't got a problem with any of those things, by the way. They're his beliefs. That's absolutely fine. He's clearly very, very passionate. If you watch that interview, he's clearly very passionate about what he believes in. But Manchester United, he won't sit and say a fucking word.

32:55He won't do interviews. So as he just exposed himself, like Red Devil Studios says, as a money man who's got absolutely no fucking interest in football at all. He's just here to make a bit of money. I've always felt that Sir Jim Radcliffe was brought in by the Glazers as the UK knight with the access into the British government to get the regeneration project that they'd been working on for years before he came in. That's a very cynical approach, but the Glazers were looking at that regeneration project in 2017. Sir Jim didn't get into the club until 2024. so there was no way that the British government were going to fund American glazers of a regeneration project but you bring Sir Jim Radcliffe in who's a knight of the realm with you know mates with Sebastian Coe and everybody else and suddenly it's happening I've always thought that and you know he's Chelsea season ticket he's a lifelong fan but he seems to do fuck all in relation to what a lifelong fan would do I've always suspected that he's a he's just a he's just a businessman man looking to double his money and a front for the glazers and maybe he has shown in the last 24 hours again that his real passion isn't actually man united you won't get him sitting down talking about man united but you will get him sitting down talking about politics so maybe that's what it's all about um he said nothing after he sacked amrim yet he's happy to push his own political views on everyone all glenios care about is the regeneration projects as big smoke uh thanks for calling this out it's important says rob i think it's important for everybody as i say like maybe I agree with what he said on his politics.

34:26Maybe I completely don't agree with what he said. Maybe I sit on the fence. Maybe I sit in the middle on my politics. It doesn't matter. I wouldn't push them on you. It's not right for me to do that. That's my point. You should never politicise a football club. And he's done that. And that, you know, whether deliberately or by association, that's just wrong. Because tomorrow he might say something you don't agree with, and then you're going to lose your shit. It's already starting. Look at all the hate super chats and chats, the division is real and it's only going to get worse as Maz Rawawi. Well, look, if people, the problem is this community, I think is amazing that we can have these types of conversations and the Mason Greenwood conversation and the Rashford on the piss conversation and all the conversations we've had.

35:11I think others will steer clear of it because of some of the comments that we're getting. But there's nothing that I've said or anyone else has said that's really that bad. It's just when you open the door to politics, people get very passionate. I'm not opening the door. I don't care whether you swing one way or the other. I don't care whether you agree or you don't. That's the point. This is meant to be a football club and he's dragged it into the mud for his own selfish cause. He's created a story against our great football club for his own selfish cause. Naivety or planned. Realistically, he clearly is very passionate about that thing.

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36:24Find out your welcome offer after you apply, which could be as high as 175 ,000 points. Learn more and find out your offer at americanexpress.com slash explorer dash platinum. Terms apply. What is awful is he was talking with his Ineos head on. He didn't give one toss about how this would affect Man United. This was all about Ineos, says Jimmy Blake. Beyond the sentiment, he got the numbers absolutely wrong as well. Hardly reassuring that he's spewing fake figures and he's overseeing the club, says WGF. I mean, I've not looked into that because I don't really care, but apparently the millions of immigrants and everything like that, he was quoting, he was absolutely miles off as well.

37:00So again, it just shows you the judgment of the man that he'll sit there and spout bollocks. How can he say that and face the players, half of whom come from a board? I know most of them are probably not political, but still, says Big Z. As I say, I'm not here to fly any flag for the opposition. I would say he's definitely not when he talks about immigration, talking about Lissandro Martinez or Lenny Oro, who are Manchester United players with the right documentation, earning massive money and paying massive tax. He's talking about what he perceives is mass immigration into this country for people who give nothing and take benefits.

37:39So, you know, let's not spin his beliefs. He's not saying that he doesn't want Lissandro Martinez in England. But this is what I mean. You could agree with it or disagree with it. It shouldn't be being said by a football owner. People need to realise they have more in common with an immigrant than Sir Jim, says Bradley. And Dan says his figures are totally wrong, whether you agree or not. His facts have been debunked, which is utterly embarrassing and just shows he acts before having full grasp of the facts. Man United should be top priority says Amit this could impact Trans versus Kiel Ineos are estimated to be 18 billion in debt Jim is aligning himself politically for his own personal gain business will always come before the club says Joe good job Jim you've just lowered the stocks genius says Ruben Ryan welcome to the members of the club look ultimately let's move it on because I want to talk about Thomas Tuchel but ultimately if you're Ineos out and you're Glazers out what he said yesterday is probably really good news because it's going to damage the football club.

38:45The media in this country are probably more left-wing than right-wing, so they're going to go for him now. And when you lose the media, you're in trouble. He's got politicians talking out against him. Let's bring it back to football. From an Ineos out point of view, he's just done amazing work for those of us who want change, regime change. The interesting thing will be how it goes on from here. Right, let's talk about Thomas Tuchel because this should have been the lead story this morning. Look, Beth's quite happy about this. We were in the WhatsApp group this morning. I'm not particularly happy about it.

39:25I think it's quite worrying in early February. Thomas Tuchel will sign a contract extension with England, which will rule him out of the Man United job and keep him as England manager until Euro 2020. The FA is expected to make an announcement later today. So Thomas Tuchel off the table for Manchester United. And look, maybe it goes back to what we're talking about, the incompetence of the board. But I think that this is bad news. I'm not convinced about Thomas Tuchel, if I'm being completely honest, but Thomas Tuchel over Michael Carrick every single day of the week. And the fact that he's now off the table, really, I don't think Luis Enrique takes the job.

40:15I don't think that.

40:20Yeah, I don't think Thomas. I don't think Enrique takes the job. I don't think Ancelotti takes the job and if Tuchel's not taking the job who's taking the job and I think I said to you as Gaz says I think this means Carrick is getting the job I said to you was it last week or the week before I'm 90 % sure they're going to give it to Michael Carrick he's British for a start and Sir Jim Radcliffe will love that stop with it we need to move on he's got a British passport is British. Yeah, yeah, no, we're not going to go down that road. But no, I think he will go for Michael Carrick because Michael Carrick is a yes man and he is cheap.

41:03And when I say a yes man, Glasner would be a yes man. Any manager that's grateful to get this opportunity is a yes man. And Carrick will be very, very grateful for this opportunity as he already is. So I think they're going to go for Michael Carrick because he's cheap. He's already got a coaching staff, which are cheap. Everything's there with Carrick. You give the job to Tuchel, you've got to pay for Tuchel, you've got to pay for his coaching staff. There's a huge amount of coaches at Man United as well, and we've never changed them. The fitness department is the same fitness department that David Moyes had.

41:38There's people there from Moyes. There's loads of coaches at Man United that have been here through Solskjaer, Mourinho. So you bring in someone like Thomas Tuchel and he might go, I want to, I don't, these people have been here for too long. Like failure. No, failure, failure. You need to change this, this, this. You could, you bring a new manager in who knows what he's on about. He could be talking 50 staff, 50 staff. I don't think people understand. And look, it'd be a great article for the Athletic or the Telegraph. Somebody should try and get a list of everybody Man United employ at Carrington in relation to fitness and coaching, and then put what year they came to the club because there's a doesn't get spoken about there's a huge amount of people at that football club who've been here who coach our players who speak to our players who've been here through multiple managers and if i run a business and my team leader i keep sacking them but my core staff are the same that's still going to impact my performance isn't it so i think that michael carrick knows all these people he works with them through ollie he's got his own coaching staff already.

42:48He's cheap. Gets Champions League football, he gets the job. And we will get Champions League football. So I think they're going to give it to Michael Carrick. I don't think there's anywhere else to go. In February, I think we already know it. So that worries me. I'm scared about that. I'm scared about the judgment of Wilcox and Sir Jim and Barada. I'm scared about Carrick being another Oli. I'm scared about giving the job to an interim because it's never really worked in football apart from probably Zidane at Real Madrid. But I firmly believe they're going to do it. I don't think it's the right thing to do, but I think they're going to do it.

43:22And Thomas Tuchel, if I'm being honest, was probably the only person I thought that would take the job

43:30who was a high-level coach. I can't see where else we're going to go other than Tuchel. Ancelotti just won't do it. I just don't think he'll go anywhere near it. and what we also have to remember as well is and in light of what we spent the first few minutes of the show talking about if you were a manager would you look at man united and go that looks like a good place to go i've got an absolute prats running in place and then i've got a couple of more prats on the board and i've got days i've got jason wilcox as director of football i mean you're just not going to look at man united and go that's the place to be so that's a factor as well if If you're Thomas Tuchel, do you want to stay managing England for another two years where easy job, good money, as long as you get England to the semifinals, which you probably will, you're laughing.

44:23Why would you leave that to take the Man United job where you might last three months and work for a bunch of idiots and have a load of stress? I mean, Ancelotti's not going to do that at his age. Luis Enrique, look, Qatar owned PSG as well. Do you think Qatar are going to do an easy deal with us? he's got a year left on his contract so that's not going to happen either so no no Enrique no Ancelotti no Tuchel where do you go where do you go I don't I don't think there's any I mean I'd like Unai Emery that's the last one I mean I do like Conte but Unai Emery is probably the only guy I would I would I would think he's perfect.

45:05But even he, I don't think, would look at Man United and go, I fancy that. Nagelsmann, I like Nagelsmann. However, that's a bit of a... Nagelsmann is a little bit of an Amrim and a Ten Hag. He's got a little bit more experience, but he didn't do particularly well at Bayern. And international management. So, I think with Tuchel signing that contract, I think that's it. I think that's it, in my opinion. What about Sir Jim hiring Southgate? Well, this is why I'd rather have Carrick. Manish should be replaced with yes man for this club, says Amit. Is too cool snubbing United really that bad? I'm over this thing of getting Chelsea rejects, says Jared.

45:51Need to go all out for Enrique now. Need the best in class, says Luke. And I mean, look, I would love it to be Enrique. He would be my number one choice for a multitude of reasons. style of play he's managed two big clubs he's got a good aura about him i like listening to him he's very good at fusion as you have to be at barcelona at psg of developing young players and bringing in top players he's perfect for what man united need um i just can't see i think he's too intelligent to come anywhere near man united that's the problem uh caleb says he spoke about the population going from 50 okay it's so clear we can't phone a person he never made a distinction okay caleb i don't really want to talk about your immigration policy um with all due respect because that's not what's been spoken about what about the corporate benefits for the stadiums john walker what are you talking about always thought the united boardroom was like an episode of yes minister always trying to spin while getting nothing done says glenn c well look Just going back to that very, very briefly, what I do agree with is that there's been multiple statements from multiple people, from fan groups to politicians.

47:04the fact that Man United Football Club, who plays the diversity and inclusion card on a regular, regular to sell shirts and merchandise and tickets, and all the different strands of diversity and beliefs they constantly post about. And here we are waiting for Manchester United Football Club to respond to something that was very divisive and they haven't done anything yet. so they're very quick when it's playing for likes and social media interaction aren't they but i'm i'm just waiting to see when they're going to put something out about their owner saying something that's very divisive whether you agree with it or not and um it's very surprising that we're nearly at 11 a.m and they still haven't done anything no space in football for this is sean fans owners players and staff should be all in unison with the success of our club regardless of our politics mate on that's football i constantly get asked Rangers or Celtic.

48:02Now, I lived in Ireland for three and a half years. And I know that Rangers, when people ask you Rangers or Celtic, it's not about whether you preferred Gazza or John Collins back in the 90s. Rangers Celtic has political and religious connotations. I will never answer that question. To be honest with you, I don't really have an answer. I'd rather Hearts win it and I loved it when Aberdeen won it. But look, that's football. That's two football clubs. And that's knowledge that, you know, if you go through, if you're, unless you're wearing one of those club shirts, if you say one or the other, you will massively alienate the other fan base.

48:44I don't believe in it. I don't believe that. Look, I think there are certain causes like, you know, I remember when there was 9-11 and stuff like that. Obviously, you know, there's certain things that happen where it goes beyond football. But I don't believe in somebody who's very passionate about... I love the fact that people are passionate about things as long as it's legal. And if you're passionate about your politics, respect. I have friends who really do agree with Sir Jim Radcliffe. And I have friends who really don't agree with Sir Jim Radcliffe. And I would never go down the pub and say, the pints are on me.

49:21Let's talk about immigration. because I'm just going to cause a massive problem with people I like. I'd rather sit down and go, let's talk about who's getting relegated. And there's a time and place for those things. And Manchester United Football Club, their owner, should not be doing that, in my opinion. I think Radcliffe has done it on purpose to gain sympathy, as a lot will agree. Maybe he sees it as a way out of United because he messed up so much with United. He'll be going for PM next. Get him out, says Laura, MUFC. Dr G says Jim is a billionaire Monaco resident not paying tax in the UK is a complete disgrace and should be sacked and Jid says United aren't a football club that do a bit of business they're a business who play a bit of football WG says a significant number of the individuals who established Newton Heath were Irish immigrants who had relocated to Manchester Wikipedia are the Glazers not immigrants as well so speedy short and Radcliffe residents in Monaco to avoid paying tax while hard-working immigrants contribute more to the economy in the uk so jim radcliffe is an absolute moron says big z uh and mr tomba says so manchester united i hear you're racist now father ted um okay well look um i'm about done there i have got a video i'm gonna knock out um i don't know when i'm gonna put it up maybe um we'll see i i get the feeling there might be some stuff to react to today let's just wait and see but i have got something i wanted to bring it into the news show and I run out of time.

50:48But look, in relation to Belaber, I think that leads to Carrick getting the full-time job. I just can't see where we're going to get this best-in-class manager from. And to be honest with you, I don't think De Zerbi, Iriola, Glasner are actually... Yeah, I don't think they're actually the right people to go for. I know this is not inspiring or exciting, but I would go for Marco Silva at Fulham because he's miles better. I like Marco silver at fulham midry i like the way they play i do um daniel says completely agree with what you said today mark and sorry i hate asking but did a super chat at the start just wondering if you saw it sorry again mate i thought i read it out mate definitely remember reading your super chat at the start i'll go back um dan harding comedy says imagine a liverpool owner saying anything like that they'd be chased out of club in no time um i can't seem to see it mate i thought i'd read it out at the start

51:54devil studio you know connell rom mccormack suli arnold et wrestling had a few didn't he um neil hogan mid three

52:12okay I'll see if I can find that one no chance our fan base would support Enrique he sold Mbappe and Donnarumma for his tactics the second he comes in he sells most of the players in United says Nevin but we need that open heart surgery would we even give Enrique the cash says Kyle no look I think ultimately in relation to the manager call out the bullshit they're not recruiting best in class best in class would be Enrique best in class would be Tuchel best in class would be Ancelotti. Call out the bullshit. We're not recruiting best in class. We're recruiting what we can get. They throw the term best in class out and it means nothing.

52:46Best in class means getting the best no matter what. Best in class doesn't mean, well, we can't get the best, so we'll get the best we can get. That's, you know, we're not Gillette. Completely agree with what you said. Thank you, Daniel. I know this is not inspired on that from Midri. Rangers or Celtics are CF26. Football is political forcing pride on us though, says Lou. Boycott until Jim's gone. It's not nice to hear, says Abbey. Sir Jim Radcliffe probably still goes on about the war. Do you really see him going for the German after his comments? It's going to be Southgate after Carrick, says Big Z.

53:16What do you think of Casemiro not being given the tolerance, says PS4. Don't know what that is. Will be funny if Sir Jim ends up hiring Southgate, says Ro. Manager should be replaced with Yes Man for this club. Thank you very much. Okay, look, fantastic show this morning. I think most of you did get it. Obviously, you're going to get infiltrated by some people who don't listen. That's the world. Never thought Man United would be swooped to this low. What have we done to the club? Everything comes out of this club but good football, says Yechi. And Hemi says, to play devil's advocate in a way, if Sir Jim bought Sir Alex Level's success to the club on and off the pitch, who of us would care this much about what he said?

53:53Would we want him gone? Yes. Because what you're basically saying, Hemi, is football fans are shallow. I don't think we live in a world now where people would put up with an owner who spouts things they don't believe in just because they're winning because that's a dictatorship. And I don't think many people subscribe to dictatorships in the modern day. Anyway, thanks everyone for watching. Take care. I think we've got Ben Jacobs today at two, so we should get a little bit more about manager, etc. I'll speak to you in a bit. Take care.

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